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dense jasper
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perfect game?

humble moth
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morale is gone with seoul look at them

orchid herald
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Not 0-4verwatch

humble moth
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the look on their faces lolol

muted fox
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Oh-Fourverwatch

dense jasper
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Read that as OH FOREVERWATCH ^

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lol

orchid herald
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ITS

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OH

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FOUR

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WATCH

brisk roost
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Four watch I swear

dense jasper
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four watch?

zinc schooner
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profit so damn boney

orchid herald
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IT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE

glacial sleet
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ok

dense jasper
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wat

deft valley
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four the watch!

orchid herald
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it sounds like overwatch

surreal prism
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four overwatch makes way more sense

dense jasper
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BRING ME ANOTHER CATCH PHRASE

glacial sleet
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thought this would be a good match

orchid herald
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But 0-4watch

wide basin
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Ohfourwatch. Rolls off the toungue easier

paper forum
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bring me the catch phrase stretche

dense jasper
slim summit
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LondonSpitfire full LondonSpitfire hold LondonSpitfire

humble moth
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its already pronounced that down here in the south

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pronounced like that

dense jasper
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Seoul will get their ults first.

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no, spitfire now.

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lol

idle beacon
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@night copper it'll still be tough for seoul to be on spot 1 in pac division after this loss .. they'll have the same stats like valiant

night copper
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no

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they have the tie breaker

orchid herald
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but Seoul has gone mainly 4-0

slim summit
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lol

night copper
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and play valiant

slim summit
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the huge overextend

orchid herald
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Valiant goes like 3-2 and 3-1 every time

night copper
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Yea

glacial sleet
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so after this

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valiant, outlaws and dynasty will be tied

tawny sigil
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as a perfect 4-0 happened yet?

slim summit
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gobble gobble

orchid herald
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NY woulda 4-0d Seoul if they didnโ€™t C9 like three times

night copper
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no

idle beacon
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valiant has easy teams the next 2 weeks, except for one which is vs seoul

night copper
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theres tie breakers

dense jasper
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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

night copper
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seoul is still above both

glacial sleet
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yeah but the 3 teams are 5-

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5-2

night copper
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but theres tiebreakers...

idle beacon
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and i dont know if seoul will win 4-0 vs houston

tawny sigil
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damn no perfect 4-0

slim summit
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damn

glacial sleet
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no shit

slim summit
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

orchid herald
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I think itโ€™ll go 3-1 or 3-2 seoul

night copper
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not yet

dense jasper
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That's finally

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they needed it

brisk roost
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Lmao they finally got a point

zinc schooner
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Hex so BM

humble moth
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was hoping for 4-0

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bring the giants down

orchid herald
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Gladiators is the team of upsets

glacial sleet
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I dont think dynasty will take htis map tbh

balmy wolf
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A point

paper forum
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Valiant doesnโ€™t really have a chance against Seoul unless Unkoe has been secretly throwing with his mercy on purpose

orchid herald
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First reverse sweep

dense jasper
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It's still a 4 - 0 if they keep them from finishing.

night copper
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houston and seoul play tm. maybe seoul hiding strats.

dense jasper
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just not a shutout

orchid herald
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And they 3-2 spitifire somehow

idle beacon
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srsly .. division based .. valiant is close up with seoul

orchid herald
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Yeah maybe like what NY did with philly

humble moth
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yup

night copper
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valiant and seoul play next week

forest wharf
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If seoul doesnt bring ryu back tomorrow i quit owl

humble moth
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i hope they dont, will make it easier for outlaws

night copper
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outlaws havent played houston

orchid herald
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They had to roast Shanghai, Dallas and Florida on the OWL news thing

night copper
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err

dense jasper
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This is like dessert for Spitfire.

night copper
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sorry

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outlaws havent played spitflire

paper forum
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Seoul will do what they need to do to keep Pacific on lock but I donโ€™t think they care about title wins

orchid herald
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They pointed out that Shanghai literally canโ€™t make it to title matches

night copper
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or seoul

humble moth
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they play them saturday i think right?

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outlaws vs spitfire

night copper
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outlaws havent played seoul or spitfire

idle beacon
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who is bunny playing for?

orchid herald
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And that dallas and Florida have a 0.001% chance of making it

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Seoul

dense jasper
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time to switch to a game.

glacial sleet
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lowkey I hope outlaw wins tomorrow

orchid herald
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^

paper forum
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Why

idle beacon
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i mean

glacial sleet
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to dethrone dynasty

orchid herald
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Seoul would have 3 losses though and all the bandwagons would be mad

paper forum
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Jake is enough of a deterrent for me to ever vote outlaws

night copper
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i highkey think seoul hiding strats for outlaws beacuse trhe map pool is so small u have to man

idle beacon
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who is benching for bunny

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not what team bunny is playin for ๐Ÿ˜„

orchid herald
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Oh

paper forum
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Munchkin

brisk roost
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I hope Outlaws win too

orchid herald
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Lmao

idle beacon
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ah

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why is munchkin benchin, eh

glacial sleet
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linkzr is so good

tawny sigil
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bunny is MED

paper forum
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Hiding strats

night copper
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Yes it does

orchid herald
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Seoul went from kings to peasants in a week lmao

night copper
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they arent in the same division

slim summit
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๐Ÿ™ 4-0 ๐Ÿ™ 4-0 ๐Ÿ™

night copper
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Seoul has pacific on lock if they beat outlaws OR valiant, so they dontr need to show strats

paper forum
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Spitfire lost to shock right?

orchid herald
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no...

