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what did he play that 3 season?
with himself probably
^
lul
Like taking a break from O
Im sure he played something. He has too much talent to not play
*OW
But he said many times that he doesn't want to go pro if he can make a decent living streaming
and he actually has changed, he rarely says anything even remotely toxic now
So he'll probably just stream for a while
if you're succesful as streamer
i think its better to be a streamer
less pressure
more money
He's rank 1 and 2 in the world right now, so he
inb4 xqc pulls a dspstanky
so he'll never be unsuccessful
less fame and glory,but ehh...
xqc can't quit overwatch
Yep, that's why I'm seeing that childish attitude from xqc
He just can't lol
J
K E R A T
He loves overwatch too much
pubg is boring as fuck to watch, idk how doc made money streaming it
Yes PUBG is boring to watch
Fortnite, yeah, but i don't think he's as dedicated/addicted to it
Love it @frozen yew ... I'm using that one ... I'll happily buy the patent for that LOL
Camping and stuff
apparently not for many people
you could've said that about dsp, literally the only thing he was known for was his lucio play in ow and quit his job for it then immediately quits overwatch lol
that's why pubg viewership dropped a ton as soon as fortnite came out
Anyways, when Mayhem is stomping Outlaws? :zaryalol:
i'm waiting for overwatch own version of battle royale
that would be a good esport
kappa
I thought that PTSDanky dude was stanky for a while and it made me sad when i found out it wasn't lol
I just want h1z1 to stop being shit. it used to be the perfect BR game haha
lol, nah hes not anywhere near as good as stanky was
Dragons has improved though
i wish the tiebreaker will be 1v1 or 3v3
Undead is missing more shots though,,,
that would be nice for change
linkzr better not get outplayed again
Yeah, but I wish Dragons win a complete match instead a map, just 1 before the stage ends
Nice head shot
lol shadder
@indigo barn you jinxed it
dragons are worse bcos they cant abuse the mercy rez anymore
Wew Zen
those double mercy rez helped them a lot last stage
Dragons still have improved, though
they have to move away from this suicide tank strat, though
LINKZR AINT DONE
Outlaws are doing ok because jake is back on junkrat
honestly think dragons have gave up at this point and are just waiting for the koreans to save them
Wasn't Jake usually a Soldier main?
In world cup, his soldier was impressive
Yeah, he was good in world Cup
Yea the Dragon's are just dragging on right now... Geguri may be the saving grace.
Come on Florida
I don't think so
linkzr just wiped the team
geguri is good, but idk how well she'll do in OWL
I think a lot of people are over hyping her
Geguri's zar is good but zar is niche
cant get worse though
Me: "Oh boy, finally off of work, I just might be able to catch the tail end of Outlaws 4-0ing the Mayhem."
^
how much longer before Geguri plays?
I just tuned in. What the fuck is going on?
She gets away with a lot of greedy/aggressive plays in ladder that she won't be able to do against even a bottom tier OWL team
stage 3?
stage 3
outlaws is slowly waking up
kk ty
Yea it'll be a few weeks at the least
she has a visa meeting on the 15th i think
Mayhem 2-0 Outlaws, WHAT IS THIS GAME?!
and is expected to be in the USA on the 30th
Florida needs to defend this with their lives lol
Meme game
latest dragons tweet said by 3/31
what has outlaws been doing??
fking SUCKING
Getting spanked
linkzEr
all 4 new players by 3/31
Either way, i don't think geguri is this saving grace everyone thinks she will be
Hey @tawdry acorn ...
agreed
sup @tall sierra
Yo
there's no way she will single carry the team into victory streak
on the 21st though, i can't wait to see shock with sinatraa
jake plz
who is signing geguri?
jake trying to prove he isnt a junkrat main but he's a junkrat main
did you all see the reddit thread where people were circlejerking about how incredible jake's tire routes are
shanghai
Jakerat
I was dying at that thread
1 new dps, 1 new support, and 2 tanks so should definitely help
literally just climb a wall, wait for your team to go in, then go in
it's not rocket science haha
Holy shit
aw fuck jake is playing tracer again rip outlaws
jake throwing again lmao
Clockwork: MonkaS
Dang only if that pulse landed..
aw shit reverse sweep?
