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london sticking to their c9 roots
hes on sombra
effect mickie seems happy
Against outlaws: total upset
smiley mickie
Against Korean teams: 2-1
for both times
????
Are they just better against korea or something
they 2-1 best teams
because they're not bad... just shotcalling needs work/consistency
no xqc and theyre actually winning,

WONDER WHY
then gets demolished by most cockiest team

LMAO
so it's either 2-1 or 3-1 right?
Yep
Either way london won
rolled
3-1
The only thing Dallas can do is spit in London's face.
Rip

oh shit
3-1
rip
lul
riiip
GG!
gg
gg no re
haHAA
HMM OK
At long last I can sleep
so Dallas worst team? LOL
yeah, better than 3-0
next game 2-0
Become a Mercy main
2nd worst
GUYS
VICTORY 
has SHD win a game yet
good game
ggs
at keast theyre not shanghai
no
GG korea spitfire
a set
guys inb4 SHD 4-0 fuel
MAYHEM NOW OFFICIALLY ABOVE FULE IN STANDINGS

@copper geyserGeo they've taken 1 map so far
Dallas now won 1 map vs 0 SHD
Time for Dallas to break up
Fuel won Junker vs Dynasty
How about put Seagull back in the game
tru

🤔 They won the map with him
it's because seagull is a ray of positivity
coincidence or not?
tire so dank
so how long till next game?
how long until SHD vs. Fuel?
that's it for tonight @marsh pumice
that's going to be the match of the year
next match is LA-London in how many hours?
why is mccree a more popular pick than soldier
Feb 7 is SHD vs Fuel
control your memes. fuel beats dragons easily

@balmy wolf Silly damage
Dallas needs to just break up lol
that would be the biggest meme of 2018
13 hrs
@balmy wolf Well firstly a lot of players in the OWL have cree as their favorite hero since he was super strong when they started the game, but they pick him for antidive/peeling for the supports
okis ty
Everyone thought Fuel vs VAL would be an easy win for Fuel 
13hrs is a lot
If you have a mccree, the enemy tracer has to be careful where she goes
if the cree is near the supports, tracer has trouble going in for them
Okay everyone, I'm falling asleep in my chair. Hope everyone has a great night
they shouldnt be here
i see thanks!
valiant vs spitfire should be pretty good
@wide basin night
Standings are in the pins
or even Seoul vs NY
NYXL vs Dynasty guys, now that will be hype
Yeahh
Jan 26 NYXL vs Dynasty
Wednesday, February 7th people mark it down
I'm hoping Korea loses to Korea
SHD vs. Fuel

