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#esports-discussion
sinful heron
Silkthread, my man
nova wadi
cwoosh??
sinful heron
He made the right decision
nova wadi
im kind of listening to music so i may have not heard something
sinful heron
Jump on the widow, force her back while your team, who is currently one DPS up, takes the point
wooden hull
Unkoee
atomic canopy
Is next stage gonna have different map rotation?
pearl stratus
Yes, thank god.
nova wadi
Residentsleeper
sinful heron
Valiant are being methodical, just 0 risks
atomic canopy
Fuck yes, Lucio on Well.
pearl stratus
You can't have literally 0 answer for a Pharmercy.
nova wadi
guess not
nova wadi
you still need someone to counter pharah lmao
sinful heron
"FUCK THIS PHARAH" comp
scarlet spear
if you stand still and dont move pharah cant see you 
pearl stratus
I can't actually tell whats wrong with Florida.
Their DPS aren't bad, Mannetin isn't horrible.
sinful heron
I know some people put the blame at their supports
Not being able to keep people alive well enough, idk how true that is
atomic canopy
Valiant hasn't played against Dynasty, have they?
scarlet spear
their teamplay seems pretty awful
they cant seem to be able to get in proper kills
they dont??
sinful heron
Just a lump of rock
scarlet spear
sinful heron
NICE
heady idol
went for a coffee, walked to the coffee place and came back and I thought LAV would've won by now
4-0'd by now*
stuck meadow
Another 4-0 L
heady idol
talking a walk with his dragon(blade)
always makes me laugh seeing who has to be on the payload duty
stuck meadow
Possible 3-1?
heady idol
scary when both tanks jump off point in OT
stuck meadow
nvm lul
heady idol
lul
stuck meadow
Florida mayhem should just stay making my mcdonalds order
marsh pumice
i don't like when matches are so unbalenced
heady idol
lmao
atomic canopy
Soon is fun on widow
stuck meadow
Yeah it should be Florida Mayhem vs Bos- oh they got good nvm
heady idol
envy bomb
heady idol
oh god I feel a c9 inc
heady idol
yeah at least it wasn't a c9
pearl stratus
They all just turned on music and turned off comms.
Decided they had enough for the day.
Blizzard sent out a statement "Stop with this 0-4watch bullshit. I don't care if you throw the last match, its bad for viewers."
heady idol
gg
marsh pumice
what's the next game?
heady idol
Gladiators vs Outlaws
restive spear
meh
marsh pumice
ty
halcyon chasm
if only overwatch league was playing in european time zones 
marsh pumice
true
full lion
if only europe was in north america
halcyon chasm
it's january 28ths now 😛
restive spear
I salute my euro allies, we can defeat evil korea together
balmy wolf
pbaff im in ireland and i play on na XD
heady idol
whats your ping?
balmy wolf
*sighs i dont lag tho
restive spear
you cant lag when you play in cinematic 30fps
halcyon chasm
gulag 
balmy wolf
i play on 70 fps and i do not lag u idiots
just cause my ping is 150 does not mean i lag
halcyon chasm
I have 300fps on overwatch 
full lion
150 ping is kinda bad
balmy wolf
but i dont lag
halcyon chasm
0,15 sec lag
full lion
playing against someone on na who has maybe 30 ping you are lagging
balmy wolf
thats nothing to me i still hit everything
full lion
its just not extreme
wide basin
Man, I'm glad it was least a 3-1
halcyon chasm
even if it's 1ms it's still lag 
wide basin
Hard enough being a Mayem fan without you fools spamming 4-0 in my face the whole time 😛
heady idol
Is there a reason you're a mayhem fan? jw
river birch
Ive bene out of the loop
heady idol
from florida?
heady idol
da LUL as
river birch
I was under the impressions that Fuel was the western hope or something
narrow dew
valiant new west hope
copper latch
You know who is up there? HOUSTON OUTLAWS BABY!
wide basin
@heady idol Yep!
Otherwise I'd probably just root for Boston, since they're usually my go to for sports teams.
heady idol
gotcha
full lion
LANE ROBERTS
wooden hull
Surefour needs to play the whole match
restive spear
Here will forsure play four rounds
viral bronze
muma!!!
heady idol
jake is hot af
restive spear
is this a grudge match?
wooden hull
😂
halcyon chasm
Obligatory Muma KappaPride
wooden hull
Hhaha
viral bronze
is this caster a man or a woman
halcyon chasm
maybe HE's both Kappa
marsh pumice
wooden hull
viral bronze
what
vestal mortar
viral bronze
muma
halcyon chasm
momma
marsh pumice
last game of the week must be filled i want 5 maps
serene tendon
what are the predictions for this game?
viral bronze
why biggoose hair
twilit ridge
idle beacon
@marsh pumice we already had a 5map
viral bronze
surefour has same hair as xqc
marsh pumice
2-2 then win the 5th
viral bronze
jakes a 1trick?