No pool ...siigghh
I wonder if linkzr's back hurts
eyy its not a 4:0
Yea haha
yea i was hoping for 3-1 so :D they did well
bruh linkzr's back is gonna break
Logix switch plz
I was starting to get cold just thinking about it
you know, from carrying jake's ass
WTF linkzr
Logix is nutty too
and ends up being a kebab at the end of genji's blade and winston's tesla coil
but linkzr is on a whole other level
Widow is kinda needed on that second point though, it's so vertical
still have wet dreams of that shit
Flower's widow pls
Pine is the only mcree as good as calvin imo
Wanted isn't as impressive
Pine is insane though
Yup @quiet shell that was crazy
55 acc
Flower's pharah still haunts me from the world cup
FL0W3R will be here soon... can't wait.
players who look like their heroes: linkzyr and logix
Way more hyped for FL0W3R than sinatraa, honestly
I dont think Calvin will be signing for OWL though will he
Flower pharah on oasis ddestroyed USA
Calvin doesn't want a team
He makes more streaming, with way less stress
I dont think he would work in a team
He would work in a team
team korea was fking stacked
He used to play pro, but his team wasn't great
in an OWL tier team, calvin would be a monster
and he has an insane hero pool
exalted, i just realised why i'm not getting any tokens for map wins
But he'd just have to stop playing so aggressive on mcree is all lol
not linked? lmao
*At this time, viewership awards are available only in Argentina, Canada, Chile, Denmark, France, Germany, New Zealand, Norway, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom and United States.
ohh
Rip Mexico
Bani has hairy arms.
lmao
Reeeeeeeeee Gibraltar
Fuel needs to put rascal, akm, and oge all in at once
I tend to tilt too much in 3rd point
FLORIDA
TAKE
MY
PALMTREES 
I like Gibraltr, though I think a lot of people are bored with it since it was one of a handful of maps when OW first came out, so of course we've all played it a metric fucking shitload.
@gritty yacht true that.
I like the loud people
He's a very good tank, though his behavior needs improvement.
His behavior is completely fine
His behavior’s the best part about him
xQc is no where near best 😛
It’s hilarious
xqc just got another ban lmao
He's up there, in terms of tanks, he's rather good.
4k$$$$$
he got banned for using his favorite emote lmao
people just scapegoating him for nothing at this point
Manchildren should man up and stop being so sensitive
Well using an emote (twitch or OVW whatever) is a retarded reason to get banned
So Florida is pushing rather well.
Damn soyboys always complaining
florida has been performing well lol
"oh he uses an emote he already spammed over 100 times but he used it JUST NOW, fined and suspended idiot"
Jake on Genji
Gesture
Boy
No, he said something like about someone being ga
The payload is progressing without much resitance.
Fate
Gay
no that was he first time
Envy
Poor baby got upset
all better than XQC
Does Hanamura get played on or des OWL avoid that shit?
lthis time he got banned for posting Trihard 7 in the chat
noiwex, that was the first ban lol
literally thats it
Fuck blizzard really
BANNED FOR POSTING TriHard? WAT
Why
Blizzard banned him for 4 matches and fined him 4k
thats all he did
he posted trihard 7 in the chat and just as he posted it, a black caster happened to pop up on the screen, so its apparently "racist"
Nevermind
even though its literally someone hes on good terms with, and coincidence
The payload has stopped moving.
sacking XQC
There's a code of conduct, also he is representing a team and getting sponsors
I wish we got blizzards side of the story instead of just XQC's
Every sport have a code of conduct
CoC by feminists and soyboys
HE USED THE BLADE
Of course xqc thinks the ban is bullshit
he didnt even do anything though
J
K E
I think ban is bullshit too
J LUL K E
OMG
he got banned for using the trihard 7 emote
WHAT AN IDIOT
I wouldn't even pay fine
thats literally iit
BS code of conduct that means you get into deep shit just for making light dun of the enemy team
I'm just saying that it might not seem like bullshit if we had the info that blizzard had.
yeah
Florida is running out of good opportunities for pushes.
and he doesnt pay the fine manually, it comes out of his paycheck
it was that and like 3 other things
do you think E-Sports should be a real Sport? @whole narwhal
honestly blizz treats its pros like shit, im not gonna support OWL lmao
Are you sure about that top
Esports isn’t a real sport
blizz doesn't pay him
Ahhh might as well stop playing in OWL
esport isnt real sport
envyus does
xqc treats people like shit. lmao
that's why its called esport
Just like chess, and just like Magic the Gathering
blizzard hasn't treated anyone like shit
once xQc gets permabanned, its just gonna be another scapegoat
xQc did nothing wrong, really
Chess is considered a real sport lol
Wait, did they use Valk there?!
