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Freekill 
I feel like shanghai would struggle even in 6 stacking in comp lol
Muma times his dives well though. he tends to make it out.
man needs a hair cut
you take that back
"anime is real". these are some funny commentators.
Now Johnny Unitas, theres a haircut you could set your watch to
this is pathetic
we get to see boink practice his mercy so thats nice
Freekill 
THE MAD MAN
YEA
RIP shangai
AND THEY GET THE POINT\
G'DAY
jesus
Green wall > Great wall?
rip shanghai dragons
Shanghai
they will be forgotten
Get at least 1 pls
that is next to impossible for them right now
unless they get their shit together
this is biggest face roll match i have seen so far
at least mayhem put up a fight against seoul
did I miss out on anything exciting today, just waiting for tomorrow tbh
seems like stomps everywhere
any cool plays/highlights
O forgot its Thursday aka tomorrow for first games this week
and tviq
I need to visit these Seoul and LA plays
fleta and tviq hrd for me to say who went bettter there
@sullen berry Pine gonna rip you guys, NYXL represent!
houston gettin whooped by fuel in 17hrs
Eeee @north tendon
idk i think thatll be a good match
nyxl gettin whoop'd by val today
Pine subbing in to save it from being a roll match 
val is pretty great too
pine sucked on any other map except for that pithole map on illios
sry to say that .. but that's a fact
thats the only map he played
nah he played 2 illios map last time
Jake not on Junkrat! yay!
no way they arent tilted AF
Are they trying?
every map has been about the same
that Money dive is so bad
they win 1 or 2 team fights but barely
oh dragons defending and lost the point already
and then houston steamrolls
This is might be a stupid question but are Shanghai dragons composed of Chinese people?
they are
it seems it has been some fuckup by some coach
just making sure no one thinks china sucks ow wise
favouring his old team mates over the best chinese team
they make boston look top tier
Rawkus has morning hair
i think imma watch tv now
muma is really starting to grow on me
This is a good build up for Houston before playing Dallas tomorrow.
I hate how jake looks like an all star in this match but its just because theyre literally playing against garbage
shanghai sucked so hard they broke sound on stream
@daring widget 😃
Lol I️ mean Jake is one of the best is he not? Except for South Koreans
I got Shanghai dragons hanzo out of sympathy 
But being Korean is cheating
lol obi
Even casters said jake was only efficient on the rat
Unrelated, my hanzo play feels so much better at the game Cafes with it
jakerat is only good as jakerat
No shame in dying on deathmatch
oh god i thought it was over. please just let them die
his pharah stats were terrible last time
seelook at them
He can play other heroes this game because shanghai is literally garbage
but can you do this
undead is dead af
waht jake did
shanghi is dead lol
shanghai needs rez
shanghai needs better players
@thorn forum yes i can
that was just mean
lol
Shanghai needs to get help
Shanghai needs mercy buff only for them
I’m not sure who to cheer for cause I’m half shanghainese. I’m just gonna go with Houston because they’re winning
in every way possible
owl counselling? lul
emotional help
meep, if my team was that bad, I would say fuck it about representation
this isnt even fun to get behind
Aww I wanted that battle mercy kill
17hrs .. and outlaws will feel ill
Mercy payload
@dark bear I had this feeling when NZ was getting rolled, hard to support your own country when the players are unrelatable
is anyone on the p[ayload
ugh why are they even taking the point?
The casters only view from the point of view of Houston mostly too
did they all run off of it
lol noone on payload
yea i thought so
REALLY?????
oh a zen
what!
agressive greetings
mmmm shanghai
lol
oh shanghai
being so bigmouth'd
you let a winston actually just jump on you guys
i freakin dislike fake now
each of them are just doing their own thing, like this is what happens in gold games
they walked right by a giant monkey...
undead has ironically died like 500 times
I don't know how Diya plays the way he does, as if he chokes and gets lucky streaks in between lulls
so good pls
RAWKUS WTF BRO
Ooh spicy contest
what the fuck was that nuke
gg Shanghai.
