implying twitch is any better with other big streamers
#esports-discussion
deft valley
pearl stratus
I think honestly he'd be fine if he didn't share everything with his stream, since this all goes back to him anyway.
Like tonight he decided to just blurt out "OWL told Dallas to bench me". True statement. Fair statement if it happened.
But his fans are just flat out stupid and will make it a big thing.
Which will get him in more trouble.
echo vault
That kind of is
cobalt brook
frozen yew
I dont
pearl stratus
I think if they go SDB they'll 4-0.
warped axle
3-2 Fusion
frozen yew
Lol
pearl stratus
I think Eqo will surprise them enough they get one map before they adapt to him.
warped axle
4-0 Spitfire
pearl stratus
So it'll be an early map
neat wedge
Let me know the results of the first 2 matches with London and New York. I'm not watching because of the xqc situation
pearl stratus
Then they'll win the rest.
warped axle
3-1 Outlaws
pearl stratus
Just check the website.
jovial jewel
did xQc get 
?
pearl stratus
Four games.
neat wedge
yes
echo vault
lololololol this guy
neat wedge
and we've all lost count of what number suspension this is for him
echo vault
no most people can count to 'two'
warped axle
echo vault
but if you can't, no biggie
pearl stratus
Anything prior to the league doesn't matter.
jovial jewel
the new meme is xQc getting banned as soon as he's unbanned
pearl stratus
If it did, there wouldn't be a league.
neat wedge
the little girl is still tryna reply to me. I've blocked you you fucking idiot
I cant see your messages
pearl stratus
Prior to the league any large player has multiple times told people to kil themselves.
Pick a person.
deft valley
No one cares about your stupid fucking drama
echo vault
@slim summit awww this guy thinks he matters still
pearl stratus
Only care about what happened in the league.
Anything beyond that and you're just as stupid as xQc.
deft valley
can both of you shut the fuck up seriously
neat wedge
I stopped ages ago
vague urchin
would you look at that xQc is suspended and fined
warped axle
vague urchin
again
deft valley
No you did not
pearl stratus
Either way OWL needs to make a lot of their fining and rules more public.
To stop 90% of the stupidity.
vague urchin
and taimou got fined aswell
neat wedge
Yeah I was surprised at the Taimou thing
deft valley
Should also set up an appeal process
neat wedge
Never saw him to do that type of stuff
jovial jewel
TL;DR: don't do offensive shit if you are in OWL
pearl stratus
Ideally the players would unionize.
deft valley
An official one
pearl stratus
What Adam?
vague urchin
tairong recieved a warning
pearl stratus
Taimou is one of the most toxic people on OW.
vague urchin
and silkthread got fined
pearl stratus
He literally makes xQc look like a kitten.
brisk roost
ERIIIIN ❤
echo vault
@pearl stratus do you really think they have a set of conditions written down? I highly doubt it or it wouldn't take months to respond to things?
neat wedge
is he?
vague urchin
ok i'm off to watch the overwatch league now
neat wedge
I dont really pay attention to him so I always assumed he was kinda low key
vague urchin
byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
marsh pumice
hi all
pearl stratus
I think they have at least a skeletal outline.
brisk roost
pearl stratus
I'm sure without the completion of a full season its not hard tuned.
That much is obvious.
neat wedge
but I'm not buyin taimou is worse than xqc lol no chance
pearl stratus
xQc is toxic because of his fans, not because of him. As much as its a meme to hate on him as much as Jake (And I fucking hate xQc)
echo vault
@pearl stratus yeah 'if reddit post = true ban'
brisk roost
#FreePuckett
pearl stratus
I'm sure there's also more to it than just the reddit.
neat wedge
Toxic because of his fans?
pearl stratus
Which is where the transparency is obnoxious.
neat wedge
So his fans made him say and do all this shit?
pearl stratus
He says some stupid shit.
His fans exacerbate it and bring it WAY too much attention.
mortal walrus
The amount of TriHard 7's lmao
neat wedge
Yeah that may be true but its still HIS decision to act like that
neat wedge
HE'S to blame nobody else
pearl stratus
But if his fan base wasn't as vitriolic I would say a large chunk of his comments would go unknown.
But they clip his stream in real time and post it everywhere.
neat wedge
I think if anyone associated with Blizz ever made such controversial remarks, regardless of where it is, there will always be someone ready to clip it/screenshot it and send it to blizz
that includes xqc
scarlet spear
yikes the trihard 7 spam on the stream
neat wedge
but that just shows how dumb he is to stream to so many thousands of people and say all that stuff infront of them
pearl stratus
Not really. Because like you just said.
You were surprised at Taimou.
You prove your own point wrong.
neat wedge
How does that prove my own point wrong
echo vault
I heard there's a twitch mod with a lot of free time if they need help curbing the 'racist emotes'
pearl stratus
Because he's just as largely associated with blizzard as xQc is.
But his fan base doesn't soundclip to everywhere.
neat wedge
Just because I dont necessarily follow Taimou doesnt mean there will be others who would find his comments and send it to blizz
Well they clearly do hes been penalised
brisk roost
Bro Kellex's hair looks smooth asf
neat wedge
yeah Kellex is fine af
scarlet spear
what taimou said so far has been kinda tame for his normal streams tbh
neat wedge
KappaPride
pearl stratus
That's what the point is Pfre.
pearl stratus
Fair then. Also it feels weird defending xQc at all, since I think he's an idiot.
But facts are facts.
Stupid facts -.-
scarlet spear
wasnt it even more?
slim summit
ok but
pearl stratus
Probably, but Twitch wasn't huge then.
scarlet spear
it used to be a subemote for reckful
slim summit
people 100% spam it when malik shows up
neat wedge
Correct but theres something to be said about deliberately putting that emote in the chat once a black person is on the screen.
slim summit
i went through many vods
pearl stratus
Oh yeah.
That's very true easymac.
No denying that.
But that doesn't make the singular user in questions use of it that same meaning.
And while I think he's stupid enough to say a lot of things, I actually don't fully buy that he meant it as he did. I think his fans did though.
And then spammed the ever loving hell out of it whenever Malik showed up.
neat wedge
So people use Trihard in the chat on large scale spam whenever a black person is on the screen through pure coincidence?
pearl stratus
Which screws him over hard.