THIS WILL BE THE MATCH OF THE CENTURY
Fuel will do the same
i just want korea to lose once
london vs seoul pls
and not to korea
in some weird twist i want Dragons to just beat fuel
Same
same lol
that would be the funniest shit ever
So far none of the korean teams have lost a game
only the koreans can beat the koreans
Cheer for SHD at all costs T-T
which is incredibly residentsleeper
Did it end 3-1?
yep
yes
Was numbani as stomp?
the end was a stomp
Dynasty is hyping up the Outlaws a lot so we'll see how they go 
o fuck tomorrow gonna be good
only reason why they got the one is because seagull and taimou were poppin off
los angeles better fucking come through
gonna watch a movie, see you guys later, remember be good or get recked like xqc.
Oh no D:
WTF
NYXL already put VAL in their place 
💀 👪
monkaS
With a smile on his face an everything
gonna be rooting so hard for
against my hometown team
NYXL was kinda like the underdog between the Korean teams 
Pine seems to have changed that
whoa
inb4 korea wins
fuel with the same record record as dragons, FEEELS BAD
FUEL BTW
what did we do to you?!
even shd would probably do well in ladder no?
just let seagull play godddamit
yea I just want to watch seagull
the thing is SHD would be moderately ok if the manager wasn't shit
you no life video games harder than everyone else. you must be defeated
SHD would be even better if they had the MY roster
yeah
the guy is corrupt as hell and makes them practice for extremely long hours
like 9 to 12 or something like that
who else is there
next weak Fuel has Shock and Uprising as opponents, they might get their first (2) wins !
diya is in SHD i guess
I personally don't think anyone can beat Dynasty this season 
inb4 fuel loses to uprising
They will win s1 imo
couldn't they have just forged their birth certificates or something
nah dude Dynasty v. Spitfire
shd is just embarassing
that's going to be the match
Dynasty with Fleta is scary
The first korean vs korean team is next week, it's gonna be a good one
weve seen that matchup
GC Busan vs Lunatic-Hai was a different story 
is it tho
but without jjonak
aye
jjonak one fo the best zens int he game, course you gotta see how it works with jjonak!
Jjonak is nutty
jesus fucking christ dynasty against shanghai on wed
i wanna see fleta vs pine on control map again
cuz fleta demolished pine in preseason
I'm just glad Shanghai actually looked a bit like a real team tonight.
It made me happy.
Jjonak vs Ryujehong Ana battles
I'm worried about those kids.
shanghai still lost to mayhem 0-4
idk
Yeah but it was a loss that actually looked like they were a team on.
T-T
Versus the last match.
dragons gonna get nuked
Where they just looked confused the entire time.
i'm putting my heart and soul into dragons man
I don't think Shanghai will do well either way, their roster screws them.
SHD vs Dynasty T-T they don't deserve it
But I don't want them to be broken.
meh
Shanghai, LAV, LAG etc have to at least put up a fight.
Or OWL is going to die super fast.
maybe the team manager wont be a dumbass next season and put a good team together
thats why im hoping one of the la teams beats korea
I'm hoping Houston keeps their upward trend too.
Why do Dallas and LA get 2 teams? Where is Seattle? Canada? Another European team?
i really hope this league goes big
I love the Koreans D:
it's seriously a lot mnore fun than actually playing the game for me lawl
Seattle is far from poor.
If you put upt he money, you got a team.
league only goes big if the non koreans get on the koreans level
havent even played the game since early december
They didn't.
2 maps in, 4 games?
Dallas is its own special mess.
Standings with full map score are in pins at all times, don't forget 👀
With a ton of issues.
yes
im watching seoul game
Dallas Fuel more like no fuel 
Ironically Dallas Fuel has won rounds against Korean teams.
Which most people don't.
It's super weird.
Dude it's EnvyUS
who did shanghai win a map on
Dallas Fuel for other team's ults.
they did moist in OGN and Contenders
Shock
Dallas Fuel's original roster is the only western team to win APEX
Oh..
Shanghai full held San Fran on HLC
OGN Apex
Dallas' 2 wins are against Seoul and London now, right?
fuel arguably had a tough opponents early on but vs outlaws it was very worrying
EnVy is the only western team to win a Korean tournament in Korea ever
In the history of esports
explain your football anaology
@jagged crater Dallas needs a roster wipe.
so if dallas cant beat uprising or shock next week, it's over
xQc being benched for the rest of Stage 1 will help them amazingly.
in all esports? not jsut overwatch?
I still can't get over the fact that Dallas Fuel and SHD have the exact same score right now
I think they mentioned that at APEX pbaff