marsh pumice
i don't really mind one or the other i just want it to be 3-2
scarlet spear
god surefours tracking 
viral bronze
rolled and smoked my doggies
marsh pumice
hahahaha
halcyon chasm
marsh pumice
non stop
restive spear
I want gladiators to win so we get a competitive 4th spot for finals
pearl stratus
I don't think anyone really discounts LAG though. They're a really good team.
stuck meadow
Why are they still ripping on that fucking man jake lmao
pearl stratus
That was just announcers throwing unnecessary shade.
halcyon chasm
they are all good teams hahah 😄
heady idol
honestly the casters kinda bug me sometimes
pearl stratus
Gladiator damage is so high on Muma though.
heady idol
sometimes it feels like they say what twitch chat wants them to say
pearl stratus
Like the focus is so good.
pearl stratus
I think the announcers, for the most part, have no clue what they're talking about so they just kind of say things to fill air time. lol
I mean they spent how long talking about hair prematch?
stuck meadow
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
copper latch
to be fair, did you see that hair?
pearl stratus
I like Bischu on LAG. He's like..
Their own version of Mickie.
He's so upbeat and goofy.
wooden hull
4 0
pearl stratus
I don't think I'll agree entirely.
IRemixx and Bischu have played together for so long, haven't htey?
marsh pumice
why don't they use those flufly wrist rests?
copper latch
i though those were actually bad for you
copper latch
you want to arch you wrists off the keyboard not rest them on anything
marsh pumice
i use one and i can't live without it anymore, rest the palm
copper latch
^shun that man!
marsh pumice
no this is caused by years of playing without one, oh theres a guy that uses
i forgot is name, he plays support
pearl stratus
Also age determines a lot of it.
pearl stratus
Younger people who play games as much as they do are not getting carpal tunnel as much.
molten skiff
I watch the games on phone
pearl stratus
It's weird.
molten skiff
Why does it feel like twitch has better stream quality than owl app
pearl stratus
I mean its phone too. So a lot of other things can go into it.
Does your provider have a contract with twitch? Do they suppress data to not supported streaming things? etc.
marsh pumice
i mean my keyboard came with one but i don't use it, i got a memory foam to replace it
copper latch
yeah mobil twitch works really well
pearl stratus
Verizon, for instance, screws over non-verizon streaming things.
marsh pumice
I lose SR to Junkrat and Mercy - Today at 11:35 PM
Younger people who play games as much as they do are not getting carpal tunnel as much.
pearl stratus
Constantly throttle, etc.
pearl stratus
Yeah Linkzr getting into the zone is so ridiculous.
marsh pumice
that was fast
viral bronze
muma!!
molten skiff
Wha
pearl stratus
You should watch him his last match they played.
marsh pumice
lot's of time in the bank
atomic canopy
How's Linkzr's Widow?
molten skiff
What just happened
wooden hull
So many good widow
pearl stratus
All 3 are just so impactful though
marsh pumice
3 minutes more it's a lot
copper latch
jake should have stayed on the Soldier
atomic canopy
I wanna see Fleta vs Linkzr Widow duel.
pearl stratus
Fleta hit over 100 kills on Widow last night against NYXL.
In 3 weeks.
It's insane.
marsh pumice
to defend junkrat is better i think
wooden hull
Carpe is very very very good on widow too, birdring also
pearl stratus
Yeah, every team has a good Widow.
atomic canopy
How did they lose vs Excelsior then?
pearl stratus
Jake aerial battling Pharah on Junkrat.
Is kind of funny
Because his grenades were REAL close.
copper latch
oh my
idle beacon
score so far?
marsh pumice
yeh they are
copper latch
0-0
vestal mortar
😓
idle beacon
which map? (i ain't watchin)
marsh pumice
4-3 now
pearl stratus
4 minutes.
vestal mortar
I am so anxious watching this haha
pearl stratus
To get 1 tick.,
marsh pumice
4:20m
marsh pumice
:smokeweed:
pearl stratus
I enjoy Hydration when he plays 'off-meta' more.
I think he handles it well and confuses enemies.
marsh pumice
triple dps
pearl stratus
His Doomfist play is really good.
wooden hull
The haircut of rawkus 
copper latch
thats 1!
marsh pumice
done
vestal mortar
👏
viral bronze
muma op
pearl stratus
Outlaws are a very thinky team too.
They talk a LOT.
