watch stevo show up on like florida
#esports-discussion
bitter mountain
cobalt brook
no way
pearl stratus
I think the majority of the remaining pick ups for most teams are going to be more specialist oriented.
cobalt brook
one tricks would be so boring to watch in OWL
they'd get immediately countered and steamrolled
white dock
cobalt brook
which is not unlike what happens to stevo in ranked
magic zinc
There's no room for actual one-tricks in OWL, Spree for example was picked up for Zarya but he plays an ok D.va
magic zinc
If he only could play Zarya that'd be a bad pick up
cobalt brook
any player that can only play one hero doesn't belong in OWL
pearl stratus
Agree FIre, but he's not going to be subbed in ever for his DVa.
They recruited him -just- for his Zarya.
But of course he needs to be able to switch if needed.
bitter mountain
I think the valiant are waiting for zarya meta to come back
cobalt brook
i'm surprised we don't see her more considering how much Junkrat there is
magic zinc
Oh yeah true, but he offers something else when Zarya doesnt work
not like its a thrown map in that case
pearl stratus
Comparitively Junkrat is not -that- present in OWL.
magic zinc
Not top-tier but it works
bitter mountain
Junk seems to be run on outlaws and a few of the korean teams
ya'll think dafran will ever show up
or kajabi
kabaji*
frail charm
PHILLY WILL NOT BE STOPPED
scarlet spear
not really sure about kabaji.. seems like a good player but theres just better options probably
bitter mountain
real talk
with the addition of sayaplayer and florida playing how they are right now, taking maps off korean teams
you think they can beat tier 1-2 teams>?
scarlet spear
maybe, we'll see
feral wing
now that fusion beat outlaws
bitter mountain
you think barcode will get in
vestal berry
Has shanghai won anything yet?
feral wing
not yet
bitter mountain
genguri carry
feral wing
genguri
bitter mountain
awesome will be there too
faint phoenix
@feral wing as a spitfire fan who has bee watching all of spitfires games, I can see a lot of people possibly beating London Spitfire ._.
gaunt acorn
geguri won't play until stage 3
feral wing
that reverse sweep was beautiful.
gaunt acorn
meaning no kings row
feral wing
oof @faint phoenix
faint phoenix
ye
Reverse sweep was beautiful
Fusion have been playing well but their style has usually been somewhat predictable. Given this I was thinking of favoring London in the Saturday match, but then I recalled that London has recently had two pretty terrible defenses on Kings Row and then on Route 66 so I'm going to say that the match is up in the air
cobalt brook
Florida had some interesting strategies with regard to pushing in but their ultimate use on King's Row was miserable
actually the d.va self destructs from both sides were terrible
looked like they didn't practice that at all
there was one just on the ground near point (hitting no one) and another on a roof top (hitting no one)
torpid charm
reverse sweeeeeeeep 
Philly's style is so predictable because they can barely do anything except dive most of the time
vestal mortar
๐ข
silk linden
That's old patch, but still
Linkzr got outplayed on ilios too, and Rawkus was getting killed too soon too often on route 66
indigo barn
Fusion beat outlaws 3-2 in stage 1 didnโt they
silk linden
@indigo barn yes
pearl stratus
SDB picking up new heroes helped, especially with the passive way he plays them.
Looking back at the match it looked to me like houston prepped more for an Eqo / Carpe set up.
Like his Widow play on ruins was really smart. he played it passively, didn't even try to engage Linkzr until he had an advantage. Just kept pot shotting tanks.
But methodical/passive is basically the definition of Shadowburns playstyle.
idle beacon
@pearl stratus you know what's weird?
silk linden
Both London and Houston kept running zenyatta against Sombra and lost because of it
idle beacon
@pearl stratus people figure out just now that sdb is a intelligent player .. i've said this a month ago ๐
pearl stratus
I've known he's intelligent, you can tell based off his insane mastery of the games mechanics.
silk linden
Philly did too, but they had infrasight to counter it
pearl stratus
He's just boring af to watch most of the time.
Whereas Eqo is like some weeaboo anime sword fighter whipping the blade out and swinging constantly.
He's the more entertaining visual player.
At least to me.
pearl stratus
Mine is more about who I'm watching.
If its an NYXL game
They could leave the camera on SBB literally 100% of the time.
And I'd be happy.
The dudes reaction timing and tracking is just obscene. He's such a monster.
pearl stratus
I like watching Jake on Houston, not because he's great to watch (since mechanically he's weak) but I like watching and trying to figure out his thought process.
But watching Linkzr when he's in his groove on Widow is good too.
I.E. Volkskaya.
And grappling over the building to kill the two supports.
idle beacon
@pearl stratus i've watched carefully at jake, when the camera was on him
he seems having some mimmicks n stuff which you have when abusing amphe
pearl stratus
IIRC its caffeine gum he's chewing or something like that.
