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exactly
people who block ads literally aren't paying a cent
Regular season games are averaging 90 - 140k viewers
The Dallas game today hit 180k
And that's just on the English Twitch channel
i'm just super proud
fuel is lookin pretty good in that game so far
Asia actually gives a fuck about Overwatch and esports (arguably more than EU)
shafting them would be counterproductive
and given that comparison, it makes sense to prioritise KR > EU
EU definitely gives more of a shit than SEA
More than China
Less than Korea
China just has a fuck tonne of people
china has weird internet ideals
So there doesn't need to be the same level of interest to get a way higher RoI
if you guys were from EU then you would understand.
we're from australia
i am from EU
@feral wing "but most europeans dont watch american sports anyways" what ? get out of your gaming bubble man. Tons of people watch american sports. NHL, NBA, NFL, hell even college football has bigger audience in EU than Overwatch League
^
premier league is literally at like 3 AM for us
Trust me dude, I fully fuckin understand shitty global deals and shitty global times for watching stuff online
F1 is like 2 AM sometimes
you might not care about american sports, that doesnt make them less of still a big watched sports in EU
not as big as football, but NFL games still get big viewership on TV
and NBA / NHL definitely have their designated viewerbase
you are completely missing the point Jackerco. OWL is US based for now, they are playing in US, that is their local time.
Yeah sure
muh EU feels tho
it's not just about you
and your experience isn't unique
other regions get fucked over by EU events too
^
like dude i hate waking up at like 4 AM just to watch eurovision
its pretty normal for australia/new zealand to get the bad end for that stuff
I think the problem is that OWL is a monopoly and there are no tournaments in other countries that would ahve different times for streams
@fresh arrow why would you watch eurovision ? 😄
the argument isn't whether eurovision is good or not, but the fact that the air time is inconvenient for AUS
@wintry kraken because it's bad 
also AUS is in it

so for the comedic value
the fuck kind of argument is that
I was about to say that even the eurovision air times are late in eu
damn dude is your bedtime like 10 PM or something
LMAO
it finishes at like 9 AM for us
there is a reason they do reruns for OWL
if there is something about screwing over people in EU in OWL, then it is not giving out those credits for OWL skins for majority of EU countries
yup
some countries don't allow that or there are excessive legal things to do to get it working
more like "we can't be bothered to study small country laws"
canadians have to answer a mathematics question per 100 tokens drop
@fresh arrow no issue with that in my country, but fuck studying a law of a 5M country
if you'Re that bothered with the tokens you can probably still set up a VPN and watch it then
even if they study it, some countries blatantly don't allow it
and it's based on the country that your bnet is associated with
people have checked
@scarlet spear i think it is based on your Blizzard settings imo
ah ok
i've heard that people have tried to change it but blizz is like "YOU CAn'T FOOL ME"
and again, there is a rerun for EU people to watch, just close chat to protect yourself from spoiler-idiots
and for credits, you can just let a laptop run over night streaming the damn thing
chances are higher that you get 100 token drop on the rerun too FeelsGoodMan
but muh twitch chat spam with thousands of people i don't even know
wait, you guys are still talking? kek
yeah we're getting along great
cool
Holy shit you're a master troll dude
How about you move on jackerco. It sucks. Move along