We don’t call chess or MTG “tabletop sports” or anything stupid like that
Well then that’s stupid
xqc is literally hitler
It was his team that fucking extended the first ban. Blizzard's punishment was pretty fair
Florida are setting themselves up for a good opportunity.
@dreamy belfry you're blizzard extinguishing team? Gtfo
its basic sportsmanship to show respect for the opponent and not talk trash lol
What if Cwoosh didn't play Winston?
no reason to play this game if they balance it around casual players and dont even treat their pro players fairly
No respect for foes
God, even real sports have gotten mega soft
That's why football has penalty's for being a dick lol
well this got political fast lmfao
lmao
top, without casual players, the game doesn't exist

usually it's the one who calls the other nazi first
If Florida's next push isn't succesful, they're going to be up against a wall.
tho im sure that most people would still play this game if it was balanced around pros
there's no income and no viewers without the casual crowd
and it would be a better esport in that case
making it political
Doubt
What countries punish for genocide denial?
It’ll always get political if we start talking about whether you should get punished for making fun of the enemy team
theres a reason so many old pro players outright quit this game lol
blizz doesnt care about pros
t. Zoe Quinn
I can confirm. I am a gamer and I am dead.
I had yesterday, what's your issue
i hate mercy so much
My ghost manspreads on the train all the time
c9 gg
Oh no
Woow
FUCKIN LOGIX
Yo what does c9 mean?
cloud 9
Cloud 9?
Cloud 9
WHy?
actual c9
DUDE'S AS WIDE AS HE IS TALL
Why is it being when a team has a bad round?
it means winning, or losing, or taking a point, or losing a point
killing someone, dying
everything's c9
Uhhhh, hmmm.
C9 = trying to kill the enemy team instead of focusing objective, then lose
@dreamy belfry thats what it eventually became, yes. but not the original
Yeah i know
Derived from APEX
@whole narwhal Why do you have that name?
Gamergate isn't about nazizm
Why the fuck not
twice in one tournament, cloud 9 on attack were winning fights and pushed forward in overtime to secure kills
he likes the letter j, leave him alone
It's about corruption in game journalism
Why the fuck shouldn’t I be called JJJJJJJjjjjjjjjjj
Get your facts straight
but they all left the point and lost it
Or you will look like a fool
It was super fucking funny lmao
WHAT the fuck should my name be? Do you have something freakin’ better than my name?
Alright you're trolling
i'm still waiting for somebody to pull the military card
Then you're stupid
Well, I knew someone in an old MMO whose name was a bunch of J's.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Respect whamen
lol
its our chat now
there was this guy saying he was in military to support his argument
houstons over here playing team deathmatch
xQc did nothing wrong
I mean, that
ok
that's not true
whos shitting on people in the military?
Goddamn is gonna be a tiebreaker huh
why?
I mean
what a meme
fuck with them. They can take it.
Don't fuck in the military
gorilla warfare
is that when you beat people to death with a banana?
why?
Linkzr spamming hello
Come on FL ...
Uh oh Linkzr is gonna get banned for spamming!!!1!1!1
My gosh HOOLLDD
@tall sierra ...
rip
Wtf
what a god play by jake
Sup @tawdry acorn
dont cheer for florida
Jake is playing quite well.
jesus christ what is wrong with you

I know I know..one time gig
Jake is really, really on fire.
Just like, extra on fire.
He's like, fire, on fire.
logix needs to genji or something instead of trying to countersnipe linkzr
Better than jakerat
jake is on fire your defence is terrfied
Jake is like cold as fucking ice, then all the sudden his adderall kicks in, then he plays out of his gourd for like 5 mins. then he goes back to ice
I think the momentum has swung Houstons way, Florida is really feeling the pressure, and the anxiety is setting in
wow that amazing bladde
tbf its more mayhem is shit and letting him do it
Jake is really on a roll, like holy shit.
linkzr is a way better widow than logix
just wait
jake has a riptire
he still has time to switch to tracer
This game goes both ways... If, FL win's...HUGe for a bottom tier team.... if Houston win's.... just show's how much FL sucks lol
That was like, the best minute of Overwatch I've seen on stage two.
Double edged sword.

holy shity
tviq god
How did that work!