Because otherwise he sleeps all the time
idle beacon
like .. eatin a chewing gum as fast as a machine gun fires shots .. or blinkin with his eyes tons of times .. and other mimmikcs
pearl stratus
At least thats what I've seen mentioned.
idle beacon
a caffeine gum? ๐ฎ
pearl stratus
Yeah, super common.
idle beacon
nasteh
pearl stratus
When I worked really long retail hours when we were understaffed when I was younger I had a bunch of it.
idle beacon
prolly caffeine combined with ritalin / adderall crap
pearl stratus
It's gross, but it works.
But I was putting in like 75-80 hour weeks, so I needed it.
idle beacon
pay attention when libero is in the camera.. or some other players .. pimples af .. and other stuff. you can't tell me you get this crap from caffeine only ๐
lol 75-80hrs
humble escarp
Do they not go through drug testing, though?
pearl stratus
It's caffeine.
I'd be willing to bet for the average person its detrimental to play more than helpful.
humble escarp
I know I showed up randomly haha just joined and had to wait 10 minutes so I've been watching your discussion .
pearl stratus
Since jittery + the level of hand eye coordination required is a bad recipe.
Also its hearsay so it could be entirely false.
idle beacon
@humble escarp doesn't seem like it
@pearl stratus you sayin amph would be bad for gamin?
you're
pearl stratus
For the average person I would assume so, the jittery/jerky movements aren't great for precision. I'm not saying thats blanket for everyone.
But its the equivalent of people getting mad at like... a snowboarder for smoking pot.
idle beacon
isn't it boosting your focus concentration?
atleast that's what the meds are made for ๐
humble escarp
It is, but ultimately if you don't have the mechanical skills anyway it won't help you very much I don't think
idle beacon
about the eye/hand coordination
the ones being like you say jittery / jerky .. they could be such candidates
striker for exsample isn't jittery at all
pearl stratus
Caffeine does help focus yes. But its on a drastically lower level than a standard amphetamine prescribed for something like ADHD.
pearl stratus
I understand it watching them because I'm the same way
I'm basically always hitting a button.
Even if its just spamming the strafes back and forth with some crouching.
But for me its just because I want to keep my fingers moving so if something happens I'm already "going".
At least mentally.
idle beacon
and again my question .. is the stream a little faster than original? like it always looks like when spectating a soldier, his firerate is slight faster than when i play myself
strafing back / forth .. crouching yea
i've done so in other games
completly stopped that in ow
dunno why :/
pearl stratus
It did seem to go faster on Wednesday. Last night seemed more normal to me.
But it was hard to tell since the first match was what..
Like 3 hours alone? lol
idle beacon
so it's not only me thinkin that it's a lil faster
but back to the topic
i've missed the first 2 maps
actually 3
seen illios .. but missed the rest ๐ฆ
how intense was it?
hello?
indigo barn
Not intense at all
Shadowburn slices through the outlaws like Swiss cheese
If the man has a blade itโs gg
silk linden
these guys have a good attitude
I don't see them being too discouraged by their loss
the joke question/serious question alternation is a good interview format, makes things less depressing
balmy wolf
xqc is better than jake
silk linden
...they play different heroes
balmy wolf
ok...?
silk linden
it's an unfair comparison
silk linden
not really
silk linden
apples and oranges
they're both good players in my opinion
they both do good for their team
grizzled mulch
Jake statistically IS a Junkrat one trick
silk linden
main tanks and dps do different things. In most games it can be argued that Muma does more immediately useful things for his team than Jake
balmy wolf
muma is trash
silk linden
lol no
balmy wolf
lol yes
indigo barn
Linkzr carries jake
silk linden
has barcode played pro OW or do people say they want her in the OWL just like they say about every other streamer?
I mean it's not like she isn't skilled, but skill is not just the only ticket to OWL
silk linden
to be fair, so did many OWL breakout stars
grizzled mulch
even lower than what you think, friend
silk linden
but yeah I guess there's a big talent pool to pull from outside the league anyway
grizzled mulch
EU and KR remains to be digging
Geguri is an edge case and even then I fear that the failure machine that is SHD will just well, make the whole thing a farcical affair
silk linden
yeah the league colud easily be twice as big
grizzled mulch
well it depends on the amount of buyers and such
there was 13 buyers
but the league wanted 12
silk linden
season 1 is doing well though
grizzled mulch
it is
silk linden
more people might be interested now that it's not a gamble
grizzled mulch
Team Liquid, Echo Fox, FlyQuest and 100 Thieves might be next on the table
silk linden
though I guess it can be hard coming in now that the top talents have been all picked
grizzled mulch
eh there are still plenty of talents left to pick
EU for example is a goldmine of talents
silk linden
sure, but not the affirmed stars
there are no ryujehongs or shadowburns out there to pick
the big stars of the pre OWL era
main jacinth
I can agree. The pro scene right now in europe doesn't have the big names as much as other regions
silk linden
well OWL and Contenders killed the independent scene a bit
main jacinth
It did tbh.