NO U TURNS
he pulled out the uno card
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/7ze4o8/you_can_get_owl_tokens_by_watching_the_replays/dupsiaq/ Not sure how many people saw this but...
crazy eight bitches
depends on how you look at it
best dps? well AKM has really been popping off after he joined dallas fuel
fleta was playing really well at the start of stage 1 but I dont think we have seen much of that lately.
hes still amazing though
but then again
as I am from Europe, I miss a ton of games and Seoul games arent at the top of the games I want to watch so Im probably wrong.
oh yeah
almost forgot about Pine lol
some great games recently
ShaDowBurn is also amazing but mostly on Genji, Pharah and Zarya
profit
i think birdring is making his way to best hitscan dps
anyone else?
he got player of the match in the NYXL game
that reminds me
why didnt akm get player of the match in the dallas fuel vs gladiators game
or mvp
or whatever it is called
because the people that decide that said that xQc did better
xqc I think
kroma
probably because he was great at making space for his team and letting aKm shine in that regard
just watch the dallas fuel vs gladiators game
thats my plan
it is beautiful
I honestly didn't mind this match. These are my favorite teams. So when they play each other i'm like eh... At least one of them are getting a W.
I got super hyped when SFS took the first map vs Seoul
Tobi saved Lijang for them
which teams are you guys rooting for?
SFS would have taken it but Tobi managed to boop 2 off the edge
Danteh and sleepy were carrying Babybay most of the series. I think Dynasty just shut him down.
London mainly, and Boston for my underdog team
My favorite teams are Dallas Fuel and Philadelphia Fusion
I thought Dallas Fuel would do really well
but
lol
I was rooting for Spitfire over NYXL in their match as NYXL need to lose more if the rest of the teams are gonna have a chance
Poor Florida. No one has faith in them lol
as fusion actually got taken to map 5 by shanghai
remember that?
when they beat nyxl and then almost lost to shanghai
and since mayhem are better than shanghai
it may be a 3-2
but I dont think fusion will lose
SDB and Carpe are great at what they do, they just need to improve spatial awareness and communication
- my gold opinion
I was once platinum
same
but those days are gone
on my torb account
I like how the matches in week 1 stage 2 are the same as week 5 in stage 1
London are my favourites but I expected them to be stomped
fusion got 4-0 by uprsing in week 5. then in week 1 they 4-0 them back
I just checked
in week 5
it was
Fusion 3 - 2 Mayhem
i doubt carpeburn have communication issues
Isn't dafran signing to Mayhem soon?
I mean with the other team members Pfre
dafran doesnt want to play professionally
but now that the meta is more traditional dive I think Fusion and Dallas will do much better
r.i.p dafran is an amazing dps player. I think any team would be happy to pick him up
except for those damn korean teams
hey boys. Next week we will see a Seoul vs Dallas game again
I love Mickie




