now it's "from the ground up" too lmao
#esports-discussion
deft valley
lofty rapids
Then yes.
fiery reef
Yeah thats where we disagree
but go ahead and keep assuming that because I disagree I'm some how xenophobic because of it
full lion
norcetto's definitions of "represent" and "xenophobia" are very loose
lofty rapids
And I'm basing it on sports history and a drive for cities to try and get the best skill and not gimp that with national affirmative action.
You're basing it on the fact you don't like it.
fiery reef
What other teams represent a country they don't live in or play in? In sports
lofty rapids
Holy shit we've been over this.
delicate mural
My ๐ account - Today at 12:33 AM
the arenas have to be purpose made
lofty rapids
There isn't a country based team in owl
fiery reef
Im not talking about that
lofty rapids
Once again, you're just fishing for a defense
deft valley
I'm talking about the set up for the space
bitter nebula
@deft valley riot studios did it
delicate mural
I'm sorry, are you suggesting that it'll be a problem because they'll need to build 12+ facades to put in a building?
deft valley
which does need to be made
delicate mural
Because that's even dumber.
lofty rapids
You said you don't know sports, so I could literally make something up. You're just grasping at what you think probably is how it works.
delicate mural
As an excuse for why it can't be done.
fiery reef
Really because I can't just google what you tell me to fact check it
Man I wish google existed
lofty rapids
Exactly.
whole mulch
Guys who are your favorite OWL teams :)
deft valley
that's such a stupid fucking argument
fiery reef
But I'm glad to know you are willing to make shit up to try to win an arguement
lofty rapids
You're just throwing shit put and waiting to fact check.
deft valley
but yes you go get that windmill
lofty rapids
Even though you're the one presenting a problem.
It's on you to explain why it's a problem.
delicate mural
You said the arena needs to be purpose made. That, to mean, means the building they play in. If you mean just the fucking fiberglass and screens and seats in the building, then you have no argument at all. So I assumed you must've meant the building, because it's the only way it even remotely makes sense.
bitter nebula
@whole mulch hey man we are talking about great dsicussions about teams representing theirregions here, stop talking about relevant topics
but Philly
they will make playoffs
fiery reef
I've already explained it. How can you represent a place you neither live in or play in. I don't give a fuck who pays you. If you don't live or play there, you don't represent them.
deft valley
i'm done with this conversation lmao
whole mulch
I've been a SBB fan a long time :)
delicate mural
๐
bitter nebula
NYXL < SEOUL
whole mulch
I'm also from new york
lofty rapids
Because they do?
full lion
i dont have a favorite team 
fiery reef
Why?
bitter nebula
peopel sleeping on SEOUL now that they dropped a game
delicate mural
lofty rapids
Ask a hockey fan why they support a Russian on their NHL team
deft valley
I know why I support a Russian on my team
delicate mural
There is absolutely no one sleeping on Seoul. They still pull in the highest viewer count.
fiery reef
Do you think in between each game the russian flys home?
lofty rapids
Facts. That's how it exists in sports. It's part of the data set
deft valley
my boy sdb
fiery reef
@lofty rapids So every russian flies home after every single game. They don't live in the city they play for during season?
deft valley
oh come on
lofty rapids
No... Because they move close to work.
deft valley
you can't purposefully ignore
fiery reef
EXACTLY
onyx shore
so othinus
lofty rapids
Just like overwatch players have done
deft valley
the fact that they play in the city they represent
fiery reef
Really?
bitter nebula
@whole mulch your thoughts on me saying people are too low on SEOUL
lofty rapids
They've moved close to work.
deft valley
and owl doesn't
fiery reef
So they LIVE in London .. right now?
delicate mural
For season one. What a dumb argument. ๐
onyx shore
what do you want? the london spitfire team actually lives in london and travel to play
or do you want english players on london team?
fiery reef
no
whole mulch
@bitter nebula Seoul is still the best team in the league
lofty rapids
Yeah, the plan is for them to move to London and have a home arena.
whole mulch
but I support xl
fiery reef
I don't care who is on the team as long as they actually live where they represent WHILE representing them.
lofty rapids
I'm pretty sure they've already signed an agreement with the hotspurs
bitter nebula
yeah i think they are biut a lot of peopel are kinda shitting on them
onyx shore
then it's clear,wait for season 2
bitter nebula
since they lost
whole mulch
They barely lost
onyx shore
can it happen? i dont think so
whole mulch
it was a close game
lofty rapids
So they should live in London and fly to la.
whole mulch
good game
onyx shore
can it be done? yes
whole mulch
they beat nyxl in preseason, remember?
fiery reef
@static daggerediaz#5606 I've already known this, but @lofty rapids decided to start calling me a Xenophobe for believing that.
whole mulch
3-1 I believe?
lofty rapids
Also, even if they were all from London, them moving to LA would make them no longer represent London because they don't live there.
fiery reef
Anyway, I've got class in the morning. I'm out.
delicate mural
Some guy - "THEY ONLY PLAY IN LA, SO IT'S NOT THE SAME!"
