I don'y know why gido isn't playing
#esports-discussion
wooden hull
wooden hull
He can play son many heroes
minor ingot
but gido can flex more
minor ingot
everyone thought that esca was weak but he was the backbone of lunatic hai
its a shame he quit
wooden hull
Esca was great
gaunt acorn
ESCA LUL
grizzled mulch
@wooden hull JAKE is overrated atm
gaunt acorn
miss esca 
minor ingot
everyone in the team respected him
wooden hull
Oh, once esca pop his talk visor bcuz jehong gonna die, he killed noone but jehong didn't die, the casters and the chat spammed escalul
grizzled mulch
Esca was one foot out of Lunatic Hai anyway
especially when KSV esports brought the roster
wooden hull
@grizzled mulch I think so, junk willnot rest, and soldier is not in the meta
grizzled mulch
and immediately signed Fleta and other DPS to shore up LH's weakness
@wooden hull his Soldier isn't even that good historically
just because he had one good play in World Cup doesn't mean he is Dafran
wooden hull
Who?
grizzled mulch
JAKE
grizzled mulch
I said JAKE's Soldier isn't very good
grizzled mulch
won't stop him from becoming face of the league tho
throw on stream
write diatribe about one tricks and their harmful effects
grizzled mulch
Next year.
But people are overrated him hard as well
With Flower they couldnt get out of the APEX playoffs
wooden hull
He can play in evry meta
wooden hull
Danteh lul
whole mulch
Sinatraa plays all of danteh's heroes
grizzled mulch
Maybe, but historically LW Blue even with him faltered quite hard
whole mulch
at a higher level
wooden hull
Flower he was injured
grizzled mulch
World Cup was competitive but c'mon
wooden hull
He was not good
velvet scarab
the only thing danteh can play better is sombra
whole mulch
Danteh's sombra is decent yeah
wooden hull
Meh sinatraa so overrated
whole mulch
I don't think sin is too great
wooden hull
Wth tracer
whole mulch
I just think he's slightly above danteh
wooden hull
What can he play?
whole mulch
Sin plays tracer and genji, occassionally flexes onto soldier and cree
that's pretty much it
for pro level
velvet scarab
and zarya
whole mulch
has he played zar in pro?
wooden hull
You need aguy on tracer another on genji
velvet scarab
and with selfless too
whole mulch
who is shock's genji player
wooden hull
Zarya is not meta unfortunately
velvet scarab
babybay has been playing him
whole mulch
ah
wooden hull
Babybay on genji...
whole mulch
so when sin is 18
velvet scarab
but I don't see him as a genji player
wooden hull
Babybay i sthe carry
whole mulch
ye
wooden hull
Tracer in this meta is difficult to be honest
Mercy heals so much
Wth zen lucio she was op
sullen berry
Rewatching when bird ring chooses not to rewind when he dashes off the point on lighthouse 
sullen berry
Admins can edit pins, but the original editor has probably stopped updating it
onyx shore
can seoul win tomorrow?
vestal mortar
Yes
gaunt acorn
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Match days are every Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday!
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gaunt acorn
yes
gaunt acorn
and boston beat london
deft valley
yeah but i don’t root for boston /shrug
gaunt acorn
still a crazy upset
deft valley
yeah it is nice
versed gate
scarlet spear
how did they not put pine in for last control map? NotLikeThis NYXL throwing
gaunt acorn
sandbagging for their seoul match
and sandbagged a little too hard
seems like all 3 korean teams were sandbagging
except seoul made sure not to actually lose the game
slim summit
north tendon
pine wasnt his usual self
there was even a joke statistic about him not landing any headshots at one point
carpe was just a fkn killing machine with that 40K
but yea oh well, seoul match hype
nova wadi
boston first team to win against koreans?
gaunt acorn
yup
balmy wolf
Why is dalles fuel such trash in this league??!!!
nova wadi
the match was so good to watch
forest wharf
damn, was hoping to watch the philly/nyxl game that i missed earlier, guess they go up the day after
anywhere to watch them now?
