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Lol
already almost 1.6 mill
jesus
and the first stream is still 2hrs off
Wednesday's start time didn't change
It's thursdays and Saturdays where you'll see the change
Triggers me so much how it's so late for EU


all matches start 1am here, except sunday
I guess they have their statistics which shows which time zone is most profitable ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
gmt+1 btw
I mean it's probably also at least partially for the players sake
global league btw
First & second matches today should be pretty sweet
BTW it's only for the first skin
I'm pumped for OWL to be back!
Although I did like the earlier start times on thursdays
Imagine getting all 26 skins
as my classes end earlier on thursday
its not 40 mil for each skin
nah they'll presumably change up how they're distributing them later on
you can see that the next milestone there is a lot closer
i thought they were team milestones?
Bits
it's no closer
next one looks like 50 mil ish
the line is nearly the same length
it's not exactly the same
hmm
but it's not only 10 mil
yeah
actually
the other ones look the same
but the one from first to 2nd looks different
it's because the icon is bigger
probably just because it's populated
i gotta read this shit again
LOL people are already spamming bits in chat
capitalism is good
weird thing is, 5 weeks of regular owl, 4 rewards
so how long until the forums are spammed with "I thought I got in-game emotes not twitch emotes!!!"
I measured
So am I correct that
they haven't announced what the rewards for team-based milestones are?
4 rewards 4 stages
im guessing it just adds up to the number of rewards they have?
First gap 1.4cm second is 1.2cm and 3rd is 1.4cm
Hey man sym is great
let's look for clues about hero 27...
don't worry
they're gonna make sym meta so people stop complaining about sym one tricks
just wait
Why isn't junkrats emote just a picture of jakes face 
I think we might see Sym like twice on Hollywood Point A
Against tanks she isn't terrible
J
ke
taimou pulling out the sym tonight, wait for it
...2600 bits ~30-35$... highest twitch subscription is 25$... hmmmmmmmmmmm
Effect afks after the Sym pick and leaves the venue
the normal emotes aren't animated, right?
correct
imagine all emotes being animated... 10/10 make twitch chat great again
I mean most of them are pretty bad
like all of the team emotes? 
London Spitfire would have a word with you
ney
boston just looks like it gets a golden shower 
Outlaws went way up too
also none of this money goes to the teams directly
should have a certain % go to the team that you donate to
good joke cutting into their profits
they already cut in enough with the hero skins
yeah, handpainted grey joy
1,8 mil bits already
!tokens
pls no
!claim
!tokenmvp xqc
this is the reason xQc wasn't removed from the league already
nate nanzer watches you even when you sleep
the money they could make with switching the skins to the team aways
...
they say that there are rewards for each team reaching goals too
they just didn't say what as far as I can tell
no, only the top tier bit warriors will claim them
As individual, team-based, and global Cheering milestones are reached, you can unlock rewards including Hero emotes, Overwatch League skins not yet available in game, and more.
๐คท
i wonder when league is gonna jump on the token train
first day of stage 2! what are y'all predictions if you have any ๐
vs 
vs 
vs 
Fuels getting 4-0'd, calling it
Valiant, Dallas and shock to win imo
Inb4 xqc tilts and throws the game
are LAG plaing with fissure in today's matches?
Ye I don't see Fuel losing to Shanghai lol
that match was rigged last time
OWL stream live, guess we get some watchpoint
going for the negative record
why don't you donate some bits
same
same
gonna lose feelsgoodman clap
London= roids
agreed
JAKE
whos jake? some cheap imitation of J LUL KE ?
Guys I'm from the future, xQc is going to cast with Monte now and the League is comprised of just Fleta
Yes, you'll see
WHOS READY TO GET XCITE
First caster in esports history to be suspended & fined
make it happen and turn the subreddits into this https://streamable.com/kg4uo
whos ready to watch the pros dictate what ladder comp is like after a couple of days
vs 
vs 
vs 
Totally not like I already watched Watchpoint
is geguri playing for dragons?