Everyone else - "What about season 2?"
Some guy - "NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'LL HAVE ARENAS IN THE HOME CITIES BY THEN, BECAUSE IT'S DAMNING TO MY FLIMSY ARGUMENT!"
lofty rapids
Seriously.
fiery reef
^ that wasn't me
fiery reef
I never said the ywouldn't have Arena
delicate mural
It was this one. ๐
deft valley
and it had nothing to do with his argument
but with the logistics
but you just go tar everyone who disagrees with you with the same brush lmao
whole mulch
I don''t fit any of those :(
deft valley
that's how the rest of the internet works so why not
delicate mural
Dozens of people are paid to be smarter than you about figuring out those logistics.
full lion
if owl turn in huge numbers and it made economic sense to have nome arenas then it would happen
delicate mural
Don't you worry your pretty, little head.
fiery reef
Good night everyone, hope we get some good games tomorrow
deft valley
tone down your snark lmao
delicate mural
Snark is all I have.
whole mulch
Good night
onyx shore
imo
deft valley
those windmills ain't gonna fight themselves mr. quixote
whole mulch
I want to see spitfire vs dynasty already
bitter nebula
@whole mulch i wish we would be dsicussuing actual OWL espoerts instead of on topic discussion about why dont teams only have peopel in theri regions
whole mulch
I was in this chat during the games jetto and it was dead
I'm not sure what is being discussed at the moment
but woo, go nyxl! :D
deft valley
The rosters and logistics are playing are pertinent to the esport
full lion
wait why would the divisions be necessary
deft valley
"This chat sucks" isn't @bitter nebula
bitter nebula
nah
onyx shore
i mean
deft valley
and yet that's all you've posted here
delicate mural
You have many teams within a couple hundred miles of one another. The way the NBA handles is, granted with a lot more money, is traveling from one city to the next in close proximity to save on travel expenses.
lofty rapids
@bitter nebula we are, just not what you want to talk about. Team locales in the owl and the fans that support them are related to overwatch eSports.
delicate mural
And come back for home games.
onyx shore
let's imagine there are enough teams
bitter nebula
no norc
onyx shore
you can make overwatch europe league
bitter nebula
like imagine if we were saying this about UEFA CL teams
deft valley
we aren't
onyx shore
london,madrid,munchen,russia,milan teams
onyx shore
yeah
lofty rapids
Stop saying it's not eSports related just because you don't like.
bitter nebula
we arent because it would be fuckign retarded
deft valley
we're talking about the overwatch league teams
onyx shore
imagine soccer league
lofty rapids
To you...
onyx shore
but on bigger scale
onyx shore
bcos srsly
delicate mural
@lofty rapids But I thought arguments on the internet were based on irrational emotional attachments to things and not at all facts and logic. :(
onyx shore
traveling every week from let's say london to LA is expensive
lofty rapids
@delicate mural no one said that
deft valley
@delicate mural we'll get right back to that, don't worry your pretty little head
onyx shore
logistical nightmare
full lion
so having different divisions would make travelling more feasable
onyx shore
yeah
delicate mural
We!
full lion
ok i see
onyx shore
europeans team will only have to travel within europe
delicate mural
I like we.
whole mulch
We is nice
deft valley
see, did just that
whole mulch
Still no idea what is going on here
delicate mural
When you step up to bat with snark, you better hit it out of the park on the first swing, kiddo. :3
whole mulch
I don't
deft valley
can't match your strike count either way
whole mulch
I just want to see spitfire's game alreadyy
delicate mural
YOU'RE IN THE SNARK BIG LEAGUES NOW, LITTLE BOY.
full lion
this a philosophical discussion about the logic of sports fandom lol
and some people are just shitposting
whole mulch
๐ฉ
deft valley
no, by this point it's a discussion on what's related to the discussion
which is
just
no
full lion
and also talkign about the logistics of teams living in their citiers
deft valley
I mean it's an important point
whole mulch
The teams live in the cities they represent?
deft valley
they're supposed to by S2
whole mulch
There was a video of SBB in NYC
deft valley
which means they'll get to it by S3
whole mulch
with his team
full lion
oh shit sbb went to ny?
whole mulch
yes
deft valley
not living though
whole mulch
I hope I can meet him
full lion
thats cool tho
delicate mural
They said season 2, but @deft valley is a logistics major, so he knows it's season 3.
full lion
it would be cool to go see them
bitter nebula
who is a logistechs major??
delicate mural
Eric Andre up there.
deft valley
But @delicate mural is an all seer so he knows they'll get right there
full lion
well i imagine nyxl would play in the javits center here in ny
toxic pasture
shut
delicate mural
I think you're underestimating how much easier the buildings will be to pin down than the travel schedule and expenses.
deft valley
I never said the buildings are the only reason
full lion
i dont think owl is big enough for madsion sq garden
delicate mural
Nah, you did say they'd have to build purpose specific arenas, though.