wasnt a c9
How is China so bad I️ feel like China should kill at esports
Three rows supporting shanghai 😔
Shanghai is a gold team
fuck outlaws
yeah it wasnt a c9 they didnt want to play anymore
gonna get ripped apart in 17hrs
They're so trash they don't deserve to be in OWL
OWL isn't their territory @dark bear, frankly this isn't the team the fans wanted as far as best players go
@pastel meteor still, they all get 50k $ 😃
id suck a penis to get paid 50k a year and travel the world to play OW
so good for them
And they still get humiliated in front of hundreds of thousands of people
rip shanghai dragons
i really, looking at there team work
wuold prob blame there coaches
thats why they are so terrible they are pussyfootting around
well as @whole mulch or someone said .. i think @gaunt acorn .. there was some fuckup by some coach
I really hope shanghai would comeback with better players
they cap points on last few seconds because they need to push in
It's communism to blame
not a coach, an executive for blizzard chinas esports division
it was straight up nepotism
oh .. even worse
gave the team slot to his former teammates
they really have many strong Overwatch players in their Country
instead of the best candidates
no wonder
so Miraculous Youngster got screwed and disbanded
for World Cup and Overwatch League
and all others agreed with that executive?
there was a 4th executive added
just sad
They need to practice
every other team is practicing too
how can you expect a team so far behind the rest to reach the same level
unless they practice twice as much
shanghai is probably going to finish season 1 in last place
triple as much
big words considering we're only a week in, i know
They're so trash they should just quit
i feel like they would have done better rein zarya with there less divy comp
Some dude looked like he was about to cry
no
did mayhem play vs dragons already?
save runaway for a season 2 team
Some other guy said he was "born to play dps"
also kaiser is a free agent
Korean roster for chinese team
he'll prob get picked up soon
And got rekt
i'd like to see seoul or london pick him up
diya
I thought kaiser was in runaway
He was playin in apex
How are you born to play dps when overwatch came out after you were born
He went to c9 then back to runaway
@pastel meteor lol
^
Oh
Born to play an attacker. DPS fits into most team based shooters.
I felt some braincells die
It's so funny watching shanghai get annihilated
when will the map pool change?
In like 3 weeks or something during stage 2 I think
I see, thnx
@pastel meteor it was diya
I feel bad for shanghai
They're so out of their league
@daring widget The Chinese are too proud to let members from another country play for them
lol
they get free 50k/yr salaries despite not even being qualified for the spot
dont feel too bad for them
They need to get rid of that pride if they want to win this then
^^
i mean, its not their fault for the nepotism
but still
it's not like they don't get paid if they lose
50k/yr for playing OW
Not their fault?
per season, sorry
They probably had a part in it
so ye .. 50k .. for playin OW .. i woudn't give a fuck if i'd be on the last spot .. 😄
I mean this happened for World Cup and League
Wtf
Is bilzzard even doing anything?
Anyways well #notmycountry
I would care if I was getting my ass kicked constantly
kaiser and whoru on a new s2 team
I don't wanna look like a fool
i would get behind that
anyways what's the story on Miraculous Youngster?
arguably the best team in china before disbanding
so this is the standing until now?
got snubbed for the shanghai spot
then quit overwatch and disbanded
now they mostly play PUBG i think
sad, they were extremely talented
Gn
why were they screwed?
because of the nepotism we've been talking about
and what was Seoul's original team?
lunatic hai
hopefully they would comeback next league
heh .. and all these dumbasty fans thought dumbesty is unbeatable 😄
feelsbad
or come back with better players
after being screwed out of the team spot
there is no Miraculous Youngster now
thats what disbanding entails
Does anyone know if whoru still holds a spot in seoul?
most of them moved on to competitive PUBG or other shooters
no he cant play ben
he is on lunatic-hai still
he's only 16
btw is harbleu looking for a team for contenders or something like that?
