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[jovial jewel]

mfw the commentators are throwing shade at fuel for not running effect

[slim summit]

like dude just let your team speak for itself

[woeful wolf]

xqc banned effect tilted/banned

[rare sonnet]

Effect is preparing for gladiators game

[night copper]

id put effect in over taimou :S

[marsh trench]

fuel btfo

[rare sonnet]

pooling all that juice to blow them out of the water

[slim summit]

trash talking the best western team when your team is 1-7 is not a good look

[night copper]

best western team?

[woeful wolf]

overlay btw

[night copper]

dafuq

[woeful wolf]

hahAA

[slim summit]

houston

[sinful heron]

I have to admit, I'm no xQc fan but I feel like Cocco is playing really bad recently, so maybe when he comes back they will improve, I just hope Felix doesn't do anything stupid again

[jovial jewel]

NOT UN...DEAD

[night copper]

they have 1 american

[slim summit]

non-korean team

[polar pier]

Optimistic.

[jovial jewel]

god who makes these little stats?

[night copper]

outlaws?

[slim summit]

ya

[night copper]

lmao

[slim summit]

who else

[night copper]

fuel is all european

the fuck u on loll

[woeful wolf]

plz fix overlay

[slim summit]

so what

[jovial jewel]

sombra as dps 🤔

[woeful wolf]

wdym?

[jovial jewel]

*

[woeful wolf]

korea = asia

[sinful heron]

Yeah overlay is lower than usual

[slim summit]

?????

[woeful wolf]

thai land is asia

seagull na

[deft valley]

pretty sure the stats guy is captainplanet/falcon_kick

[woeful wolf]

custa ausi

[slim summit]

overlay so low its an underlay

[sinful heron]

That juke

[deft valley]

dunno if he does all of them or just as the coordinator though

[polar pier]

Harryhook trying to redeem himself.

[jovial jewel]

alright imma come back soon

gotta go do real world shit

[serene tendon]

harry what r u doing

[night copper]

lel

[serene tendon]

you got 2 picks dont get cocky

[night copper]

nice widow

taimou

[slim summit]

being so patient on that tire

too patient

lol

[deft valley]

so patient

[narrow dew]

dallas supports

[deft valley]

he'll need the tire to defend b

[night copper]

imagine not playing effect on widow

[woeful wolf]

can they not throw?\

[deft valley]

patience

[rare sonnet]

the swedes on Dallas both suck

[woeful wolf]

harry is in their spawn

[slim summit]

too patient on the trans 😦

[sinful heron]

Bad tire imo

[edgy swallow]

everyone on dallas except effect is trash

[final river]

freefeel needs to be subbed lmao

[rare sonnet]

AKM is good on Fuel

[slate wraith]

i want shanghai to win, i hate seeing winless teams 😦 lol

[polar pier]

But Taimou and Seagull. 😦

[forest wharf]

Lul 4v6'd

[rare sonnet]

xQc is good tank

[uncut moon]

freefeel always wastes his trans

every time

[deft valley]

sorry guys pressed q on accident – freefeel

[edgy swallow]

xqc is good

[rare sonnet]

he just never plays Omegalul

[edgy swallow]

but he's not in :(

[woeful wolf]

taimou and seagull are pretty good

but inconsistent

[edgy swallow]

effect is the only good dps

[uncut moon]

dallas getting all the bans

[night copper]

taimou should not be playing widow over effect

[uncut moon]

xqc and effecct

omegalul

[woeful wolf]

taimou bad btw

[night copper]

wait is effect banned/

[woeful wolf]

haHAA

jk

[uncut moon]

yeah effect was banned

[woeful wolf]

he aight

[scarlet spear]

harrys trance was so bad

[night copper]

wait really?

[uncut moon]

yes

[edgy swallow]

dallas is literally a 2v6 rn

[polar pier]

SEAGULL ON MEI

[final river]

mickie??

[edgy swallow]

for reporting a sym one trick

[polar pier]

WATCH OUT FOR THE FAIL ICE BLOCK

[uncut moon]

it wasnt just for reporting the sym it was what he said

and there was a massive thread on reddit about it

[woeful wolf]

mickie and taimou

vs the wrld

[final river]

mickie dove up towards the ulting dva

[night copper]

hes not banned from OWL tho?

[rare sonnet]

Mickie, Taimou, HarryHook all underperforming, Cocco and Chips both suck in this meta so Fuel only have like half a team left

[edgy swallow]

oh shit really

[night copper]

just ladder?

[serene tendon]

no one got altering are you fucking kidding me

[rare sonnet]

WUTFACE THEY LOSE?

[polar pier]

Shenanigans.

[edgy swallow]

Cocco is literally just xqc but worse on every hero

[uncut moon]

i dont think they let him play in OWL if he is banned in ladder

[night copper]

thats dumb

[narrow dew]

they did

he played

while he was banned

[night copper]

i think they're subbing him out

[slate wraith]

why is he banned?

[woeful wolf]

ITS LEGIT TAIMOU AND MICKIE VS THE WRLD

[sinful heron]

Ok, HAVE to give props to Seagull's Mei, that has an inspired swap for the hold

[woeful wolf]

^

[night copper]

seagull is carrying them lol i wouldnt sub him out and taimou wont sub himself out so no effect

[narrow dew]

why would casters wonder about him not playing

if he was banned

[rare sonnet]

dude is this ladder play?