forest wharf
yea saw that but was wanting to watch the full game
scarlet spear
should be up this day on their page i think
forest wharf
only shows yesterday's atm, whatever, guess i'll wait
tawny sigil
is it just me or they shut down the LGBT sign someone was waving, pretty fast. it was on screen for like half a second and never saw it again
coarse stream
They probably didnt do anything about it
tawny sigil
well they cut the camera pretty fast when it was on screen and it never came up again
nova wadi
but was it intentional tho lul
tawny sigil
not sure about that it was during down time
they show sign a lot during that time
didnt even had time to read it
and you see the same sign the entire day. that one came up within the first 20 minutes and never shown again.
tight vault
seoul op
deft valley
yesterday's matches are up on overwatchleague if you go to the match page
I just finished watching philly-ny
deft valley
https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/match/10250/ for boston-london
https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/match/10251/ for phi-ny
forest raven
imo the more amazing thing is Boston
vagrant jacinth
Yeah I watched that one live
As a spitfire fan that sucked but Boston were playing really good
vagrant jacinth
Kasper was going insane
kindred brook
@balmy wolf Dallas isn't trash haha
balmy wolf
I didnt say that they were trash i said they play trash
Im for fucking dallas fiel but they are just playin to much on defense
tawny sigil
cant read this while watching vods man... you sneaky spoilerinos
forest raven
Gotta watch em quick and stay away from Discord and Reddit
tawny sigil
people starting to announce their stupid stream with sign... thats just desperate for the twitch money.
gaunt acorn
yeah im there now
forest raven
Full stage 1 standings
gaunt acorn
unless you want to start doing it again
forest raven
Nah
plucky vortex
Y, W, What's the difference? 
forest raven
What's the Y stand for
gaunt acorn
yuge
forest raven
plucky vortex
The end of your names
gaunt acorn
old busted
forest raven
gaunt acorn
they dont use that logo no mo
LOGO OUTDATED
@plucky vortex we are a hivemind
of esports shitposts
and not much other substance
plucky vortex
These are the ones I have
forest raven
Or both wrong
gaunt acorn
no flipping the colours is just a branding thing
is what they use now
on official stuff
plucky vortex
Dray do you guys have emoji editing permissions?
plucky vortex
Yeah pls bugger him since I'm out drinking
gaunt acorn
for what
plucky vortex
Can't do emoji well on the phone
plucky vortex
To update our emoji?
gaunt acorn
it is updated
plucky vortex
gaunt acorn
/r/competitiveoverwatch OUTDATED
plucky vortex
You're quick 
gaunt acorn
stuck meadow
NY OUTDATED
LONDON OVERRATED
NA ACTIVATED
forest raven
You what
stuck meadow
= 
= 
forest raven
The Boston roster that beat London was two NA's, three KR's and an EU
stuck meadow
Lmao they're still called Boston fucking uprising
forest raven
The Philly roster that beat NY was a KR and five EU's
forest raven
And I'm definitely not a London fan
stuck meadow
Good shit so why you salty af
forest raven
You're not the smartest tool in the toolshed are you
stuck meadow
Once again I said that I was joking you shit
It's obvious af not everyone on Boston originates in NA
Or, if they did there parents aren't native.
plucky vortex
Easy there
stuck meadow
k
north tendon
thats a great change
forest raven
EZ new profile pic tbh
forest raven
Fl0w3r still can't play even with the new rule change
He turns 18 after the mid-season signing window closes
gaunt acorn
he's signed?
is he not?
just can't play
even if he isn't currently
they could sign him mid-season
forest raven
They can't put him on the roster
gaunt acorn
even if he's not old enough
just like they signed sinatraa before he was old enough
so we can probably see fl0w3r for stage 4 then
forest raven
Sinatraa will join the roster during the mid-season signing window because he'll be 18
Fl0w3r turns 18 in May, so he can't join the roster
Roster changes can't be made outside the signing window
gaunt acorn
NYXL will hire lobbyists to stand outside Nate Nanzer's apartment building
and petition further rule amendments
forest raven
lmao
sullen berry
^
north tendon
gaunt acorn
uhh apparently linking your battlenet to your twitch will now grant OWL tokens for watching games
no announcement is up yet
but.. hype
sullen berry
Hype is legit now?
