esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

k

80 vs 71

[spring lintel]

They will win the next fight cause it’s 6v8

[balmy wolf]

Neptuno has valk

GG

[wooden hull]

Neptuno has valk

[spring lintel]

They have blade too

[minor ingot]

OH LOOK

[balmy wolf]

And Primal

[minor ingot]

REZ

[balmy wolf]

NOOO

[wooden hull]

WOOOOW

[north tendon]

holy shit

[balmy wolf]

NEPTUNO

YOU FUCKING IDIOT

[minor ingot]

HEY LEMME JUST REZ AFTER THAT PULSE BOMB

[rustic perch]

SDB CARRY

[balmy wolf]

WAIT

C9

[tall sentinel]

fusion is using too much ults i think

[balmy wolf]

SHADOWBURN GO

[spring lintel]

Sdb best genji see

[slim summit]

that's not a c9

[balmy wolf]

OOOOOOOO

[slim summit]

it's just a backcap

[balmy wolf]

OH SHIT

yea but its last fight

[north tendon]

....

[balmy wolf]

IT HAPPENED

SHADOWBURN CARRY

[slim summit]

-> team caps a point ever

[balmy wolf]

they need to ult or lose

[spring lintel]

LOL that run

[balmy wolf]

OMG

[serene tendon]

PHILLYYYYY

[balmy wolf]

OPMG

[slim summit]

-> someone says c9

[balmy wolf]

OMG

OMG

[midnight tiger]

wow

[spring lintel]

Dude sdb is just carrying them

[balmy wolf]

WAIT

[pearl cedar]

SDB clutch

[balmy wolf]

THERS ANOTHER ROUND

FUCK

IM AN IDIOT

[pearl cedar]

whoever said trade SDB, gtfo pls

[spring lintel]

Straight up, not even the first time he is doing it

[north tendon]

yea nvm

[minor ingot]

saebyeolbe picked off zen

[pearl cedar]

such a clutch play for that team LOL

[balmy wolf]

last round unless nyxl wins

[pearl cedar]

no supports

[minor ingot]

but then gets insta rezzed

[wooden hull]

Sdb carry

[pearl cedar]

and gets the HERO blade

[minor ingot]

so theres no point anyway

[spring lintel]

I said it was a good trade u dumbass

[balmy wolf]

REPLAY

[pearl cedar]

wtf

who said i was talking to you

[wooden hull]

WHAT

[pearl cedar]

lmfao

[rustic perch]

boombox on mercy now? what?

[pearl cedar]

it was someone else, watch the way you speak to people dude LOL

[wooden hull]

Libero died how?

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[spring lintel]

You said trade so i thought u misunderstood me

[balmy wolf]

CAn't rez both

boombox has practice on mercy

neptuno is a lucio main

FEEL THE BURN

[spring lintel]

You said gtfo

[sinful heron]

So much damage in that room

[spring lintel]

How is that respectful even for the other person

[slim summit]

when shadowburn gets 10 kills and they don't get the point :tracerkek:

[rustic perch]

[spring lintel]

I dunno wtf is going on

Too many rezes

[balmy wolf]

HOLY SHIIIIIT

[spring lintel]

Not even the point has been taken

[rustic perch]

god finally

[minor ingot]

no one is on sdb

[balmy wolf]

HOly shit

How long did that fight take

COME ON

[jagged crater]

2 korean upsets in one day? what a time

[balmy wolf]

LETS GIVE THE KOREANS ANOTHER 5-1

[orchid herald]

NY TAKE MY ENERGYYY

[balmy wolf]

We're on the weirdest timeline

[orchid herald]

REEEEEEE

[minor ingot]

he just does the fat 1 2 0 damage per hit while not getting killed

[balmy wolf]

Is Korea being nerfed?

[quasi stump]

I can't believe what I'm watching

[heady idol]

seriously, is Twitch looking like laggy shit to them?

[spring lintel]

I am nyxl fan but i am happy for this

[balmy wolf]

Two losses and a map lost to Shangai

[orchid herald]

ny is throwing tbh

[rustic plaza]

im gonna kms

[orchid herald]

no pine on tiebreaker

[thick canopy]

INSANE

fusion is taking this

[spring lintel]

You are watching sdb hard carrying

[orchid herald]

^

[thick canopy]

holy shit

not putting pine

[worn falcon]

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TODAY

[slim summit]

guys

[worn falcon]

[slim summit]

earlier today

[thick canopy]

he would of downed that pharah

[balmy wolf]

I thought that was going to be a huge barrage

[orchid herald]

NY

[slim summit]

i literally said that there were no interesting matches today

[thick canopy]

faster than korean fried chicken

[heady idol]

gg

[orchid herald]

COME ON

[rustic perch]

TONIGHT THE KOREANS ARE FALLING GUYS

[quasi stump]

SHADOWBURRRNNNNNN

[midnight tiger]

dude that is some sick pharah play

[slim summit]

and today is the most interesting day in OWL history

[idle kiln]

holy crap

[balmy wolf]

78%

HOLY SHIT

[minor ingot]

boombox already on 33%

[pearl cedar]

this is sooo messy omgg

i love it!

[balmy wolf]

THIS IS GOING TO THE BOOKS

[orchid herald]

NEW YORK NEW YORK NEW YORK NEW YORK

[spring lintel]

Sdb just carrying on the highest lvl of play

[idle kiln]

are we witnessing one of the "true" western teams actually beat one of the SK teams

[orchid herald]

NEW YORK

[idle kiln]

mad hype

[jagged crater]

is this happenin today

[orchid herald]

NEW YORK

[surreal prism]

YES

[orchid herald]

COME ON WE GOT THAI

[balmy wolf]

@idle kiln Boston already beat spitfire

Shiiiiit

[heady idol]

Libero!