silk linden
does clockwork still play with his keyboard in his lap? He used to do that in TF2
delicate mural
@balmy wolf Good baits. Got a few with that.
delicate mural
Oh, my bad. Didn't realize there was a timer.
frozen apex
tight vault
me
indigo barn
No Iโm going to watch some sssniperwolf stream fails compilation #5
slim summit
๐ฆ
I'm not going to be able to watch much today
Hopefully I don't miss anything too exciting
tight vault
your gonna miss boston vs florida
indigo barn
oh shit
tight vault
match of the year
young sonnet
Dragons themes song ๐ฉ
limber pine
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Boston Uprising vs Florida Mayhem 
6 PM PST: 
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tawny sigil
JAKE IS MAD BECAUSE HE IS BAD
slim summit
xQc is lucky they don't have to play Houston this stage
dull socket
7 minutes my dudes!
silk linden
@slim summit they have to play philly though
tight vault
Florida, Seoul, Valiant are my guesses on who will win
slim summit
Florida's been playing exceptionally well lately and Boston has been playing much worse than the end of Stage 1, so I could see that
would be pretty pretty pretty cool
torpid charm
y'all got predictions for tonight?
tight vault
i said mine already
indigo barn
bitch your wrong
tight vault
bitch your wrong
dull socket
I'm liking all this Mayhem support <3 We need good vibes
indigo barn
like what the FFFF are they gonna do against XXXqc huh??
tight vault
dallas fuel baybay
torpid charm
y'all picking Glad over Seoul? interesting
tight vault
jake is mad because jake is bad
slim summit
great insight from this guy
"no matter what, one of the two teams competing will win today!"
indigo barn
jake is getting skinnier from all his feeding
fragi getting a taste of that tracer meat
indigo barn
outlaws coach not gonna let jake play against nyxl
gonna keep clockwork in for all rounds
torpid charm
mmmmmmm I can't wait for Sado to play because Fragi on Winston stresses me the fuck out
slim summit
no but seriously where tf is the MLG stream
torpid charm
on the website
slim summit
where
marsh pumice
hi all lets get ready for some crazy moves
slim summit
all i can find are vods
young sonnet
Florida ran out of intros 
indigo barn
fragi on winston never dies
slim summit
damn dude
balmy wolf
cant wait for my boy xQc to pop off tonight
slim summit
i have a bomber very similar to soe's
balmy wolf
valiant are going to loseeee
indigo barn
Pucket X Soe
indigo barn
suckit
indigo barn
ikr ๐ญ
hidden osprey
I'll have to watch it tomorrow
dull socket
It's okay, the best match is up first :D
indigo barn
but u dont wanna miss dallas going 4-0??
hidden osprey
It'll be 6am by the time it finishes
azure harbor
meme fuel
tawny sigil
get mansplained Soe
indigo barn
oh rip
young sonnet
Sleep is for the weak
tawny sigil
well everyone gets weak at the end of the day
azure harbor
you can't miss Fuel games, they are the best that OWL can offer
magic bolt
Analysts all going for Florida
azure harbor
1-12
brisk roost
LOL
indigo barn
and analysts are ALWAYS right, right?
brisk roost
They all cheeer for Florida xD!
indigo barn
hell no
dull socket
Nooooooo, shhh
indigo barn
flordia 4-0 boston
brisk roost
Florida should win this for the lolz
indigo barn
oh right, sorry
young sonnet
oof
tight vault
shanghai
rustic perch
i'd say shanghai
dull socket
He just called him aggravating, oucg
young sonnet
Shanghai has lost every game. Quick maffs ๐ค
tight vault
bostrashton
brisk roost
They're gonna get their first win on Stage 3 xD
azure harbor
Perhaps that new girl will change everything for Shanghai
brisk roost
The real question is, against which team
indigo barn
valiant
young sonnet
azure harbor
quick games, good
frozen moat
Lucio vs Mercy-Zen... Mayhem had no chance whatsoever of winning that
indigo barn
finish these games fast pls so we can watch some dallas fyool action
young sonnet
dull socket
Zuppeh </3
ruby pendant
lol genji
uncut moon
lmfao
rustic perch
florida could still finish faster
uncut moon
kapzpop
indigo barn
"unmolested"??