Yeah, in all esports @full lion
team-based games, yes
dang
this is even more of a reason why the rest of the world needs to step the fuck up
huk also won in SC2
Dallas has a fucking amazing roster
well
they are just mucking around so hard
koreans just focus on games they like
One to one their players are great.
they suck at dota
When it comes to composition its not so much.
tho
yeah
yeah but if they tried they could be godly at it
i wonder how faker will do if he play dota....
Which is what I meant by a bad roster of good players.
why not
the chemistry is awful
It was nice to finally see Cocco stepping up on other tanks tonight.
thank god I didn't buy a dallas jersey before the season started 
I think if they bench Mickie a bit more, and focus on a Cocco / Taimou duo with Seagull/Effect dpsing.
They'd actually have a lot more success.
But they tend to need Mickie to run D'Va.
And it screws everything up.
Because Taimou ends up on Hog and Effect ends up basically solo dpsing, no matter how great a hog Taimou is.
Taimou and Effect worked really well together when they both ran double-DPS
Yeah this was almost the first time we've seen it though.
I haven't seen much in OWL of it
Normally Dallas ends up some amalgamation of a 3-1-2.
but they did it in OGN and Contenders all the time
2-2-2 they do well with.
But then that brings up the Taimou/Seagull issue.
Where they have literally 0 overlap.
So if you sub out Taimou for Seagull, you know exactly whats coming.
It's why I think the Cocco/Taimou/Seagull/Effect round went so well.
Why does taimou not just run dps
Because you had a LOT of options on the field.
and have an off-tank other than mickie
Mickie is too aggressive on D'va and it screws them
So Taimou ends up on Hog to compensate.
I like Mickie. I think his personality brings a lot to the table.
I think he's not quite an OWL D'Va yet.
And it shows.
We've also never seen Mickie play anything but D'va, and he's supposed to be a flex for them.
It's just all messed up for Dallas.
The one thing that Dallas did show tonight was one of, in my opinion, the Korean teams biggest weaknesses though.
mickie runs orisa
THANK GOD MAYHEM ISNT A THE LAST MEME WOOOO
cocco underperformed this game tbh
i believe in the dallas comeback
I always cringe when Florida dances onto the stage.
I'm sure Durex and Trojan love it, they probably get a 3% stock boost whenever people see Cwoosh danching.
damn, after looking at the records looks like guessing who will take second might be a fun game
we already know how last and first will be
I think Seoul could get upset.
London and NYXL both have good shots to beat them.
There's also another what.. 6 games each per team left for Stage 1, so who knows what'll happen.
I think as more teams start getting cohesive, which only happens from playing like this together, we'll start seeing closer stuff.
So dragons just confirmed they are planning on getting new players mid season
Thank god
Yeah they'll pick up some of the high ranking players.
Their team is made up of a pretty mid ranked team that the coach brought with him, it was nepotism. Not a smart move.
If they pick up a projectile dps/genji, another tank (though MG and Roshan actually worked well together tonight, for once), and someone to replace Altering it'd be huge.
dalllas wont beat dragons
ouch
@light hearth what happened to Puckett's family?
Please don't tag Blizzard employees @grizzled mulch
Bill and me are bros D:
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Not sure exactly he just mentioned being at a funeral tomorrow at the end of broadcast.
ah rip. Condolences to his family then.
Yah 
What happened to the fuel
Did we all just buy in to the hype and they were always shite or did they just have bad luck lately
Level of competition in OWL is a lot higher than something like Contenders, new players introduce a new dynamic to the team with subbing, and Fuel has never been able to truly play dive at the same level as the rest of the league @white dock
Is it just cause they’re not as good at dive or is there more to it
Cuz I saw some questionable teamwork
There's definitely issues with communication
Cocco has never been a Winston player on the level of other tank players, Mickie has struggled with D.va since the DM changes and Chips' Mercy, while serviceable, means he can't play Zen because Custa and Harry are both bad at her
They don’t utilize their players well I feel. xQcs Winston could have saved the day
Maybe even his Orissa
Even if he could help, constant subbing is one of their issues - they looked remarkably better today with the minimal subbing and keeping the OG EnVy roster, even though they did lose
And besides, xQc's suspended for the rest of the stage