[wooden hull]

Libero is god

[rustic perch]

[balmy wolf]

bigger upset

[spring lintel]

They kill sdb they win

[surreal prism]

CMON

[orchid herald]

COMEBACK

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[idle kiln]

i believe philly

[pearl cedar]

Libero damn

[minor ingot]

boombox got ult again

[balmy wolf]

Nah

[minor ingot]

lmao

[orchid herald]

OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU

[minor ingot]

mercy

[wooden hull]

Idk wwhy the played soldier

[spring lintel]

Libero just had better look on sdb

[balmy wolf]

Boombox is gonna get valk first

[night thunder]

im goinna go cry

for a while

[balmy wolf]

NAN???

[night thunder]

see you guys

[balmy wolf]

NANI?!

[jagged crater]

philly got carpe, aint a true western team yet

[night thunder]

RIP NYXL

[rustic perch]

[surreal prism]

did that bomb just get eaten

[slim summit]

eaten pulse

[surreal prism]

by dva

[orchid herald]

philly is carried by sdb

[wooden hull]

Sbb is shitty wtf man

[rustic perch]

[idle kiln]

S P I C Y

[spring lintel]

Philly hard carried by sdb but they are trying to shut him down

[slim summit]

holy f

[balmy wolf]

HOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOO

HOLY SHIT

[idle kiln]

S P I C Y A S F U C K

[orchid herald]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[balmy wolf]

LETS GO

LETSG OOOOOOOOOOOO

OMG

[spring lintel]

OMG neptuni

[balmy wolf]

IM GONNA DIE

[dusky canopy]

IT'S HAPPENING

[surreal prism]

NO

FUCK

[balmy wolf]

OF A HEART ATTACk

ITS HAPPENING

[orchid herald]

OOOFIFOOFODIFIF

[balmy wolf]

ITS AABL^KG]

[heady idol]

nuts

[serene tendon]

YESSSSSSSS PHILLLLLYYYYYYYY

[idle kiln]

ITS HAPPENED OMG

[orchid herald]

PLS

[balmy wolf]

KJAHKJAHN^GKHJGK

2 undefeated korean teams lose in a row to upset

[midnight tiger]

woooow

[worn falcon]

WTF!

[wooden hull]

HAHAHAAHAHHA

[orchid herald]

JRNRNRJEKEKSKAKSKFKRNRJRJ

[balmy wolf]

wtf

[AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sinful heron]

[rustic perch]

YES

[orchid herald]

NIOOOOOOOOOO

[quasi thistle]

koreans are falling

[balmy wolf]

both undefeated korean teams lost LOL

[icy birch]

WAAAAAAT

[orchid herald]

NY WHY WOULD YOU THROW THAT

[slim summit]

what the fuck

[surreal prism]

wdamkl;WFnljkwaf

[slim summit]

just happened

[pearl cedar]

LETS GOO

[idle kiln]

THE WEST STILL STANDS A CHANCE

[rustic plaza]

welp

[spring lintel]

They are thanking sdb for the carry

[surreal prism]

time to die

[idle kiln]

GODDAMN

[balmy wolf]

**USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA **

[rustic plaza]

time to throw away my korean blood

[torpid charm]

BYE NYE

[rustic plaza]

anyone want it?

[quasi stump]

PHILLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

LATER XL

[balmy wolf]

Seoul YOU'RE NEXT

[surreal prism]

no ones gonna beat seoul

[quasi stump]

PEACE

[balmy wolf]

Shanghai gonna beat Seoul

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

[orchid herald]

watch

[surreal prism]

actually

[torpid charm]

[mellow dew]

WHAT IS THIS DAY?

[surreal prism]

nyxl is gonna beat seoul tmrw

[torpid charm]

KOREAN NUMBER 2

[orchid herald]

ny is just making it look like they’re bad

[surreal prism]

calling it

[thick canopy]

HOLY FUCK

[rustic perch]

THIS DAY WILL BE REMEMBERED AS KOREAN DOOMSDAY

[orchid herald]

then stomp seoul

[idle beacon]

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

[thick canopy]

IM LEAKING

[spring lintel]

Feelsbadman

[quasi stump]

[balmy wolf]

IM HYPERVENTILATING

[rustic plaza]

idk why they wanted to run soldier dive there

made no sense

[orchid herald]

^

[idle kiln]

POWER RANKING PREDICTIONS OUT THE WINDOW

[tall sentinel]

[orchid herald]

They were throwing

[spring lintel]

For possible phara

[full lion]

How up holding baaaam

[worn falcon]

Oh my fucking shit

[rustic plaza]

they just dumb

[thick canopy]

powerranking CURSE BOIIIIS

[minor ingot]

i just want mercy out of the game tbh

[worn falcon]

today is pure madness

[wooden hull]

NYXL better than SEOUL? LUL

[rustic plaza]

just take the pharah battle or commit with genji

[spring lintel]

Libero cant play mccree so they play him on soldier

[balmy wolf]

YEAH IM FUCKING SEEING IT

[idle kiln]

NY is unorganized af lol

[spring lintel]

To pressure phara

[orchid herald]

Philly fusion more like shadowburn

[balmy wolf]

NYXL has better dps than seoul

[slim summit]

does this mean that Florida is going to beat Houston???????