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spitfire 3-0d Shock I believe

night copper
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No it doesnt

idle beacon
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@night copper i really don't get what you are on about with your 'show strats' stuff

night copper
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Im talking to 13 year olds

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bye

glacial sleet
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@idle beacon because

humble moth
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bb babe

glacial sleet
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when the final playoffs come

brisk roost
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@paper forum Spitfire lost to Uprising

paper forum
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Ah uprising not shock

orchid herald
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Show strats as in not show the enemy teams what you plan to do

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When they watch your game

night copper
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The map pool is TINY

slim summit
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@night copper bye

night copper
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bye

idle beacon
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yuea

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like if there's so much different strats

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like

orchid herald
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Thatโ€™s because itโ€™s a set pool for each stage

idle beacon
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r u fuckin serious?

brisk roost
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GG

slim summit
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GOTEM

orchid herald
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Next stage we probably wonโ€™t see these maps anymore

hybrid tundra
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4-0

muted fox
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wow

slim summit
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4-0'd

humble moth
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4-0 rekt

glacial sleet
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GG

hybrid tundra
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4-0

zinc schooner
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woot

hybrid tundra
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4-0

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4-0

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4-0

slim summit
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LONDON HWAITING

orchid herald
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pfffffffffff 0-4watch

paper forum
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Gg I kinda feel bad for Seoul... what a rough week

thorn forum
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Lol

idle beacon
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they all have been playin the same boring meta over and over again .. the only team being unusual is fuel

muted fox
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most onesided game of the night and dragons played tonight

whole mulch
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3 4-0's in a row

night thunder
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bruh

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thts

forest wharf
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So how'd that gido strat work out?kaplanwhat kaplanwhat

whole mulch
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today was 4-0verwatch

night thunder
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thats a lot

paper forum
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At least the dragon 4-0 was entertaining

night thunder
muted fox
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my city is on fire

full lion
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does my heart good to see seoul get 4-0'

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d

idle beacon
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that was a very decent ass whoopin for seoul ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

glacial sleet
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no longer top korean team I'm happy about that

tawny sigil
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consecutive asian bowing look so awkward

night copper
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@upper patrol "doesn't matter. division doesn't matter for stage 1 finals, and if the concern is playoffs, getting 4-0'd fuks you more than losing a mercy meta strat"
The next stage is an entire new map pool. the map pool is small. Seoul still has to play the top two contenders in their division

humble moth
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@tawny sigil lol yeah it does

night thunder
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so NYXL

brisk roost
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LMAO OUTLAWS IS NOW IN TOP 3

night thunder
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then NYXL again

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then maybe NYXL.?

idle beacon
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profit .. sweet lil princess

night copper
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@upper patrol also mercy patch is in next stage

humble moth
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@brisk roost gonna be top 2 tomorrow

night copper
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PIPE DREAM

forest wharf
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I just cant even understand the ryu swap strat

night copper
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hiding strats

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from outlaws tm

brisk roost
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Heck yeah

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Top 2 Outlaws ftw

humble moth
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stfu with your hiding strats

night copper
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@brisk roost outlaws havent played spitfire or dynasty lol

glacial sleet
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dynasty with the 4d chess

paper forum
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Whatโ€™s even more funny is with Ryi out they lost their main shot caller too

idle beacon
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@night copper yea .. what strats, pls .. what else than the usual stuff could seoul come up with?

paper forum
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Ryu*

brisk roost
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Outlaws are playing Dynasty tomorrow though

night copper
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@idle beacon that doesnt even deserve a response

brisk roost
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Rooting for Outlaws

humble moth
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why would you hide your strats when it causes you to lose 0-4

night copper
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this channels IQ is so low prob silver avg sr bye

full lion
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so this is the second time seoul lost right

glacial sleet
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hell yea if outlaws wins

night copper
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because DIVISIONS

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i give up

glacial sleet
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that'd be dope

slim summit
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@night copper bye

idle beacon
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@night copper you ain't makin sense .. seoul is stickin to the meta like every other team

forest wharf
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Seoul playing the super long con?

night copper
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yes

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they are

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they are playing for their division

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No they didnt they still play valiant and outlaws...........

paper forum
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Phaint just wait till the finale with Seoul against spitfire or xl

humble moth
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they just became tied for 3rd instead of second place

slim summit
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losing against london has nothing to do with playing for your division x d

night copper
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@paper forum yes i hope so because we can see the real line up

paper forum
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And people wonโ€™t even bother to care about this anymore, they obviously donโ€™t understand lol

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Yeah exactly

forest wharf
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Im tilted tbh. Can't even play comp right now

night copper
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Yea i think im talking to little kids

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waste of my time

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out

slim summit
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please just leave

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you keep saying bye

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goodbye

night copper
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i kepe gettiing mentioned

brisk roost
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Just say bye to them then lol

idle beacon
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@night copper explain how seoul is hiding their strats in scrimms ๐Ÿ˜‰

forest wharf
idle beacon
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oh wait, they aren't scrimmin their secret strats

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dayum

humble moth
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@idle beacon @night copper he doesn't know wtf hes talking about

idle beacon
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@humble moth is he even an OW player? ๐Ÿ˜„

night copper
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yea

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want to play?

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is your SR within 500 of 3700?

humble moth
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lol

balmy wolf
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Not low enough

forest wharf
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Im in denial about that game. Its fake news

idle beacon
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within 500 of 3700

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what?????

balmy wolf
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It's 500 sr for masters

night copper
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@forest wharf they are hiding strats, map pool is very small, hteir next two games are valiant and outlaws the PAcific frontrunners.

balmy wolf
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500 difference to group

night copper
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@idle beacon exposing himself

humble moth
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there is no strat hiding jesus christ

night copper
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yes htere is

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new to sports?

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lmao

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bye

idle beacon
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oh if i wanna play and if i can grp up with u?