Please reread with elaborated thought.
I think he used Trihard7 because he uses it way too much.
neat wedge
Disagree
south pelican
What about sbb
pearl stratus
I still want a fine breakdown at some point though.
Because I don't understand why profits middle finger is the same fine as Taimou's outburst.
That doesn't line up to me.
neat wedge
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
echo vault
"[2018-02-01 03:30:19 UTC] xqcow: TriHard 7" was this one racist?
lucid skiff
who tf is this new guy
neat wedge
LOL
pearl stratus
I can understand why Taimou's fine was lower than xQc's fine - because xQc's statement was against another league player.
neat wedge
Shouldn't xqc's punishments be scaling upwards though because of how frequent he's breaking the rules
south pelican
Birdring and Profit are my fav
pearl stratus
They did.
pearl stratus
You have to remember xQc's first punishment was only longer because the fuel made it so.
neat wedge
How much was his first fine again?
pearl stratus
2k. This doubled it.
neat wedge
oh ok
pearl stratus
Which seems fair in terms of a second offense.
neat wedge
I thought the first one was also 4k
are you sure this is his 2nd offense
i feel like its his 3rd
pearl stratus
In the league, yes.
dusk garden
i think adam doesnt know how to count
lucid skiff
this edgy music doe
pearl stratus
Profit, Silkthread, Taimou, Tairong all have first offenses.
neat wedge
I dont know if thats a joke or not
pearl stratus
xQc has two.
dusk garden
no im serious
pearl stratus
xQc did have a ban pretty close to OW league starting.
neat wedge
Oh ok
pearl stratus
Which is where you're probably getting bleed in from.
dusk garden
its not 1-6-2-3-4-5-7-8-9
neat wedge
It's just a shame for you that idgaf
dusk garden
which you thought it was his 6th offense
pearl stratus
In terms of overall bans/silences etc? It probably is around 6.
dusk garden
wow you must be a fanboy then
pearl stratus
But again only counting what happens from OWL starting is what matters.
Where its 2.
slim summit
3
dusk garden
if you know how many offenses he has
slim summit
he was suspended in game for false reporting after OWL started
or rather
after he was signed
neat wedge
You're boring me
dusk garden
im not saying thats the number
neat wedge
yawn
slim summit
semantics but
pearl stratus
Yeah I don't count that one, personally.
dusk garden
go to sleep kid
pearl stratus
Just like I don't count Effects.
dusk garden
its too late for you
pearl stratus
Effect I give a pass because after the whole Tim thing it turned out Effect was right (but did the wrong thing)
neat wedge
Muted, not interested in taking this further
echo vault
lol this guy
echo vault
he's going to be pretending to mute so many people he won't be able to keep it straight
dusk garden
hes literally 10 years old lol
hidden osprey
jovial jewel
moderation at its finest???
pearl stratus
Eh. I don't think its right, but its just upset angry xQc fans doing it.
hidden osprey
It's so stupid, they should just filter the word out
pearl stratus
So its not exactly a loss of anything important.
hidden osprey
That's not the point Endoken
jovial jewel
why dont they just block the word
echo vault
hahah that is precious. I typed trihard 4000 so RIP my alt account on twitch.
jovial jewel
🤔
neat wedge
Yeah, the xqc fangirls are the only ones trying it
south pelican
people are already spamming trihard 7
hidden osprey
It was never to do with xQc, that emote was a problem way earlier in Stage 2
jovial jewel
it was because people spammed it at that guy
brisk roost
Boston is holding strong asf
slim summit
dusk garden
i bet 50 bucks adam tried it
hidden osprey
exactly
pearl stratus
I mean if it was a problem earlier in stage 2
Then its a perfectly valid way to handle it.
slim summit
the very first time malik was on stage xqc posted it
pearl stratus
People always say they don't want people to be wusses about stuff.
hidden osprey
It's why Malik said live: "Let me know your thoughts when you're done spamming that uh... TriHard emote or whatever it is"
slim summit
feb 7th
pearl stratus
Permanent ban is pretty set and hard.
hidden osprey
No its not, they should just filter it rather than ban it
especially when it's gaining so much attention
slim summit
so if it was a problem earlier in stage 2
jovial jewel
why not just filter it instead of escalating the problem by perma banning people who type it
slim summit
xqc was there too
neat wedge
I agree a filter would be better but maybe blizz is tryna seem like theyre cracking down on this hard
dusk garden
'cause people are dumb and like to ban people
hidden osprey
The only reason why xQc is involved at all was because he said it once when Malik was live, but he used it many times before that
slim summit
NOT once
pearl stratus
Someone should call the police on this match though.
slim summit
that is fake news
marsh pumice
cause this top tier players should behave they represent a team and a game that everybody plays kids too
hidden osprey
It's not fake news
pearl stratus
Boston might need to report some domestic violence.
slim summit
yes it is lol
hidden osprey
He used it well before Malik was even hired
slim summit
that part is true
south pelican
smalll mousepads
dusk garden
all of your lives is fake news tbh
jovial jewel
i mean at this point pretty much everyone uses TriHard when a black person is on stream so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
slim summit
but he has used it more than 1 time while Malik was on
indigo barn
so uh i missed the first part
hidden osprey
so to say he used it when only Malik was on to be "racist" is a stretch
marsh pumice
im thinking on getting the razer overwatch speed one, is it any good?
echo vault
You're ignoring the fact that it is a salute and would be used when someone shows up regardless of color. Does he use it when anyone else shows up?
indigo barn
was that a quick take or what
hidden osprey
He uses it all the time
slim summit
no
indigo barn
but it was still fast
slim summit
so far it's only been during countdown timers, during Malik's short segments, and during matches
indigo barn
because it's only 4:18 and they're already done
slim summit
but i've only looked at all of March and a couple days in Feb
pearl stratus
Yeah, I think its 15 seconds slower than the DoomfistSeoul take.