I wish owl would chill with that agre restriction
but that would be by season 3
you need to be 18 to play? 🤦
Lol
apparently
wtf
this is standard practice for professional sports
there are no 16 yr olds in the NHL or MLB
ok but why is something like APEX fine but not OWL?
there is a u18 worldcup football league 😃
ah
Country regulations vary
this is a pro esports league with teams and contracts
is it possible for shanghai to comeback with proper teams next year?
they could sack their current roster and recruit new players, sure
i think it's unlikely though
unless management changes
I hope rascal plays on friday, its only been birdring profit
well there will be other teams for season2 ..
plus can't china have another qualifying team?
Isnt it like 2.5 million buy in or something
potentially even double
the plan is to expand
again qualifiers and stuff
maybe beijing or smth
some were waiting to see if owl was worth it
20 million @daring widget
which it is imo
ye
it's not unlikely we'll get another 12 teams for season 2, making a grand total of 24 teams
mostly in europe
so all the players, the coaches, analysts .. etc pp
If only i was rich, then ill recruit bronze players
that would be a lot more exciting, its so easy to predict the top 3 atm
i did predictions awhile back, actually

Overwatch League S2 Predictions: 

Atlantic Division:
- Paris
- Berlin
- Chicago
- Toronto
- Stockholm
- Rio de Janeiro

Pacific Division: - Seattle
- Tokyo
- Beijing
- Sydney
- Phoenix
- Busan
what are they?
imma scrimm af .. and join some eu team for season2
I forgot japan
imo the least likely is probably rio de janeiro
Aktm was insane
yea .. berlin
In world cup
japan doesnt have a huge overwatch scene, but that didnt stop the london team from hiring a bunch of koreans so who knows
I feel like their world cup team did alright
you could swap Rio de Janeiro for Copenhagen or Amsterdam tbh
yeah Japan is a little xenophobic but
it's not out of the question
amsterdam lol
many more American teams
they did?
too many American teams
well obviously not good enough to be top 8 but certainly not awful
and I hope to see a South East Asian team
have lit players like mickie
well only mickie right now
american teams are much easier to get franchised so we'll see more added in s2
mickie feels washed up so far
btw.. why hasn't GODS been signed to a OWL team?
hope that changes
hence my inclusion of chicago, seattle, phoenix
why much easier to franchise?
Add kephrii to an owl team kappa
I thought harb would be in owl
because theres an established scene in america already and a lot more esports orgs based there
and sports owners looking to buy an esports team
I think calvin would be interesting to be owl
so what happened to GODS?
hmm not south korea?
The best Chinese team didn't get picked up for shanghai
GODS is a free agent along with AKM
They had underage kids on the roster
he'll probably get signed to the same team AKM does
ah ok
Were arguably top4 team in the world
AKM is a monster
A lot of those guys quit ow tho so I don't know what pool Shanghai has to fall back on
he even rekt flower on pharah
Did they 100% quit
Feels weird looking at teams like London and New York with !00% koreans
Damn
I think some might be in ow still I can't remember
Itd be nice if they got together if they were offered a spot
if you think of it of something like chelsea and madrid
imma fetch some sleep .. l8r dudes&dudettes
its not too surprising
see ya
Not having Koreans would just make it a second rate league in comparison to Korean contenders
Well at least not all koreas
Mix teams are also a weird idea
but the koreans can't sponsor their own teams?
Breaking up establishes rosters for money
you would be lying if you deny new yorkers arent thankful for a player like pine over some medicore home player
No sports have only local players
We need more african americans in te OWL
It's weird that it's full Korean but
rosters acan be established again
Full african roster
busan will surely get a team in s2 which will lead to an interesting rivalry vs seoul
and might be even better
The alternative is having a bunch of Korean cities being represented
multiple korean teams will be cool
GC busan lul
The madagascar cheetahs
Korea would need to have like 4 cities at least
but they are in london
busan is a city
Busan Seoul where else?
