esports-discussion

[humble moth]

dat comeback

[tight vault]

thanks for the answer

[pastel phoenix]

refreshed and now it does

[indigo barn]

yeeaAAHH

[pearl cedar]

like the Dragons had good games vs seoul/valiant

because their dps popped off

[serene tendon]

undead mccree is always great to watch

[pearl cedar]

but every player is gonna have a bad day

[pearl stratus]

It's whether or not they have their tanks getting crushed.

If Roshan/MG can give them even a -little- bit of space.

Undead and Diya can do their thing.

But so often they don't get any space.

[rough night]

Diya has that look....

[visual glen]

Shanghai's DPS is good

[viral bronze]

its like MG does not care

[whole narwhal]

Then Shangai has bad days all the time lul

[tight vault]

Is shanghai winning ?

[humble moth]

where does it say drops are enabled/disabled?

[pearl cedar]

yeah they need better tank/support coordination

[frozen yew]

No

[pearl cedar]

and i think they could actually be a solid mid-tier team

[pearl stratus]

Honestly as much as people have boners for Pine.

Undead is my favorite McCree to watch

[rough night]

pine is hit and miss

[pearl stratus]

Because he pulls off some nutty stuff while having a bunch of garbage tanks around him.

[rough night]

sometimes he's good... sometimes he's meh

[pearl stratus]

Pine gets a ton of room because NYXL has the two, arguably, best tanks in the league.

[viral bronze]

Diya cried

in 1 of his games i think

[humble moth]

hes not a good zen at all

[rough night]

shock are gettin rolled

wtf actually happened

[pearl cedar]

Diyaa

[whole narwhal]

For real?

[pearl cedar]

well i think danteh pussied out on the zen kill

he could've got the 1 clip

[rough night]

its like a different team ....

[humble moth]

they swapped freefeel in and now theyre doing work

[pearl stratus]

Like what was MG's deep dive on that.

[humble moth]

he does dive to far

[pearl stratus]

There was no read to go from back stairs, down the front and to the pillar after a Soldier with ult.

[brisk roost]

Nevix carried bruh

[humble moth]

maybe to slow down the enemy team so they dont rush the point, they rush him instead

[pearl stratus]

And he didn't even have Defense Matrix.

[rough night]

ffs get of the DVA and on undead

off*

[pearl stratus]

Also yeah, as much as Shock is Babybay most of the time Nevix is the hard carry.

If I'm not mistaken the Shanghai coach also used similar stupid strats in the last world cup.

He thinks its okay to sacrifice a tank to split attention.

But it doesn't work in OWL.

[rough night]

how did MG get a spot ........ is he related to the team owner somehow

[pearl stratus]

he was on the coaches old team.

Bad nepotism.

[hidden osprey]

Oh my

[humble moth]

that was a waste

[azure harbor]

[hidden osprey]

Are shanghai gonna do it

[rough night]

...... he's not shit by any means..... but he isnt at the level of OWL

[pearl stratus]

Their coach also got banned for a while.

Because he was trying to use his players to boost his account.

[hidden osprey]

Noo :(

[pearl stratus]

Wait not banned, Fined.

[brisk roost]

Damn xD!

[azure harbor]

let them win

[frozen yew]

Shangai=Free win

[whole narwhal]

Banned for getting boosted I understand, but FINED? Man, OWL is something else.

[pearl stratus]

This was before OWL.

[frozen yew]

Even if they threw the game playing symmetra

Dragons would still loose

[pearl stratus]

It was when they were U4.

[rough night]

WTF!

[pearl stratus]

But most of the news didn't come out until after they were announced as the dragons.

[rough night]

why is MG charging into the whole shock team

[pearl stratus]

Also LGD, not U4.

My brains not working.

[whole narwhal]

Still, fined for getting boosted is freakin’ bananas

[rough night]

DVA's shield is a necessity

[pearl stratus]

It's account sharing, its a bannable offensive for ToS.

The best part was it wasn't Blizzard that fined him.

The Dragons organization did.

And it wasn't tiny.

It was like..

$10,000?

[whole narwhal]

Okay. okay. For a second I thought it was Blizzard that went full retard by fining someone for getting boosted.

But they haven’t descended to that level... yet

[humble moth]

doing that in legit tournaments isnt cool though

[pearl stratus]

They seem to be letting the teams do their own thing for that stuff.

They just fine for general behavior stupidity.

[whole narwhal]

Of course it isn’t that’s why you ban’em

[pearl stratus]

Poor Profit.

[visual glen]

wat

[uncut moon]

mg>

?

[young sonnet]

what in the fuck

[uncut moon]

what was that self destruct

?>

[visual glen]

what was that

[pearl stratus]

Most expensive accidental middle finger lol

[uncut moon]

?????

??????????????

[frozen yew]

No idea

[humble moth]

its the esports equivalent of performance enhancing drugs

[viral bronze]

why does mg keep moving left and right

[frozen yew]

Retardation

Team kill

[pearl stratus]

Because MG is just the worst.

[whole narwhal]

Isn’t ritalin a comp game performance enhancing drug

[humble moth]

yeah

[frozen yew]

I have 79 hours in dva

And im probably better than mg

[whole narwhal]

Getting boosted only ranks you up, it doesn’t make you better at the game

[pearl stratus]

It's weird, because its an enhancing drug if you don't have ADHD.

If you have any real reason you need to take it.

They don't consider it.

But its basically just like medical marijuana. You can convince any mediocre doctor you have ADHD.

[uncut moon]

how do PEDS work in gaming? Increased reflexes?

[idle beacon]

GO DRAGONS

[pearl stratus]

Increase focus and concentration, typically.

[visual glen]

Shanghai needs their new tanks really badly lmao

[humble moth]

yeah reflexes, focus

[idle beacon]

HONOR YOUR BAM LEE GOD!

[brisk roost]

Damn GG

DRAGONS DONT LET ME DOWN PLS

[pearl stratus]

@humble moth If you ever want to understand just how generally bad they are look up LGD on Liquipedia.

[frozen yew]

Well i use adhd medication

That might be why im good at dva

[whole narwhal]

On the downside ritalin may make you hyperfocus on only one thing, making your comms go to shit and stuff

[humble moth]

whats LGD?