You can see it between matches.
copper latch
yep @pearl stratus just need the picks and take it fast. good strat.
swift light
agh
vestal mortar
🕯 Mendo
south quest
@vestal mortar yeah! when are we gonna see some mendo??
vestal mortar
When the Outlaws core is solid enough to add in new players into the mix
south quest
@vestal mortar fair
swift light
i think junkertown is their best map prob
pearl stratus
Whats funny is people give Jake so much crap for Jakerat.
swift light
yea they all ran over effect though
pearl stratus
And Seagull has now gone 10 maps playing NOTHING but Junkrat, not even allowed to bring out his Genji.
vestal mortar
Junkgull
marsh pumice
wow
swift light
yea he aint that good at junk
atomic canopy
If I was Blizz I'd sell add space in sprays and then force change the sprays that players have equipped while playing to the ads.
ad space*
I can't decide if that's a good idea or downright evil.
marsh pumice
no medics...
copper latch
ohhh
vestal mortar
copper latch
that air mine!
copper latch
and Symmetra...
south quest
@halcyon chasm 
wooden hull
Harsh
atomic canopy
How is Houston not ranked higher? This is the first game I'm watching and they're impressive.
untold minnow
they lost 2 games in a row initially
swift light
bc they lost to phili and NYXL so people were like o they suck
hope this is another 4 - 0
jaunty tendon
wow
copper latch
what!
jaunty tendon
brutal
halcyon chasm
?
sinful heron
Lets go?
copper latch
those were some mind games there.
halcyon chasm
what was taht?
vestal mortar
Let's goooo!
swift light
I was reading the convo and they took the point by then so i didnt get to see
copper latch
They dont let other team play their strats out. very good at seeing through others plans. @upper patrol
jaunty tendon
I think these outlaw guys might be good at ow
full lion
banned for saying balls
vestal mortar
Oh TaiRong
full lion
using v for melee DansGame
sinful heron
I'm on F
I knew a guy who used to bind his scroll wheel to A and D so he could just scroll up and down to strafe
jaunty tendon
That's the most ridiculous bind I've heard of
sinful heron
Yup
jaunty tendon
why wouldn't he just press a and d lmao
copper latch
my winston hi emote is right click so i can "hi there" super fast.
sinful heron
It was something like he liked having his keyboard hand free to quickly swap weapons
jaunty tendon
Dude is a loon
sinful heron
Mhm
serene tendon
oh yay houstons winning
vestal mortar
mint lodge
Poor guy seems to be perma-benched 😦
copper latch
Linkzr, playing like a god lately
full lion
that was so good lol
worn falcon
jakerat \o/
mint lodge
Verbo's on LAV
But they haven't fielded him once
Nope, they've had Kariv on Lucio a few times
marsh pumice
outlaws really strong and playing frekin well, what a team
sinful heron
Outlaw are playing super well ATM
sinful heron
If glad don't step it up they don't have much chance
supple prism
if i placed bets on these games I would have won so much money
marsh pumice
wow
mint lodge
I have a no stakes betting thing going with a friend
I lead atm :>
But I was overoptimistic with LAG on this 😦
Thought Outlaws'd win 2-3
jaunty tendon
Why doesn't this channel have a bet bot?
mint lodge
Which looks unlikely for now
marsh pumice
true
final river
rip
sinful heron
MUMA THE BM
marsh pumice
it's going down 4-0
south quest
gotem!!!
marsh pumice
glads are still sleepin
south quest
jaunty tendon
Where can I find the map pool for stage 2?
dusk garden
Those guys in the purple suit are gonna become like the green men in hockey LUL
atomic canopy
That last reflect kill on Asher was insane.
narrow dew
he was just standing
supple prism
the standings page isnt loading!
narrow dew
asher killed himself
molten skiff
did asher kill himself again
can we just call it asher when a player falls off the map by accident
atomic canopy
Although he did well for the rest of the map. Didn't really get rekt by Linkzr.
pearl stratus
Linkzr was just asserting dominance over Asher.
jaunty tendon
First half of the last map was just following around linkzr watching him miss
I'm not shitting on link I'm just saying it's a bummer when they don't flip the game, they should really broadcast with a bit of delay to set up the camera's proper.
pearl stratus
Houston doing the one thing that Profit wishes his team did.
Telling their players when they're on face cam.
atomic canopy
Or at least show a couple more replays.
pearl stratus
Not always, iirc.
And not in between games for set up.
Which is when Profit flipped off the camera lol
idle beacon
whats the score?
pearl stratus
3-0.
idle beacon
who
pearl stratus
Houston.
idle beacon
ok
vestal mortar
pearl stratus
LAG doing that 0-4.
I though it was going to be 3-2 honestly.
LAG is a good team, they're not playing well tonight
jaunty tendon
houiston
plucky sun
anyone here been to the studio?
i bought tickets. just wondering if they got food and stuff
pearl stratus
@plucky sun
Food and drink for sale.
Can bring in one bottle of water.
Oh wow.
Only $10 for parking.