lol wtf is that
its nice to see xQc is acting more professionally
I think he always had that in him Kroma
His streams are just hilarious
I consider him a realist.
AKM > Rascal
true dat
And when he makes wants to make a point, he's very blunt about it.
and straight forward
AKM > Seagull > Rascal
not true dat
Seagull is much better at Genji than Rascal
shadowburn best gengu
If you’re interested in playing competitive Overwatch for my organization, Axiom Gaming, DM me please.
theres are reason Rascal saw no play time on London, not just that profit/bird were better but Rascal wasn't that realiable
I think Profit is occassionally better than SDB
seagull used to be a great genji but he fell off
But he's not as consistant
Im just gonna keep doing my predictions
Outlaws 3 - 1 Uprising (maybe 3-2)
Valiant 4-0 Dragons
I dont think Effect is that good anymore
Like Striker might be better
Valiant 3-1
will be interesting to see Dallas Fuel this stage
Now that they have AKM and mercy isnt close to being as meta as she was
I think they will do much better
but good enough to hit the top 6?
idk
they will pass gladiators though
they are already tied with them
wait actually
fuel probably wont pass gladiators next week though
they are facing
First Dynasty, then Valiant
Glad
in week 3
got it really bad
dallas should definitely pass glad up after wee k3
Gladiators are facing Shanghai Dragons (ez win) and Seoul Dynasty (ez loss)
yep
they should
but it probably wont happen next week
how I see it atm
Dallas will probably lose both their games next week
Week 3 they got Spitfire and NY
or maybe they can beat valiant
Its good as London has had 2/3 of its hardest opponents already
Depends on if Valiant or Boston step up against them
I was just putting in my opinion on London
wait valiant?
i thought it was NY
no its Valiant
NYXL are facing shock and fusion in week 3
So I think Dallas Fuel will lose against seoul
then gladiators will win against Dragons
ah my b
I think it would go 3-2 in dallas' favour against seoul
then Dallas Fuel have a 50/50 chance of winning against valiant I would say
so Im unsure
but gladiators
will lose against seoul
So you guys aren't leaving any room for the possibility of an upset?
There was quite a few underdog wins in stage 1.
there were
but lets not take that into consideration atm plz
dad
So Im predicting that Fuel will pass Gladiators in week 3
but not in week 2
unless we get some upsets
I'll go along with that
doesnt change that Houston are most likely to beat them
I hate the korean teams because its extremely predictable that one of them will win
although we have gotten a couple of upsets
Eh
lets just say boston lose against houston
for the ''argument's'' sake or whatever its called
boston will have a 6-6 record
in week 2 boston will face NYXL and Mayhem
my predictions are: Loss against NYXL, win against Mayhem
giving them a 7-7 record
if we continue with the predictions
if things go the way of dallas fuel
I think Boston can beat NYXL
we will see a boston - dallas fuel match in week 4
lmao how exciting wouldnt it be to have dallas fuel and Boston Uprising have an equal W/L and then face eachother in week 4
I still think Fusion will stay above Uprising
It'll probably be one of the most anticipated matches at that point. You have a team who couldn't hold it together in stage 1 now starting to work their way up the ladder. And Boston wont have any of it. Not to say boston will win. They're going to fight like they want to hold that lead.
but with AKM I think Fuel would take it
By this week, the points will also really start to matter.
in that case
well
Fusion: 24-24-1 = 0
Uprising 27-21-0 = +6
Uprising have a higher point score when it comes to W/L/T in maps
but fusion have a better win/loss when it comes to full matches
they're pretty equal
funny how stage 1 week 5 and stage 2 week 1 are the only weeks where Dallas Fuel have won both of their matches
kek
I think Dynasty is going to fall a bit
idk
this meta will be good for them
same with dallas fuel
I think this stage will be the stage where dynasty and fuel climb
Well again, I'm looking at the points.
This last match they had against shock, despite winning 3-1, they only had 1 point over shock through the entire series. 7-9 dynasty.
Basically, while Dynasty is winning, it's not by much at all vs these teams in the lower ladder.
I think they'll continue to struggle against teams in the top side of the ladder.
They definitely didn't have a strong showing against one of the lesser teams
We'll have to see how it progresses though -- even NYXL lost a map against Mayhem
just means that the skill gap between the teams is shrinking
I think in the case of Seoul in particular they were one of the teams that were a bit overrated by facing pretty easy teams in the beginning of stage 1
The best team they beat was Houston, then they lost to Valiant the next week
In fact, their last time against Shock might have been even closer, 3-2 with a +6
but i just dont understand how a team with so many of the best players in the world in their roles isn't easily wrecking everyone
Because one is like "Cheerio mate," and the other is like "Hi, I'm proper," and another is like "POGGERS POINT TRASH MY DOGGIE," And another is like "Mi Chao How Wong Pai."
damn this dallas vs gladiator game is insane
Dallas' last few seconds of attack on Gibraltar ❤
last point of gibraltar = rEaLlY hArd
I get the feeling they are pre-arranged to prevent unfair switch ins, as for the Gladiators I'm not really sure
could have something to do with how they are planning for Stage 2 matches
im excited that my fusion bois 4-0'd boston
The article on the OWL site explaining the new token system is available translated in Italian, despite the system itself not being available in Italy