[pearl stratus]

Their old team.

[humble moth]

ah

[viral bronze]

MG moves even when theres no one there

[pearl stratus]

Basically never finished higher than fourth in most tournaments.

[frozen yew]

I actually dont feel any sideeffects from ritalin

[pearl stratus]

And its where MG and Altering come from.

As well as Undead.

[frozen yew]

Wich is weird

[humble moth]

that means you needc it

[pearl stratus]

Undead actually deserved his spot though.

[humble moth]

When I take it its basically coke

[viral bronze]

how did MG get in

[indigo barn]

🤷

[pearl stratus]

Nepotism, we already talked about that!

U4 brought a bunch of garbage from his old team because he wanted it, and no one stopped him.

[indigo barn]

this is already another 4-0 i'm gonna go drop down to bronze

[pearl stratus]

Basically bad investors leaving important decisions to shit people.

[humble moth]

his face is square as fuclk

[pearl stratus]

You leave Diya's Minecraft face alone.

[humble moth]

lol

[pearl stratus]

Its weird OW players either look mad normal, or mad weird. There's no in between.

[uncut moon]

Are OWL players tested

[pearl stratus]

You get like Babybay and Jake who look like they could form a boy band.

Then you get like..

[uncut moon]

like can they use aderall and get away with it

[humble moth]

yeah

[pearl stratus]

Taimou.

Who looks like he could be every rapist on Criminal Minds.

[humble moth]

or handsome ass jake

[pearl stratus]

Then you get geeky Linkzr.

Who has the way out of his league girlfriend. Good on that kid.

[humble moth]

idk rawkus is pretty normal looking

[frozen yew]

Just his hair

Wich is awesome

And you will fight me if you say otherwise

[whole narwhal]

Afaik gaming tournaments do not test for drug use

[humble moth]

fleta looks like a villian in his picture

I think OWL does

they should if they want to be a league

[pearl stratus]

SBB looks like he's in a K-Pop group.

[frozen yew]

A unforgettable picture is Biggoose

[whole narwhal]

But is it game-legal to slam down a bunch of Rockstar Energy right before a match?

[humble moth]

probably not

[whole narwhal]

Really? Dumb

[pearl stratus]

No clue, till they post any form of rules for it.

It's a hard argument to make.

[humble moth]

they need to be sober for it to be a fair game

even just a caffiene boost is still an advantage

[pearl stratus]

Like you could be really obtuse and try and dictate something like gatorade is performance enhancing in sports because it replenishes electrolytes at a faster rate etc.

[whole narwhal]

I mean, energy drinks are completely legal with no age restrictions (even if it’s debatable whether they should be age restricted)

[humble moth]

but both teams have access to it

[pearl stratus]

Also its a individualized reaction.

[whole narwhal]

Yeah, exactly, anyone can drink an energy drink

[pearl stratus]

I slam down an energy drink or two and I'm not more focused.

I'm just jittery.

[humble moth]

some people are over sensitive to energy drinks so they can't drink it which makes them at a disadvantage

[viral bronze]

do they use adderall

[humble moth]

that just means you have a higher tolerance to caffiene endoken

[viral bronze]

like csgo pros

[humble moth]

I could drink like half a red bull and I'm jacked up

cause I never drink them

[pearl stratus]

I mean 90% of shit doctors will give you an adderall scrip.

[viral bronze]

maybe MG has adhd

[whole narwhal]

Shorter people have a slight, slight reflex advantage though, but they don’t need a division for people under 5’4”

[pearl stratus]

Which means its no longer a PED.

Because the league can't mandate you don't take a doctor prescribed drug.

[humble moth]

^

if you get caught faking scripts youre out

[pearl stratus]

It's like going to the doctor and getting a med. Marijuana card. You basically you're just "Hey sometimes I get nervous."

And most doctors are like "Yeah sure. here you go. Later."

[viral bronze]

arent the new people for shanghai korean

[whole narwhal]

I drink NOS after a 16oz cup of coffee for gaming, but the effects on me are likely psychological not physiological

I love caffeine

[humble moth]

if they were to get caught faking scripts it would be a big scandal and you would be banned from playing though, or fined and put on suspension just like a real sport

[pearl stratus]

It wouldn't be fake though.

[whole narwhal]

Probably legal trouble too

[humble moth]

if esports want to be taken seriously they need to be held to the highest standards

[pearl stratus]

Do you know how hard it is to actually prove someone has ADHD?

[whole narwhal]

Like actual legal trouble

[pearl stratus]

It'd never happen.

[humble moth]

not hard anymore

[pearl stratus]

They just throw the shit at kids by the handful now.

[humble moth]

parents just throw their kids on it is the problem

[pearl stratus]

Doesn't matter.

You try and stop someone in the league they just have to say prove it. And then request that they go back and look at every diagnosis for it the doctor has made.

[humble moth]

thats why they have a neutral doctor for just that purpose

thats what the NFL, NBA etc does

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, and they never have ped issues 😛

A solution that doesn't work isn't a good solution.

The NFL can't even stop players for beating women in elevators.

Not exactly who you go to for results.

[humble moth]

that doesnt affect gameplay

[whole narwhal]

^

[pearl stratus]

It provides extra adrenaline to the player.

[whole narwhal]

i lol’d tbh

[humble moth]

lol

too much testosterone

[pearl stratus]

NFL can't even care about PEDs because lately the newest PED is apparently murder.

[rough night]

people use the term... Mental Disorder ... as excuse for someone being a grade-A twat

[whole narwhal]

I browse stupid reddit comments to increase my aggression and testosterone before every game match

[humble moth]

hahaha

[pearl stratus]

Also, since you brought up what professional sports does.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/2015/04/20/mlbs-exemption-rate-for-adhd-drugs-highly-suspicious.html

😛

[humble moth]

i play solo comp queue for my aggression

[whole narwhal]

ooooo

[pearl stratus]

MLB still slings around adderall like its candy.

And hasn't ever stopped.