gaunt acorn
yes
gaunt acorn
everyone who watched yesterday with a linked battlenet got between 5-10 tokens
people on /r/competitiveoverwatch are discussing
unfortunately i watched on the MLG stream not twitch
limber pine
it's funny though, cuz I normally watch on MLG
but this week I've been on twitch
my suspicion is that viewers get 1 per hour of watching
deft valley
doesn't give any for vods either
north tendon
games are satisfying already
gaunt acorn
there wasn't 12 hrs though
north tendon
but thats a great idea
gaunt acorn
assuming it only started yesterday
north tendon
and I like how twitch looks, even if mlg is prolly better
limber pine
six hours wednesday and six hours yesterday?
gaunt acorn
hm
north tendon
plus my net aint good enough
limber pine
it had to be pretty close
gaunt acorn
why can't twitch up their bitrate
limber pine
feelsbadman
gaunt acorn
it looks so garbage in comparison
north tendon
is mlg really that much better?
gaunt acorn
$90,000,000 deal btw haHAA
limber pine
my experience on mlg has been far better
north tendon
twitch chat makes me laugh when they meme and bully a player though
or when they get hype
but yeah overall its stupid
deft valley
i hate twitch chat too but I just hide it
i've watched most owl games on twitch and haven't seen a second of the chat
north tendon
discord is way better for discussing whats happening though haha
but the auto moderation is pretty harsh
got banned more than I can count
makes sense though
gaunt acorn
you can get banned here too if you'd like
deft valley
lmao
north tendon
yes plz
free me
I legit am not the type to get banned though
it was just some caps and repeats
forest raven
After day one I don't rightly blame them for the heavy moderation
limber pine
^^
onyx shore
twitch chat is just too fast,right?
forest raven
For tournaments? Yeah absolutely
Anything above like 3k viewers is too fast for anything of substance
onyx shore
well,even 100-200 people is fast in twitch
source : watching a GM tourney of a private pangya server
forest raven
Nah you can have conversations when there's that few people
onyx shore
but i think watching owl and have conversation here is the best
not too slow,not too fast
i usually split the screen in two
forest raven
Get a 2nd monitor boyo
deft valley
not having two monitors
onyx shore
desk not wide enough
vestal mortar
2 monitors has improved my esports watching experience so much.
onyx shore
then again if the game become too intense,i just minimized the discord
vestal mortar
Smh
vestal mortar
deft valley
2 monitors have improved my everything experience
vestal mortar
Stay woke fam. My boys got this!
north tendon
jjonak is unleashing his hidden potential on seoul
the true awakening
he only needed a worthy foe
AAAAAAAAAAH
forest raven
Also Zunba >> Mek0 EZ
north tendon
well yeah
still, meko had his moments on hog
this is what I like about owl
players can grow and improve
look at boston
forest raven
Yeah def
Equal infrastructure
Every team working towards the same clearly defined goal
north tendon
being on such a big stage and playing so many intense games
its when boys turn into men
sullen berry
On a professional stage
Would you a) panic
b) be the quiet one, where camera shyness comes up or just ignore the face cam when it brings you up
forest raven
Koreans had a tournament circuit to work towards for an entire year with pro games always on the horizon and they ended up stomping the west who had some online tourneys in NA and literally nothing in EU
north tendon
im b) for sure
forest raven
Put them all in the same boat, the gap closes remarkably quickly
forest raven
Also this constant interregional play has never been done in a team game before (i.e. LoL)
onyx shore
it just feels weird that OWL stage doesnt use sound-proof booths
forest raven
I believe it's against fire code in California to do that
north tendon
bill once said the players had high tech noise cancelling headphones, but taimou was talking about someone disrupting their comms by shouting and cussing
so idk
onyx shore
yeah
nc headphone doesnt always works perfectly
it has potential to ruin some sneaky2 plays when the player can hear the crowd say "oooo"
ah,probably this is why dota's TI is always at seattle
oh also risk of cheating by not using the headphones correctly
pearl stratus
Screen runs on a delay.
red anvil
pearl stratus
Yeah but I'm just saying if you need to stop the crowd from ruining "sneaky" plays.
north tendon
lmao
pearl stratus
Literally a 30s delay is all you need.
forest raven
A screen delay in the arena will never happen
forest raven
That would completely disconnect the audience from the action
north tendon
I heard pine was waving after his big plays on ilios to one of the people that attended there
pearl stratus
I mean you're assuming people would notice.
north tendon
that stuff is why it shouldnt go
pearl stratus
Remember we have to teach people not to eat tide pods right now.