I wasn’t speaking about today specifically but I also don’t recall them making subs during the Outlaws until after the 3 losses
I thought their issue was not switching up the line up enough?
Hmm
I’m an esports noob so
Against Outlaws they also weren't running Harryhook or Taimou until the final map
Exactly and they should have
If what pros have said is true, those two are integral to the team's communication
Rip
Dallas won Oasis
Yep
Against spitfire
And nearly tied Numbani
There is
When I saw xQc was banned all I could think was omae wa Mo shindeiru
Dafran is the new dafran
Lol
Custa can’t carry the team forever
I thought effect would come in with the god widow plays
is xqc’s suspension about the homophobic muma comments?
There’s a video linked above
Really?
That's it?
That's not even that bad?
They suspended him for that?
SMH
If I ever get into owl I'd probably be banned immediately tbh lol
its different when you represent people that are backing you with financial investments in a professional enviroment tho
It really doesn't matter what you guys think, they are a sponsored team.
you dont go insulting your co-worker for jokes, even if hes not offended, that stuff can get you kicked out of your job real fast
especially when you are in a public spotlight
Not only are you representing your team, you're representing a league that multiple billion dollar companies have invested into as well as the multi-billion dollar company that created the league and the game the league is in
^ 👌
When you are a player in OWL, you are a player for Blizzard
And Blizzard and their investors won't tolerate shit like what xQc said
Can we pin that please
Haha
Also it was a lame attempt at a clapback anyway
Not even original
But what I am surprised by is Phili Fusion
They suspended xQc for the rest of Stage 1
They kinda popped up and smashed stuff
Ughhhhhhhh
Which he instantly regretted
Hey guys Phili Fusion amirite
Philly looked remarkably good out of the gate
They don't even have all their staff in the US yet, IIRC
Oh actually?
I haven’t followed them at all
I was disappointed by the outlaws tho until the fuel game
philly/boston have been the most surprising to me so far, really enjoy watching their games
Then I was just blown away
I miss Joemeister
Mhm, I think the former FaZe coach, NamedHwei was still in Korea up until a few days ago
Philly is mechanically stacked
THey seem rather one note atm, though
For example on Numbani against Gladiators Hydration rolled through them with Pharah and they never switched to a proper counter comp
Is that lack of skill on other heroes
Nope, Carpe's a ridiculous McCree and he stayed on Tracer
was SDB on genji thinking he could pick him out of the air or why did they not swap that? that sounds too weird
I want Mendo to play 🕯
Free Mendo
But on the other hand I'm glad Houston figured out their line-up
poor mendo 😦
Any specific series/maps from yesterday to catch up on?
Dallas fuel learns why signing streamers isn't good
no problem with seagull I think..?
Seagull is fine tho
I guess he's the exception
Popular Streamers usually carry this all about me attitude that doesn't translate well to team games
That's pretty true
And they can be popular for being raunchy and loud
Like xqc
Strange blizzard says they wanna combat toxicity but didn't bat am eye at xqc entering
Because they knew he'd bring in more money with his subscribers
while hes not the niceness in person you cant deny that till that one time xQc has never thrown or not tried to win in comp games
and that is with getting streamsnipers and people that throw with him for months
Regardless they are 0 and 4 they are the Dallas Cowboys
Dallas fuel? More like... Florida fuel
so them making shitty comp strats and being in a slump not playing well is the fault of one guy on their team thats not been in on the last 2 games?
its been 4 games of half a year of overwatch, lets not jump conclusions
No but having someone who flips out after a loss and thinks grinding on comp is gonna make things better doesn't help
I doubt dallas fuel is gonna suddenly go on a tear next week
their issues is apparently mostly teamwork, why would grinding 2s with their dedicated tracer player to improve their dive not be a good idea?
they scrim enough every day, and then put in extra work in duos outside of scrims
obviously they're not gonna go on a tear and win every game from today to yesterday
but they played some of the best teams so far and did well against both the korean teams, theres 5 more months of OWL s1, they can definitely improve heavily in that time
36 games to go
@Reinforce Subtweeting out of pure cowardice while categorizing me as impulsive young streamer
Must be nice to give opinions about everything from the sidelines, while doing absolutely nothing.
Can't help himself