[rustic plaza]

they dont need to

[balmy wolf]

but their tanks and healers are not as good

[idle kiln]

they get players picked so often

[spring lintel]

It was just in case

[rustic plaza]

just have meko on him

[spring lintel]

On first push

[orchid herald]

Ny threw dude

[thick canopy]

tbh pine would of destroyed SB on his pharah noooo???

[vapid herald]

My heart hurts

[orchid herald]

No pine on control

[rustic plaza]

no

u cant run pine

on lijiang

lul

[spring lintel]

A good phara isnt counter-able by a dva

[balmy wolf]

they wanted libero for lijiang volks

since its a pharah map

[full lion]

Here come the excuses

[balmy wolf]

My head hurts

How did this even happen

pine doesnt play much pharah

[worn falcon]

[balmy wolf]

It's the KOREAN APOCALYPSE

[spring lintel]

Pine was underperforming and they need to make the subs before the game starts

[orchid herald]

that’s true

[balmy wolf]

pine also was playing badly

[orchid herald]

FeelsBadMan

[balmy wolf]

on illios

[idle kiln]

i think what that was was a bunch of unorganized super skilled players losing to a bunch of organized skilled players

[balmy wolf]

🇺🇸 > 🇰🇷

[limber pine]

what an odd day

[shell rose]

libero should have played pharah from the start

[balmy wolf]

**USA USA USA USA USA **

[surreal prism]

i rlly dont get how nyxl didnt win dorado

[spring lintel]

FUCK GET ME FLOWER INSTEAD OF LIBERO TRASH ALREADY

[orchid herald]

then again the NYXL players said themselves that there’s no gap between Korea and the west

[shell rose]

philly doesn’t even have that many american players

[vapid herald]

Yeah I can’t wait for flower to be in

[shell rose]

neither do boston

[spring lintel]

Sdb solo carrying these newbs

[balmy wolf]

FAZE SHADOWBURN HERE TO TAKE YOUR SUPPORTS TO THE GRAVE WITH THE BIG ASS SWORD

[orchid herald]

As soon as shadowburn died

[full lion]

juicy excuses

[orchid herald]

They won the fight

[rustic plaza]

nyxl was garbage

enough said

[shell rose]

sb carried w the 5k

[balmy wolf]

[rustic plaza]

fusion played nutty

[thick canopy]

Mayhem upset Houston for the LOLZ now??

[orchid herald]

You know what

[vapid herald]

Really good game though

[orchid herald]

I’ll take it

[spring lintel]

And nyxl were underperforming other than sbb trying to carry

[vapid herald]

I’m not mad

[orchid herald]

I’m salty af rn

[balmy wolf]

now we just need to beat seoul

[orchid herald]

But it’s fine gg

[balmy wolf]

@thick canopy

pls no

[jagged crater]

sdb was a tf2 soldier player, projectiles are his specialty

[rustic plaza]

im salty

[idle beacon]

@spring lintel sbd and carpe are doing their job freakin well .. with an awesome team in their back .. dunno what you're on about

[balmy wolf]

We had enough

IF Mayhem wins

[torpid charm]

KOREA HAS FALLAN

[dusk garden]

wait

[balmy wolf]

Today wiwll be officially named as Underdog Dday

[torpid charm]

KOREA NUMBER 2

[dusk garden]

did philly beat ny

[surreal prism]

yeah no seoul is still gonna win

[balmy wolf]

YES

THEY FUCKING DID

[dusk garden]

WHAT

REALLY

[balmy wolf]

yes

[orchid herald]

Yeah philly won 3-2 after ny threw

[rustic plaza]

korea still tops the leaderboard

[dusk garden]

NO JK?

[spring lintel]

Nyxl under preforming and philly played well

[rustic plaza]

so smd

[balmy wolf]

THE KOREAN APOCALYPSE IS UPON US

[rustic plaza]

na monkeys

[balmy wolf]

boston beat london philly beat ny

DOUBLE UPSET

2 korean bosses down

1 to go

[minor ingot]

the actual korean team hasnt gone down yet

[dusk garden]

FUCK YES

[full lion]

there is hope for owl actually being interesting

[orchid herald]

wait

[surreal prism]

just bc they lost one game doesnt mean theyre down

[orchid herald]

waitwaitwait

[dusk garden]

CHINA NUMBA 1 KOREA NUMBA 2

[balmy wolf]

ITS A MATTER OF TIME.

[jagged crater]

watch nyxl beat seoul and the whole power rankings are in disarray

[minor ingot]

and seoul vs ny is just gonna be korea vs korea so yeah

[orchid herald]

does Korea go down if ny beats Seoul?

[minor ingot]

no

[balmy wolf]

ny is korea

[full lion]

yes

[balmy wolf]

so

Nah they just become stronger

[full lion]

seoul is the most korean

[surreal prism]

technically

[orchid herald]

If NY goes 3-2 with fusion

[balmy wolf]

spitfire has players that beat seoul in korean tournament

[orchid herald]

And then beats seoul

[minor ingot]

notice how you cant hit mercy at all in valk

[balmy wolf]

spitfire has a chance to beat seoul

[spring lintel]

All teams are still practicing, nothing in stone. Specially when we saw dragons.

[orchid herald]

But then seoul beats philyl

Who’s the best?