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sure can

glacial sleet
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although spitfire is the better team, I think dynasty subbed ryu out to hide weakness because they play outlaws tomorrow and that's the match that matters @idle beacon

idle beacon
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but nah .. not interested in 1tricks

humble moth
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no im not new to sports but you dont hide strats when it causes you to lose rankings

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thats called throwing

night copper
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lmao

balmy wolf
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Why does the outlaws match matter more

night copper
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i give up

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Division

forest wharf
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Doesnt matter. Still didnt happen

night copper
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Pacific division

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salt its a lost cause

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probably tweens

full lion
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who else is in the pacific division

glacial sleet
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there are two divisions, pacific and atlantic

night copper
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valiant and outlaws, seouls next two games.

glacial sleet
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6 teams on each division

idle beacon
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@glacial sleet seoul will win against houston .. if not, then they're as a big laugh as fuel ar

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e\

brisk roost
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Lol

copper latch
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Houston will win!

brisk roost
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Outlaws is gonna win

glacial sleet
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I hope not outlaws can learn alot from this L

night copper
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i doubt it but i hope its a good match and nto a stomp

copper latch
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4-0 outlaws!

vapid dragon
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Im rooting for Houston

full lion
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goddamn i hope houston wins

idle beacon
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i hope houston gets a serious ass whoopin

brisk roost
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Same yo

night copper
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Valiant will be a better game

brisk roost
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I hope Dynasty will get their asses kicked again

night copper
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lel

idle beacon
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jake the 1trick and his wannabe mates

humble moth
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seoul will lose to outlaws cause they're hiding strats

glacial sleet
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dont sleep on linkzr

night copper
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dynasty going nowhere. celebrate ur one victory while you can fuel fans

glacial sleet
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he is a carry 4sure

vapid dragon
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I just like Houston a lot

full lion
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i jsut want seoul to lose more

idle beacon
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@brisk roost last 2 matchs for seoul are vs outlaws and valiant. i doubt they'll lose both

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or

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oh

glacial sleet
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outlaws is strong

idle beacon
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and against SF Shock

night copper
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They only need to win 1 to advance

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as the leader

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Outlaws plays seoul and london

brisk roost
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Well one of them might lose to the other team

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They could lose to Valiant

night copper
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doesnt matter

idle beacon
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outlaws will even lose against boston uprising ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

night copper
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seoul is still first

forest wharf
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They go against shock next week also

brisk roost
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Nah lol

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Uprising is on 50/50 right now

glacial sleet
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have outlaws played valiant?

idle beacon
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uprising gettin better and better

night copper
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if Seoul > outlaws and Valiant > seoul, seoul still first. and thisis assuming valiant win all their other games 3-0

brisk roost
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Meanwhile the Excelsior are just chilling

true vigil
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You: Seoul is amazing

night copper
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nope

true vigil
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Me, an intellectual: Shanghai #1

night copper
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NYE isnt chilling lol

idle beacon
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@night copper damn you're a huge seoul asscrawler

night copper
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their division is the hardest

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@idle beacon no your IQ is just lkow

brisk roost
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Who was the one that defeated Excelsior?

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Like which team

full lion
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fusion

idle beacon
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@night copper as long as it isn't as low as yours is .. ๐Ÿ˜‰

night copper
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Right

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You just discovered divisions and SR

brisk roost
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Yeah Fusion can also make a comeback

night copper
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Anyways im outtie highschoolers

upper tundra
vapid dragon
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Lmao

idle beacon
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@night copper divisions don't really matter in OWL

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ffs

night copper
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yes they do

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your IQ is low

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bye

idle beacon
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ye piss off

brisk roost
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@idle beacon You watchin' the Superbowl?

true vigil
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@night copper

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Keep talking i like it

idle beacon
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@brisk roost nah .. i hope eagles will take it, tho

brisk roost
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Lol

fresh arrow
brisk roost
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I want Patriots to win again

humble moth
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wut

idle beacon
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@brisk roost and yes .. division stuff makes sense in the nfl

true vigil
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@night copper: if i could suck off Seoul i would. Me, an intellectual: mmmm Mayhem

humble moth
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eagles stand no chance

idle beacon
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but not in owl

brisk roost
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Nah I wasn't gonna ask about the NFL divisions

slim summit
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um

idle beacon
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@brisk roost tom brady won last year already .. come on, eh .. he is already THE qb .. (for others not for me ๐Ÿ˜„ )

slim summit
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are spitfire and nyxl tied in map wins

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i don't think they are?

brisk roost
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I know

true vigil
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NYXL is 1

brisk roost
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I just want the Patriots have another W

humble moth
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Seoul finally faced real compeition and got rekt 0-4 but @night copper is still thinks theyre the best

idle beacon
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@brisk roost how often did patrions win the bowl?

brisk roost
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5

humble moth
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@idle beacon this will be the 6th in a row

idle beacon
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@humble moth ye dunno what @night copper is on about .. :/

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6th in a fuckin row?

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what?????

deft valley
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it's not in a row

brisk roost
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it's not in a row though lol

idle beacon
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patriots won the bowl since 2012 ??

brisk roost
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No

deft valley
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it will be their 6th and second back-to-back if they win

brisk roost
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They won in 2002

idle beacon
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would've been freakin uber

brisk roost
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First super bowl that they won

humble moth
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i know, I made that up

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just like @night copper

idle beacon
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๐Ÿ˜„

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phaint being a meme soon

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heh lel

brisk roost
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Lmao

humble moth
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Seoul plays dive, how is that hiding strats

deft valley
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you've been a meme since week two and here we are still

idle beacon
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@deft valley who're you talkin about?

deft valley
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#fagastyneverforget

idle beacon
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hehe

glacial sleet
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well

deft valley
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how could i it's comedy gold

glacial sleet
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llunatic hai has lost to gcbusan b4

brisk roost
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๐Ÿ˜‚

deft valley
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sorry that was supposed to be
gold-tier comedy

glacial sleet
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I think they just accepted their L tbh

balmy wolf
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Lunatic hai lost to gc busan in the past

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several times

idle beacon
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i knew since week one that blanasty is overrated af

muted fox
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wasn't LH kind of one the way down

balmy wolf
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I don't think busan ever even lost to lunatic hai

gaunt acorn
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rankings are updated for today's games in pinned msgs

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it's not pretty

idle beacon
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so houston never had a draw so far?