Runaway could represent busan
thats my thinking
I hoenstly though GC Busan would represent Busan lol in the end they went to london 🤦
They were bought by c9
There was no Busan franchise what choice did they have really
london is so stacked
Japan would be interesting to see in OWL
birdring and profit too good
turn nyxl into busan
If they had MY instead of Shanghai and like Runaway instead of maybe Florida, owl would be really stacked
The rest of the players on that team aren't even that bad, they've just never done well as a team together
Why was lwblue recruited into nyxl over runaway
Seeing as they made it into the apex finals twice
atleast they are still blue
runaway wasnt actively trying out for a spot
it wasnt a matter of them not being qualified
China was right at the top
WAS
not that I was from China but 🤷
wasted Talents
Rip romania
“We want to win. It’s simple as that, right? And the goal of this team is to win stuff. So if that’s the ultimate goal, then we need the best people that we can possibly get, and I think we’ve done that.”
true words
yea that sucks for china
😦
Rip china not #1
one would think that between the uk and nyc there should be at least one person who's good enough for owl
@gaunt acorn you might wanna inculde taipei in your list too
i excluded taipei for a reason
theres always a shaky political thing with taiwanese sports/esports teams coexisting with china
i think beijing will get a team but not taipei
hmm? they still made it for the world cup
Just be strict and kick shitty players
yeah with certain restrictions
Then you will see players not slacking off
i think china will be getting 1 new team in s2 and beijing is much more probable than taipei
it might even enrage some mainlanders if taipei got a team before beijing did
im not implying taipei isnt talented or anything
Taipei alr has a pool of players and it would be possible that they would
thats just the situation
I get it that keeping players is crucial for the stability of the league in long term BUT if there is no competition then what’s the point.
right but im not talking about talent here
" All OWL teams are currently working on their Contenders team, which will basically serve as the org’s academy team where they can grow talent and give those who don’t make the main roster a place to play."
actually didnt even know about that
thats cool
plus why Toronto and not Vancouver?
toronto has a bigger esports scene
wow the viewership numbers dropped like crazy
and jeff kaplan literally mentioned this a week ago
that he wants to see a toronto team in s2
because their lead art designer is from toronto
i literally live in vancouver
its not like im being biased lmao
I would check for tomorrow, cause like the games today were so easily one sided
toronto is just objectively more likely
i cant imagine a lot caring
@balmy wolf cause matches are fucking boring
I literally can’t watch it because it’s so boring
any game with dragons is a snooz fest
Delete mercy and junkrat
@spring lintel with the boring matches plus 3 min ads after every round is really retarded (do they still do half time i was at work?)
No teams from Finland, Denmark and Russia?
What if tier owl teams can go fall down to a new tier 2 league
Instead of contenders
russia doesnt have a big esports scene, no
finland and denmark are likely, i said
you can easily swap rio de janeiro for helsinki or copenhagen
all that was missing today was boston
it should be skill based not $$$, blizzard is doing everything wrong
to make it a total skip
the espots skins should have the same hud as in the actual league games
Blizz needs to talk team owners and tell them to pick good players
And give them the ability to release players
Aka fire
@balmy wolf that will be fixed soon
its a bug/oversight
oh
you mean coloured hud
no nvm
well, I cant imagine some of these guys staying next season
yeah the colored hud
really? idk
The worse that can happen is for them to get benched
and I really hate this form of region based team
the abilities look cool when its like white
really sucks to have london filled with players from korea (+ny+
I like the white away skins though
well thats how every sports org in the world operates, pretty much
lol
too bad we can't get them
does it? its a great ass team
i dont see a problem with it
its winning
what matters
they can have it like dragons
and enjoy being last place
Tmw is gonna be semi lit
they still get paid and all they do is play games
Hopefully they won’t disappoint
I'm waiting on spitfire vs Excelisor
i dont know which team i like
as someone from ny i have no real hometown pride for the team so nyxl being nyxl is kinda pointless to me
Nyxl is the best team period imo
i just like the skins
yayaya seoul dynast lost nothingg
seoul dynasty should be nerfed
Seoul dynasty are yet to be tested lul
The only teams that can test them are nyxl and london maybe
The rest are 2nd tier trash sadly
Within the league ofc
i thought dallas fuel was good
They have potential
xQc
i liked xqc
its just 2nd week and its already
, really had high hope on owl... imagine watching month of these
matches
if dallas gets their shit together they can contend
ive seen those xqc rage videos
but not right now
^
do they play eachother twice?
