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pearl stratus
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Not making any noise.

harsh basin
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gotta get those skinz

cold igloo
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Motorboat in there???

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lmao

harsh basin
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Tracer | Dragonlore

sinful heron
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LAV just slowly walked up main street, and Fusion just could not regroup to stop them, and then they just trickled onto the point

slim summit
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advanced bubble tactic

harsh basin
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Yo did they just walk up slowly, and take the point?

slim summit
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and the mercy jumped

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now these guys know how to not make it as easy as possible to get your mercy killed

dusk garden
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ENVY FRAGGING OUT

full lion
dusk garden
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wtf is this camera

sinful heron
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BOOM

slim summit
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riptire is stupid

full lion
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yes

harsh basin
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^

sinful heron
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Just kill it mercypls

slim summit
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is riptire the best ult now that mercy is nerf?

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probably

scarlet spear
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cant wait for next stage for the moth to be gone

harsh basin
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The age of quad tank lucio + moira? 🤔

slim summit
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on the anniversary of triple tank

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introducing the new meta: quad tank

sinful heron
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NEPTUNO PLZ

scarlet spear
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philly is looking really sloppy atm

sinful heron
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Tactical death from Agilities, planted total mayhem perfectly

harsh basin
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Same for Unkoe

sinful heron
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All planned pogchimp

harsh basin
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Unkoe and Agilities died for this win

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🇫

final river
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dva bullying

sinful heron
short vault
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ok envy just kills 10

dusk garden
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envy fragging out again

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damn

slim summit
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3 more weeks of this mercy nonsense

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then we're free

full lion
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as a new dva main envy is making me very happy right now

final river
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Do the teams have speciall access so they can srim on the old patch?

short vault
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F

sinful heron
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BOOMBOX

harsh basin
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3 weeks is too long 😦

velvet scarab
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yes @final river

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they are on the tournament client

final river
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intereting, thnx

sinful heron
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1:10 vs 4:40, winnable?

harsh basin
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Anything is possible

slim summit
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miracles happen

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see: last map

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5 minute hold at 10 meters x d

sinful heron
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Good point

harsh basin
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If Shanghai Dragons can take a map from Seoul, anything is possible

sinful heron
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But Philly don't look like holding for 4:40

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Yeah

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Fuck it, I'm in, Let's go Fusion.

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HE JUST GOT TRANS

harsh basin
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400 IQ PULSE BOMB

deft valley
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that bomb is some advanced shit

harsh basin
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110% calculated

sinful heron
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THEY MIGHT BE DOING IT

scarlet spear
sinful heron
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WOW

uncut moon
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omg

deft valley
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C A R R I E D

sinful heron
true vigil
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WOW

harsh basin
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holy moly

uncut moon
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the plays

sinful heron
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Shadowburn played out of his mind

deft valley
uncut moon
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INSANE

harsh basin
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Shadowburn is gonna have back problems after all this carry

pearl cedar
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that call to use the valk for point A

sinful heron
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2 Dragonblades in like, 3mins?

pearl cedar
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was a throw imo

slim summit
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i bet shadowburn is like

deft valley
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I want a shadowburn backpack

slim summit
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so frustrated

scarlet spear
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yeah

rustic perch
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what i'm wondering is, did shadowburn ever talk?

slim summit
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his team lives & dies by his blades

pearl cedar
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they shoulda just saved the valk

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and won the fight on point B

scarlet spear
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verbos Valk was dumb as fuck

deft valley
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it'll carry anything

pearl cedar
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i think it was a team call

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which is why i think it was a stupid team call

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LOL

sinful heron
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Verbo's valk was sub-par

rustic perch
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okay i take back what i said, he's talking right now

scarlet spear
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probably only says "mada mada"

deft valley
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when russian cold meets nippon steel you're in big trouble boy

solar wharf
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I fucking hate Twitch’s video player, it’s so choppy for me

deft valley
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it's the stream in general

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mlg stream on site had the same problem

harsh basin
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Watch on MLG

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🤔

solar wharf
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I’m watching on my Ps4, Twitch is easier

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Otherwise I have to go into the web browser and everything

rustic perch
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neptuno had valk all the time

sinful heron
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3mins point B MonkaS

rustic perch
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guess they gave the point away on purpose

balmy wolf
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Fragi = Winghaven

rustic perch
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"WIDOW SWITCH" > fine residentsleeper

harsh basin
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welp

scarlet spear
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F

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draw inc? GWfroggyMonkaThink

slim summit
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prays for the draw gods

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they don't need to cap point a

sinful heron
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Very drawable

rustic perch
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"can we just draw? we had a thrower"

slim summit
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they need just one tick

tawny sigil
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draw = no tie breaker

slim summit
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do they get a tie breaker if they draw twice?

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though i know that can't really happen

deft valley
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yea

slim summit
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anymore

sinful heron
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Yeah they do

deft valley
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they can't draw after this tho

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the last 2 maps are koth and escort

faint trout
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^

sinful heron
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I mean technically it's possible but you need to do a massive C9 and both get stopped at the same point it's possible just VERY unlikely

deft valley
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yeah it's basically not happening

sinful heron
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Yeah, basically

faint trout
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rip

sinful heron
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If it did though it'd be pretty impressive

faint trout
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this is it

sinful heron
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That's game

slim summit
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gg ez

deft valley
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that rez

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that's cause they are

slim summit
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R E V E R S E S W E E P E E W S E S E R E V E R

full lion
sinful heron
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Does this spell consistency problems for Fusion?

deft jetty
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did owl not get nerfs?

harsh basin
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Nope

true vigil
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nope\

sinful heron
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OWL is playing on the OLD PATCH

harsh basin
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Next stage

deft jetty
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ok thanks

harsh basin
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so 2-3 more weeks of this nonsense

sinful heron
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Didn't Fusion beat NYXL?

faint trout
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valiant is the best western team I will fight you over it LAValiant

rustic perch
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isnt this the last week of stage 1?

