And ignored the roster from MY.
#esports-discussion
pearl stratus
When MY used to go toe to toe with Korean teams.
Basically they literally ignored an entire better ranked Chinese team.
MY had just won the premier series as well.
IIRC.
Yeah.
So they'd just won the Premier series, and LGD had come in fourth.
So they brought the fourth ranked team members to OWL.
Not the first ranked.
zealous thistle
it's funny how SHD is so bad in the league
while other chinese teams in other games is mostly either dominating or making their name for it
pearl stratus
Again, part of the problem of a low ranked team coming in to compete against top ranked people.
It's why people feel so bad for them, imo. A bunch of kids who were asked to play OW, when they probably shouldn't have been in most situations.
Like Undead? Fine, he's good enough. When he pops off he's pretty crazy. Diya too.
Roshan? 50-50. Though usually fine.
Altering + Freefeel as a support duo? Painful to watch, both really scared of the other teams DPS and prone to popping oh-shit ults without the game sense of when to hold it.
MG? Plays like he's in plat or lower 90% of the time.
zealous thistle
agree, MG looks like he doesn't even know what he's doing
he plays dva but cant create space for the dps
and late to protect the team as well because he got demech alot
pearl stratus
I hope Shanghais new pick ups turn up like other teams did.
EQO and AKM didn't waste any time in asserting some dominance.
zealous thistle
why haven't we seeen Geguri play?
magic zinc
Work Permit issues
frail remnant
Im sorry, I just think Bdosin is pretty much equal with jjonak
pearl stratus
Visas.
magic zinc
She probably won't be in until Stage 3
pearl stratus
It's the issue with all of the Shanghai recruits.
I think they'll be in earlier than that, if the coaching team is smart.
frail remnant
MG has no peel
pearl stratus
EQO came from Israel iirc. But I don't know when.
Though EQO was announced last year.
So his stuff has probably been in the works.
frail remnant
I'd say Roshan makes equally bad plays as MG
To be honest, i'd say the only two worthy players in SHD are undead and possibly fivekings
SHD tanks are just abysmal
pearl stratus
Diya is worthy.
frail remnant
Sometimes
pearl stratus
Diya is just, in my opinion, stuck in a Libero situation
silk linden
I wonder if other teams will ever look into picking up chinese players
frail remnant
I feel he isn't as consistent as Undead
pearl stratus
He's not able to perform to par.
We've seen Diya play Genji, Pharah, etc.
When Diya is a hitscan player.
pearl stratus
I think another team already picked up an MY player.
Or was rumored to.
MY disbanded after not getting picked for the Shanghai OWL team, most of them are playing Fortnite/PubG right now afaik.
frail remnant
Undead could switch with Birdring I think he'd be able to keep up with him pretty consistently
zealous thistle
Diya i think is caught in a limbo
he's not playing his best role, and forced to fill in
pearl stratus
Diya is in a Libero situation, honestly. It's why Libero wasn't super hyped until he got to NYXL.
And suddenly he was swapping roles with a team that could support him
And he does really well.
Same with Fleta.
Not that Diya is on a Fleta level.
But storywise.
pearl stratus
Zhufanjun - Sky.
zealous thistle
Fleta had a good first half of the season until everyone shuts him down
pearl stratus
Yep, lol
frail remnant
Poor guy xD
zealous thistle
and Dynasty panicked. Munchkin and Bunny couldn't fill in
pearl stratus
But none of the rest of MY got picked up either.
zealous thistle
plus there's that one time Jehong not playing against a big team, i forgot which one. they lost 4-0
frail remnant
Hopefully Sky can replace freefeel (fml)
pearl stratus
Sky?
I'm thinking we'll see both tanks get replaced unless they run triple tank.
Fearless (MT) + Geguri (OT).
zealous thistle
poor freefeel
pearl stratus
Undead (Hitscan) + Diya/Ado.
pearl stratus
Roshan does well when he's with Xushu.
small steppe
Roshan has a tendency to die first in engagements.
pearl stratus
Not when he's with MG.
It's really weird.
Roshan dying is more often than not MG's fault.
Because MG doesn't follow him.
frail remnant
Fiveking/Sky, Undead/Diya, Geguri/whoeverelse
wet oyster
xushu is OK
pearl stratus
So he's left sitting there like "Uh."
silk linden
yeah but they're clearly, like, the sons of the girlfriend of the brother of the general manager of SD
small steppe
I'd love to see Geguri to start playing.
zealous thistle
another thing with SHD is their morale.
pearl stratus
@frail remnant They picked up Fearless.
small steppe
She's a super solid dva and zarya.
pearl stratus
From Element Mystic.
zealous thistle
did you guys notice their face when walking in against LAV. They don't have energy at all
wet oyster
thats true aloha
small steppe
It'd go well with their somewhat okay 4-tank lineup.
frail remnant
Not aware of him @Endoken, is he good?
zealous thistle
like "oh well, let's jsut get this over with"
pearl stratus
He's solid, Korean - http://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Fearless.
