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onyx shore
brisk roost
Boston is like my second favorite team tbh
indigo barn
Fuel goes toe to toe with Seoul but gets rekt by some mcdonalds boyz
paper crag
honestly fuel is somehow stronger against stronger teams
molten skiff
fissure doing stream right now
indigo barn
It’s the rise of Florida mayhem
brisk roost
I wouldn't be surprised if they lose to SHD
indigo barn
Rise of the la gladiators
All underdogs shall rise
Except shanghai because shanghai
brisk roost
But not Fall of Houston
indigo barn
I hope not
brisk roost
Cause that was really close
I would cry on my bed if they actually lost to Mayhem XD!
molten skiff
damn
indigo barn
They should have it relatively easy until Seoul at the end of the stage
molten skiff
fissure actually talks in english when answering english questions
molten skiff
that means fissure is assimilated in the team now
indigo barn
Like gladiators always had a pretty good lineup
slim summit
the glads have been playing sooo damn clean
indigo barn
Fissre pretty much locks it in
torpid charm
I am so proud of the Gladiators and Mayhem today
torpid charm
they fucking stepped it up
indigo barn
Fissure won’t get benched all season bud
torpid charm
Fissure is amazing
indigo barn
Remix is done
hidden osprey
I know he won't
brisk roost
Yo I was watching xQc just now.
torpid charm
Glad has two great tanks
brisk roost
He still has his Christmas Tree there lmfao
hidden osprey
but he was traded for a reason
torpid charm
ew
hidden osprey
paper crag
@brisk roost lol i was expecting you to bring some juicy gossip, not the status of xQc's Christmas tree lol
torpid charm
nah they're serious
indigo barn
Gg dallas
brisk roost
@paper crag C'mon I had to point that out lmao
Also that's a funny way of misspelling Erin you know 👀
😂
indigo barn
Erin is actually a 5
paper crag
interesting accent for saying Soe, but okay
indigo barn
Soe is still smokin
onyx shore
too lazy to remove it probably
torpid charm
#BringMalikBack
onyx shore
hire erin
brisk roost
I'd rather have Erin at this point tbh
onyx shore
fire malik
torpid charm
hell no
brisk roost
Hell yes
onyx shore
this isnt about the scandal
indigo barn
Malik needs to make his own jimmey kinmel show
onyx shore
id rather have innocent newbie
brisk roost
Yeah
torpid charm
whaaaat
onyx shore
then FGC cringey tryharders
brisk roost
Malik should commentate in WWE tbh
paper crag
idk i feel like malik doesn't hype me up very much
onyx shore
agreed
brisk roost
I wanna see Corey Graves diss him
paper crag
neither does erin
indigo barn
Malik doesn’t know the difference between overwatch and paladins
paper crag
i want LCS's MC Jun level hype
brisk roost
And yeah Malik is lame asf
indigo barn
Malik only cares about his wins in fortnite
brisk roost
Malik plays Fortnite?
onyx shore
hidden osprey
Kinda crazy to see Houston as low Fuel
indigo barn
Like give us a reason to watch owl
brisk roost
Indeed
brisk roost
I want Maid of Might to go to OWL once
brisk roost
People are gonna go nuts if they see her XD!
indigo barn
I’m gonna nut if I see her
onyx shore
dallas choked hard
indigo barn
If Florida 4-0s every game from here on out owl will get millions of views
People want upsets
Stage 1 established who generally are the top dogs
paper crag
nah Florida still needs a couple 2-3 against other teams
whole mulch
Let shanghai beat NYXL
paper crag
like vs Gladiators and one of London/NYXL/Seoul
and then they can start 4-0'ing people
more hype that way
paper crag
i feel like Florida can go to a very close 1-3 against Val on Val's bad day lol
Val coming out on top but like barely
brisk roost
Val is inconsistent asf right now
tall sierra
Hey guys just got back... wow FL beat Dallas eh...
brisk roost
Yep XD!
tall sierra
The contrast in progression seems the most vivid with Florida... good stuff
clear mirage
when you get banned from ow dallas fuel discord for saying they play bad
you know theyre at a state they have a problem
tall sierra
That's petty and political, which is petty lol... "ain't nobody got time for that."
clear mirage
directly ban xD
tall sierra
Wow... well it's much better here I'm sure..