I'm not putting it past literally everyone to be retarded.
forest raven
People absolutely would notice
north tendon
when you see the players reacting and things not aligning on screen
you would know shits up
lol
pearl stratus
Also tonights match against NYXL and Seoul is somehow sullied now.
Knowing that they're both not undefeated.
forest raven
They're still two of the best teams in the league and the first Korean matchup
north tendon
even legends fall sometimes, look at krusher99
I think everyone will love nyxl if they even manage to give seoul a run for their money
pearl stratus
I just want to see the coaches thoughts on who they run when.
forest raven
People already love NY
pearl stratus
Or the subbing thing to be explained in full detail.
forest raven
Their marketing is the best in the league
north tendon
yeah, but I mean overtaking seoul or bigger favs
pearl stratus
Because Pine gets such limited play time.
forest raven
There's a FAQ in the pins
north tendon
its because of pine's hero pool
pearl stratus
I guess, but the explanation seems to basic for the limited swaps they make.
north tendon
hes a hitscan
I do think he should play more though
it seems just subbing him cold made him not ready to warm up yesterday
pearl stratus
Yeah, I guess the limited roster is hurting them a bit.
north tendon
I think flower replacing libero will help things a lot
forest raven
Absolutely
north tendon
libero is still great but more of a flex
forest raven
Fl0w3r is a better Pine who can play Genji and Pharah
Libero has played 11 heroes in OWL so far
pearl stratus
Yeah, but I know previous to that he basically played almost everyone.
forest raven
Not counting pre-season where he played flex support
sullen berry
Libero is essential, but cant win without coordination unlike pine from the surface
pearl stratus
Libero is a nice swiss army knife to have on the field.
It covers a lot of things, but Pine is like having a grenade.
forest raven
Libero is definitely a jack of all trades master of none. He doesn't really clutch like other players
pearl stratus
Carpe Pine was super fun to watch, more so then Effect Fleta.
pearl stratus
Mostly because Fleta just crapped all over Effect for four maps.
So it was kind of boring.
forest raven
Libero's Hanzo is a joy to watch
pearl stratus
I find players like Libero the most entertaining to watch, personally.
Because they can come back from spawn with just about anything and do well. Like you said the chance of him going off is lower than a Fleta/Pine/Profit.
But he's consistent and impactful because he can be.. anything.
That game was a surprise anyway.
I expected London to be the first Korean team to lose.
I did not expect NYXL to lose right after them.
Especially not to Boston.
forest raven
Philly is stacked
pearl stratus
LAV/Houston was who I expected to be the first to beat NYXL/Seoul.
They are, but they missed so much of the pre-season with illness and stuff.
I expected a longer growing pain time with communication.
north tendon
I always knew fusion was gonna be a strong team cause of carpe
SDB also has his moments
but if he can play more heroes
forest raven
Indeed
feral wing
lmaoo
north tendon
its a good week for owl
feral wing
it is indeed
sullen berry
I thought fragi had solid ranking, but not when I stack him against Fate, Mano, miro?
forest raven
P sure fragi = fragility lmao
feral wing
I feel like Shock, Uprising and Fusion are extremely underrated
sullen berry
Fragi/agilities would be a massive flex though
sullen berry
Uprising for sure
north tendon
I have been kinda ignoring shock's games
sullen berry
Dallas was overrated coming in, it's that and the high expectations coming into the league
north tendon
wonder how they are shaping up
feral wing
Solid mid tier team
sullen berry
Since you can look at these teams three weeks in with a different mindset than preseason
feral wing
but a lot of people place them low
sullen berry
@north tendon shock is going well. Not enough to want to watch if you haven't so far
forest raven
idd has not been played in the regular season
north tendon
ah, probably something like mayhem
feral wing
Shock are 2-3
north tendon
woah hes still sick?