rustic perch
could
azure harbor
tawny sigil
yeah i heard that
young sonnet
indigo barn
did owl just go to pg-13
young sonnet
fined $1000
balmy wolf
why what happened
little talon
wtf zebbosai
uncut moon
its already 18 rated because that guy flipped the camera
indigo barn
oh right its already rated R after that boob flash
balmy wolf
so?
tawny sigil
at least XQC kept it off stage
pearl cedar
kazpy poppin off at the end
balmy wolf
yeah thanks for stating the obvious @tawny sigil
young sonnet
๐
balmy wolf
where is sinatraa tho
indigo barn
its already 18+ with everyone jacking off under the table
dull socket
Naughty.
young sonnet
little talon
wtf are the supports doing tho
azure harbor
young sonnet
feeding
young sonnet
They are mcdonalds after all
tawny sigil
profit not birdring
balmy wolf
lol 88,000 ppl watching
pearl cedar
Kazper's gonna get infrasight again lol
little talon
they were 10 times better against spitfire yesterday
indigo barn
when dallas fuel comes on it'll be 200,000 ppl watching
balmy wolf
cant wait for that to become 150,000+ when dallas starts playing
tawny sigil
mayhem intros doesn't get the views in
azure harbor
well people watch Dallas for memes, Florida is just sad
brisk roost
Lol
azure harbor
little talon
yeah idk they were so good
balmy wolf
this is boring. Imma be on Hulu until the Dallas match
dusk garden
i regret coming into the stream while semmler is casting
little talon
i'm so disappointed in them
brisk roost
Finally Boston gets a point
dusk garden
the stage*
indigo barn
*stage
forest wharf
Jesus fl supports are so trash
young sonnet
Jesus fl are so trash*
indigo barn
they are better than nyxl supports wtf r u sayingh
young sonnet
Fixed
balmy wolf
@indigo barn they are trash this game...
indigo barn
better than gesture
uncut moon
SHD are better than fl
young sonnet
little talon
they were trash right now, but yesterday they were actually really good
balmy wolf
peace nerds
indigo barn
bye babe
brisk roost
Bahbye
indigo barn
this is boring i'm gonna do my placements
people wanna watch florida kick ass not suck ass
pearl cedar
Striker poppin offf
uncut moon
on the website
forest wharf
Fuck mlg
slim summit
WHERE ON THE WEBSITE
rough night
.... he has no idea what a meta is lol
dusk garden
bronze caster
rough night
it has nothing to do with style... its a specific combination of characters for a specific goal and strategy
tight vault
t viq
ruby pendant
Tracer too good
brisk roost
Take notes Jake lol
ruby pendant
@pearl cedar Definitely, lol.
left fog
if houston runs soldier tracer it should be jake soldier linkzr tracer
not that abomination we saw yday
rough night
linkzr is just...
left fog
linkzr's tac visors were just big indicators to dive him
to be fair, hard ult to get value out if your team isnt playing around you specifically like dallas does with akm
little talon
dear god the boston dps are on fire
rough night
drug tests on boston pls
brisk roost
Bro Boston are on roids tonight
indigo barn
dreamkazper's hero pool is bigger than my college debt
little talon
hard carry by tracer lmao
brisk roost
Jake Soldier and Linkzr McCree would've gone well together tbh
indigo barn
anything but jake tracer
left fog
jake can play soldier junk genji as his, imo best heroes
brisk roost
Indeed
forest wharf
Nekos kb placement tho
brisk roost
At least Soldier is easier to play than Tracer
left fog
when linkzr is a proven tracer
indigo barn
what is beyond me is why didn't they sub in clockwork if they planeed to play so much tracer
rough night
jake's tracer is decent
brisk roost
Exactly
left fog
clockwork's tracer has looked pretty solid
brisk roost
Clockwork could've just played then if they're gonna stay as Tracer xD!
indigo barn
like i know you have to predetermine subs but if u wanna go tracer all 4 rounds
left fog
better than jake's obvs
rough night
jake is there main shotcaller
left fog
that's how i felt on the dallas/seoul route 66 game
bring rascal in
he plays hitscan
...
rough night
ye but you can tell that jake is the pack leader
indigo barn
yeah....
indigo barn
but then u remember his tracer
left fog
how the hell can you effectively shotcall
rough night
he has a leaders presence about him....
left fog
as tracer
indigo barn
bench jake until he learns to not play tracer
rough night
at that level anything can play a part.... he might be super positive in comms.... he might be instructive....
brisk roost
He thinks playing Tracer was just a practice game for him lol
That's where he fucked up
ruby pendant
Tracer makes it look so easy!