I've been in a few OW servers and most of them are no better than the troll fest on the twitch chat boxes lol
tall sierra
I'll have to catch up on the VOD's here in a bit..
clear mirage
but now im looking too real teams
whole mulch
Shanghai all the way 
tall sierra
Yea the fans seems pretty partial..it's either they are rooting due to the city or due to the players...which is like me where I know these players as APEX peeps from South Korea and not necessarily the city.
ie...Seoul, NYXL and London so happens to have these players...
clear mirage
How do you want people keep supporting a Team when they are a disappointment all the time
rough night
i can cope with a team i follow losing... if they show improvement ..... but Fuel are... just a shitshow
shy wind
Fuel has so many problems
I don't think you can just pinpoint one and fix it and they're suddenly good
like most teams can
rough night
how long can Kyky avoid taking responsibility though ?
clear mirage
Kyky need to get out
rough night
that bastion strat was................ shocking
frozen yew
whole mulch
Wew
I'm so happy mayhem won
but what makes me more happy is fissure getting revenge on his old team for trading him away
alpine berry
big oof
shy wind
can someone repost that flordia mayhem vid, my disc deleted it
paper crag
i think everyone secretly roots for the Dragons to win a game one day
even if they're unaware of it
shy wind
so no one..? It was recently posted here.
whole mulch
shy wind
Thanks :3
whole mulch
np
tall sierra
To be fair, SHD has way more problems than Fuel...sadly
balmy wolf
https://youtu.be/w9GHYLd2o54 esport ready?
feral wing
viral bronze
why is trihard emoji bad
tawny sigil
its not, people are just being SJW
welcome to america in 2018, where simply pointing, asking, hinting someone's ethnicity is racist.
unless they're white
vast geode
I just find it annoying
finite cedar
@[NA/PC] C A L L M E D I N K Y#4539 an explanation about the origin and different use of it: https://youtu.be/TCYydU8kzJY
xQc used it to salute people though.
tawny sigil
its on same level as klappa
scarlet spear
yikes
tawny sigil
also about the mayhem, The prophecy says "WHO EVER LOSE TO A REVERSE SWEEP WILL WIN A REVERSE SWEEP" houston lost a reverse sweep, then won a reverse sweep on mayhem then mayhem wins a reverse sweep
You know when you're surfing through the VOD and you see this
https://i.imgur.com/wPiSxTA.png
makes you go back a little bit and try to understand
sullen berry
Dive comp segment was excellent
Could not have been explained by someone so used to being faced with and competed in a lot of dive
dusky tinsel
Just woke up, holy shit how did Dallas lose to Florida?
scarlet spear
they choked after going 2-0
tawny sigil
fuel ran out of gas
tall sierra
^ "Literally."
tawny sigil
was a sick day though
tall sierra
It sure was... more craziness to come...
elfin flax
Spitfire is shit
pearl stratus
Dallas apparently didn't trihard enough.
So they're back to being one of the worst teams in the league again.
They're literally the moneyball plot. A group of expensive talented people who can't play together for shit.
Getting beat by a cheap team put together with some cohesion.
magic zinc
Really odd the cohesion isnt there when the core of players is still the same
digital cave
Dallas was pretty good before when they used to be EnVy
though I think they're rumors that the team has been going through some internal conflict or something
drowsy fulcrum
ya think
tawny sigil
rumors?
strong parrotBOT
Overwatch League - Season 1 - Stage 2
uncut turtle
w
strong parrotBOT
Overwatch League - Season 1 - Stage 2
magic zinc
Kinda rip for Orgless and Hungry, Kruise just kinda left and they didnt have time to scrim without him
molten skiff
YEAHHHHHHHHH
indigo barn
No team feeds as hard as Dallas food
molten skiff
my boy in my city
but the team is still owned by patriots owner sigh
or at least in contract
deft valley
what team
oh huh
I don't think they're owned by Kraft, just partnering with Uprising
deft valley
damn right
whole mulch
The Kraft group owns uprising
deft valley
we're tlaking about Toronto Esports
they're partnered with uprising but aren't owned by them, unlike the academy teams
molten skiff
yeah
molten skiff
i wish toronto esports would join as a full on league team
whole mulch
Kraft doesn't own them
molten skiff
still in league with the devil as i see it
whole mulch
"February 2nd - Toronto Esports announces that they have sold their roster to OWL Academy teams, and that they do not have time to immediately pickup a new roster for Contenders 2018 Season 1.[12]"
"On February 19th, 2018, Toronto Esports announced their partnership with the Boston Uprising from the Overwatch League to form a team for Overwatch Contenders.[1] On March 3rd, 2018, Toronto Esports revealed their roster for Overwatch Contenders 2018."
Just a partnership
the team is owned entirely by canadians
deft valley
There’s no “just” when it comes to boston sports
sturdy cairn
hello
idle beacon
@whole mulch the owner of the patriots owns phili
no wait
that is the krafts dude
oops
scarlet spear
toronto eSports partnered with boston as their academy team
molten skiff
Comcast owns phillie
idle beacon
who's playin atm?