Which was done in 1:23.
inner coyote
we should have a live discussion channel to seperate this stuff ><
pearl stratus
So ...1:40 for Point A and B.
slim summit
around 30-40% of the time he says it, Malik is there ... very approximately
echo vault
Wouldn't jan be the place to start?
echo vault
me thinks thou doth protest to much.
dusk garden
all of you people are talking like only xqc says trihard 7
slim summit
LOL more people spamming it doesn't make it ok
marsh pumice
xqc from all the people in the world should be the least to do it.
dusk garden
He's not the only streamer to use it
slim summit
lol
hidden osprey
I just feel like its PC going wild
slim summit
lol
indigo barn
what can you do against the best dps in the league
scarlet spear
a lot of streamer have been using it over years
neat wedge
Just because he uses it all the time doesnt make it alright either
pearl stratus
It is PC going wild.
scarlet spear
it was even a subemote for reckful a couple years ago
slim summit
lol
hidden osprey
That's the thing though, if an emote is unacceptable, you ban said emote from being used
marsh pumice
a lot of streamers are not in the OWL
slim summit
that's silly
neat wedge
It comes down to how he uses it and the intent on why he used it
slim summit
the emote isn't unacceptable
pearl stratus
But after getting in trouble for so much dumb stuff, gr33n is not exactly wrong. He should have been tiptoeing.
But its not in his personality.
hidden osprey
And he used it almost all the time, sometimes when it was a coincidence when Malik was on,
slim summit
coincidence?
marsh pumice
@pearl stratus exactly
hidden osprey
nah, he doesn't strike me as a racist
neat wedge
If you use that emote deliberately while Malik is on the screen, its obvious hes using it to point out hes black
come on now
hidden osprey
He even spoke to Malik about it
dusk garden
i think yall have brain problems man
slim summit
lol
dusk garden
im also talking to you easymac
neat wedge
which one is talking to you
pearl stratus
I don't think he even needs to take a break from streaming.
feral solar
this chat is just insane
neat wedge
the taimoue kid or the other kid
pearl stratus
He just needs to stop getting baited by his fans when he streams.
And not talk about OWL drama.
hidden osprey
neat wedge
bc ive been laughing at them both
hidden osprey
that's all the times he's used TriHard 7
dusk garden
your mom is talking to you, go to fucking bed @neat wedge
marsh pumice
@pearl stratus he doesn't even realize he gets baited
that's the sad part, i mean how dumb can you be
pearl stratus
Eh depends. I'd bet based on his generally self admitted diagnosis he's on the lower end of the spectrum, and probably doesn't think of social cues much.
marsh pumice
true
south pelican
I wanna see Bdosin vs Jehong
pearl stratus
That's the cause of a lot of foot in mouth disease.
marsh pumice
^^
dusk garden
alright can we let this trihard thing go and talk about the fucking game thats what most people are here for
pearl stratus
The game is watching a grown man fight a baby right now.
alpine saddle
well what made chat start spamming trihard anyways?
south pelican
what ive noticed is that with soldier alot of them dont care about the spread
pearl stratus
If it was a good game I'd be more about talking about it.
slim summit
bye
south pelican
cya bud
hidden osprey
spread isn't a problem when you're dealing so much damage
pearl stratus
A lot of them are also tracking better than most of us.
So the general 3-4 second rule doesn't always apply.
south pelican
true
pearl stratus
Soldier, in pro play, also isn't going to secure kills most of the time (if you get them awesome)
But you're softening things up for your Genji/Tracer.
So they can follow up.
echo vault
and dont forget filling monkey faces with bullets
pearl stratus
Unless you have Tac, of course.
When you have Tac you just break any bubbles and go to town
After you de-mech, typically.
I want boston to be really good, but I don't see it happening till season 2.
south pelican
tracertracertracer
alpine saddle
same I'm from boston but i have hard time rooting for them lol
woeful tinsel
The Twitch chat is horrendous right now. More than usual.
pearl stratus
I don't have a hard time rooting for them, I like them.
limber pine
TFW they never play comms from Korean teams
brisk roost
tracertracertracertracertracer
pearl stratus
But they're pretty much the only -non- pre-formed team.
pearl stratus
As far as I found none of them have played together.
marsh pumice
lol
brisk roost
genjigenjigenjigenjigenjigenji
scarlet spear
i would love to hear some korean coms, even if i understand nothing
marsh pumice
mhm
pearl stratus
It's probably the same thing. Just in korean.
brisk roost
Suprised there's no "monkeymonkeymonkeymonkey"
marsh pumice
xD
echo vault
lulululululululu
pearl stratus
According to Google Translate we'd hear:
chujeog peulogeulaem chujeog peulogeulaem chujeog peulogeulaem
Which is
Tracer tracer tracer.
woeful tinsel
I love how every match I'm in, people refer to Winston as a monkey even though he's clearly an ape.
sinful heron
He's not a Monkey
pearl stratus
Which is Monkey monkey monkey.
brisk roost
C'mon '
sinful heron
He's a scientist
woeful tinsel
lol true
shy wind
twitch chat is being such cancer atm
pearl stratus
Kazper is one of the faster blade builders in the league.
Eqo is probably the fastest atm.
pearl cedar
also I think MVP Profit there imo
pearl stratus
Then Fleta / Kazper.
woeful tinsel
Twitch chat is super offensive right now.
hidden osprey
what's so offensive about Twitch chat rn?
pearl cedar
Profit hook on striker saved it for them
sinful heron
Tbf twitch chat is kind of annoyed, since people who aren't even xQc fans think that the ban is a total joke
south pelican
Fleta and Profit duo
brisk roost
Why the f is Twitch chat still spaming TriHard 7?
warped axle
dvadvadvadvadvaDVADVADVADVADVA
sinful heron
I have to agree with them tbh
pearl cedar
Otherwise Striker would've popped off
pearl stratus
I mean its twitch chat.
sinful heron
4 match ban is a complete joke
marsh pumice
who cares for twitch chat
pearl stratus
Twitch chat is like Harry Potter without magic.