harsh basin
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Valiant 4 lyfe

wooden hull
deft valley
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is "winning 3-2 against both NY and Shanghai" not "consistency problems" enough for you?

harsh basin
balmy wolf
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FUSION

rustic perch
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next stage starts at feb20 or something

uncut moon
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mods really need to pin the fact this is a tournament client on old patch till stage

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2

sinful heron
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LOL @deft valley good point

slim summit
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nobody reads pins anyway

unborn basalt
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cmon fusion

rustic perch
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oh nvm, there's also week5

pearl stratus
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I think Envy is the sleeper carry for LAV.

slim summit
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it's harder to carry & get carried in the mercy meta

faint trout
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their logo looks like mercy tho so that kinda sucks I'm switching to fusion PhiliFusion

slim summit
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and since fusion's strat is "have shadowburn kill everyone"

true vigil
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7 kills lmao

deft jetty
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are they gonna get the nerf this season or not?

slim summit
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they'll do better in stage 2

deft valley
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stage 2

sinful heron
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Reverse sweep inc

deft valley
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is part of this season

sinful heron
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Calling it now

pearl stratus
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Such an aggressive deadly Dva.

harsh basin
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Philly is doing really well overall though

deft jetty
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oh stage 2

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ok thanks

harsh basin
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4:2

unborn basalt
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Lets go philly!

sinful heron
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Stage 2 is going to be hype af

harsh basin
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for not even playing in the preseason

rustic perch
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stage 2 starts in like 20 days

molten skiff
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Whats happenin

uncut moon
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poko is a better dva imo

deft valley
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phily is choking

deft jetty
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gonna be nice to see different comps in stage 2

gusty shoal
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XQC Comes back in stage 2 right?

unborn basalt
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shadowburn gotta 1v11 carry

faint trout
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dallas will really shine in stage 2 I think

harsh basin
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Different maps too

sinful heron
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#BringBackRein

unborn basalt
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@gusty shoal yes but depends on Dallas

balmy wolf
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Fusion will reverse sweep

harsh basin
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New team comps, new maps

deft valley
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loldallas

harsh basin
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Dallas meme

pearl stratus
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Its the maps I care more about.

sinful heron
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Something something Dallas are bad something something

rustic perch
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i mean, its true, having mercy in every match is boring, but honestly... dva, monkey, tracer, genji and zen are also in almost every match, and that's ALSO kinda boring

unborn basalt
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i just dont wanna see a full korean team to win NotLikeSoldier

balmy wolf
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Why not?

pearl stratus
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I think no Mercy meta is going to slow the game down a lot because of picks not being able to be easily reset.

faint trout
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thats riceist

deft jetty
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it's gonna speed it up

sinful heron
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^

gusty shoal
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People who arnt Korean but support Dynasty are just scared of loss xD

harsh basin
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Yeah, mercy makes fights last forever

balmy wolf
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Gonna be more exciting because individual plays will be more valuable

harsh basin
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no mercy = picks actually do things

balmy wolf
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^

pearl stratus
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It makes team fights last forever, I agree.

slim summit
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no mercy = OWL is actually fun to watch

rustic perch
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what? i'm not korean and i support dynasty because i knew them earlier from OGN tournaments as Lunatic Hai already and i liked them, so that makes me scared? Cool

dusk garden
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no mercy = the game is fun

pearl stratus
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But think about every time a team loses a support or something, and they wait for the respawn.

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Widow is going to be kind of funny in that regard now.

faint trout
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The only thing I will miss about mercy is that those boring widdow picks at the start of the match will actually matter now

slim summit
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i'm surprised there's been no gentleman's agreements to just not play mercy

pearl stratus
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We'll get a lot of 'Well they were moving, now we're weaiting for another 15 seconds" over and over.

dusk garden
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they want to win

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lol

bleak ocean
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I think mercy’s just too essential for that

deft valley
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why isn't there a gentleman's agreement in the NFL to not use the forward pass

dusk garden
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even if they did make an agreement blizz would find a way to force mercy into the game

pearl stratus
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One team would just break the agreement.

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Because fuck your agreement.

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I'm winning the map.

deft valley
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or just not agree in the first place lmao

sinful heron
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^

slim summit
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doubt it

deft valley
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because it's stupid

slim summit
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not all people are scumbags

pearl stratus
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"Lets handicap ourselves guys!"

bleak ocean
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Now, if they wanna make a no-Moira agreement...

pearl stratus
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"Special olympics!"

deft valley
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making the game fun to watch isn't the teams' responsibility

slim summit
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and there are teams for whom both would feel their odds of winning would be improved without mercy

deft valley
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it's Blizzard's

sinful heron
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As SOON as money is involved, all sense of "honor" goes out the window, you gotta do whatever you can to win, because if you lose you get less money.

slim summit
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plus none of the players actually want to be playing mercy anyway

deft valley
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the fuck does moira have to do with anything lol

pearl stratus
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There basically already is a no moira agreement

bleak ocean
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Exactly

pearl stratus
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It's called "Every map but Lunar Colony"

slim summit
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a team isn't losing because both teams didn't play mercy

deft valley
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oh shit sour patch kids alert

pearl stratus
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"Sorry we lost guys. But a bunch of people were whining about mercy, so we decided not to play her."

slim summit
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lol

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that's fake tho

pearl stratus
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I'm worried about Pine.

slim summit
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no team is going to lose because both teams decide to not play mercy

pearl stratus
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Because with Mercy nerf I don't think he'll like.

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Ever play now.

sinful heron
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And then "Sorry I lost my job <insert landlord here> but my team thought I should stick to this honourable agreement people thought we should do"

slim summit
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i think there are many that do

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i think i said that

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shock is the most obvious example

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sure

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but there are teams that could face off where both would believe it improves their odds

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gifted themselves a convenient meta

dusk garden
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wtf is that guy in the background doing

slim summit
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and lost anyway

bleak ocean
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There’s been games in the owl where a team without mercy won against a team with mercy, hasn’t there?

sinful heron
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God I can't wait for Mercy nerfs to hit OWL

slim summit
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it's not as if both playing mercy is going to guarantee both teams will win

pearl stratus
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It's for certian points.

