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whole mulch
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that's actually surprising

balmy wolf
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Freekill zaryalol

whole mulch
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winston is the aggressive one

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once he dives he gets focused

daring widget
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I feel like shanghai would struggle even in 6 stacking in comp lol

copper latch
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Muma times his dives well though. he tends to make it out.

whole mulch
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I'm watching shanghai's tanks

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really uncoordinated

copper latch
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man needs a hair cut

runic stag
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you take that back

tired anvil
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"anime is real". these are some funny commentators.

copper latch
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Now Johnny Unitas, theres a haircut you could set your watch to

thorn forum
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this is pathetic

copper latch
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we get to see boink practice his mercy so thats nice

balmy wolf
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Freekill zaryalol

copper latch
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what is muma up to

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he is flanking!

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Monkey flank!

balmy wolf
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THE MAD MAN

thorn forum
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YEA

balmy wolf
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RIP shangai

thorn forum
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AND THEY GET THE POINT\

balmy wolf
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G'DAY

runic stag
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jesus

copper latch
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Green wall > Great wall?

balmy wolf
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rip shanghai dragons

fluid aurora
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Shanghai

balmy wolf
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they will be forgotten

fluid aurora
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Get at least 1 pls

balmy wolf
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that is next to impossible for them right now
unless they get their shit together

thorn forum
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this is biggest face roll match i have seen so far

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at least mayhem put up a fight against seoul

north tendon
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did I miss out on anything exciting today, just waiting for tomorrow tbh

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seems like stomps everywhere

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any cool plays/highlights

thorn forum
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fisrt match was 2-3

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yea some great widow plays

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mayhem and dynasty

north tendon
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ah

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fleta popping?

sullen berry
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O forgot its Thursday aka tomorrow for first games this week

thorn forum
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and tviq

sullen berry
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I need to visit these Seoul and LA plays

thorn forum
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fleta and tviq hrd for me to say who went bettter there

north tendon
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@sullen berry Pine gonna rip you guys, NYXL represent!

idle beacon
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houston gettin whooped by fuel in 17hrs

sullen berry
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Eeee @north tendon

thorn forum
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idk i think thatll be a good match

idle beacon
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nyxl gettin whoop'd by val today

sullen berry
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Pine subbing in to save it from being a roll match LAValiant

thorn forum
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val is pretty great too

north tendon
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ahaha, hes just our trump card

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I trust sbb

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and jjonak

idle beacon
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pine sucked on any other map except for that pithole map on illios

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sry to say that .. but that's a fact

thorn forum
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thats the only map he played

idle beacon
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nah he played 2 illios map last time

north tendon
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idc about preseason

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but sure rub it on this season

idle beacon
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and was bad @ ruins

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but ye, feels bad to be shanghai dragons :/

copper latch
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Jake not on Junkrat! yay!

thorn forum
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no way they arent tilted AF

dawn bison
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Are they trying?

thorn forum
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every map has been about the same

copper latch
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that Money dive is so bad

thorn forum
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they win 1 or 2 team fights but barely

idle beacon
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oh dragons defending and lost the point already

thorn forum
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and then houston steamrolls

dark bear
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This is might be a stupid question but are Shanghai dragons composed of Chinese people?

thorn forum
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they are

north tendon
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yes

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and not even good ones

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but idk how it works

dawn bison
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obviously

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about the good players

idle beacon
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it seems it has been some fuckup by some coach

north tendon
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just making sure no one thinks china sucks ow wise

idle beacon
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favouring his old team mates over the best chinese team

thorn forum
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they are not acting as a team

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watch em, spread everywhere

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tanks arent leading

sullen berry
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Oh I didn't even know the ultimate underdogs are playing

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Like right now

north tendon
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they make boston look top tier

sullen berry
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Rawkus has morning hair

idle beacon
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i think imma watch tv now

thorn forum
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muma is really starting to grow on me

copper latch
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This is a good build up for Houston before playing Dallas tomorrow.

daring widget
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I hate how jake looks like an all star in this match but its just because theyre literally playing against garbage

north tendon
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adding dragons in for that team morale

