esports-discussion

[frozen yew]

[boreal mango]

lmao can you imagine

[pearl stratus]

Announcers took way too much time pointing out it was a bench roster for Seoul.

Dick move.

[boreal mango]

DAE shanghai bad team

[pearl stratus]

Like anyone can see that its a bench roster team, just let it be.

[boreal mango]

yeah it's normal in pro sports, it's not worth going over so much

[tight vault]

yall shanghai should win cause they have the best skins

[boreal mango]

IDK man seoul lookin fresh in the black & gold

wish blizz would let us buy away skins tho

[quasi stump]

yeah those london away skins are 🔥

[tight vault]

😦

[spring lintel]

Dragon’s comp is LUL

[tight vault]

4-0

[verbal roost]

so fast

[pearl stratus]

Best they can do, they only have one dps since Diya had to go home for a family emergency.

It being two weeks makes me think its a funeral.

[tight vault]

this is rigged

[grizzled trout]

I'm a Seoul fan but I hope they win at least one map because of all they been through

[torpid charm]

HEY A HOLD

[ruby pendant]

lol nice

[boreal mango]

Eh, I like the players but the company behind Shanghai sounds sketchy as fuck

[tight vault]

[torpid charm]

it is sketchy

[pearl stratus]

It wasn't even the company, the company gave way too much leeway to U4.

[errant lodge]

The company behind them?

[pearl stratus]

Who they just fired.

[uncut moon]

what

is this

fight

[pearl stratus]

They basically hired him and assumed he'd put together a good team.

[uncut moon]

lol

[pearl stratus]

And he put together his team

Which was not the right plan.

[errant lodge]

Oh

[hidden osprey]

Shanghai actually holding well so far

wow

[tight vault]

3-1

[boreal mango]

oh they FIRED the coach?

[pearl stratus]

Yeah.

They fired U4.

[faint phoenix]

no wonder its the Moira meatball

[boreal mango]

shiiiit that's awesome news then

[errant lodge]

Shanghai is doing well so far

[pearl stratus]

U4 has, apparently, been hated in China for a long time.

[verbal roost]

who did they hire?

[pearl stratus]

Unknown atm.

[boreal mango]

hopefully they improve from here on

[errant lodge]

Yes

[tight vault]

shanghai is in china

right

[torpid charm]

they're still looking for someone

[pearl stratus]

Assistant coach is coaching for the moment.

[errant lodge]

I feel kinda bad for them

[scarlet spear]

RUI is coming to LA for SHD now

[uncut moon]

LOL

[slim summit]

oops

[uncut moon]

xushu

[scarlet spear]

he used to be the coach for MY, guess he'd step into u4s role

[errant lodge]

Lmao rip

[pearl stratus]

I feel bad for them because they're a bunch of kids who were asked "Hey you wanna play OW?"

So of course they said yes, lol

[spring lintel]

How did they not use coalescence to keep the genji alive?!

[errant lodge]

Yea

Also idk

[verbal roost]

don't feel bad for them

[errant lodge]

He got destroyed

There we go Seoul

[tight vault]

good hold suprisingly

[verbal roost]

i think anyone in their shoes is still having fun sometimes

[forest wharf]

Rip

[pearl stratus]

They're not having any fun right now.

[verbal roost]

it's not that bad

[pearl stratus]

You can tell from Fivekings and Diya on twittter.

[boreal mango]

hopefully means the top chinese players get a chance at OWL then, apparently some of their top players were ignored so they quit Pro OW

[pearl stratus]

They're miserable as shit, lol

[verbal roost]

this isn't prison

haha

[hidden osprey]

$50k salary with benefits

[spring lintel]

Isnt their other dps an off tank?

[hidden osprey]

to play vidya games

[short vault]

how long must this go on

[pearl stratus]

Diya is a hit scan, he just plays Zarya well.

[errant lodge]

Pretty crazy

[pearl stratus]

Which a lot of hit scan dps can.

[short vault]

let them win

[spring lintel]

I mean the other one

Xusushshs

[scarlet spear]

yes

[boreal mango]

Yeah but how do you stay motivated to keep going out and trying to sweat games and just get stomped every time, and everything you read online is how you're garbage lol

[scarlet spear]

diya is in china due to personal reasons

[pearl stratus]

Yeah Xushu is mostly a tank.

[open bolt]

dragons take my energy 🙏🏽

[verbal roost]

i doubt they read most of it

[spring lintel]

They don’t have a freaking dps sub?!

Wtf

[frozen yew]

Dragons Take my visa

[pearl stratus]

Most teams don't, remember that.

[spring lintel]

There are so many chinese talent too

[pearl stratus]

Florida still only has 6 people.

[spring lintel]

Leave and elieen

[pearl stratus]

Since visas.

[scarlet spear]

both arent 18 yet

[spring lintel]

That sucks

[frozen yew]

They are getting factfiction and awesomeguy if im not wrong

[quasi stump]

let's goooo

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, Eileen is 17.

[uncut moon]

LETS GO SHANGHAi

[scarlet spear]

florida is getting sayaplayer and awesomeguy

[tight vault]

what the

[boreal mango]

why can't Diya play?

[errant lodge]

Oh let’s go Shanghai

[ruby pendant]

Dragons making it look easy!!

[errant lodge]

Omg

[spring lintel]

Altering tracking IS LUL

[quasi stump]

oh they still capped

[spring lintel]

OMG

[uncut moon]

how did they capture

[verbal roost]

yay a point

[uncut moon]

point A

[errant lodge]

Damn

[spring lintel]

C9

[hidden osprey]

back capped

[uncut moon]

what?

[boreal mango]

lmao that bait

[pearl stratus]

t's hard to play from China Marron 😛

[frozen yew]

Wooo

LOL

[errant lodge]

Holy cow

[frozen yew]

They took it

C9

[vagrant jacinth]

How's the match?

[pearl stratus]

Diya had to go home for personal reasons, he'll be gone for two weeks.

[spring lintel]

That was so lucky

[boreal mango]

ah fair enough

[frozen yew]

Sadly

[pearl stratus]

Two weeks to me screams funeral, but I hope its something less major.

[frozen yew]

I hope it is all good with him

[quasi stump]

UNDEAD

[spring lintel]

Already lost altering lul

[rustic perch]

lost altering*

[boreal mango]

See watching this, it's clear they're not bad players (relative to OWL) they're just not as tight as a team

[molten skiff]

xepher why you even play

[paper crag]

would you guys say that Seoul is kind of running their "B squad?"