More along the Winston side of things.
small steppe
fearless's legit.
pearl stratus
Which means Roshan replacement.
frail remnant
Lost to KGP
small steppe
he's a main tank
frail remnant
in the Nexus Cup 2017
pearl stratus
Whereas Geguri has been polishing her D'va.
idle beacon
@small steppe i'd love to see geguri dancin on my lap
pearl stratus
To replace Mg.
idle beacon
she fckn cute
small steppe
lewd
wet oyster
why do i feel like fusion university would be like #9 or something in OWL
small steppe
nah, they ain't OWL material. okay maybe some of their players.
molten skiff
Im actually older than SBB
pearl stratus
lol
molten skiff
f my life
silk linden
Dragons being a shitshow must have cost Blizzard a fortune, with the drop in chinese viewership
fucking nepotism
frail remnant
The two of them together are like my perfect lovechild
pearl stratus
It cost China more, tbh.
China hates losing and bad publicity like that.
And that's ALL THEY GOT.
small steppe
but it'll be a great story to see a comeback when they get their roster alll sorted
small steppe
be a fantastic black sheep story
wet oyster
fusion uni is in the process of winning ow pit
frail remnant
who the shit are X6 Gaming
pearl stratus
Especially when you compare it to the South Korean teams.
Hiring personal trainers, yoga instructors.
Nutritionists, etc.
wet oyster
they did pretty good in apex 4 @frail remnant
pearl stratus
I'm glad Fissure and Rascal went to teams where they get more play time.
As much as I like iRemix.
wet oyster
who is kgp
pearl stratus
Fissure is night and day better.
frail remnant
Kongdoo Panthera
wet oyster
they got dissolved into c9 kongdoo and then spitfire
small steppe
yeh
frail remnant
c9 Kongdoo was questionable
small steppe
it's literally c9 kongdoo
wet oyster
so kdp isn't a thing anymore
frail remnant
Love the Spitfire merge though
Literally, gesture just replaced the worse: fissure
pearl stratus
It's interesting to see personalities smash though.
pearl stratus
Also I like watching some of the trades.
small steppe
no?
pearl stratus
For people who just want to play more.
wet oyster
oh ok
small steppe
there's no confirmation on that part
for contenders? yeah, there's talk about that.
frail remnant
I love how Bishop just became the coach and dropped playing
small steppe
kaiser is way too stagnant and leans way too heavily on his loyalty to runaway imho
molten skiff
but he's not in runaway
pearl stratus
Btw.
frail remnant
Should dafran decide he wants to OWL, probably never, but he'd do very well in a team if he can match their personality
small steppe
didn't he come back to runaway though?
wet oyster
i think he should join shock w/ his selfless bois @frail remnant
frail remnant
Gah houston needs to be nerfed
pearl stratus
I like watching Houston.
molten skiff
kaiser is in houston's academy team??
frail remnant
Love Muma though, some of his plays are incredible
zealous thistle
i like watching houston too
pearl stratus
Yeah he's on Optik Academy.
zealous thistle
that houston v spitfire
pearl stratus
Houston I like because they're not the best players in the league.
They're really not.
zealous thistle
it was lit
pearl stratus
But they work super well together.
frail remnant
Yeah well done on him
pearl stratus
And they play smart.
small steppe
they do odd comps
pearl stratus
Like take Jake.
wet oyster
opposite of fusion Endoken
frail remnant
The only tank play i've seen better than Muma so far
zealous thistle
they remind me of USA team against South Korea in the world cup
small steppe
i respect houston for that
zealous thistle
that hanamura map
pearl stratus
I think Jake is mechanically one of the worst players in the league.
frail remnant
Was Gamsu hammering them all in the alleyway
wet oyster
thats why he plays junk
frail remnant
Anyone see that clip where Jake is playing Ana paintball?
pearl stratus
He plays whatever works against the other team.
pearl stratus
He's played Genji, Soldier, and Tracer in Stage 1.
small steppe
playing junk can really enable your team's tank to go ham, especially against rein/orisa
pearl stratus
And so far Soldier, Tracer, Junk in Stage 2.
frail remnant
And he gets like 10 kills in like 10 seconds
pearl stratus
His Soldier play is good, his Tracer play is... meh.
frail remnant
His genji is bad
pearl stratus
But his tracer play improvement rate is interesting to watch.
frail remnant
I've seen it good before
pearl stratus
His Genji is bad except for one thing.
frail remnant
There is one in ranked where he just cleans the shit out of everyone
pearl stratus
He ults insanely well on him.
frail remnant
yeah
pearl stratus
Which is basically Jake in a nutshell.
Mechanically? Okay.
Game sense/Shot call? Insane.
But realistically probably one of the mechanically weakest players in the league.
wet oyster
if he's good at soldier he's at least goodish at mechanics
small steppe
Jake's good on his shotcalling
pearl stratus
He's smart. He's a brain player.
Which is why the Koreans respect him so much imo.
small steppe
aye
pearl stratus
Korean teams love Jake. Like full blown hardon.
wet oyster
he writes a blog about the stuff behind OW
small steppe
he has a methodical mindset
wet oyster
like math and psychology and shit
pearl stratus
Psychology is huge in OW. As dumb as that sounds.