Nah
yes, but shes not in LA yet
oh
they apparently have some visa issues, so they're not expected to play before stage 3
Ugh I thought OWL would start 20 mins ago not in 40, dont wanna stay up till 1
oh damn
@magic zinc that's the EU OWL life
I have work in the morning though ๐ข
Match would be over at 3am no thanks
in your opinion, what were the best matches houston played so far?
stay up
I wanna watch some vods
outlaws vs spitfire
vs boston was pretty intense
they won one and lost one
im curious if jakerat can thrive
honestly it probably will
seeing how dumb junk still is
NEW MAPS 
I didnt think OWL EU life could be worse but they managed to do just that, I can watch 1 match a week now
ye
its got route 66 and hollywood
This is my fav Map Pool by far
KR and Lijang best maps according to jeff's poll, right
couldn't agree more
Cant really be topped imo
maybe by stage 4
They had to take EU's needs into consideration to spurn them so hard
KR wins by a land slide
Oh, you need earlier matches? HAHAHAHA THEY'RE LATER NOW!
then lijiang
i like gibraltar, but in general KR is such a well made map
hollywood
king's row also looked beautiful before the art change
Numbani is my favorite map
still great though
They took EUs sleeping schedule into consideration by making it genuinly impossible to watch instead of it being hard to watch, theyre taking care of us
just a bit bummed
I voted lijang but I'm 100% cool with KR taking the crown (eh)
it's such a solid map
lmao fire ๐ฆ
funny that their best map is like, the first one they released
KR was one of the first maps made for release?
I voted for Moonbase Alpha as a troll
It makes sense, its the map they used for internal testing and had the longest dev time
that sounds about right
some of the most recent ones are the worst... they are getting weird with their experiments
anubis does have the design of a first map
All post-launch stuff bar Oasis has been horid imo
they were play testing in a rough anubis
one of the ways you can tell is usually the skybox
Oasis is solid and I still can't judge blizzworld, but horizon, junkertown, eichen, they have issues
early maps like hanamura and anubis have low skyboxes
how old is this watchpoint wtf ?
thats smart big

never thought of that
Blizzworld is a big ResidentSleeper imo surprised people arent more upset about it
Its last weeks
I barely got to play it
ye
im wondering what the meta will be
blizzworld is kinda bad on offense
its pretty but yeah
anubis is one of the few maps not to have bottomless pits
that too
I can actually only think of two
early maps have very few bottomless pits
and when they do, they're outside of the main parts of the map
pls no
It has a big choke on Point A with 1 tunnel... which goes around back into the choke
I forgot how slow this server is on mobile oh god
blizzworld can only be a pirate ship between point A and the castle
yeah, the payload part
As if streets-phase ever mattered
Maaaaybe on Gibraltar/King's row, the others are usually sweeps
Dont think I've ever seen a Numbani streets hold
no
It doesnr
Whenever the casters are too adamant there's never numbani streets holds, there's a numbani street hold
No visas
:^(
And no its old roster
oh
new roster isnt supposed to happen till stage 3 most likely
well
New roster could beat Dallas LOL

no visa's yet and no scrim time
dallas also have new people
Dallas Fuel 
Dallas new people won't help
yeah fuel could play AKM and rascal today if they want to
Dont think Rascal will be playing yet, hoping for akm tho
Dallas will win this stage
Benching ladder champs for actual pros will improve their coordination
yeah doubt rascal will play, akm tho 
well atleast new maps and breathing room for other supports
What ladder champs
Jjonak ladder champ monkaS
Dallas' problems have nothing to do with needing to replace individuals players, that's just a potential solution to ignoring the problem
they should probably play xqc tbh, over cocco
depending on maps yeah
throwcco
ye
Oh GOD
most of these maps will prolly be xqc tho
I am SO HAPPY the map pool is changed
J LUL AKE
wow u butchered that
how did outlaws get second ๐ค
What's the vid I'm not watching
By map score
Cos they went on huge 4-0 streak right
It's that watchpoint thing pre game but it's not live so they think rascal and fissure are still in london
outlaws is 2nd right now
i see them more as a #3 or #4 team honestly
pine getting his dicked sucked again
Ye ofc, they came 3rd in playoffs
yeah i dont think they will keep their standing that high up
Unfortunately we have a silly map score system
the pine origins that came out today/yesterday from NYXL is so good
i love those videos
Playoffs are the most important bit!!