Them big ass.
Esports.
deft valley
jesus fucking christ
deft valley
okay well you've got nothing useful to say
deft valley
ah this is nicer
delicate mural
full lion
so when are you turning 13 nami
whole mulch
I turned 13 last week ๐
bitter nebula
saltyy
whole mulch
yes
bitter nebula
who are your top 3 teams
valid gust
I played with Carpe today
bitter nebula
the retarded discussion has died now
valid gust
On the ladder
deft valley
let's not descend into shitposting again shall we
whole mulch
In terms of favorites, or who I think are the best?
bitter nebula
who u think are best
whole mulch
eh I have to say the 3 korean teams
plucky rune
the team that beat the koreans
bitter nebula
if i said favs you would say philly #2
whole mulch
they're all at like 5-1
plucky rune
who were they
whole mulch
boston and fusion
deft valley
there were two
bitter nebula
yo
whole mulch
are the only 2 non koreans
plucky rune
boston is a half korean team
bitter nebula
how is boston legit competiting
full lion
it still half counts
bitter nebula
i thought they would be with shangai
whole mulch
striker is a god
bitter nebula
eh
plucky rune
what about fusion?
bitter nebula
FUSION TOP 4
whole mulch
fusion has carpe
deft valley
they're not "an actual korean team bought out" like London, NY and Seoul though
plucky rune
SanFran Shock is the Cubs of the OWL
whole mulch
shock has no koreans
deft valley
108 years without a championship? @plucky rune
bitter nebula
in that one map
plucky rune
Probably
bitter nebula
cubs already won a ws recently
plucky rune
After a century
onyx shore
nope
whole mulch
No
bitter nebula
no
whole mulch
soon
onyx shore
even with sinaatra playing
full lion
soooooon
bitter nebula
shangai are a joke tho
onyx shore
i dont think we gonna see massive improvement
full lion
dont you talk about shanghai
bitter nebula
how the fuck do you not bring your best 5 chinese players
full lion
mayhem is the joke
bitter nebula
mayhem struggleing
full lion
yeah they fucked up when putting the shanhai team together but they imporved a shit ton so far
bitter nebula
yea
onyx shore
bcos of collusion probably
full lion
collusiion?
bitter nebula
cant tell me that was the best 5
full lion
it wasnt
bitter nebula
but props to their coacign staff
onyx shore
do you think shanghai can break the egg?
bitter nebula
their coaching staff is top 5 in the league tbh
onyx shore
they lost against mayhem
bitter nebula
when all said and done
onyx shore
i dont see them beating dallas fuel either
whole mulch
When whoru is old enough, will shadowburn even play
bitter nebula
can we go back to relevant dicussion liek region locking /cringe
deft valley
why wouldn't he
whole mulch
whoru is considered the better projectile player, no?
deft valley
although that may be a way off
whole mulch
fuel can beat dragons
deft valley
thing is, with the one year contracts
we may see a lot of movement
full lion
i hope they beat dragons
onyx shore
why not just play 3 dps then? (fusion)
deft valley
especially with the expansion
whole mulch
fusion may run 3 dps
whole mulch
shadowburn on pharah carpe tracer whoru genji
onyx shore
sdb can play zarya/pharah
whole mulch
that's not a strange comp for koth
whole mulch
whoru used to be a genji one trick
deft valley
sdb may not be on Philly when whoru is old enough
whole mulch
so if he's on fusion i dont think shadowburn will be playing much genji
onyx shore
being a meta one trick is not a problem in this hame
whole mulch
that too
whole mulch
no
onyx shore
yeah
full lion
i thought that the kephrii hate was just a meme but then i saw him in one of calvin's games last night
whole mulch
kephrii cant tracer
onyx shore
i dont think kephrii can play those other heroes on owl level
whole mulch
also yeah pros hate kephrii
onyx shore
his widow level is
full lion
he fed on widow and then went symmerta and contributed nothing\
i think he's an actual one trick
whole mulch
he throws games
he's thrown at least 3 of my games so far
sometimes he duos with people
and throws
without respect for his duo
full lion
he was duo'd with vale last night 
whole mulch
does vale still play mercy
full lion
yup
whole mulch
I tried to stream snipe kephrii yesterda
bitter nebula
wat elo are you saltyy
whole mulch
but I think too many ppl tried as well
full lion
lol
whole mulch
4000s
bitter nebula
saltyy
full lion
i would have thoguht that any one decent on widow would be able to play at least mccree automatically
and maybe soldier
whole mulch
but the thing everyone dislikes about him
he will throw the game insisting he isn't
like pick doomfist and slam into enemy team and die
which he has done in my game
then say he tried
onyx shore
i think i saw kephrii's vod few months ago,the guy doesnt even turn on his kill feed
full lion
wow what a shitter
whole mulch
yesterday he had no kill feed due to a bug
that might be what you were talking about
whole mulch
oh
whole mulch
I'm in one of his videos
but
idk why he uploaded it
it's just spawn camping in an unbalanced game
full lion
i guess someone who enjoys thorwing games would also enjoy spawn camping
onyx shore
which tournament is it
bitter nebula
salty you on a team
bitter nebula
good
full lion
what do you play salty
gaunt acorn
rankings updated for today in pinned msgs
pseudo sail
Hey ppl, icymi, my 'weekly' column is out. It goes into predictions about Seoul, Spitfire, NYXL, Philly, Houston, Fuel and Mayhem. Hope you enjoy it and will appreciate yo usharing it around, if you do! ^^ https://twitter.com/RadoNonfire/status/958959495614554112
finite cedar
So Fl0w3r will be able to play this year it seems...