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lul

forest wharf
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shanghai sucked so hard they broke sound on stream

idle beacon
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@daring widget 😃

dark bear
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Lol I️ mean Jake is one of the best is he not? Except for South Koreans

sullen berry
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I got Shanghai dragons hanzo out of sympathy ShanghaiDragons

north tendon
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shhh let the outlaws fans have something

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they will break soon enough

dark bear
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But being Korean is cheating

north tendon
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lol obi

daring widget
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Even casters said jake was only efficient on the rat

idle beacon
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@north tendon 😂

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ye because he was able to spam balls af

sullen berry
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Unrelated, my hanzo play feels so much better at the game Cafes with it

north tendon
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jakerat is only good as jakerat

sullen berry
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No shame in dying on deathmatch

forest wharf
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oh god i thought it was over. please just let them die

north tendon
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his pharah stats were terrible last time

thorn forum
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seelook at them

daring widget
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He can play other heroes this game because shanghai is literally garbage

thorn forum
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dive tanks

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and they just sit up top

north tendon
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well yeah shanghai is quick play

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lmao

thorn forum
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but can you do this

forest wharf
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undead is dead af

thorn forum
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waht jake did

kindred pivot
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shanghi is dead lol

north tendon
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shanghai needs rez

kindred pivot
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shanghai needs better players

idle beacon
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@thorn forum yes i can

copper latch
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that was just mean

thorn forum
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lol

dawn bison
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Shanghai needs to get help

daring widget
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Shanghai needs mercy buff only for them

dark bear
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I’m not sure who to cheer for cause I’m half shanghainese. I’m just gonna go with Houston because they’re winning

dawn bison
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in every way possible

north tendon
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owl counselling? lul

dawn bison
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emotional help

north tendon
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meep, if my team was that bad, I would say fuck it about representation

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this isnt even fun to get behind

copper latch
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Aww I wanted that battle mercy kill

idle beacon
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17hrs .. and outlaws will feel ill

fluid aurora
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Mercy payload

sullen berry
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@dark bear I had this feeling when NZ was getting rolled, hard to support your own country when the players are unrelatable

thorn forum
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is anyone on the p[ayload

forest wharf
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ugh why are they even taking the point?

dark bear
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The casters only view from the point of view of Houston mostly too

thorn forum
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did they all run off of it

idle beacon
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lol noone on payload

thorn forum
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yea i thought so

idle beacon
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REALLY?????

thorn forum
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oh a zen

north tendon
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watch shanghai dragons buy some koreans for S2

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lmao

copper latch
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what!

thorn forum
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agressive greetings

shell saffron
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mmmm shanghai

idle beacon
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lol

shell saffron
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oh shanghai

idle beacon
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being so bigmouth'd

shell saffron
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you let a winston actually just jump on you guys

idle beacon
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i freakin dislike fake now

dawn bison
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each of them are just doing their own thing, like this is what happens in gold games

copper latch
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they walked right by a giant monkey...

north tendon
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what is that mercy

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lol

forest wharf
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undead has ironically died like 500 times

sullen berry
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I don't know how Diya plays the way he does, as if he chokes and gets lucky streaks in between lulls

idle beacon
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so good pls

thorn forum
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RAWKUS WTF BRO

dark bear
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Ooh spicy contest

dawn bison
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what the fuck was that nuke

shell saffron
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it's not a c9

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so toxic

copper latch
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gg Shanghai.

thorn forum
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wasnt a c9

dark bear
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How is China so bad I️ feel like China should kill at esports

sullen berry
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Three rows supporting shanghai 😔

pastel meteor
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Shanghai is a gold team

idle beacon
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fuck outlaws

copper latch
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do they have custom pants too?

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never noticed

dawn bison
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yeah it wasnt a c9 they didnt want to play anymore

idle beacon
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gonna get ripped apart in 17hrs

pastel meteor
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They're so trash they don't deserve to be in OWL

sullen berry
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OWL isn't their territory @dark bear, frankly this isn't the team the fans wanted as far as best players go

idle beacon
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@pastel meteor still, they all get 50k $ 😃

thorn forum
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id suck a penis to get paid 50k a year and travel the world to play OW

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so good for them

pastel meteor
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And they still get humiliated in front of hundreds of thousands of people

idle beacon
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ye but only 1 time

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i doubt these chinese players will come back for another season

lyric harbor
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rip shanghai dragons

thorn forum
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i really, looking at there team work