[rustic perch]

they are

[boreal mango]

yeah

[verbal roost]

it is

[paper crag]

no RJH, no Fleta, no Zunba, etc

[pearl stratus]

Most teams say they have really good plans and stuff.

[boreal mango]

Except tobi I guess

[pearl stratus]

They just don't execute the plans.

[spring lintel]

@boreal mango some of them are bad

[rustic perch]

well they dont have that much support choices

[pearl stratus]

MG and Freefeel are legitimately bad.

[rustic perch]

their only real "support mains" are jehong and tobi

[spring lintel]

MG for sure

[pearl stratus]

But the rest aren't like.. the worst.

[frozen yew]

Shanghai doesnt know how to run from a fight

[rustic perch]

gido is mostly dps

[tight vault]

aimbot lul

[vagrant jacinth]

How's the match? As one sided as expected?

[frozen yew]

You see the soundbarrier

[pearl stratus]

Roshan looks worse than he is - because he doesn't get the support from MG that a Monkey needs.

[frozen yew]

You run

[cursive talon]

them defensive ults are building slow af

shangai

[paper crag]

anyone know when geguri will get some playtime? is ineligible to play this stage or something, or is SHD just not running her when they are technically able to?

[rustic perch]

1-2 weeks according to soe

[boreal mango]

I can't see her getting played in stage 2

[spring lintel]

Altering LUL

[boreal mango]

like has she even had a chance to practice with the team?

[rustic perch]

soe said last week that their ETA is in second half of stage 2

[spring lintel]

Could be online who knows

[rustic perch]

but still, that's just what soe said

[pearl stratus]

@paper crag If they're not in the US already, everyone is stuck with Visas.

[slim summit]

goodbye tobi

it's been nice

[spring lintel]

Not even a tick

[boreal mango]

yeah ETA just to arrive in the USA

[quasi stump]

Geguri isn't even in the US

[pearl stratus]

You don't get to avoid bureacracy lol

[frozen yew]

Its the same problem that florida had with boston

They cant kill the damn tracer

[paper crag]

what do you guys think is the highest priority for SHD for team building?

[frozen yew]

No idea

[paper crag]

like a serious priority, not "get good lol"

[pearl stratus]

Nothing honestly. Their new recruits basically cover all their bases.

[frozen yew]

Getting a better dva

[pearl stratus]

They just don't have the people capable to do it at the moment.

[cursive talon]

they got rid of U4 so....

[spring lintel]

Wtf 2 solo kills and 1 kill with 60% damage

[tight vault]

bunny aimbot kappa

[pearl stratus]

MG is garbage, so 1/2 tanks are just trash.

Which means most of your play is screwed before it stats.

*starts.

[paper crag]

i see

[spring lintel]

And when MG is trash, it’s hard for roshan to play.

[pearl stratus]

You can't dive properly with a garbage D'va.

[boreal mango]

less reliance on Undead

[pearl stratus]

And unlike say ... Mickie. MG didn't get any better in Stage 1.

[frozen yew]

Mg why you so bad

[spring lintel]

Undead should contest bunny

[frozen yew]

You are worse than me i think

[pearl stratus]

Whereas Mickie got better and is noticeably more reliable in Stage 2.

[boreal mango]

undead is a good DPS but you can't rely on him to kill everything

[frozen yew]

Even i know when to dive

[paper crag]

so i suppose geguri is theoretically a good addition, ignoring the probable language barrier

highly probable lol

[pearl stratus]

The language barrier won't matter in most situations.

Because Fearless will replace Roshan.

So both your tanks will be Korean.

[paper crag]

ah okay

[pearl stratus]

And they can communicate then.

[cursive talon]

tobi with the thirst for blood

[boreal mango]

they've mentioned before, in the middle of a game language isn't so much of an issue because it's 90% MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY

[frozen yew]

What is mg even doing/???

When his team dives he doesnt

[boreal mango]

it's between game when you're talking strategy it's an issue

[frozen yew]

When 2 die

He dives someone in a small room

[pearl stratus]

If Shanghai is smart, and this is just my opinion, post new people they'll run 3:3 Korean/Chinese.

[spring lintel]

I think people are hyping up geguri for no reason

[frozen yew]

We are

[spring lintel]

She is good but not that good imo

[forest wharf]

He keeps saying xusha instead of xushu

[frozen yew]

Because we want shaghai to win

[pearl stratus]

Fearless/Geguri/Ado as your koreans. Altering/Sky/Undead for your Chinese.

With Diya when you need him.

[paper crag]

i do think she's pretty overhyped but i think she's still a solid owl material

[frozen yew]

She is better than mg

[visual glen]

She's still better than whatever they have now

[rustic perch]

overhyped yea, but she's still a strong player

[spring lintel]

Yeah definitely

[pearl stratus]

I think she's more than good enough for OWL, I think people are just going bananas because its a girl.

And they're all retarded.

[boreal mango]

Geguri has a shit tonne of experience with dva now too, should be a good fit to replace MG

[pearl stratus]

I don't care if you've got a dick or a vagina, just tank well.

[paper crag]

yeah the whole "omg nobody signed geguri, the female overwatch pro" in stage 1 was kind of annoying

[quasi stump]

people are going bananas because she will be a fantastic addition to Shanghai, not because she's a girl

[pearl stratus]

No, its a lot because she's a girl.

[molten skiff]

people who dont know shit

[spring lintel]

Hello Dragons my old friend FeelsBadMan I've come to root for you again FeelsBadMan

[forest wharf]

Its not like shd can get much worse

[molten skiff]

aka people who dont even watch OWL

yeah

[pearl stratus]

It's 2018, 90% of the world runs on SJW bullshit right now lol

[molten skiff]

but people who watch shanghai play

[paper crag]

like yeah, it sucks that she's a good player who didn't get a team, but her gender doesn't warrant a position on owl

[indigo barn]

lots of people are overhyping her because she's a girl

[versed crystal]

srry guys

[molten skiff]

they going nuts because fuck watching MG playing

[versed crystal]

i went to east

[balmy wolf]

Geguri isn't as good as people are saying

[versed crystal]

eat

[pearl stratus]

I had someone in a comp game say they don't watch OWL because its racist and there's no people of color.

[boreal mango]

[versed crystal]

wuts the score rn

[frozen yew]

Well geguri is really good

[ruby pendant]

Endokem upset!!!