forest raven
¯_(ツ)_/¯
feral wing
when they get the rest of their players they will jump up a notch tho
sullen berry
Shock > Mayhem in terms of flipping games or reverse sweep potential
feral wing
sinatraa = 12 year old fuckboy in disguise
north tendon
ahaha I get ya
feral wing
etc.
north tendon
yea not a fan of the music
feral wing
so gonna watch the fusion vs excelsior match
lol
next match will be dynasty vs excelsior
north tendon
really good match
feral wing
who do you guys think will win?
north tendon
worth
im rooting for nyxl but i think if they are in top form
they have a good chance against seoul
it will be close
pine was just messy yesterday
feral wing
are fusion, valiant and outlaws the best western teams to compete with the koreans or
feral wing
why dont koreans have their own owl
north tendon
I think thats an accurate assessment right now
forest raven
The entire point of OWL is that it's an international league
north tendon
OWL should be about the best of the best imo
feral wing
not fun to watch when you already know that either nyxl, spitfire or dynasty will win
forest raven
And if Korean teams are too good Boston and Philly wouldn't have beat two of three of them
north tendon
if you separate stuff then its missing the point
forest raven
You separate them the gap will only grow wider
feral wing
I still think overwatch esports will lose their viewers if the trend continues for a couple more years
north tendon
oh oops
feral wing
lol
forest raven
Two of the Korean teams literally just lost to primarily western rosters
forest raven
^
feral wing
I know
forest raven
NYXL lost to a roster of five EU's and a KR
north tendon
yea I just respect his decision lul
sullen berry
That's a ethnicity problem in of itself, because surely you want the best to represent your city no matter their origins. Just as they see the team managers are supportive to put their allocated city encouragement then they could use it as an identity for have a skilled player base
forest raven
London lost to a roster of three KR's, two NA's and an EU
north tendon
lots of people thought boston's roster was trash even with the KR's (me included) but that has proven to be wrong or they got way better
so yeah, ethnicity doesnt matter
north tendon
it caught my eye dreamkazper had the highest hook accuracy on week 1
forest raven
Losing to Shock is obviously indicative of kinks that need to be ironed out
north tendon
even when boston was doing bad
sullen berry
DKaz, I look forward to his performance over the next few weeks
forest raven
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Dynasty don't drop a series this stage
north tendon
their game with dallas had some interesting moments
I think its very plausible they lose
feral wing
owl isnt really much of an international league
north tendon
just needs a time that plays well from start to finish
forest raven
Fucking excuse me
north tendon
team*
feral wing
the teams are from USA, London, China and South Korea
forest raven
feral wing
just saying
pearl stratus
None of the non-Korean teams are bad. They're just, with few exceptions, relatively new teams.
north tendon
the teams dont matter when you have such diversity of players
feral wing
12 countries 
north tendon
thats pretty good for 12 teams?
feral wing
It literally goes down to 12 not 19
forest raven
Holy fuck learn to count, then
feral wing
dafuq
north tendon
DUDE
north tendon
LMAO
feral wing
lmao
pearl stratus
List is numbered 1-12.
north tendon
AHAHA
pearl stratus
"LEARN TO COUNT."
forest raven
Count the countries you mongs
north tendon
and this is why Korea is number 1
feral wing
how is it even numbered
north tendon
lul
forest raven
sullen berry
Love my Asia-Pacific minor reps Mickie 🇹🇭 and Custa🇦🇺
north tendon
yea, how many players on each country
feral wing
^^
pearl stratus
Yes, he's listed as Ethiopian.
But he's lived in the US since he was 4.