[young mortar]

Boston

[rustic plaza]

gc busan vs lunatic hai

[spring lintel]

For now it’s seoul

[dusk garden]

guys seoul is already dead they lost a map to shanghai

[rustic plaza]

when lunatic hai had shitty dps

LUL

[spring lintel]

But seoul has not been tested

[orchid herald]

Lmao

[spring lintel]

They struggled against DF

[orchid herald]

Seoul lost map to Shanghai yet Houston went 4-0

[minor ingot]

fleta, zunba and kuki werent playing

[spring lintel]

Everything is fucked up now

[balmy wolf]

If Outlaws lose today is officially marked as Underdog Day

BOSTON BEAT LONDON

THE BOSTON TEA PARTY

[minor ingot]

xepher was shit

[balmy wolf]

ACTYUALLY HAPPENED

[surreal prism]

wtf

carpe

seriously

[rustic plaza]

xepher is garbage

[spring lintel]

Wtf

[balmy wolf]

THEN NY GETS REKT BY PHILLY

[rustic plaza]

and has been garbage

forever

[spring lintel]

Sdb carried them

[orchid herald]

^

[wooden hull]

Xepher useless

[surreal prism]

ny didnt get rekt by philly tho

[rustic plaza]

carpe is nuts

[orchid herald]

Also don’t say rekt if it went 3-2

[spring lintel]

The only reason they won

[rustic plaza]

i think ur forgetting

[minor ingot]

idk why xepher is on seoul

[surreal prism]

they lost

they didnt get rekt

[rustic plaza]

hey

[spring lintel]

He is good but the only reason they won were sdb plays

[rustic plaza]

i was born in seoul

[balmy wolf]

SDB had big blades but Carpe was consistent

[rustic plaza]

at least THEY havent lost yet

[full lion]

is anyone here capable of not speaking hyperbolically

[orchid herald]

As soon as ShaDowBurn died

[wooden hull]

Sbb played badly

[orchid herald]

THe fight was instantly won

[surreal prism]

yup

sdb deserved player of the match

[slim summit]

yeah sbb losing duels to carpe is a bad deal

[torpid charm]

I love being a Philadelphia fan

[surreal prism]

his pharah when them lijiang

[wooden hull]

Yeah on tracer useless alaways dying

[surreal prism]

won

[slim summit]

i hate being a london fan

[spring lintel]

Look, nyxl kills the mercy , sdb solo ults and get both supports. Literally the only reason they could hold that

[slim summit]

should i switch to philly?

[torpid charm]

Fusion forever

[spring lintel]

Sdb carried the last fight too

[torpid charm]

@slim summit YES

[surreal prism]

no

[vapid herald]

I love all the teams. But I care so little for the mayhem

[rustic plaza]

meko sucks

janus was never a star player

[dusk garden]

"pine"

[rustic plaza]

bdosin is meh

libero was always a jack of all trades

[spring lintel]

Sdb got so many early picks on anubis to win them the match

[rustic plaza]

sbb is good

ark is ok

[torpid charm]

yeah without Shadowburn on that Pharah we could've got fucked

[rustic plaza]

i love ark so i cant be unbiased

[spring lintel]

Without sdb philly wouldnt have won.

[minor ingot]

they shouldve just had the kongdoo roster

like wakawaka

[full lion]

yes sdb 1v6'd nyxl himself and won

lulWut

[minor ingot]

sad hes not in OWL tho

[spring lintel]

Valk economy is just luck

They get low and survive luckily

[slim summit]

according to the elo model i've been working on
boston had a 29.67% chance of winning
and philadelphia had a 27.96% chance of winning

[idle beacon]

and seoul will lose against london tomorrow 😃

[spring lintel]

Nyxl vs seoul tmw

[balmy wolf]

we all know seoul won the OWL

[minor ingot]

seoul isnt playing london tmr are you retarded

[balmy wolf]

Seoul 3-1'd NY in pre season

seoul most likely willwin

[spring lintel]

Nyxl playing 2 games tmw

[forest wharf]

Shiiiieeeeetttt just got home and caught up, double korean losses today

[spring lintel]

Nvm

[idle beacon]

@minor ingot

SEO     0     0     NYE

[balmy wolf]

Seoul wins tomorrow.

Already decided

[spring lintel]

Dude i hate this, they are all inconsistent

[surreal prism]

i mean

[spring lintel]

Is it because of meta

[slim summit]

we were getting 4-0s every match for weeks

[wooden hull]

Seoul, london nyxl

[slim summit]

now we got a couple upsets

but it isn't necessarily a trend

just two upsets

[rustic plaza]

meta is pretty aids

[spring lintel]

^

[surreal prism]

nyxl probably focused too much on the seoul fight like they said at the beginning which caused them to lose to philly

so they could beat seoul

[minor ingot]

ah i cant put in photos

@idle beacon "and seoul will lose against london tomorrow 😃"

i know seoul is playing ny tmr

[spring lintel]

They should play good if they are getting ready for seoul

[rustic plaza]

dude i love overbuff

makes me look like a god

[balmy wolf]

Philly had a rough start to the season

[rustic plaza]

LUL

[minor ingot]

why the fuck are you saying they're gonna lose to london tmr

[idle beacon]

@minor ingot why wouldn't they?