That's crazy cheap for LA.
clear bear
someone send me the twitch stream please
pearl stratus
Are tickets really only $20?
plucky sun
when i googled the tickets i was led to the universe site directly. and there's pretty much no info there
clear bear
ty
plucky sun
yeah it for sure is haha
final river
why are they getting rekt like this?
pearl stratus
LAG are just having a really bad day.
heady idol
I though LAG was like top 6 material
heady idol
weird
serene tendon
houstons just top 5
pearl stratus
They're super uncoordinated.
vestal mortar
Outlaws 👏
plucky sun
damn big goose egg
pearl stratus
They look like Shanghai vs Florida, honestly.
Jakes been playing so many weird things too.
Jaketracer.
delicate mural
lethal bluff
Really love the effort here from LAG
pearl stratus
Yay
final river
so easy lmao
pearl stratus
Another 30 second defense.
jaunty tendon
what an absolute show
final river
yesterday games super long, today super short
pearl stratus
"PERFECT PLAN."
delicate mural
H-TOWN, BABY.
atomic canopy
Why the hell would you concede so much ground when you have to full hold?
tough holly
"Let's all play in the back when the finish line is right there!"
amber pine
Fastest series in owl
pearl stratus
Why would you do it in a giant pile against a junk rat with no high ground advantage too.
amber pine
I think
pearl stratus
Like what.
full lion
damn they really did 4-0
plucky sun
living up to the name
pearl stratus
4-0 that just got more and more dominating too.
First game was the only good game.
full lion
who laughin at jake now
daring widget
who won
pearl stratus
Houston 0-4watched.
green inlet
damn near killed 'em
daring widget
lololol
atomic canopy
Huston
pearl stratus
"Nice hair bro"
You can tell the match was garbage.
Because we've talked more about hair then the match.
heady idol
rawkus is a qt though
atomic canopy
Very dominant. Linkzr was op
pearl stratus
But they've seriously talked about hair SO MUCH this match.
heady idol
his eyes are so dreamy
worn falcon
rawkus my man
plucky sun
not happening
pearl stratus
That'd be crazy.
full lion
his hair is majestic
pearl stratus
I'm guessing we'll get to 5 games though.
I actually expect a reverse sweep in favor of Seoul.
atomic canopy
Kek graphics glitch
pearl stratus
I think Houston will come out really aggressive and take the first 2.
Then Seoul will adapt.
And take the last 3.
pearl stratus
No Mendo today.
dusk garden
FUCK
pearl stratus
1.5 deaths per game, lmao.
dusk garden
WHY
pearl stratus
Shaz and Goose got focused -so- hard.
And were not getting tank protection.
Widow is rare on Well.
But Hydration being in roster you know its going to be a Pharah.
dusk garden
I wanna see mendo
pearl stratus
So the Widow was the smart call.
marsh pumice
they are not even going to win one?
final river
demoralized
pearl stratus
I really think something just didn't click with LAG tonight.
The tanks and healers had a huge disconnect.
DPS was doing what they needed to do.
forest raven
Standings at the end of week 3 (W-D-L):
Seoul Dynasty: 5-1 [19-1-5]
New York Excelsior: 5-1 [18-1-7]
London Spitfire: 5-1 [18-0-8]
Houston Outlaws: 4-2 [19-0-6]
Los Angeles Valiant: 4-2 [15-2-9]
Philadelphia Fusion: 4-2 [13-1-14]
Boston Uprising: 3-3 [13-0-14]
Los Angeles Gladiators: 2-4 [9-0-17]
San Francisco Shock: 2-4 [8-2-15]
Dallas Fuel: 1-5 [7-3-15]
Florida Mayhem: 1-5 [6-0-18]
Shanghai Dragons: 0-6 [4-0-21]
forest raven
The gap between the top three is one map and one tie
pearl stratus
Yeah, I didn't say they were #1 by much lol
atomic canopy
Hell yeah Seoul no 1
pearl stratus
Same with Mayhem.
Mayhem is only 2 maps ahead of Shanghai.
And they've WON a game.
marsh pumice
only next week more, sad i love this league and would watch all days
atomic canopy
Yeah, Seoul v Huston is the game to watch.
young sonnet
Chat just spamming like sheep
marsh pumice
jake was right
young sonnet
I doubt it gives tokens
quasi thistle
ah
young sonnet
Hope they give seoul a good game next week.
pearl stratus
People just like to meme on Jake. He doesn't make all the super flashy plays (thats on Linkzr) but he's insanely smart with good game sense, and his calling works for Houston.
young sonnet
Yh i think it's just that, a "meme" that chat likes to spam. If someone genuinely thinks he's bad then they're naive.
idle beacon
if fusion keeps it up with the wins, they might end up in the top3
delicate mural
young sonnet
T H I C C
balmy wolf
Why don’t teams just get rid of all the players never used, such as xQc, Clockwork, Sado. These players are being payed to sit on the bench...
young sonnet
Same reason regular sports don't get rid of players that are benched. They're there just incase some one is sick and needs to fill
He's absolutely correct. Houston have amazing teamwork and will probably stick in the top half of the table.