[balmy wolf]

at one point she was one of the best zarya players in the world

[indigo barn]

like can you like me because i'm pro zarya please not because i have tits

[versed crystal]

Guys wuts the score rn

[frozen yew]

But not like muma or gesture

[balmy wolf]

but people got better

[paper crag]

no people of color lol

[boreal mango]

Ah yes, asians, schrodingers POC

[paper crag]

half the league is koreans

[frozen yew]

SI watched some of her streams

[molten skiff]

lawl

[forest wharf]

Theres plenty of yellow people in owl

[molten skiff]

"no people of colour"

[pearl stratus]

Koreans are apparently just white people looking at the sun.

[molten skiff]

40% is korean

[pearl stratus]

So they squint.

Duh.

[frozen yew]

She is probably dallas or valiant level

[paper crag]

i get irrationally triggered when people do the whole "LUL LONDON" thing though

[balmy wolf]

there's like 1 black guy

[molten skiff]

a lot of hispanics too

[balmy wolf]

I think on boston

[paper crag]

mayhem has 0 americans

[indigo barn]

she must have a mean zarya but not as mean as spree

[balmy wolf]

or is he hispanic

idk

[pearl stratus]

Hes Ethiopian.

[balmy wolf]

o

[frozen yew]

Hydration is latin american i think

[balmy wolf]

so black

[rustic perch]

gladiators has iremiix

[pearl stratus]

But he's also lived in the US since he was 4.

So he's American.

[paper crag]

i think houston is like the only team that has over half US players

[quasi stump]

hydration is from brazil I think?

[frozen yew]

Yeah

My country

Wooo

[pearl stratus]

Hydration is so bad this stage.

[balmy wolf]

hydration is brazilian yes

[pearl stratus]

Poor Hydration.

[balmy wolf]

but he is not playing well

[frozen yew]

He is inconsistent

[viral bronze]

seoul vs shanghai is like grandmaster vs bronze

[balmy wolf]

there is not much diversity in terms of skill

[pearl stratus]

It's not even inconsistent. He's just -really- bad this stage so far.

[balmy wolf]

played against shanghai dragons players before

[pearl stratus]

He was breakout good in Stage 1, the random Doomfist plays etc.

[balmy wolf]

i have never been that dominated in a match before

[paper crag]

i wish i were good enough to meet pros in my games :\

[balmy wolf]

yet i was able to dps against kragie/sinatraa

[paper crag]

not that i even play comp that much anymore lol

[pearl stratus]

Undead is really good, but apparently kind of a dick.

[balmy wolf]

i will never understand how theyre doing so poorly in games

Shanghai's players are good

they're just not coordinated enough and not at the level of other teams

[pearl stratus]

4/6 of their players are good.

[balmy wolf]

they pubstomp top 500 games

on ladder

[pearl stratus]

MG and Freefeel being replaced is giant.

[balmy wolf]

but they're just not

good in OWL

honestly i think their comms are lacking

might be

[frozen yew]

Well

[balmy wolf]

they all speak the same language tho

[paper crag]

do you guys ever wonder if going to shanghai/florida is like a career death though?

[frozen yew]

We will never hear those coms

[balmy wolf]

i cant think of anything else

[pearl stratus]

At this point I'm betting there's a chunk of infighting and blame.

[balmy wolf]

other teams have language barriers

god no

[frozen yew]

Because they never win

[pearl stratus]

@paper crag It's high risk high reward.

[balmy wolf]

lmao if it was then dafran wouldnt have joined mayhem

[frozen yew]

Florida not

Shanghai yes

[boreal mango]

plat coms

smh

[pearl stratus]

Because you could get stuck there, but you could also save a team.

[versed crystal]

guys

wuts the score

[frozen yew]

Florida is really inconsistent

[scarlet spear]

dafran??

[boreal mango]

they should shout MONKEY more

[versed crystal]

WUTS THE SCORE

[frozen yew]

Shanghai aways looses

[paper crag]

of course, i guess being in owl is better than not being in owl, but i feel like it's harder to show people that you're good enough to be in a better team

[frozen yew]

1-0 seoul

[versed crystal]

oh

[frozen yew]

Score

[boreal mango]

2-0 to SHD

[whole mulch]

Dafran told me teams won't pick him because his widow and cree isn't good enough

[balmy wolf]

keep in mind guys that these players are still at the very top of the ladders

[paper crag]

yeah

[whole mulch]

and that tracer players need to be able to widow

[paper crag]

definitely

[pearl stratus]

Dafran also isn't confirmed, it's most likely sure.

But not confirmed.

[balmy wolf]

@paper crag you need to be scouted then go to try outs

[frozen yew]

Yeah because mg sure is at the top of the ladder right?

[whole mulch]

The dafran mayhem thing was a troll

[balmy wolf]

didnt sinatraa confirm it

fuck

[frozen yew]

Mg plays like a plat dva

[scarlet spear]

lmao no

[pearl stratus]

Sinatraa can't confirm shit.

[scarlet spear]

it was fun

dafran is on the NRG stream team now

[whole mulch]

Dafran was trolling with shadder

[boreal mango]

Well the SHD choices were really sketchy, the top players in China were ignored

[balmy wolf]

i use owl as examples for coaching

its really helpful

uh oh i see baaam

[spring lintel]

Dafran doesnt want to be a pro, it’s not worth it for him.

[paper crag]

@balmy wolf are you talking about me specifically, or "you" as in a nonspecific person?

[frozen yew]

Shd chose people from a forum if im not mistaken

[forest raven]

BUBBLY

[whole mulch]

mg is at the top of the ladder yes

[forest raven]

[spring lintel]

Lol

[pearl stratus]

Also its a high risk pick for any team.

[balmy wolf]

nonspecific person

[whole mulch]

he was like 4500 sr last season

[versed crystal]

shanghai sux

[pearl stratus]

Because Dafran brings a few tons of bad for his good.

[frozen yew]

How is mg even that high?

[uncut moon]

he is a boosted monkey

[balmy wolf]

calvin would absolutely have been picked up by a team if he wanted to

[forest raven]

Because ladder is not pro play

[spring lintel]

Nope, dafrn is all good.