I'm mechanically pretty bad, I've gotten old. I work a desk job. My hand eye coordination isn't the best.
frail remnant
Im mechanically awful
pearl stratus
But I can figure out how people play, and play around it.
frail remnant
I feel my gamesense is better than my mechanical skills
wet oyster
i feel the opposite way
frail remnant
Like I know what I want to do, I just can't always do it because my mechanical skills are garbage
wet oyster
my mech skills are decent but im bad at game sense
pearl stratus
Yeah, the more I play against people the more I just start winning against them. Because people are habitual.
silk linden
teamplay is literally everything in owl
wet oyster
odd considering im a genji main
silk linden
mech skills hardly matter at all
frail remnant
Like my callouts are good, and half of the time I get target focussing to a T
silk linden
especially since they're all pretty high
idle beacon
geguri ❤
pearl stratus
Like I've been hardcore tracer focusing and I'll start games super slow.
frail remnant
But everything else I do makes me plumit
pearl stratus
Then I start getting kills. Then I start getting ults, then I just snowball.
But good players? They'll kick my ass for a match or two before I catch up.
lol
glacial sleet
Came across a 4stack from philly fusioin yesterday in quickplay lul
wet oyster
jealous af
pearl stratus
Honestly I know I'd need to lube up my butt.
But I'd love to play against the pros.
I learn so much faster when I'm getting my shit kicked in.
glacial sleet
it was joemeister and other lvl 10 smurfs named bizzyfan
all had philly fusion skins lol
pearl stratus
I'm just glad EQO is on Philly now.
They're not so boring to watch anymore.
Shadowburn is an insane genji. Gamesense out the ass.
zealous thistle
Fusion is like the boring but effective team
pearl stratus
But god is he boring af to watch.
glacial sleet
One of the smurfs got potg as mei
pearl stratus
Then there's EQO. GET A BLADE USE A BLADE.
zealous thistle
uprising is the opposite. you don't know what they are doing, but hey it works for them
glacial sleet
he was fragging out with mei, hilarious
pearl stratus
I like how aggressive he plays.
It matches Carpe.
Carpe is a really aggressive Tracer.
And Shadowburns passive didn't always compliment it.
I hate OWL because I don't really support any teams, lol
pearl stratus
I just support the players I like.
frail remnant
But I just feel like even when I try to look at what Im doing wrong and improve, i still fallshort
frail remnant
It be nice for a Mr Myagi type character to come down [edit: from heaven] and teach me the ways of OW professionalism
It make a great movie
pearl stratus
And 10 last season! He's been warmed up!
idle beacon
geguri is bae ❤
silk linden
why
becays
she's a woman
so she's bae?
you didn't know anything about com ow until 1 month ago, and suddenly geguri is bae
vestal mortar
🤔
frail remnant
scarlet spear
idle beacon
@silk linden i didnt know what a month ago?
frail remnant
I think im gonna play more Ana
frail remnant
of what
limber pine
PIT
frail remnant
Never heard of it
limber pine
Twitter
magic zinc
Oh thats awkward
vestal mortar
welp
vestal mortar
https://78.media.tumblr.com/dc658047b9648665c955d8b3b8f1c158/tumblr_inline_p4qarxxl4N1stv93m_500.gif
frail remnant
oh shit kungarna's still about
limber pine
i mean EnVision is no slouch
small steppe
but srs, uprising and fuel are my fave teams atm due to what they can bring to the table.
frail remnant
Good to see some uprising support
vestal mortar
Sonny, are you talking about Philly Fusion or Fusion University?
small steppe
fusion university
frail remnant
whoru tho
sullen berry
The burn blue starter pack 📦 Feat. support for Boston, London and NYXL
scarlet spear
they just had a solid hold on anubis
sullen berry
Atlantic division have the leader board toppers
While I look forward to the growing Pacific next season
frail remnant
Why does Overwatch League get team colours however they aren't able to do it in PIT?
limber pine
scarlet spear
because OWL is using their own client i'd guess
vestal mortar
^
scarlet spear
no reason to give it out to 3rd party tournaments
sullen berry
@frail remnant there's really no reason for them to put more work on skins that's not OW World cup or OWL
zealous thistle
@frail remnant mainly marketing purposes
small steppe
owl is its own thing
frail remnant
Im not talking about skins
zealous thistle
if other tournament get colors, then OWL will not be so unique and will lose its value
limber pine
@scarlet spear looks like they have some ringers
magic zinc
Yeah so are we
sullen berry
Oh, well it's team colours
small steppe
that's the client side.
limber pine
speedz
small steppe
OWL uses their OWN version of overwatch.
scarlet spear
ooh yeah
magic zinc
I'd like some generic color skins though that'd be nice
limber pine
and whoever DCed
limber pine
yeah looks like just speedz replaces Gator
frail remnant
It doesn't make sense not to release the capability of more customizable customgame team colours to the public, surely?
scarlet spear
why?
vestal mortar
The different colours are very specific spectator elements like the overhead map that are part of the OWL client, it's not available on live.
zealous thistle
well, the colors are only visible to us
to the players they only see default skins
scarlet spear
why make it open to the public when its your own product for your prestige tournament
i can see why they wouldnt
zealous thistle
^
frail remnant
Because its blizzard.
magic zinc
I hope they adapt a generic version lately for the live client
But Blizzard support non-OWL tournaments? Good one
scarlet spear
as in when you have certain color for a team that team also has those skins for the team equipped
magic zinc
Considering Open Contender matches in some regions are scheduled during working hours
I kinda doubt it
scarlet spear
i mean its blizzard
they're not exactly geniuses
with everything they do eSports
frail remnant
Its hardly a huge secret change.