Wew
these blades are top tier
bye linkzr
Oh dang...
Tviq is Jaking.
OT OT

oh god jakecer is back rip
GAME 5
Oh snap.
thank god
FINISH THIS SHT
OMG YES

HUSTOOOON
I WANNA SLEEP
@tawdry acorn I would have not thrown that ult lol..
mayhem is actually doing really well though
LEGOOO


Jesus man

smh
That dva bomb lost em the map
the reverse sweep is getting real
Yea lol
babybabybabybabybabybaby
I wish my cockfucking roommate would stop redownloading all his fucking CAD software after he reinstalls twice a month so I could get a 1080p60 stream but subletting, whatever.
Houston was too far forward ...
Dva couldnt save the zen b/c she was remeching
Come on I need to go to bed but this is too enteretainig
And she lost her ult too
@gritty yacht Your router? limit his bandwidth.
do it anyway
Fuel doesn't exist anymore
Huge dick move
reinstalling CAD software? why
he's a sublet
g'day
not a dick move
He's what you'd call a "power user".
i install it and leave it
We all sublet.
i changed my name u happy now
just block his mac address
get your own place and stop being a pleb
this music doh
and it takes so long to install
Borrow the neighbors WiFi for his downloads...
this music
WiFi ew
inb4 subletting from your parents
Gross nasty
HEY HOE HOE HOE
LAN4Lyfe
pleb
pls no reverse sweeperino
WiFi for him.. not for your gaming 😛
Wifi is miserable.
Houston can't lose to memehem,i won't allow it
I will
even if outlaws win this,the map difference is already to small
Houston cant lose from McDonalds
3 win 2 losses
I think at this point...the whole wow factor sheds more on FL for even getting two wins
Win or Lose
yeah
Win or Lose, Florida "won" this series
I mean...taking 2 maps away from Houston's map count could cost Houston big
and I'm diehard Houston
houston is probably doing bad because i just bought a outlaws skin before this match up
^
samething happened with boston
Probably because I got the Houston Outlaws T-Shirt and wore it to school
also got fusions
Keep in mind mercy nerf is huge
certain teams are just worse without it
most are better
@tawdry acorn qp later? Rock that houston skin 😛
Keep in mind Houston isn't a mercy team
bring out the mcrees mfkers
Houston used to run mercy junkrat to 1 shot tracers
with 0 falloff
now they won't do that
logix has more space
Jake's running Tracer. I've heard bad things. Let's see how this goes.
any team that runs tracer is now stronger vs. houston
to a certain extent, yes, they were a mercy team
Hmm, Linkzr seems to have let Cwoosh kill him
yea this map is not a good widow map
ruins is better
He went to Genji
@iunlcok
@tall sierra I may play a few. Gotta go to bed at some point.
Oh no.
kk
1:40 am for me
Yikes
Should call it a night after this match then..
FL better make a move quick..time is ticking..
It's annoying that OWL goes to 2:00am. I'd like to watch the last matches but I usually can't.
Nevermind jake
Yea..
loool that pulse
Gj Jake
Spam fest for them tokens
twitch chat is cancer in general
Tfw can't hide chat on the twitch app
yes you can
The only way i found to hide it was to put it in popout mode
ooh nice burst shot
for android or ios? theres a chat button to hide it in full screen
"Ooh yeah let's swap off the ulting Genji to show Jake playing Tracer for 3 seconds"
Android
MonkaS Florida pls win
Do you see any pro McCrees using right click? Replace the ability?
Was that on purpose lol
MeLtEd
Slipped on a banana peel
TVIQ
I've seen it used. Also, the vast majority of players aren't pros, and do use it.
yea theres a chat button on android, to the left of the rotate button
in full screen
Oh i found it lmao, i just assumed it was under settings, didn't think to look there lmao
Catering to pros is understandable, but don't build the game around it. This isn't CS:GO
😦 GG
so close
Whooaat
Yeesss
e z p z
We were so close
lol
lol damn rekt
Denied by BLizzard prgramming

tryhard seven in the chat
Houston is excited not have lost to FL lol
REVERSE SWEEEEEEEP
Generally though balancing for high levels works for balancing lower levels
Crazy shit pros notice is usually stuff noobs don’t notice/care to use
Yea..