You just shove the kid under the stairs and forget about him.
shy wind
I mean when the dudes already been banned for multiple offenses previously.
echo vault
@brisk roost they are just saluting everyone to say hi
brisk roost
Lmao
alpine saddle
cause xqc got banned for 4 games for saying TriHard 7
sinful heron
I don't like xQc like I REALLY don't like him, but there's so much evidence that he wasn't intentionally offensive that it's completely unfair
woeful tinsel
The only people I see defending xqc are white people, no offense.
south pelican
Profits sensitviity is so high
hidden osprey
I don't see a black person on screen so I don't see how its racist / derogatory in anyway
sinful heron
Especially when you see some of the stuff Taimou has said
brisk roost
So is xQc suspended again?
hidden osprey
Taimou is lawless
woeful tinsel
Yeah
marsh pumice
yeh and someone is baiting and all the kids repeat it
brisk roost
RIP
shy wind
I think a 4 match ban would happen regardless of what he does just because of all the prior offenses.
hidden osprey
Does a 4 match ban mean one set?
marsh pumice
he should be perma banned.
hidden osprey
Or 4 sets
pearl stratus
Yeah thats the only flaw in most peoples arguments.
brisk roost
Dallas needs to terminate xQc now then
indigo barn
yo so wtf did xqc do this time
sinful heron
I get that, and if he'd done something bad, then I'd agree
pearl stratus
Offenses stack, no matter what.
sinful heron
But this "offence" is a joke
pearl cedar
He typed trihard 7 in chat once
sinful heron
He shouldn't resign and DF should do nothing to him
pearl cedar
i dont think he did it when malik was on stage either
woeful tinsel
As someone who is not white, I find xqc's actions incredibly offensive. But these kids never want to hear that side of the story.
echo vault
87 times
hidden osprey
When you find out how the League handled it too, it's pretty sad
pearl stratus
Honestly if he wants to resign I'm sure Dallas would let him.
hidden osprey
apparently they told Fuel to bench him
sinful heron
Like I really don't like the guy, but holy shit this is massively bullshit from OWL
hidden osprey
but then said he could play, so he played without scrimming
alpine saddle
xqc should just stick to streaming his personality will get him banned all the time
sinful heron
But he's done nothing wrong
warped axle
Xqc is walking drama
pearl stratus
We already talked about it really.
shy wind
I mean twitch isn't exactly a safe place atm
pearl stratus
He should stream without talking about OWL.
shy wind
if OWL won't get you TOS will
sinful heron
Like seriously people look at what he said
pearl stratus
But his fans bait him into talking about the drama so much.
shy wind
sinful heron
It's NOTHING
pearl stratus
And then he causes more drama by talking about the drama.
indigo barn
wait so now there's a racist emote
neat wedge
When you're a representative of OWL and Blizzard Activision, I'm pretty sure using an emote in such a manner publically can be considered "wrong"...
hidden osprey
Twitch is becoming the new YouTube
woeful tinsel
and unprofessional
pearl stratus
I mean there's also the Fate "retard" bubbles things, etc. Which I'm guilty of still calling people retard, but I don't do it at work.
hidden osprey
gotta keep those advertisers happy
neat wedge
Unprofessional also yep
sinful heron
Also I think someone needs to bring the casters into line, since they are JUST as bad as some of the players if not worse
south pelican
ofc profit
neat wedge
How are the casters worse?
pearl stratus
The casters are cringy, I won't disagree with that.
Reinforce is really bad on his own twitter.
marsh pumice
@pearl stratus yep and that's his problem he doesn't realize that people is not there to watch him play most of the time, people is there to laugh and to get drama
shy wind
I mean twitch is worse than yt atm
hidden osprey
Monte is no better
shy wind
but then again twitch was becoming cancer itself so it neeeded SOME rules
sinful heron
They bury the players all the time when casting, and are no better on their twitters
And one of them called xQc "a cancer" on an official video
shy wind
I mean Monte has been like this since his league of legend days
so this is nothing new for me
pearl cedar
They understand their audience
shy wind
lmao
hidden osprey
and the sad part is xqc laughed that off
sinful heron
That doesn't make it right
hidden osprey
anyway, does it mean a 4 match ban or a 4 match stage ban?
sinful heron
You can't hold the players to one standard and the casters to another
pearl cedar
4 games
hidden osprey
so he can't play one set of four games, or he can't play 4 sets?
pearl cedar
so 2 weeks i think
pearl stratus
@marsh pumice His fans also pull apart his discord and post it everywhere too.
sinful heron
Also one of the offences was "mitigated" because of the actions a player took after he did it, fair enough good job
marsh pumice
@pearl stratus yes true
shy wind
nothing works for him
pearl stratus
When his fans try to help its teh worst.
Because they post so much stuff no one needed to know.
And it makes it worse every time.
shy wind
and he with some of his actions he puts himself on this pedestal.
sinful heron
xQc went to the guy who he "offended" and made sure it was ok, then went to the guy IN THE EMOTE and said is this ok and TriHex said it was fine, but apparently that's not enough to mitigate things
shy wind
it's just like "pick one" and get a fine
humble moth
ayyyy
pearl stratus
"HE SAID HE'S GOING TO QUIT IF HE GETS BANNED AGAIN. HERES THE SCREENSHOT FROM TWITTER"
hidden osprey
either way, I don't think Fuel are gonna be any worse/better without him
marsh pumice
i don't think they are really fans if they were fans they would care for him but they don't they want to trash him and he goes along
hidden osprey
considering how bad they look already
sinful heron
My point is you have to be consistent otherwise, I don't like xQc but he does not deserve this at all.
pearl stratus
"HE SAID HE WAS LYING WHEN HE SAID GOOD JOB AND THINGS PHILLY IS GARBAGE. HERES THE DISCORD SCREENSHOT."
shy wind
Fuel has alot of internal problems
pearl stratus
So the fans end up getting him into EVEN more trouble.
shy wind
xqc is just 1/4
pearl stratus
It's kind of funny, and sad.
hidden osprey
yup, seems like there's severe management problems at the Fuel
pearl stratus
Their management is at odds, from everything people can tell.
sinful heron
If fuel want shot of him then that's fuel's decision I just don't think it's fair to punish him for this
hidden osprey
the fact that they still don't have a set starting roster in stage 2 is unbelievable
pearl stratus
Kyky didn't want to pick up rascal/akm, Haskal (or whoever) overrode it.
marsh pumice
yeh fun and sad, i hate the guy for being such a bad example for the game and com
shy wind
compared to most teams which can adjust or have a certain style
hidden osprey
hastr0
hidden osprey
rumours are hastr0 wants aKm as a starter for marketing purposes
shy wind
I get it, xqc is a dedicated player but his actions bring such cancer, and it seems like he shrugs it off and does more shiet which can get him called out.
pearl stratus
That rumor spreads out of the original rumor that AKM would only sign to a team in which he'd be a starter.