Exactly what shidou said
They get their shit together they have potential to win it all
@north tendon they need to stop pandering and have a solid 6 team roster and have subs for special maps only
effect talked about how he felt like crying after that soon backcap and it really feels like hes working a lot harder than the others
does xqc get mad alot
plus he cant trust to tracer with his tanks
xqc doesnt get mad in stage, he is stable genius
yea sure kallen
is his twitch streams a act
Can’t wait for the drama inside their team
not an act.
The only act is his official DF videos 😂
he did say he was worried about being unconsciously toxic to his teammates
but cant blame him
I heard xQc is pretty arrogant
wasnt he banned for reporting people for random stuff
And he got it in pre season i think or something
he is very quiet in the team
I thought xqc was stupid until they made an interview with him
i think its just for fun
seagull is smart
seagull is outdated now
Seagull washed up
yeah washed up
Any random high ranked player plays like him
I find it weird that we don’t have players that don’t miss shots
after nrg seagull is 😴
Why don’t csgo pros come to overwatch
@spring lintel lol u dont realy need to be skilled to be top at the game
I know it doesn’t transfer but they have gods aim
You do
Unless u wanna cheese ur way up there
@spring lintel you need good game sense, aim all comes after
Not really you need aim unless u are playing a hero that doesn’t need aim
People highly ranked move in dodgy ways
tanks are pretty much the carries now, if they know how to control dps, all gucci
Aiming at high lvls isn’t the same
No they are not
Lol wtf
Dps are the carries mostly
right now you need someone with experience within overwatch itself
is fleta good dps
Yeah
aim alone wont help
Everything is crucial
no
That’s why i think overwatch is harder than csgo
if u play symmetra u can camp a room
symm is for scrub play tho
@north tendon aim is not obtainable from videos or knowledge
in csgo it is
agreed
It takes a shit ton of time and it depends on your experience
u watch like spray patterns n stuff
And practice
I think some people are just naturals too, but of course everyone practices hard
pine just blows me away
Lav vs nyxl who win
its like hes above the usual pro level
I support nyxl so nyxl, but they also have a big chance if they play it right
val is not an easy team though for sure
xqc is winston main?
they have good strats
Flower
@fervent temple nyxl
has an american team beaten korea before
Ya I hope nyxl wrecks them
cant wait for flower to join
O don't like California
Hey that's pretty good
yea, besides that gold damage on anubis with like 14k
is effect better then fleta
it's not the players but the nepositism
dragons is a bronze team as far as owl is concerned
oppos
shanghai?
burn
why
ahahhaha
but hey atleast you get to see your star players stomp in a match
more pine headshots
lul
for those spicy montages
they have tshirts for sale
Pine vs flower who's better
the reason why overwatch is harder because of the game dynamic, of how if 1 player is dead in 5v6 there is no proper comeback compatibility
true
coolfish hard to say cause I havent seen flower since world cup
but hey they are both in the same team
win win
Ya
i think pine vs fleta or flower vs fleta is exciting
even paladins is more balanced in this case**
yea kallen the first pick is massive in overwatch
He would be a funny meme
did the pros playdoomfist
yes
Flower and pine on the same starting roster is a dream
hydration was a doomfist main on ladder
who played doomfist
so he used him some
why no symmetra
I think seoul did on dallas but they already won anyway
I feel picking up flower was so fucking dumb
of course seoul played doomfist
They already have pine
it doesnt have to be mercy even, with or without, overwatch is unbalanced and not skilled based
it can be pretty skill based
its just
the snowball effect is too strong
imo
2cp moreso
yeah
decrease the dmg or introducing mercy passive for all heroes would be an actual good change.. and removing 1 /2 shot ability
1 hit 100%*
I think mercy regen would make some heroes OP, mostly genji, imo, I would rather we get less self reliant characetrs
tracer is already a problem cause of that
characters*
team work also matters
I dont want more selfish play
the beauty of overwatch is how every character needs something to help strengthen their plays one way or the other
like fitting a puzzle
what I like anyway
thats for every mobo game , what are u on 
Fuck healers. Give us self regen
precisely what I just said? I want it to stay as is
@north tendon nothing new buddy. "beauty" or nothing unique
didnt play mobos so cant comment on that but pretty sure overwatch has its own unique elements
maybe nothing too big sure
but still its own thing
lol thought so
League of Legends, Dota 2, r6Rogue
Like almost every multiplayer game, even csgo has some sort of role system
yes but I meant more like gameplay scenarios
sure they do
doesnt mean overwatch has its own charm with roles
doesnt have*
and I dont recall calling it unique really
but still, I see it as good inspiration
Csgo have role system? What?