forest raven
Nope, season 2
finite cedar
Yeah, watching watch point and the comissioner clarified it.
slim summit
was fl0w3r signed?
gaunt acorn
by NYXL, more or less yeah
slim summit
is sinatraa being paid right now
even though he isn't on the team officially
or is but can't play
"officially" was a poor choice of words
gaunt acorn
his contracts are signed so probably(?)
finite cedar
It's a weird stuff. They are basically contracted by the team, but not by the league.
finite cedar
Depends how the teams are spreading up the prize money.
scarlet spear
i mean sinatraa is playing season1 afaik, so i'm pretty sure hes already being paid
finite cedar
Fl0w3r is probably also being paid. He's basically locked in the NYXL team until at least the contenders.
scarlet spear
ouch those philly stats
strong parrotBOT
Overwatch League - Season 1 - Stage 1
red anvil
Texans slaughter you mean
marsh trench
that is, if they don't have their shit together by then
i hear they've been working on communication. like having a non-dps player being the shotcaller
finite cedar
For me, Dallas can without too many issue have written off phase 1.
Just focus it on improvement, disregard the scores.
torpid charm
ugh, looking at those Philly stats made my heart ache. it'll be a better day today I hope
uncut moon
Stompwatch : 0 
spring lintel
Tonight we will see if DF improved or not.
Nyxl if taking this seriously, should be able to 4-0 without losing a map/point
torpid charm
I'm gonna be really crushed if we catch another L tonight
marsh trench
which team?
fresh arrow
Fusion
torpid charm
Fusion 4 life 
spring lintel
Fusion will destroy DF unless DF changed and improved a lot which I doubt
torpid charm
that's how I'm feeling
feral wing
Well fusion vs valiant was really close, valiant barely won every round.
finite cedar
Valiant just hold well in clutch moment. Their turnback on Numbani was great.
rare tangle
outlaws are the sauce
scarlet spear
woa thats kinda cool
signal pulsar
is overwatch league today or tomorrow for this week?
scarlet spear
its always wednesday/thursday/friday/saturday afaik
finite cedar
It's 5 weeks on from Wednesday to Friday, then 2 weeks break.
grizzled mulch
red anvil
Maybe Dallas can win something for once 
torpid charm
I'd like to see Dallas get another W but not against the Fusion boys
terse tusk
Maybe against Shanghai, tho I want Shanghai to win
finite cedar
For me, Dallas should be able to do it well on Escort and Hybrid. It's the Control and Assault maps that are more dangerous for them. Their comfort comp is lacking mobility.
torpid charm
the thing is with assault maps, Fusion is good with attacking but when it comes to holding, we either have it or fuck up really badly
scarlet spear
well better than first game at 1AM 
feral wing
The overwatch league is basically just made for north america to be completely honest
scarlet spear
for viewing times definitely
i love how nate was talking about making London games as watchablel as possible for EU
and then they have London playing at 4 AM
feral wing
there are only like 3 teams or so that are not from north america though
I do realize the players are more international
its just that you are more likely to root for a team thats from somewhere around your country and that you have a stronger connection to etc.
and the viewing times are ridiculous for europe
magic zinc
I'd like Sunday games over Wednesday games but hey what can you do
round wraith
NYEX fans in here
fiery reef
About to tag a mod. Mod beats you to it
pearl stratus
I think more teams should do the Fusion Hometown Hero thing.
Good way to anchor the team.