[humble moth]

baseball is dead, thats why I said NFL and NBA lol

they've been cheating since the game was invented

[whole narwhal]

Baseball’s such a cute sport though rip baseball

[pearl stratus]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000242017/article/report-adderall-remains-drug-of-choice-for-many-nfl-players

https://uproxx.com/sports/nfl-adderall-eben-britton/

[humble moth]

5 year artible

article

[rough night]

dont they also have weightlifting competitions for people who do take drugs... and another for people who dont

[humble moth]

im not saying it doesnt happen

[whole narwhal]

People cheat in every sport since forever though

[pearl stratus]

It took them 11 years to even attempt to ban it.

Just saying it doesn't make OWL more respectable or less.

[humble moth]

when those people do get caught they get fined and benched for a predetermined set of games

[pearl stratus]

Professional players get overplayed, undertested, and can do whatever they want.

Its how sports works.

[frozen yew]

Mg is really bad

Holy hell

[humble moth]

sleepy is really bad

[pearl stratus]

This is another situation where Undead went to McCree to try and solve problems.

And McCree is not good for this point.

[rough night]

MG is charging in like a GM... then performing like a plat

[pearl stratus]

I've never seen Diya play Zarya.

[humble moth]

that was a nice ult

[serene tendon]

that was great

[uncut moon]

what

was

that

grav

??????

[pearl stratus]

It was like 3 seconds too late.

Because they were all there. But not when he threw the ult lol

[uncut moon]

i saw a grav like that in quick play today

[pearl stratus]

I grav like that in QP a lot because I try to use my Gravs for Envirokills.

Because I want POTG, not the garbage DPS that follows it up with Q.

[uncut moon]

the tracer or the nano genji

^^

[pearl stratus]

Either of them. DPS aren't people.

[uncut moon]

you just have to convince the ana to nano you and you just right click them all in your grav

then you get potg

[pearl stratus]

Oh my god.

MG.

You actually did somethjing good.

What.

[uncut moon]

this is

painful to watch

😦

that pharah just has them so boxed up

[pearl stratus]

I've never seen Danteh on a Pharah, tbh.

So I don't think anyone expected it.

Also Undead way overextended trying to flank.

And got destroyed.

[humble moth]

I think he played him once last stage

but not regularly

[uncut moon]

why deadeye the pharah when she is not moving

lol

[brisk roost]

Finally MG did something lol

And yeah ikr lol

[pearl stratus]

I mean.

Diya did it.

But yeah lol

[brisk roost]

That's a waste of Deadeye

[pearl stratus]

Wow Diya.

Clutch shields.

[spring lintel]

Sf comp is so bad

[pearl cedar]

clutch fucking shields

[spring lintel]

Their tank line is so wtf

No rein zarya

[humble moth]

that could have been so big

[uncut moon]

was just

2 seconds too late

[pearl stratus]

Shanghai triple tank isn't bad.

[green trout]

What happned to gerguri?

[pearl stratus]

Probably because it takes so much less coordination than Dive.

@green trout Visas.

Like most of the new people.

[green trout]

I heard she was joining shanghai dragon

[spring lintel]

Using a proper comp? Nice

Dva/winston with hog is meh

[pearl stratus]

Hog feeds into Zarya so much too.

Because you hook someone they're gonna be shielded.

[humble moth]

they only got 1 kill

with 2 ults

[pearl stratus]

One got cancelled out by Lucio.

[humble moth]

2 ults that freeze people in place

[pearl stratus]

The lack of follow up on the earth shatter was sad though

[humble moth]

they should have targetted better

[frozen yew]

What was that?

[uncut moon]

that is so sad

soooo so sad

😦

[humble moth]

why did roshan turn away

wtf

[frozen yew]

That was pro play

The dva used the ult to force the rein to turn

[uncut moon]

:(((((((((((((

[spring lintel]

Who was fucking with MG in the back? Literally what lost them the game

[young sonnet]

dva ult

[brisk roost]

Wow 😦

[frozen yew]

And then rein shattered

[spring lintel]

Mg getting vision tunnel

[frozen yew]

Good job

[sly fiber]

classic combo

[pearl cedar]

sleeping living with 10 hp

[lean lily]

gdi

[pearl cedar]

after the shatter

[spring lintel]

If MG ulted the shatter

[pearl cedar]

how the fuck doe sthat happen

[brisk roost]

Teams I rooted for get stomped smh

[pearl cedar]

does*

embarassing..

[humble moth]

stop rooting for bad teams

[spring lintel]

They were busy with something in the back

[pearl cedar]

shanghai legit threw that map away on a silver platter

[brisk roost]

@humble moth Except Houston

[humble moth]

and if thats true stop rooting for houston cause I want them to win

lol

[pearl cedar]

diya hits a nasty grav followed by a NASTIER earth shatter

i think that was roshan;s best play

in like his entire OWL career

[brisk roost]

But I'm a Houston fan

[spring lintel]

Literally the whole team other than rein and zarya were vision tunneling in the back

[brisk roost]

Just like you

[pearl cedar]

and his team just fkin slept on it

[brisk roost]

XD!

[whole narwhal]

I’m only biased towards Spitfire because they’re actually Cloud 9 except I don’t care about the players on Spitfire at all

[humble moth]

@brisk roost we don't accept you, please root for NYX or London

[brisk roost]

@humble moth WHY NOT

[spring lintel]

They didnt have a tracer so wtf were they doing in the back?!

[brisk roost]

😂

[humble moth]

lol

[spring lintel]

Who was MG shooting at in the back

[pearl stratus]

Diya is not a horrible Zarya. I enjoy that.

[humble moth]

[frozen yew]

The lack of followup in the grav and shatter

[brisk roost]

Lets go Houston.

They gonna win next game now

[frozen yew]

That hurt my seoul

[spring lintel]

What happened? Did SF win?

[humble moth]

who do they play next?

[frozen yew]

Yes

[humble moth]

LA?

[pearl stratus]

Yeah 3-0, on map 4 now.

[frozen yew]

3-0 rn

[brisk roost]

LA Valiant

[frozen yew]

Next gonna be 4-0

[humble moth]

yeah thats an easy win

[brisk roost]

But I still feel nervous on Jake Tracer

[humble moth]

its important too

[brisk roost]

Cause I felt the same for Philly

I thought Houston was gonna get an easy win

[pearl stratus]

You thought Philly was an easy win?

[humble moth]

if they lose that puts LA in second place i believe

[pearl stratus]

I actually thought they'd lose to Philly.