[narrow dew]

he got unbanned

[night copper]

hes not banned blizz wouldnt fuck their darling team like that

[narrow dew]

from ladder too

it was until sunday

[onyx shore]

he wasnt banned from OWL

[rare sonnet]

bad overwatch is actually hilarious

[sinful heron]

Man, FUCK Mercy holy crap she's so not fun to play against on this patch

[woeful wolf]

taimou is legit getting 3 headshots every fight

[rare sonnet]

ikr

[woeful wolf]

poggers

plz

mercy 4.0

or 3.0

idk

[night copper]

its not even a player issue its coordination

[scarlet spear]

https://twitter.com/EFFECT/status/961197927786938368 sounds like effect benched himself

Hyeon Hwang (@EFFECT)

나는 사람을 잘 신뢰하지 않는다.
하지만 노력하는 사람은 좋아한다.

나 또한 찌질하고 생각없는 사람이였지만 여러 사건사고가 나를 반성하게하고 인정하고 수긍하면서 나를 고쳐갔다.

몰론 실수는 지워지지않지만..
고치려고 노력한다면 바뀐다고 나는 믿는다.

나도 그렇게 바뀌고있으니까..

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[night copper]

whats it say

[woeful wolf]

google trans

[scarlet spear]

theres a translation below

[sinful heron]

Taimou choking

[night copper]

Translated from Korean by Microsoft
I don't trust the person well.
But people like to try.

I was also a prick and an unthinking person, but several incident accidents have healed me, acknowledged, and cured me.

The mistake is not erased...
If you try to repair, I believe that is changed.

I'm changing that too...

[woeful wolf]

translation's here!

I don't rely on people that much.
But I like people who try hard.

I was greedy and dumb but lots of events made me regret and helped me change myself.

Though mistakes don't disappear, I believe it would change by doing my best.

Because I am changing.

[glacial sleet]

lol taimou not hitting shots

[polar pier]

RIP

[ancient wyvern]

rediculous

[rare sonnet]

Taimou missed it all 😦

[woeful wolf]

he was all round

he chocked

[rare sonnet]

SAD

[woeful wolf]

at the end

[slim summit]

rip

[sinful heron]

Great on second last push, bad on last

[polar pier]

it doesn't even matter

[sinful heron]

That's the problem with Junk and Widow

[slim summit]

i feel bad for effect

[polar pier]

gg no re

[night copper]

idk seagull is doing decent but yea effect is their hard carry so gg?

[rare sonnet]

Taimou pissed

[sinful heron]

If Junk doesn't land RNG mines Widow HAS to land shots

[slim summit]

he's an NYXL tier player on a shanghai tier team

[rare sonnet]

Seagull is gutted

[sinful heron]

If neither land they get in 6v6

[polar pier]

Hey hey hey hey hey

[rare sonnet]

Chips knows he is terrible

[night copper]

yea effect is probably the only reason they even have a win

[velvet scarab]

why would they not put effect in ahahah

[idle beacon]

i dont understand why taimou is playin widow .. he isn't doing well as widow

[polar pier]

Let's be honest here.

[sinful heron]

He's hot and cold

[woeful wolf]

/ EF3CT /

I don't rely on people that much.
But I like people who try hard.

I was greedy and dumb but lots of events made me regret and helped me change myself.

Though mistakes don't disappear, I believe it would change by doing my best.

Because I am changing.

[polar pier]

Shanghai is WAAAAY better than Dallas.

:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)

[sinful heron]

He can pop but he can make it 5v6

[final river]

Shanghai is improving, not sure if Dallas has

[rare sonnet]

3 heal?

[polar pier]

Dallas has improved.

[rare sonnet]

uh?

ok

[hidden vault]

But dallas won someone

[rare sonnet]

nvm

[polar pier]

in disappointing their fanbase

[woeful wolf]

@polar pier tbh i would say they are 50/50

[onyx shore]

ana?

wtf

[hidden vault]

Not shanghai

[true vigil]

shanghai is getting some top tier koreans too

[sinful heron]

Surely not, they're not relying on Junkrat for all the damage

[spark zealot]

i guess you could say Dallas has no effect!!!!!!!! hahaheah

huehuh

[slim summit]

dallas went 3-2 against Houston in the preseason

if anything they've gotten worse

[woeful wolf]

true

[spark zealot]

DAMN

[rare sonnet]

oh wow

[sinful heron]

WOW

POG

CHAMP

[polar pier]

They're called Fuel because they're a burning wreck.

[rare sonnet]

tracking a dash? wtf

[polar pier]

:^)

[woeful wolf]

VAC

jk

[sinful heron]

OH SNAP

Pog all over the place

[true vigil]

rez meta is so dumb

[onyx shore]

REKT

[rare sonnet]

cocoo again

[sinful heron]

Cocco please.

[rare sonnet]

feeeeed

[jovial jewel]

THROWCO

[woeful wolf]

cocoo is just xqc

[rare sonnet]

THROWCCO

[jovial jewel]

[woeful wolf]

but plays every hero

worse

[compact lily]

#freesqc

[rare sonnet]

Cocco far worse than xQc on dive/orisa

[compact lily]

#freexqc

[ancient wyvern]

dallas is playing a qp match

[night copper]

shanghais away jerseys are pretty sexy

[sinful heron]

Undead literally 1hp

[deft valley]

#freebsd

[woeful wolf]

xqc is better then cocoo on rein orisa and winston

[rare sonnet]

Fu3-1 PLEASE

[slim summit]

i wanted the double sleep so bad

[night copper]

lmao

hard hold A

[rare sonnet]

COCCO STOP DYING

[sinful heron]

Seagull is the only one who's doing anything

[polar pier]

Cocoo makes tanks look squishy.