[surreal prism]

well i mean they focused specifically on seoul and their players

[minor ingot]

FIRST OF ALL

they're not playing tmr

[rustic plaza]

mendo or riot

[spring lintel]

Dude, all of seoul next matches are real tests

[rustic plaza]

my fav weeb

[minor ingot]

and lunatic hai has been kongdoo panthera and now they have better dps

[torpid charm]

gr8 day to be a Fusion fan

[balmy wolf]

is mendo 18

[minor ingot]

beaten*

[spring lintel]

Seoul honestly are yet to be tested

[slim summit]

Florida has a higher chance of beating Houston than either Boston or Philly had of winning

[balmy wolf]

Fusion had such a big upset

[slim summit]

according to this model

[balmy wolf]

great game

[minor ingot]

where are you pulling these statistics from @slim summit '

[silk merlin]

philly can lose to dragons tomorrow )

[minor ingot]

which 'model

'

[slim summit]

it's just elo with a k value of 25

[full lion]

these upsets should've come last week when viewership was higher

[slim summit]

wrote it out in js

[balmy wolf]

Dragons hasn't won a game have they

[spring lintel]

Sdb is my genji idol

[balmy wolf]

neither has dallas

[spring lintel]

He will carry them

[balmy wolf]

or did dallas wino ne

[rustic plaza]

i should be your genji idol

rEE

[fast island]

What a PogChamp day

[minor ingot]

shanghai is now doing better than dallas

lmao

[rustic plaza]

its a kms type of day

[balmy wolf]

ye

dallas is worst team

rn

in standings

[fast island]

Dallas is the worst team

[balmy wolf]

on first day of OWL they were called best western team'

[dusk garden]

Y NO MENDO

[balmy wolf]

LUL

[manic cypress]

Dragons is below Fuel

[slim summit]

Shanghai is beating Dallas but also ... London is ranked 1

[balmy wolf]

Shanghai has more map wins than dallas I think

[slim summit]

when Dallas & Seoul get to play that will stop being true 😛

[balmy wolf]

dont they

[dusk garden]

Y NO MENDO

HUSTON

Y

[manic cypress]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/standings

[minor ingot]

shanghai has 5 losses that why they're last rn but when dallas get 5-0'd

[balmy wolf]

oh

[minor ingot]

shanghai will be on top

[dusk garden]

ME WANT MENDo

[minor ingot]

since they've taken more maps

[dusk garden]

GIMME GIMME

MENDO

[manic cypress]

All KR teams are still at the top3 lol

[dusk garden]

HUSTON

[slim summit]

Official standings are only updated once a week

[idle kiln]

how on earth is dallas worse right now?

[fast island]

They'll be last by the end of the week

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[idle kiln]

shanghai has one 1 map

[slim summit]

(because otherwise teams have played a different number of matches)

[idle kiln]

dallas has way more than that

altho they havent won full games

[fast island]

Dallas has 2 lul

[spring lintel]

This day will be remembered in history

[dusk garden]

MCDONALDS

[idle kiln]

also while shanghai did amazing yesterday we have to acknowledge that seoul brought nowhere NEAR their full strength

[minor ingot]

shanghai has 2 maps

1 vs SFS and 1 vs SD

[orchid herald]

wtf is the power circle

[minor ingot]

same as dallas i guess

[orchid herald]

ny 3-1s boston

[idle kiln]

hopefully its a sign of improvement, but it doesnt mean shanghai is anywhere near competing with seoul yet

[orchid herald]

who 3-2s spitfire

who 3-2s valiant

[minor ingot]

shanghai would be one of the best if they had the miraculous youngsters roster

[orchid herald]

who 3-2s gladiators

Who 3-2s philly

who3-2d ny

[minor ingot]

shanghai only has the MY coach but no players

[orchid herald]

After ny 4-0d gladiators

???????

[spring lintel]

You can’t tell anything at this point

Everyone is inconsistent

[full lion]

just embrace the fact that games aren't 100% predictable anymore

[orchid herald]

^

[full lion]

its great

[manic cypress]

yeah

[spring lintel]

And changing because they take this league seriously

[fast island]

Korea is no longer the overlord

[idle kiln]

inconsistency is expected, most of these teams have only been playing together for like 2 months now lmao

[minor ingot]

games arent predictable because of mercy

[manic cypress]

Nothing is set in stone, or else Fuel wouldn't be doing this bad lol

[orchid herald]

There isn’t a power gap between the players as NY said

[minor ingot]

mercy gets ult charge so fast

and turns the teamfight completely

[spring lintel]

^

[idle kiln]

only teams taht were basically poached APEX teams have more experience together

[spring lintel]

Cant wait for the next stage

[minor ingot]

and she doesnt get picked off unless there's a junkrat tire since she has a lot of mobility and regen in valk

[orchid herald]

To be honest

I’m just glad not all the games are stomps anymore

[spring lintel]

I am so hyped for contenders

[idle kiln]

THIRD UPSET HERE WE GO

[spring lintel]

I am betting after owl’s success we will see so many players comin

[orchid herald]

They plan on bringing more European teams in for season 2

[minor ingot]

there are 2 things i want that would make OWL better

mercy dead

and more maps

APEX system worked

[orchid herald]

Each stage has a specific map pool

[minor ingot]

watching horizon and junkertown and numbani everytime is boring as fuck

yeah i know

[idle kiln]

@orchid herald by that do you mean more franchised teams or just more players to add to the exsiting teams

[minor ingot]

but in APEX

[orchid herald]

That’s why we keep seeing junkertown and horizon and Anubis and numbani

[minor ingot]

losers choose maps

[orchid herald]

More franchised teams

[minor ingot]

bro

i know the system

im saying

they should've used the APEX system

[idle kiln]

i think if they want to create local scenes then they definitely need more franchises in asia and europe yeah

[minor ingot]

rn a lot of people are angry because they keep seeing the same maps

[idle kiln]

in US they can travel to another US city easily to compete

[balmy wolf]

omae

[orchid herald]