Which could explain why it took him so long to get into OWL.
scarlet spear
aKm also had a huge buyout from the rogue roster lets not forget about that
echo vault
He doesn't have the hero pool to start 😦
scarlet spear
and they were pretty much signed to rogue till every other team was already formed
woeful tinsel
If xqc quits, it's just saying that he can't control himself as a public figure. He doesn't need the overwatch league anyway. Sucks for his fans I guess.
sinful heron
To me it seems as though xQc went a little too hard into his own twitch persona, made a mistake, and has since tried to be a better person both on stream and off
marsh pumice
yeh instead of getting of social media and living the awesome life of a pro player he is a drama queen that gets banned week in week out
shy wind
I mean
people say he doesn't need owl
but twitch and youtube are in such itchy situations atm
sinful heron
And now OWL have jumped on him for a non-problem
woeful tinsel
xqc is the kanye west of overwatch
pearl cedar
itchy situations, wut m8?
pearl stratus
He makes enough off his subs to be fine without OWL. The problem is as time goes on he won't self sustain if OWL continues in popularity.
drowsy fulcrum
man twitch chat sure are funny right now
marsh pumice
hahahahahah kanye west
pearl cedar
as long as he's not retarded on twitch he's fine
woeful tinsel
talented, but can't control what he says
pearl cedar
and he's been fine on twitch
echo vault
r word, banned for stage 3
hidden osprey
monkaS
marsh pumice
i mean maybe xqc is getting sponsored to be a drama queen
pearl cedar
also, i think his ban is kinda unnecessary this time
humble moth
why is everyone so gay when it comes to peoples attitudes? it should be whether their good or not
pearl stratus
The old "No publicity is bad publicity" moniker?
pearl cedar
but if he used it during malik being on stream then its a rip
hidden osprey
oh sorry, it's a pepe emote and that's highly politically incorrect, you will now be banned
marsh pumice
of course
humble moth
so many snowflakes in competitive gaming nowadays
drowsy fulcrum
what xQc did could be seen as offensive and/or racist, just like DanSexy from GDQ
woeful tinsel
his drama probably helps sell fuel skins and merchandise for sure.
drowsy fulcrum
they do not want OWL to die because of one player doing something that could be seen as offensive
doesn't matter if you or I think it is
pearl stratus
It's more who they want viewing. They don't care about the people who are going to be watching it no matter what. They care about the people who don't really know e-sports who would be upset by this stuff.
Because thats the untapped market.
drowsy fulcrum
OWL is being pushed as a sport, not as a game
echo vault
fuel skins need all the help they can get for people to buy such ugly monstrosities
humble moth
if you watch OWL you don't see anything the player is doing
drowsy fulcrum
you'd get punished for it in a sport even if it's not offfensive to the majority of people
humble moth
or even hear them
drowsy fulcrum
@humble moth if you tweet something offensiev you get fined and banned in real sport
the same should be in OWL
pearl stratus
Just remember in the NBA you can get fined for not showing up in a suit to certain things.
echo vault
I'm just here so I dont get fined
south pelican
I have Seoul Widow for Fleta, New York McCree for Pine and London Tracer for Profit
pearl stratus
And that kind of control over how people act and dress increased their viewership from low to broken record viewership.
marsh pumice
exactly that and you can't be a pro at anything and behave like a noob
humble moth
NBA players make millions a year, they should have no problem following stupid rules
pearl stratus
It seems stupid that it should matter, but it does.
marsh pumice
OWN IT!
pearl stratus
What do you think will happen to these player salaries as time goes on?
whole mulch
Isn't Birdring a better tracer than profit
hidden osprey
oh nice, I got 10 tokens last night 👀
pearl stratus
C'mon. Think farther ahead than thirteen seconds.
humble moth
I would wear a dinosaur suit everyday if someone paid me 1 million a year
south pelican
I presonally think Profits the best play on the OWL
pearl stratus
You set the expectations now, not after you're paying them too much.
drowsy fulcrum
if you think that what xQc wasn't did shouldn't have been punished, you're just straight wrong. He did something that could have been seen as offensive by the vast majority of people. What Blizzard did was better than what other companies, such as GDQ did, as they punished the player and not got the emote removed from Twitch
pearl stratus
There's already people in OWL breaking a quarter million.
hidden osprey
Nah, jjonak best player
marsh pumice
@eternal quiversol#5856 yeh i love him too
drowsy fulcrum
you want OWL to succeed, so people who break the rules this often and this early on deserve heavy punishments
pearl stratus
If a quarter million a year doesn't convince you to keep your mouth shut and just nod and smile.
I don't know what to tell you.
drowsy fulcrum
all xQc needed to do for that phat paycheck was not be offensive and shut up occasionally
instead he spammed something that was seen as racist and directly insulted a gay guy
humble moth
he makes way more streaming than from OWL
sinful heron
If you HONESTLY think saying "TriHard 7" as a greeting for MONTHS to EVERYONE is offensive then you are beyond hope.
pearl stratus
His personality, oddly enough, if focused properly is PERFECT for the sport.
south pelican
apparently Los Angeles Valiant is higher than London on the stnadings list
drowsy fulcrum
@sinful heron using it occasionally =/= usnig it every time a black person appears on stream
humble moth
all OWL does is get him more subs
hidden osprey
He used it all the time though
marsh pumice
sinful heron
I've seen so many chat logs showing him spamming it at random times for months.
brisk roost
C'mon lets go Boston
hidden osprey
I dunno, I just think the emote thing is all a bit stupid
molten skiff
is today the rematch of that day when both NYXL and London lost in stage 1?
south pelican
Next ill probably get Philadelphia Genji for sdb
drowsy fulcrum
people complained and had issue with it, so blizzard had to follow up or risk OWL being destroyed.
It was the smart move
hidden osprey
I mean he deserves being punished for making the other comments but the emote thing makes no fucking ense
molten skiff
i think they are going against the same teams they lost to
dusky tinsel
Even if it's just an unfortunate coincidence, he's done absolutely nothing to help his cause
pearl stratus
It still comes down to how his fans attached to it.
In my book.