[woeful wolf]

^

[jovial jewel]

4-0 INCOMING

[onyx shore]

cocco lul

[vale tartan]

DALLAS IS LOSING TO DRAGONS?

holy shit

[woeful wolf]

taimou

POGGERS

[polar pier]

HEY GUYS LET'S ALL RUSH INTO A SMALL CORRIDOR AGAINST A JUNKRAT

OH SHIT WE'RE ALL DEAD

[glacial sleet]

na ults all over lol

[slim summit]

sixty seconds boys

[woeful wolf]

taimou got 3

team plz

[rare sonnet]

Cocco and chips should never leave the bench Stage 2 unless Ana is meta, then chips maybe

[vale tartan]

ixty econds

[sinful heron]

IT'S LIKE QP

COME ON BOYS

TOGETHER

[night copper]

lol they're just sprad out

[rare sonnet]

bad overwatch is so funny to watch

[night copper]

this feels slow motion

[polar pier]

Trans why....?

o shit

[sinful heron]

Seagull is they're only hope at this point

[polar pier]

Dallas might take it.

[slim summit]

omg

the huge staggers

holy cow

[sinful heron]

LITERALLY CARRYING

[slim summit]

this is terrible

[woeful wolf]

seagull and taimou show

[vale tartan]

oh seagull is playing something beneficial to the team now lol

[night copper]

seagull show

[strange hare]

#freeeffect

[night copper]

seagull is making openings for tiamou

[slim summit]

damn it's so dumb that like

after several minutes of bad play

[jovial jewel]

[hidden vault]

If dallas loses

[slim summit]

they can get 3 kills on the way back

and take the point

[polar pier]

o shit

[ancient wyvern]

Hey we did it

[serene tendon]

AY

[scarlet spear]

[final river]

that was a sick second take

[hidden vault]

They should fuck themselves

[slim summit]

like honestly that's silly

[woeful wolf]

POGGERS

[sinful heron]

Seagull carry

[woeful wolf]

IN THE CHAT

[sinful heron]

SO HARD

[ancient wyvern]

Thanks to seagull

[jovial jewel]

inb4 2-0

[spark zealot]

seagull a madman

[idle beacon]

as i wrote earlier

[acoustic grail]

Seagull with the save

[idle beacon]

fuel has a strong attack

[vale tartan]

#freefelix

[little gale]

shanghai should have just killed themselves

[woeful wolf]

SEAGULL DECENT AT GENJI ON LAN

[ancient wyvern]

You could see he was waiting

[marsh trench]

absolutely CARRIED

[jovial jewel]

seagull once again carries the team on his broken ass spine

[idle beacon]

but a shitty defense

[woeful wolf]

tbh i never thought seagull could make it as a genji on lan

but the more he plays

he seems to be a decent mid tier

[idle beacon]

@woeful wolf lol dude

[woeful wolf]

genji

[night copper]

tbh play effect seagull at this point and rise

[idle beacon]

the only gengu being better is sdb

[woeful wolf]

?

[sinful heron]

That's like comparing Krillin and Goku.

[jovial jewel]

mfw this match up actually fits so well

red vs blue

2 teams who are considered to be trash

🤔

[night copper]

shanghai will rise

[jovial jewel]

its actually so perfect

[woeful wolf]

cocoo

not trash

?

poggers

[slim summit]

gg it's over

[night copper]

shanghai has good dps

justh ave to build around thme

[sinful heron]

Taimou should have ult

That's huge

[idle beacon]

shadowburn is a freakin cool gengu .. but and seagull is almost as good

[woeful wolf]

shanghai and trickling depression

[marsh trench]

is shanghai throwing

[sinful heron]

HOLD

[ancient wyvern]

we got a point

[night copper]

fuel fans eating anytihng they can

[acoustic grail]

wooooo

[ancient wyvern]

oh no wait...

[little gale]

inb4 draw

[sinful heron]

See Taimou can do so much when he pops

[acoustic grail]

this is the only time i have felt optimistic

[jovial jewel]

draw

[narrow dew]

seagull gotta show off his genji on somebody other than dragons

if he wants to compare

[jovial jewel]

WE NEED A 4-0 GOD DAMMIT NOT LIKE THIS

[narrow dew]

to other genjis

[woeful wolf]

tbh seagulls genji is underated not the best but definetly better than what most people expected from him

[acoustic grail]

nekminit draw

[marsh trench]

FIFTH MAP FIFTH MAP

[scarlet spear]

i doubt seaguls genji is up to par with the top

[onyx shore]

what was that round

[night copper]

seagull has the mechanics

hes just not a pro

[scarlet spear]

hes alright, but hes definitely not top tier

[idle beacon]

hasn't seagull played vs topnotch teams? .. yes he did.. @narrow dew

[sinful heron]

I mean Hanzo DOES kill Risa shield fast

[narrow dew]

and he didnt carry

any of the games

[woeful wolf]

profit? > fleta> sdb > someone else > seasgull?

@narrow dew except this one

[night copper]

seagull isnt even in the conversation lol

[narrow dew]

this isnt topnotch team

though

[sinful heron]

BIG DIVE

[narrow dew]

its a 0-8 team

[idle beacon]

not profit nor fleta have impressed me as genji

[woeful wolf]

gg\

[sinful heron]

Game

[idle beacon]

fleta is a sick pharah, tho

[scarlet spear]

[night copper]

harry cleaned this 2nd round up tho

[jovial jewel]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[acoustic grail]

fucking seagull!