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Attacking on Point A Lunar Colony is usually no mercy.

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But once you take point A, you swap to Mercy.

dusk garden
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y

pearl stratus
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Unless you can steamroll.

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Also, someone said Shadowburn best Genji. I actually don't think he's the overall best, but I think he's the overall most consistent. Which makes him the best. If that makes sense.

true vigil
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nope

pearl stratus
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He does, but I mean that he doesn't have lows either.

harsh basin
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the number of players he has to carry is pretty high at least kek

sinful heron
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GOD COACH, 50% of your team just isn't even paying any attention to you, command some respect PLEASE.

pearl stratus
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Mostly just Fragi, lol

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Fragi is the biggest issue with Fusion.

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He's just not a good Winston.

dusk garden
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that was a really motivational speech

pearl stratus
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But I mean he used to be a Rein main, and hasn't adjusted to Monkey at all.

harsh basin
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I miss rein

sinful heron
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I also miss Rein

deft valley
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I don't

dusk garden
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i miss lucio

deft valley
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shield wars were lame

slim summit
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i hate half time

sinful heron
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FOR YOU

true vigil
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rein best tank

pearl stratus
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He doesn't really have that many great maps in Stage 2 either.

sinful heron
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Sheild wars for the Reins was the BEST TIME EVER.

faint trout
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yeah but smashing people with that hammer just felt good man

pearl stratus
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So I don't see us seeing more of him.

deft valley
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king's is pretty much his best tho

harsh basin
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I want to see more Lucio

sinful heron
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Playing those mind games, tryna sneak in a cheeky Fire Strike when you can

dusk garden
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lucio

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pls

harsh basin
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totally not biased as a lucio main

bleak ocean
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Think they’ll bring in blizz world by the end of the season?

pearl stratus
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No.

deft valley
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yes

pearl stratus
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They're an e-sport.

true vigil
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stage 3

deft valley
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did they?

pearl stratus
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No changes during mid-season.

scarlet spear
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they said

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stage 3

deft valley
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not the comp season

dusk garden
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stage 3 for blizz world

pearl stratus
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Only changes during stages.

deft valley
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stage 4 is part of this season

true vigil
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yeah

uncut moon
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Blizz world is cool looking but I don't want to see it in e-sports

true vigil
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it is going to be on stage 3

pearl stratus
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I keep thinking of seasons as stages.

true vigil
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in season 1

deft valley
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so the answer to "will it be this season"

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is yes

dusk garden
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they can't nerf junkrat because jake isnt gonna be as useful

balmy wolf
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lol

sinful heron
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I think Blizz world is a pretty good map, I'm sorry if I've offended you.

pearl stratus
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It's not a bad map, but it is still super messed up.

balmy wolf
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Yeah they're really putting Jake in the spotlight every chance they get

dusk garden
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blizz world is a decent map but its shit

pearl stratus
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It's because he's the Koreans favorite westerner too.

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So its double publicity.

faint trout
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jlulke

balmy wolf
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Why though?

pearl stratus
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Because of his game sense and mental play

dusk garden
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but he plays junkrat

uncut moon
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Stage 2 kings row we are gonna see alot more zarya

dusk garden
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fucking junkrat

pearl stratus
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So do half the people in OWL.

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On the maps that are needed for it.

dusk garden
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CLUG CLUG CLUG FIRE IN THE HOLE NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CLUG CLUG CLUG

slim summit
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jake was also the best foreigner in world cup too

pearl stratus
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Seagull played more Junkrat than Jake did last week.

true vigil
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he plays a mean soldier too but junk is better right now

slim summit
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sinatraa overrated

pearl stratus
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Junkgull was real.

true vigil
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uhhhh

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lol

dusk garden
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jake chews caffeine gum

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DansGame

pearl stratus
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Jake, mentally, is ridiculously strong. Even when he plays things he's not great on he always has well timed, smart ults. Which is why I think Koreans like him.

plucky sun
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oh yeah so how does this format work? why do teams play the 4th game when the series is already 3-0?

pearl stratus
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Because maps count towards tiebreakers.

deft valley
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because map score is the tiebreaker

true vigil
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tiebreakers

dusk garden
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for no reason at all

plucky sun
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ah k

dusk garden
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its fucking dumb

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because some teams are gonna play more maps than others with tiebreakers

faint trout
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how many stages in a season btw?

dusk garden
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4

deft valley
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4

dusk garden
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5 weeks each

rustic perch
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5 weeks = 1 stage, 4 stages = 1 season

faint trout
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cool ty

true vigil
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40 games

dusk garden
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1 season = ?

slim summit
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like 7 months

true vigil
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40 games

slim summit
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probably just 1 season per yer?

rustic perch
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0.x owl tournaments KappaPride

devout raft
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verbo locking sym

deft valley
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there's also playoffs at the end of season

devout raft
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my hopes

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my dreams

sinful heron
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Nice conc

true vigil
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40 games plus playoffs

plucky sun
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anyone know how the teams are managed? i think it's crazy that they only play in socal. do they actually fly teams in and out so often?

devout raft
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everyone in socal s1

deft valley
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no they live in LA

true vigil
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they live in LA

devout raft
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teams should have local presence s2

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what that will mean remains to be seen

plucky sun
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so every team

faint trout
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is this verbo's first time on stage?

plucky sun
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is in LA

dusk garden
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yes

plucky sun
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like new york, seoul, etc?