pearl cedar
striker*
indigo barn
like linkzr can play tracer and jake on soldier
left fog
striker having a great day
indigo barn
y no SWITCH
dull socket
Striker was super underestimated on Tracer
rough night
tbh.... he has another 5 pro players working along side him.... who he scrims with on a daily basis... i dont think he just makes the choices off his own back
slim summit
what a rollercoaster
indigo barn
yeah i cant say anything i have no clue what goes on behind the scene
s
but jake can play genji why did linkzr take the genji
give linkzr his hitscan
azure harbor
brisk roost
Wow Florida actually got it
rough night
maybe when they scrim'd linkzr's genji was stronger
little talon
how do they still fall for lucio's boop
indigo barn
or owl is rigged
cerulean plume
Camera work getting worse and worse 
indigo barn
๐คท
cerulean plume
Dude zebo got the double boop
dusk garden
you heroist
indigo barn
pharah v pharah more fun now that mercy meta over
rough night
winston shield eaten up ...
tight vault
this has been interesting so far
rough night
uber is a much better commentator
azure harbor
young sonnet
Pro plays
young sonnet
yes
slim summit
oh lol
azure harbor
rough night
......... da fuk
young sonnet
LUL
slim summit
lol
little talon
he was better on widow lmao
tight vault
pro ult
cerulean plume
YIKES
dull socket
LOL that barrage
tight vault
yall bronze players are better than dat
brisk roost
That barrage was nasty man xD!
slim summit
much improved over the last barrage
azure harbor
200 IQ play
little talon
i'm gonna be mad if uprising wins this
azure harbor
ez 4-0
little talon
considering their plays
dull socket
Ughhh
young sonnet
Kasper made those NA ults and they still win
dull socket
Mayhem support just can't stay alive
azure harbor
zoning ults
young sonnet
Z O N E
rough night
the lucio just follows the tanks.... leaves the zen to get gang raped
happened twice there
forest wharf
Yea, zebosai has been playing pretty autisticly this game
little talon
zebbo is doing jack shit today
tight vault
i love how everyone in twitch chat critizises bad plays yet they probably make those plays too
rough night
Zen is the most un-mobile of the supports... so if he gets dived on... he is fkd
forest wharf
Difference is they aren't pros getting paid to make those bad plays
young sonnet
Taking twitch chat seriously is your first mistake my dude
wide basin
I hope Mayhem unchokes by the second half
left fog
honestly the dragons play better than the mayhem
elfin ermine
I want floirda to do well but goddamn are they retarded
left fog
the dragons have morale/comm issues like with diya/undead reverting to the carry mentality
but florida...
christ
rough night
no koreans = no win
brisk roost
Except Houston
left fog
korean worship omegalul
brisk roost
Crossing my fingers on Houston vs NYXL
rough night
Houston should take it
brisk roost
I'm pretty certain that Houston makes Korean teams bleed
Just don't repeat the same mistake that Jake did lmfao
rough night
Houston are on a roll atm..... there synergy is awesome
brisk roost
If they want to stay as Tracer, have Clockwork do the job
rough night
hold on .... did they win against fusion
tight vault
no
rough night
wtf.... how did they lose that..... i had ยฃ10 on a 5 way bet
brisk roost
Well
tight vault
2-3
rough night
useless piles on donkey spunk
shy wind
This music
brisk roost
It was so obvious that he's doing bad and he didn't bother to change
rough night
terminator m00sic
brisk roost
I like this badass music tbh
rough night
i want your boots ... your clothes... and your motorcycle
limber pine
MISTAKES
rough night
dreamkazper off.... thats a mistake
versed crystal
Mistakes were made
brisk roost
Jake should've changed his name to "Mistakes" for one day
limber pine
maybe Mistakes is running something else
rough night
technically if they lose its his moms fault... she made mistakes
uncut moon
hearthstone
little talon
do people other than millionnaires still play this game
rough night
so many mistakes
little talon
lmao cwoosh
rough night
it was a mistake for mistakes to make that mistakes so hopefully mistakes wont make the mistake again
wide basin
I don't think I'd be so salty about this if we hadn't put up a good fight yesterday
But jesus
What the hell happened
brisk roost
I smell 4-0
little talon
yeah i'm so mad
uncut moon
McDonalds take my order
brisk roost
It wouldn't be an OW comm without "monkeymonkeymonkey"
balmy wolf
@R8 Promethean#1784 thats racist
azure harbor
wide basin
That BM tho
little talon
g'day!
shy wind
g'day!