kinda went into OWL blind of how the teams were doing besides dragons
so i thought that outlaws was good, but not great
i remember alicus hyping up shanghai
and then we get that they didnt even trial their players
Unfortunately a lot of MY were underage and retired so they couldn't pick them up
at least they picked up zhufanjun now
The kids couldn't sign anyway ๐
Most important ones
from MY
ah
so its not a growing old thing
The reflex thing is imperceptible
nah
i'd imagine that adults probably have better reflex than just kids
Mechanics probably don't degrade till like 45
esports is just hard
Hi all
hi gr33n
you have to be very passionate about something to participate
then your passion is turned into very very hard work endlessly
someone in mid 20s or after also has problems trying to compete in a league that gave you basically no salary till recently
not easy
gotta pay the bills
im hyped and missing the league
well thats reassuring
league will be fun to see with less marcy
if there is gonna be a mercy its gonna be a good one like ark
im excited to see what happens
or pharah
nyxl rematch lets go
I felt robbed with that loss
Against who?
its not the first game though
Ye 3rd day or something
well im not salty enough to dismiss spitfire's great team play
and plus they were exhausted too
so thats amazing
J
AKE
i dunno who to be a fan of anymore
I'm a fan of 1. Dallas 2. Spitfire
i guess nyxl since that's probably the one i have the closest relation to
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Plus I support some individuals on other teams
pine sealed nyxl for me
and flower is coming soon too
but I just love the whole team
and their synergy
Their dps lineup is stacked
yea idk
You can't say "SKILLRAT" in Twitch chat apparently
good thing libero can play the entire roster
haha
isnt that auto moderated?
I guess that was too spammed
I like how the guy who can play the entire roster is called Libero
seems semi childish to block words like skillrat in chat
fitting
thats how its always been
It's poor auto moderating
theres some really dumb words you cant use
Some of the mods were complaining about it
oh
The mods are willing to do it properly
I get banned so easily there
i just don't type anything in twitch chat honestly
that sucks
why are there so many fletas lmao
Because fleta is best dps
so many Fletas
I love Carpe 
I still find it funny birdring's idol is seagull if that statement is actually true lol
birdring&profit 2 gud
Only hyped up cos streamer really
numlocked, mistakes, iddqd, mendo, grimrealities
yeah

numlocked felt terrible last I checked
Carpe is replaceable now that Philly have snillo
That'll be interesting if they still run dive
Philly dive in stage 4 might be stronger than the Korean teams
snillo is a nut
Shadowburn genji snillo tracer Sado winston
but carpe is also a nut
Every pro I've talked to has rated snillos tracer quite highly
Over carpes
No flexibility tho
is he really? i never saw him shine in tourneys
meanwhile carpe can play widow/genji/tracer/pharah/mccree all at owl level
bamboozle in 10 minutes ๐ฎ
I'm very ready for Sado
its hard to shine on dps when your teammates arent as good as you @scarlet spear
and outside the only thing i know is that he night queued a 3 stack and dodged good teams for rank 1
watch it or else i will
no dps can really look impressive when there is no space created for them to work
do things to you
yes ma'am
These game times are very good for Australia ๐ for once everyone else has bad times instead of us woooo
i mean we'll see soon if he gets played
yeah we will
as much as I love Fragi, I know Sado can go out there and fuck some shit up in a good way
god i wish i was in central america right now
i'm actually going to be up for way too long.