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draw on maps

balmy wolf
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Shanghai won 4 maps

idle beacon
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or what's the number in the middle?

balmy wolf
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WOO

brisk roost
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Lmfao

humble moth
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thats division ranking

deft valley
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that's basically a game win

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what

idle beacon
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22-1-7

deft valley
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no it's not division ranking lol

idle beacon
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22 map rounds won

deft valley
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yeah it's draws

idle beacon
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7 map rounds lost

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whats the '1'

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?

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a draw on a map, or not?

deft valley
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yes

balmy wolf
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draw

idle beacon
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ye so ya .. houston hasn't had a draw yet .. not bad

humble moth
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cause they're gonna be numba one

idle beacon
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even better than nyxl

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map round based

balmy wolf
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Fuel is still the best team in the league

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they just need time to warm up

idle beacon
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4 weeks to warmup? ๐Ÿ˜„

balmy wolf
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yes

idle beacon
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hehe

balmy wolf
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they need to learn to work with their new players

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they got seagull the world's best genji and xqc best tank in the world

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need to learn to use them

brisk roost
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Lol

humble moth
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those two dudes look sad asf

brisk roost
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Btw I was so curious who is that D.Va cosplayer in the audience

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She's cute

idle beacon
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rofl @ dude xD

brisk roost
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Lmao XD!

delicate mural
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Them standings look so nooice.

balmy wolf
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Kill dynasty

delicate mural
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H-TOWN ON THE RISE.

balmy wolf
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end them

delicate mural
idle beacon
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she is hot af

humble moth
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NY Korean team beat Korea's Korean team

balmy wolf
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who is she

idle beacon
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that's dva's voice actor

balmy wolf
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oh

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well damn

slim summit
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those two are 100% siblings

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i can tell because of their faces

humble moth
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lol

brisk roost
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NOOO

idle beacon
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charlet chung

glacial sleet
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who are you guys rooting for outlaws or valiant?

limber pine
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@idle beacon

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wrong channel

balmy wolf
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outlaws

delicate mural
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Outlaws.

idle beacon
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ah yes

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sry

brisk roost
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Outlaw

vapid dragon
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Outlaws

humble moth
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outlaws all day

delicate mural
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Born and raised in Houston.

balmy wolf
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The Jakerat must be unleashed

delicate mural
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Outlaws for days.

humble moth
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^

brisk roost
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Outlaws ftw

glacial sleet
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nice

humble moth
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h-town is gonna win it

glacial sleet
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I like both teams but I'm rooting for valiant

delicate mural
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Screwston, baby.

idle beacon
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outlaws vs valiant?

balmy wolf
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I like Chinese food so I'm rooting for Shanghai

idle beacon
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valiant ofcourse!

delicate mural
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Doesn't matter who it is. Outlaws versus anyone, it's always Outlaws for me.

vapid dragon
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Same

brisk roost
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Yeah same tbh

smoky rain
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No love for LA

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sad life

idle beacon
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outlaws won't win their next 2 matches

smoky rain
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I actually know nothing about the current esports teams

delicate mural
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I don't like LA as a city and I don't care about their OWL teams. Sorry. :(

humble moth
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fuck off winston

glacial sleet
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envy, fate are so good

balmy wolf
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Outlaws has their hardest game of the season coming up

glacial sleet
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and soon with the backcaps

delicate mural
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Yeah, Houston plays Seoul tomorrow.

balmy wolf
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Soon is so funny

idle beacon
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@humble moth r u tellin me outlaws will win vs seoul and london?

brisk roost
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Outlaws should win the next one

slim summit
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Outlaws vs Spitfire will be a hard match for me

glacial sleet
#

hell yeah outlaws is gonna win

brisk roost
#

not sure about the Spitfire though

glacial sleet
#

jakerat bruh

humble moth
#

yes I am @idle beacon

delicate mural
#

Outlaws can beat Seoul. We'll see if they will. Don't even know yet if Linkzr will be healthy and good to go.

brisk roost
#

But still rooting for Outlaws

glacial sleet
#

linkzr widow is so good

delicate mural
#

He so is.

balmy wolf
#

I'm rooting for spitfire because Linkzr is a toxic sexist pos

glacial sleet
#

lets see if he can best fleta

idle beacon
#

@humble moth damn son .. what dysfunctions are you sufferin from ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate mural
#

But so is Fleta.

humble moth
#

@idle beacon Idk about seoul since they were hiding strats, but I know they're gonna beat Londong

#

london

idle beacon
#

@humble moth xD

#

hiding strats

#

sure

humble moth
#

hah

idle beacon
#

alternative dive strats

delicate mural
#

Houston and Seoul actually practice together.

balmy wolf
#

I'll root for outlaws if linkzr gets kicked off

glacial sleet
#

who has the better dva coolmat or zunba?

delicate mural
#

So that matchup should be interesting.

muted fox
#

what's up with linkzr?

delicate mural
#

He's awesome?

slim summit
#

pink eye

idle beacon
#

@glacial sleet fusion

slim summit
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

humble moth
#

gross

brisk roost
#

What's the difference between Flex and Flex Support?

balmy wolf
#

Flex is usually off-tank

glacial sleet
#

just look at harryhook

balmy wolf
#

Flex support is zenyatta/mercy/ana

idle beacon
#

flex is flex .. for anything

glacial sleet
#

support/ sometimes soldier

idle beacon
#

flex support is flexible for all supps

balmy wolf
#

No

idle beacon
#

what no?