[jovial jewel]

[final river]

Freefeel might actually be tanking the team

[ancient wyvern]

wow

[night copper]

healing is their issue man

[ancient wyvern]

we got a point

[slim summit]

what a joke

[woeful wolf]

^

[brisk roost]

Yo Fuel wins holy crap lmao

[acoustic grail]

just broke that defence

[jovial jewel]

seagull as usual

[slim summit]

dallas did not play well

[woeful wolf]

^

[slim summit]

but they got a huge advantage because seagull killed 2 people walking back

dumb

[onyx shore]

the support is just so shit on SHD side

[night copper]

harry just got every kill lol

[pearl cedar]

it only took Dallas Fuel management a whole month

[idle beacon]

haha that comms

[final river]

professional coms

[pearl cedar]

before putting seagull on genji

[onyx shore]

this makes harryhook looks like jjonak

[jovial jewel]

TOP 500 COMS

[night copper]

lol putting seagull in over effect is stupid

[brisk roost]

Those comms man I swear lmfao

[woeful wolf]

i think their star dive should be seagull effect xqc micke chips harry\

[glacial sleet]

lol

[acoustic grail]

Dallas communiication confirmed

[marsh trench]

"COME GAY COME GAY"

[onyx shore]

COME GAY

COME GAY

[woeful wolf]

and anti dive seagull taimou xqc micky custa harry

[forest wharf]

Sooo... 3 1

?

[slim summit]

do you guys hear that

[idle beacon]

there is no 3-1 anymore

[woeful wolf]

nah
3-1

[slim summit]

sounds like a VHS rewinding?

[glacial sleet]

yea

[woeful wolf]

yeah

[marsh trench]

what the fuck was that audio

[slim summit]

[marsh trench]

3-2

[idle beacon]

anyone else had this weird fuckup sounds?

[glacial sleet]

it was sombra

[brisk roost]

Yo the hell was that sound

Nah

[marsh trench]

probably twitch being a butt

[onyx shore]

even with asian tongue,it's hard to pronounce mickie's real name

[idle beacon]

lol twitch being a butt 😄

[onyx shore]

[woeful wolf]

anti dive seagull taimou xqc micky custa harry
dive seagull effect xqc micke chips harry imo

[pearl cedar]

i did too i thought it was intentional production

[river birch]

ironic that dallas fuel is trash

[jovial jewel]

ARG

[brisk roost]

I think that was Lynx 17 hinting his arrival

[jovial jewel]

[river birch]

it was so hyped up

[jovial jewel]

NEW HERO ARG FELLAS

[river birch]

?

[acoustic grail]

wow i do as much healing as Dallas's Mercy player

[pearl cedar]

Fuel shoulda been having seagull use genji all season instead of only relegating him to junkrat imo

[idle beacon]

new hero? when?

[jovial jewel]

nah the glitching stuff

[tall sentinel]

the audio was weird

[glacial sleet]

lynx 17 lol

[onyx shore]

put seagull and effect

[jovial jewel]

its was a maymay based on the sombra arg

[onyx shore]

bench taimou

[woeful wolf]

i think dallas jusst dont have a good mercy or winston rn

[pearl cedar]

a ton of situations where genji has been a needed pick for the season so far

[woeful wolf]

stage 2 will be better

[jovial jewel]

and the glitching of the stream

stage 2 will be better cuz NO MERCY META AYY

[idle beacon]

lynx17 ?

[woeful wolf]

^

anti dive seagull taimou xqc micky custa harry
dive seagull effect xqc micke chips harry imo

[onyx shore]

you dont need taimou

[idle beacon]

@woeful wolf r u havin fun repeating urself over and over again? 😃

[brisk roost]

@winston Read the Zarya's comic

[onyx shore]

effect can play mc cree

[woeful wolf]

@idle beacon toxic feelsbadman

[idle beacon]

there is a new zarya comic?

[brisk roost]

Hes that omnic that helped Zarya find Sombra

[woeful wolf]

@thick falconediaz#5606 yeah

[idle beacon]

oh yea

[woeful wolf]

winston no b o o l y

plz

[idle beacon]

zarya hatin him, but acceptin his help .. i remember

[brisk roost]

Yeah

Zarya tsundere to him

[onyx shore]

wow

the twitch viewership is 100k

[sullen berry]

I miss all those plays

[onyx shore]

not bad for this kind of match

[woeful wolf]

^

[balmy wolf]

it's been higher

[sullen berry]

from Seagull on eich

[idle beacon]

tsundere ?

[slim summit]

these are very close teams

[balmy wolf]

the first match made like 360k

[onyx shore]

that's opening day

[slim summit]

tsundere is weeb shit dw about it

[onyx shore]

doesnt really count

[sullen berry]

Fuel vs Dynasty was hype deserved then

[woeful wolf]

@balmy wolf tbh 480 games and 100k views a stream

[balmy wolf]

pretty good

[woeful wolf]

@balmy wolf you cant have finals type of views and a normal match

[marsh trench]

how many unique views though

[brisk roost]

Tsunsere means you like dislike or hate them but you still care for them

[idle beacon]

btw.. orisa's shield has 900hp, right?

[velvet scarab]

yes

[marsh trench]

ye

[woeful wolf]

consistent 100k for 480 games is really good

ye

[brisk roost]

Mhm

[idle beacon]

how come monkey's shield goes down faster than orisa's ?

[brisk roost]

How much health is monkey's bubble?

[woeful wolf]

because itsl ike 600hp

600hp*

[idle beacon]

600

[onyx shore]

orisa's shield is 900?

[woeful wolf]

i think

[idle beacon]

yea but it melts down so fast

[brisk roost]

Then there yiu go

[onyx shore]

if im not msitaken

[idle beacon]

ye 900

[brisk roost]

Less HP

[woeful wolf]

^

1 clip from tracer is 200 damage

and 1 right click is over half

[idle beacon]

that winston bubble is actually useless with these dive strats .. dunno ..

[pearl stratus]

Also Winstons shield has a larger surface area, it literally takes fire from EVERYWHERE.

[woeful wolf]

^

[pearl stratus]

Any incidental damage? Getting picked up by a monkey bubble.