But he's talking about removing an ability entirely because pros don't make as much use of it compared to lower levels @whole narwhal
Fan the Hammer, to be specific
Fan the Hammer would be better if the recoil wasn’t random
Jumping off the map isn't used at low levels, but you see it in every pro game.
Why don't you add a suicide button?
McCree doesn’t exactly seem like the type who is supposed to take down shields
A Suicide button would actually be helpful, like if you NEED to switch char. But is Suiciding balanced around how slow it is to Suicide?
All I'm saying is that even if they didn't use it, normal players use it, and thus it should stay in the game.
Pro players don't use dead eye for kills. Remove it.
Oh yeah
If pros dont use it
either rework or dont touch it
removing it altogether would be dumb
Suicide would have to be balanced pretty hard to avoid players killing themselves to avoid giving the other team ult charge.
its cool, mayhem will rekt fuel tomorrow
A suicide button would either add a layer of skill or make it frustrating to play against. Maybe they should add it to PTR
Give it a spin
It would be frustrating
oh my god a suicide button would be terrible
Especially if you could suicide mid-fight
shock destroys nyxl tmr
jumping off the map to keep enemy team from getting ult is horrible gameplay mechanics, not skill
it was a joke
and you took it too far
In CSGO if you suicide, the enemy gets eco compensation for it. So what if in OVW if you suicided, it’s considered an elimination and they can still build ult?
"I'm playing a game right now, and the best way for me to help my team in this situation is to jump off the map and die, otherwise I am feeding" Is not good for gameplay
But the elim isn't just what builds ult. It's also the damage you deal.
its a clever use of game mechanics, or a bug, if you will.
So if the fight went on longer, you could get more ult charge, because they'd be trying to survive, possibly using health packs or getting healed
And that's only one reason out of many
REVERSE SWEEP!!!!
Im so sad
in csgo you hide to save a weapon for the next round instead of trying to get kills when outmatched
did
did I just see a guy called "COOLMATT" with a massive 69 on his back?
wtf is this esport
that's beautiful
and he is extremely matt
true
I think he said he made his name as a little kid or something
in csgo you hide to save a weapon for the next round instead of trying to get kills when outmatched
Yeah, I think it’s a pretty interesting strategy
Which explains the “coolmatt69”
No
haha got it ty
god there are more people complaining about xQc spammers than there are xQc spammers at this point
there was a dota player who got picked at the biggest dota tournament to play with pros in a custom game mode, he claimed his gamer name was 420BootyWizard 
GOD
TriHard7
Has anyone had to change their username for OWL because their username was considered too unprofessional for OWL?
Well
Aside from every team ever
I mean, COOLMATT69 isn't exactly classy
I heard that cwhoosh is bad as fuck
Can anyone confirm, heard he was the worse main tank in owl.
so probably shadder2k will also change his name if he plays in owl
shadderTwoK
Can his shirt number be 2k?
Why are numbers in username not allowed?
If your usernae was MyName1000 do they just say MyName, or do you have to change it to something else?
It becomes MyName and then the number of your shirt is 1000 most of the time
MyNameOneThousand
Not sure if they are allowed with more than 2 digits
i think coolmatt still have number 69 on his shirt,right?
MyNameOneZeroZeroZero
yes
God that’s kinda dumb, but w/e
Inb4 they start making people just use their real names
I bet he's making bank off of this
Getting a shit ton of publicity and donations for his measly 4k.

Shadder2k -> ShadderTookay
ShadderIIk
ShadderSecondK
Shadderk^2
What if your username is really long
Do they shrink the text on your shirt
Or do you just shorten the username
Yes
Better get into the Overwatch League and find out
Oh, I forgot about that
I was really used to having longer usernames before settling for a string of j’s (for now)
So I was just wondering
🤔
Overwatch League username restrictions isn't something you'll have to worry about
I guess I can’t have the username “Diamond is the hardest metal” on Battlenet. Ahh, sad.
Yeah the character cap is a battlenet thing
UH OH BROS
He is so done LUL
What’s he going to do? Become full-time streamer? Go teamless? Go pro on a different game? Non-OWL Overwatch pro?
Neither of them are exactly stable careers though
Owl probably gonna die after 5-4 years
OWL is probably gonna become nicher and nicher down the line but it won’t die completely (like Starcraft)
for less fame and glory,but eh...
not really
streaming is cancer in gaming industry
look at seagull
Streaming isn’t stable at all unless you get a partnership. Then it’s slightly less unstable.