I doubt they're not releasing it for corporate reasons
limber pine
i wish they would
scarlet spear
i just guess from blizzard standpoint theres no reason to release it at all
frail remnant
It would be a great move for Blizzard.
Its hardly giving them an advantage, especially for something that is (i assume) extremely simple to implement in-code.
small steppe
uh a team that small wouldn't bother doing small things like this.
They got OWL to worry about, the academy teams, PTR (i guess) and other things to worry about.
frail remnant
They've already written the code
small steppe
i know
frail remnant
Its not like its a tough job
small steppe
but it still requires at least one person
small steppe
and one person is something they can't afford
frail remnant
For the same reason they give a shit about a hanzo rework
scarlet spear
same, i can color the team colors on paper with crayons
frail remnant
Its all improving the game and making it better for users
small steppe
uh
small steppe
how?
scarlet spear
1k viewer tourneys?
small steppe
tell me exactly how this would benefit the hundreds of thousands of players
when compared to tweaking hanzo
scarlet spear
damn whoru
small steppe
which would impact literally the whole playerbase
this is a super minority suggestion you're proposing
limber pine
I think the point is that releasing that would potentially increase the partnership and participation of the t2 scene
magic zinc
There's definitely a community for it
small steppe
then you have open.
which is entry for potential t3 who wants to be t2. or just t2 to dominate everything
magic zinc
Open is handled not so well is it?
small steppe
meh
magic zinc
No broadcasting, scheduling during work/school times
magic zinc
I'm sure there'd be someone to cast
magic zinc
And if not just give some new casting talent a whirl
pearl stratus
It's Blizzard.
pearl stratus
Take some idiot who just graduated, pay him well well well below rates because you're Blizzard and he can tongue your scrote.
limber pine
but it's all good
pearl stratus
And call it a day.
He's lucky to have a job and he can put Blizzard on his resume.
small steppe
lol you wouldn't be the first fusionguy
pearl stratus
Basically all they do for most of their positions.
All most huge companies do, lol
limber pine
and the guy...does the thing...and they win!
small steppe
yes
limber pine
huzzah
magic zinc
"Great play by WhoRU there, he killed 3 people"
pearl stratus
Blizzard, minus upper level, pays notoriously pretty bad because they can.
limber pine
@magic zinc you're hired
magic zinc
eh fusionguy just throw some catchphrases in there like semmler does
limber pine
We can our duo "Fire and Sprite"
pearl stratus
Helen Keller could commentate better than the people we have right now.
magic zinc
Yoo they can name a drink after us while we're at it
People can take a shot of it each time we fill a spot on the inevitable bingo card
limber pine
sounds like a plan
frail remnant
Plan for next OWL game
pearl stratus
My new idea is to increase the size of the OWL stadium.
frail remnant
Bingo card with most said caster phrases
pearl stratus
And give the crowd airsoft guns.
And they're allowed to shoot at the commentators when they make bad one liners.
All players are behind glass.
magic zinc
That's already a bingo card but if I'd have to take a shot everytime I'd die
frail remnant
Those are some strong paintball bullets to shoot through glass
pearl stratus
I just don't want the crowd shooting the players.
frail remnant
oh xD
pearl stratus
Only the commentators.
frail remnant
I was gonna say
magic zinc
Aren't they in a completely seperate room
limber pine
yes
magic zinc
Thats what Monte tweeted I think
frail remnant
Wait, what?
limber pine
they're off to the left somewhere
magic zinc
They have their own room with all spectating windows and live stats
gib stats blizz pls
frail remnant
The camera team have like 8 people and one room
magic zinc
Let CaptainPlanet give us those useless stats
scarlet spear
sit them on a bench above a waterpool while casting and give some viewers 100$ for a ball to throw, if they hit the target the caster falls into the water?
magic zinc
And then the other casters can cast that 
frail remnant
pearl stratus
Or you upgrade it to the super executive.
$500.
Announcers wear shock collars.