They're an all english speaking team as well right? That probably helps.
Oh man
molten skiff
did mendo play today?
narrow dew
no
young sonnet
I don't mind someone being cocky unless they're a complete dick about it. But saying it's disgusting is completely wrong IMO
Exactly. Glad stumbled pretty hard here. Kinda deserve to get trash talked a bit.
heady idol
custa is a class act
spiral summit
this guy have not seen real sports
i think i am liking the outlaws, a bit of badboys 😛
cunning laurel
is there a game on rn/soon
fresh arrow
slim summit
spiral summit
so i am going to root for the team closes by mile to chicago
and it philly
so do i need to buy a dog mask now and act like a asshole or is that only eagles fans?
soft jetty
fact: SBB is best tracer in the league
mortal radish
houston kinda bad
wooden isle
Any uprising fans here? I'm from the area so I gotta support my bois
mortal radish
idk how they have that many map wins
theyre on the UPRISING
HAHAH
HAHAHAHA
nah fusion and uprising are good
theyre improving
seoul still gonna win
soft jetty
seoul winning is not a surething
mortal radish
nyxl beat them but they gotta have an L at some point
soft jetty
lunatic-hai didnt get to the finals in apex s4, and the teams that did are now on the same team
london
its not for sure at all
mortal radish
yea but they got fleta
soft jetty
???
mortal radish
and they had pretty bad dps
soft jetty
ok
soft jetty
that still doesnt make them winning the whoile thing so certain that you can call it now
nyxl and spitfire have a shot of beating them
mortal radish
i mean nyxl and london have a shot
but i dont see any team other than that beating them
def not fuel after theyre 1-5
soft jetty
mickie is not a hog main and they are playing him like he is
soft jetty
they need another offtank
gaunt acorn
@soft jetty keep in mind the coach of GC Busan is now the coach for Seoul Dynasty
mortal radish
who is good hitscan
heady idol
Who do you guys think is the most "streaky" player? Like sometimes they are on fire, othertimes they're useless
gaunt acorn
taimou
heady idol
has taimou played recent? ic an't recall
gaunt acorn
yeah, mostly on roadhog
forest raven
Taimou didn't play this week
heady idol
ahh
mortal radish
who do you think is better fusion or boston uprising
gaunt acorn
philadelphia probably
forest raven
If Libero can start doing what he did against Seoul consistently I'd put him and Sbb over those two imo
forest raven
Lijiang isn't the most McCree/Widow friendly map
mortal radish
but pine is better hitscan than libero
and they put libero in hitscan instead of pharah
if they were gonna do that they shouldve just had pine
i didnt watch seoul v nyxl what happened
soft jetty
sbb is the best tracer
forest raven
Seoul clutched out Horizon by capping point B in the first round with 1.9 seconds then Fleta getting two tires on both supports in the next round
soft jetty
that close
mortal radish
OOF
forest raven
Seoul full held NY on Junkertown
soft jetty
2cp map finished after 6 rounds
forest raven
Eich was pretty one sided
soft jetty
ya
forest raven
Fleta got shut down by Libero
mortal radish
wat happened on eichenwalde
soft jetty
they did a really good job shutting down fleta
forest raven
NY held just before 2nd
soft jetty
its hard to shut down a widow as good as fleta on second point of eich
mortal radish
they have 4 tracer mains
thats like half
and they should keep babybay and sinatra
soft jetty
who do u guys think mayhem is gonna try to pick up
mortal radish
and trade danteh
tru but sinatra is a better tracer
imo
they def need to trade iddqd tho
spring lintel
They will clap seoul harder
gaunt acorn
updated rankings in pinned msgs for today's matches
quick pecan
is there anywhere other than twitch to watch the VoDs of yesterdays games?
molten skiff
i heard whoru is now under fusion's academcy team
forest raven
WhoRU is a year younger than Haksal
soft jetty
is season 2 gonna happen like a month after the end of season 1
solid spear
delicate mural
fervent temple
Fl0w3r
onyx shore
grizzled mulch
this is my map analysis of Philly's defense vs NYXL please watch and give feedback kthxbye
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gaunt acorn
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scarlet spear
remix with the 483... that might be the lowest rating i've ever seen on winstonslab
meanwhile coolmatt getting one of the highest ratings i've ever seen
forest raven
Glads got absolutely dismantled
After their first attack on Numbani they were totally shutdown
kind lichen
Anyone got a Standings List with map wins/losses on it?
scarlet spear
ctrl + p
or command + p if you're on a mac (check the pins, they have the standings)
vestal mortar
Dunno what I'm gonna do next week for Outlaws vs Dynasty.