[brisk roost]

True yo

[onyx shore]

winston bubble useless on dive
what are you talking about

[woeful wolf]

1 right click mcree and 1 one clip from tracer

and almost deleted

[pearl stratus]

Its useful for what its needed for.

[woeful wolf]

in 2 secs

[brisk roost]

Splash damage or anything affects it in the process

[pearl stratus]

It's not needed to hold for 10-15 seconds.

It's to stop incoming damage enough to secure a kill, hopefully.

[narrow dew]

tracer clip is more than 200hp no?

wiki says 6 per bullet

[woeful wolf]

probs more

[onyx shore]

many empty seats

lul

[idle beacon]

@junior anchorediaz#5606 this one dude just said that cocco made a mistake, not using his bubble when he dove onto the enemy .. that bubble would've been gone instantly, anyway ..
like .. the caster didn't make much sense ^^

[pearl stratus]

That's without any drop off.

[woeful wolf]

240 dmg

[forest wharf]

[pearl stratus]

So I mean if you're point blank firing into the shield yeah.

[woeful wolf]

i mean tracer will be right next to the bubble

anyways

[pearl stratus]

But if you're allowed to stand still pumping into the shield there's other issues.

[woeful wolf]

for the most part

[glacial sleet]

I think the winston was relying on mickie to have defencec matrix

[narrow dew]

she's got 11 meters

b4 falloff

[woeful wolf]

i think 10

[idle beacon]

how strong is hanzo's arrow again, when fully charged?

[woeful wolf]

120

[idle beacon]

u sure?

[narrow dew]

125

[woeful wolf]

oh

[idle beacon]

i got 1shot killed today, by a hanzo .. i was reaper, full health

[woeful wolf]

headshot

[idle beacon]

no scatter shot ..

[woeful wolf]

does like 300

[idle beacon]

ye but 250hp

[narrow dew]

headshots are 250

125x2

[tall sentinel]

It's 125 with a regular arrow

[woeful wolf]

true

[idle beacon]

that's just freakin trrash

fuckin broken hanzo hero

[woeful wolf]

not really

its a skill shot tbh

[tall sentinel]

sonic arrow i heard is 120

[woeful wolf]

not only he is a sniper he is a projectile sniper

[onyx shore]

hanzo headshot is 250

[woeful wolf]

yeah

[onyx shore]

yeah you ded

[pearl stratus]

Is it bullshit when Widow shoots you in the head and kills you? Because its literally the same thing.

[woeful wolf]

true

[pearl stratus]

Bad argument is bad.

[idle beacon]

but still .. why is his headshot dealin more than bodyshots .. whereas other heroes headshots aren't dealin extra dmg ?

[pearl stratus]

...

[woeful wolf]

what

[pearl stratus]

Everyones headshots do.

[onyx shore]

oh god this guy

[narrow dew]

almost every hero

[brisk roost]

You ded right away if its headshot tbh

[slim summit]

nobody expected it to be close

[pearl stratus]

Do you actually play overwatch?

[narrow dew]

does more damage with headshots

[tall sentinel]

what

[final river]

Has that guy been in owl all this time?

[woeful wolf]

nearly 100% of heroes does x2 headshot dmg more

[jovial jewel]

EVERYONE EXPECTED FUEL TO GET 4-0'd

[brisk roost]

No lmao

[jovial jewel]

lul i did

[glacial sleet]

MALIK?

[onyx shore]

if you hate hanzo now

[glacial sleet]

he was in the world cup but this is the first time I seen him in owl

[onyx shore]

you probably hate widowmaker back then

150 body shot

[jovial jewel]

my man

[scarlet spear]

they added some new talent to OWL

[jovial jewel]

:trihard:

[deft valley]

120

[onyx shore]

can quickscope

[woeful wolf]

true

[pearl stratus]

He's talking her original numbers, 16.

And way back in the day her body shots were 150.

[deft valley]

ah aight

[pearl stratus]

You actively didn't go for headshots.

Waste of a time.

Just double tap the body.

[slim summit]

that's my kind of sniper

i can't hit heads anyway

B)

[woeful wolf]

yeah

i hit like 50% body shot

[pearl stratus]

Undead McCree.

❤

[woeful wolf]

but 9% hs

[brisk roost]

Undead McCree is lit

[woeful wolf]

i dont play widow

but hitting body shots is ez

[deft valley]

heads are for coins and women offering me stuff in parking lots, i'm all about that body

[brisk roost]

Obv

Bodyshot are easy asf

[pearl stratus]

Searat now more one trick than Jakerat.

[final river]

where is Effect

[pearl stratus]

I think he's probably mentally not 100% right now.

And still pissed over his ban, tbh.

[woeful wolf]

^

tbh everyone is calling xqc mentally unstable

but its called entertainment

[acoustic grail]

Fuel is on it

[slim summit]

entertainment implies you do it on purpose

[woeful wolf]

if you see him in his vlogs or bts

[pearl stratus]

For different reasons - xQc is basically just downsy and ADHD.

[woeful wolf]

he is ok

[brisk roost]

xQc are just for the memes now tbu

Tbh*

[glacial sleet]

you should see a video of xqc doing a vod review before he became a twitch personality, completely different person

[woeful wolf]

true

[idle beacon]

so ye. widow's bullet is dealin 120, fully charged .. hanzo's arrow 125. .. this is odd

[woeful wolf]

because its harder to hit a arrow

[humble moth]

^

[pearl stratus]

Hitscan vs. Projectile.

[quasi stump]

different heroes do different damage, welcome to overwatch

[woeful wolf]

^

[balmy wolf]

^^^^

[woeful wolf]

^^

[deft valley]

being projectile is made up for with bigger projectile hitboxes

[balmy wolf]

/

[onyx shore]

here we go this spectating again

fire the spectating team pls

jeeez

[brisk roost]

Lmfao

[humble moth]

do they suck tonight?