He's not -really- repping Ethiopia.
sullen berry
It's ranked by who has most number players in that country, hence 12th equal at the bottom
forest raven
But it's not international
feral wing
If we're gonna go by your ruling draw
sullen berry
Just saying
forest raven
You weren't fuckin born in Mexico
feral wing
that would mean everyone would be listed under one country
forest raven
What
sullen berry
I'm part Asian, but I'm more aligned with Australia because of how insignificant our OW esports performance was in WC
feral wing
if we're going back to our roots then everyone would be listed as one country
goteem
shoot me please
just end my suffering
north tendon
passports
forest raven
What the fuck backwards ass argument is that
north tendon
sign up jackerco for dallas
pearl stratus
Dallas should offer Shanghai a lot of money to pick up Yushu
feral wing
dallas should pick up akm
pearl stratus
Who is officially a better tank than literally everyone on Dallas.
north tendon
taimou best orisa
feral wing
too bad he sucks on every other hero
north tendon
yea, the rogue connection
pearl stratus
Yep.
sullen berry
Mickie 🔮 underrated tank come next round
feral wing
akm was in small talks with dallas fuel
north tendon
soon and akm are best friends for life
pearl stratus
@north tendon And Unkoe.
feral wing
but where is dafran
forest raven
But Valiant doesn't need him
north tendon
oh yea
pearl stratus
They don't need him, but he's got team comp history with a bunch of members.
Which leads to a better team overall usually.
So you'd recruit him almost for that alone.
feral wing
forest raven
It's kinda heinous, but aKm's actually the perfect sub for a team
feral wing
pearl stratus
Also, iirc, Akm has been spending a ton of time on Genji too.
feral wing
sUbScRiBe GuYs
pearl stratus
Which means he could projectile while Soon is on Tracer.
feral wing
AKM was in small talks with dallas fuel
pearl stratus
Yeah.
feral wing
just pointing it out
pearl stratus
Then Dallas fuel actually played.
And now there's no talks.
Why would you talk to a dumpster.
feral wing
thats not what happened lmao
pearl stratus
Not even that hefty.
Casual reminder xQc cried because he makes less than everyone.
Then proved why.
Instantly.
He's officially the most expensive bench in Dallas.
feral wing
xqc isnt even good enough to play pro
limber pine
xqc is definitely good enough to be a pro
pearl stratus
He's good enough, if he could shut his mouth and not tilt.
limber pine
don't be silly
pearl stratus
Personal skill wise he is good enough.
north tendon
xqc is talented
pearl stratus
Team cohesion wise? Maybe a different story.
north tendon
needs to be more mature tho
pearl stratus
It'd actively improve his gameplay I think.
pearl stratus
Watching Seoul tilt him on purpose.
Is still the highlight of OWL for me.
Sleep dart -> D'va Mech.
Then Tracer bomb out of spawn.
pearl stratus
It's a perfectly valid strategy.
pearl stratus
Because his play did go downhill after that.
north tendon
lul
pearl stratus
He reverted to his more SoloQ style of super aggressive winston.
Which works in soloq.
Does not work against coordination.
north tendon
yeah I cant imagine what the atmosphere is like there
one wrong step and you are done
pearl stratus
Effect has said their communication is really bad.
feral wing
B: Casual small talk
pearl stratus
Multiple times.
feral wing
''So how are you today xQc'
pearl stratus
I feel really bad for Effect.
feral wing
''stfu''
pearl stratus
Because he's a really strong player.
north tendon
effect also thought his widow has a long way to go
and he was too confident on tracer
north tendon
it sucks because he cried out of frustration
north tendon
carpe is just too good
pearl stratus
Like I think Soon makes smarter plays in a map-wide sense.
north tendon
aimbotcalvin was once asked about the best tracer he played against
pearl stratus
But Carpe is just dangerous.
pearl stratus
When Jake gets his genji to a stable level it's going to be interesting for Houston too.
Since Jake isn't a bad genji, he's just not consistent yet.
feral wing
Who are the best western teams to contest the koreans?
north tendon
jake is just jakerat atm
pearl stratus
His Soldier was solid, and his Genji is "acceptable" I'd say.
north tendon
fusion is one for sure
pearl stratus
Most of them honestly.
feral wing
I would say its Fusion, Valiant and Outlaws
pearl stratus
Not with their current roster.