fragi is probably the best aggressive reinhardt in all of overwatch
I agree
may not be huge iq, but he knows how to frag literally
he doesnt have the technical play of some other rein players, like
cocco is a very good rein player but hes passive
fragi just barely right clicks at all
as much as I love the change that was made about how all the weekday matches start at 7 p.m. EST now, I'm gonna have a lot of VODs to catch up on because I cannot function the next day if I spent the night before watching OWL till I fall asleep
ya
tbh you just can't win when it comes to time due to all the different timezones but they're trying to make it bearable so I can't hate
hoping for a Shanghai win in stage 2 honestly
i cant see them not winning a game
EU haHAA
match*
i want la glads to slam w/ fissure
if i watch all the owl matches, imma be up until 1:00 AM
thank god that vods exists
if i watch none of the matches
same
on Fridays, I always stay up all night to watch all the matches
gonna lose feelsgoodman clap
why cant i see my stats
wait ok real question
its sombra
oh boy, spectator video
so basically when everyone donates 40,000,000 bits we ALL get the tracer skin?
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OOOOOOH IT'S STARTING I AM EXCITED
WOO SHANGHAI
thought it was gonna be free stuff
the interface keeps on crashing though, so i can't even check it
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
do we still get rewards if we watch off the twitch app?
booooooo
NO MERCY YAY
how many people can the arena fit that the OWL is taking place
stage
who finna catch that W for this first match?
it fits 400 people
la
ryujehong on ana? 
easy
Why boo?
400!
sooooooooon
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
im ready for the jehong ana 
sooooooooboooooooooooooooooooooooooo
READY ๐ TO WATCH ๐ MY ๐ BOY ๐ XQC ๐ POP ๐ OFF ๐
can anyone here confirm that new shanghai players arent playing until mid-stage 2?
its kind of a joke since his name is similar
HYPE
can confirm
@dusk garden they dont have visas yet and are still in korea/china, they most likely wont play till stage 3 considering scrims etc
rip
fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu
yeah, the newly signed players don't play until mid stage since visas and shit
gonna lose
effect: no i shanghai
feelsgoodman clap
What's the map pool?
idk
feelsbadman clap
its in the pins
ya
kings row, volskaya, route 66
I was gonna list them
Hanamura
Volskaya Industries
Lijiang Tower
Nepal
Hollywood
King's Row
Route 66
Watchpoint: Gibraltar
I sure do love me some Route 66
I love the new maps
Super looking foreward to Hanamura
this is a better map pool
I wanna see that 2CP BS
I love King's Row
hanamura is my only 2cp that i like
^same
kings row starting map 
says kings row plays dorado music
god im excited for kings row, my fave map
thonker
I like Hanamura, the 2CP BS is just awesome to watch
game 3 is kings row
its good
reinhardt
amazing*
all these thirsty people samming S โค E
you know i had to do it to em
that jeff kaplan sign LMAO
and zarya
ah
and lucio
That sign is amazing
lol
RJH looks
wtf hapenned to jehong
fresh
kings row is zaryas playground
honestly i really like gibraltar
Soe makes me melt
didnt know ryujehong became a mid 30s bearded dude
i love both teams though
has a good amount of variation
she is gorgeous
SEOUL because FRICK LA
@serene tendon you would make a good youtuber with family friendly pg clean stuff like that
dont over use frick though
only small amounts of swearing allowed on yt
The auto feed for your event tokens stops working after 2mins
i like seeing the total cheer bits as well
FRick hck cr*p
im only not cursing because i dont really care
Where is that Menace?
under the stream
if i cared more id be cursing
you can see the total cheers
but it stops working after 2mins
and you gotta reload the page
i predicted how to get owl tokens
before they released it
i hooked blizzard acc to twitch as soon as they annouced the idea
before it officially started i got like 14 or something tokens
oh you unlock twitch emotes?