balmy wolf
#

There are two support roles on a team

#

main support and flex support

idle beacon
#

zen,mercy,ana,moira,lucio

balmy wolf
#

main support is usually lucio

#

but now with mercy meta it's mercy

#

flex support was all the non lucio supports

#

but now it's everything but mercy

#

basically lucio and mercy changed places

idle beacon
#

i wonder if they really dismiss mercy after the OWL patch

balmy wolf
#

yes

humble moth
#

i see it happening

balmy wolf
#

I'm watching/playing in high tier scrims

idle beacon
#

just because the rezz changes?

balmy wolf
#

lots of moira

humble moth
#

zen and moira will be new meta

idle beacon
#

moira+ana

balmy wolf
#

no ana

idle beacon
#

ana with the heal boost

glacial sleet
#

ana still not in meta?

balmy wolf
#

ana is still dead

glacial sleet
#

damn

#

bummer

balmy wolf
#

she is playable now though

brisk roost
#

I see

idle beacon
#

infinite moira healin

glacial sleet
#

I guess shield tanks 2 strong

balmy wolf
#

you can play ana with a lucio now

#

after mercy nerf

#

seoul may do that

glacial sleet
#

yeah Ive seen that alot

balmy wolf
#

but for the most part ana still dead

slim summit
#

moira + lucio is better than ana + lucio

glacial sleet
#

I'm enjoying playing lucio now

slim summit
#

and moira + zen

#

and lucio + zen

balmy wolf
#

Moira lucio is the strongest support combo at the moment

brisk roost
#

I always see zen + mercy

balmy wolf
#

pros are experimenting with it

idle beacon
#

if ana throws her heal boost when moira's ulting .. it shoul actually be almost the same effect as zens transendence .. no?

slim summit
#

i feel like the best counter to moira + lucio + quad tank

balmy wolf
#

210 hp per second

#

but only in a line

slim summit
#

would be triple tank + ana + lucio

#

cus ana can deny heals

glacial sleet
#

idk, ana hard counters moira with the bio nade

idle beacon
#

how strong is lucio's barrier against dva, cree, pharah, gengu ults?

slim summit
#

and that was always the best part of her kit

balmy wolf
#

ana would be a good counter

#

but if you have a dva focus on eating her nades

#

she's just fucked

glacial sleet
#

so it's a skillmatchup at that point

balmy wolf
#

kind of

glacial sleet
#

a good ana will carry

#

but a bad one wont

balmy wolf
#

people will call out when the ana has nade

#

dva just looks at the ana when her nade comes up

slim summit
#

ana's team would be running counter dive anyway

glacial sleet
#

interesting

balmy wolf
#

It sucks how

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the easiest character in the game was the strongest by far

#

for so long

glacial sleet
#

huh

balmy wolf
#

mercy

glacial sleet
#

who are you talking to lol

idle beacon
#

so lucio barrier + moira ult = canceling gengu ult?

deft valley
#

do you know the concept of "the circle of Suck"

idle beacon
#

ah whatever .. freakin tired

deft valley
#

it's popular for normal sports

#

it's a circle where every team defeats the next team and is defeated by the previous

glacial sleet
#

@idle beacon lucio and zen ults cancel genji ult

#

no need to combine both ults

idle beacon
#

@deft valley got one more for ya .. sitfire and donutsty

deft valley
#

the challenge is to assemble it for the whole league

glacial sleet
#

wait, is this winston guy just a troll?

deft valley
#

if Outlaws beat Seoul tomorrow

#

(yes he is)

glacial sleet
#

that explains

deft valley
#

we will have a 10-team Circle of Suck

brisk roost
#

Wew

deft valley
#

except for winless Shanghai and only-beat-Shanghai Mayhem

idle beacon
#

n8 lads .. until the next OWL match later

brisk roost
#

Fuel is gonna beat Dragons for sure

#

Bout to go to bed too

deft valley
#

already did

brisk roost
#

Night folks

deft valley
#

oh wait not fuel

#

fuel will be in the circle

glacial sleet
#

I want shangai to win

#

for the memes

deft valley
#

if shanghai wins we may have a full one, I haven't checked that yet

#

but right now we have a line of SEO - DAL - SF - BOS - LON - LAV - LAG - PHI - NY - HOU

#

if houston beats seoul it closes up

#

Boston beat Florida

#

so if Shanghai beat london
there's a full circle

#

one of those is unrealistic one has a decent chance

balmy wolf
#

i cant stop watching that

#

Shanghai is my favorite team

bitter nebula
#

any games still going on

balmy wolf
#

nah theyre done

hidden vault
#

Boston uprising is the best

#

Since london beat seoul

#

And the beat london

long jewel
#

I don't think that's how it works

deft valley
#

transitive wins yea boi

forest raven
#

Seoul is now 5th in the standings

deft valley
#

related to the circle
if houston beats seoul, everyone (aside from mayhem and dragons) will be better and worse than everyone else

long jewel
#

So

#

What your saying is

#

Everyone's shit

deft valley
#

yes

long jewel
#

I agree

deft valley
#

that's why it's called the circle of suck after all

long jewel
#

I'm glad that we came to this conclusion

hidden vault
#

Circle of suck

#

How about circle of pros

#

You keep beating the best to become the best

#

Then someone else beats you and you become the best

deft valley
#

that's the same thing

#

it's "properly" called the circle of parity
but circle of suck is more fun

forest wharf
#

im still salty about that seoul loss

whole mulch
#

Well

#

They had the weirdest lineup in comparison to what they usually run

forest wharf
#

yea, no ryujehong killed the game

whole mulch
#

I feel like the NYXL loss got to them

forest wharf
#

i mean, at least that game was close...

whole mulch
#

It was close but seoul bragged that no team could beat them

#

I guess the loss hurt their ego or something

balmy wolf
#

lol

#

that's why you don't say shit like that.