imagine if they lost literally every game lmao
He's lucky he even got this far
Spoiled brat thinking he can just let his mouth run wild and not suffer any consequences for it
@EnVy_Talespin @Reinforce You bandwagonned and spread hate against me and your old team all day. Get that envy tag out of your name if ur gonna do that, last time you we're relevant I didn't even own the game.
Yup he's done
Why is xqc making himself look worse and worse
Why is he doing this wtf
Dude some people playing the game would to be in his position but instead he fucks it all away
iT's JuSt A sTrEaMeR pErSoNaLiTy
There are still fuel fans who defend him
Florida Mayhem are performing better than Dallas Fuel lmao
Not true
fuel played the 2 best korean teams in OWL
mayhem only won against SHD so far
and got map wins against the korean teams
fuel that is
still performing better according to the standings 😉
They also played against outlaws which everyone expected them to win
standings after 4 games out of 40 😉
yeah the games from fuel against LAV and outlaws were less than stellar
Sure.
doesnt matter the amount of games played. At the moment Florida are performing better.
Dallas is better tho
of course
There's xQc fans that defend him, I think most Fuel fans are tired of it
^^
those tweets he just put out are dumb as fuck
i dont even know what hes trying to do at this point
probably just getting kicked out of the team
He's fucking his own opportunity up
What do you mean @magic zinc as in his play? Or him just being xQc and being retarded as fuck
Second point
I mean he fucked up
I think he admits that
Do I think he deserves to be suspended from the entire Stage? Hell no
i think xqc hates being in the league
he just wants to go back to streaming for his hivemind and nothing else
xqc 
he is stupid
yes celestia we get it you don't like him 
What tweets did xQc do? they look fine to me
@Reinforce Subtweeting out of pure cowardice while categorizing me as impulsive young streamer
Must be nice to give opinions about everything from the sidelines, while doing absolutely nothing.
You can read the thread from that
i don't think many people like xqc at this rate
also man the dallas fuel fans are really treating last nights match as a celebration and a huge improvement....
xqc runs his mouth a lot, but at least he pefroms when needed in tournaments...oh wait
@rare tangle its just you my dude
everything youve written in this discord for the past hour is about how much you dislike xqc
give it a break already
fine your right we'll never hear about him ever again anyways
Kappa
the dallas fuel just need to go on an insane winning streak now
I fuckin love Tairong
Dallas will most likey get 3 wins, 1 loss, 2 wins
LOL
"@balmy wolfFuel @xQc What action is being taken against muma and his comment. He put down team Dallas fuel with his comment of “rolled and smoked my doggie”. You don’t put down the team you defeat you congratulate them on a good game and move on, you don’t mock them."
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee esports
Lol what
the fuel are a meme team now
that quote right there is why everyone dislikes redditors
about as funny as when the internet decided to shove it down the fuels throat that valiant roasted them with meme pictures
it really sucks how "being a half decent human being" is not a requirement for conversing on the internet
and when you bring that up you inevitably get a “wow snowflake” response
^^^^
The OWL shouldn't have people who act like the guys in my matches that just wanna carry the team themselves and see everyone else as slackers
the rest of the world treats gamers as lazy slackers who have no life and pro gamers as desperate freaks trying to make it up to their familes for being such failures...not such a case in south korea
xqc is literally making it impossible to defend him, it must be on purpose
one humano being can't be that stupid
toxic
imagine if xqc starts calling the overwatch league a bunch of obese pigs trying to ruin his day....oh boy
also ban jake for teabagging 😡
lool
that was funny
ban the announcers as well
ban everyone
@The Celestia I'm pretty sure he thinks that
“talk shit get hit”
xqc talks shit
hit with a fine
LOL
Sheeeeit I fell asleep and when I wake up the suspension goes from one series to 3 more weeks
not a suspension tho, dallas benched him
that can be reversed if they want to
the mandatory league imposed part is still four games
dallas knows as soon as he gets back on...post game he'll run back to stream and scream out his ass about how much everyone sucks
dallas called it a suspension
"In addition to the league's four-game suspension, we will be suspending xQc for the remainder of Stage 1"
point is it’s team enforced
its not gonna be reversed
rankings for title matches & playoffs?
yea
¯_(ツ)_/¯
breaking news
that this discord definitely hasn't been discussing for the past 3 hours
well he basically was homophobic to a guy
uh, why was xQc banned?, the forum post is locked and there are no details to what actually went down?
He told Muma to suck a fat one
oh shite, really?
yes
can't find the clip where he's saying it right now, but here's muma's reply https://clips.twitch.tv/BashfulPeacefulFiddleheadsTheThing
oh damn thanks
he wasn't in trouble for saying "suck a dick", it's because he said muma would probably enjoy it (muma is openly gay)
damn...
Effect