Even if you get some random mediocre unknown who rides the bench a bunch, its still your Rudy-esque story.
unborn basalt
is there anyway to view all OWL skins on a hero?
balmy wolf
yea
go to owl thing
then go to the teams
then go on heroes
do that for all of them
unborn basalt
is there any easier way xd
balmy wolf
im not so sure xD
unborn basalt
thank you anyway
night thunder
I kinda feel bad for shanghi
they are only team w/o a win ๐ฆ
and their next two matches are london spitfire and nyxl
pearl stratus
Yet they have the highest selling merch numbers.
Which I think is hilariously cute.
"They didn't win games, but they did win hearts."
subtle fable
Stage 1 remaining match
Nyxl(5-1)'s remaining match : Dallas(1-5) Mayhem(1-6) London(5-1) Shanghai(0-6) = total opponent score 7-18
Seoul(5-1)'s : Houston(5-2) LAV(5-2) London(5-1) SF(2-5) = 17-10
London(5-1)'s : Houston(5-2) Nyxl(5-1) Seoul(5-1) Shanghai(0-6) = 15-10
Houston(5-2)'s : Boston(3-3) London(5-1) Seoul(5-1) = 13-5
LAV(5-2)'s : Boston(3-3) Seoul(5-1) Shanghai(0-6) = 8-10
nyxl remains the easiest opponent
scarlet spear
i imagine NYXL will end up #1 on stage1
subtle fable
Houston and LAV have a difference of London and Shanghai.
Houston is good at map score right now and they will be 3rd after seoul vs london. but unless something important comes up, eventually LAV will win on the rankings. boston matches of both teams could be most important matches.
so i believe loser of Seoul vs London and LAV will compete for third place on stage 1 now.
vestal mortar
Twitter
vestal mortar
HA
balmy wolf
J 
KE
torpid charm
Hotba is in our starting lineup today, I'm hoping everyone doesn't shit on him like they did yesterday
tawny sigil
wtf did i miss... did they have a different schedule for today
oh nvm
stupid youtube channel uploading their shit a week later
tacit aspen
Why are the vods of the Houston match still not up except for game 4?
tawny sigil
yeah watch the 6 twitch vod instead, that's my gotto everytime
4:20
40 more minutes
idle beacon
hey admins / mods .. what channel do i have to go to ask about hardware stuff for overwatch?
tawny sigil
not this one
narrow dew
general
idle beacon
ok
idle beacon
lets see if some know stuff about hw
narrow dew
so you might get more attention
young sonnet
SUp
opaque owl
limber pine
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sullen berry
now, we all know why we're here today
magic zinc
yes
sullen berry
for that sweet fuel redemption
magic zinc
Mickie's smile ofc
sullen berry
though seriously, excelsior/dragons will be telling
young sonnet
sullen berry
if NYXL drop their guard or even come close to giving dragons a round away
young sonnet
I will nut if dragons wins.
sullen berry
so many people would have edged at the thought of dragons, who exhaused themselved to the 5th map
kindred brook
Watching Dallas lose to Philly is gonna be depressing
sullen berry
winning with a game plan for Lijiang
disappointed they never thought to have come so far that they needed to practice for another control point
how many times have fusion been put into a 5-map series? I'm sure it's more than shanghai (only 1 so far)
but even that alone fusion had the upper hand coming into it
finite cedar
Vaillant response to the teaser from the Mayhem: https://twitter.com/LAValiant/status/959147843528278017
magic zinc
Cant look past Philly for this one tbh, 3-1 I reckon
scarlet spear
gotta see how philly is playing
if they perform like yesterday, its gonna be a y i k e s
young sonnet
Was it bad?
scarlet spear
for philly standarts yes
young sonnet
Damn
scarlet spear
fragi was feeding pretty hard
winstonslab rated them from 500-900 for the maps i think
young sonnet
Thought him feeding was standard
scarlet spear
first map they did pretty decent, after valiant dominated them pretty hard
young sonnet
Perhaps they trained super hard for Fuel instead...
scarlet spear
CARRYHOOK BACK โค
vestal mortar
Woo!
young sonnet
More interested in dynasty spitfire tonight which i can't watch because fuck EU right ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vestal mortar
D'awww
slim summit
what is this bread fork meme
scarlet spear
no fuckin clue
young sonnet
Perhaps it's an ARG
slim summit
err
scarlet spear
YES
slim summit
not mercy, mccree
but probably also mercy
i just meant mccree
o wait they're on defense
๐คท
magic zinc
We're seeing more Doomfist than we expected -- does that mean his bugs are mostly network based and thus dont occur on LAN/During OWL?
uncut moon
McFist
narrow dew
dallas throwing already
young sonnet
Mcfist 
vestal mortar
๐ McFist ๐
narrow dew
he's sick
magic zinc
Tara did you change your name :eyes:
onyx basin
where the hell is poko wtf is going on ๐ฆ
and fragi dies instantly
why u do thios to me
vestal mortar
I did!