[boreal mango]

boosted account

[whole mulch]

he's not bad, he just doesn't play well in pro games

[spring lintel]

Dafran is the whole package

[paper crag]

oh okay. because i'm nowhere near the skill level to even dream about being in owl lol

[whole mulch]

lacks coordination I guess

[balmy wolf]

yet

[whole mulch]

I think mg is the highest rank on shanghai

[balmy wolf]

[boreal mango]

maybe dafran should coach

[paper crag]

eh i'd be happy with being in diamond

[balmy wolf]

he shouldnt

[paper crag]

currently in silver :\

[whole mulch]

I don't think dafran's gamesense is too great

[frozen yew]

Im in low plat

[boreal mango]

maybe you should git good, vivid

[spring lintel]

You know that selfless got carried because they played pocket the soldier strat

[balmy wolf]

give it time and hit us up in dms/ping us in #old-gameplay-advice for help

[pearl stratus]

I can't wait to see Sinatraa's first OWL rage.

When SBB shits all over him.

Again.

[balmy wolf]

sinatraa is not that good tbh

[boreal mango]

but dw, I started in silver and I hit plat last season and held it this season so far, so there's hope for all us scrubs 😃

[balmy wolf]

ive been able to soldier against him

[scarlet spear]

im not sold on sinatraa/super saving SF shock

[spring lintel]

I don’t think anyone is better thank dafran in tracking

[pearl stratus]

Because literally SBB vs. Sinatraa looks like an MMA fighter against a baby.

[balmy wolf]

will there ever be a console league

[paper crag]

eh i'd love to be better, but i'm not really that invested in the competitive aspect so i mainly play arcade

[balmy wolf]

dafran's tracking is arguably one of the best

if not the

harryhook's soldier tho

[paper crag]

it would be cool to get tips from higher level players though

[balmy wolf]

[spring lintel]

It is the best

[balmy wolf]

ive played against harryhook before

i think in s6

fucking hell

peeling against his soldier was a nightmare

[boreal mango]

i miss CTF

[cursive talon]

dafran from quake right? thats where he comes from?

[paper crag]

didn't dafran say he's not playing pro again, not that those kinds of statements hold much value

[balmy wolf]

he played cs i thought

[spring lintel]

Anyone else got shit resolution even on 1080p?

[whole mulch]

Dafran played csgo

[balmy wolf]

dafran said hes a troll through and through, and doesnt wanna play pro

[cursive talon]

bitrate

[paper crag]

you mean shit resolution on twitch, right?

[spring lintel]

Yeah dafran is not gonna go pro sadly

[boreal mango]

mine looks as good as twitch gets

[paper crag]

i kind of have bad resolution too despite 1080 :\

[spring lintel]

Unless OWL blows the fuck up

[fading wasp]

How much of a hindrance is a language barrier in OWL? Would it be worth it to make a concession in terms of skill in order to have everyone speaking the same language? I see on a lot of these teams there's one guy for whom the in-game text is a different language than the others.

[uncut moon]

isn't dafran danish?

[pearl stratus]

I still argue even if it blows up there's a chance he doesn't get picked up just because he's a shitfuck.

And sometimes cohesion between teammates matter.

[spring lintel]

He is not tho

He is literally the best reformed i have ever seen

[boreal mango]

@fading wasp they just Yell MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY

[whole mulch]

dafran is danish yeah

[brisk roost]

Are you not allowed to swear in OWL?

Just a quick question

[spring lintel]

Like legit, i don’t know how it’s possible for him to be so good now.

[paper crag]

i feel like language barrier wouldn't be that big of a problem if you have a composition you're sticking to, but pretty hindering when you need to adapt mid-game

[whole mulch]

OWL is supposedly family friendly

[boreal mango]

no swears it's a christian server

[whole mulch]

so I guess not

[brisk roost]

I see

[whole mulch]

profit got in trouble for the middle finger

[spring lintel]

Never ever shit talks no matter what. Even when he tilts.

[forest wharf]

Throw aimbotcalvin in shd too

[paper crag]

but i wouldn't know because i'm not a pro level player in any game lol

[brisk roost]

Cause someone from SF Shock swore last week

[boreal mango]

but yeah I think they're trying to keep OWL the same age rating as the game, so no swearing

[brisk roost]

I heard "Let's fucking go" lmao

[paper crag]

lol

[boreal mango]

fair enough though, this is their job, stay professional

[pearl stratus]

I don't think there's any clause against swearing.

[boreal mango]

If I swore at work I'd get told not to

[pearl stratus]

I mean you couldn't stand up in the arena and be like "FUCK YOU ALL"

[paper crag]

yeah i agree with keeping the scene professional

[pearl stratus]

That'd be a no no.

[fading wasp]

The bad resolution is due to compression. If there's a lot going on all at one time, the video quality will go to shit.

[brisk roost]

That's obviously not tolerable

[spring lintel]

Mlg probably got a better resolution i bet

[brisk roost]

tolerable

[boreal mango]

meme league gaming

[scarlet spear]

mlg has a higher bitrate

twitch is bitrate capped

so even if you stream on 1080p since the bitrate is only half it looks worse

[paper crag]

but muh 1 league point drop

[brisk roost]

Yeah Twitch have a limited bitrate

[spring lintel]

Same res even on mlg

[cursive talon]

its wednesday they should have the mlg stream

[spring lintel]

Well this sucks

[brisk roost]

MLG stream is not on everyday?

For OWL?

[spring lintel]

It is

[boreal mango]

promethean leave twitch running on the minimum settings and use MLG on max quality

[paper crag]

btw, what made soldier such a prominent pick in the last two weeks? the sustain, now that mercy offers less sustain?

or is it the map pool

[spring lintel]

Dive too good

[brisk roost]

How many people are watching on MLG stream?

[whole mulch]

Not me

[boreal mango]

MLG makes me miss halo 3

[cursive talon]

no pop out player mlg player i htink

[paper crag]

pros make tracer 1 clip look so easy

[versed crystal]

rip shanghai

they suck

[boreal mango]

IKR haha

[spring lintel]

Some maps soldier is good at but mostly dive is better cause you can play it on almost every map instead of practicing soldier strats on some maps

[pearl stratus]

Well Bunny is just an animal.

Even if Bunny is their back up tracer.

[versed crystal]

yeah

[pearl stratus]

He's still an animal.