oh hello
lol
Here's the clip for those of you that need it: https://clips.twitch.tv/EasyTrappedOxDansGame
He knew he messed up right after he said it lmao
so want to see spits vs dynasty now
i'm worried about valiant vs spit today
i've been rooting for london but they didn't perform that well vs gladiators and valiant is probably the best non-korean team right now
next week is dynasty vs dragons
wouldn't it be top banter if dragons lost every game, and dynasty won every game, apart from this one
dragons 1 - 39; dynasty 39 - 1 
I'm excited for Valiant/Spitfire and Gladiators/NYXL
JJonak!
Hope its not a Korean sweep </3
Dallas Fuel the McLaren Honda of OWL
I think gladiators can win at least a map
but then again, I thought the same about valiant
Maybe a retard question, but why are all OWL teams named after cities wich they have nothing to do with the actual cities and are mostly just old teams under a new name, why couldnt they just keep their old names?
Because it's a league
the owners are mostly companies/investors from those cities, the names give them a brand to base it off since its completely new
And after the season ends they will go to their cities
A lot of more casual fans for example are fans of a team because they live there
Its a traditional sports thing tbh, it draws people in
they intend to have arenas in more cities as well ... but I can't imagine they're expecting even by season 3 to have matches in each of the titular cities
They're keeping everyone in LA for the first season just to make sure everything in the league goes well, then I think most groups are going to do their own thing.
I know London is already finding a stadium, since the new Premier League Soccer STadium in London has an e-sports Arena in it as well (for the growing FIFA esport etc)
And it looks like that will end up being their stadium etc.
I'm unsure what they'll do with Seoul/Shanghai though, those are huge trips.
They may maintain US arenas.
yeah that's the one thing I'm iffy about with the OWL is the trips across countries
QXC may have bad people around him, i know if i ever did anything like this, my parents and family would tell me to delete EVERYTHING i posted on the internet
privite facebook, no twitter, no twitch
my parents would probably tweet at OWL to tell them to suck a fat one
nice that they're in my corner i guess
so you will be the buff baggwell of OWL
@spiral summit I'm unsure if they're able to ban him from streaming, we'd have to seet he contracts. But I think that'd be the most effective thing to do with xQc. The game suspensions barely matter since he's probably one of, if not the, weakest member on their team and they bench him a lot.
It'd be interesting if the contracts could let them work with twitch and give him a 3-4 month streaming ban though.
well i mean it not as bad as the shit other toutubers have done in recent times
They can always pull a Tyler1 on the guy and ban him on sight
It's actually worse when you include everything.
hmm?
oh, then ya what a moron
And he went to work, called someone a fag and told them to suck a dick.
Well maybe if he wasn't a shit player he'd make more.
I doubt they'll renew his contract.
only 60k? my mom makes less
They could pick up better options really easily.
and her job is giving her stress on her heart
As much as I love Mickie if they invested that 60k into a better D'va, for instance, they'd be in a super good spot.
I think if FCTFCTN was released earlier (so he could trial earlier), xQc wouldn't have been in Fuel
But yeah, these kids are all salaried employees, they don't get free rides on saying crap like that.
The only debate that I think was viable was when xQc and Jake were talking about teabagging.
Which I don't think matters.
kids will be kids
It's not even that
and you can debate if this is too much for kids to handle
Teabagging is harmless and a little psychological.
true
Overwatch is a little bit of a mental game as well, you can see it in Dallas as they get tilted.
Since Taimou/xQc are both tiltmasters.
i am sad i spend my free skin on dallas
I mean they have bad team colors too.
LA Guardians and Seoul have the best skins 😛
the dallas fuel are a disgrace at this point