magic zinc
Meanwhile I'm scared to change my /r/cow flair from Dallas to Seoul cus I'll get called out 
scarlet spear
like anybody gives a fuck ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
magic zinc
Fair
azure harbor
I care
magic zinc
oh no
vestal mortar
I would put Seoul and Houston in my name if they would fit :C
azure harbor
no longer meme team?
magic zinc
Houston Dynasty easy peasy
vestal mortar
Maybe I will for stage 2 then
azure harbor
ult
runic stag
Hard to say who I'm rooting for here. I like Philly but I don't want to see Dallas get rolled...
azure harbor
Effect
onyx basin
can't wait for people to use this game as an excuse to play doomfist in comp
vestal mortar
Oh man the Dallas hype in the crowd is so good
azure harbor
I watch MoonMoon, I don't need excuses to use doomfist
runic stag
Twitch chat c9 spam actually triggers me so much
onyx basin
twitch chat is vv smort
young sonnet
I mean. I wouldn't look at twitch chat for more than half a second
Someone needs to make a plugin that replaces twitchchat with a streamlined discord
uncut moon
taimou pissed
azure harbor
frozen moat
lol, the facepalm
serene tendon
carpe btfo
azure harbor
young sonnet
WTF
vestal mortar
Welp!
uncut moon
fusion full hold lessgo
young sonnet
how can you not win these fights
sinful fox
dont know why they are forcing the doom into tracer pharah
azure harbor
Dallas
frozen moat
Actually getting killed by a Doomfist ult...
azure harbor
meme fuel
north topaz
question, what does running doomfist actually provide?
young sonnet
Provides effect memes
novel meadow
Effect the classic mm thrower
north topaz
lol
rustic perch
wrecking tanks, dive, but he's just too inconsistent
azure harbor
fast games, nice
uncut moon
onyx basin
mmaybe doomfist vs hotba evens out the chances
frozen moat
Dis gud
magic zinc
Damn I thought Dallas would at least cap that
supple prism
come one Fusion!
sinful fox
@onyx basin
novel meadow
Can Hotba speak English?
sinful fox
yea
torpid charm
PROUD OF MY BOYS that was a beautiful hold
serene tendon
underdog dallas is so fun to root for, now that they're not overhyped
onyx basin
from what i've hear he is taking lessons
sinful fox
its prob a little worse than carpe
serene tendon
sullen berry
Effect is late on the doomfist hype train
azure harbor
Well I mean doomfist not that bad against slow enemies, he deals really good damage. But yea - mercy, pharah, dva not slow heroes at all
runic stag
Yeah effect don't switch off doom fist maybe get an orisa and a hanzo and this comp will be ๐
feral wing
Proud of mah boi shadowburn
sinful fox
tracer/pharah are arguably the best dps against doomfist
but they forced it for some reason
civic marsh
hi pls report doom for throwing
magic zinc
I'm wondering why he didnt switch to Tracer after he ulted tbh
sinful fox
its just like LA Glads vs LA Valiant when they forced asher on the last 3 maps and got reverse sweeped insteard of playing surefour
frozen moat
Doomfist isn't as bad as he usually is, on that point
feral wing
magic zinc
He's not very good on attack cus there is no high ground
frozen moat
Still though, Doomfist LUL
feral wing
sinful fox
i understand playing doom if they are running soldier or cree or junk or really any other 200hp dps
but tracer is so good against doom lol
hearty wasp
Why the df
onyx basin
maybe they relied on taimou a bit too much
novel meadow
DF are the worst at swapping
novel meadow
Obvs effect hasn't been watching Chipsa
feral wing
The twitch chat is cancer
short vault
wtf is anakShakal
hearty wasp
@novel meadow very true. Players need to recognize they arebt the best at everything.
dense jasper
Twitch chat is the worst.
short vault
can someone explain
feral wing
They dont even realize that shadowburn was on genji for only like a minute or two
hearty wasp
Someone lemme know when it goes on
young sonnet
Does shadowburn ever smile
short vault
no
dense jasper
Why do people enjoy posting emojis just to see them fly off the page, replaced by more emojis?
novel meadow
Is shadowburn ruski?
uncut moon
shadowburn is completely emotionless
onyx basin
russian people don't smile
young sonnet
Literally a terminator
novel meadow
Smiling is a sign of weakness
vestal mortar
There's that photo of him smiling at Carpe
sinful fox
shadowburn is like the russian skadoodle of overwatch
uncut moon
^ photoshopped
young sonnet
wtf
civic marsh
hyperlul
scarlet spear
onyx basin
wonderful
uncut moon
terrible
scarlet spear
fuel had a decent defense, philly had a better defense
civic marsh
decent defence trash offence
serene tendon
^
polar pier
Aaaaah, everything is as it should be.
azure harbor
@polar pier didn't get even the first point
wintry kraken
they decided to run doomfist versus pharah
scarlet spear
can you not spam your shitty spotify link?