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echo zinc
What’s this new overwatch contenders thing?
scarlet spear
contenders isnt exactly new, it just started with season 2 now
echo zinc
Oh
scarlet spear
it used to be the western Overwatch tourney before OWL
echo zinc
So it’s a tournament not league?
scarlet spear
its a league
all the academy teams for the OWL teams are in there and some other orgs and orgless teams
echo zinc
Ah
Wow 6 teams per region
Could barely keep up with owl, no way I can keep up with this lol
limber pine
12
deft valley
Does "orgless" just mean no one's bankrolling them?
vestal mortar
yep
dusk garden
how did the match between fuel and dallas go? didnt see that one
magic zinc
Fuel vs Dallas
tawny sigil
I dont know but Aran was pretty excited
magic zinc
Yeah that sums it up
rare sonnet
@echo zinc nobody really pays attention outside of their region unless they’re really into it
Fuel vs Dallas is a never ending battle
scarlet spear
is contenders played on live?
echo zinc
Oh, that’s how Dallas fuel came to be lol
magic zinc
I think so, I read something about Australian finals being on LAN so I assume the rest is on Live
plain creek
do contenders players play at home?
scarlet spear
at least from where they are stationed
some contenders teams have a team home
like XL2
some teams probably just have their players still at home
limber pine
This guy Spirit is pretty good
scarlet spear
wasnt he in some tier1-2 teams back at the start of OW?
limber pine
he was on Rise Nation for a while
tight vault
bronze league
marsh pumice
contenders did it started long ago?
marsh pumice
oh missed EU then so it's the 1st NA game, cool ty
thorn forum
are they running most recent patch?
thorn forum
cant wait for OWL to play it. wonder what sombra play is gonnna happen
magic zinc
I wonder if Brigitte will be in Stage 3 but it seems unlikely
scarlet spear
naaah doubt it, stage 4 is what i'd guess
deft valley
the mercy changes were during week 5 of stage 1 and they made it in by S2
so if orisa is on live by march 20 which is s2w5 it could be on in 3
thorn forum
i like that middle caster
scarlet spear
ZP is the best
vestal mortar
👏 ZP 👏
paper crag
i wish blizz lined up balance patches with new owl stages so we're watching games on the same patch as the one we play
scarlet spear
eh seems better to me the way they have it right now
the teams get to practice more with live servers
paper crag
really? it was weird for me to see mercy double insta res in stage 1
when my games had mercies doing slow single res
vestal mortar
I prefer it the way it is now too.
paper crag
i'm not saying that new balance patches should be immediately applied to OWL when the patches come out though
why can't they just release the new patches when a new stage begins
so between a new balance patch and beginning of a new stage, are pros practicing on the live client?
and then scrimming on a separate client against other pros?
sweet hamlet
yes
they stream and mainly play on that
i think
but they scrim on the seperate client
paper crag
i just feel like there must be an elegant way to streamline things
while being able to provide good enough practice time
scarlet spear
it gives them the opportunity to properly propare for the next stage tho
paper crag
yeah i understand that
scarlet spear
lets say the meta stays stale like it was with mercy for 6 months
then you got something new coming up
and you align both live with stage 2 for example
that gives them 2 weeks of practice
on a new patch
sweet hamlet
are the sombra changes on their client
paper crag
do you feel like the quality of the matches will be THAT significant though?
scarlet spear
on the OWL not
paper crag
the impact on the quality, i meant
sweet hamlet
oh boi
scarlet spear
no clue if it will, but i can see a point being made here for it
scarlet spear
lets hope so
paper crag
not that GM and rankers are all same level as pros, but i feel like they adapt pretty quickly on their streams
idk i'm mostly speaking as an OWL viewer, not an OW player or some kind of esport expert
vestal mortar
A lot of pros want more time between stages because they don't feel like they have enough time to adapt.
paper crag
it's just that sometimes it feels odd to see big differences between my client and owl clients
thorn forum
i could see what you are saying there, but giving them time to practice gives time for more in depth strats
which i find more entertaining and can learn things
paper crag
see my question there though, is that do you feel like there actually is a significant difference in the depth of strats
thorn forum
i think there is
paper crag
sure, mercy isn't being used as much
but i feel like the general comp is still similar more or less throughout the weeks
thorn forum
im just upset we arent seeing blizzardworld
paper crag
aggressive teams are usually staying aggressive, defensive teams are usually staying defensive, etc
i'm guessing blizz world will be in stage 3?
scarlet spear
nope
paper crag
we just know the next stage's map pool, ever stage?
scarlet spear
we dont know stage 3 mappool either afaik
paper crag
oh
scarlet spear
they announced the next stages map pool like a week before the last stage ended i think?
so we'll probably know within this month
vestal mortar
yep
paper crag
btw, whose arena is the current arena?
is it going to be any specific team's home arena, or is it just a placeholder thing
that will have no home team once other teams are set up?
vestal mortar
We have no idea yet.
paper crag
is every team eventually going to have a home arena though? it seems like a lot of teams are still undecided about their arena plans
vestal mortar
That is what was announced as part of the plan for future seasons but no details have been released about how that will work.