Don’t become DarkSydePhil 
you can still make patreon
dont put all your eggs in the same basket dude
save for the future,diversify your investment
what's the problem with that?
seagull can always go back to streaming and make money
Streaming won’t die, but individual streamers will
Who will still be streaming when they are 60?
that's why you need to have other plans
Streaming really isn’t a stable career choice for an individual. If you have good networking skills you can get lucky and become a video editor or something, but otherwise it doesn’t make for a good future. Same with pro-gaming.
that's why you save and tries to retire early
who the fuck wants to stream forever
you can make money other way like investing in other things
Streaming should only be a part-time job at most.
Except streaming is more stable than OWL for popular streamers like seagull and xqc
agreed
Other players sure, they are not that popular snd owl is better for them
Annoying Orange guy became an actor but who the fuck’s heard of him for the last several years 
Seagull made the dumbest choice I have ever seen, he used to have 20k viewers steady
And now if he is gonna stream again he is gonna get like 5k or so. And have to build it again
All his subs are gone too
Seagull isn't gonna go back to streaming, he'll coach or rep for dallas once he "retires"
lol suer
Annoying Orange is such an original nickname for Trump. (sarcasm)
You think being a coach is better than streaming with 20k viewers or being a popular player?
Dafuq do pro-gamers do when they “retire”. Work at McDonalds for the rest of their lives?
Like if he didn’t enjoy streaming and hate it then it’s fine.
sometimes
I mean
being the least famous that could possibly be considered 'famous' for a few years is great but like
if he wants to play he'll play on dallas
and he's still popular
getting into the corporate side of esports has vastly more growth potential
@whole narwhal when pro gamer retires,they usually streams
And FO gives him ability to use the personality/charisma but not have to play the game when he wants to be done with it
and your game won't die / you won't lose your appeal / a twitch ban won't ruin your career / you'll get actual benefits for many years to come
If you’re the people that manage and set up the venues then yeah that has a lot of career potential. But simply playing the game doesn’t.
if my friend (a college dropout) can retires at 35 years old,i dont see how these guys can't
Happened with dafran, albeit a little more flamboyant
Jesus, what was he? A Marine?
Seagull will never play in that roster ever
He would be lucky to be played in a t2 scene
Why do they need seagull when they have Rascal 
you might be able to retire at 35 as a pro gamer if you start very early, make as much money as possible, and are actually smart with it
but half these kids are wearing yeezys
@whole narwhal nah,he's a landlord now,collecting money from rents and play games all day
lol being a landlord isn't being retired
That's his problem, similar to nevix
he stopped working 9-5
too flexible to the point you're not special at anything
well shit I don't work 9-5 either
Master of Nothing
I work 8-5 
basically
they are in terms of the game, the oldest players
they've been around since the beta
How can you be a pro who’s played for that long yet not be a master of anything
not everyone can be the best
Bests only exist because there are people who aren’t as good as them, yeah
Is he getting too old? Are his nerves getting rusty?
I do remember he had a problem with himself, that he'd stop breathing while sleeping, which he had to take a break from ow
Ah
sleep apnea
Yeah, he had that
I dunno when your reflexes start declining, but mid-30s seems like that would be around the time
There are a lot of fighting game pros who are in their 30s though
I'd assume it'd be later than 30s reflexes start declining
just an assumption though
Fighting games feels like it's more about combos than reflexes
hitting the right buttons at the right times
That’s still reflexes haha
In SF parries are all abou reflexes (but have been dumbed down with extra frame buffers after SF3)
That is true, lol
I don't play many fighting games, so I'm not well cultured with it
TriHard 7
to all of you people that can't let go the xQc situation and have no lives https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/83e140/malik_explaining_the_problem_with_tryhard_and_xqc/
I'm just preaching to the choir here, but xQc did nothing wrong when it came to that emote. I'm not even an xQc fan, but clearly he was using it for months beforehand. He isn't racist and neither is the emote. It was not used in a racist way. Trust me, if someone is racist they won't be afraid to tell you. Racists don't hide their opinions. If you have to keep accusing them of it and they keep defending themselves against it, then perhaps you're the one in the wrong, not them.
Racist, sexist, homophobic etc are just frivolously thrown about these days. Like everyone has hidden prejudices that you feel the need to expose. Speech alone is hardly ever actually prejudicial. Actions are, but words are just words.