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wtf

deft valley
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yes

dusk garden
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yes

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yaes

plucky sun
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am i the only who thinks that's dumb?

deft valley
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it's basically publicity at this point

dusk garden
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no

true vigil
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so they are all the LA Fusion and the LA Dynasty

deft valley
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no

devout raft
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its to get things going

deft valley
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and you're far from the first to bring it up

devout raft
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dont worry

plucky sun
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never saw other discussion on this

faint trout
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carpe?

dusk garden
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wtf why is soon stinky

deft valley
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what the fuck was that flip lmao

faint trout
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bs dva bomb

civic marsh
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getting off point when soon is in the game

slim summit
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he was knocked into it by primal rage

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that's why it seemed like bs

scarlet spear
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^

slim summit
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perfect timing

gentle shuttle
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@solid spear hey are u guys still here?

slim summit
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wow

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nice shot

dusk garden
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damn

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agil

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ities

deft valley
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jesus christ philly stop breaking the fuck apart

scarlet spear
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they say "sooon" i think

true vigil
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SoOn clutch AF

civic marsh
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stage 2 can't come soon enough

faint trout
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play against soon

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get off point

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lose

whole mulch
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How many times has soon backcapped so far in owl

faint trout
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who wouldve known

whole mulch
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was he the one that backcapped vs fuel?

balmy wolf
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IT'S THE CLASSIC FAZE CHOKE

polar pier
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Stupid question. They're not playing on the recent patch, right?

faint trout
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yup

scarlet spear
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ye

faint trout
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like 4 times at least

whole mulch
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lmao

uncut moon
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slambulance

whole mulch
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soon the backcap god

unborn basalt
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wow

scarlet spear
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he tried a couple times, but that was the 2nd time he was successful i think

faint trout
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he lost both his hands in a tragic accident @upper patrol

deft valley
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carpe throwing report

dusk garden
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foomdist

unborn basalt
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FeelsBadMan

dusk garden
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doomfistmedaddy

solar wharf
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Now these comps are pretty interesting

whole mulch
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Do you guys think OWL players blame their teammates

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when they lose

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imagine sinatraa

deft valley
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i think even if they did the coaches put a stop to that

dusk garden
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sinatraa isnt even playing yet

whole mulch
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Yeah I mean when he plays

dusk garden
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sinatraa starts in stage 3 i think

faint trout
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throwfist

whole mulch
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Effect has blamed his team Roanoke

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I mean, not just on twitter

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but he talks about it to other players

harsh basin
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whoa these teams

dusk garden
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sdb on tracer

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wut

harsh basin
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moira lucio and doomfist

whole mulch
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sinatraa lowkey blamed his supports in the world cup

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so idk what he'll do in owl

solar wharf
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This is fun to watch

true vigil
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ggs

dusk garden
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GG

polar pier
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Wow.

unborn basalt
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FeelsBadMan

solar wharf
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Hooooooly shit

polar pier
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That Graviton Surge was disgusting.

harsh basin
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Thatwas definitely interesting

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GG valiant

solar wharf
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That was beautiful

whole mulch
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Poor fusion

deft valley
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jesus christ philly

solar wharf
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Can’t wait til phase 2 when more games look like this

pearl stratus
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Unkoe being sick didn't hurt LAV as much as I expected ( I think he's sick)

deft valley
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you knowyou're not called Atlanta right

unborn basalt
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philly threw so hard

full lion
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grav best ult in game EZ

harsh basin
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Who knows what stage 2 will be like

solar wharf
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With less Mercy

harsh basin
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maybe the meta will be the same

uncut moon
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more zarya

harsh basin
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just with less mercy

uncut moon
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i think stage 2 maps

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we will see more zarya

balmy wolf
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:c

dusk garden
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no jakerat hopefully

whole mulch
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Do you guys think Fusion beating NYXL was a fluke? Or maybe their playstyle is not effective vs Valiant?

polar pier
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Symmetra?

solid spear
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@⚡+MF_Zoro-⚡#9426 ye

unborn basalt
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baby mei

dusk garden
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more zarya yeet

deft valley
#

they play up and down to their opponent

polar pier
#

Gimme Sym in one game plz. 😦

dusk garden
#

no

deft valley
#

they just have poor consistency

dusk garden
#

no sym

#

pls

#

delete sym

#

blizz

whole mulch
#

Rip

dusk garden
#

pls

deft valley
#

it wasn't "a fluke", they can really do that

faint trout
#

we want nano boost symm

whole mulch
#

I like fusion but they're so inconsistent

unborn basalt
#

play sym just for the meme

polar pier
#

Nano Toaster

idle beacon
#

bla

harsh basin
#

Sym needs to go away

unborn basalt
#

i'll respect any team that plays Sym

deft valley
#

but they can also play down and choke the fuck up

whole mulch
#

I also feel like the tank play on fusion is not there

dusk garden
#

sym needs to be deleted

#

D E L E T E D

polar pier
#

Buffed, got it.

dusk garden
#

stfu

harsh basin
#

her beam is longer than moira now

dusk garden
#

DE E E E E E E LLLL E E E E E E T E E E D

harsh basin
#

thx jeff

deft valley
#

they've got poor teamplay in general

polar pier
#

Her beam now starts at full channel.

unborn basalt
#

sym is easily countered i dont even care about her lol

idle beacon
#

no poko no win

full lion
#

symm is literally a meme hero

whole mulch
#

how many teams ran torb

#

does anyone know

dusk garden
#

boku no poko

solar wharf
#

For real tho I haven’t played Sym for ages but the other day I did and I was really thrown off by how short range it was

unborn basalt
#

i'll still never play sym on my life

whole mulch
#

I play sym :)

dusk garden
#

no

polar pier
#

Seeing Moira literally suck the life out of Mercy high in the sky

#

And then seeing Sym struggle to hit someone an arm's reach away.