[whole narwhal]

For who, Valiant or Dragons? Don’t both those teams suck? bottom of the barrel

[pearl stratus]

Philly's out of the gate Aggression in Stage 2 is just obscene.

[humble moth]

^

[brisk roost]

I was sleeping on Philly tbh

[frozen yew]

I thought they would be 3-2 to houston

[pearl stratus]

I was surprised at how bad they lost to London tonight.

Because London is notoriously passive.

[frozen yew]

They lost to philly because jake is a bad tracer

[brisk roost]

^^^

[frozen yew]

And they basically threw illios

[pearl stratus]

They had other issues than Jakes Tracer, just smarter play.

[brisk roost]

LA Valiant could pull a Philly if Jake does the same shit

[uncut moon]

wtf

[pearl stratus]

Shadowburn playing his Widow in exact counter to Linkzrs playstyle.

Was huge.

And wasted like a minute or two of time with Linkzr trying to find him

As he just pot shot tanks.

Also Philly got smart and started focusing on Houstons tanks a bit.

Muma and Coolmatt synergy super strong, if you disrupt it you cause major issues for Houston.

[frozen yew]

Philly shoudlve totally lost

[pearl stratus]

Especially Muma. Muma creates SO much room for his dps.

[frozen yew]

Illios was stupid

Lynkzer tried to use the tac visor with two tanks in his face

And no team backup

And jake just...got abused

And bullied

[pearl stratus]

I am confused why we haven't seen any Jake Soldier.

[frozen yew]

Me too

It was his original main if im not mistaken

[pearl stratus]

I'm not against him playing Tracer, if he becomes a good Tracer (which I think he will), it's going to make Houston super dangerous.

But he can't out Tracer a SBB/Carpe.

The soldier would probably trade bette.r

lmao

Danteh getting Mercy'd to death

[visual glen]

was that another random dva ult

[pearl stratus]

Sleepy almost de-Meching MG 1vc1.

[forest wharf]

Shanghai's next game is vs seoul

[pearl stratus]

I've never seen someone win so many sniper battles against Babybay.

[forest wharf]

[balmy wolf]

how good is 🌲 now?

[pearl stratus]

About the same as Stage 1.

Not all that impressive, sometimes pops off.

Still just holding a roster slot for Flower.

[idle beacon]

this is the last game for this week, right?

[pearl stratus]

Yeah

[idle beacon]

damn

[spring lintel]

How

Undead is a widow main if I am not wrong

[pearl stratus]

McCree.

But that feeds into Widow

Pretty easily.

[onyx shore]

wut

dallas fuel is now above outlaws in stage 2 table

[pearl stratus]

No they're not.

Oh wait, it hasn't updated in pins.

Nevermind.

Well at the moment they'll lose next week.

Because SF Shock plays a Widow.

And Florida has a good Widow too.

[onyx shore]

the stage 2 final will probably be korea vs korea again

[pearl stratus]

It's still early.

[uncut moon]

hoepfully not

i dont want to see london vs nyxl every month

[pearl stratus]

I think right now, despite them both getting relatively destroyed today, both Philly and Houston have good chances, so does LAG with the Fissure addition.

[uncut moon]

i want a team like fusion or valiant to make the playoffs for stage 2

[frozen yew]

Did they take energy drinks?

Wut was that

[pearl stratus]

I think LAV has an okay chance, they got the easy win off of Dallas this week.

Which should boost their confidence.

[spring lintel]

I am actually baffled how miraculous youngsters didn’t get into OWL

Not a single player

[pearl stratus]

Nepotism, letting the coach make bad decisions and having no one override him.

[frozen yew]

Lav has a chance?

They are number 4 in standings

Wut they might as well be as good as houston

I think it will be really close

[silk linden]

@BAAAM#7313 1 player now

[spring lintel]

Most of shanghai dragons players come from a shitty team

[frozen yew]

And i have no idea who will win

[quasi stump]

pls

[spring lintel]

Like a shitty mid tier team

[pearl stratus]

LAV has played 2 of the worst teams in the league

So their stats are a little inflated.

[frozen yew]

I dont think so

[pearl stratus]

They played Seoul in Week 1 (not easy), then Shanghai (easy) and then San Fran (easy)

[frozen yew]

I think they are really good

Shanghai(free win) *

[pearl stratus]

I'm not saying they're bad, I'm saying we have to see how they handle some of the stronger teams before I make a decision.

Dallas is a hard call.

Because Dallas is a decent team, so I want to say they did well

But really Dallas just gets destroyed by any team that can field a decent Widow now.

Kariv never really had to swap. He just sat there like "Lolol I used to be Mercy"

And pushed Dallas back the entire game.

[frozen yew]

What was that transcendence?

[pearl stratus]

Freefeels? He just uses it on a coin flip.

He's in Plat with MG.

I could replace Freefeel as Zen, not speaking any chinese, and probably do better.

[idle beacon]

plat?

MG plat?

[spring lintel]

Dude am I just being too critic

Mg is so bad

Wtf

[pearl stratus]

MG is literally garbage.

[frozen yew]

Im low plat lol

[idle beacon]

ye but he isn't really plat? 😄

[frozen yew]

I probably am better than mg

[pearl stratus]

He's not really plat.

But he plays like in OWL.

[spring lintel]

He plays like a plat

[idle beacon]

well alot play like a plat

[spring lintel]

Not like MG

[torpid charm]

I need to get better at OWL and learn Chinese so I can play for Shanghai and save them

[pearl stratus]

MG has made... Maybe? 1 good play that I can think of in all of OWL so far.

[uncut moon]

MG is probably the worst DVA in the league

[idle beacon]

well soon bae geguri is here

[quasi stump]

undead you animal

[spring lintel]

Yeah definitely better

[torpid charm]

MG = Ass, Freefeel = ass, Altering = eh

[pearl stratus]

Altering is okay.

[idle beacon]

but then again .. they all have coaches

[spring lintel]

^

[pearl stratus]

Roshan is.. okayish

[idle beacon]

i wonder what they're doing

[spring lintel]

Roshan and the dps duo are okay

[idle beacon]

they seem to be freakin bad aswell

[pearl stratus]

Altering at least has gotten better.

So even if he's not great, he does get better.