Cheers to those few Swiss Italians I guess
“Let me tell you all about how you can’t get this”
Whos FCTFCTN joining again?
cri
Its translated to Dutch also, and nobody speaks Dutch but the Dutch
Yeah FCTFCTN is in Houston
Also every Dutch speaks English, so it's doubly useless
What are good YT channels that talk about the 🦉?
#2 Tracer
I respect his expertise after he predicted Dallas's downfall before the season started
Even though he's admittedly an NV hater
Its nice to have an opinion from someone who's been in similar positions
@silk linden Everything OWL is really good to catch up on news etc.
y'all got predictions for the day
you think Houston and Boston will be close or a sweep? I'm getting 3-1 vibes
Dragons are about to get a W tonight. I'm feeling it
3-1 vibes here too
The matches are gonna be so boring
Boston might be close
If boston lose this one
and keep losing then that will open up a window for dallas fuel to climb two spots and overtake uprising within the next few weeks
performance against Fusion might not be the best indicator of a team
not keep losing every match
they dont need to lose much for dallas fuel to have the opportunity to pass them
I don’t think outlaws will even win against boston
Oh they will.
if fusion beat mayhem they will have an 8-4 record putting them on a shared 4th place with spitfire.
And fusion will beat mayhem
What i mean even if the matches are important the winner is mostly clear
XQC talking about Soe and i am dying here laughing
He is implying she is hot and stuff like this
ok he has a point there
EU friendly OWL 
London City OWL match soon
Blizzard gonna spread OWL far and wide to EU so we lowly peasants can enjoy it at times that aren't 4AM
Make it like the NHL, put in the odd team from Vancouver or Montreal
xQc, Surefour gets 4 other Canucks and make the Canadian Superteam
Call it the Toronto Titans
Agilities is canadian
verbo
Bani
all canadian
Don't do a montreal team tho
And don't do toronto either
they would always lose
oof RIP
A toronto team would be the new shanghai, until they get a star player, then they would be the mayhem
And a montrral team would hire a french general manager who does a horrible job
is my discord broken
Yes
Don't think so
hell yes hes in
but i missed the start as well ¯_(ツ)_/¯
No SDB oof
sup bois
i love that mayhem cap
did the game already start?
ye
yeah
yikes
THAT BAIT
lmaooo
Poor Mayhem
go fusion
they just said that neither carpe nor eqo died during that map
also eqo's insane
notice that logix and carpe had similar damage, but carpe had 3x the elims and 2x the final blows
that's called trash damage
why tf is everyone spamming

Yo EQO is nutty 👀
eqo 
ayy nep's on mercy
if he doesn't get at least 2 battlemercy moments I'm disappointed
there's one
Logix just threw that down the pit 
following Fragi lmao

That boop!
C E R E B R A L
hi mom
Mayhem just left their zen on his own with tviq which lost them that point i feel
whats everyone at? 36 tokens?
Dunno. haven't checked
just want to check with the random nature these things have
I have 0 tokens KEK

they only tuned in for those hot stats
I only watch for the sign memeage
Drops activate?
Where did you see it?
Have you linked your Blizzard account at least lol
This place isn't very busy 
Spoopy 👀
i'm mostly in the philly server match chat tbh
this is a kind of "hey we're fans of the league" chat
they're a "FUCK YEAH PHILLY LETS GO" chat
I'd like to see the mayhem room
probably got like 3 people in it
Let roadhog fly 
i do want to see that
K stop 😂😂
👌
oh shit hollywood let's go
eqo nutty af
he deserved that bm lmao
carpe poppin off
fair
he's probably just excited to finally be playing
Why didn't he play S1?
oh
and that's why you don't BM
nope
he was on the team since 11-03-2017 like all the others
then idk why they didnt play him
reported for throwing
Was he too young?
i think it's just because of SDB
nope
lol
hes turning 19 on may 10th
if your name is three letters and you say the letters themselves
you're an asshole
dems da rules
Lmao that Moira bounce ball
0 respect
chat is very easily entertained
EQO wasn't in LA for stage 1
I don't know the cause exactly but he posted a post with the plane ride pic during off-stage
yea
GG
an hour ago
and whats the score
~1hr-ish
ah shit
3-0 philly
3-0 philly