[idle beacon]

no pharah from dalls

[humble moth]

they suck everynight, why am I asking

[brisk roost]

Welcome to OW my friend

[slim summit]

[woeful wolf]

ez clap

[brisk roost]

Xd

[jovial jewel]

🎶

oof

[onyx shore]

we didnt even see how dragons retake the point

[jovial jewel]

i meant

[onyx shore]

wtf

[jovial jewel]

[onyx shore]

this should be the top tier product

[humble moth]

:houstonoutlaws:

[onyx shore]

not for experimenting

[humble moth]

...

[pearl stratus]

God I can't wait for MG to get replaced.

[woeful wolf]

dallas fuel is marketable

[marsh trench]

thanks sombra\

[woeful wolf]

tbh dallas need to drop cocoo

there are better tanks out their

who can actually dive

[jovial jewel]

boomfist?

[glacial sleet]

nah they just need a good offtank

[final river]

report undead

[onyx shore]

what was that chant?

lets go dragon?

[woeful wolf]

xqc can main and off tank better then cocoo

they need another good off tank and main tank

[glacial sleet]

they need someone to compliment the main tank

mickie doesn't really cut it

[slim summit]

i hate this

[woeful wolf]

tbh

[slim summit]

LOL

[woeful wolf]

cocoo isnt even worthy

[slim summit]

zenyatta losing a duel to baby dva

[woeful wolf]

to be called a main tank

[narrow dew]

freefeel

garbage

[slim summit]

LOL

baby dva mvp

[onyx shore]

seagull got his mec back

[slim summit]

useless team

[onyx shore]

wtf doa

[final river]

only seagull could get a mech on soldier

[humble moth]

god damn mickie

[serene tendon]

mickie carry

[velvet scarab]

shanghai is throwing

[woeful wolf]

seagull got his back back

[jovial jewel]

[woeful wolf]

poggers

[jovial jewel]

RIP

[velvet scarab]

why would you try and stagger the dva when they still have the point lol

[woeful wolf]

tbh they need a another main tank

cocoo isnt cutting it

[humble moth]

I missed the first game, did Dallas throw?

[velvet scarab]

actually throwing so hard

[final river]

rip

[glacial sleet]

damn

[marsh trench]

rrrrrrrip

[brisk roost]

WOW

[glacial sleet]

well rip shangai

[jovial jewel]

MFW

[idle beacon]

cocco is actually an off tank

[hidden vault]

Shanghai pls die

[marsh trench]

im almost convinced that shanghai is throwing

[brisk roost]

FUEL IS GONNA WIN NOW

[humble moth]

they can win the next one right?

[slim summit]

🙏 🙏

[pearl stratus]

No one expects a ton from Shanghai, but their Season 2 line up is starting to look really good with the three korean pick ups.

[woeful wolf]

@idle beacon his best hero is rein though

[jovial jewel]

shouldve just listened to my 900 iq brain and realized that shanghai couldn't do this

[acoustic grail]

i miss that Rez

[jovial jewel]

:feelslifeman:

[acoustic grail]

bring back insta rez!!!

[polar pier]

RIP Shanghai.

[onyx shore]

nah

just revert the rework

the rework is useless

[woeful wolf]

how about

[onyx shore]

bring back 5 man rez mercy

[pearl stratus]

On E.

[woeful wolf]

we dont listen to salty mercy mains

and plats

[pearl stratus]

Leave Valk as ult.

[woeful wolf]

to balance the game

[onyx shore]

and she will only be on pharah duty

not gonna dominate the meta like valk mercy

[acoustic grail]

nah

not 5 man rez

[woeful wolf]

the day they listen to people who know how to play the game and pros

is the day ow is great again

[pearl stratus]

Only thing I'd do to Mercy right now is give her a slightly faster casting rez (only one) during valk, that's not instant.

But like half cast or so.

[woeful wolf]

^

thats the most

[idle beacon]

Arkediaz: oh god this guy .. what?

[onyx shore]

do you think old mercy will be as strong as valk mercy during this meta

[woeful wolf]

NO

MERCY IS DED AF

[onyx shore]

@idle beacon nah,i was talking about that guy on intermission

[pearl stratus]

I'd almost say Valk could be higher HPS, but Valk is still really good so it'd be too much.

[idle beacon]

oh lol

[onyx shore]

saying that superbowl bla3

[jovial jewel]

lul mercy is still an alright pick

[woeful wolf]

i was watching tournys

without mercy

[jovial jewel]

just not a always must pick god

[pearl stratus]

I'd rather see them tone down Moira hps than increase Valk hps.

[woeful wolf]

it was a feelsgoodman

[jovial jewel]

right now mercy is pretty much just healbot tbh

[slim summit]

moira hps is way too high

next meta will be quad tank meta

you heard it here first folks

[woeful wolf]

thats what healers are

[sullen berry]

dive support

[glacial sleet]

but

[jovial jewel]

people in diamond below prolly won't pick it up tbh

[pearl stratus]

Nah the reason why four tanks work with Moira is because Moira heals so much Lucio basically never needs to run anything but speed boost.

[woeful wolf]

they dont need to

[glacial sleet]

what is the meta currently?

in ladder

[jovial jewel]

in higher ranks ye quad tank will prolly be a thing

[woeful wolf]

lucio zen

lucio ana

[idle beacon]

they only change mercy's rezzing stuff.. mercy is still healin the same amount .. why would you dumb mercy just because of the rezz?