#

;-;

unborn basalt
#

i love maining pharah so i can shit on syms smug

dusk garden
#

if you play sym leave now i dont want you in my sights

civic marsh
#

pretty sure dallas ran torb on numbani when they had already lost the series

dusk garden
#

sym is disgusting

whole mulch
#

Yeah dallas ran torb after losing

#

did no one else?

polar pier
#

But if you don't want her in your sights then why run Soldier?

#

:^)

unborn basalt
#

dallas meme team pogchimp

civic marsh
#

not sure @whole mulch

polar pier
#

There's been some Torb play.

#

More than just Dallas.

whole mulch
#

Only torb I remember was taimou

polar pier
#

Can't remember who though.

#

Mostly Numbani.

whole mulch
#

maybe i missed the rest

dusk garden
#

taimou was torb

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on numbani

full lion
#

torb hasnt worked once yet so who cares

whole mulch
#

How'd unkoe get injured

dusk garden
#

unkoe lost his hands confirmed

unborn basalt
#

taimou is a memer

forest raven
#

Unkoe has pink eye

slim summit
#

lol

#

"upper body injury" => pink eye

#

i love that

whole mulch
#

lol

dusk garden
#

might as well say eye injury

whole mulch
#

He stubbed his toe

#

Of course

forest raven
#

Gotta keep it on the down low you know

dusk garden
#

mendo

#

where u

whole mulch
#

Mendo is just a bench player

#

they never use him

#

same with IDDQD

dusk garden
#

being paid 50k+ to be benched

whole mulch
#

yeee

dusk garden
#

wow

scarlet spear
#

mendo has been added to the team as a mascot GWnanaFeelsPepoMan

dusk garden
#

i wanna be them rn

whole mulch
#

tbh if they keep him benched

civic marsh
#

linkzr is better than mendo and jake is good at junkrat so

whole mulch
#

he's probably one of the lower paid players

dusk garden
#

being paid 50k+ per year to be benched

whole mulch
#

yeah linkzr is better than mendo

polar pier
#

Unkoe dieded

whole mulch
#

rip

dusk garden
#

mendo is better than the junkrat one trick tho

whole mulch
#

I'm not a fan of unkoe :c

civic marsh
#

what is this meme that jake is a junk 1 trick

dusk garden
#

he is

whole mulch
#

twitch chat tricky

#

but honestly

#

jake did an amazing job in the world cup

civic marsh
#

fickle people are quick to forget the work he did at the world cup

whole mulch
#

as soldier (and I think genji?)

civic marsh
#

exactly

whole mulch
#

remember the lunar horizon play

#

jake is one of the best soldiers in the league

dusk garden
#

hes still a junk one trick

scarlet spear
#

i wouldnt put him in the best soldiers, hes good, but one of the best

#

eh

dusk garden
#

mechanically mendo is better, game sense wise nah

whole mulch
#

I mean

#

OWL doesn't have many soldier players

slim summit
#

if jake is a junk one trick that makes dhak a mercy one trick

scarlet spear
#

a lot of the support players are some of the best soldier players at the same time

#

like harryhook or RJH

whole mulch
#

Idk much about rjh's soldier

dusk garden
#

dhak is a good lucio tho

#

or am i thinking about another player

whole mulch
#

dhak is the lucio

scarlet spear
#

dhak is definitely a good lucio, sad to see his really non performing mercy tho

#

hes gonna be happy with stage 2

civic marsh
#

rjh just goes soldier to get back to point quicker sometimes. him being an amazing soldier is a meme after there was a clip of him cleaning up like 4 super weak people

whole mulch
#

most of the mercy's are lucio mains

dusk garden
#

sad

#

i wanna see lucio more

pearl cedar
#

clutch shuriken trackinnggg

civic marsh
#

the 2 best soldiers in the world aren't even in OWL

#

LUL

forest raven
#

Well, Dafran not being in OWL is fair

dusk garden
#

akm is a good soldier

#

and he signed with fuel for stage 2

faint trout
#

ye kephrii is the best soldier nice

forest raven
#

And aKm will be in OWL come stage 2

dusk garden
#

kephrii is boosted

civic marsh
#

oh yeah i forgot akm signed for dallas

dusk garden
#

and hes bad

whole mulch
#

akm is an amazing soldier

faint trout
#

20 years of fPs ExPiErIeNce

whole mulch
#

even lunatic hai's coach called akm the best soldier

#

pretty big compliment

civic marsh
#

yeah i was referring to him and dafran

whole mulch
#

So

#

I asked dafran why he isn't in owl

#

his response was

dusk garden
#

dafran wants to stay in streaming

whole mulch
#

he's not good enough at widow and cree

#

and that tracer players need to be able to widow

#

also he said his tracer isn't on the level of people like effect and soon

dusk garden
#

but he has god tracking

#

possibly the best in the game

whole mulch
#

his tracking is great

#

but I guess his gamesense and movement is not as good?

#

I don't know

dusk garden
#

idk

whole mulch
#

he said the teams know he isn't good enough

#

so it must be something like his movement

dusk garden
#

yeah maybe

#

idk

faint trout
#

still think teams kinda shy away from picking up dafran for his history

whole mulch
#

Could be that

tawny sigil
#

they would put same voice over those clip and nobody could tell

whole mulch
#

but his words were because he's not good enough to play widow

#

and that tracer players in owl need to play widow too

#

(like effect, sbb, carpe, etc)

jagged crater
#

why is philly not using poko>?

whole mulch
#

idk

dusk garden
#

no poko no win

whole mulch
#

they picked up hotba

jagged crater
#

not even once

whole mulch
#

because they said he was better?