I just realized what your pic is @minor ingot and I almost spat out my water

[idle kiln]

but in asia tehres only 2 places

and in europ literally 1

[minor ingot]

oui

not sure if anyone gets my name pun either but yeah

anyway

as someone that hates seeing the same maps

and many other people think the same

[balmy wolf]

oh the match is just starting

[torpid charm]

y'all seen London's tweet, lol

[minor ingot]

there was a vote that 2500 people participated in and 71% said that the repeated maps are boring

[serene tendon]

jakes phara is so lame

[balmy wolf]

pharah got rekted

[idle kiln]

i mean hey if sports like football can use the same "map" for decades

[slim summit]

lol

[idle kiln]

i think as long as these teams can be innovative it can be fun

[serene tendon]

c9 lul

[minor ingot]

heres the thing

certain strats work for certain maps

[balmy wolf]

c9 is a bad org

[minor ingot]

thats why you only see ana on numbani instead of junkertown or horizon

[balmy wolf]

C9

they are so shady

[idle kiln]

yeah thats the problem that i had with OWL when i first heard about it a long time ago

[slim summit]

are they not allowed to say c9

[idle kiln]

the metas in OW are way too concrete

especially when comparted to other games like CSGO and LoL

[wooden hull]

Jake hahah

[slim summit]

i think being able to easily swap heroes with no cost is part of the reason

[idle kiln]

luckily this mercy meta as cancer as it is actually allows for more interesting comps but

[wooden hull]

The tchat ahah

[minor ingot]

you are comparing a game with 26 different characters that do different things to football where there are 3 roles that arent that much different from each other

if overwatch had less diversity

less maps would be acceptable

like csgo

[idle kiln]

or a fuckton more diversity

like lol

[minor ingot]

everyone is able to be on equal ground

csgo requires more mechanical skill but not as much teamwork

while overwatch is the opposite

[idle kiln]

i mean thats a fair comment about the game

[minor ingot]

although csgo still requires a lot of teamwork

[idle kiln]

the question is tho is it fun to watch

[minor ingot]

just not as much as overwatch

any game that has different 'roles'

will require more teamwork than a fps game like counter strike

since if one role dont do their job properly then everything falls apart

[idle kiln]

OW is at no fault for making that the core of their game, but the thing about OWL is that they have to figure out a way to make it fun to watch

[dusk garden]

mans on fire, but mans not hot

[minor ingot]

it'd be more fun to watch with more maps

[slim summit]

jake is someone i consider very hot

[idle kiln]

that was a really clean underpass for numbani

[slim summit]

and cold on genji

[minor ingot]

you see the same shit every time

[grizzled mulch]

it is a map pool

so that teams have limited pool to prepare

[minor ingot]

would you rather see g2 play dust 2 every match in 5 matches or would you want to see them play maps like cobblestone or ingferno

the thing is

these people are pros

[wooden hull]

Jake lol

[minor ingot]

they have experience on all maps

[grizzled mulch]

....CSGO only have 7 maps, what do you mean

[wooden hull]

HAHAHA

[minor ingot]

because they are forced to

since you cant choose what map to play on in comp or qp

[grizzled mulch]

and you severely underestimated the amount of preparation went into just a map

[minor ingot]

i realise that all maps are made from scratch

[grizzled mulch]

people plays on them all the time but it doesn't mean they truly master it

...........not that

[fast island]

Jake's ult is the biggest I've seen

[minor ingot]

no my point rn is

[grizzled mulch]

preparation = team preparation/strategy/set plays etc etc

[minor ingot]

some teams are at an unfair advantage

because they are better at that map than others

[grizzled mulch]

wdym at an unfair advantage? Everyone have the same pool.

hello?

[slim summit]

what's up with that guy's monitor posture

[minor ingot]

seoul (lunatic hai) doesnt do well on horizon and junkertown

[grizzled mulch]

and they have a 12 men roster

it is their onus to be able to prepare

[minor ingot]

and they're above average at numbani

whilst they had a 100% winrate on gibralter

but they're unable to play that

because of the map pool

they're good on oasis and ilios

if a team doesnt do as well on 3 maps while the other team is better than them on those 3 maps

then they are at an advantage

its gonna happen in whichever stage gibralter is in

[jovial jewel]

hol up

[minor ingot]

seoul

[jovial jewel]

i just woke up

and i see

[minor ingot]

which is already strong

[jovial jewel]

3-2

boston uprising fucks spitfire?

[minor ingot]

is gonna dominate against teams that cant do well

[jovial jewel]

[serene tendon]

and philly bopped nyxl

[minor ingot]

nah its more like a tight match than "fucks"

[jovial jewel]

jesus christ spitfire

well still that might've been intersting to watch

i'll watch vods

[serene tendon]

what is houston doing

they deserve this for being so damn cocky

[slim summit]

it was terribly painful to watch

as a london supporter

[pearl cedar]

eh

for me it wasnt that bad a match being a neutral fan

i just scratch my head at them putting profit on the bench for 3 games

but they're probably playing the long haul to find out which players function well on these maps for the future

[quasi thistle]

common twitch chat

leave logix alone

[fluid furnace]

twitch chat is toxic af :x

jees linkzr's widow is on point

[quasi thistle]

jesus christ

so many close games today that were but clenching

but this is just as entertaining coz linkzr

[balmy wolf]

I think he's probably the best western widow

[quasi thistle]

^

[dusk garden]

no

mendo

huston

pls

gimme gimme

[fluid furnace]

lol i too want to see mendo

[balmy wolf]

Is mendo still sick@

[fluid furnace]

not sure, i haven't caught his stream in awhile

[dusk garden]

wait mendo is sick?