[quasi stump]

undead you ANIMAL

[torpid charm]

put me in MG's place RIGHT NOW

[pearl stratus]

MG and Freefeel haven't gotten any better.

At all.

[torpid charm]

I would learn how to be a better support just to take Freefeel's goddamn place

[spring lintel]

Dude fuck this camera work

I wanted to see that play

[quasi stump]

why were they following tracer running away

[spring lintel]

I wanted to see that

[uncut moon]

I wanted to see the tracer run away

[idle beacon]

but ey

mg and freefeel can like shit on your opiniom

they earned 50k anyway 😃

[open bolt]

rip dragons

[spring lintel]

Any educated person gets more than that lol

[idle beacon]

in 6 months?

sure dude

sure

[spring lintel]

Who told you it’s in 6 months?

[idle beacon]

where tf do you live? norway?

[spring lintel]

They have yearly contracts

[brisk roost]

What about Norway?

[uncut moon]

average anual salary in london uk is £32k

[brisk roost]

Norway is nice yo lol

[uncut moon]

so 50k US is not bad for someone playing video games

[idle beacon]

a mod here said it's per season

not per year

[spring lintel]

The mod doesnt know much then

[idle beacon]

so ur a mr.knowitall >

?

[spring lintel]

Sure

[uncut moon]

'any educated person' most people coming out of university will still start on a job around £30-40k unless it's a really specialised job

[spring lintel]

I wouldn’t destroy my future for money like this. Unless it’s the best option I got.

Probably a couple of years and it will die out

[idle beacon]

and nothing against norway .. you just earn alot money there .. but ye, all other stuff is expensve. never said norway sucks 😃 .. .
i've met a dude on a lan .. he threw out 1.2k euro .. on 1 weekend .. and said 'nah .. ain't no thang'

[onyx shore]

hey hey

[nimble egret]

Anyone recieved the Junkrat OWL skin from twitch?

[brisk roost]

I wanna go to Norway one day tbh

[onyx shore]

do not forget that all their living expenses are free

so that 50k is their disposable income

[brisk roost]

Damn 0-4'd

[open bolt]

what a surprise

[brisk roost]

Triple 0-4'd

Just fucking wow

[torpid charm]

WELL, both of my teams got shut out today.

[open bolt]

04watch

[torpid charm]

[brisk roost]

All of the teams I rooted for got stomped

Smh

[quasi stump]

[pastel phoenix]

Shanghai SNEKS

[onyx shore]

you dont have to pay electricity,water,food,internet

[spring lintel]

Can we stop sucking danteh’s dick now?

[brisk roost]

@torpid charm They all played ass tbh

[onyx shore]

you probably pay for your phone bills,but that can't be that much

[spring lintel]

Playing against plats, ofc you are gonna preform great.

Being an OWL player is like a cool long vacation

[nimble egret]

Anyone recieved the Junkrat OWL skin from twitch?

[spring lintel]

@nimble egret no

[torpid charm]

@brisk roost I know, it hurts. I don't know why Philly shuts down when it's London but it's whatever

[spring lintel]

I think you only get it if you paid. Not sure though.

[brisk roost]

@torpid charm True and my fellow Houston got rekt again only cause Jake's Tracer needs work but his Hog gameplay were spot on

[torpid charm]

Diya did gr8 on Zarya

[forest raven]

Standings at the end of week 2

Stage 2 Standings: [W-D-L] (Overall Record)

Seoul Dynasty: 4-0 [13-0-3] (11-3)

New York Excelsior: 3-1 [13-0-4] (12-2)

London Spitfire: 3-1 [12-0-6] (10-4)

Philadelphia Fusion: 3-1 [11-0-6] (9-5)

Los Angeles Valiant: 3-1 [9-1-6] (10-4)

Los Angeles Gladiators: 2-2 [10-0-6] (6-8)

Houston Outlaws: 2-2 [9-0-9] (9-5)

Dallas Fuel: 2-2 [8-0-8] (5-9)

San Francisco Shock: 1-3 [6-0-10] (4-10)

Boston Uprising: 1-3 [4-0-12] (7-7)

Florida Mayhem: 0-4 [2-0-14] (1-13)

Shanghai Dragons: 0-4 [1-1-14] (0-14)

[spring lintel]

Houston got fucked cause they are inferior, not because of jake.

INFERIOR

[brisk roost]

@spring lintel Nah it was spot on

[torpid charm]

Muma is my #1 fav non-Fusion bby

[brisk roost]

Jake was complete shitty as Tracer

[spring lintel]

So is your team

Simple

[brisk roost]

Nah

[torpid charm]

:zaryalol:

[forest raven]

Baaam you're an asshole

[spring lintel]

LOL i am just kidding

[brisk roost]

Did you even see Muma play yo

[idle beacon]

_Players in Overwatch League are guaranteed a minimum salary of $50,000. There have been few reports aside from this one about how high above that some teams have gone, but 17-year-old Jay “sinatraa” Won was signed by NRG Esports (whose team is now known as the San Francisco Shock) for a reported $150,000 per year._

[spring lintel]

I am a nyxl fan

[idle beacon]

150k

[brisk roost]

That explains it

Lol

[idle beacon]

for sinatraa oO

[spring lintel]

It’s because of his clause or some shit

[idle beacon]

The average annual salaries for players participating in the Overwatch League is $80,000-$120,000 according to a report Wednesday by Daily eSports.

[spring lintel]

Oh that’s pretty lit

[brisk roost]

That's awesome yo

[spring lintel]

Seagull is probably like freaking 200k

[brisk roost]

It must be awesome if you're an OWL player

[uncut moon]

it will depend on the players worth to the organisation i guess

[spring lintel]

There aren’t many players that everyone would pay a lot for

I would see dafran going for trillions

Damn i wish dafran would go pro

That dva emote is the best

[brisk roost]

LA Valiant vs LA Glads is when you don't know who to cheer for since they're both LA 😂

[onyx shore]

well if you're like xqc,you also make money from streaming

valiant probably win

there's no mercy for unkoe to throw

[idle beacon]

i find it sad that no german is in OWL season1

[onyx shore]

i wonder why seagull stopped streaming

[idle beacon]

belgiums, frenchies, alienateds, sweds, russians, danes

and uks

but no 1 german

and no dutchie ? Oo

[onyx shore]

belgium? french?