thought it was in game emotes
nah
That's insane
Volskaya is 
I went to the stream right after the article came out for maybe like 10 mins, and there was easy 25-30k in the chat
well now i don't care about bits
loads of people dropping 3-4k+ bits
ye
@tight vault they arent wrong
I'm just glad I get tokens for watching on the OWL website
ANA 
NO MERCY 
im just glad i dont have to watch horizon lunar colony anymore.. this is the best 2cp map
JEHONG POP OFF 
HERE WE GO
jehong gon fucc
LETZZ GOO
no he went to zen 
GL HF

god is dead
it shows their jersey numbers next to their names now in the bottom left
someone dm me with the emotes when you get them
No Mercy in sight. Bless Papa Jeff
smh twitch ate my bits

That was a great hold
godddd im so glad mercys gone
yeah
different supports on each side PogChamp
No Mercy makes this SO much more enjoyable to watch
@jovial jewel yas
ACTUAL WEIGHT WHEN A PLAYER DIES 
di_VE_
LETS GO CHAMP
bunny mvp
BUNNY THO
BUNNY POPPED OFF
Dat clean
REWARDING SKILL
๐

yeah
He's playing too aggro
SOON POPPED OFFFFF
OWL ACTUALLY FUN TO WATCH 
yes
yikes
Soon is carrying rn
gettin excited for agilities ult
wow that was a panic EMP
nerves
pls swop unku
reaper in OWL?!?!?!?!?!?!?
its not the first time he got played...
fleta reaper ๐ค
bunny getting pocketed
THE TRANS
no tick unlucky
2cp lul
no mercy .. looks sooooooo odd xD
no ticks
LUCIO
ANA โค
Hero 27 confirmed to be wallridey healy frog guy
Idk about Reaper into Tracer and Sombra
ryu ana poggers
I mean it's good vs Winston but idk
ya
? reaper is totally fine into sombra
Oh really?
not the worst pick to take there
reapers fine on this map cuz its rlly close
Oh fair enough
NA UT
but usually its p shit into sombra
Envy what
you cant shift out but you still have 250 HP
reaper is just oddly good on 2cp
HMmmmmmmm
Oh shit fair enough then
lmao bronze chat
RJH ana 
Yeah
well 2cp 2nd point is close on all of the maps so reaper can do more than normal
can't wait to see geguri play
trash= seoul 
Reaper Ana meta? 
Holy
SOON POPPED OFFF
Valiant tight
seoul last push
jehong 
4 ults
BEYBLADE INC
they have like 3-4 comming soon
they have blade sd no defensive ults tho
valiant wants that top 3
Beyblade flashbacks 
beyblade 
That was so nice to avoid dragonblade from everyone
That was a REALLY nice last push
Lucio in every team and no Mercy in sight. Now this is the good shit right here
!!!
That's how to push 2CP
noice
DID YOU SEE THAT NO REG
no
Yeah
overtime 2 strong
That no reg was hard
on tracer
thats what happens when you use 5 ults against a team thats doing a dry push ๐ค
I saw that
at the end
It was disgusting
doomfist 
tracer shouldve died
It's the patience though
To not force Death Blossom just cause he's nano'd
GEGURI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they probs still wouldve won the point but that tracer shouldve died
nope
Geguri wont play for a while cause visa issues tho
from the last swing
It's funny how mercy was replaced by another dominant hero in the meta, yet no one is complaining because Lucio is nearly as AIDS as she was
@pearl cedar ehhh????
ana though
val used 4 ults to win a push against dynasty when dynasty was doing a dry push, thats an ez loss
SHD additions arent even in LA yet, so they cant play
@silk linden lucio isnt broken or aids though
Seriously blizzard, never make mercy viable again
If Fleta dies at the start of a fight, Seoul lose
They are leaning on Fleta hard with this comp
honestly old mercy would be so fun to watch lol
tru
dva is high damage output too
@silk linden moira will get buffed .. no need of 2 supps anymore
@red canyon ew
genji's OWL twitch emote is that fucking "i need healing meme"
i miss old mercy ;_;
BUNNY?