Kinda like his comment vs muma. It was wrong. He admitted it and apologized immediately, yet he still got punished. It's dumb.
That doesn't make him homophobic. It was just an insult that he immediately realized went too far.
Another thing is how muma wasn't offended and neither was malik. Does that make the speech ok? No. But there doesn't need to be fines and suspensions for it either. People are always afraid of someone else being offended and speaking on others' behalf. People need to stop feeling offended for others. If someone says something that offends you personally, then take it up with them and ask them to stop using that particular language.
just stop dude,people already made their mind since that announcement
on one camp xqc is innocent no matter what,on another camp he's wrong no matter what
what i learned from today's event is that blizzard doesnt react well to drama
but many more drama will come
Well blizzard's getting in with the Esports and from there comes drama
they'll have to learn as they go
agreed
Not saying xqc is always innocent. He was banned before for throwing. 1 game out of thousands mind you, and in reaction to being stream sniped for months, but still
The bans, the suspensions and the fines are the standards that Blizzard has set so no matter if XQC is innocent or not, whether society should care bout words or not is a moot point
Blizzard has set the guidelines and as such take it up with blizzards restrictive contract
my personal wish is i wish the next watchpoint will be toned down with the insult
I just wish twitch chat is just not cancer
i think if it's not okay to insult caster,then it's also not okay for caster to insult players
What if I used a pepe emote/meme? Would I be banned because the ADL says it's racist? What of the ok symbol? Just because someone says it is racist does not mean that it is or that I use it in a racist way.
@solar trout You'll be banned according to the rules of wherever you emote at
@keen warren what we learned from today that banning people using trihard will not make it stop
trihard isn't against the rules
It isn't but Blizzard has stated or inferred in their contract that talent and players gotta be whiter than white (if you pardon the idiom) in their actions
Its like banning him for using J LUL K E if jake suddenly got mad about it.
^^
I got nothing bout the emote, but you gotta understand that blizzard has total control over the players so they have to play within what blizzards code of conduct and companys ethicical standards
I would rather criticise BLizzard's contractual standards more than the ongoing "OMG Society IS TOO PC" bullshit
but srsly,i'm really disappointed with monte
that watchpoint segment
and that banter with xqc on twitter
Well Blizz and the rest of the OW community better buckle up cuz stuff like this will keep occuring
there's no precedent set since it's the 1st time something like this occurs
i like him as a caster,i really do,his casting with doa is the best so far
but that banter with xqc is just wow
and he's supposed to be the adult on that convo
You can't punish someone for something that isn't against the rules.
And as mentioned the casters need to watch their mouths too
doesnt matter the truth,doesnt matter what you think
^^
it's what blizzard think
Exactly
Blizzard and all the people and companies that have invested millions into OWL
They all have corporate images that needs to be spotless
Thus the players and Talent will be under the heaviest scrutiny possible
Indeed
if i may be a little bit asshole here,imo
the one who will boycott your product bcos of something like this
are the one who didnt even consume your product at all
Conduct detrimental
Blizzard has proven that they, their moderators and casters are an extreme joke with this event.
but those people complain the loudest
If you are that shallow that you become offended over a simple emote, you have yet to actually go through real hardships in the real world, and as such these type of people should NOT be allowed in any position of power to decide on anything.
If you allow them the power over anything, we end up with disgusting behaviour, like this.
if i may ask a little bit
when xqc call the casting "cancer" which caster did he mean?
semmler or monte?
or casters in general?
He tweeted that the casting gave him cancer
in context of?
He didn't refer to any specific casters, he referred to the fact that the casters are bad
ah i see
And he made a fair point, these are pretty bad casters imo
imo,semmler and hex kinda improved
but those casters on watchpoint are taking things too far
But you don't tweet something like that, you would approach people in private and ask if they're open to some feedback.
Why?
like suggesting to amputate is just mean
imagine if xqc did the reverse and he suggested to amputate monte from caster body
what would happen?
They are childish and pathetic enough to ban over an EMOTE and fine thousands of dollars, as well as making jokes about amputation
But that's fine to say in public right? But calling the casters bad isn't? There's a problem with that logic....
and dont forget,those amputation line is approved by blizzard
Oh yeah of course, blizz is fine with recommending amputation to people
But god forbid using an emote! No no no, that's racist!
as for taimou,i kinda agree with his fine,but i can understand that the word wasnt use in harmful meaning towards gay people
People are starting to say Dallas Fuel when they rek in comp games
its the new meme
as for tairong...whatever...he's not contracted to blizzard iirc
Even the taimou one i don't get. It wasn't aimed at the fact he was gay, it was aimed at just randomly venting. How the flying hell can THAT be considered an attack on gay people?!
the taimou's incident reminds me of pewdiepie n-word controversy
it's a bad word,it's a fuckup
I hear people call others and even myself on occasion to "Suck a xxxx" or various other insults and gay jokes, why are none of them banned?