[balmy wolf]

He was sick at start of the season iirc

[dusk garden]

fs i just wanna see mendo play

[quartz junco]

I always think widow has her ult up when im watching a match where someone is playing her

[slim summit]

lol manneten alomst demech'd himself

[fluid furnace]

nice save

[balmy wolf]

Jakerat

[torpid charm]

can someone please fill me in on how the game is going right now

[wooden hull]

Mayhem...

[fluid furnace]

yeah i was hoping they'd put up more of a challenge

[torpid charm]

when Philly beats NY, I am so proud of my boys

[wooden hull]

2 0 houston

[slim summit]

reverse sweep?

[fluid furnace]

haha no :Outlaws: :Outlaws: :Outlaws:

[balmy wolf]

we all are proud of philly

[fluid furnace]

philly did well

[silent crest]

PHILADELPHIA WON!?

😄

[fluid furnace]

yep

[silent crest]

YESSSSS

[balmy wolf]

Don't forget about baston

[silent crest]

oh i knew about that already

fck yeah

ffffuuuu

i missed out on an amazing series

[north tendon]

carpe is just a fucking beast

props to fusion

still with nyxl

[fluid furnace]

sdburn too, though didn't anyone else think he holds his blades too long?

*did

haha yeah

[balmy wolf]

Mercy res bait is the best imo

lmao

2-2 vs 11-1

k one second I need to take the PogChimp icon

[fluid furnace]

hmm jake on tracer hmmm

[copper latch]

control point issues again, come on Houston.

[balmy wolf]

NA blade

[fluid furnace]

holy shit linkzr carried hard there

[balmy wolf]

HE ALREADY HAS ANOTHER??

[fluid furnace]

yep

[serene tendon]

whose commentating rn?

[copper latch]

did they just not want to give up the tracer ult by getting jake to switch?

[serene tendon]

thnks

[fluid furnace]

mumble idk, but mayhem should've had that really

[glacial sleet]

yo I didn't watch todays games but 2 korean teams lost wtf?

[balmy wolf]

Jakerat lol

[glacial sleet]

were boston and fusion that good?

[copper latch]

they were good games. nice upsets.

[fluid furnace]

yeah they were really good games to watch salt

[copper latch]

not like a great showing but they just fought for everything to win.

[glacial sleet]

better than yesterdays valiant vs gladiators?

that game had me on the edge

lmaao

[fluid furnace]

phwoar idk, i really liked that match

😃

[glacial sleet]

sucks for fuel

they are scond to last and everyone thought they would be good

[copper latch]

Mayhem has really been showing they are a great team lately. I wonder if the first games were just because they were sick like they talked about.

well they got a sign now to help with that 😋

[north tendon]

today was what owl needed

things are a lot more interesting now

but seoul needs to lose

[copper latch]

i was supprised by Shanghai taking a map from Seoul yesterday. it was kinda amazing

[north tendon]

well, seoul are getting pretty cocky

even ryu thinks they cant be beat

[fluid furnace]

it didn't even look like Seoul were trying vs the dragons

[north tendon]

I think they were trolling

or using subs

dragons needs some players from miraculous youngsters next stage

then things will get better

[glacial sleet]

how do you guys think nye vs sd will go tomrrow?

[north tendon]

that leave guy is a crazy dps/doomfist

[fluid furnace]

i think sd will blitz them

[jagged pecan]

NO FUCKING WAY

NYXL LOST?

[north tendon]

pine was in awful form today

I hope hes at peak for seoul

yeah

[jagged pecan]

looks literally cold in the studio as well

[north tendon]

plus when you face a monster like carpe thats played every game

you just get fucked

[jagged pecan]

they were using heat packs thing in the match no?

[glacial sleet]

no way dallas loses against sfs tomorrow, what do you guys think?

[north tendon]

its dallas

they might still lose

plus xqc banned

its messy

[glacial sleet]

they do well without xqc

[jagged pecan]

well after today's two matches i just know anything can happen LOL

[north tendon]

I think their roles are pretty mixed up

thats the issue

[glacial sleet]

yea

dallas can't play dive

[north tendon]

but hey they still got seagull on hanzo

lul

nothing as sick as that carpe pulse on valk

today's highlight by far

[fluid furnace]

that pulse was fucking sick!

[north tendon]

when tracer has wings

[fluid furnace]

-lol- indeed

[rare tangle]

poor florida

[copper latch]

damn good hooker

Houston really loves the last second take back on this first point. did the same thing to Dallas

[minor ingot]

why did they give junkrat 2 mines

he didnt need it did he?

[glacial sleet]

jakerat lmao

[minor ingot]

woah

linkzr clean today

[copper latch]

@minor ingot it was supposed to be for "mobility" but just kills everything now.

[fluid furnace]

that shot

daaamn

[minor ingot]

120 damage mine

"mobility"

[quasi thistle]

oh my

[copper latch]

i need that replay

[velvet scarab]

flat earth lol

[minor ingot]

good junkrats dont need mines to kill people, they would always have their mine as a reserve for escapes

[tough holly]

That Headshot at the end though

[glacial sleet]

linkzr is a god

[minor ingot]

linkzr really clean today

damn

[copper latch]

yeah he was in Jake's shadow but really starting to shine

[minor ingot]

damn jake arrogant

[serene tendon]

jake pls

stop

[minor ingot]

lmao

[serene tendon]

you won

stop talking

[minor ingot]

what can jake do apart from junkrat

oh i guess his soldier is alright

what else

[copper latch]

Genji was decent

[minor ingot]

i dont watch jake enough

[balmy wolf]

Ok after he said it's going to be a 4-0, I want glads to win

[copper latch]

He used to be a really good Pharah i dont know what happend. Maybe just not as good as some others in the league.