Their roster is the problem.
They picked a lot of talent without thinking of the larger game.
feral wing
probably still recovering from internethulk
north tendon
seoul so far seem to be on an entire level of korean too though
we'll have to see today
feral wing
pearl stratus
I wouldn't say another level, but I do think they've been trying a lot of stuff lately which makes them look weaker than they are.
sullen berry
Requesting Best Western meme d
@gaunt acorn
pearl stratus
Whether thats on purpose or not, we'll find out tonight.
The one thing thats super smart that Seoul has done more than any other team though
Is get all of their roster stage time at this point.
north tendon
it just seems like they have no real weakpoints
gaunt acorn
pearl stratus
Granted no Fleta/Munchkin almost cost them against Shanghai.
north tendon
lol
pearl stratus
Which made that a super fun match to watch.
feral wing
nah @gaunt acorn
pearl stratus
Because Shanghai legitimately almost took Numbani too.
feral wing
Florida best western
hidden vault
Shanghai best Asian
gaunt acorn
seoul was sandbagging super hard
sullen berry
I want to watch that VOD so bad
feral wing
shanghai best team in the league
pearl stratus
No more so than versus Florida.
gaunt acorn
shanghai grats on the win but let's not kid ourselves
forest raven
Seoul wasn't playing Kuki, Zunba, Fleta or Munchkin
sullen berry
"China number one"
gaunt acorn
saving strats for game against NYXL
sullen berry
Upakill the least performant players on Dynasty not counting the mainstays
pearl stratus
Nah, you'd be a really dumb team to not play your bench when you can.
They knew the match would go their way most likely.
So they got some of their bench screen time.
I think they definitely underestimated a little bit.
forest raven
Against NYXL they'll run Fleta/Munchkin/Kuki/Zunba/Tobi/Jehong
pearl stratus
Yeah.
forest raven
Might switch out Munchkin for specific maps
sullen berry
Zunba and Miro tank play are hard to measure individually, how are they?
pearl stratus
Right now Zunba is better.
forest raven
Zunba is, imo, the best off tank in the world
sullen berry
Weeknd?
forest raven
Weeked
feral wing
#MakeOverwatchESportsGreatAgain by removing mercy and widowmaker
forest raven
He's a dps
pearl stratus
Miro has a big flaw in the fact that he contributed so hard to the Winston meta that he basically was studied.
So when you play against Miro.
forest raven
Plays Soldier and Junk
pearl stratus
You basically know how Miro is going to play.
sullen berry
@feral wing wrong channel for that kind of #general-discussion
pearl stratus
I think GC Busan was saying it - the way you counter Miro is very simple. Miro will always make the "correct" play in any situation. So you set up the situation, he makes the play exactly how you think he would. Then you kill him.
sullen berry
Esports patching is not a thing when we get the upcoming patches anyway
idle beacon
is there any OWL coverage site?
pearl stratus
I just want stage 2 because I'm sick of Junkertown.
sullen berry
I use Compete and Team liquid, if not the official ow league app is a lightweight one
idle beacon
compete?
pearl stratus
I don't mind Numbani as much.
hidden vault
The team of the game goes to the team who wins without a bastion on junkertown
idle beacon
the liguiwiki page is a good source for all dates and stuff. but i mean .. some reports .. i'd like to read about boston winning vs london .. or phili vs ny 😃
feral wing
Shadowburn is seriously in his own tier of genji play
hidden vault
There is slikthread
sullen berry
Nvm not compete
feral wing
not the same level as shadowburn
narrow dew
fusion never played bastion
feral wing
oof
narrow dew
and they got 50% win rate on junker
sullen berry
I don't endorse this for general esports coverage
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/01/south-korean-overwatch-team-lunatic-hai-disbands/
hidden vault
Bastion noobs
pearl stratus
I'd click but its Kotaku.
feral wing
no aim no brain symmetra main
pearl stratus
Which is the Fox news of gaming.
sullen berry
Compete is an esports spinoff run by kotaku
idle beacon
hm, the official OWL site has no real coverage about matches
idle beacon
well about the 2 matches yday .. how 2 of the top3 teams have been beaten
not exactly analysis, more reports
idle beacon
lol 😃
sullen berry
Reports?