3-0 now baby
They gave time to EQO
is EQO really better?
not necessarily
Hard to say
I'm so proud of my boys right now

eqo is NUTTY AS FUCK
Different playstyles
he's playing better so far but that might be because people don't have "tape" on his style
SDB was also nutty tbf
but SDB is better with blades
but he's definitely good
Don't worry guys. EQO will get banned for BM pretty soon so we'll see SDB 
LOOOL
36 elims to 10 LUL
9*
eqo also finished with one death
N U T T Y
rolled and smoked my doggies
He is overrated. Just because he was popping off early stage 1 everyone labelled him as a fucking god. But like any player, you focus them down and then they can't do shit.
Same with jjonak
Oh man get used to it 
the purge happened lul
how is it going guys?
👋
btw glad london won yesterday
Yh it was a good match
^^
why are you even looking at the twitch chat lmao
idk
I hate to admit it but i kinda get entertained by twitch chat
also when someone goes ham it's cool to see it react
Just makes it feel more alive IMO
fair, but when it gets stupid you can't really be surprised
Oh absolutely not. When it's just spam i just don't look or tab out
now with my new chair i get sleepy don't even feel like chatting, just watch and relax
is this an ad for chairs now
How do you even sit with those cushions
lol
its a tide ad
oof
@marsh pumice Is that a Razer keyboard?
Nice
peripheral-discussion 👀
^^
That's lit yo
ty
you have the coolermaster, they pretty cool let me find
i was thinking of getting the G13 from logitech
the hell were they doing
Cooler Master MasterKeys Lite L, RGB it's mem-chanical
Dunno shop around ¯_(ツ)_/¯
what if i get the g213 for only 50
or that
thats good too i guess
the coolermaster is like 30
Carpe 👀
Carpe dirty
damn dude
i do want one of those small one hand keyboard things though just so i have more space
I prefer watching this Mercy to the old one
She's no longer the focal point of every fight
when she's being played
@sweet hamlet yes you can get the combo or just the keyboard
Lol ok guys let's not get too far on the peripherals now xD!
Continue that in general or smthn
sorry
yeah and now you're only getting mercy from people who do well on her
rather than everyone because it's a must pick
i wouldve liked to see dspstanky in owl but hes a one trick and he quit ;-;
calvin said he wanted to keep streaming
yeh
calvin would be the best cree in owl if he was there
DSPStanky was on a T4 tier and didn't stand out at all
tier 4 tier?
team* oops
damn
no one trick would get a spot in OWL
even a very good one
but he was a onetrick
Philadelphia Fusion for the win. 
it's just too inconsistent
We have plenty of Tracer one-tricks tho 
i think wraxu is good enough for owl
wraxu is a one trick tho
they can play not-tracer though, we've seen it
i know he started playing other heroes
I know its a joke lol
but still
alright lol
widow
ive seen his widow
and junk

its fucking amazing
People like him and Calvin are mechanically good enough probably
yh
but they probably dont wanna join + no idea how they are in a team setting
no full hold?:(
calvin would be in owl if he didnt want to keep streaming
they got polite and gave them space and they got the point
defo
timthetiltman would not be in owl even if he tried really hard lol
wow
hes entertaining, hes a streamer, but he just isnt that good
that rez on poko
tim is kinda boosted
🐟 lets go
and that's it
yeh
gg
GG
GG
^^
wow
GG
G fuckin G
they will fall short, mayhem in general
8-0 start hyyyype
that's kindve sad
does this prove that EU isnt the best region? cuz mayhem is built off of the winner of contenders EU
and theyre one of the worst teams in owl

I mean most of the eu players are split among the teams
40-7 the fuck
Could Dafran be OWL league worthy
yeah ofc
his tracking is godlike
He doesnt wanna though
4-7 as mercy lul
literally
45 Koreans wew