[uncut moon]

soon is french

[idle beacon]

i've written frenchies

didn't i?

[onyx shore]

ah i thought he was talking about team

[idle beacon]

nah, players

alienated = finns

i call them so because of their language

it's so freakin odd 😄

[spring lintel]

Why is the audience not leaving? They are all paid actors

[onyx shore]

the germans are represented by internethulk award

[idle beacon]

@spring lintel u fuckin kiddin me?

@thick falconediaz#5606 yea but still

[brisk roost]

@spring lintel Didn't like 90% of them left lol

[idle beacon]

i mean .. look at other games .. csgo for exsample .. lots of strong german players

[onyx shore]

well,probably not considered good enough

[spring lintel]

Not what I am seeing

[idle beacon]

i doubt german has trash players in OW

[brisk roost]

Dude I literally saw empty seats behind Puckett lol

Like only a few people were there left

[spring lintel]

Oh ok my bad

[idle beacon]

you all know owl is makin money with tickets

saying it's a paid audience is a money loss

oh damn

dynasty vs dragons

boring af

babybay and danteh takin it 1vs1 with equ and carpe .. cool

fissure takin apart valiants

i like fissure

yes .. i like 1 player of every team .. from houston .. it is ..

hm ok not every team

ah wait

spree

zarya ❤

[whole mulch]

no love for j@kerat?!

[idle beacon]

nah man

[whole mulch]

I have to love him. He is in my house with a riptire.

If I do not love him, I go kaboom.

[idle beacon]

i don't hate him

even defended him earlier

[whole mulch]

today was 4-0verwatch?

[brisk roost]

Yup all of them

[idle beacon]

i just didn't like the hype about him in stage1

but now blaming him for the loss

is just wrong

[pearl stratus]

Eh I can't be mad about hype. Not something the players control really.

[whole mulch]

Seoul took 2nd place?

Woah

[pearl stratus]

No more Mercy meta.

[idle beacon]

i still didn't like that junkrat 1trick stuff 😃

ye salty .. it's all korean again, the top3

[whole mulch]

NYXL will probably suffer a bit from mercy nerf

Ark was one of the best Mercy's in the league

[idle beacon]

he was strong as ana, today

i can heal as ana .. no problem

but those sleep dars

nah .. not my cup of teah

tea

and ark did awesome sleeps today

[whole mulch]

Ark played ana today?

[idle beacon]

ye

alteast on 1 map

which i watched

didn't watch the whole game

[whole mulch]

ah weird I thought jjonak was an ana main

[idle beacon]

wait i'll check

damn

i thought you could check what hero players have played

[whole mulch]

Eh you can rewatch the VOD I guess

I know ark is a lucio main and jjonak is an ana main

but it could be that jjonak played zen and ark went ana

[idle beacon]

ye jjonak was zen

damn .. nothing to do now 😦

what do you guys think of brigitte?

[brisk roost]

Seems cool though I think she has too many abilities lol

[blissful sand]

Did you know: Danteh was an old minecraft youtuber before a pro OWL player?

Mmmm 🤔

[tawny sigil]

yay another 1 sided day right after another

[tall sierra]

Shanghai need Geguri more than ever now? Or too late to save the sinking ship?

[onyx shore]

for stage 2? too late

stage 3? it's possible,but they will probably be mid-bottom team

[onyx shore]

man,i've seen the outlaws vs nyxl vods,that spectating on king's row was awful

libero and sbb diving the retreating enemy heroes? let's focus on dva sitting on a payload

[tall sierra]

Ikr ^

[spring lintel]

LOL XQC LIVE THROWING

[whole mulch]

?

[sonic birch]

what? he threw?

[spring lintel]

He is losing it

Border line throwing

[sonic birch]

lol

[spring lintel]

I would say he might fully throw soon

[wanton raven]

btw im ramennoodles

[whole mulch]

how's he throwing

I went to his stream and he was kinda feeding as soldier

but didn't look intentional

[cobalt brook]

is anyone getting OWL tokens for watching still?

i stopped getting them

[slim summit]

I got all 12 from today

I didn't get any from last Friday / Saturday

seems that people have problems often

[dull socket]

Got all mine for the last two days

Got the OWL Junkrat too just fine

[whole mulch]

I got mine today

It's 16 tokens per day right?

[slim summit]

12 to 15

4 times 3 standard matches, up to 3 tiebreakers

[spring lintel]

4-0verwatch

[tall sierra]

NYXL +30
Seoul +19
London + 21

Shanghai -43

Top 3 as expected....runner up 4th being LA Valiant....as predicted...

[supple prism]

hope next seasons mixes stuff up alot

[slim summit]

I expect Seoul will fall out of the top 3 and Valiant will be the top team in their division

Seoul is getting inflated by some easy matches at the start of this stage just like they were last stage

and when that stopped happening, they plummeted

[onyx shore]

doesn matter,the final stage will be korea vs korea anyways

[feral wing]

^^

wait what

houston got 4-0d?

damn

and here I was predicting the 3-2 to houston

lol

[onyx shore]

houston outlaws is either 7th or 8th place in stage 2 standings

[forest raven]

https://i.imgur.com/ZXJswHj.png

[onyx shore]

2 wins 2 losses with 9 maps victory and 9 maps defeat

[feral wing]

harsh week for houston

[onyx shore]

next week they will face mayhem

ez 4-0

[supple prism]

Next week should be better for them

Rough for Philly though

[onyx shore]

but they also gonna face valiant

yeah

seoul and new york

jeez

[feral wing]

as a fusion fan

r.i.p

although fusion have beat new york

I predicted that dallas fuel will pass la gladiators in week 3, wonder if that'll come true

it probably will

[supple prism]

Fuel might go well

[feral wing]

I mean

gladiators with a record of 6-8 and fuel with the 5-9

fuel have an easy week next we ek

week

most likely 2 wins

[onyx shore]

wow

actually

[feral wing]

which would give them a 7-9 record

and gladiators have a rough one

[onyx shore]

seoul never meet fusion last stage

but

[feral wing]

most likely 2 losses

[onyx shore]

fusion beat new york on stage 1

[feral wing]

which would give them a 6-10

[forest raven]