[woeful wolf]

with tripple and dquad tank comming back

@glacial sleet ^

[onyx shore]

personal reason

[pearl stratus]

I would never run a Quad tank without Moira.

[glacial sleet]

ugh

[narrow dew]

no1 runs quad tank

[glacial sleet]

triple tank

[narrow dew]

with no moira

[onyx shore]

i think jeff kaplan sent his black ops

[pearl stratus]

She charges her ult too fast off four beefy targets.

[slim summit]

can't carry his deadweight team for 1 more match

[idle beacon]

moira only works like that on tight maps, @pearl stratus

[onyx shore]

to kidnap effect

[pearl stratus]

Every map is a tight map with four tanks.

Realistically.

[onyx shore]

ah

[woeful wolf]

@glacial sleet the lucios are comming back and moira is being played much more

so quad and tripple tank

[pearl stratus]

You're always going to be within Lucio's range.

[idle beacon]

a bit tricky on escort maps

[woeful wolf]

and comming

[onyx shore]

i'm waiting for r/cow to complain about triple/quad tanks

[acoustic grail]

no Effectr

[onyx shore]

and say "it's boring"

[idle beacon]

spittin out that much healin as moira

[slim summit]

why wouldn't they

[onyx shore]

"it's no skill"

[glacial sleet]

I havn't played lucio in so long, how do you charge his ult quickly?

[pearl stratus]

You don't.

[onyx shore]

"nerf moiruzzzz hurr durrr"

[slim summit]

more tanks = slower less skilled maps

[woeful wolf]

speed in

[slim summit]

what part of that do you disagree with

[acoustic grail]

man Zoe makes me moist

[woeful wolf]

and make your tem take dmg

[slim summit]

do you not remember season 3 lul

[woeful wolf]

then amp heals

[onyx shore]

yeah triple tank

[slim summit]

it's just poke poke poke poke poke ult

[idle beacon]

@acoustic grail wha?

[deft valley]

the solution to tank problem isn't nerfing moira though

[slim summit]

nothing impressive happens

yes it is

[woeful wolf]

tripple tank was ok

[glacial sleet]

for example

[slim summit]

ana has huge heals = triple tank

[deft valley]

tanks still deal way too much damage

[slim summit]

ana has heal nerf = no more triple tank

moira has huge heals = quad tank

HMMMM

[woeful wolf]

^

[idle beacon]

@deft valley haha

[balmy wolf]

but moira's pretty volatile

[woeful wolf]

speed tbh insta of hog

[idle beacon]

monkey ain't dealin much dmg

[woeful wolf]

they need to speedbost reaper

[balmy wolf]

nerf her and you run the risk of messing her up

[woeful wolf]

with tripple tank

[glacial sleet]

I can barely get lucio ult before the enemy genji or soldier has their ult. is that normal?

[pearl stratus]

Depends, if you run a good shield tank and D'va that grenade is still 50-50.

[slim summit]

she's messed up currently

[balmy wolf]

like they did with mercy

[woeful wolf]

moira health steal is annoying

[balmy wolf]

she's fine to play against

[narrow dew]

lucio ult is slowest

charging

in the game

[deft valley]

mercy had huge heals, somehow not tank meta

hmmmmm

[woeful wolf]

and the fact she has a really good aim assist

[slim summit]

heroes that are fine to play against don't cause a quad tank meta

[idle beacon]

i think you charge ur lucio ult faster, the more aoe healin you're spittin out

[narrow dew]

only way to get it quick

is to boop

people off

[deft valley]

yeah the tanks cause a fucking quad tank meta
and most of them aren't fine to play against rn

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, his healing is so mediocre.

And so tight range.

[idle beacon]

SLOPPY

[woeful wolf]

moira needs a nerf on the health steal

[slim summit]

when was the last time a tank got buffed

[idle beacon]

lol

[woeful wolf]

and thats it

[slim summit]

dva rework?

[pearl stratus]

It's hard to charge his ult.

[slim summit]

6 months ago?

[deft valley]

the problem is the best way to kill a tank is a tank right now

[woeful wolf]

orisa shield

[idle beacon]

@woeful wolf why is that?

[deft valley]

that shouldn't be the case

[slim summit]

if tanks were the problem ... why is it taking until moira

[pearl stratus]

Honestly what I'd do with Moira is give her damage fall off, and reduce the duration of her orbs a little.

[deft valley]

make the tankbuster dps actually work

[pearl stratus]

That's it.

[idle beacon]

lol people whinign about moira now

[pearl stratus]

Make it 50hps at like 5yd, then drop it down to 20dps at 20y.

[onyx shore]

THIS SPECTATING AGAIN

JEEZUS

[deft valley]

of course they are

[jovial jewel]

moyra is 2 broken amirite

[slim summit]

lol

[deft valley]

mercy's gotten nerfed so something needs bitching about

[pearl stratus]

No one cared about Moira before.

Too.

[gilded orbit]

Lands clean hook

[slim summit]

nah you're right

[gilded orbit]

disconnects

[idle beacon]

yea

[slim summit]

quad tank is good

let's just nerf all tanks

[deft valley]

and of course it's the healers fault

[gilded orbit]

Roadhog working as intended.

[slim summit]

because that will make a difference

[woeful wolf]

@idle beacon i mean she needs it or she cant heal her self as effectively

[idle beacon]

bitch about this broken trash hero named hanzo

[deft valley]

yea it will lmao

[pearl stratus]

Why whine about something that's not really played.