pearl stratus
Probably like damage / healing / kills / etc.
sullen berry
Post match reporting I leave to the desk, China or the Standard desk
feral wing
fun OFF TOPIC fact of the day: if you were to directly translate the norwegian word for ''R*pe'' to English it would be ''Violence Take''
Damn Dorado is intense
forest raven
Indeed
frail charm
LET'S GO
feral wing
YEE
sullen berry
It was a good day to watch the underdogs
frail charm
I THOUGHT WE WERE TOAST AFTER THE GLADIATORS BEAT US
forest raven
feral wing
sullen berry
Yesterday's battle for LA was well played too
feral wing
ye
frail charm
Easy win, let's go
feral wing
3 am CET
sullen berry
You mean Diya attempts to make Dragons Pop #6
frail charm
It'll be on at 9 PM here
But I'll be at a Smash Bros tournament
Also, good for Houston, turning on the jets
Playoff picture looking hype as hell right now
sullen berry
1PM
frail charm
Nice
sullen berry
7 hours from how the stream will be up
OW League weekend and Wed matches work well for me
frail charm
What's the first game today
sullen berry
The big one
feral wing
nyxl vs dynasty
narrow dew
please no
sullen berry
Not really
feral wing
they will
sullen berry
Fuel communication is still a WIP to call it a win
feral wing
if dallas fuel lose both of their matches lmao
they will literally be considered the worst team in the league
narrow dew
nah
frail charm
I mean, they lose to Boston tomorrow
narrow dew
shangai still worse
frail charm
But I like the matchup tonight
narrow dew
dallas plays shangai last week shame
frail charm
So is each team eventually gonna get their own venue in their respective city?
sullen berry
Shanghai v Dallas would be a matchup nobody saw coming as a serious match
feral wing
lol
frail charm
If both keep losing until February 7th
sullen berry
I will have my dragons put a dent on the scoreboard
frail charm
We'll get Dallas vs Shanghai as the match of the year
feral wing
rooting for shanghai just as a meme now
frail charm
Can you root for them tomorrow?
feral wing
I mean if they win anything
frail charm
Philly needs this win
feral wing
I will root for philadelphia fusion
frail charm
Yay
vestal mortar
👀
narrow dew
no way fusion beats nyxl
feral wing
Im rooting for Fusion, Shock and Fuel although fuel need to get their shit together
sullen berry
I rooted for my home country, so...
frail charm
Lmao
sullen berry
I vote for the memes
frail charm
Sports are crazy like that
feral wing
sPoRtS
sullen berry
Not because I ride the boats, just the odds
frail charm
Like, college basketball the #1 team could beat the #2 team and then lose to a bottom of the barrel division rival
sullen berry
Payouts would be insane
frail charm
It happens all the time
feral wing
shadowburn is way too good at genji
sullen berry
Japan did this too against SA in the Fifa WC
frail charm
Shadowburn is a god
narrow dew
they can drop a map
feral wing
ikr
narrow dew
but dropping 3 maps
frail charm
Philly might drop one map, masx
Max*
And I still think there should be an OWL Draft
Give Shanghai some good boys
idle beacon
glads beaten fusion? did i miss something?
frail charm
Yeah, Philly choked after being up 2-0
sullen berry
Chinese 
seeing their country play as their golden opportunity to go global VS remaining top 500 in their own region?
idle beacon
damn
frail charm
Oh, that's what the Stages are for?
idle beacon
now i remember.. totally forgot about that
frail charm
That makes sense
frail charm
IKR?????
idle beacon
they were so freakin awesome
idle beacon
i was layin in bed, watchin it on the big screen
jumped up when they finally won the tie-break map 😄
and yea .. i had some discussion about genjis .. i was like 'sdb is top3 if not the best gengu in the owl' .. someone else said he'd only be top5
next match is an easy one for phili
the one after shd .. vs val .. gonna be interesting
sullen berry
I had some oh wow moments yesterday hydration couch and with spitfire df