brisk roost
@balmy wolf I was quoting the commentator guy lol
wide basin
Tviq finally clocking in
dreamy belfry
I really want mayhem to beat uprising ๐ฆ
dreamy belfry
He usually performs so well
brisk roost
yeah I smell 4-0
azure harbor
uncut moon
Mistakes = 
wide basin
Ugh
dreamy belfry
Mayhem did better vs spitfire smh
rough night
little talon
i've never seen plays this bad in owl since i started watching
wide basin
That's what gets me
dreamy belfry
Have you watched dragons
little talon
i have and it wasn't as bad
dreamy belfry
It really was
wide basin
We almost tied a top-seed team yesterday and then this
uncut moon
There are better plays in 
than this match
brisk roost
Yeah well Florida can take one but it won't make a difference for the fact that Boston already have the W
Lol
little talon
mayhem was back to their early stage 1 level in this match
rough night
if you had to make changes to Florida
dreamy belfry
Yeah
rough night
who would go
dreamy belfry
Next game is gonna be litty
brisk roost
Glads vs Dynasty isn't really too hype tbh
rough night
zebbo and cswoosh are not on the same level imo
wide basin
I have no idea, but Logix has been less than impressive these past two days
little talon
logix did fine yesterday but today the only dps was tviq
rough night
logix mains tracer though..... and you need your team to hold there own so you can just dart around
visual glen
Glads are probably gonna get stomped 
rough night
cwoosh seems to over extend.... and zebbo doesnt work with the other support
dreamy belfry
I'm hyped for every dynasty match
silk linden
you know what? I think Mayhem might be the team that's in the best position and is having the best time. Think about it: they can't possibly be dead last because 
so they don't have to fear that humiliation, they have no chances to make playoffs so they just don't feel the pressure, they still put out good enough performances against good teams so that people don't say they are weak pushovers, the odd win they get is super celebrated while their losses are shrugged off
dreamy belfry
Lunatic hai fan reporting in haha
rough night
how could florida be happy getting ruined week after week
dreamy belfry
Because they're getting ruined by the best players in the world, week after week
The worst of the best is still really damn good
rough night
im still not seeing how that would make you happy
shy wind
I mean still not dragons
dreamy belfry
I mean, maybe not happy
silk linden
I'm not 100% serious my guy, it's just funny to think about
dull socket
I mean, yeah, being the underdog is endearing
rough night
thats like saying... hey you might be a virgin when you go in prison... but think about how much shower rape youll get
dreamy belfry
No it's not...
dull socket
I'm a little heartbroken right now
silk linden
like would you rather be dallas, a team people hyped up so much but that is not meeting expectations and getting harshly criticized?
dull socket
Maybe Boston is written in white so you can't see it
silk linden
would you rather be dragons, who are a living shame?
shy wind
that aim
dull socket
Definitely wouldn't rather be Fuel
silk linden
would you rather be gladiators, cursed with being the other, shittier LA team?
silk linden
nobody hates on mayhem
dreamy belfry
I'll root for dynasty and fuel for forever
wide basin
I agree with Veex
Mayhem are bad but they have enough personality that they're lovable buffoons
shy wind
I'm London fan 5ever
brisk roost
I'm Houston fan here
silk linden
if OWL were a league with relegations, mayhem would be the team that comfortably avoids it
wide basin
And that doesn't quite happen with the Dragons
rough night
london here too.... only because they are my home team though
silk linden
they're just at home in their swamp in the lower parts of the table
and people still give them respect
dull socket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovhyuT-gb-U Fangirl warning <3
dreamy belfry
I'm just happy that spitfire hasn't C9ed yet, as far as I've seen
silk linden
they have sometimes
rough night
Veex i get your point... but can you imagine the meeting with the big wigs.....
brisk roost
๐
slate meteor
i just tuned in wHTAS HAPPENING
dreamy belfry
mayhem got shit on by uprising
dull socket
Mayhem lost but we love them anyway, same ol
dreamy belfry
and we're waiting on the next game
silk linden
I think C9s have happened in their match against houston
slate meteor
nice stick
rough night
looks guys..... i know your losing majority of your games... with my Team logo plastered all over you... and i invested 50mil n stuff.... but its fine.... at least your trying your best
silk linden
well not all teams can win all matches
slate meteor
oh shit
silk linden
someone's gotta come in 11th place
rough night
someone yea... but if i invested 50million... i would wanna see results
dreamy belfry
everyone but dragons
rough night
otherwise heads would roll
dreamy belfry
Can't wait till geguri gets here and they still can't win
uncut moon
mada mada
dreamy belfry
we need mayhem vs dragons
rough night
i dont think a CEO would give a flying shit if they trying there best
shy wind
Oh god eew, I just drank coffe instead of my tea
rough night
if it was me i would find someone who could try there best... at a higher level
silk linden
fuck CEOs they're just capitalist pigs they can rot in hell
I'm talking about the players
dreamy belfry
Umm
rough night
well if the CEO didnt invest there wouldnt be players
dreamy belfry
some of them are pretty cool...