[boreal mango]

I go play tracer after this and fail to 3-clip a zen

[paper crag]

rabbits are animals yes confirmed

[boreal mango]

it's so frustrating

[paper crag]

😛

[brisk roost]

Lol

[spring lintel]

Why is MG on zarya

[whole mulch]

Who do you guys think are the top 3 tracers of the league

[paper crag]

lol blink onto zen, get immediately headshotted with 5 charge shot

[fading wasp]

^ git fukt

[spring lintel]

Put xush on junkrat, MG on dva, undead on zarya

[paper crag]

blink onto zen, spray 3 clips and still die with zen on 10 hp

[spring lintel]

Sbb, soon, and someone

[boreal mango]

this game is really beneficial to seoul really. getting good stage time for the B-team, plenty for coaches to monitor to see standout players and also giving the main guys time off

[forest wharf]

Sbb, bunny, and soon

[pearl stratus]

SBB, Soon, probably Carpe.

[paper crag]

lol for a second, i was like who's "someone?"

[quasi stump]

munchkin?

[indigo barn]

striker

[pearl stratus]

Nah.]

[indigo barn]

:/

[pearl stratus]

Carpe is ebtter than Munchkin/Bunny.

[whole mulch]

I find munchkin better than bunny

[brisk roost]

Striker is good

And Carpe

[paper crag]

so effect is no longer considered one of the best tracers?

[brisk roost]

SBB is obv the best tho

[boreal mango]

yeah but carpe needs all that water

[spring lintel]

I think top 2 are sbb and soon the third place can go to a lot of good tracers

[paper crag]

no sarcasm

[fading wasp]

I almost get annoyed when Tracers can't kill me. Like, come on man, seriously? You're supposed to destroy me.

[whole mulch]

Effect was never considered one of the best tracers

[indigo barn]

jake is the best tracer

100%

[forest wharf]

Rip

[pearl stratus]

Effect was always a good tracer, but never one of the best.

[forest wharf]

[whole mulch]

He was pushed out of korea because all he could get was substitute

[boreal mango]

you mean...

[desert hornet]

rip shanghai

[paper crag]

i see

[whole mulch]

Effect is good but

[pearl stratus]

He looked amazing because in Stage 1 it was Effect 1v11 with Dallas.

[boreal mango]

J K E

[spring lintel]

He is being inconsistent lately

[pearl stratus]

Since the team was trash.

[paper crag]

so what exactly is effect's strength?

[forest wharf]

Why are shanghai still trying to triple tank

[whole mulch]

I don't know, his aim?

[indigo barn]

effect plays uh... widow..??

[pearl stratus]

When he's on his game he's a consistent versatile dps.

[molten skiff]

effect is tracer

[whole mulch]

If you watched the valiant vs fuel game

[desert hornet]

i think effect does his own thing too much

[indigo barn]

effect plays the hitscans....?

idk really

[whole mulch]

you can see soon's gamesense is much higher than effect's

[pearl stratus]

His tracking is good, so he can Tracer and McCree really well.

[molten skiff]

really good at traversing around the map

[pearl stratus]

But now that you have AKM you can see that Effect wasn't amazing.

[spring lintel]

I think he is smart

[indigo barn]

they dont need effect

play AKM and Rascal 24/7

[whole mulch]

Akm is a higher achiever than effect

more tournament wins

rascal too

[boreal mango]

y'all motherfuckers need some Birdring in your life

[spring lintel]

Movement, who to target, where to go and stuff like that.

[desert hornet]

effect is good but not as good as people make him seem

[pearl stratus]

They're all more consistent too.

[whole mulch]

Birdring is amazing too

[indigo barn]

birdring is the best dps in the league

[whole mulch]

Honestly I would put effect as one of the worst tracer mains in the league

[forest raven]

https://i.imgur.com/JzKOXM8.png

[whole mulch]

Maybe danteh

[brisk roost]

Birdring is actually awesome

[whole mulch]

Idk

[paper crag]

29-0 lol

[pearl stratus]

Nah not Danteh anymore.

[brisk roost]

He has great skills

[frozen yew]

0 DEATHS

[pearl stratus]

Danteh improved a lot over Stage 1.

[paper crag]

47% accuracy what

[spring lintel]

Best dps in the league is between fleta and someone else i forgot

[boreal mango]

0 deaths omegalul

[frozen yew]

Logix?

[molten skiff]

jesus christ

[indigo barn]

fleta is a feeder

[fading wasp]

jfc 47% accuracy

[pearl stratus]

I still don't think he's great - but Danteh has improved a lot.

[frozen yew]

He is pretty good

[spring lintel]

Profit yeah

Profit and fleta

[whole mulch]

Logix was actually considered to be much better than danteh pre-owl

[frozen yew]

But cant carry tviq

[whole mulch]

but I don't know now

[indigo barn]

more like profit and birdring

[paper crag]

4 pulse kills too lol

[boreal mango]

Profit/Birdring are a terrifying combo

[frozen yew]

Logix is really good

[pearl stratus]

SBB + Libero are the scariest combo imo.

[spring lintel]

Best dps in the league profit and fleta

[frozen yew]

But he cant carry tviq

[scarlet spear]

logix was so good back then for misfits, he seems to be in a slump nowadays

[frozen yew]

Who is dead 90% of the matches

[indigo barn]

best dps is birdring

[whole mulch]

Logix can't really shine with his team

[rustic perch]

i'd love to see more of libero's hanzo again

[paper crag]

do you guys think sayaplayer is a good addition to mayhem?

[scarlet spear]

yes

[spring lintel]

I guess

[whole mulch]

Sayaplayer is one of the best tracers

[frozen yew]

Good

[pearl stratus]

I think any team having more than 6 players is good.

[whole mulch]

he's a huge pickup

[frozen yew]

Now logix can play soldier

[paper crag]

but isn't mayhem's dps line already pretty decent

[spring lintel]

I think they need more than just 1 player

[pearl stratus]

Because sometimes you just mentally need a break too.

[boreal mango]

lmao does OWL need even more tracers ffs

[pearl stratus]

So this will help with that.

[frozen yew]

Tviq is trash wut

[molten skiff]

altering only died 3 times?

[boreal mango]

so many good tracers

[spring lintel]

Tviq and logix are bots nowadays

[whole mulch]

It's tracer meta boys

[brisk roost]

Wanna know which team that need a good Tracer?

Houston

[whole mulch]

Sayaplayer will replace logix

[pearl stratus]

Tracer is the one hero who's never been bad, basically.

[frozen yew]

Logix is good tho

[whole mulch]

Houston needs a tracer

[indigo barn]

but houston already has jake

[brisk roost]

Logix is Jake tier

[frozen yew]

They are getting awesomeguy

[visual glen]

[brisk roost]

Tbh

[pearl stratus]

Houston has Clockwork. What Houston needs is not to be reliant on Jake for shotcalling/strategy.