magic zinc
I think thats the goal yeah
paper crag
there's a korean source that's not THAT reliable saying LAV has plans to open an arena by 2020, sponsored by microsoft
but that's all i can find
magic zinc
Spitfire for example has reportedly been in talks with Tottenham Hotspurs (Coys!!) to use their e-sports arena in their new stadium
plain creek
thats super interesting
paper crag
what do you mean use their arena? there's already an esports arena in existence?
or is it the soccer stadium
slim summit
The bit goals make me think we might be getting a bit ahead of ourselves here
magic zinc
They're building a new stadium which has a small e-sports arena in it as there is a FIFA competition as well
plain creek
the bit goals were badly done
paper crag
interesting... is tottenham just building one for PR or does their organization have an esports team under them?
magic zinc
Most BPL teams have a fifa player contracted as silly as that sounds, its mostly for them
paper crag
huh
scarlet spear
thanks LNL, time to watch XL2 
paper crag
i don't entirely understand the appeal of professional sports game scene, but to each their own i guess
magic zinc
But you're in this channel
vestal mortar
Let's go Mangachuuu and Cloneman! 👏
magic zinc
Naah kidding friend, you do you. Something for everyone yada yada
paper crag
lol
but you don't have another real world sport where people shoot at each other and a giant intelligent gorilla zaps you with tesla coil
scarlet spear
Toronto eSports vs XL2, this gun be good
paper crag
you do have a real life spectator sport already there for soccer
scarlet spear
sounds like a fun thing to watch tbh
paper crag
what's the toronto esports vs XL2 thing about?
paper crag
oh those are team names okay
scarlet spear
yeah
XL2 is NYXL academy team
toronto eSports is the academy team for Boston Uprising
paper crag
is flower in it?
magic zinc
Did you guys hear why Kruise went to Toronto? Pretty solid reasoning on his side but an odd situation in general
scarlet spear
money ?
dudes been scuffed for some time now i would udnerstand him going to a stable team with solid backing
magic zinc
Honestly yeah sounds fair enough
scarlet spear
and only spitfire in EU thats probably going to dominate
magic zinc
He said if you have an off-day in EU contenders you might be out already whereas if they see you scrim daily an ff-day wont impact too much
vestal mortar
Torb warning alert for Mangachu
paper crag
when and where can i watch this contenders match?
limber pine
paper crag
thanks
vestal mortar
And you can watch after the break
paper crag
that was fast lol
magic zinc
Wow Spriteguy that was quick
vestal mortar
Speedyguy
magic zinc
I like to imagine he's been monitoring this chat for an hour waiting for someone to ask
paper crag
ikr
btw, have any of you guys coached/been coached by anyone on this channel
is it something you set up and pay for, or are coaches mostly volunteers?
vestal mortar
No way, everyone here is a noob
limber pine
i just added the link to the description of this channel @magic zinc
I had it handy 🙃
tight vault
be warned of twitch chat
paper crag
lol i always disable twitch chat
tight vault
yall when league matches are on how bout we be as annoying as twitch chat
paper crag
i meant like just people who watch other players play and give advice to, not the coaches for professional teams O_o
magic zinc
Sprite maybe we could have a pin about just what is Contenders? How it relates to OWL and stuff
paper crag
you know, like the coaches who would frequent the [coaching] tab on this discord server
magic zinc
Ohhh, I think they're all volunteers
scarlet spear
damn kruise already playing
magic zinc
Is he even in NA yet or playing on 150 ping?
scarlet spear
doubt it, probably playing the 150 ping
i gotta get up in 4 hrs and im here watching tier2 tourneys 
XL2 is lookin scary
magic zinc
Honestly sleeping <4 hours might just feel worse than not sleeping at all so just keep going champ
scarlet spear
mangachu 
whole mulch
I'm actually surprised manga wasn't picked up earlier
quasi python
fake soe ?
limber pine
flower is not on XL2
limber pine
he's signed by the main team, just can't play until Season 2
scarlet spear
hes on a great team
scarlet spear
nope
grizzled mulch
scarlet spear
F
deft valley
wew
scarlet spear
better for him i imagine
scarlet spear
same
dusk garden
I would have rather see him not quit but slow down on the streams
scarlet spear
tbh streaming is the thing he should do
molten skiff
or put suspension on streaming
dusk garden
yeah
molten skiff
or make him not use mic during streaming
scarlet spear
its going way better, hes making more money, he has nothing where he has to watch what hes saying
molten skiff
i know sbb had mic ban way back in lw blue times
dusk garden
watch all the xqc fanboys flame kyky and the management team for fuel
scarlet spear
probably
slim summit
How many total regular season matches did xQc play (or was eligible to play)?