#

so it won't come back to bite you in the ass

forest wharf
#

ryujehong has just been stuck at home crying, that explains his absence

balmy wolf
#

wait wut

delicate mural
vestal mortar
#

I wake up and see the results NotLikeSoldier

solid spear
#

fantastic arent they

#

Seoul rebound next game

deft valley
#

pls no

#

not my circle

#

i'm full in on houston tomorrow

solid spear
#

I dont want Seoul to lose for once pogchampagne

deft valley
#

i've even got the templates ready
but don't wanna jinx

vestal mortar
#

I dunno if I am physically able to stay awake until 2am to watch live but I wanna see Outlaws vs Dynasty live so bad.

whole mulch
#

Do it

solid spear
#

dont do it its a trap

vestal mortar
#

Oh noey ๐Ÿ‘€

solid spear
#

if Seoul drops a map I turn it off

#

looking forward to boston Valient but its end of the week

rare tangle
#

got tracer outlaws skin

solid spear
gaunt acorn
spring lintel
#

Dynasty 4-0โ€™d OMEGALUL

slim summit
#

ikr

#

My team just 4-0'd Dynasty, AMA

raven violet
#

I woke up and saw the results, I'm watching the game back to see what happened

slim summit
#

The battle for title match slots is very much up in the air ...

#

New York Excelsior has the easiest path

#

Dallas, then Florida, then London

#

but they need only to win 2 of them and they'll make it

raven violet
#

Seoul hasn't had the hardest teams this entire season so maybe they're not as good as people think

#

I mean apart from NY

slim summit
#

Seoul has to go through Houston, Valiant, then Shock

fresh arrow
#

if linkzr is still sick then they have a chance

#

also unkoe next week but i doubt he'll still be out next week

raven violet
#

We can all agree that Shanghai sucks though

fresh arrow
#

they're improving

#

still rough

#

but improving

slim summit
#

Shanghai only plays London, Dallas, and Valiant

fresh arrow
#

"only"

slim summit
#

which means there's a pretty good chance they won't be taking any series in stage 1

#

I just mean, they don't really have a chance :x

#

Dallas might be within striking distance

fresh arrow
#

SHD are similar to dallas in that they put the team on a couple of players' backs

#

undead and possibly roshan for SHD

gaunt acorn
#

SHD signed the Miraculous Youngster coach

#

and they are signing 2, mabe 3 MY players soon

fresh arrow
#

is that effective immediately though?

gaunt acorn
#

you can already see their improvement thanks to the MY coach

fresh arrow
#

as in the coach

gaunt acorn
#

yeah he's already coaching

fresh arrow
#

oh

gaunt acorn
#

undead played good today

#

or well, yesterday

fresh arrow
#

can't get new players in immediately so you get the coach in instead

gaunt acorn
fresh arrow
#

i only watched the first part of eich this morning and yeah undead was fantastic

#

libero was making it tough for diya though

scarlet spear
#

dragons definitely had huge improvements, nuts to see how much just getting one coach has changed them in the short amount of time... really looking forward to their pickups

#

but 4-0 for london, god damn why did i fall asleep

fresh arrow
#

you can still watch the VOD when you have time

#

no stress

scarlet spear
#

i know, its still something else tho knowing that it already happened

#

was the game good ?

slim summit
#

eh

fresh arrow
#

i didn't watch it tbh

slim summit
#

there were a few close moments

fresh arrow
#

no ryujehong is all i know about it

#

sorry for spoilers

scarlet spear
#

i saw that

slim summit
#

ilios was the best map probably

scarlet spear
#

fell asleep during first map

slim summit
#

dorado came really close

scarlet spear
#

hmm might check em out

slim summit
#

Dynasty didn't take a point until Dorado

spring lintel
#

I already seoul were trash since the pre season when they couldnโ€™t deal with jakeโ€™s junkrat on lunar colony

#

Well not trash but kinda bad in this meta

scarlet spear
#

to be fair they did a lot better than in worldcup/preseason with their mercy play so far

#

still sad to see tobi/rjh on mercy tho

spring lintel
#

Next stage is gonna be so much better

#

Except we will see junkrat sadly

slim summit
#

better maps, better meta

spring lintel
#

Moira is gonna be meta AF

#

She is so fucking obnoxious

slim summit
#

i have to imagine we'll see another tank heavy meta

#

because widow

spring lintel
#

Meta gonna be triple or quad tank

#

With moira

slim summit
#

it would be hilarious to go from this meta straight into quad tank lucio moira

spring lintel
#

Junkrat is still OP as fuck

slim summit
#

is riptire the best ult in the game now?

spring lintel
#

In what regards?

slim summit
#

highest value

spring lintel
#

Highest value should be grav

slim summit
#

charges fast on top of that

spring lintel
#

Itโ€™s pretty OP, it needs to be either slower or they should lower it health so you can one shot it with mccree

slim summit
#

agreed

#

it seems like in most of my comp games the fight winning ults belong to junkrat

fresh arrow
#

this is where someone links the 30 second riptire

spring lintel
#

What do you guys think of pine and libero as the main dps duo?

#

Did pine prove himself last night?

scarlet spear
#

pine played great

#

imo

#

solid tracer performance aswell

#

SBB is just the better tracer tho

#

makes sense that they have Sbb and Libero in for most the matches

hidden vault
#

tbh if I was MY I would form another team in Shanghai and kick LDG's ass

scarlet spear
#

well

#

they were another team in shanghai

#

but they literally had no funding

#

thats why they disbanded

#

can't fill your stomach on hopes and dreams

hidden vault
#

but a lousier team LDG had

#

nvm

#

let's not go into it

#

Who are the MY player they are gonna sign?

#

aren't they playing PUBG?

scarlet spear
#

zhufanjun and lateyoung i think?