wintry kraken
that is how it went ๐
polar pier
I mean.
uncut moon
Berat is clearly a healslut, r/healslut isn't here
polar pier
According to reddit, Doomfist counters Pharah.
civic marsh
thonking
scarlet spear
azure harbor
reddit
vestal mortar
deft valley
no one on reddit thinks that
azure harbor
deft valley
but har har
novel meadow
"I spat in that earlier"
polar pier
@deft valley Don't be silly. I've seen the vids.
serene tendon
reminder shanghai almost reverse sweeped philly
polar pier
Doomfist counters Pharah so long as you have ult, absolute mechanical mastery of Doomfist, and are mildly insane.
onyx basin
hotba with his signature move
young sonnet
"That cup has plutonium in it"
azure harbor
marsh pumice
dallas losing 1-0? omg
runic stag
Yo are Dallas actually cheesing Philly right now
scarlet spear
how did dallas lose that point? D:
young sonnet
Cause it's dallas... durrr
marsh pumice
yeh
polar pier
Taimou trying to hard carry his team.
frozen moat
Man I can't wait for stage 2.. No more Mercy cancer
serene tendon
because valk
polar pier
Also no Seagull?
marsh pumice
no idea how they lost that point but they need to focus or they will lose more
scarlet spear
guess they got cocky and didnt expect the valkyr
young sonnet
What in the fuck was that ult seriously
idle beacon
how come fusion won fistr map only with 1-0 ?
did fusion get the first point, and fuel didn't got it?
young sonnet
Cause dallas were throwing with doomfist
onyx basin
fusion did a full hold
azure harbor
polar pier
TEAM KILL
young sonnet
Jesus christ
uncut moon
polar pier
re
onyx basin
lol
sinful fox
platchat LULing at shadowburn for no blade kills... do people at that rank honestly not understand that you use it to force support ults?
idle beacon
oh
frozen moat
"They didn't go full retard"
idle beacon
and WHAT IS UP WITH POKI?????
polar pier
@sinful fox It's Twitch chat.
idle beacon
POKO*
polar pier
Unless you get a team kill with your Dragonblade it's considered shit.
narrow dew
dont take twitch chat unironically
young sonnet
Expecting sense and rationality from twitch chat
polar pier
Also you need to land only headshots as Widowmaker.
sinful fox
platchat isnt even platchat
idle beacon
has poko been suspended or is he sick?
uncut moon
Ult economy is something that people in diamond + only understand
serene tendon
dallas just needs to warm up monkaS
azure harbor
they don't showing their best strats, they keep them for season 2
deft valley
how's that high horse lmao
onyx basin
people in diamond don't understand ult economy ๐
idle beacon
guys????
polar pier
Slow Start is why Regigigas isn't meta.
idle beacon
where is poko?
narrow dew
sick
scarlet spear
not in the game
polar pier
I don't think Dallas should be replicating that.
deft valley
no one knows
polar pier
He's ded
deft valley
he's not suspended
dense jasper
Wtdf? 
onyx basin
actually like 7th
azure harbor
scarlet spear
effect carry 
slim summit
why didn't hotba heal 
dense jasper
Good time!
balmy wolf
yo did the mercy nerf hit owl too?
deft valley
no
dense jasper
No
balmy wolf
when does it drop on owl
deft valley
this is the 12000th time someone asked
narrow dew
stage 2
deft valley
stage 2
balmy wolf
ohbcool
azure harbor
old Mercy
balmy wolf
Sometimes u scare me
wintry kraken
2CP
scarlet spear
fuckin 2 CP
sinful fox
boombox kills the mercy
slim summit
yas
civic marsh
how the fuck they lose that fight
slim summit
ikr lol
sinful fox
their mercy got 5dinked by boombox
serene tendon
2cp
slim summit
50 kills
sinful fox
thats the only reason they lost
slim summit
1 tick
young sonnet
๐ i ๐ love ๐ this ๐ gamemode ๐
scarlet spear
taimou popping off tho
taimou has been shutting down SDB and carpe this game so far
frozen moat
NA uly
polar pier
Taimou really trying to carry Dallas into this win.
uncut moon
compared to poko
sinful fox
hotba is good at dva wut
deft valley
lol neptuno with the kill
faint trout
the cam has been on widow for like 5 min now lol
sinful fox
people talking shit about hotba rofl
slim summit
baby dva vs mercy
azure harbor
Useless Widow
scarlet spear
cant wait for mercy to be gone in stage 2
onyx basin
poko was more flashier that why people dumnping on hotba
idle beacon
did carpe just mock effect? ๐
uncut moon
df gonna start to tilt now
azure harbor
4-0
sinful fox
people with no true understanding of the game mocking one of the better dva players in the league
slim summit
poko was getting an avg of like 2 kills on self destruct
polar pier
Reapaaaah
sinful fox
he plays more of a support role while poko plays more of a fragging role
thats why people shit on him
but in actual practice hotba is very good just for a different playstyle
ppl are just dumb
onyx basin
yeah they just need to iron out comms and adjust to different playstyles and they will be sick
polar pier
le shutdown
serene tendon
yay
azure harbor
frozen moat
That snipe
serene tendon
young sonnet
MAH DUDE
slim summit
they just never were able to answer to that widow
polar pier
Taimou like "No, sit down."