[paper crag]

tracer is mainly countered by the person playing her

[spring lintel]

Imagine if Houston had a player called clockwork

[paper crag]

lol

[whole mulch]

Oh I forgot about clockwork

lol

[boreal mango]

R8 I agree completely. JKE tries, but he's not up to the same standard

[pearl stratus]

Because I don't think Houston can actually afford to bench Jake.

And that's the real problem.

[spring lintel]

Maybe they are strong because of jake calls?

[indigo barn]

like if they wanna play tracer play clockwork, at least he's decent and doesnt suck ass

[brisk roost]

Clockwork is better than Jake for sure as Tracer tbh

[indigo barn]

but jake on tracer hard carries

[pearl stratus]

Jake is probably one of the 'smartest' OW players.

[whole mulch]

I think they can find better than clockwork

[frozen yew]

They cant bench ake

[whole mulch]

but clockwork's tracer > jake's

for sure

[pearl stratus]

Especially if you watch his old stuff.

[indigo barn]

jake's tracer makes me wanna die

[frozen yew]

Because he plays more heroes

And is versitile

[pearl stratus]

Where he'd do like psychological breakdowns of games too.

[boreal mango]

maybe just let JKE play what he's good at then haha, stop making him play tracer it's so bad

[brisk roost]

Jake's Tracer is pretty much a loss lol

[pearl stratus]

The kids got crazy game sense.

[indigo barn]

jake's tracer = SPAM RIGHT CLICK

[spring lintel]

Yeah i keep saying this stuff, his mechanics are meh but he is smart as fuck

[indigo barn]

jake is gonna play tracer Vs. Mayhem and lose calling it rn

[pearl stratus]

Yeah they literally can't afford to bench him.

Which people don't get.

[desert hornet]

am i the only who wishes that i could watch owl directly in the overwatch game

[brisk roost]

I'd be really pissed tbh

[pearl stratus]

So you better get his Tracer better fast as fuck.

[whole mulch]

No Argon

[indigo barn]

bench him if he keeps playing tracer

[whole mulch]

we all wish that

[brisk roost]

But then again Logix shouldn't be a problem

[fading wasp]

Who tf is Jake and why is everyone shitting on him?

[whole mulch]

Jake from Houston

[molten skiff]

???????

i swear

[whole mulch]

he became a meme

[brisk roost]

@fading wasp The DPS from Houston Outlaws

[fading wasp]

ah

[molten skiff]

sideshow's other arm was injured

[brisk roost]

He's a meme cause his main is Junkrat

[indigo barn]

the DPS from houston outlaws who thinks he 's pro tracer

[desert hornet]

jakerat

[molten skiff]

not his left arm

[fading wasp]

a... a professional Junkrat main?

[spring lintel]

Yes

[boreal mango]

He's great for strategy/gamesense but has been on tracer recently and is pretty poor, he's a junkrat main and basically just spam lel

[pearl stratus]

I still don't get why its a meme that he was shitting on people using Junkrat.

[brisk roost]

Pretty much yeah

[indigo barn]

he sSHOULD"VE play junkrat but no he stuck to tracer

[pearl stratus]

Either way, you lost.

[fading wasp]

The guy professionally spams LMB

[indigo barn]

if he still plays tracer in the next series i'm done

[brisk roost]

He's a good Roadhog too tbh

[indigo barn]

yes he wAs

[pearl stratus]

You'd have to be a fucking moron to not use your best weapons.

[frozen yew]

Jake is a good soldier

[indigo barn]

he's decent on anything except trajfjacccerjerrr

[pearl stratus]

Jakes a really good soldier too, his Genji is not even horrible.

[frozen yew]

It was his original main

[pearl stratus]

Well his Genji is bad.

But his Genji ults well.

[spring lintel]

They might he forced to play jake cause of his coms, they might get fucked if he is benched.

[boreal mango]

I just think he doesn't have the experience in tracer at this level

[brisk roost]

I've never seen him play Genji yet

So I can't judge tbh

[tight vault]

JAKE IS MAD

[pearl stratus]

He's meh at Genji, but he ults well.

Because his game sense is crazy.

[indigo barn]

linkzr plays tracer better than jake

[brisk roost]

Indeed

[indigo barn]

but linkzr was the one playing soldier

and jake on trcaer

[brisk roost]

But they should have Linkzr as McCree because he wipes

As him

[spring lintel]

Linkzr is a better player than jake.

Simple

[indigo barn]

keep linkzr on mcree or widow dammit

[pearl stratus]

But yeah, like Baaam and I were saying - its most likely they need to have Jake in the game.

[indigo barn]

JAKE IS MAD

[brisk roost]

Linkzr > Jake Tracer wise

[pearl stratus]

And you pretty much need to have a Tracer.

Yeah but Linkzr can flex to mcCree/Widow.

Jake can't.

[spring lintel]

And you can’t pay anything other than tracer cause you would get fucked in dive

[frozen yew]

Lynkzer and muma are bae

[boreal mango]

Funny thing is, my favourite normie sports team has the exact same issue with a player that's a good shot caller, but just as my normie team needs to do, they need to take the hit and give others experience being shot callers so they're not super reliant on one guy in the long term

[pearl stratus]

So you can't lock Linkzr to the Tracer.

[indigo barn]

but why did jake play tracer vs sbb the anti-tracer tracer

[pearl stratus]

You don't want to reset two ults when you need to swap the comp.

[brisk roost]

But why tho

[indigo barn]

i know i dont want linkzr playing tracer but he would've better than jake

[brisk roost]

Why can't Clockwork do the job if they need a Tracer?

[indigo barn]

i have no clue man

zero clue

[spring lintel]

If you put linkzr on tracer, jake will be farmed on other heroes

[pearl stratus]

We literally just talked about coms and shot call.

[whole mulch]

they wanted jake in the game in case he needed to swap

clockwork would pretty much just play tracer

[boreal mango]

where do you apply to become coaches lol

we should do it

[brisk roost]

It's simple really, Jake can use other DPS and Hog while Clockwork can use his Tracer skills

[indigo barn]

jake, get tf off tracer

[frozen yew]

Clockwork only plays tracer

[boreal mango]

community run OW Discord team

[pearl stratus]

Then where's Linkzr?

\Because Linkzr is their best dps.