They have an insanely talented roster picked with no thought for cohesion.
also a LA glad doomfist is great too
they tried to do the maiami route
You could see it in the one map they won last night - (Dallas being one of the only teams to actually win maps against Korean teams, despite their issues)
err when the heat got the 3 top players
When they can play a solid 2-2-2 and take pressure off of everything from Effects shoulders they're a VERY good team.
Taimou + Cocco running tanks with Seagull + Effect on DPS was a really strong set up from them.
But they lack proper hero balance.
So if they need a D'Va you have to sub Mickie back in.
And while Mickie is mentally the most important part of their team for morale, he's not their strongest player and he's a quickly de-meched D'va.
And he limits what else they do on the roster.
It also runs them into issues because when you have just seagull, or just taimou you know exactly what heroes are coming.
Because Seagull and Taimou have zero overlap.
Which is really bad for dps.
so maybe ego?
No its not ego.
It's just a badly put together team
They went for talent, not team comp.
It's happening to Shanghai too.
what team suprise people so far
Yes, Shanghai is a mess.
i know that they seem like a joke
But its mostly because Shanghai has no projectile dps player, no genji, they run double hit scan.
Houston to me.
houston, yeah
They lost two games, but those weren't easy games.
but LAG and LAV are both overperforming my expectations too
i am liking what i seen of LAG
The biggest thing you can look for, and its fun to see.
If a team has a strong support core, the teams doing well right now.
LAV has Kariv and Unkoe.
LAV, ironically, can take a lesson from the last Shanghai game.
If they learn to collapse on their supports like Shanghai did perfectly last night
They'll keep Kariv alive longer and be stronger on the push.
LAG has some surprising people
Hydration has really impressed me so far.
considering he was barely on the team...nah
who are the 3 worst teams atm lol
Dallas Shanghai Florida.
and the 3 best?
NY, London and Seoul
Korean teams are going to dominate for a while since they're mostly pre-existing teams so their cohesion and communication is insane.
Once LAG/LAV/Houston get their communication on the same level we'll get insane games.
which is gonna drive away viewers if we can already say seoul is the winner
that might take another season though
this season seems like pure boredom for people who don't want blowouts several times a week
I actually don't think Seoul is gauranteed.
seoul London or new York take your pick I guess
Next week has the first Korean vs. Korean game, so that's exciting.
I guess I should spend my 100 credits on a Houston outlaws skin
But yeah, the league needs the non-korean teams to do well or it'll fail.
I want to see Houston be really competitive vs Seoul
I think Houston will.
so guys outlaws mercy or outlaw dva?
That would get me super hyped
There's one noticeable thing that works against the korean teams.
And so far Dallas is the only one who has done it well.
The Korean teams kind of falter against hyper aggression.
Really really aggressive teams tend to do the best against them.
Jake plays really aggressive, which is why I think most Korean players respect him
Hmm? You mentioned Dallas and Jake is Houston
Jake is Houston
Yeah, I thought I mentioned Houston. My bad if I didn't.
Oh, I see. I brought Dallas back in.
Dallas has been the only team to do it successfully so far, but I think going forward Houston is the next best team for it.
Like we all see Dallas as kind of a failing team right now, but they've won two maps against Korean teams which no one else really has. So we can still see how the playstyle works.
With an aggressive playstyle. I know the popular meme is to shit on them right now, and most of its correct. But they and Houston have won the most maps against Korean teams.
So even in the shitstorm theres something they're doing right.
Both LA teams play Korea teams today, and I hope one of them wins
?
I'm watching the London Dallas Oasis from yesterday.
So Shanghai Florida should be out
That should be the first map @hidden vault
now I'm pondering on if I should just get an outlaws or valiant skin instead of the fuel donk
SHD
so, dallas fuel is done?
seems like it theres still a chance
but a 0-4 start isn't something you can easily dig yourself out of without major improvements
4 out of 40 games, they had pretty good performance against seoul & london 2 of the top 3 predicted teams, pretty weak against the other 2, i wouldnt jump to conclussions that the team is "done"
this is the same as the "boston is going to be dead last" circlejerk before OWL even started
its gonna take many games before they can start winning
they can improve but I won't go calling them a championship tier team this season
Dallas just needs to clean up their tank situation so they can play more two dps.
As insane of a hog Taimou is, they need a solid second dps.
not that they are definite to win it with their current performance, but they have the ability to win that game
So if Taimou is going to be on Hog they need Seagull in on genji/rat.
They're pretty damn predictable tbh with their line-ups
jack in the box is not pleased
Yeah. I'm not even sure what Mickie's hero pool is anymore since he's just bandaiding Dva so much
And if he was like a Poko D'va it wouldn't be a problem.
But he's not Poko
I really don't wanna support the dallas fuel at this rate if it's just gonna be like supporting the dallas cowboys
got enough teams that make me want to puke with their incompetence....
Doesnt he play Orisa also?
i feel like outlaws will be doing more in the long run than fuel at this rate
Outlaws have always looked like the better team to me, tbh
Bani and Rawkus are a solid combo, and this league really shows you how much your support duo matters.
I also really like the LAG roster.
if fuel makes the playoffs and the outlaws don't I'll be shocked
I knew Surefour was good, but Hydration has been impressing me so much
so who ya guys wanting to win the spitfire/valiant match?
same
For the good of OWL I want a non-korean team to beat a korean team lol
an obesity team
Has the game started?
Im rooting for spitfire
They have won every match they have been in so far
They even beat dallas fuel 
What, water isnt wet
When something is wet it implies it can be dry later!!
#FreeMendo
if i pour water into water is the water now wet
very serious discussion about OWL lol
I don't think we'll start seeing many Korean team losses till Stage 2.
Yes
As you'd expect since its pre-built teams against non-prebuilts.
go go power rangers
I didnt expect the owl to have so many curb stomps (4-0 or 3-0)
I did for the first few stages.
When you allow people to buy existing teams you get to buy cohesion and teamwork already.
So you've got teams with years of cohesion already.
Versus people who just met a few months ago.
but yeah heres hoping valiant wins somehow
woah there
overwatch has only been out for a year
they cant have YEARS of cohesion
^i often forget that
The first Korean team to lose to the western team should be banished from Overwatch.
Feels like overwatch has been out for longer than a year
true
remember guys
overwatch has been out for 2 years in 3 months
if valiant wins then the London spitfire will reenact the royal wedding
eeeeh 4 months
i feel like I'm just gonna sit on these 100 league creds for awhile
Orisa looks nice with all team colours i think
LAG and NYXL should be a good match too really.
i was gonna get a fuel skin but now its looking like valiant dynasty or outlaws
👏
London spitfire!
which of those should i get a skin for
wew everyone is getting btfo by seoul
i already have roadhog spitfire
how was the dallas game against london?
it was buttfuck
so dallas was trampled again?
!!Dallas Fuel jersy for sale!! Only worn 4 times
xQc got suspended for the remainder of Stage 1
today is west vs korea
damn what did he do
called someone gay
say something controversial on stream?
😂
dallas fined him for 2000$
DAMN
Its not that offensive relative to what you see on the internet but its not appropriate for owl league
Any other Florida Mayhem fans out there?
where did he say that
Stream