I dont think any CSGO third party ladder have that but ok
only in high levels of play
Define high level.
esports
@grizzled mulch yep, true**
And systems like rank S plus FaceIt does not have role queue
... ☮
So im not quite sure if you know what you are talking about here.....
LOL? Yeah. DOTA2? Not sure. CSGO? Nah
Role queue only really present in LoL ladder
And possibly DOTA2
But to say all multiplayers games have role queue is very wrong
@jagged crater ayy
someone noticed my power rankings
If you're gonna queue for silver soloQ then yeah, CSGO doesn't have roles
But anything above that, everybody knows what you're doing
The basic three are Entry/Awp/Support
Awp?
Sniper
I wtached the Shock vs Fusion game today, but then couldnt watch the other two matches today cos of work. Scores make it look like they were a bit one sided & no surprise given the teams. Are they worth watching, or just give them a miss ?
honestly the games themselves were very close. Note that it is a 1-2, not a 1-3. There was a tied map
For which series?
I don't think they are worth watching
Oh you meant Shock and Fusion
The rest today aren't worth it
yeah i saw the Shock and Fusion one. It was good. The other two i didnt see, they look like they were significantly more one sided and not sure if i should invest the time watching those ones.
ta
I said they weren't alr
If Vods rn aren't worth time for the mayhem & dragons getting rolled for the next few hours (I watched Last bit of shanghai VS Houston), it'll make a good sleep remedy
Gido and Xepher played for Dynasty, worth watching for sure if you want to see a couple new people on the stage
And watching Dynasty slaughter is always enjoyable

is it true diya had a mental breakdown and screamed out his ass?
someone on gfaqs said that was the case
screamed out his ass
what
yeah someone said diya burst into tears and had a mental breakdown
didnt hear about that, but i guess seeing the situation hes in i dont think its unthinkable
it was an argument against those who would rather have a losing local team than a winning import team they have nothing in common with...the person said well then you get the shanghai dragons who are one step away from just breaking their controllers
and keyboards in this case
the argument was that if you try to be local or true to what your base team name is then You'll just be full of terrible players who want the nightmare to end
only week 2 x d
many many weeks to go
well that seems to be unproven heresay so dont count on that, that being said SHD is really a letdown
but then again, they have the coach of LGD and LGD is not exactly known for beiing a great org
so if this was the case then is diya stupid for breaking down and crying after their last match?
SHD is a letdown but it seems like even the players themselves don't want to be here
well young people being in a country all across the globe from their family apparently getting worked to the bone and not showing any results so far, of course there's going to be remorse and anger in the players
and even the fandom seems bored with them already calling shanghai matches easy to call
Diya broke down ? How did I miss on that ..
I mean it is sad but they r new to this, I hope they get better in the coming years.
shanghai might be the worst team but
not by much
easily within striking distance of mayhem and outlaws and boston
outlaws bodied them
especially mayhem
i don't think they've played yet
junkertown SHD got 33 metres distance pushed while outlaws finished the map with 245 seconds
they played last night
oh
someone said the seoul dynasty could win their next match if they were all blindfolded and being slapped with frozen fish
for some reason
But hella true
I’m surprised the LA valiant r ahead of them
valiant didn't lose a map to fuel
is the only difference
seoul shouldn't have either
it sucks being sick and realizing snorks that the one game my team might win I'll have to snork miss
Controversial, but what do you guys think?
not sure it's controversial
however
how far behind the next worst team is shanghai
i'm not trying to disregard any of the more salient points made in that post
I really need to watch some more OWL
what teams would you guys recommend watching??