I kinda want Outlaws to win >_>
forest raven
Traitor
vestal mortar
I KNOW! 😭
forest raven
Also you're a fan of both but choose to cheer for the losing team 
vestal mortar
Maybe I am a bit of a masochist heh
young sonnet
Would like to see outlaws win personally. I want to see the top teams get shook up some more.
Why does it have to be two in the morning though 💢
vestal mortar
2am for me too. I'll just have to not look at any social media in the morning until I watch the vod
young sonnet
I'll probably watch the first bit. See if it's gonna be a stomp and then decide if i go to bed 
hidden vault
I realised most Dva Esports players are flex players and they main Zarya too
forest raven
Yeah a lot of off tank players were originally mainly Zarya players because she was meta for most of 2016
D.va was in the can until the tail end of APEX season 1
hidden vault
So we consider off tank players as flex?
forest raven
Most are, for sure
hidden vault
so am I right to say off support players are flex players too?
forest raven
Depends on the player, but generally if a player has the ability to aim with Zen/Ana they can aim with heroes like 76/Bastion
Though you generally wouldn't call flex support players general flex players because they'll only go off the support role in very specific circumstances
hidden vault
But that doesn't justify the fact we place off tank players as flex
forest raven
So you're just arguing semantics?
hidden vault
yeah...
i'm sorry must be boring:(
anyways so there are
main dps
main tanks
main supports
Off tank/flex tank
Off support/ flex support???
General flex
why isn't there off dps
forest raven
It's generally split as DPS, Main Tank, Off Tank, Support, Flex Support
"Flex" can be interchangeable with DPS and Off Tank on a player by player basis
hidden vault
Would there be a true general flex player? where the player fills?
Do we actually have an Esports player like that?
tawny sigil
half way through Glad vs outlaws... and all i gotta say is https://i.imgur.com/c7JFBQQ.png
forest raven
Libero has played support, dps and off tank in pro games
A lot of primarily dps players play the Hog in tank heavy compositions
hidden vault
Libero's signature heroes are D.Va Genji Pharah. He is considered a flex in his wiki and DPS/Flex in NYXL's line up.
While Gido's signature heroes are Tracer Genji Zenyatta. He is considered a flex in his wiki and DPS/Flex in Seoul's line up.
forest raven
Yep
In the pre-season, due to Jjonak not being old enough, he filled as flex support for NY
forest raven
Absolutely not
hidden vault
I see hmm
vestal mortar
Gido has played support before when Jehong was away with family stuff on LH
hidden vault
nah I moved it up:D
vestal mortar
Ohhh
hidden vault
since you guys seem to be starting another convo so
vestal mortar
/shrug
hidden vault
Well I do find flex players interesting
I haven't really seen any Esport players with signature heroes from the 3 departments
and most tank players are Winston Reinhardt or Reinhardt Winston
I'm a Dva Reinhard player and I used to consider myself as a tank player, but where would it leave me now? 💁
I might as well consider myself as a flex player because i'm probably going try to pick up Zen and fill for Mercy this season
Welp but the discussion isn't on me it's the Flex players in Esports
forest raven
Zappis is another flex player. He's played both a dedicated dps and off tank role in teams he's been in
hidden vault
Well I guess we can consider Xushu too
Pharah and Winston
hmm Zappis is an active player but he isn't playing with any OWL teams
forest raven
It looks like he'll be in stage 2
He wasn't announced as part of the new Gigantti roster with Davin
hidden vault
Wow which team?
forest raven
We don't know
hidden vault
is he playing for any team right now?
forest raven
He was on Gigantti during Contenders season 1, the same team as Linkzr, Shaz, Biggoose and Fragi
After Contenders the team obviously broke up due to 2/3rds of the team going to OWL teams
hidden vault
I checked but Zappis isn't part of Gigantti anymore
and I don't think new teams would be ableto enter stage 2?
forest raven
No, but the signing window begins after stage 1 ends
So teams can sign on new players to their rosters
e.g. Zappis, aKm
And they can begin playing as soon as stage 2 begins
hidden vault
That's a pretty small window
forest raven
The free agent signing period began on the 22nd January and ends 3rd April
hidden vault
Wait so it already started?
forest raven
Yep
But players can't actually be added to rosters until the 21st February, the first day of stage 2
hidden vault
rights but it means they can be signed mid way into stage 2 and play?
narrow dew
there's 2 week idle
forest raven
Yep, as long as teams sign players before the 3rd April, they can play
Well, after the 3rd they can't sign players regardless
forest raven
Signing doesn't end on the 21st
forest raven
That's just when teams can add new players to their active rosters
No, after the 21st
Teams can sign players from the 22nd January to the 3rd April
forest raven
Teams can put them on the active roster from the 21st February to the 3rd April
narrow dew
that's odd that there's no roster lock
forest raven
3rd April is the cutoff date
After that, rosters are locked for the rest of the season
hidden vault
Yeah I agree with Mika on that
I thought rosters would be at least locked off during each stage
forest raven
Throughout all of stage 2, teams can add players to their active rosters
hidden vault
Stage 3?