8? 10?
dusk garden
6
slim summit
lol
short vault
this is the end
scarlet spear
he obviously did
hidden osprey
BibleThump
thorn forum
ill say this
the day of his suspension he got like 5k in donations in 30 minutes on a discuss
thorn forum
and 12.5k viewers is more than contenders had
dusk garden
it is
scarlet spear
lmao then he would be traded
short vault
na its a meme
scarlet spear
and not just released from the contract
thorn forum
time to check reddit
slim summit
why would they
slim summit
even if he was the #1 tank
he's been suspended for the majority of matches
and he can't scrim while suspended so
slim summit
yeah that's his value i suppose
feral solar
Still idk if it's worth it
short vault
7
dusk garden
Holy shit his jersey is gonna be worth a fuck ton now
hidden osprey
true that
dusk garden
It's gonna be discontinued, people are gonna want to sell it, it's probably gonna be worth a couple hundred bucks
thorn forum
also in one of his streams
feral solar
Buying one shirt costs $120 NZ dollars
thorn forum
apparently if he continues being like he is
feral solar
It sucks
thorn forum
they will ban him from streaming
feral solar
Idk if they can do that? Maybe they can
limber pine
oof
slim summit
they can just ban his blizzard accounts as he makes them
and he'll have to go stream Fortnite
thorn forum
he said they wouldnt let him sttream anymore
short vault
clip?
?
slim summit
i think he means in the subjunctive, implied <if he were to keep being banned by blizzard>
thorn forum
yes
wouldnt let him be a face of there game essentially. i didnt believe it but damn how much of a drama machine he is, who knows
red trench
thorn forum
oh no, he can stream. he will be fine. he probably gained a shit ton of followers
tight vault
a shit ton of 7 year old followers
thorn forum
but like i said. friday he had a donation of 2,000 dollars and another at 1.5k and a couple at 500
i havea screen shot of like 2 of em
dusk garden
I've been following him since he averaged like 1k viewers or less per stream
slim summit
lol
slim summit
He wouldn't leak but it was probably 50k
dusk garden
I actually hope another team picks him up
slim summit
lol
dusk garden
I doubt itll happen tho
slim summit
i also doubt that
thorn forum
now he can do more of what he wants on stream
scarlet spear
he doesnt really seem like he wants to anyways
shy wind
Most people - XQC Drama > Me - Taylor swift delicate video. SMH twitter has done weird stuff to me
anyways I feel like XQC can live off twitch
aslong as twitch lives
but twitch is in a very weird spot atm
scarlet spear
can live off twitch?
dusk garden
as long as he has a bunch of 12 year olds watching him every day he won't die out and he'll keep on making a living
scarlet spear
hes making some serious money off it
hidden osprey
'tis a shame because his main tank play was definitely up there in terms of excitement to watch
hidden osprey
I wonder what Fuel did, if anything at all to help him professionally
or maybe he's just unfixable
slim summit
shoulda flied his mommy out to LA
dusk garden
he did once i think
dusk garden
i think 100 bucks a day is the normal salary for 50k a year 5 days a week
he easily makes more than that per day
thorn forum
^
scarlet spear
he easily makes 5 times what he probably got from OWL from his streaming
slim summit
if his team wasn't trash he could have made quite a bit of money off prizes
hidden osprey
Did anyone see Effect and his gf yesterday on xQcs stream?
balmy wolf
would this mean that he is a free agent again?
hidden osprey
She legit looked like Dva with her cosplay
slim summit
free agent / unemployed, same diff
dusk garden
effect has a gf?
hidden osprey
ye
thorn forum
highly doubt anyone will
slim summit
whichever team wins the grand finals splits $500k between players minimum
thorn forum
custa made a gooodpoint on his streram
balmy wolf
idk what team has shitty tanks?
thorn forum
he is a good player, and a good guy, so he said, but he is a liability with how often he gets banned
slim summit
hiring xqc won't help you if your tanks are bad
molten skiff
mayhem got another tank coming
thorn forum
soo the 4k fine he go
hidden osprey
you say that, but if he sorted himself out then he could pull a fissure for a bad team
thorn forum
got
balmy wolf
tell that to Glads
thorn forum
does that still follow through? any lawyers here?
scarlet spear
yeh
balmy wolf
probs will
scarlet spear
hes also still suspended for stage 2
slim summit
fissure can actually play though
scarlet spear
if he was to be signed
hidden osprey
guess you didn't read the part where I said "if he sorted himself out"
hidden osprey
🤦
slim summit
accurate
hidden osprey
context matters and it just so happened that your message was a direct reply to mine
maybe ping them next time
slim summit
@hidden osprey ok i'll ping from now on
balmy wolf
Well, well it looks like 
got a realization about what they should do
dusk garden
they already have OGE
shy wind
Unless I see a kyky release
thorn forum
LOL the first match he joins!!!
shy wind
dallas has no hope
balmy wolf
because no one wants a deviant in their pro team
hold up guys xqc is leaving dallas fuel?