[serene tendon]

i feel like his junkrat made him worse at everyone else he plays

[minor ingot]

thats because junkrats dont aim

[serene tendon]

his phara has been terrible

[balmy wolf]

It's called junk being prominent in the meta rn

[glacial sleet]

his soldier was good

[minor ingot]

junkrat was fine after the patch where he doesnt take damage from his grenades

he really didnt need the 2nd mine

[copper latch]

well it brought him into the meta, before he was never really used

[minor ingot]

tbh seoul dynasty is just memeing jake

and houston

[copper latch]

small thing, i would hate to be in chat with him chewing that gum every game

[balmy wolf]

Wait who doesn't respect Jake?

[copper latch]

jake "game sense"

[balmy wolf]

Like he is the most charismatic person on his team

[minor ingot]

apparently chewing gum calms people because the brain thinks that if you're eating you wouldnt be nervous or in danger

[full lion]

the many casuals that make up the ow community

[minor ingot]

so him chewing gum makes sense

[atomic quarry]

It's caffeine gum too.

[minor ingot]

g up for tmr

[copper latch]

God i do love Mayham for their intros.

[minor ingot]

i reckon tmr seoul will beat ny 3-1 or 3-2

if they use jehong, tobi, fleta, munchkin, kuku and zunba

they should be all good

same here lol

i even went to korea to watch APEX season 3

[thorn forum]

my god i missed it

fuck

omg boston won!

FUUUCKKKKK

im issed the games i totally forgot

[minor ingot]

the best overwatch match in history was Lunatic-hai vs Kongdoo Panthera you guys should watch it

it was insane

i was sitting there on edge the entire time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxWX4z0XEek

if u cant be bothered to watch the whole thing, just watch the highlights part

its still cool to look at

starts at 4:38:06

[glacial sleet]

is shadowburn still the top genji player to watch for?

[grizzled mulch]

yes?

[glacial sleet]

I remember him being the best genji in 2016 but is that still true today

[minor ingot]

hes still good

but there are better players

[grizzled mulch]

he literally just solo carry Fusion the other day

he is still top tier

https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtisticTenderGoldfishNononoCat

[minor ingot]

yeah but there are better genji players

like haksal, whoru, rascal

[grizzled mulch]

define "better"

[pearl stratus]

Shadowburn may not be the best Genji in the world, but he's consistently world tier on him.

And can multi-task to other heroes with that same level of dangerousness.

That's Shadowburns strength.

Either way tonight was a really great night of matches.

[minor ingot]

more consistency, better mechanical skill and better team player

whoru has excellent teamwork with lunatic hai (seoul dynasty) and is better mechanically

shadowburn is mechanically good but teamwork wise is average

[pearl stratus]

I feel Shadowburn clicks where he is right now.

But I do agree on previous teams it wasn't so great.

[grizzled mulch]

I mean

WhoRU's almost a Genji one trick at this point

same with Haksal

and mechanical skill and team players are kind of subjective to opinion

[warm raptor]

No?

Its easy to tell who is good and who is bad

The difference between really good and the best though, that's all down to teamwork not just mechanical

[grizzled mulch]

it is not, trust me.

for example someone can looked really good but going up against inferior oppositions

or someone can looked bad but they went up against really good opponents

you need a lot of long term data to determine who's what

for example Linkzr/JAKE are getting a lot of praise in Houston

but their schedule post Fusion has included SHD, Florida and a Dallas who literally just showed up to die.

Would they keep up the level of play vs GLA?

[minor ingot]

a headshot is a headshot

doesnt matter

and you call haksal and whoru genji one tricks

sdb is really good at anything else either

its so ironic

[grizzled mulch]

have you seen his Pharah?

🤔

[minor ingot]

i was watching him vs nyxl today

its called

no one else was paying attention

so he just fired rockets and dealt damage

[grizzled mulch]

..........his Pharah was known way back

what do you mean now?

[minor ingot]

im not talking about way back

him vs ny wasnt way back was it

doesnt fucking matter whats in the past

[grizzled mulch]

and he was always known to be a solid projectile player that can both play Genji and Pharah to a high level

as well as Junkrat when needed.

[minor ingot]

anyone can play junkrat

[grizzled mulch]

no....???

[wooden hull]

Whoru tracer vs soon, no matchup in apex, whoru fucked him up, whoru is a versatile player, haksal not very

[minor ingot]

my 3 year old nephew can probably get an ace firing junkrat grenades

[wooden hull]

Really*

[minor ingot]

but the thing is

have you watched APEX

you can clearly tell whoru is mechanically better and has better teamwork

[grizzled mulch]

didnt you just said that doesn't fucking matter what's in the past?

[wooden hull]

Do you want a guy who is really really good in a meta or a guy really good but in every meta?

[grizzled mulch]

the later.

[minor ingot]

whoru can flex more

gido hasnt played much in OWL rn but he's a really good flex with nice tracer skills

[grizzled mulch]

i mean if WhoRU has better teamworks he wouldn't get shove into the doghouse

but I digress.

[minor ingot]

whoru cant play in OWL yet because of his age

hes 16

[wooden hull]

I really don't like jake

Whoru is too young

[minor ingot]

he has a spot reserved for seoul dynasty for when he turns 18