Which sucks to blame him for.
drowsy fulcrum
xQc is the fortnite streamer of competitive overwatch
he swears, screams and gets angry
people like that
unfortunately he's also very good
marsh pumice
yep but he shouldn't be in the OWL then if he wants to do that
drowsy fulcrum
exactly
neat wedge
Theres a HUGE difference between spontaneously using your favourite emote whenever and then using that exact same emote in a racial manner later on. Even if he did use it all the time doesn't take away from the fact that in that 1 instance there was a racial undertone to its use.
whole mulch
Hopefully he quits or gets terminated soon
pearl stratus
He's ridiculously good, that's the worst part.
drowsy fulcrum
if he wants to remain in the OWL he should just shut up
if he wants to get kicked from the league he should continue doing what he's doing
pearl stratus
He doesn't need to shut up, entirely.
dusky tinsel
I hope he gets fired, there's no way OWL can be happy with him
pearl stratus
The personality he has could be a huge boon.
hidden osprey
are you legit for real?
neat wedge
@pearl stratus I dont think hes that good. He couldnt put an Orisa barrier on the edge of a cliff without missing.
pearl stratus
If he used it positively.
woeful tinsel
The way it was used had racial undertones man.
echo vault
Logic is not strong with him
neat wedge
@fair walrus SAME
whole mulch
I don't think he was intentionally being racist
hidden osprey
How can you say someone's using it with the intent of being racist if they're using it all the time?
drowsy fulcrum
@hidden osprey he repeatedly used it every time a black person appeared on stream, he didn't "spam" it at any other time
hidden osprey
that legitimately makes no sense
whole mulch
it was just perceived that way
drowsy fulcrum
he used it but nowhere near as much
hidden osprey
no, he used it ALL the time
shy wind
yikes
woeful tinsel
Most people are not intentionally racist.
shy wind
the trans force
hidden osprey
the logs even show that
humble moth
its because people look for stupid things like that
pearl stratus
Profit has such wacky tire routes.
sinful heron
This is my thing: if you want him banned that's all good, and that's you. But want him banned for the right reasons not for spamming an emote HUNDREDS of times for months and sending it once at a time that some special snowflakes think it might be offensive.
drowsy fulcrum
dude I'm on your side here, I think he was overpunished for this
hidden osprey
he used it before Malik was even hired
pearl stratus
Every time he ults I find a new route.
woeful tinsel
Doesn't mean their actions aren't messed up.
drowsy fulcrum
but I'm defending Blizzard's choice
neat wedge
It does make sense, you can use it all the time but then change the intent behind using it each and every time you use it
drowsy fulcrum
I want OWL to survive
woeful tinsel
I don't think xqc is racist.
drowsy fulcrum
and for OWL to survive they need to crack down on everything that could have issues with the wider public
pearl stratus
They need to be a lot more transparent with their whys and hows though.
dusky tinsel
OK, ignoring whether TriHard7 is racist, let's look at him opening insulting the casting - how is that ever going to look good for him?
pearl stratus
Because right now it looks like a group of really confused people handing out penalties.
woeful tinsel
But if you want OWL to open up to people other than young white males, this kinda stuff needs to stop.
sinful heron
God if everyone banned everything that people thought would be offensive there'd be nothing on TV.
scarlet spear
yeah they have to put out a proper rulebook and rules they have to stick to
drowsy fulcrum
what about him openly insulting the players and acting like a child on his stream
xQc deserves more than he's gotten
shy wind
Yeah people think the only factor was the trihard 7 lmao
molten skiff
xqc what did he do
young sonnet
how about we just turn the chat off and watch the thing that matters instead. I dunno. Like the match? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
sinful heron
That's what he's banned for
pearl stratus
The tri-hard7 is the most visual thing, that's why.
molten skiff
he suspended again?
neat wedge
@drowsy fulcrum sing it sister
dusky tinsel
yep
pearl stratus
No Mr. G, he also shit talked casters, players, and a bunch of others.
They.. did say other things.
woeful tinsel
Yeah
pearl stratus
Everyone just stopped reading after the emote part.
hidden osprey
They weren't specifically clear about those things though, which is why everyone is latching onto the emote thing
drowsy fulcrum
@humble moth this isn't gaming anymore, it's a sport
the analyists can shittalk the players
neat wedge
The thing is, for all we know, they MAY HAVE punished the casters just we dont know about it.
drowsy fulcrum
the players can't insult others over their sexual orientation
humble moth
shit talking happens in sports even more
sinful heron
Hang on, lemme go read the things again
pearl stratus
@hidden osprey Because part of the problem is its his own fans who outed him.
marsh pumice
every "pro" person on tv, movies, radio that does racist, xeno stuff is punished and we see that everyday games are not out.
woeful tinsel
He was disparaging members involved with the organization in public, that's totally unprofessional. He should just do it in a private setting at least lol.
pearl stratus
It's his passive twitter posts and stuff.
dusky tinsel
leggo London
pearl stratus
And then he goes into his discord.
And talks about the posts.
And his fans leak it.
marsh pumice
xD
pearl stratus
Because they're all the IQ of a turnip.
brisk roost
Aw c'mon
neat wedge
Wrong
brisk roost
Boston needs to reverse sweep
indigo barn
boston what you do man
whole mulch
"Overwatch League also cited xQc's "disparaging language" used against both casters and players on social media and on stream for his suspension and fine. XQc called the Overwatch League's casting "cancer" earlier in March."
neat wedge
Them leaking it makes them smart, because it makes people like me happy
drowsy fulcrum
he's like Leffen, he's a good fucking player but he's just a huge cunt. The moment someone bothers to do an Evidence.Zip on him he's gonna be boned
hidden osprey
I mean if we wanted to talk about unprofessionalism, we could point out Monte too here
neat wedge
Its HIM whos dumb
marsh pumice
it's kinda fun @pearl stratus
dusky tinsel
Thanks @whole mulch
molten skiff
what did xqc do
hidden osprey
uhh
pearl stratus
No one here disagrees that the casters need ot be held to the same standard though
hidden osprey
did anyone just hear the observers talking there?
pearl stratus
I personally don't.
dusky tinsel
"Overwatch League also cited xQc's "disparaging language" used against both casters and players on social media and on stream for his suspension and fine. XQc called the Overwatch League's casting "cancer" earlier in March."
sinful heron
Got it
molten skiff
did xqc pull xqc
pearl stratus
The casters are pretty horrible, and generally one sided.