[indigo barn]

linkzr needs to stay every match

[paper crag]

"SHD is proud to announce the signing of a new coach, r/Overwatch!"

[indigo barn]

they need the widow picks

[brisk roost]

Linkzr does the same

Also

[indigo barn]

and the mcree wipes

[boreal mango]

omg yes

[brisk roost]

Jake normally uses Junkrat anyway

[pearl stratus]

He honestly doesn't.

[indigo barn]

in their first game vs nyxl linkzr countered pine hard

[paper crag]

hive mind can't be wrong, right?

[boreal mango]

it's perfect, china are communists, we can have communal coaching

[pearl stratus]

He averaged maybe 25 minutes more time in Stage 1 on Junkrat than Profit on London.

People are just meme-tards

[brisk roost]

Also as Soldier

[pearl stratus]

And don't look at numbers.

[indigo barn]

profit's junkrat is better than jakes

[brisk roost]

Lol

[indigo barn]

or the same idk

[brisk roost]

Profit missed that Mercy hiding bruh

[frozen yew]

Wut

[boreal mango]

well yeah, profit > jake, hands down

[brisk roost]

How can you say Profit is better

[frozen yew]

Jakeis best junkrat

Profit is best player

[whole mulch]

The JaKeraT is uncontested

[pearl stratus]

I'm not even defending Jake, I'm just saying the Jakerat thing didnt' really exist in Stage 1.

[whole mulch]

oops

[indigo barn]

profit has a bowl cut thats what makes him fucking op

[warm quartz]

I love the emote of the guys face over his shoulder rn

[pearl stratus]

Just people shoved their heads up their asses and forgot to come up for air.

[boreal mango]

P R F I T

J K E

who wore it better

[indigo barn]

what the fuck are you gonna do against a dude with a bowl cut

[frozen yew]

Dallas fans did it

[indigo barn]

bowl cut shuts fuckers down

[pearl stratus]

There were like 4-5 players who had 2+ hours on Junkrat in Stage 1.

[paper crag]

is SHD's ownership in any way related to SHD's players other than the current contract? as in, is there any chance that SHD will just decide "screw the current roster, let's sign a completely new team"

[brisk roost]

They're edgy tbh lol

[warm quartz]

Shit is dallas playing tonight

[indigo barn]

vs shock

[paper crag]

dallas vs SFS

[brisk roost]

Bowl cut makes you look like a pretty boy rather than a tough guy lol

[whole mulch]

SHD's players were picked by a friend of the team who ended up as a SHD coach

[warm quartz]

Shit yea they are

Oh god

[whole mulch]

he was punished since

[indigo barn]

bowl cuts are sexy asf

[pearl stratus]

Here's my call out fo the Dallas - SFS game:

Babybay goes Widow.

Dallas gets fucked.

[whole mulch]

there are better players shanghai could have picked

[pearl stratus]

Because they can't counter a widow.

[fading wasp]

I really, really want to see a team go full-on cancer comp at some point. Sym and Torb would be a must.

[indigo barn]

shock 3-1 dallas

[whole mulch]

Do you guys think Danteh improved to sinatraa's level yet

[paper crag]

didn't dallas beat shock last stage though?

[indigo barn]

uh yeah

[pearl stratus]

That was last stage.

[brisk roost]

I could see Shock beating Fuel tbh xD!

[whole mulch]

because if that's the case sinatraa doesn't have a place on shock

[indigo barn]

but now dallas is jacked on akm steroids

[pearl stratus]

This Stage they can't beat a team who can field a decent Widow yet.

[whole mulch]

right now danteh is just a place holder for sinatraa

[brisk roost]

Same for xQc tbh

I saw his gameplay as Rein last week

[warm quartz]

They also aren’t dependent on mercy anymore

[brisk roost]

It was lit

[pearl stratus]

I wasn't joking at all.

[boreal mango]

Clearly the issue is that Shanghai Dragons all need the official Korean eSports bowl cut

[pearl stratus]

LAV beat Dallas with their Mercy on Widowmaker.

[indigo barn]

xqc needs to play more robot space cow

[whole mulch]

LAV's mercy isn't a mercy player

he's a dps main

[indigo barn]

kariv just took agilities job

[pearl stratus]

I know, but it makes it look more entertaining as a story while being factually correct.

[frozen yew]

Soon

[pearl stratus]

Kariv was their Mercy through all of Stage 1.

[whole mulch]

yeah

[pearl stratus]

Since he was the only one who could play it well.

[whole mulch]

not many supports have practice on mercy

[warm quartz]

Mercy was busted during s1 so

[whole mulch]

they practiced ana, lucio, zen

[indigo barn]

the kariv is unleashed from the mercy chains

[paper crag]

so i just realized we're already almost halfway through stage 2

[whole mulch]

Kariv is korean right?

[pearl stratus]

Oh hey.

[boreal mango]

I can't spam Tryhard emojis to this woman

[paper crag]

stage 1 felt much longer for some reason

[pearl stratus]

Kariv is like transparently never seen the sun white.

[whole mulch]

Philly beat houston last time right?

[boreal mango]

lol she blends in with the audience then

[frozen yew]

I didnt watch owl till second week in s1

[indigo barn]

yeah philly reversed sweeped houston hard

[frozen yew]

Houston c9ed hard

[brisk roost]

I lowkey think Erin > Soe xD!

[indigo barn]

i'd smash erin

[boreal mango]

big if true

[paper crag]

philly flies so low under the radar for me for some reason

[forest wharf]

29-0 loooool

[pearl stratus]

I'm glad they got another female commentator so Soe can get a reprieve from the virgins.

[whole mulch]

Btw what rank do you guys think Soe is

on ow

[brisk roost]

Is Soe not here?

Or Malik?

[frozen yew]

Bronze

[forest wharf]

Bronze

[indigo barn]

silver

[boreal mango]

Soe is still in it

[paper crag]

maybe like high plat?

[indigo barn]

gold

[boreal mango]

not seen Malik but maybe he's off this week or something idk

[pearl stratus]

They're there, they just have a schedule.

[whole mulch]

I know a lot of people that commentate this game is masters at least

I don't know about soe

[pearl stratus]

Plus, Malik is probably still laughing at calling out the 13 year olds in twitch chat.