And they have to cast the game with you randomly zapping them.
magic zinc
I'm convinced Uber has that during overtime tbh
scarlet spear
the fuck is overwatchleague twitch channel streaming?
its live for me with some kind of shit
but when i opened it its offline
oh they're premiering a video
seems like its over anyways
frail remnant
Winston's Lab is still ranking London 2nd
idle beacon
geguri ❤
frail remnant
So, Stylosa hate?
young sonnet
I never heard of stylosa before everyone started hating him 
scarlet spear
same
young sonnet
iddqd is reviewing last weeks games. Pretty cool.
scarlet spear
literally only know the guy from people hating him
frail remnant
Im a bit unsure as to why the hate started
young sonnet
Apparently cause he posts shit
half arsed content about any little shred of news
or something like that
scarlet spear
people could literally not give a shit and just dont watch his content or talk about it, but thats how the circlejerk goes
frail remnant
He's just reports on things that happen in OW.
And does London game reviews.
And posts a lot of speculation videos.
young sonnet
I think that's why people don't really like
Cause the speculation videos you can literally make whatever shit you want to up
but i dunno. I don't watch him. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
magic zinc
He basically turns the top reddit post of that day into a video, and if he cant he makes a speculation vid
Its not exactly high quality content I guess
frail remnant
He does post about 3 videos a day though I swear
Its not like he's not putting effort into it.
young sonnet
I wouldn't say putting out 3 vids a day is putting effort into it. That sounds like rushing to me.
Putting effort into a video would require a couple of days or even a week
idle beacon
❤ geguri ❤
frail remnant
Spicy stuff happened with him today.
He posted a video with "Wild Speculation" at the end of it, and it got cut off on Mobile hence people thought he was reporting on the actual hero 27 release
The original thumbnail was v. clickbaity to be honest.
But he does put his time in: "My channel takes all my time. And that's my choice don't get me wrong. But when you put yourself out there day in day out, sometimes it can become difficult to switch off." If he isn't lying.
That's gonna teach him not to even dare putting any bold statements in even if they're suffix'd with "Wild Speculation"
idle beacon
GE GU RI
pearl stratus
Stylosa is like... imagine if the Onion made real news, but only after reading the real news on reddit.
But also had dyslexia.
And only graduated third grade.
idle beacon
g e g u r i
pearl stratus
That's basically the quality of content Stylosa puts out.
young sonnet
oof 🔥
idle beacon
The Orville any good?
young sonnet
It's better than the new startrek apparently
idle beacon
ok cool
seth mcfarlane is the bomb anyway
😄
family guy, american dad .. etc pp
ok back to topic
question: If i'd be in WW2, they'd call me ... ???
visual moth
hey i hope im allowed to say this here but if not then lmk
i got muted on a discord for tumblr users to watch overwatch league for saying something relatively controversial
young sonnet
Tumblr 👀
visual moth
and im wondering if there are other discord servers for watching owl live because i dont want to be their if theyre not gonna tolerate my opinion respectfully
visual moth
is there a live watch channel?
visual moth
thats what i want to see tbh
i can get behind that though
they were arguing about how it would have been nice if brigette was a black woman
and i said "thats kinda pushing representation and thats not a very good idea" and then it just unfurled from there lol
young sonnet
You're arguing on a tumblr server which i would imagine is full of radical feminists
visual moth
for the most aprt
silk linden
your answer could have been worded better, still, this is not the place to discuss that
glacial sleet
are there any channels that analyze some of the owl strats and plays?
visual moth
rightrighit i know
i came to ask if there was another discord i could go to to watch it live because im probably not very welcomed there anymore
silk linden
pro play is discussed mostly here and I guess in #overwatch-serious
visual moth
if tahgts against the rules then so be it
young sonnet
Spitfire
young sonnet
The prodigy is hype my dude
young sonnet
I actually first listened to them when the crysis 3 multiplayer trailer came out
it had invaders must die playing in the background
silk linden
cool, you can discuss it in #general-discussion
young sonnet
👀
idle beacon
i've first listened to them when their song Charlie got more popular
torpid charm
I'm sick af right now so hopefully OWL on Wednesday can cure my sickness
torpid charm
I'm a Fusion girl since I'm a Philly girl
silk linden
houston - fusion is gonna be lit
torpid charm
honestly
silk linden
other highlights of the week are seoul - dallas, NYXL - Boston, Philly - London, Dallas - Valiant, Houston - NYXL
torpid charm
is Houston vs. Boston worth watching? I know they got their cheeks clapped but I missed the game
@idle beacon hello friend
idle beacon
that match is over
4-0
i didnt even watch
if eQu keeps it up
fusion will show f4gg0t houston what gaming is
torpid charm
I've only missed two matches so far overall. I try to watch what I can but since the last match starts at 11 p.m. or later I cannot watch
woah woah wooooooah
idle beacon
ur a phili gurl, no?