Stream is up
are you at the arena billl?
Twitch won't load for me 
I was going to go but it's sold out today so I decided to watch from home. I could sit in the back offices and watch but it's a long drive to not be in the arena itself.
aww, have fun and enjoy the games anyways!
sold out 😃
Yeah I can't complain! It's nice that people are excited to go. I'll probably head up next weekend
How is London doing? I can't load the stream
did somebody say hype
They haven't started yet no worries
match hasn't started yet
Try the MLG stream?
usually takes like 5-10 minutes before gameplay starts
If the stream isn't loading you can also try logging out of twitch. I heard they had some issues yesterday?
Its a different stream, but has a slight delay
no hype for today - no Dragons or Dallas memeteam
I don't have a twitch acct. :/
There's this one if you think twitch chat is part of the experience for you
waddup bois
MLG stream is a little higher quality but has a delay, so don't look at this chat haha
why watch steam without pogchamps
twitch moves too fast for me to even read it
(boneface)

Today’s matches should be good
Woah Jeff's neck sure got longer
why use discord without nitros to spam unnecessary emotes everywhere you want
they betta be good

RIP internet
yea, I hope we won't see hard stomp

LAG is gonna get destroyed
Really didn't like how it was yesterday

a overwatch league team thats just bronze players
Dallas
Soon <3
👏
I think I'm too far from civilization to stream...
You can always look at this chat and guess what is happening 
@errant urchin
maybe it's me but emotion spam really create immersion for me
They should suspend and fine the twitch chat. Too much cursing going on there.
I've got the stream up fullscreen and this chat on my second monitor