dusk garden
yeah.
balmy wolf
oh
scarlet spear
he wasnt fired lmao
echo vault
...
dusk garden
he wanted to leave
thorn forum
released from contract
balmy wolf
hmmmmmmmm
scarlet spear
they released the contract
slim summit
it was totally mutual
scarlet spear
thats not fired
echo vault
this guy can't read dont listen to him
slim summit
just like Ben Affleck not directing the batman solo film
balmy wolf
ah
shy wind
welp time to check comp overwatch reddit
slim summit
it's not a professional courtesy to say "oh no it was mutual" or anything like that
we know it's very true
balmy wolf
I think they knew it from the start that this point will come
shy wind
Oh boy it even has a mega thread
balmy wolf
"it was mutual" is the best way to say it politely and press-friendly
scarlet spear
i mean at this point whats there not to be mutual about this
he didnt want to anymore
they didnt want to
balmy wolf
because everyone knows what's behind the whole scenario
tight vault
is the best team
shy wind
Sad thing is owl can't come up with a clear code of conduct
cause if they do people will just find loopholes.
echo vault
yeah that's why the nfl doesn't have one
slim summit
was there something that was ambiguous in his punishment
well wait
they released their code of conduct after some of this shit
so i guess it doesn't matter
shy wind
Also
dusk garden
hes gonna get picked up as a star tracer player at houston
shy wind
Jeez just saw Custa's reaction
balmy wolf
Well I guess they'll find a player with a better player who isn't a dork
scarlet spear
wat
hidden osprey
The most annoying part is xQc was Fuel's best tank by far
dusk garden
clip? @shy wind
scarlet spear
xQc is a great tank no questions bout that
i doubt OGE is an upgrade gameplay wise, lets see if he brings good coms/cohesion
hidden osprey
yeah, Taimou might be a good shot caller but from his gameplay yesterday
he's not cut out for main tank
balmy wolf
Getting a nicer person around is could be better for the team
they could do better I assume
shy wind
Fuel perspective: Impossible to rely on xQc, worried about sponsors, and have limited roster spots
xQc perspective: Made stupid decisions, but was also misunderstood and treated unfairly
OWL perspective: Lost it’s most problematic player, but also probably NA’s most compelling personality
Twitch chat perspective: TriHard 7
thorn forum
i saw that too
shy wind
It's pretty accurate
especially the twitch chat one
Wow
Jake out of all people probably understands this situation the best
echo vault
I saw that clip
thorn forum
he said that before the info was officially released
slim summit
lol
i hope that happens also but not because of jake
just because it would be a deeply absurd and fun controversy
"racists swarm OW to play Junkrat"
hidden osprey
lmao
dusk garden
why do i feel depressed
royal ore
because we live in hellworld
limber pine
because?
obtuse spoke
snowflakes
slim summit
lol
limber pine
uh huh
brisk roost
Lmao
hidden osprey
I'm surprised they haven't banned all but approved emotes by this point
echo vault
they will once they figure out how to work twitch chat without unclemolester or whatever
limber pine
that is Blizz's fault
hidden osprey
"unclemolester" lol
torpid charm
OWL wildin out right now
brisk roost
Oh
whole mulch
Poor xqc :(
slim summit
<stick in bicycle spokes meme>
open bolt
praise jeff
shy wind
It honestly sounds like xQc wanted to play professionally - until he realized what that meant.
No obscene trash talking, having to play in an organized team, having to live with said team (even when tensions were high), and getting penalized in real time if he was out of line.
I know what others have said - that he's passionate about the game or that he has trouble regulating his emotions - but if you're playing at the professional level, they expect you to be a professional. Not a professional entertainer as you'd see on Twitch, either - a professional player.
You can be the best at the game, but if you can't shelve your emotions and work with the team, there's no point in playing at such a high-stakes level. I'm glad xQc realized this before the public opinion of him got even worse. Maybe if he wants to change his ways, he'll be back. -reddit
whole narwhal
What do you mean people want to play professionally because they want to be the best at the game and make money from only playing video games, not because they want to smile, be Disney-clean, and spread good across the world? /sarcasm
hidden vault
Oh wow I love it how Dallas got OGE then kicked xQc out
It's almost a meme
It is a meme
limber pine
Panker is pretty good
flint pasture
it is a meme
whole narwhal
“xQc was the problem”
slim summit
it's actually a good thing to never know who your main tank is going to be in scrims
and to never be able to scrim with your main tank
whole narwhal
Keep ur enemy on their toes for ULTIMATE META
lol joking
Who kept suspending/banning him, his team for his foul mouth or Blizzard for having a foul mouth?
slim summit
both
blizzard did more times
but his team did for a longer time
his team was unhappy with some other things too, i remember them mentioning 'punctuality'
(i think on a seagull stream)
whole narwhal
Doesn’t Blizzard blacklist your computer’s ID if you get banned? Did he buy a new computer every time or something?