silk linden
"but think of the poor lost incomes"
dreamy belfry
I follow a few of the teams CEOs on twitter. It's not really fair to say that
rough night
im not talking about incomes
dull socket
There are less risky ways to invest, I would say that even the investors have personal reasons why they support the game
pearl stratus
I'm pretty sure Robert Kraft doesn't care.
rough night
im talking about mindset.... your saying hey we are losing... its fine though... we had no expectations
silk linden
also, do you think only the league winners make money? All teams in the league make money
dreamy belfry
I think for most, it's just fun for them
pearl stratus
He has more money. $20 million is wipe your ass investment money for him.
silk linden
they share the revenue
dreamy belfry
They make a ton off sponsors and selling merch
silk linden
hell even teams like London might make more money from merch than from wins
dull socket
No one is okay with just losing, but if you are cheering on Mayhem...realistically you weren't expecting them to be top tier
shy wind
They def do @silk linden
silk linden
and mayhem have support so they do make money from fans
dreamy belfry
XQC probably makes more streaming than the entire dragons roster gets to split this season tbh
shy wind
but London has a good fanbase just from background alone
brisk roost
Lmfao
dreamy belfry
from streaming
brisk roost
That explains it
dreamy belfry
-_-
pearl stratus
He's not worth the money unproven if he can't maintain the proper public face.
silk linden
well yeah 5k streams definitely make more money than most OWL players
pearl stratus
So I get his low pay.
silk linden
that's just how it is
rough night
but if i was playing on a pro team... and it was my only source of income and week after week we lost..... no body backs a losing horse (i.e sponsorship etc) .... and you knew that the guys at the top will not tolerate it forever.... how would that make you feel
brisk roost
I'd rather enjoy what I'm doing than how much I'm getting paid
dreamy belfry
I've been disappointed with XQCs performance so far
pearl stratus
It's 50-50.
dreamy belfry
both before and after his suspension
slate meteor
get fuckde
pearl stratus
Some of the players have reported Salaries in the 150-250k range.
silk linden
have you seen any sports league b1eachy? it's not like all teams have a chance to win from the beginning
but they why do they still participate?
brisk roost
Only if you are really lucky to remain undefeated
slate meteor
2hp and escaped
dull socket
Nice tea bag spray
pearl stratus
Then you start replacing, as contracts expire etc.
shy wind
^^^
pearl stratus
Since I'd assume most teams (minus the korean ones) probably only did one year contracts.
I could see the korean teams doing longer since they're pre-existing teams.
rough night
exactly
pearl stratus
So its already a proven roster.
slate meteor
rip winston
dreamy belfry
I think most people would rather sign with their same team, rather than give up the synergy and friendship
silk linden
say you're like, Watford. You're content with making 10th place, avoid relegation, make some bucks from TV money, maybe win one big match or two during the season, maybe in exceptional years make the Europa League qualifications. Not every team has Manchester City ambitions
shy wind
without a heavy overhaul
pearl stratus
I do. Dragons fucked up and they paid for it.
dreamy belfry
even on a losing team, I'd rather be with the same people.
pearl stratus
They'll probably ditch their coach.
But there's a lot of really talented chinese players.
The three koreans will help too.
shy wind
The problem with that is, how long will it take you to be together to fix your problems
silk linden
it's not their coach their problem, it's the whole org
pearl stratus
Hopefully its not too late to salvage more MY players.
Well some of it they can't fix now.
dreamy belfry
I don't think geguri will help. I don't think she's going to make any difference.
pearl stratus
Half of the MY roster is 17.
shy wind
when your opposition has a even better chance of sticking together
silk linden
actually MY players moved on to other games by nw
brisk roost
Lol GG
silk linden
they retired from OW
pearl stratus
Geguri will help.
brisk roost
Boston pullin Philly
jagged crater
kellex support main playing soldier, i love this
brisk roost
Florida pullin Houston last night
jagged crater
it's great seeing support players playin dps
slate meteor
good no c9
silk linden
why would you offer a contract to someone who hasn't played OW for a while
jagged crater
just flexing around
pearl stratus
I doubt they stopped playing entirely, just for income.
Most went to PubG which is already failing.
silk linden
even pros get rusty super fast if they don't keep playing at high level
jagged crater
mayhem when are you using the new players XD
jagged crater
uprising went from 0-12 to 4-0, mayhem is like so bad
pearl stratus
Just waiting on visas.
brisk roost
Yeah PUBG is slowly fadin'
wide basin
@jagged crater They haveto deal with immigration first
pearl stratus
PUBG is a great game, but they're losing to Fortnite lately, lol
silk linden
thank god that game is overhyped
shy wind
PUBG is only kept by streamers
jagged crater
it's crazy how low mayhem and shanghai are compared to everyone else
silk linden
I actually wanna see mayhem-shock
pearl stratus
Shanghai shouldn't be, they just did some stupid shit because they let the coach make too many decisions.