harsh basin
#

Man, OW comms are weird

whole mulch
#

or something

jagged crater
#

last week's game they didnt use poko either

civic marsh
#

how good is soons widow tho

harsh basin
#

monkey monkey monkey

dusk garden
#

maybe theyre giving poko a break

whole mulch
#

Soon's widow is pretty damn good

dusk garden
#

^

jagged crater
#

why does he need a break

#

r u srs

whole mulch
#

if you watched the game vs

#

I think it was nyxl or seoul cant remember

dusk garden
#

they all need breaks

whole mulch
#

he was holding his ground really well

dusk garden
#

i think maybe pokos nukes are better but hotba may be better gamesense wise

jagged crater
#

this is not like real sports where you need to physically rest

#

mentally i can understand

#

but there's only 2 matches a week, it's not that much

dusk garden
#

seoul gave fleta a break vs shanghai

scarlet spear
#

a lot of the top eSports pros had wrist/hand problems before which made them sit games aswell ?

jagged crater
#

so it's gotta be another reason

scarlet spear
#

olofmeister for example in csgo

jagged crater
#

that's a physical reason

dusk garden
#

unkoe has an upper body injury

jagged crater
#

that's legit

forest raven
#

Unkoe has pink eye

#

Keep up

whole mulch
#

Does he actually

dusk garden
#

wheres the proof

jagged crater
#

is poko sick/injured tho?

whole mulch
#

is that what the "upper body injury" was

forest raven
#

Yep

dusk garden
#

proof

#

i want proof

forest raven
#

Pink eye, real problem for Valiant atm

whole mulch
#

@jagged crater If I recall correctly hotba was brought in to replace poko

slim summit
#

NA push

#

useless

whole mulch
#

Do you have a source lily

slim summit
#

i'm rooting for valiant now after that display

dusk garden
#

gg

jagged crater
#

mercy meta 😠

mighty raptor
#

honestly, Valiant's lineup is so strong

civic marsh
#

hotba channeling poko 🙏

faint trout
#

pray4poko

jagged crater
#

hotba bomb

#

fuck the riptire dude

dusk garden
#

junkrat as a whole is bullshit

#

him and sym need to be deleted

mighty raptor
#

take hanzo before either of them imo

faint trout
#

every hero except winston needs to be deleted tbh

whole mulch
#

Just buff sym

dusk garden
#

no

#

no

#

no

#

no

#

dont vuff sym

faint trout
#

they will

dusk garden
#

no

#

pls

#

no

faint trout
#

jeff said they will

slim summit
#

rofl

dusk garden
#

NO

scarlet spear
#

remove hero limit, buff sym, make speedboost microwaveroom sym meta

mighty raptor
#

Sym is definitely the weakest character in the game

dusk garden
#

WHY

slim summit
#

d..va loses 400 hp instantly

#

"wow dva ate it"

faint trout
#

because she sucks lol

slim summit
#

na casting

civic marsh
#

STUCK appears on the screen

#

"i think he ate that one"

dusk garden
#

lol

faint trout
#

she is a bitch and is op at 1v1 but sucks in general

mighty raptor
#

she can only reliably 1v1 like 5 heroes tho

dusk garden
#

sym needs to be deleted

#

and junk

mighty raptor
#

and only if she gets the jump on them. 😦

dusk garden
#

if you go up against ANYONE who cant aim as sym you auto win

mighty raptor
#

right but someone who can aim can usually beat someone who can't aim

dusk garden
#

plus her hitbox is bullshit

faint trout
#

rip fusion's ranking my doggies

dusk garden
#

BULLSHIT

copper latch
#

hmm looks like i missed a one sided game here.\

dusk garden
#

4-0verwatch

civic marsh
#

4-0verwatch is back

uncut moon
#

04Watch

mighty raptor
#

Fusion needs some work

civic marsh
#

blizzard rigged last weeks games to make OWL look more competitive

mighty raptor
#

Hotba wasn't really blowing me away with those plays

dusk garden
#

delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym delete sym

whole mulch
#

buff sym

mighty raptor
#

just shoot her lol

whole mulch
#

wait til sym kills your mercy then flash fan the hammer her

uncut moon
#

just have custom game soldier 76 headshots only

dusk garden
#

as a lucio main sym is a bitch because she needs no aim to get you no matter where you jump and how fast you go she will always be there to burn you down

whole mulch
#

wot

mighty raptor
#

if she gets in range, boop + speed boost can usually get you away

#

don't try to duel her close range as lucio

whole mulch
#

Boop speed boost jump tap a wall jump again

#

you're away

dusk garden
#

nah man its harder than you think

copper latch
#

They always have said she is a situiational hero. Guess OWL is not the situation for her.

whole mulch
#

but you shouldn't even be near a sym in the first place

civic marsh
#

winning games is not a situation for sym

mighty raptor
#

a bad tracer wins against a pro sym

dusk garden
#

rework sym again and shorten her beam by half

civic marsh
#

if you die to sym as lucio then what are u doing

whole mulch
#

You literally get momentum from tapping a wall

#

just wall boost away

#

boop her

dusk garden
#

no when sym is already locked on

#

she slows you down

whole mulch
#

no

#

she doesnt

dusk garden
#

by the time you jump your hp is already 5

whole mulch
#

she only starts off at 30 dmg per second

dusk garden
#

ONLY

whole mulch
#

and if shes charged up you shouldnt even be near her

#

yes only

#

same amt of dmg as meleeing someone

dusk garden
#

k for some reason i read that as 300

mighty raptor
#

her turrets are her only outplay potential

whole mulch
#

lol

#

im a lucio main

#

sym can't touch me

dusk garden
#

her beam needs to be shortened tho

whole mulch
#

it's pretty short until it locks on

#

it's like 7m

#

less than a mercy beam

dusk garden
#

im a lucio main too even tho i only have like 50 hrs on him and 20+ on some other heroes

whole mulch
#

just don't go near sym

mighty raptor
#

if you're dying to her and you're playing support, just swap to moira. she can't 1v1 a moira

scarlet spear
#

tbh i'd be more scared of the moira succ than symmetras beam

whole mulch
#

I can't even think of a situation where a sym would be close to me as lucio

wooden hull
whole mulch
#

unless she like hides in a corner and waits for me? Idk

#

never really die to syms

dusk garden
#

man i should really ignore trying to improve my aim for a week and improve my game sense and game knowledge

whole mulch
#

just dont go anywhere a sym would be lol

#

speed boost your team into her or something

dusk garden
#

cant do that in qp

whole mulch
#

oh wait this is the esports channel

dusk garden
#

and without a mic in comp

whole mulch
#

why are we having this discussion

dusk garden
#

because sym is shit

mighty raptor
#

just consider sym to be a dangerzone. Like you wouldn't go stand next to an enemy mei or mccree. Just respect her beam and stay out of the way lol

whole mulch
#

I can't wait for mercy nerf in stage 2 OWL

mighty raptor
#

yea. that's gonna be fun

dusk garden
#

soooo dont go on the point?