slim summit
when they camped highground with winston dva genji they died way out of position
uncut moon
hoepfully fusion full holds point A
wintry kraken
now dallas only needs to do a full hold... HAHAHAH, who am i kidding
scarlet spear
great shots from taimou
frozen moat
Fusion were pretty bad there
novel meadow
\ _ Shadowburn
dense jasper
Presses H vigorously at the 2 min mark
onyx basin
oh hi mark
wintry kraken
how did effect get there ?
polar pier
Deadfist
sinful fox
trying to not die so he could touch point
slim summit
rocket punch into the handrail
sinful fox
cuz they only had 18 secs
onyx basin
go go meme strats
serene tendon
chip stop fucking dying
scarlet spear
mercy D:
serene tendon
they got a tick PogChamp
wintry kraken
1 tick is not full hold !
sinful fox
really feel like they are forcing this doomfist way too hard
polar pier
Couldn't follow through.
polar pier
If someone from Dallas gets picked then the DF cheese doesn't matter.
uncut moon
zen and mercy
polar pier
DOOMFIST defense.
dusk garden
Effect throwing y
onyx basin
oh man reddit will use this to start another doomfist crusade to buff him pls no
polar pier
aaaaa
idle beacon
why buffin him?
polar pier
That would have been a sick stick.
idle beacon
df is already pretty strong
onyx basin
inb4 if effect cannot make df work you know the hero is broken hurr durr buff df
slim summit
LUL
idle beacon
a good df can be such a pain in the ass
wintry kraken
chips hunted down shadow ๐
slim summit
GOTEM
scarlet spear
SDB glocked down
uncut moon
ez
polar pier
RIP
azure harbor
dusk garden
GG
narrow dew
effect trolling
onyx basin
this is exactly why i dread the day they decide to "fix" him
slim summit
shadowburn gets killed by mercy with blade philly wins anyway
polar pier
Battle Mercy got too overzealous.
wooden hull
torpid charm
we're doing a bit better today :PhiliFusion:
white dock
what happens if dallas lose this? do they not qualify for playoffs or something
uncut moon
fuel thinks this is the pre season
idle beacon
@torpid charm ye .. what was wrong yday? i've missed the val vs philli match .. 4-0 whoopin .. was fusion so bad?
onyx basin
well fusion is clearly superior to combustion what did you expect
uncut moon
the fight for 4th place is fusion, uprising and outlaws
balmy wolf
I thought dallas would be stronger with seagull and all that
polar pier
Everyone did.
dense jasper
Playoffs?! talking about playoffs?!
polar pier
Dallas is just an anomaly, really.
uncut moon
the koreans are way ahead and obviously will be top 3
dense jasper
Lol
polar pier
There's so much talent on Dallas and yet somehow there's no fucking synergy.
deft valley
uprising isn't fighting for 4th wut
polar pier
Dallas only seems to pull out wins when they just mechanically outplay.
deft valley
it's valiant
polar pier
Their cohesion is... questionable.
idle beacon
@balmy wolf it seems to me more and more that fuel are testing strats. they are actually good / strong. but yea .. playing unusual styles .. which seem not to be outtested well enough
torpid charm
@winston#0162 many many many mistakes were made
dense jasper
It's really hard to be a Dallas Fuel fan when Seagull isn't up there.
polar pier
I mean "testing strats" makes sense if you're 3-0 and the next game is just for points.
idle beacon
@polar pier just wrote above what i think dallas is doing
vagrant jacinth
Haha
polar pier
Unless they don't mind being the laughingstock of OWL then they need to just do something standard.
idle beacon
@upper patrol didn't eNVy won the first APEX tournament?
narrow dew
they should practice meme comps in scrims
polar pier
They're not mechanically outclassed. They can easily be on, like, 4th or whatever if they just did something fucking standard and communicated better.
novel meadow
But....but... envy won an apex...
polar pier
This is just kinda disappointing at best and insulting at worst to people who were Envy fans.
young sonnet
Oh boi i can't wait for the dallas reverse sweep
dense jasper
It's fine as long as the team has friendly synergy. I'd take being a fan of a losing team over a try-hard team any day.
idle beacon
@polar pier trust me, dear .. fuel will be v/ strong in season2 .. they play unusual .. and they'll get it together in season2
polar pier
I'll believe they get it together when they get it together.