Oh, being late is actually no good
Didn’t know that
slim summit
nah, they only account ban
but i think he only got suspended from the game twice
others were just OWL suspensions so his accounts were fine
whole narwhal
I heard the “they ban your computer” thing from somewhere else. Maybe I misunderstood it.
dire warren
They hardware ban cheaters
slim summit
i think they've used hardware bans in other blizzard games
dire warren
they have hardware banned some extreme toxic cases.
There was that one dude sniping Emonng and XQC and Blizzard hardware banned him because the guy had multiple accounts and was toxic sniping on all of them.
whole narwhal
Stream sniping? wat does that have ANYTHING to do with Blizzard
dire warren
the sniping was throwing matches
slim summit
Blizz said he had ruined thousands of games or something
they should probably just stop quantifying their actions
because the last two times it's been some ridiculously stupid number of games
dire warren
yeah, it takes a lot to get perm banned
slim summit
like "hah we banned this NOTORIOUS guy, he threw 1000 times" as if we're supposed to celebrate their 999 matches of apathy
forest raven
verbal roost
How many teams total for contenders? 😮
forest raven
84 teams @verbal roost
verbal roost
Wow nice @forest raven
limpid estuary
Are any of them noteable
onyx shore
lite going 4-0
limpid estuary
I mean teams
forest raven
The TO-XL2 game was lit
forest raven
Fusion Uni has Whoru, GLA Legion has Roolf, Gods and Panker, OpTic has Kaiser, TO has a great dps in Nero, XL2 has Adam and Nenne
limpid estuary
I wouldnt call Tes notable
forest raven
They have a good team
limpid estuary
Oh
forest raven
Guardian's a great off-tank, ex-LH
limpid estuary
Then none of them are from Toronto
hidden vault
Lmao LGD gaming
balmy wolf
xqlul
forest raven
Nenne's in Korea too fam
brisk roost
Wew
broken fog
where is Fl0w3R?
versed sinew
polar pier
brisk roost
Funny how Sinatraa and Fl0w3R were able to play in the World Cup but not OWL lol
flint pasture
flower signed to nyxl but cant play until season 2
cobalt brook
is Contenders like junior OWL or what?
ruby pendant
broken fog
I will explain
OWL is like MLB
Contenders is like Minor league
I forgot the abbribiation for minor league
whole narwhal
MILB
echo zinc
theres a ow world cup?
paper crag
i think it's usually in the late summer-fall ish time?
nvm the top 8 was in november during blizzcon
gaunt shore
xQc 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
quiet shell
Deserved
If your main tank is suspended for 80% of the fuckin tournament than it's not worth to have him on a contract
pearl stratus
So like.. Does the Q in xQc stand for quitter now?
cerulean plume
Its funny to see how many people hate xQc
Meanwhile he reached pro status, made a good amount of money and is a successful streamer
balmy wolf
if he joins the shock, i am gonna be sad
watch his ass get in trouble the moment he sets foot in shock
he should just be a full time steamer instead
why join a pro team?
he has fans, money, and merch already
pearl stratus
I don't hate him personally. I think he's one of the most talented people in the league. I'm more just sad for him and his inability to manage himself in a way to stay.
balmy wolf
^
pearl stratus
Custa's tldr pretty much spoke volumes about it.
He's useless to a roster if he could be suspended at any moments notice. You can't build a team around it, so its better to get rid of it at the end of the day.
tall sierra
I'm watching some VOD's to carry me over lol... jk jk.. just catching up on the Full matches that I had missed... NYXL vs Philly
pearl stratus
That ones painful.
Enjoy the part where SBB basically dismantles all of Philly by himself.
I think its map 3
bitter phoenix
He was made an example of at the end of the day they used him to keep the rest in line. I understand some people have very easily hurt feelings but what ever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words may never hurt me?
spring lintel
Xqc is staying in the US, could it be that he might join another team 🤔
pearl stratus
He was made an example of because he did a bunch of bullshit. The emoji isn't even the entirety of the suspension reasons, but its all anyone latches onto because reading comprehension is not a skill learned in schools anymore.
xQc's biggest problem is his fans, and the fact he doesn't realize they're a group of shitmongers who get him into so much more trouble. He tries to share with them, and talk to them, and gets riled up by them.
bitter phoenix
Go back and watch mlg cod. It was 100x worse and no one batted an eye.
pearl stratus
No one cares about something that failed.
bitter phoenix
I wouldn't say owl is doing any better :p
pearl stratus
Yeah its only gotten a few hundred million in sponsors and teams and twitch contracts.
Doing pretty horribly so far.