They've got a roster in which realistically only 3 people are good enough for OWL.
brisk roost
PUBG is quickly dying RIP
jagged crater
Team rankings right now are like
Shanghai <<< Florida <<< 10 other teams
silk linden
did the coach decide the pickups?
brisk roost
The hype only lasted couple months xD!
pearl stratus
Yes.
silk linden
or was it the general manager?
pearl stratus
It's his team that they brought lol
jagged crater
every other team can beat eachother within reason from the looks of it
pearl stratus
And the new replacements will help a lot more than people think.
Since Shanghai's biggest issues is two tanks, and a support.
jagged crater
omg mistakes got play time
pearl stratus
Freefeed is like having a plat player ont he team, MG is maybe Bronze.
Roshan is bad, but made worse by the fact MG doesn't support his dives.
jagged crater
avast and snow no playtime yet tho ๐ฆ
pearl stratus
So having Fearless + Geguri will actually fill a decent gap.
Undead and Diya are good enough DPS for OWL, when they're not trying to do everything for their team and getting lost in the shuffle.
silk linden
sure, they just need to build synergy from the ground up 3 months after everyone else
jagged crater
free mendo!
silk linden
can mendo play tracer?
shy wind
It's better than sticking with the same roster and just keep on losing
It's not like something will suddenly click
pearl stratus
Also the two tanks don't need synergy.
brisk roost
From getting 0-4'd three times, they won with a 4-0 just wow.
shy wind
and they will beat other teams
jagged crater
soe wants him omg
brisk roost
Yeah what happened to Mendo?
silk linden
exactly, other new pickups come into a team and try and learn what the system there is, the new shanghai pickups are there to actually rebuild the whole thing
brisk roost
Did he get suspended or somethin
pearl stratus
Mendo almost died like twice.
jagged crater
mendo is chillin with tpain
silk linden
mendo got teeth problems and was out for a month
pearl stratus
He got sick, then he got wisdom teeth issues to a full infection.
Then got sick agian.
silk linden
then when he became available, the team was doing good so there was never any reason to sub him in
shy wind
It's simple, do you keep playing on a broken pc or do you buy parts to fix it even though it will take time to adjust
silk linden
he's ok with it, he understands his position
pearl stratus
I don't even think it will take that much time for Shanghai to adjust.
rough night
makes me laugh... they come out... set the m&k up.... then make a grand entrance again lol
silk linden
he still plays with the team and helps with strats and analysis
brisk roost
@rough night Same lmfao
pearl stratus
Realistically two solid tanks will let Undead and Diya actually.. play.
jagged crater
the jankeret
pearl stratus
Look at how short of a time it took to integrate Fissure into LAG
pearl stratus
Yeah, and thats kind of what I mean.
silk linden
the thing is, with the new pickups shanghai will become a presentable team, but by then most of the other team will have become absolute units
jagged crater
and fissure himself has reasonable english knowledge
silk linden
so they'll have to makeup that gap too
jagged crater
he had decent english when i watched his stream
rough night
fissure is a beast though
pearl stratus
Undead and Diya both speak, broken, but okayish english.
shy wind
I mean communication comes down to
jagged crater
is Bischu korean american?
pearl stratus
Bischu is Korean Canadian, iirc.
pearl stratus
Wrong Rectio.
jagged crater
ok close enough
silk linden
I think you could pick up any language to the level you're needed to play OW in like 3 weeks
jagged crater
Bischu english is too damn good for a pure korean
silk linden
BABY BABY BAY
pearl stratus
Honestly most of the in game communication breaks down into numbers (1-2-3) and names.
silk linden
STAY ON POINT STAY ON POINT
pearl stratus
You need to know: STAY, GO, MONKEY, WIDOW, etc.
dusk garden
swole dinnesty
silk linden
PLEASE KILL COOLMATT PLEASE (<- most important comm to learn)
jagged crater
Rascal seems to be doing alright on Fuel , his english is def not good
brisk roost
REVERSE SWEEP
dusk garden
PLEASE KILL COOLMATT PLEASE
pearl stratus
If it was only a single korean player with 5 chinese I'd say it might take longer.
rough night
silk linden
just give effect and rascal their own channel
onyx shore
i woke up,i see the score,i opened reddit,what's this? people getting mad over a twitch emote now?
pearl stratus
But I assume the roster will become: Fearless, Geguri, Diya/Undead, Ado, Fiveking/Altering, Sky.
jagged crater
lol who mad
pearl stratus
Which should keep it at 3:3.
onyx shore
pearl stratus
With sometimes running Undead + Diya.
jagged crater
Rascal is too pure for this world