JUMPED
5 man rez? gold
like ressurect ult mercy?
old mercy is fuckin GROSS
@red canyon you must be trolling
Heroes never die!
someone just called 5man rez good
nasty
i was so fuckin good on old mercy, now im trash
5 man res > first gen valk
i don't understand these people hatin mercy .. don't play overwatch .. rezzing heals have been there since decades
sounds like u need to get better at heroes that actually require skill
resurrection is just such a hard skill to balance in a fast paced fps like OW
@idle beacon ye
MIRO GOD PLAY
then dont play overwatch @red canyon
like resurrecting just slows down gameplay
same logic
the emp was wasted tho.. the fight was lost already
Ryu.
WHAT
you dont like current mercy then dont play
it's EMP
So I guess Lucio-zen dive is going back to being the requirement.. lol at all the people who thought the mercy nerf would somehow be the end of dive..
lol
they'll have it again by next fight
@strong iris nobody thought that
EMP charging on double health packs is so fast.
Fleta is playing really well
@woeful wolf why so mad? i still like ovw, i just prefer old mercy dats all
0 risk
almost 6 ults
mercy kinda stalls teamfights and the valkyrie rezzing rewarded dumb aggressive play
Or something dumb
@sinful fox I've seen more than enough very stupid people who thought that
@red canyon my brain has something against mercy its uncontrolable
@strong iris it just brings in more flexibility because mercy is no longer necessary, you can run heavier heal comps and play multi tanks rather than ONLY dive being viable, and ONLY mercy being viable
the game i've played for a decade .. had heals .. which threw healpacks .. (up to 5 .. then CD) .. and had a needle for INSTANT rezz .. so really .. dunno what these mercy haters are about
its stuck there
unkoe?
valiant look super uncoordinated right now
you good?
@idle beacon just because it exists doesnt mean its good
unkoe btw
@sinful fox it's part of the game
I think, like the announcers, that the Valiant don't understand this defense.
@idle beacon that doesnt mean its a good mechanic though
seoul is dominating
OH Seoul when you play well you seem invincible
mercy fixing dumb dps's mistakes is one annoying part of rez mechanics. idiot dps running into 6 enemies and screaming for rez ๐
Because its not a normal defense.
mercy's rezz in valkyr is still strong .. i just don't get the hate against mercy ๐ .. (hence, i don't play mercy at all)
There's SO much sustain for Seoul right now
@sinful fox What are you talking about, Dive wasn't nearly the only thing viable stage 1
@strong iris dive and orisa hog is pretty much it
lollll
i see the arc 6 strats, spawncamping
hating support is as old as video games
the backcap save poggers
nobody hates support people just hate rez
WP Seoul
Rekt
nvm
rightfully so
dynasty found demselves?
ez
TIME FOR YOUR TOKEN
Too early to say if Seoul found themselves.
omg pro meta without mercy! What a breath of fresh air
@slim summit what? ๐
smh I didn't get my token I'm sueing
rip
That attack was kind of shaky.
it didn't update instantly
so does the token just get added to your account?
@errant kayak are you hooked up properly
Mark my words: Stage two is going to see far less hero variety overall; we are back to Winston Dva Lucio Zen every map
yes
Yall motherfuckers doubted seoul?

that push was so uncoordinated for valiant
awkward zoom in on a random kid
i don't get this sombra crap all of a sudden
maybe you have to restart
no
lmao that face
But I am glad to see Bunny getting some play.
phew
I was joking
do they play with the buffed sombra ?
You get 1 token for every map win
I like Bunnys tracer, he's really aggressive.
@strong iris we literally JUST saw lucio sombra be run for a whole defense bruh what are u saying