torpid charm
ya ya
torpid charm
only opinion I have of Geguri is that she's a cutie
idle beacon
i knew about geguri before owl
@torpid charm ike
ikr*
but also damn skilled
men shouldn't degrade females in sports, especially not in esports
silk linden
you could start by not calling them "females", it's weird
torpid charm
what are the two escort maps for this stage? I keep forgetting
torpid charm
why do I keep forgetting about Gibraltar
silk linden
it's a good map too
torpid charm
I like Route 66 a lot, not too fond of Gibraltar but I don't hate it
idle beacon
gibraltar has 3 choke points, which gives intense fghts 😃
silk linden
good high grounds, good flanks
you can basically judge how good a map is by how similar it is to Kings Row
torpid charm
Gibraltar makes me anxious, but then again, all of OWL makes me anxious
idle beacon
kingsrow
silk linden
play roadhog = never die = no anxiety
idle beacon
4 choke points
torpid charm
I'm trying to expand my hero pool and Hog is the one I'm practicing with atm
silk linden
he's a good dude
spring lintel
torpid charm
I love when the attacking team plays on Hanamura and they just keep the other team from coming out of spawn on the second point, lol.
oh ya I know, I'm just trynna get gud with one more character in every category
silk linden
hanamura is the most cplul of cpluls, you gotta phisically stop the defenders from trickling in
torpid charm
as soon as they come through that door way you gotta fuck em up
wet oyster
ok no racism but fleta and profit are literally the same person
silk linden
the best looking koreans are ryujehong and jjonak
ryu looks like an old school mob boss
wet oyster
truth
silk linden
jjonak is a heartrob
I can see him adjusting his glasses with one hand as he rightclicks someone to death
"calculated"
he's the evil anime guy with glasses
saebyolbe is one good haircut away from crushing it
Pine exudes confidence
wet oyster
i feel like this conversation happens a lot in this channel
silk linden
it's important esport discussion
wet oyster
hottest player?
silk linden
outside of houston outlaws?
silk linden
then pick anyone from houston outlaws
wet oyster
jake is pretty hot
silk linden
jake, coolmatt, clockwork, rawkus
wet oyster
is it fair to say the worst looking player is miro
he just looks like a terrible villain
silk linden
nah he's aight
wet oyster
ok taimou
silk linden
best comment I've read on Outlaws https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/7zkkqn/post_match_thread_spoilers_london_spitfire_vs/duoqo68/
silk linden
"Bani: Looks like he could work an office IT job and provide for his wife no problem"
dead on
torpid charm
uuuuuh, Cwoosh is that awkward handsome. he's like a teddy bear
silk linden
who's the Dragons player with the really square jawline
torpid charm
Gamsu has a square head but it's oddly cute. I feel like the only person I find not too attractive is iremix
wet oyster
dude iremiix is ot
silk linden
nah, he's got the latino charisma
torpid charm
he's like the Hispanic uncle
silk linden
"Muma?"
"So Chad he has sworn off women and exclusively procreates with fellow Chads"
torpid charm
I remember everyone thought he was black and I'm like "nah, he's just dark and Spanish"
torpid charm
Muma is adorable, my fellow LGBTQA brother
torpid charm
my ultimate OWL crush is Silkthread no doubt. I SWOON in sight of that man
THAT JAWLINE 💦
wet oyster
the cheekbones though
torpid charm
he can literally slice me into pieces with that jaw
silk linden
Spree has an impressive beard
that thing looks like it gets 3 mm long by the day and he has to define it every morning
shadowburn looks just so russian
wet oyster
i wonder why
silk linden
he can kill you with a look
torpid charm
Russian and handsome, we're always teasing him about not smiling in the Fusion discord
wet oyster
say "vodka!"
silk linden
what about this man http://liquipedia.net/commons/images/b/b8/GLASurefour.jpg
actually, I think he's gotten a bit fat as of late
excuse me, thicc
torpid charm
we call him Suredaddy
silk linden
birdring was cuter with glasses
torpid charm
Eqo is too fine
silk linden
he has commanding eyebrows
wet oyster
you're making me upset i started this conversation
torpid charm
show us more cuties @wet oyster
wet oyster
what?
wet oyster
oh
torpid charm
yo I'm sick my hands don't work, I'm sorry
torpid charm
a beaut
silk linden
Verbo is as close as we'll get to an Italian player in the OWL
torpid charm
he looks Italian kinda
wet oyster
the cutest cutie: https://i0.wp.com/owlreportnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/dayfly-overwatch.png?fit=300%2C300
silk linden
@torpid charm his name is Stefano Disalvo, no wonder he looks italian
wet oyster
no comments on dayfly?