It's the always on camera damocles sword these people have. People may not like but when you become famous you gotta play by a certain set of rules
It's a bad thing bout society
that makes me kinda feel bad for profit
People, ESPECIALLY the ones like blizzard need to chill about social justice.
Reason why Ariana Grande gets her name plastered over every gossip mag when she licks donuts but the craphead down the street just gets shouted at by the owner
If people are pathetic, call them pathetic, let them accept it. Don't enforce their beliefs on others.
When you get famous, when you get thousands of followers and fans, what not. You gotta be careful of what you do. It's just how it is. A normal person has leeway on their actions. Personalities don't sadly.
Cuz whatever a personality does is automatically reflected on Blizz and the game
imo,there's 50:50 chance that xqc gonna quit/fired after this
that's just how it is now
Reason why Companies like Blizz, Companies lIke Riot are heavy handed on the bans
what's the point of playing in OWL if you're not happy
xQc will likely quit.
Hell, i would've quit on the first chance i see shit like this, either to myself or someone else
He's got a 4 game suspension and a fine, and it's his second strike
I hope he doesn't maybe he could push through this
he probably already make that 4k back on today's stream
his donation was ringing like crazy
Well it depends where he puts his priorities and his income. OWL would give him a steady paycheck for atleast the limits of his abilities
Maybe streaming would be more profitable but it all depends on how long he can keep up the donations
The problem is, as blizzard and the casters have proven, OWL is policed by actual cancer.
Stream is not guaranteed, as it can stop at any point yes, but it's a hell of a lot more fun that being in an eSports scene.
Well you'll have to see the aftermath, if people stop watching the stream due to what you consider Blizzards Unethical practices then yeah Blizz will change
if nothing happens then, sorry mate tragedy of the majority
yeah
Facts of life
I've been in esports before, you are not allowed to criticize players, not allowed to criticize the other team, not allowed to make fun of them, even as a joke. Not allowed to criticize the game, not allowed to laugh about bugs you encounter, etc.
The only things you are allowed to do is smile, pretend the game is fantastic and make it look good
i think xqc make more than 50k/year from streaming
Yeah didn't he make all his fine money back in that stream yesterday
To me that's the absolute worst about the majority of esports, you cannot do anything.
idk about league of legends
but dota2 pro scene isn't even this sensitive
heck,valve even stood by the fans when they were screwed by ESL
It's a new industry, that's how it is. Until regulatory bodies are set up, the game devs have discretionary control over their IP and those who play in it
Look up War Thunder if you have the chance, they had a tournament a long time ago, i abandoned it within a few days, the oversensitivity was fantastic. Anything negative = banned and fined, Criticize = banned and fined, do anything but smile, and make the game look good, and chances are you'll be banned and fined.
just regulate what necessary,like gambling
Honestly, the government NEEDS to step in the esports scene, mainly because some developers are unbelievably over-sensitive, and literally snowflakes.
Not the gov't but Supranational Associations. Football has FIFA. Racing has the FIA, every sport has a regulatory association to protect and regulate the sport and the game
btw,sorry if i'm back on old topic,bcos you mention fifa
Without a force to make a set of proper rules, you end up with snowflakes like these around that ban people over something as silly as emotes, that should be unacceptable
i watched somewhere
that the league actually contacted dallas fuel management after the trihard emote incident
and ask DF to bench xqc
not suspend,but bench him
isn't that like..match fixing?
Nah
can you imagine fifa telling argentina not to play lionel messi at world cup?
Match Fixing is a third party organisation
Well Association rules state that if a player who gets a number of Yellow cards is not allowed to play the following game
@onyx shore I'm really not surprised that blizzard is pathetic enough to ask to bench a player. That's literally match rigging
Everything i've seen about blizzard in the past destroyed whatever opinion i had left of these guys as a company
in this context,suspension is not the same as benching
Which is the same as Blizz telling DF to bench xQc for not abiding to the contract