These are today's/tomorrow's games https://i.imgur.com/fYeY0PH.png @dawwww#2522
All three are pretty great to catch
right
Dallas/Houston is the beginning of the Texan rivalry
NYXL/Valiant is Valiant's first match against a Korean team after not dropping a map in week 1
I'll be sure to check those out then, ty
And Philly/LA is a good match to solidify where each team sits on the totem pole at the moment
There'll be an announcement in #esports-news 10 minutes before the broadcast begins
texan rivalry :tracerkek:
You might not consider it but the fans of both teams will get into it, especially those actually in the cities
Battle for Ten-xas
dallas and houston being rivals would be bad news for dallas
I like how their rivalry is in different divisions too lol
p sure there’s a stage where they don’t play at all too
i think division only matters for playoff seeds (slightly) and for determining which teams you'll play 3 times instead of 4 times throughout the season
Yes
Which is my point
They don’t play a round
Dallas plays both LA teams more than they play Houston
IDK, maybe Houston has a shot
it all depends on dallas i think
because i think Houston has been performing about to the expected & same level
= worst team? 😛
yea prob
for starters, chinese management corruption made a suboptimal shanghai roster
what is the alleged corruption
earlier thread didn't specify
bribes for player slots?
nepotism
which player(s)?
Dates back to the World Cup even, lets see if I can find something
methinks
Basically yeah
wait
is it just me or did they pull the shanghai vod
only see SF v Fusion & Florida v dynasty
it's live on twitch rebroadcast rn though
vod is still on twitch too
Give it awhile they only had the 1st match a couple of hours ago
Can we just talk about how hard SHADOWBURN showed up last night against the shock
Like people talk about fleta pine and effect but I'll be damned if SHADOWBURN didn't show off some top teir shit
Hell yeah
Wait that thumbnail is a spoiler why
Anyway
He got 2 Dragonblades on Anubis within 30 seconds
Deadass?
eSports discussion btw 🤔
well shes top 500
nothing to do with eSports tho
thats a good player, thats not a professional at the game
hes not in a tier1-3 team competing in tourneys is he?
Fine
or she
well then what channel
dont ask me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Pretty shit
probably his own twitch viewer discord or something
or whoever cares about it
but someones gender hardly has anything to do with eSports discussion
Are their any females in the league?
not atm
theres been some controversy about it
theres been some that should be able to play in it afaik, like geguri
skill wise at least
I haven't really seen a lot of women play this game super competeivly
I dont go out of my way to watch any either
geguri is the only one that comes to mind for me that plays in a good team
There's a lot of great free agents still out there, don't think it has anything to do with gender
Has Fuel won yet?
Because I've watched like 2 or 3 games and they lost all of them so I pretty much gave up on watching
they lost their 2 matches so far, against seoul was a really good and mostly close game, against Valiant they kinda looked sluggish
imo that is
Agreed, it kinda looks like they tilt somewhat after a map loss
lmao, florida's cap on horizon
I'm watching the vods of the last two matches
fleta sniping with junk mines 
the only one thats really been convincing at shock so far was nevix imo
and sadly dhak is on mercy duty and cant lucio 
what about babybay?
i mean hes been shining when he has space, but didnt seem to hold up when he gets pressured
Haven't been completely blown away by him tbh
oh he definitely popped off, especially on their first game
still wondering why we havent seen a single second of IDDQD so far
hey how can Boston not be playing tonight, they didnt play yesterday either?
oh nvm theyre up tomorrow
silly me
oh and theyre playing Seoul, kill me
IDDQD has been ill afaik
Even if he's better now, he hasnt scrimmed as much
The real question is where is Mendo :(
it's gonna be hard for anyone to beat seoul
Valiant might
I mean to be fair they Seoul has only lost one round at that was to Dallas
Gotta give em props for that
I think NYXL will be the closest to them from what we've seen so far
It must be fun being the Dragons or Mayhem right now
as long as mayhem beats dragons, maybe shock and has a lot of 2:3 I'm happy