torpid charm
Sado or Dayfly are never active in the Fusion discord so I never get to tell them how cute they are
silk linden
has he played? I haven't followed Philly much
torpid charm
yeah
wet oyster
he did once
torpid charm
WHO IS THAT
silk linden
yeah... and that's like, one of his better pics
wet oyster
Actually 0 chin: https://www.winstonslab.com/pics/players/owl_gesture.png
silk linden
I mean, korean esport players get mad pussy anyway
torpid charm
save some puss for the rest of us, bois
wet oyster
but actually why is profit just like fleta but someone used the horizontal scale thing instead of the diagonal https://www.winstonslab.com/pics/players/owl_profit.png https://www.winstonslab.com/pics/players/owl_fleta.png
torpid charm
Profit, my skinny bby
silk linden
btw I was so used to the OW esport scene being somewhat segregated, it's so cool that the OWL has the korean and NA and EU scene melding
torpid charm
we need more black people in OWL
my dad is set on me being the first African American female but I keep telling him that's gonna take forever
silk linden
I can't think of many black OW players off the top of my head
torpid charm
there are mixed boys but none who are fully African American or African
silk linden
tbh like 70% of the OWL is EU and Asian players? Something like that
torpid charm
ya ya
silk linden
it's where esports are most popular
torpid charm
I'm gonna look around because I also don't know too many people outside of OWL
silk linden
tbh I didn't even know some of the players currently in OWL
torpid charm
I wanna watch the World Cup cause I only watched a few matches
silk linden
even some who are now performing well
some teams like Boston did tryouts and picked up players without their popularity being a factor
torpid charm
yeah cause Uprising was a team that they wanted to build from the ground up
silk linden
so people called them out when they first announced the roster for picking up nobodies, but it turns out their team was actually well coordinated and skillful
it's an interesting approach for sure
copper solstice
How about those South Koreans nyxl though 
silk linden
they're good gamers
copper solstice
I think the best looking nyxl is ark
torpid charm
NYXL = Cuties
torpid charm
nah, it's definitely SBB top cutie
copper solstice
SBB?
silk linden
it's funny how in the league you have the remnants of staple teams like Kongdoo Panthera, GC Busan, Lunatic Hype, EnvyUS, Misfits, Rogue... and one of the teams that's dominating the most is the fuckin corndogs
OW dominance right there
copper solstice
Is that a beaver
torpid charm
@copper solstice Saebyoelbe
silk linden
you tried with that spelling
torpid charm
bruh I'm always so close, I try my best
silk linden
took me a while as well
copper solstice
I think my favorite looking guy who is not South Korean is like Fragi like he has a nice beard
torpid charm
Fragi looks like a Philly guy so he belongs on Fusion
copper solstice
I have only four favorite teams
torpid charm
I don't think I have enough room to love another team
silk linden
subscribe to 
's youtube channel and you'll start loving them
copper solstice
I love outlaws, nyxl, fusion and Mayhem. I have weird love for mayhem due to there pretty much the underdogs
torpid charm
@silk linden I wanted to be an Outlaws fan in the beginning but then I was like "mmmmmm nah"
I gotta support the underdogs so Shanghai and Florida have my extended love
silk linden
shangai are a disgrace though
they aren't just underdogs, they're a shitshow of mismanagement
like, I feel for the boys, but their org is disgraceful
they're trying to set things right now at least
torpid charm
I know, it's so very sad. they're trying though
I'm watching World Cup right now, tis interesting
copper solstice
@silk linden who? Mayhem?
silk linden
mayhem what
copper solstice
Mismanagement
torpid charm
lucid skiff
@torpid charm actually on the Boston uprising snow is a fully African player. He was born in Ethiopia. He doesn't rly get any playing time, but still african
torpid charm
really? wow
lucid skiff
yeah ik
torpid charm
thanks for letting me know!
grizzled mulch
well
most African American esport players tend to clustered around FGC
PC games is kind of rare
in the past there's Desro of Rise Nation
lucid skiff
whats fgc? not familiar
grizzled mulch
Fighting Games Community
torpid charm
I JUST LOOKED AT THE ROSTER AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT MAN IN MY LIFE. poor benched boy
grizzled mulch
well
silk linden
he's an unknown guy tbh
lucid skiff
lmao whats on it?
grizzled mulch
somebody has to be the bench boys
torpid charm
inspiration quotes, tweets about the team, GGs
lucid skiff
any highlights😏 ?
torpid charm
LOL I DON'T THINK SO
supple prism
makes free money?
lucid skiff
oof XD
torpid charm
I didn't go too far down
supple prism
probably still helps the team train
silk linden
bench boys get paid for doing nothing
lucid skiff
i mean he has to be at least decent right>
silk linden
good life
torpid charm
someone do research on that man pls
lucid skiff
lol i have one tab open on discord and another looking up things about snow
silk linden
discord tab?
supple prism
he uses browser version
silk linden
ew
lucid skiff
ye... unfortunate
torpid charm
trying to type in this discord makes my phone move unbearably slow so I try to use browser to talk to y'all if I can
silk linden
yeah, you know there's adesktop app for pc
torpid charm
wait
I can't even download it
I'm on a shit chromebook and they blocked the play store
torpid charm
or whatever it's called on the Chromebook
supple prism
cant just go to the discord website?
torpid charm
half of our stuff is blocked by the school, I can't do a lot
they were like "you spend a lot of time watching this Overwatch League, huh?" I graduate in like 4 months they need to leave me alone
limber pine
Twitter
silk linden
wonder if he's gonna play
red anvil
They can just pair him up with Spree on Rein maps
So Muma dont have to focus on synergising with two offtanks
scarlet spear
or just a backup, we've seen so many cases of players being sick already, better to have an actual tank for that case
gaunt acorn
OWL was featured on the CBC (canadian national broadcast station)
pretty cool to see futher mainstream exposure
frail remnant
ey!
hidden vault
Can someone explain why Seoul did not sign Gambler earlier as a 2nd support main was the obvious choice?