forest raven
Yep
hidden vault
Seems weird? if I was blizzard I would either lock them from stage 1 or before each individual stage
Blizzard seems to be quite generous to allow teams to have the whole stage 2 for freedom
green inlet
i think it's strange that they can pick up during stage one but at the end of stage 2 (basically midseasons) would make sense
hidden vault
Well it's the end of stage 1 and whole of stage 2
forest raven
Again, they can't put players on the active roster during stage 1
frail charm
Were there any matches yesterday?
hidden vault
Yes there are you can check #esports-news
forest raven
Shoddy tank line, poor comms, relatively limited dps pool
rustic perch
but.. they have won 1 match 
forest raven
Most of the team is inflexible because of that
rustic perch
i'm wondering if they planned to get akm in anyways, or if they are hoping that he could change something up in the team
rustic perch
Fragi usually isnt bad
frail charm
HOTBA's debut was fair but Poko and him can't both play D. Va
And that's all three tank options
I wish Roadhog was viable on more maps cause HOTBA was dominant with that hook
rustic perch
they can
hidden vault
Hog's hook usually needs a shield that's where Rein or Orisa comes in
Of course they can but just not as great
Plus I don't think any teams played Hog with Dva
forest raven
Hog/D.va's played as a tank duo on some maps
Sometimes on Junkertown for example
I distinctly remember Mano playing Hog and Mek0 playing D.va at one point during the Seoul-NY game
hidden vault
Hmm really?
forest raven
Yep
hidden vault
I was told by my coach that they don't match and my team should avoid it so I don't
I guess it does match some how
jovial shoal
hog and d.va are very offensive
they’re not the greatest match since protection utility is pretty minimal
but they can dish out a lot of burst damage and take a lot of punishment and attention themselves
finite cedar
But on the other hand, Hog is slow and lacks mobility, which considerably change the pace you can move in with DVa.
lyric pivot
The range on the hook would more than make up for that. D.Va is a good distraction when she dives. This allows Roadhog some openings if she can get in their back line
tawny sigil
which team is it impossible to win stage 1 at this point even if they only scored wins?
deft valley
None of the 2-4 and below teams "control their own destiny"
forest raven
I think at this point only Shanghai is mathematically eliminated from stage playoffs
No matter what happens
deft valley
ie even if they win everything they need other results to help them
And Shanghai won't be in the stage finals no matter what
finite cedar
Stage 1 finals, Playoffs are a long way off.
tawny sigil
when do the elimination start?
finite cedar
June or something.
deft valley
stage finals are after 10 games and they are for top three teams
forest raven
Stage 1 playoffs are the 10th February
deft valley
playoffs are after 4 stagtes
finite cedar
Stage 4 ends on June 17th.
forest raven
Season playoffs begin on the 11th July
finite cedar
deft valley
no
finite cedar
Better: there: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/about
forest raven
Stage finals is the top team is in the grand final and the 2nd and 3rd play in a semi final qualifier to play the top 1 team
finite cedar
Every stage finals are the same principle.
forest raven
Mhm
And season playoffs are the two division champions than the top 4 regardless of division
finite cedar
For stage finals, 2 and 3 of the stage play against each other then, they play 1 of the stage. So Shanghai could be a stage finalist.
deft valley
shanghai won't be a stage finalist for stage 1`
the top 3 teams are 5-1
shanghai won't have more than 4 wins
finite cedar
Not stage 1, but they could make it in another stage.
deft valley
yeah but anything can happen for another stage
narrow dew
does stage 2 rankings
start from 0-0
and then they add up all 4 stages at the end
or they keep their record
deft valley
for stage yes, for playoffs it's the total
finite cedar
There's 2 ranks, stage ranks and season ranks. Stage ranks are for the final of the stage, and season ranks are for the playoffs.
forest raven
Each stage the rankings reset for the purposes of each team having the same chance to win the $100k at the end of the stage, but season playoffs are the total record across all four stages
narrow dew
valiant philly first game
next week
chances are slim for both of them
valiant gotta beat dynasty
in week 5
if they want a chance
finite cedar
I'm not sure, we could always see some other upsets.
deft valley
I mean they don't seem as untouchable at this point so it's not a given
deft valley
yeah cause philly already did the hard part
narrow dew
they're left to play vs boston, fuel and florida
finite cedar
Week 5 won't be easy for London I think. Houston then New York is a tough week and not the most easy games to prepare.