27 eu players
its not that bad
called it
didnt recieve tokens lol
Is florida able to use Zappis yet? What is he supposed to play?
Philly Dilly

can someone send the link of eqo's bm
YOU ALREADY KNOW. THE DUO, I LOVE THEM

Rare footage of Zuppeh in the Florida Mayhem backline, trying to peel off flankers by himself. #OWL2018 https://t.co/UPXTh5LhGQ
better than sdb-carpe?
:thinking:
Good to see carpe in his element
i have to say this first
that kid looked like he was forced to go with his dad
the second kid
what was that guy
was it actually tim
Idk who that guy is but he's hilarious lol
didnt he get suspended?
idk how he did that with a straight face
i don't think tim has a stretcher in his ear so
yeah, just looked weirdly alike
Cause he was fat? 
that and he did just have similar faces
Huh. I missed it
tit the tat man
Tomthetutman
tittittitman
where the women at in owl
J
KE
NO JAKE???

ok whys rawkus so hot 👀
rawr "XD" kus
Is Jake benched again?
yes
Lmfao
THAT LOGIC MADE NO SENSE
Makes sense
TEAMS HAVE DIFFERENT PLAYSTYLES
Jake vs Fleta wtf
JUST BECAUSE SOME TEAMS BEAT OTHER TEAMS IT DOESNT MEAN THEYTHEY ARE BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE TEAMS
Lmao
My stream keeps buffering 👀
McCree Fleta would wipe Jake
jake vs fleta that is the most random versus
J
K C E R
Spitfire wins against NYXL, Outlaws wins against Spitfire, therefore Houston are better than NYXL? Makes no sense. Teams have different playstyles, tactics and strategies. We wont know for sure till we see Houston vs NYXL
So whos everyone's favourite for this match?
i think houston
not predictions, just favourites
i'm calling the 4-0
should i be cheering for houston or boston here whos the underdog
lol camera fails
boston is underdog
Too busy showing replays then realises the battles nearly half over
damn i actually like houston better
I really dont like Houston
He got away 
muma is an amazing tank but otherwise i dont know anyone else lol
how did that DVA die in the transcendance
coolmat is a good dva
yeah
I want London to win so, houston getting stomped would be amazing
and muma has a great roadhog too if i recall.
i think coolmatt's the better hog
is it bad if i only watch owl for the drama and the cute nerds
yes
yes and no
back
i like watching the OWL meme compilations after on youtube
drama yea, but cute nerds is understandable
what "cute nerds" are there in owl
jehong
pine
mostly mickie
❤
mickie
tobi
mickie is great
i wanna marry mickie
is linkzr a "cute nerd"
umm have you seen my beau taimou
🤔
i watch for Rawkus hair
profit is cringeworthingly shy
The real cute nerd hasnt played yet
korean nerds are very cute just cause theyre so shy
fleta's kind of cute
fleta is super cute
Pray for Mendo 🕯
Why the fuck did they dive
MENDO IS A CUTE ANIME GIRL DO NOT LIE
ill say it, birdring
nice
boston's main weakness: defence
Get clapped yo
hey i stream on https://t.co/Xlp762W6jJ sometimes come check me out ;) https://t.co/269bZoiaLA
232
1224
JUST LOOKAT HIM
taimou is cute tho 
Fissure looks like a classic villian
ive said this before but taimou looks like the average finnish dude
but chubbiert
rip taimou
6 minutes EZ 👏
when you used to be a dps god but you've been demoted to tank because there are so many people better than you
reminds me of harryhook
taimou is the original mr good aim
he is a bench boi
what was that trans
he's on a team but we havnt seen him
benchddqd
damn thats a bad illness if its that long
iddqd is on sf shock
is he?
bench boi
i thought they just dont play him because babybay is a better player
he's well again but he's just not played enough yet i guess
rip boston
sinatraa isnt magically going to fix their problems
muma poppin offff
Linkzr just melted lucio
i can jerk off all day to linkzrs aim
what the fuck
whos got the best tracking on owl
who else saw Linkzr's classically shit tac visor
yeah that was sick
great tracking imo is so much more exciting than good aim in general
it's zunba
on soldier probably aKm right now
aKm
zumba zarya tracking is pretty sick yeah
truu