#

were the rumours

#

nothing has been confirmed so far anyways

hidden vault
#

Hopefully there would be actually sponsors for MY to be OWL rather then be in the same team as LDG gaming

#

I would like to see MY kick's LDG gaming's ass

fresh arrow
#

missed the pine discussion

#

i mostly found it funny how tracer and zarya weren't really doing much

#

then he swapped to mccree and literally all of SHD started falling like flies

hidden vault
#

And who is My's coach?

#

tbh i'm surprised such a pro china team like shanghai dragons would allow a south korean coach on their team (Not talking about MY's coach)

scarlet spear
#

?

#

MY is chinese

north tendon
#

wish leave would be in owl

#

was a solid dps for MY

scarlet spear
#

i think hes still underage, isnt he?

north tendon
#

oh, im not sure

scarlet spear
#

he doesnt have a birthday on liquipedia, the others have

#

i think he isnt yet

north tendon
#

that makes sense

#

I would rather they form another team in owl with most of MY if possible

#

just adding some to dragons seems eh

#

but we'll see

mystic hornet
#

I think the league is too America-centric in general. Like, only 1 EU team is disgraceful

#

And even then, like no one on it is even European

fresh arrow
#

but the florida team is literally all europeans

hidden vault
#

swedish really

#

except logix and zuppeh

fresh arrow
#

ye

#

no americans on fusion either

#

only one on fuel

whole mulch
#

No european teams wanted to pay 20mil for a team I guess

#

NA has a lot more money

fresh arrow
#

uprising only has 2 americans

#

valiant has two as well

#

none in LAG

hidden vault
#

tbh they just need Chipshajen and snillo to form the swedish world cup team

#

lolz

scarlet spear
#

its just america centered because thats where the investment is coming from, makes sense

fresh arrow
#

literally the only real "american" team is outlaws

whole mulch
#

Ye what pfre said

fresh arrow
#

even then it's only like half the lineup

#

i personally don't really care about it being america centred

#

they're making efforts to schedule games to suit worldwidee audiences

#

and Fusion University are recruiting one player in Philadelphia anyway

hidden vault
#

yeahh but there are still LiNkzr Mendokusaii SPREE and Bani

#

so not really?

fresh arrow
#

"like half the lineup"

#

6 USA to 4 non USA

#

close enough, man

deft valley
#

"schedule games to suit worldwidee audiences"
laughs in 5AM

fresh arrow
#

the london games are better for EU fans

#

the seoul games are better for KR fans

hidden vault
#

best we can get for an american team

fresh arrow
#

everything else is kind of in the middle

deft valley
#

not realllly

fresh arrow
#

feelsgood to be AUS

deft valley
#

plus more people in europe are fusion and fuel fans than london lmao

fresh arrow
#

most of the games are like mid morning to early afternoon here

scarlet spear
#

the london games are better for EU fans 3 AM on a thursday when london is playing GWnanamiPepeHands

hidden vault
#

Fuel is just pure international but no america lol
okay you have seagull

deft valley
#

so's fusion

#

the main lineup has 6 different coutries, none of them US

fresh arrow
#

7 countries

#

but ye none are american

hidden vault
#

they are really fusion

deft valley
#

"the main lineup"
As in carpe - sdb - poko - fragi - boom - neptuno

#

the full roster isn't as fun because it's 8/10
while the first starters are 6/6

fresh arrow
#

oh right fair

hidden vault
#

tbh I wonder how GC busan will fair if they actually played as a team for Busan instead of london

fresh arrow
#

i don't think it would make a difference

#

@upper patrol their coach is KR so that's probably a factor

hidden vault
#

I'm surpised Shaghai as a korean coach

#

they seem like such pro china ๐Ÿ˜‚

onyx shore
#

the OWL scheduling doesnt help asian fans

#

and there's nothing they can do to make it better

#

that seoul vs london game started at 9 AM here,which means it was 11 AM in korea on friday

#

lul

finite cedar
#

You can*'t* have worldwide coverage for everything.

onyx shore
#

i mean 9AM on my local time,KR time is my local time +2

#

the worst day is the last day of the week

#

london vs dallas gonna start at 2AM my local time

#

which means it was 3 or 4 AM china/korea local time

#

lel

finite cedar
#

It's also to be "nicer" with European times and allow enough spot for the finals.

onyx shore
#

true

finite cedar
#

And 3 teams are from there too.

#

Or rather from California.

onyx shore
#

but tbh

#

i'm happy that overwatch match

#

is short

#

you can have 5 maps match for an hour

#

that's why i prefer watching this over dota2 now

slim summit
#

lol

#

4-0 squad

#

I want so badly for Houston to beat Seoul

finite cedar
#

And for compromise it's also an ok time zone. It's awefull if you want to work with people there, but for events it kinda works. It means games are morning in Asia, and at least a game is at an ok time for Europe.

onyx shore
#

at dota2,you can start best of 3 at noon,and it will finish on dinner time

#

lul

slim summit
#

I'm a thirsty boy

finite cedar
#

CSGO also, with a BO3 over a BO30.

onyx shore
#

btw

#

i wonder what kind of all star match they gonna have at the end of season?

#

pacific vs atlantic ?

#

doesnt matter

#

it's like an exhibition match

#

just for fun

#

i wish they gonna do 6 players deathmatch on each divisions

#

the winner from each divsions face off in best of 10 1v1 match

scarlet spear
#

torb hammer only battle royale

onyx shore
#

that would be boring

#

roadhog wars

#

or do 3v3 tournament

slim summit
#

I would like some officially sanctioned Lucioball ๐Ÿ˜„

deft valley
#

speaking of

#

I saw someone on dynasty with a lucioball hero spray

#

not sure who it was though

finite cedar
#

Toby ?

deft valley
#

would make sense lol

green gate
#

I heard Seoul got 4:0'd????

limber pine
#

sure did

green gate
#

How?