whole mulch
#

I want to see which teams do better and which do worse

mighty raptor
#

I'm sad that even post nerf we may not see a lot of ana

dusk garden
#

all i want is more lucio

whole mulch
#

Mayhem has 1 win right

slim summit
#

ana was displaced by dive more than mercy

whole mulch
#

vs shanghai

slim summit
#

we might get ana in orisa + hog comps maybe

#

but probably not

mighty raptor
#

the winston buff killed ana really

whole mulch
#

yeah ana died before mercy changes

molten skiff
#

i wonder if mayhem

#

I WONDER IF

dusk garden
#

LOL

molten skiff
#

im watching MLG stream

#

did mayhem go in with naruto run

dusk garden
#

man i love the memes they do in their openings lol

#

yea

tawny sigil
#

alright time to lose bois

molten skiff
#

yeah

#

it is

#

lol

#

i see it now

dusk garden
#

"ALRIGHT WERE GONNA LOSE, LETS NARUTO RUN INTO THE STAGE"

mighty raptor
#

casters bodyshaming the players lol

whole mulch
#

What did they say

#

I closed the stream D:

dusk garden
#

no memes from the glads smh

mighty raptor
#

something about never seeing someone so large doing a naruto run

whole mulch
#

Oh

scarlet spear
#

lmao

whole mulch
#

who were they talking about

scarlet spear
#

that was more about cwoosh being a tall guy

whole mulch
#

lol

mighty raptor
#

is this another 4-0?

whole mulch
#

doesn't moira do a naruto run

mighty raptor
#

ya

dusk garden
#

lol true @whole mulch

whole mulch
#

might be a 4-0 idk

dusk garden
#

alright i only wanted to see the memes time to go do some shit and imma come back later

mighty raptor
#

Who won when it was Valiant vs Gladiators?

lethal bluff
#

Valiant

mighty raptor
#

nice. yea. I should go and watch that game

whole mulch
#

the fusion vs glads game was fun

#

that was the reverse sweep right

tawny sigil
#

droping the dragon ball lore on air

lethal bluff
#

the Valiant Glads one yea was a reverse sweep

tawny sigil
#

florida likes meme, but not enough to play meme comps

#

gonna lose either way so why not

mighty raptor
#

attack torb let's go

tawny sigil
#

oh shit no overtime on first point this time

#

that mccree face on screen

mighty raptor
#

I thought they had that checkpoint for sure

tawny sigil
#

i wonder whats the logic behind still fighting when the round is over in slow mo. most people do it for it for some reason.

mighty raptor
#

SureFour-0

scarlet spear
tawny sigil
#

you know its always the last push that works, just like solo queue

orchid herald
#

Poggers according to owl nyxl has the biggest chance for the stage 1 title matches

tawny sigil
#

ill never understand this

mighty raptor
#

Because when the timer is low, people get serious

#

Bruuuutal

lethal bluff
#

Wow

tawny sigil
#

healer chickened out at the wrong time it feels like

#

seems to be a problem with florida they healer always get double picked

heady idol
#

I love Bischu

tawny sigil
#

this guy needs to not have kids

rare tangle
#

Outlaws Or Dynasty skin for Moira D.Va Or Pharah

mortal radish
#

philadelphia

#

ez clap

#

4-0

mental cliff
#

Are the mercy and junk nerfs in OWL?

gaunt acorn
#

no

#

they are still playing on the previous patch

tawny sigil
#

boom

copper latch
#

do they move to the new patch after stage 1?

tawny sigil
#

yes

copper latch
#

thank goodness

rare tangle
#

which means Moira will be the main healer

#

and games will be decided a lot sooner

copper latch
#

more ana too i bet

mental cliff
#

Pls stay on DF surefour

rare tangle
#

eh when everyone's flying all over the place in dive mode i see it being hard to heal everyone

tawny sigil
#

ana avg heal is lower then zen

#

moira is equal to mercy so i dont see ana being a replacement for mercy

copper latch
#

till she runs out of healing gas

#

will be interesting to see them manage it

tawny sigil
#

no that's avg per 10 minute for high level play

#

mercy and moira are way higher then any other healer

#

followed by lucio, zen/ana

#

11k moira/mercy 7-8k for lucio 6-7k ana/zen

full lion
#

LAME ROBERTS

tawny sigil
#

thats a huge heal difference

wooden hull
bleak ocean
#

Imagine hearing the commentators commentate a game featuring brand new ow players

heady idol
#

I missed the Valiant game, anyone here watch it? Worth a watch?

#

the vods of the match*

wooden hull
#

Good match not the best

tawny sigil
#

there was some clutch in there

#

unlike whats happening right now

heady idol
#

aight, that's probably enough for me to watch after this. ty ty

tawny sigil
#

sour patch kids sponsor Kreygasm

#

i want some now

#

omg that guy was removing his index

#

man this channel is dead when florida plays

pearl stratus
#

Florida is only worth supporting for like the 15 seconds they walk in

tawny sigil
#

that epic music, that's not an overwatch song is it?