[jovial jewel]

like moira isn't broken she just has the tools to enable the comp

[slim summit]

when hanzo causes a boring quad tank meta

maybe i'll care

[woeful wolf]

but its does too mutch

[slim summit]

but i don't so

[deft valley]

if you actually make dps a better way to kill a tank than another tank

[glacial sleet]

I'd rather have mercy meta than quad tank

[onyx shore]

i just hope that blizz wont remove moira jump

[pearl stratus]

Moira's not broken, but it'll end up like another mercy situation

[brisk roost]

Indeed

[slim summit]

dps would be better for killing tanks if tanks didn't have infinity heals

[onyx shore]

you know

that jump

[deft valley]

then we won't see fucking quadtank no matter how good the healers are

[brisk roost]

Moira will get the Mercy treatment? RIP

[onyx shore]

that actually requires skill

[jovial jewel]

if blizzard wanted to remove moira jump they would've done it a long time ago

[deft valley]

but you keep bitching about moira

[idle beacon]

@woeful wolf she also needs the lifeleech to refill her heal juice .. reduce the dmg, increase the selfheal .. cool deal 😄

[woeful wolf]

COCOO

[slim summit]

lol

[onyx shore]

well,how long do they need to remove genji jump?

[slim summit]

moira is the problem

[woeful wolf]

STOP

FEEDING

[slim summit]

your misdiagnoses won't change that

[woeful wolf]

LOL

genji nerf

[deft valley]

whereas your misdiagnoses obviously will

[woeful wolf]

wadada hoke

[slim summit]

yes

[brisk roost]

Cocco went full LoL mode

[idle beacon]

why remov genji's double jump?

[rare sonnet]

why does Cocco actually suck? xQc can't teach him?

[slim summit]

and they're not misdiagnoses

[woeful wolf]

the whole meta is a counter to genji

[humble moth]

what a wasted dragonblade

[slim summit]

you'll see :]

[woeful wolf]

moira junk

so many tanks

[deft valley]

see what? your bitching getting to blizzard and them nerfing moira? I'm sure I will

[quasi stump]

wtf is cocco doing

[deft valley]

can't wait

[glacial sleet]

who is better against quad tank junkrat or reaper?

[humble moth]

junk

[idle beacon]

what was the 2nd map again?

[onyx shore]

junk

[woeful wolf]

@idle beacon yeah just the dmg or lifesteal

[jaunty tendon]

junk has aoe

[edgy swallow]

lmao what is cocco doing

[woeful wolf]

not the refill

[glacial sleet]

I can see hanzo working against quad tank though

[edgy swallow]

cocco is feeding so hard rn

[slim summit]

eichenwalde > moon base alpha > oasis > dorado

[glacial sleet]

that scatter is to stong

[pearl stratus]

There's nothing to Dragonblade.

[idle beacon]

ah yea HLC

[onyx shore]

the only way to make reaper viable again is to give nanoboost its speedboost back

[idle beacon]

SHD seem to be good on escort maps

OR

[narrow dew]

guys

headshot

[idle beacon]

fuel sucking on escort defense 😄

[narrow dew]

that mercy

easy counter

[night copper]

taimou poverty effect pharah

[woeful wolf]

JUST CLICK HER HEAD

LOL

4head

[forest wharf]

Lul

[edgy swallow]

taimou on pharah lMAO

[woeful wolf]

STOP CRYING DPS

[slim summit]

🙏

[woeful wolf]

JUST CLICK HER HEAD

4HEAD

[jaunty tendon]

China is 0-8 right

[woeful wolf]

^

yes

[rare sonnet]

Dallas are playing on the ladder lmao

[jaunty tendon]

I hope they win so hard

[forest wharf]

3 2

[edgy swallow]

JUST CLICK HER HEAD 4HEAD

[onyx shore]

guys

[humble moth]

1-8 after tonight

[jaunty tendon]

lmao

[rare sonnet]

they got a thrower in cocco

[jaunty tendon]

Bless

[onyx shore]

how hard do you think being the ref

[pearl stratus]

I'm super excited about Season 2 Shanghai if they get the four players they mentioned.

[brisk roost]

0-9

[idle beacon]

@woeful wolf but as moira you can counter gengus and pharas so well .. and well, if you wanna reduce that dmg .. what about symmetra's autoaim crap, which gets stronger the more you dmg ur enemy?

[woeful wolf]

mercy isnt broken JUST CLICK HER HEAD LOL 4HEAD

[onyx shore]

the one that standing behind them

lul

[hidden osprey]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ModernChillyChickenDancingBanana

JUST CLICK HER HEAD

[edgy swallow]

report Cocco for throwing

[idle beacon]

@pearl stratus 4 ?

[woeful wolf]

@idle beacon sym doesnt have movement though

[pearl stratus]

3 Koreans and 1 Chinese player.

[rare sonnet]

Harry is typing a report for cocco

[pearl stratus]

2 Tanks, 1 Support, 1 Genji apparently.

[rare sonnet]

jeff pls ban stage 2

[woeful wolf]

and can be counterd by hanzo tracer winston widow

[jaunty tendon]

I hate Taimou but have no idea why

[woeful wolf]

and tank

[idle beacon]

@pearl stratus when did that news pop up? 😮

[jaunty tendon]

I just want to smack the shit out of him

[pearl stratus]

Yesterday I think.,

[woeful wolf]

@idle beacon most dps and all tanks counter sym

[pearl stratus]

Nothing fully confirmed, but its Geguri, etc.

[idle beacon]

i read about geguri and 2 more koreanders. but 4?

[pearl stratus]

The last one is a Chinese projectile player.

Which they desperately need.

[rare sonnet]

do you guys thing Effect is getting sold to Seoul

[woeful wolf]

most dps have a free kill ability

[edgy swallow]

nah

[woeful wolf]

that counters sym

[pearl stratus]

No, Effect is stuck on Dallas.

[edgy swallow]

seoul don't need him

[idle beacon]

@rare sonnet haha