whole mulch
Yes Geo
pearl stratus
Reinforce is dumb as rocks.
molten skiff
did xqc be himself
whole mulch
Reinforce shouldn't be a caster imo
hidden osprey
Reinforce has said the "r" word before too
humble moth
retard?
scarlet spear
reinforce isnt a caster
neat wedge
Reinforce isnt the smartest but hes pretty hot
pearl stratus
Reinforce spends 90% of his time reminding people he used to be mediocre at the game.
slim summit
deflect
whole mulch
What is he
uncut moon
reinforce is an analyst
slim summit
genji mains ITC
uncut moon
not a caster
echo vault
He called himself retarded just the other day on the desk
drowsy fulcrum
i'd fuck rein
pearl stratus
He's an analyst.
drowsy fulcrum
both of them
humble moth
what is the r word?
sinful heron
@pearl stratus you are 100% right, didn't read the ban statement hard enough
uncut moon
the casters are people like X and uber
humble moth
dont be gay about it
neat wedge
@pearl stratus LOOOOOOOOL
uncut moon
semmler and hex
hidden osprey
retard
humble moth
ok
hidden osprey
DONT BAN ME PLEASE
pearl stratus
No worries, its easy to latch onto the obvious parts of it.
hidden osprey
PLEASE DONT BAN PLEASE
whole mulch
Oh right why did I call him a caster
drowsy fulcrum
@humble moth out of interest, are you an xQc fan?
humble moth
@drowsy fulcrum never heard of him before OWL
molten skiff
man xqc
brisk roost
Same here
pearl stratus
@whole mulch I use it as the overarching term for all of them.
molten skiff
never liked that dude
whole mulch
Btw Reinforce says some pretty negative things in his comp games if it means anything
south pelican
ban hammer
brisk roost
I never liked xQc either
hidden osprey
wasn't Mr X pretty toxic in his COD days?
pearl stratus
Reinforce should be off the desk, most people admit that.
brisk roost
Honestly if he just gonna act like this then he shouldn't have joined OWL
neat wedge
Like I said earlier, the casters may have been punished but behind the scenes, we only know about these punishments because its players and official statements get released to the public.
pearl stratus
That'd be flat out stupid Adam.
drowsy fulcrum
xQc could use his fame for good shit, instead he uses it to shit-talk everyone and undermine the entire OWL
south pelican
I thought Fl0w3r was gonna be in Spitfire but hes actually in NYXL??
humble moth
@drowsy fulcrum I dont pay attention to streamers, i think its pretty dumb. I'd rather be playing the game than watching someone. And the people that sub are even worse
neat wedge
Possibly but it could be true
pearl stratus
If you want it to be affective you make it as public as the players.
shy wind
True there's prob alot of punishment behind the scenes
hidden osprey
The casters are as much of a public figure as the players are
pearl stratus
Since they've made coaching punishment public too.
scarlet spear
i cant see the casters being punished at all
shy wind
there are in sports.
hidden osprey
They should be held similarly accountable
marsh pumice
@drowsy fulcrum +1
molten skiff
Flower is LW Blue
neat wedge
@south pelican yeah hes NYXL
brisk roost
Why would the casters be punished? lol
pearl stratus
With how much the casters get called out on reddit too, it would have been posted to appease people.
whole mulch
NYXL is LW Blue
young sonnet
🍿
uncut moon
at the end of the day xQc is just one of many twitch streamers with that exact language and toxicity, he just hasn't transitioned in to acting professional, and probably does not have the capability to act professional and take responsibility for his actions
humble moth
@drowsy fulcrum Im becoming a fan of him just because his attitude though
whole mulch
Flower is from LW Blue
molten skiff
Whoru going Fusion is weird
uncut moon
and @brisk roost i think he means the analyst that tweeted the word retard
Reinforce tweeted the word retard
drowsy fulcrum
@scarlet spear I used to be a mior caster for Smite, believe me there's a lot of shit that goes along behind scenes
pearl stratus
He also said it on air.
uncut moon
which is what xQc was on about
echo vault
Didn't he also call himself and another tank retarded on the broadcast?
hidden osprey
I like Reinforce though, probably has the most game knowledge IMO
pearl stratus
Yep.
brisk roost
Ohh ok
shy wind
I used to like XQC but he doesn't know how to behave and entertain a stream, yet be professional.
pearl stratus
His facial expression was perfect.
tall sierra
Hello hello
hidden osprey
hihi
pearl stratus
"We're both a little retarded." OH SHIT INTENSIFIES
whole mulch
You can't say retarded on live television right?
tall sierra
Watching the game on twitch on the phone lol
pearl stratus
Not supposed to.
shy wind
Like XQC likes to say stuff and then be like "haha jk" like bruh.
whole mulch
he probably did get a warning for that
humble moth
you can but people get butthurt
drowsy fulcrum
xQc is literally the equivalent of any of those fortnite youtubers that just scream, swear and say funnies, except he plays high level overwatch. Same fanbase of children that think that's cool, mind
humble moth
over a word
neat wedge
Out of interest, has anyone here Cheered in OWL's stream and unlocked that Junkrat skin?
brisk roost
Someone from the SF shock said the f word
uncut moon
with the kind of audience that e-Sports have I don't know why they care so much about swearing and stuff on the league
shy wind
I'm poor so I can't lul
pearl stratus
No one has the right to determine what makes someone else upset, at the end of the day.
south pelican
why dont some team run anti dive
whole mulch
I haven't
drowsy fulcrum
@uncut moon because OWL are pushing itself as a sport, not an esport
whole mulch
Antidive doesn't work as well as it should
hidden osprey
shame it'll never work that way
whole mulch
it depends on the map
pearl stratus
And honestly if you do think that, you'll most likely end up failing in life.
humble moth
oh god
whole mulch
best dive counter is still dive
marsh pumice
esport/sport it's the same
drowsy fulcrum
CS does the same, some major tournaments get televised in the UK and the casters are completely chill
pearl stratus
Because you'll always get yourself in trouble.
I fucked myself over till I was 24 because I didn't have a verbal filter.