gaunt acorn
well the signing period didn't begin until mercy meta was over
gaunt acorn
maybe he wasn't trying out back then
they probably felt comfortable running tobi + rjh for stage 1
and figured they would analyze what they needed and sign another support during the signing period
hidden vault
there is Gido
hidden vault
okay and I realised not all the Lunatic Hai members went to Seoul
gaunt acorn
only esca and whoru didnt join
whoru because he's 16
oh ltj too
esca and ltj retired
scarlet spear
LTJ and esca went to PUBG
gaunt acorn
yup
scarlet spear
and failed pretty hard i think?
someone recently said that in the last pubg tourney they got last place
deft valley
can you say anyone didn't "fail pretty hard" if they're playing esports pubg
hidden vault
Best Zen and Ana together
gaunt acorn
winning ₩ 600,000
scarlet spear
well thats like
500 $
but at least they got something
so thats a 
the other KSV team got 2nd place tho
and a couple 1st places
red anvil
That page is outdated btw
LTJ is no longer on the roster
That's at least what my korean informers told me 
And its bullshit that Gido cant play support, he just needs playtime. Problem is that he dont synergize with Tobi like RJH does.
zealous thistle
what do you think the problem with dynasty was in round 1?
they look solid in the beginning, but after Fleta was shutdown many times, they kinda lost touch
scarlet spear
i doubt theres really a big problem with them.. its jsut people making them out to be some kind of superhumans, when koreans always said that the competition with western teams is much closer than people thought it is
red anvil
People acting like Seoul was in a big slump while having same score as the team in 2nd place
scarlet spear
yeah i dont get it either
also everyone saying they need a good 2nd dps when bunny has been solid as fuck
red anvil
People just follow everything Monte with there mouth open to swallow everything he says
frail remnant
It really annoys me when people blame bad zenyatta transcendences without realising that it was the tanks not peeling that caused the zenyatta to have to ult to stay alive.
Understandable if you have time to respawn and come back
red anvil
wrong channel?
frail remnant
yeah sorry
copper solstice
molten skiff
miro had really bad stage 1
now that mercy meta is over tho
i think i like the support balance for now
we see everyone
pearl stratus
Miro still seems super inconsistent to me, but its somewhat expected. He is the monkey meta, so everyone knows how he plays.
Also I didn't know Jake started doing analysis on his twitch. He basically goes over their games and explains what was happening/thought process. It's crazy boring, but interesting.
unborn portal
anyone know how much average or median salary for OWL is?
keen warren
Highest paid Pro was Ryujehong at 37k pre OWL, so I say prolly salary gotta be more than that, plus prize money. I'm guessing 60-65 a year for a top pro?
either supplemented by streaming/ promotion
All teams are backed with some pretty heavy Venture Capital so that sounds like pretty good for a pro
unborn portal
seems like a lot of opportunity cost. Those guys probably have short careers and 60k is not a lot of money
but if I could've played games for work id have done it too lol
keen warren
@unborn portal 60k Year salary plus prize winnings during the end stages
Taking it from CSGO which is about 8 years now, Average pro is about 5 years give or take with salaries increase vastly on skill
I mean a really good pro can live on just the salary and the prize money alone, most pros would prolly supplant it with streaming, Ad promos of sponsors etc
Not like they have much to pay for either, most teams sponsor team houses, free food gear etc
60k might as well just be pocketed straight, maybe the occasional 5k for yearly expenses or whatnot
Oh and tax
unborn portal
I don't understand the team house thing
keen warren
In what sense?
unborn portal
Seems like at some point they'd get sick of living with 5+ other dudes?
especially with money in their pockets
keen warren
Oh they do, it's one of the few things that's probably going to evolve with esports.
Some orgs are switching away from team houses more towards team offices
keen warren
In which the orgs just play for accomodation of the player
NiP and North (CSGO) are starting to have team offices
Same with nV and I think Faze? not too sure
keen warren
But yeah, Team Houses was more of a League of Legends idea that they started to apply to other esports because most pros were from Korea and it was cheaper to have them all ine place
keen warren
Yeah OWL players get paid the big bucks
unborn portal
I hope that number gets bigger as esports grows, would suck to see the players get shafted
keen warren
Well they get paid on what the market values them, if they continue to do well and the industry keeps growing
from the looks of it, it isn't stopping unless another global recession hits
I mean fucking hell we have PUBG esports now, and they're getting paid
jeez
unborn portal
I wish I was born 15 years later ._.
keen warren
I guess, but remember it's still videogames, at the end of the day, if the game doesn't survive for long or just the company that owns it goes under you lose your livelihood
keen warren
^^
unborn portal
True, but I imagine if you're good enough to go pro at some game you'd be able to get into another. Also I'm sure they have coaching/management oppurtunies if they have decent heads on their shoulders
which some do not
like, when xqc isn't good enough anymore, he's done forever
keen warren
Ex TF2 pros wer extremely lucky OW came along
scarlet spear
xQc has a good running stream at least
keen warren
TF2 and Quake pros