#

lol

#

they are only 5th place now haha

limpid estuary
#

London did it

green gate
#

korean only team right?

limpid estuary
#

Yes

green gate
#

aw haha

young sonnet
#

It was a good fisting

#

And i believe that's putting it lightly

brisk roost
#

Yeah Spitfire kicked their asses lmao

vestal mortar
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

delicate mural
tawny sigil
#

what do we got today

brisk roost
#

Shock vs Mayhem

#

Dynasty vs Outlaws

#

Gladiators vs Uprising

magic zinc
#

Oooooh Seoul vs Houston

#

Oooh its at 3am

scarlet spear
#

yup GWnanamiPepeHands

vestal mortar
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

strong parrotBOT
#
London Spitfire

Gesture
Woohyal
Birdring
Fury
Bdosin
Profit
Rascal
Closer
Hooreg
Nus
HagoPeun

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1300 42 23 20
1215 26 13 0
1162 41 17 19
1161 7 3 0
1159 5 5 5
1145 35 19 21
986 8 10 4
950 1 17 14
944 8 7 6
901 1 7 5
783 14 29 13

Seoul Dynasty

Fleta
zunba
Miro
Gido
Bunny
tobi

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

919 38 37 21
913 29 26 0
883 30 28 16
860 15 36 18
822 34 33 25
647 3 31 17

MVP

Gesture/Winston: 1335 Rating

Play of the game

Gesture as Winston on Dorado: 4 Kills

tawny sigil
#

when is dallas against shanghai

narrow dew
#

next week

tawny sigil
#

ALRIGHT

#

gonna be beautiful

vagrant jacinth
#

When Seoul lose 4:0 widowlol

tawny sigil
#

was ALMOST.... a perfect 4-0

#

not sure if that ever happened so far

flat kiln
#

@molten niche

vagrant jacinth
#

Yeah a perfect win would've been the icing on the cake

feral wing
#

will shanghai ever win lol

young sonnet
#

Spitfire > NYXL? Thoughts? ๐Ÿค”

feral wing
#

meh

brisk roost
#

It would be so sad if they never win lol

feral wing
#

maybe

brisk roost
#

I have a feeling Excelsior will stay on top

feral wing
#

have we had a spitfire vs nyxl match yet?

#

Excelsior and Spitfire are tied

#

neither are at the top

young sonnet
#

Yh it was 3-2 to nyxl right?

#

Or am i dreaming

brisk roost
#

Well Excelsior is on top right now followed by Spitfire

feral wing
#

wasnt that vs dynasty?

#

no 38

#

r8

#

they have the same win/loss record

brisk roost
#

I know

#

I was talking about the standings

feral wing
#

unless you count map wins but I dont have the time to do that

#

exactly

brisk roost
#

Same stats it's just Excelsior is above for now

feral wing
#

on the standings they have the same win/loss they just have to rank them some way so excelsior are at 1. and spitfire at 2.

brisk roost
#

Outlaws is at 3 yo I can't wait to see later

#

Outlaws vs Dynasty

feral wing
#

outlaws vs dynasty will be a huge match

brisk roost
#

I want Outlaws to win

feral wing
#

if dynasty wins

young sonnet
#

It's gonna be wild. Did they say why jehong didn't play?

brisk roost
#

He didn't

feral wing
#

then they will knock houston down to a shared 6th place

#

with fusion

young sonnet
#

Jehong didn't play against spitfire yesterday

feral wing
#

and dynasty will climb up the ladder from their current 5th place

brisk roost
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They replaced Jehong for Gido I think

feral wing
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but if houston wins

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then dynasty will be at a shared 6th place with fusion

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the next few matches will be tough for outlaws

young sonnet
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That's gonna be nutty. The team everyone thought was gonna dominate in 6th place

brisk roost
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It is yo

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They're versing Dynasty and Spitfire next

feral wing
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and then uprising

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the uprising match will be interesting

vestal mortar
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They thought that Gido's different playstyle would give them an edge against spitfire. They thought that other teams had figured out Jehong's playstyle.

feral wing
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we will get to see how uprising compares to one of the best western teams in the league

brisk roost
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Sucks that Fleta couldn't carry Dynasty though lmao

vestal mortar
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Clearly things did not go as planned ๐Ÿ˜›

young sonnet
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Huh strange. Obviously didn't work out for them. Wonder why they didn't swap him in to get at least some game time.

feral wing
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that 4-0 against dallas though

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lmao

brisk roost
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Lmao I know right

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Fusion just outright beat them

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I knew Excelsior vs Dragons would be a one sided match

vestal mortar
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Some people have said that Dynasty split the team and have been prioritising beating Outlaws over Spitfire.

feral wing
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That is actually smart though

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they cant beat spitfire out of the top 6 but they can beat out outlaws

brisk roost
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If that's the case then Outlaws might have a hard time

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But I'm still rooting for Outlaws

feral wing
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same here

vestal mortar
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Yes, that is indeed my concern too.

feral wing
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I dont want the korean teams at the top lmao

young sonnet
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Is it though? I feel like a B team seoul would still put up a damn strong fight against outlaws

strong parrotBOT
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New York Excelsior

MekO
JJoNak
Pine
ArK
Libero
Mano

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1576 48 17 5
1536 34 22 17
1422 71 22 28
1311 1 14 21
1297 72 17 20
1227 39 18 17

Shanghai Dragons

uNdeAD
Freefeel
FiveKing
Diya
Roshan
mg

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

788 39 51 17
755 15 44 19
633 0 36 18
557 18 45 20
433 18 55 16
22 18 40 3

MVP

MekO/D.Va: 1699 Rating

Play of the game

Libero as Genji on Dorado: 5 Kills

feral wing
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wat lol

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why did that suddenly pop up

brisk roost
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Idk