It happens.
hidden osprey
BANNED
brisk roost
Wait why would OWL push themselves as an actual sport?
drowsy fulcrum
people should realise that they can't step over the line, OWL is the forefront of a new medium and it needs to be spotless
hidden osprey
SWEARING
shy wind
esports generally allows for more, leniency, when it comes to situations
humble moth
lol
marsh pumice
if you are on the public eye not matter what you do you should be an example, even if it's playing tetris.
brisk roost
They belong to the esports category lol
shy wind
Take League Of Legends for example, there's literal memes of casters cussing/.
pearl stratus
But its also hard to remember that most people who watch OWL are basically children.
brisk roost
Exactly
whole mulch
OWL is the first engineered esport
drowsy fulcrum
@brisk roost well, less of a "sport" I suppose, but they're pushing it as not just for nerds
they're pushing it as mainstream
brisk roost
League of Legends is full of toxic kids tbh
sacred iris
^
woeful tinsel
Owl's goal is to move into the mainstream for sure.
whole mulch
their intent is to push it as a sport
drowsy fulcrum
and to be mainstream they need to be spit spot
woeful tinsel
Right
pearl stratus
Their goal is to get the family at home watching as well as the cheetohs nerds.
sinful heron
Blizzard has every right to push OWL as far as they can it's a fantastic product and can go very far
brisk roost
I guess
pearl stratus
They need to break into markets that they haven't yet.
Because you'll never be successful if you stay where you're safe.
Gamers are fickle enough as is.
pearl stratus
Remember when PubG was going to be the next big thing?
whole mulch
Btw back to Reinforce, why is he an analyst
drowsy fulcrum
this season of OWL is essentially a beta
whole mulch
he has such little experience
pearl stratus
Then it went to phhhhhhhhhhbbbbbt.
drowsy fulcrum
if it goes well, major services will pick it up
marsh pumice
this to me empowers OWL cause people takes it serious and not like a joke you can do whatever
shy wind
PubG only got popularized because of streamers
compared to Fortnite which is straight up popular
uncut moon
pubg is such a one dimensional game, and you already have CS:GO
slim summit
sheeeit i aint get any tokens yet
drowsy fulcrum
the BBC in the UK already show a small esports tournament, OWL season 2 could very well be picked up
humble moth
it was EA and they tried to make it an esport xD
scarlet spear
people wanted pubg to be the big thing, the game is just not made out for it to be
slim summit
someone post a sad frog meme since i won't buy nitro
drowsy fulcrum
but ONLY if they keep it perfect
marsh pumice
pubg got popularized cause of it's market, streamers helped
sinful heron
I PuBG is in such a bad state and the devs show 0 interest in fixing it
drowsy fulcrum
xQc was not keeping it that way
sinful heron
They've made their money and don't care anymore
uncut moon
^
brisk roost
Pretty sure once Black Ops 4 comes out the Fortnite hype will go down
woeful tinsel
They're beholden to sponsors too. I'm sure Sour Patch Kids and Toyota would pull out if things got out of hand.
hidden osprey
Isn't botting still a problem in PUBG?
sinful heron
Whereas Fortnite seems to actually have devs who care behind it, and people appreciate that
drowsy fulcrum
@sinful heron just like every other game that Playerunknown made
uncut moon
Fortnite on the other hand, thought it's not my style of game, is going to be really successful
marsh pumice
pubg is a skin/crates market
uncut moon
Epic games are brilliant
drowsy fulcrum
people didn't realise he's the main dev from H1Z1
molten skiff
pubg is classic korean mmo
brisk roost
Right now PUBG is still having it's problems
pearl stratus
Fortnite got -realllllly- close to failing though.
hidden osprey
Brendan Green
shy wind
Fortenite is kinda like ow, it has actual depth compared to most basic shooters
pearl stratus
That initial launch was -rough-
brisk roost
The game still stutters on mid end hardwares
uncut moon
Fortnite has ruined the chances of Unreal Tounament 4 being finished though
whole mulch
Fortnite is run by a much larger company.
uncut moon
which kind of upsets me
brisk roost
Even for consoles it's not optimized well
pearl stratus
I'm a little surprised they actually made it.
shy wind
Epic Games
brisk roost
And true
sinful heron
@drowsy fulcrum I did not know that, that makes heaps of sense though
whole mulch
It's much more optimized than PUBG, PUBG has optimization issues
brisk roost
Epic Games is famous
molten skiff
i wouldnt say blue hole is small
drowsy fulcrum
Epic Games are amazing and Fortnite is proof of that, it's a fantastic product and it will go far
woeful wolf
TriHard 7
molten skiff
but it's certainly not known outside of korea
woeful wolf
ok bye
hidden osprey
scarlet spear
fortnite is also made by epic so they use their own really well made engine, obvious its going to be running a lot smoother than pubg
sinful heron
PuBG has hacker problems, server problems, balance problems, and optimization problems.
pearl stratus
Man I feel like none of you guys actually played Fortnite at launch.
Cause that thing was just garbage.
marsh pumice
pubg can't even be stable in the end of the match with 2 players only, still doesn't give you 17hz at least, fornite at least gives you 20hz constant
molten skiff
what's triehard 7
brisk roost
I noticed that the Fortnite devs also made the Gears of War series.
humble moth
this fat guy sucks
pearl stratus
They did fix it though, lol
whole mulch
PUBG uses the same engine as fortnite
scarlet spear
it was fine endoken
pearl stratus
So did I.
scarlet spear
till the hacking started
brisk roost
The thing is
uncut moon
pubg uses Unreal Engine 4?
scarlet spear
and that was fixed fast
marsh pumice
yes both are unreal engine
whole mulch
yes
pearl stratus
Yeah, it was no cost to come back alater when things were fixed.
brisk roost
Unreal Engine 4 can be heavily customized. It can either be cartoony or very realistic looking
whole mulch
both use unreal
sinful heron
Shows how badly PuBG is coded
pearl stratus
You know what other game isn't garbage now, though its WAY too late?
uncut moon
yeah i know how Unreal Engine works
drowsy fulcrum
I mean lots of things use UE4
shy wind
It's just when battle royale got popular, fortnite and PubG we're 2 biggest competitors.
pearl stratus
For Honor finally got their head out of their asses.
sinful heron
If it's in UE4 and runs like actual arse
neat wedge
is any1 else cringing at the "saiyan" references right now
drowsy fulcrum
Tekken and Street Fighter 5 both use it