hidden vault
Looking forward to London vs New York
deft valley
what kind of thinking is that lol
forest raven
I mean
deft valley
you can be the best and still have a difficult schedule
forest raven
Seoul's a better team than London and Houston
deft valley
not a hard concept
forest raven
I don't see those two games going beyond a 3-1
deft valley
NY didn't see themselves losing to Philly either
forest raven
NY were playing Seoul the following day
They put their time into prepping for Seoul and it showed
deft valley
excuses, excuses lmao
forest raven
I mean they beat Seoul
finite cedar
Seoul might have made it harsh for NYXL, they lost to the Fusions.
forest raven
That's a good enough excuse for me
deft valley
bandwagoning the best team doesn't mean they'll win every time
deft valley
and yet you still talk exactly like every bandwagon fan from any sports league
"they'll never lose, we're the best"
forest raven
By saying the team with the most decorated players in OW history are better than most other teams?
pearl stratus
I still think NYXL has the most bandwagon in terms of overhype.
deft valley
so is disregarding a possibility of losing
pearl stratus
Pines literally played one good game, and everyones all over that wood.
finite cedar
NYXL is probably the most flashiest team, with really big star DPS players.
pearl stratus
Well SBB earned his hype.
forest raven
I don't disregard the possibility of losing, it's just rather slim
deft valley
seoul's got a ton of bandwagoners
finite cedar
Top team don't need to win all games. They need to win the ones that matters.
deft valley
def more than the other korean teams
forest raven
NYXL has a shit ton of fans because their marketing is the best in the league and Ark's and Sbb's streams are wholesome af
forest raven
They can both speak rather good English
deft valley
they have a lot of detractors but that's because they're the presumed favorite
pearl stratus
I don't give a damn if they can speak english.
You will literally never see a roundeye on NYXL.
pearl stratus
English is just smart for streaming tbh
Since they have an entirely new audience now.
finite cedar
Especially if you stream on American hours.
pearl stratus
Effect has been learning and streaming with some english too actually.
More by lack of choice than anything I think.
Well I mean. Duh.
finite cedar
On stream or during training ? I'm quite sure the NYXL speak Korean between each others.
finite cedar
On stream is something different.
pearl stratus
I watch Pines stream sometimes just because his facial expressions are hilarious
finite cedar
It's also for which public you want to stream.
pearl stratus
But his english is nowhere near the rest of the steam.
Er team too.
Silly little Chubbyrean.
subtle fable
Element mystic tank fearless said he signed with owl team. is there any team which need tank?
finite cedar
Dallas.
deft valley
everyone has 2 tanks already
the issue isn't getting one, it's upgrading theirs or having backups
forest raven
Did he specify if it was a main roster or an academy team?
finite cedar
For me Dallas need something in between xQc and Cocco. They are way too predictable in picks.
subtle fable
he didnt say exactly. at first i thought its misfit or shanghai those has one tank player.
subtle fable
he said he is going to LA. thats why i think it's not academy team.
boston, lav are running multicultural team well. but dallas isnt
grizzled mulch
@subtle fable Florida, Philly, GLA, Dallas is in need of a tank
pearl stratus
LA Glad doesn't really need a tank. Bischu and IRemix are normally on a very close page, yesterday was super weird.
grizzled mulch
you never know tbh
deft valley
philly has 6 different nationalities on the main roster
and they didn't play preseason yet they're doing well enough
subtle fable
i dont understand, but someone said fearless goes to shanghai.
grizzled mulch
what
subtle fable
he said shanghai got him and other korean dps.
I think if it is true, it's going to have a negative impact on chinese fans.
finite cedar
Shanghai does seem to be quite a messy organization.
ocean topaz
London Spitfire = all Asian, not from London
finite cedar
London is all Korean they all speak Korean.
And there's no team with Korean and Chinese players.
drifting mirage
Did Fearless say who the others were?
gusty glen
SEOUL ALL THE WAY BOISSSSS
delicate mural
drifting mirage
> 😤
deft valley
young sonnet
Oh lord Dab emotes
dusk leaf
hey
can someone recommend me which OWL games should i watch? too many of them to binge
young sonnet
Nyxl vs seoul
scarlet spear
^
dusk leaf
alright, will check out. you can keep them coming
i imagine i should watch every game with seoul vs any team that managed to put up a fight
scarlet spear
seoul vs dallas on the first day was pretty sick aswell
young sonnet
They're some good ones you can watch. All 3-2 games so pretty intense matches
dusk leaf
oh i actually watched nyxl vs seoul and dallas vs seoul
both of them were at the very start of the owl
scarlet spear
nyxl vs seoul was this weekend
young sonnet
Watch this weeks nyxl vs seoul
scarlet spear
that was an amazing match
dusk leaf
damn i might have messed up something
young sonnet
I read something in this sub during that game which was so correct, "Seoul are the most untiltable team ever"
balmy wolf
team is named london but members are korean
scarlet spear
jack wanted a western team but simply had no free talent that he wanted to build the team around
young sonnet
Have you seen the amount of asian tourists in london?