#

maybe its from a short

#

commentator turning into my solo queue

spring lintel
#

Mayhem are boosted

tawny sigil
#

they lost with a valk

#

and they used crappy ults to counter

spring lintel
#

Garbage spectator

mighty raptor
#

This is brutal

spring lintel
#

Mercy view wtf

tawny sigil
#

Florida

spring lintel
#

Isn’t this worse than shanghai?

forest raven
#

Linkzr's out for today's game btw

tawny sigil
mighty raptor
#

yea

spring lintel
#

Plot twist, florida is the worst team not shanghai

#

Didn’t expect this tbh

mighty raptor
#

I think Shanghai is slightly under rated

#

slightly

gaunt acorn
covert comet
#

florida is just a meme

tawny sigil
#

freaking smoking that kush during the rest of the week

covert comet
#

shanghai actually tries

full lion
#

shanghai is 100% better than mayhem

covert comet
#

i have to imagine that the owners/investors for florida team are not happy

tawny sigil
#

wow this is... wtf

#

they kept trickling for like 1 minute

torpid charm
#

hello everyone

mighty raptor
#

oi oi

tawny sigil
#

dayyuuummm

torpid charm
#

Very sad about the Fusion loss today. literally the whole Fusion fan base was being toxic af cause we lost

mighty raptor
#

It's DOOMFIST TIME

hidden vault
#

But they won shanghai

spring lintel
#

LOL this copypasta is insane

hidden vault
#

How are they worse off

torpid charm
#

I also though this game would be boring but it's kinda interesting

tawny sigil
#

sounds like a normal sport fan behavior "my lost,,, riot!"

spring lintel
#

Florida GiveEmote take Giveemote my order

torpid charm
#

they were shitting Hotba and we literally @ing Poko like "get subbed in, save us!" twas wild

pearl stratus
#

See. I'm going to miss this without Mercy.

torpid charm
#

I love watching Hydration and Surefour play

pearl stratus
#

Cause Mercy makes McCree go from good to great.

mighty raptor
#

They're such a good duo. such a strong core for the team

pearl stratus
#

Without her he's just kind of niche for pro play

covert comet
#

but for real why wasnt poko in

spring lintel
#

OMG

#

The zen

#

These casters lul

#

The zen blocked the shot

#

9 billion IQ

torpid charm
#

@covert comet Hotba is a good D.va, he's just a more defensive D.va and isn't best when combined with Fragi, by playing him, were trying to improve that duo

tawny sigil
#

here comes the counting glitch again

covert comet
#

seems like something youd try and improve in scrims not on stage

spring lintel
#

Asher boosted

torpid charm
#

yeah, they're trying both but idk it's really just coaches decision

spring lintel
#

He thought he would kill her with a melee

tawny sigil
torpid charm
#

once we get Sado in I'm sure things will be fine

covert comet
#

@spring lintel It was driving me nuts last week when they were playing asher over surefour

torpid charm
#

same

mighty raptor
#

would would you ever do that

spring lintel
#

They need a tracer specialist

covert comet
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you do that when you want to throw a 2 map lead to valiant

spring lintel
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Asher is meh, s4 can play better tracer

covert comet
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well when patch hits owl everyone is going to running quad tank anyways OMEGALUL

torpid charm
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Fusion keeps making way too many micromistakes and our defense is so inconsistent, makes me sad

mighty raptor
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aw then they're going to nerf moira

covert comet
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yup

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@torpid charm imagine the frustration of trying to be a D Fuel fan

mighty raptor
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they did well in their last game iirc

forest raven
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"Danteh liked"

mighty raptor
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haha

torpid charm
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@covert comet SAD

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I'm a Philly girl so I do not fuck with Dallas by default but it is sad ashell to see Dallas doing that poorly

mighty raptor
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they're the meme team

torpid charm
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Dallas and Philly were the two most surprising teams to the casters because with Dallas they were like "omg Dallas is amazing, they're gonna do great!" but they're not. and with Philly it was "we didn't see them in the preseason, they're bad. they don't get enough practice together. and we're not that bad

covert comet
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Dallas just doesnt make sense, they have all this talent and just can't pull themselves together, though ive seen people saying that the mercy meta just really fucks their playstyle. I didnt watch preseason at all so i just took casters word for Philly but i knew that Carpe could carry

wooden hull
rare tangle
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Outlaws gonna go hamlet

torpid charm
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Dallas and Philly are lowkey in the same boat, all that talent but the cohesion is just wtf. I love Fusion but we are one trick kinda and when it's time for us to get off that one trick shit, we fall apart

deft valley
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Philly's strat is "let the dps handle it"

torpid charm
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but Dallas does has so much talent, but the team is literally a bunch of puzzle pieces that aren't from the same puzzle so they won't work or fit

deft valley
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thing is
it might as well, at least in part, be partially due to playing together less

torpid charm
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yeah, that is our biggest disadvantage, all these teams have been together for awhile, basically since they were announced. we got together 3 days prior to the start of the season, we still don't even have all of our people now

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I'm in the Fusion discord and Hung has been hinting towards Eqo finally joining the rest of the crew. once we get our full roster we'll but much I'm sure of it

restive spear
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I feel dumb for not knowing there are 3 more "Stages" after this that last several weeks and we are only on stage 1, so OWL will last several months. Do standings reset after each stage ends tho?

restive spear
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ahh kk I understand now

torpid charm
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I'm pretty sure they do

covert comet
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OWL has to have the most confusing scoring system in all of sports

deft valley
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have you watched american football?

torpid charm
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it makes sense after a while

deft valley
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@restive spear The per-stage W-L records determine who goes to the stage finals

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In stage finals: the 2nd and 3rd best teams play each other

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Then the winner plays the 1st

covert comet
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BUT WHY DO THEY PLAY THE FOURTH MAP

restive spear
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Yeah I figured that but I didnt know they do this same thing 4 more times haha

torpid charm
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like everyone keeps asking about "what happens if teams are tied in the same position?" map scores, that's why we always play 4th map

deft valley
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After 4 stages the total W-L record determines who goes to the playoffs