Overall record doesn't factor into stage standing

[onyx shore]

yeah

[feral wing]

Im talking about the actual standings

which include every damn stage

[onyx shore]

i kinda doubt fuel can beat shock cleanly

like 3-1 or 4-0

they can beat mayhem 4-0 though

[feral wing]

dallas fuel have been playing much better

although they should've beat valiant

[tight vault]

xQc still sucks

[feral wing]

I mean

[onyx shore]

still kinda shaky,but better than the previous stage

[feral wing]

did you see soon's K/D?

it was like 100-20

insane

[supple prism]

Boston is all iffy next 2 weeks

[feral wing]

I think we'll see dallas take 7th place before the stage is over to be completely honest

Im still shocked at how a team that, on paper, is that good

could lose that hard

to teams that were considered worse than them

[onyx shore]

i wonder if there will be texas derby this stage

[feral wing]

oh boy

[tight vault]

a wat

[feral wing]

oh boy

week 4 we'll see dallas vs fusion, Ill just start making my popcorn already

[onyx shore]

twitch chat would explode if fuel won and xqc talk shit back to muma

[feral wing]

well

[onyx shore]

which is kinda unlikely

but

[feral wing]

there isnt one

so

we wont see dallas vs houston

[onyx shore]

ah

this is kinda weird isnt it

[feral wing]

Im STILL shocked at the losses though

like

fusion got 4-0d

[onyx shore]

why a team only have to play 10 times?

like

why not 11 ?

[feral wing]

houston got 4-0d

[forest raven]

I don't like that each stage isn't a full round robin

[onyx shore]

yeah

[forest raven]

I get it because of scheduling and such

But I still don't like it

[onyx shore]

it's like a big disadvantage for the team that doesnt get to play against the dragons

[forest raven]

Or Shock or Mayhem

[feral wing]

or an advantage for those who wont have to face the koreans

[tight vault]

yall what if shanghai starts winning all of a sudden

[onyx shore]

nah

[feral wing]

they'd still be far behind

[onyx shore]

wont happen this stage

stage 3 maybe

[feral wing]

I mean

with a secord of 0-14

record*

[onyx shore]

they probably can win against mayhem and shock

but they wont win against like gladiators or uprising

[tight vault]

i mean their the best at losing

which is good

i guess

[feral wing]

shanghai is like a grandmaster team vs professional esports players

[onyx shore]

even with those new koreans at their squad

only diya and undead are owl material

the other 4 just isnt

[tight vault]

i still want just a owl team thats just bronze players

[onyx shore]

so you add 3 koreans and 1 chinese

[feral wing]

I would love to see the teams suddenly start picking up bronze players

[onyx shore]

you still need to solve the coms problem

[tight vault]

ima stick this mic

right in my mouth

[onyx shore]

well

at this point i applaud the dragons that they dont just throw the match away like picking attack torb/symetra

[feral wing]

Why didnt they just pick up miraculous youngster..

[tight vault]

they try

[feral wing]

they didnt though

[onyx shore]

i thought most of MY squad was underage?

[tight vault]

i mean i saw a bronze team beat a gm team before so anythings possible

[forest raven]

One or two players are

[feral wing]

but seriously

miraculous youngster played so well against lunatic hai

[forest raven]

I know Leave is underage

[feral wing]

its surprising that 0 of the players got picked up

[forest raven]

Nepotism

[feral wing]

didnt leave retire?

[frail remnant]

The longer and longer OWL goes on

[forest raven]

Yeah Leave retired

[frail remnant]

The more I realise how inept the analyst panel is

[onyx shore]

i'll take inept analyst over shitty observer

[forest raven]

How dare you sully the trio's name like that 😡

[onyx shore]

like holyshit

[frail remnant]

Literally they never predict anything correctly. They reuse boring boilerplate reasons why teams win

[onyx shore]

most of the best moments are on after-match replays

[forest raven]

Bren, Sideshow and Reinforce are poggers if only for the memes they have

[onyx shore]

or kilfeed

[frail remnant]

Sideshow annoys me the most. Reinforced is alright

[onyx shore]

puckett is fine

[forest raven]

I mean Puckett's the host

[onyx shore]

but i kinda wish they rotate him with rachel

[forest raven]

Not an analyst

[frail remnant]

Puckett is always fine

[onyx shore]

or goldenboy

[forest raven]

Seltzer you mean? @thick falconediaz#5606

[onyx shore]

any other week is fine

yeah

[frail remnant]

And what’s this with London vs Philly

[onyx shore]

i also wonder why deman and jason kaplan isn't in the caster lineup

[frail remnant]

London brings out their most used roster ever and the whole analyst panel are like: OMG it’s a brand new roster never seen before

[feral wing]

lol

still though

surprising that philly got 4-0d

[forest raven]

Who's deman

ZP and JKap should be casting OWL too

[feral wing]

After philly beat houston I expected them to put on a good performance against the sptifire

spitfire*

[frail remnant]

Then the analysts acted like Birdring hasn’t played for months

[tight vault]

timthetatman for overwatch league caster

[frail remnant]

When... he’s mostly in every game minus the one last week where they had hooreg

[onyx shore]

@forest raven jason kaplan's casting partner,the guy that is kinda old

[frail remnant]

Literally sideshow mainly is not good. I’d love someone new and exciting to be put in the analyst team with a history in actually playing professional

[onyx shore]

they should probably ask a pro player to sit at analyst desk

or a team's coach

[forest raven]

Has deman ever casted OW?

Reinforce is on the analyst desk

[onyx shore]

yeah

[frail remnant]

Ex coaches would be a great pick for analyst

[onyx shore]

with jkap

[forest raven]

I want Uber/JKap to be reunited

[onyx shore]

http://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Deman

[forest raven]

Best casting duo in OW history imo

[onyx shore]

the fact that zp is not at owl is a disgrace

[forest raven]

ikr

[onyx shore]

like,semmler is improving

but do you really pick semmler over zp? really?

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/tisrobin311/status/970227910203228160

Robin K (@tisrobin311)

Head Coach of NYXL (Pavane) : "We were confident that our focusing of Tracer/Genji would be better than Houston. And yeah, Jake's Tracer is....... you know...."