[boreal mango]

Soe probably isn't but she's done other games too

[indigo barn]

soe is there for fan service

[whole mulch]

she seems to know a lot about the game

[brisk roost]

I see

[paper crag]

yeah i first saw soe on dota ESL

[boreal mango]

Yeah I mean, plenty normie sports commentators aren't good at the sport. But you can be very knowledgeable

[paper crag]

i kind of wish chobra was involved in OWL too

[forest wharf]

Triple tank again...because that worked the first 2 games

[brisk roost]

You don't have to be good at the game tbh

[boreal mango]

Hell Goldenboye has been in casting since Halo on xbox lol

[brisk roost]

Maybe just have enough knowledge

[paper crag]

yeah

[boreal mango]

she's a good presenter too

[paper crag]

good at game = mechanical skill + knowledge, but you'd only need knowledge to be a decent enough commentator

although i'm sure good mechanical skills also give unique insights

[boreal mango]

also you can be the best player in the game but a terrible presenter

[paper crag]

like knowing how hard a certain play was to pull off, etc

[boreal mango]

hell look at how awkward half the pros are on camera

[paper crag]

it seems like 2 tanks is a minimum. would you guys agree with that?

[boreal mango]

getting beaten in a 1v1 by a zen...

[paper crag]

i've almost never seen a 1 tank comp on owl

[indigo barn]

FULL HOLD

[boreal mango]

I've seen solo tank before, but not as a longterm strat

[whole mulch]

I don't think 1 tank was done in OWL

[indigo barn]

GET THIS SHIT

[pearl stratus]

You know what you call the team that runs 1 tank?

The losing team.

[paper crag]

lol korean and chinese casting bleeding through

wow that dragonblade got shut down

[fading wasp]

Two in a row

[brisk roost]

Bro MG is playing better than the last time

[indigo barn]

if that was shadowburn that would've been team wipe

[pearl stratus]

Took the D'va away from him.

[boreal mango]

"changing up their approach"

Playing the same as they played map 1?

[pearl stratus]

Xushu is better at it anyway.

They rotated who was on what.

They put MG on Roadhog, Xushu to D'va.

[spring lintel]

Wtf is the caster saying

[indigo barn]

GG

[hidden osprey]

COME ON SHANGHAI

[boreal mango]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[fading wasp]

That pulse bomb didn't do jack shit

[paper crag]

oh snap 1 set going to shanghai maybe?

[indigo barn]

LETS GO U FUCKERS

[forest wharf]

Wat

[spring lintel]

Shd didn’t change anything

[brisk roost]

Wow Shanghai managed to do it wow

[boreal mango]

[ruby pendant]

Dragons!!!

[balmy wolf]

shanghai won for once?

[hidden osprey]

REVERSE SWEEP

[paper crag]

FIVE ROUNDS LETS GO

[frozen yew]

Well

[indigo barn]

seoul aint SHT

[frozen yew]

They are good at triple tank

[pearl stratus]

I could commentate.

I just called that.

[boreal mango]

SEOUL DIED NASTY

[hidden osprey]

why are we still hearing the korean commentary in the background

[molten skiff]

oh wow

[torpid charm]

Y'ALL I'M DEADASS CRYING I'M SO PROUD. I LOVE SHANGHAI

[hidden osprey]

It's been like this for several minutes

[fading wasp]

oh shit

I didn't notice that

[spring lintel]

is this real life?

[pearl stratus]

Xushu is a way better D'va, gets better picks/damage. And Roadhog is beefy enough MG doesn't die instantly.

[fading wasp]

You're right

[boreal mango]

Someone fucked up backstage clearly

[torpid charm]

[pearl stratus]

So you compensate for MG's bullshit.

[indigo barn]

[paper crag]

yeah. i feel like seoul isn't really TOP TOP tier, despite the casters saying they're the best team in the game

[indigo barn]

well this is their "B-Team" w/e u call it

[boreal mango]

well this is the B team lol

[paper crag]

oh yeah true

[pearl stratus]

Though to be fair.

[indigo barn]

if jehong was sitting there idk man

[pearl stratus]

Seoul's B team would still do well in OWL.

[brisk roost]

Jehong is not even playing

[spring lintel]

Get 6 ults for the win

[boreal mango]

they would

[pearl stratus]

Just not top 3.

[whole mulch]

Seou lis using their backup players

[brisk roost]

Wait is this the subs of Seoul playing?

[whole mulch]

they must be hiding some new strategy

or something

yes

[paper crag]

does seoul have the biggest roster in the league right now?

[whole mulch]

except tobi

[brisk roost]

That's why I don't see Jehong

[pearl stratus]

Nah Seoul has always been smart about getting all their teammates on the stage.

[whole mulch]

i think london

[pearl stratus]

It's a confidence boost for when you do need them.

[paper crag]

oh yeah they're pretty huge

[boreal mango]

ah, I see seoul are doing the London Spitfire strategy of "don't defend point A and lose"

[fading wasp]

God, the Korean commentators are hotmicing again...

[brisk roost]

Yeah Seoul has 12 players total

[spring lintel]

Mg not sucking

[hidden osprey]

omg come on!

[spring lintel]

Nvm

[hidden osprey]

One more push

[paper crag]

INTIMIDATION DRAGONBLADE

[fading wasp]

wow these dragonblades are arse

[paper crag]

nah he's asserting dominance

[boreal mango]

POGGERS

[hidden osprey]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[verbal roost]

woo 😄

[boreal mango]

P O G G E R S

[visual glen]

wew

[indigo barn]

LETS GO FUCKERS

[brisk roost]

NICE!!

THEY TOOK A MAP

[indigo barn]

[pearl stratus]

First map of Stage 2 from Seoul.

[ruby pendant]

Dragons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hidden osprey]

SHD

[pearl stratus]

Calling Fleta being subbed in.

[spring lintel]

REVERSE SWEEP

[boreal mango]

🐉 🐉 🐉 🐉

[paper crag]

oh wow i've never seen any kind of pro gamer use a logitech G502 before

[indigo barn]

sit the FUCK down seoul

[warm quartz]

Excuse me what

[fading wasp]

Are the Dragons the underdogs here then? I don't know much about OWL..

[boreal mango]

REVERSE SWEEP LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[errant kayak]

a ton of people use the g502

[indigo barn]

REVESRSE SWEEP INCOMING

[warm quartz]

@fading wasp they’ve lost every series

[spring lintel]

If there is map 5 it will have 3 players switch

[warm quartz]

So yes

[errant kayak]

it's just logitech doesn't sponsor anywhere near as much as other companies

[hidden osprey]

Dragons haven't won a single match set yet