It's players tend to get paid, increasingly shown, in the average of 150-250k a year to not be fucking morons.
xQc was on the extreme low end of that scale as he complained about, though you can now see in retrospect that was a smart move.
bitter phoenix
The average viewer count is awful. They will lose a ton of sponsor if they don't get that up. The end of the day views is all that matters.
pearl stratus
Which is where, historically for sports, getting rid of someone like xQc helps more than hurts.
tall sierra
It's like these youngsters need a manager lol... and no their mommy and daddy doesn't count, unless they understand how to manage...
pearl stratus
NBA increased its viewership by up to 40% when they instituted a lot harsher rules and regulations around players actions and dress code.
tall sierra
These kids are so young, most may not understand the importance of a contract, terms and agreements.
pearl stratus
OWL is attempting to bring in viewership from non-traditional e-sport markets because those are the markets you have already.
tall sierra
NFL is a prime example of a bust... it fell so much. Most of my hard core NFL fans stopped watching all together...and these are die hard fans mind you..
Times that by Millions ... yikes
spring lintel
Not really an issue you can solve
bitter phoenix
People getting all upset and offended about something someone says online offends me
spring lintel
And doesnt have to be fans
pearl stratus
NFL has been losing viewers as if it was a career because they can't control their players.
pearl stratus
The Kap thing has cost them viewership in the realm of the millions now.
bitter phoenix
That and boy bands
tall sierra
@pearl stratus perhaps take this time for NFL to change the stupid name from football to something else haha
bitter phoenix
Let's make boy bands illegal
pearl stratus
Parents giving birth to kids who grow up to use twitch chat offends me.
tall sierra
It's nice to see Twitch doing the token thing... that's an effort.
pearl stratus
Lets make giving birth to more kids illegal.
bitter phoenix
China has been doing that for ages
tall sierra
No more limit now..it used to be 2 kids only.
pearl stratus
Either way they want a more public facing respectable league.
And Felix couldn't keep his shit together, its sad. But he's young, he'll grow up.
He makes enough off his stream I'm not worried about him.
bitter phoenix
Did China change it finally? Back when I was in school that was still a thing
tall sierra
Just finished the first round of NYXL vs Philly... my gosh Philly got spanked by Daddy ...feelsbadman
And it only gets worse eh..
EEks
pearl stratus
Yeah they did. Since it was causing infant mortality rates to increase dramatic.
Because of gender preferences, etc.
tall sierra
@bitter phoenix Yea it's back to unlimited breed mode.
pearl stratus
Gotta have that boy.
bitter phoenix
That comes hand in hand with a limit
pearl stratus
Iirc now China is a in a weird place because they lost the 50/50 ratio.
And its like... 70-30 Men to Women.
tall sierra
Yup
bitter phoenix
I have a few friends that would love that ratio
tall sierra
SBB is like a Kobe Bryant ... natural ... so darn good
It's like just another day at the job for him... casual ..smooth..
pearl stratus
Yeah, but then you see the London vs. LAG game.
tall sierra
🙈
pearl stratus
And you see Fissure just crushing his old team, and his follow up banter is so good.
His little stream thing of the phone call was perfect, not rude but funny enough to be glib.
pearl stratus
He was on stream after the game like: "Ring ring. Hello, Gladiators? This is London calling. Can we have fissure back please."
tall sierra
lol
pearl stratus
Just the right amount of sass for a post game of his first time playing his old team.
tall sierra
Strategic ..just enough to get under the skin 😛
Dang..Carpe was carrying so had for Philly though...
pearl stratus
I mean they played the right things, they just couldn't match the tempo.
Thats all stage 2 is ight now.
Which team can be more aggressive and force the tempo to fit their game play.
tall sierra
Yea...Philly was sadly way outclassed.
pearl stratus
And NYXL controlled the tempo from the start of the first map.
hidden vault
Tbh do esport players have a choice to where (which team) they wanna go?
pearl stratus
For original spots yes, but unsure about trading.
tall sierra
At the end of the day... All about the $$?
hidden vault
Then the players choose?
pearl stratus
Traditionally in most teams trading does not always require player consent.
hidden vault
If they wanna leave they leave?
tall sierra
I think they have a call on it, but once they ink that contract..
If they leave early, I'm sure there is a penalty.
pearl stratus
Also I'm pretty sure Rascal/Fissure weren't happy on London.
So that probably contributed to their trades.
Most of London wasn't happy with the coach, and both of them wanted more play time.
tall sierra
The guidelines of singing players, contracts etc... I'm sure still remains within the general guidelines of how other sports handle it.
pearl stratus
And Fissure wasn't going to replace Gesture often.
So he probably asked/requested to be released/traded to a team that would play him more.
pearl stratus
Well London set up isn't really superfluous for mixing as well.
They're two rosters shoved into one team, that they try and make work.
You get a LOT of redundancy.
Since its Cloud and Kongdoo shoved into London Spitfire.
spring lintel
I really don’t know if xqc is very genuine or very manipulative.