:sweat_smile:

• Pavane is the head coach of NYXL and the same guy who coached South Korea in World Cup 2017. -

Twitter

[onyx shore]

https://youtu.be/fU7eg9PzEfo?t=173 --> still my favorite Mr X moments

[sullen berry]

TIL overwatch contenders plays the anniversary intro music at quarter speed at the end of each map

https://youtu.be/07e9h6thnnY?t=10m48s (change playback speed to 2x)

[strong parrot]

Houston Outlaws 0 - 4 New York Excelsior

Houston Outlaws

clockwork
Muma
Spree
LiNkzr
Rawkus
Boink
JAKE
coolmatt

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

967 3 4 2
949 25 28 18
939 5 8 6
858 34 37 16
848 19 36 18
810 5 30 16
711 27 31 20
331 10 23 0

New York Excelsior

JJoNak
ArK
MekO
Libero
Saebyeolbe
Mano
janus

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1550 30 17 22
1277 10 13 18
1077 33 22 0
1037 44 30 16
987 47 19 26
944 20 17 8
871 8 11 6

MVP

JJoNak/Zenyatta: 1550 Rating

Play of the game

Muma as Reinhardt on King's Row: 4 Kills

Overwatch League - Season 1 - Stage 2

Watch POTG

Shanghai Dragons 0 - 4 San Francisco Shock

Shanghai Dragons

Altering
FiveKing
uNdeAD
Freefeel
Diya
mg
Roshan

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1070 6 29 27
964 1 10 7
913 41 40 28
891 2 24 12
781 36 33 28
729 29 34 0
641 16 48 15

San Francisco Shock

Sleepy
Danteh
babybay
Nevix
nomy
dhaK

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1420 32 22 26
1137 60 24 32
1133 45 21 31
1101 39 20 1
1012 32 26 18
991 5 24 18

MVP

Sleepy/Moira: 1451 Rating

Play of the game

Nevix as D.Va on Nepal: 5 Kills

Overwatch League - Season 1 - Stage 2

Watch POTG

[tight vault]

27Kills 31deaths= JAKE

[frail remnant]

jjonak again my god

its decided altering > nomy

[tight vault]

does that say someone on shanghai dragons

got 1 kill

[frail remnant]

surely not over the whole thing

[tight vault]

i think its over the whole thing

[frail remnant]

just checked the London vs Fusion match, It can't be I swear Profit got > 28 kills

He must have, you get more than that playing dps in just 1 match usually

Then again they were short games

[tight vault]

still 1 kill in a map/round is bad

[frail remnant]

shocking

fiveking is healer tho

just still

[tight vault]

Freefeel plays um

[frail remnant]

zen

usually

fiveking plays mercy/lucio

[tight vault]

so both the healers combined got 3 kills

[frail remnant]

zen should be popping off

[tight vault]

im suprised

every match was a 4-0

[brisk roost]

True lol

Houston will have an ez week next week tbh

They can fare against the Valiant tbh

[indigo barn]

idk man they couldn't even beat fusion

this is their first time vs valiant

[brisk roost]

I don't wanna let my hopes go down just yet

In all honesty just have Jake as Hog since it's actually working well

Also I slept on Fusion tbh

I thought it was an ez win for Houston

[torpid charm]

a day of shutouts = sad day in the OWL

[young sonnet]

Wonder if dragons will beat boston after their recent performances? 🤔

[torpid charm]

I hope so, I just want the Dragons to win. I thought they had it yesterday but like half of the team played so poorly

I was far from disapponted with Roshan's performance last night

[brisk roost]

That'd be a very sad day for Boston tbh xD!

[young sonnet]

I mean when MG fat fingered that ult or whatever the fuck he did that just screams to me that they simply don't care

[brisk roost]

Thought I hope they won't play ass like what MG and Freefeel did

[young sonnet]

Would love to be a fly on the wall sometimes just to see what it's like behind closed doors with them.

[torpid charm]

I wish I could replace MG because watching him play D.va makes me wanna die

[magic zinc]

I want Mendo to play :(

Give him a run over Jake against a bottom-half team it cant be the end of the world

I know they said they don't want to but what are they gonna do, leave him on the bench?

[vestal mortar]

They want to give all their subs playtime so they at least have some experience when they need to step up, have you still not watched the latest episode of Focus @magic zinc ? 😛

[magic zinc]

Called out again

[vestal mortar]

smh

[magic zinc]

I'll watch it now

I forgot how well made this show is

"Please kill Coolmatt please!" okay that got me

[soft jetty]

thoughts on jake over clockwork or clockwork over jake

cause jakes tracer is garvage

[torpid charm]

Jake is mad because Jake is bad at playing Tracer

[brisk roost]

Clockwork over Jake ez

Lol

[shy wind]

Idk why houston just play anti dive or quad tank with jake

and dive with clockwork

or put jake on soldier with dive

[tight vault]

does anyone have a spare

20 million so we can get a bronze overwatch league team

[magic zinc]

Anti-Dive got weaker after the Mercy nerf and Quad Tank is map dependant so there's that, its why people thought Houston wouldn't do well this stage

[forest wharf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/81w1g4/diya_and_fivekings_message_to_fans_regarding/ rip

[tight vault]

😦

[torpid charm]

I'm crying

[balmy nimbus]

Shanghai Dragons LUL

[obtuse spoke]

i dont ever wanna see jake on tracer again

[brisk roost]

😭

[torpid charm]

fucking same

[brisk roost]

Count me in

His Tracer brings his whole team down smh

[obtuse spoke]

https://youtu.be/lM_Y_AX6b8s?t=4m47s

mykl best tracer

[slim summit]

what are

the transfer leaks

I see a bunch of threads on /r/cow talking about their authenticity

but wtf are they actually

[indigo barn]

What are you guys even talking about, Jake on tracer vs the best anti-tracer in the league is a 1000IQ play

[brisk roost]

😂

[torpid charm]

Fusion faces Seoul on Thursday, my boys need this W

[faint phoenix]

your boys Seoul or Fusion?

[brisk roost]

Seems like Fusion might have a hard time

But they can stay strong

[torpid charm]

London I guess are the people we can't beat

I think the main problem is synergy, who works best with who

[indigo barn]

so fusion has been 4-0'ed by london twice now

but they've beaten nyxl 3-2