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wuold prob blame there coaches

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thats why they are so terrible they are pussyfootting around

idle beacon
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well as @whole mulch or someone said .. i think @gaunt acorn .. there was some fuckup by some coach

hidden vault
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I really hope shanghai would comeback with better players

thorn forum
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they cap points on last few seconds because they need to push in

pastel meteor
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It's communism to blame

gaunt acorn
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not a coach, an executive for blizzard chinas esports division

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it was straight up nepotism

idle beacon
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oh .. even worse

gaunt acorn
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gave the team slot to his former teammates

hidden vault
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they really have many strong Overwatch players in their Country

gaunt acorn
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instead of the best candidates

north tendon
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no wonder

gaunt acorn
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so Miraculous Youngster got screwed and disbanded

hidden vault
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for World Cup and Overwatch League

idle beacon
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and all others agreed with that executive?

hidden vault
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there was a 4th executive added

gaunt acorn
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china has plenty of strong overwatch talent

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they just didnt get selected

idle beacon
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just sad

pastel meteor
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They need to practice

gaunt acorn
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every other team is practicing too

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how can you expect a team so far behind the rest to reach the same level

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unless they practice twice as much

pastel meteor
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I don't expect them too

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But they need to at least try

gaunt acorn
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shanghai is probably going to finish season 1 in last place

idle beacon
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triple as much

gaunt acorn
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big words considering we're only a week in, i know

pastel meteor
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They're so trash they should just quit

gaunt acorn
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but frankly someone is gonna come in last place

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and shanghai seems most likely

thorn forum
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i feel like they would have done better rein zarya with there less divy comp

pastel meteor
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Some dude looked like he was about to cry

daring widget
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They should just buy runaways roster

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LUl

gaunt acorn
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no

idle beacon
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did mayhem play vs dragons already?

gaunt acorn
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save runaway for a season 2 team

pastel meteor
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Some other guy said he was "born to play dps"

gaunt acorn
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also kaiser is a free agent

daring widget
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Korean roster for chinese team

gaunt acorn
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he'll prob get picked up soon

pastel meteor
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And got rekt

gaunt acorn
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i'd like to see seoul or london pick him up

thorn forum
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diya

daring widget
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I thought kaiser was in runaway

gaunt acorn
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nope

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left in december

daring widget
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He was playin in apex

pastel meteor
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How are you born to play dps when overwatch came out after you were born

daring widget
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He went to c9 then back to runaway

idle beacon
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@pastel meteor lol

thorn forum
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^

daring widget
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Oh

tired anvil
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Born to play an attacker. DPS fits into most team based shooters.

idle beacon
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there are other dps games out there

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😃

raven violet
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I felt some braincells die

pastel meteor
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It's so funny watching shanghai get annihilated

final river
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when will the map pool change?

tired anvil
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In like 3 weeks or something during stage 2 I think

thorn forum
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anyone from ECT

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waht time is ECT to PT

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4 hours?

final river
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I see, thnx

hidden vault
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@pastel meteor it was diya

pastel meteor
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I feel bad for shanghai

idle beacon
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oh what a cute chinese lady ❤

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cheerin for diya .. she's doing it wrong, eh

pastel meteor
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They're so out of their league

hidden vault
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@daring widget The Chinese are too proud to let members from another country play for them

idle beacon
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lol

gaunt acorn
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they get free 50k/yr salaries despite not even being qualified for the spot

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dont feel too bad for them

idle beacon
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50k a year

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or per season?

pastel meteor
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They need to get rid of that pride if they want to win this then

sullen berry
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^^

gaunt acorn
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i mean, its not their fault for the nepotism

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but still

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it's not like they don't get paid if they lose

pastel meteor
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50k/yr for playing OW

hidden vault
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Not their fault?

gaunt acorn
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per season, sorry

hidden vault
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They probably had a part in it

gaunt acorn
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we have no idea if they did or didn't

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but i'd rather not make baseless accusations

idle beacon
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so ye .. 50k .. for playin OW .. i woudn't give a fuck if i'd be on the last spot .. 😄

hidden vault
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I mean this happened for World Cup and League

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Wtf

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Is bilzzard even doing anything?

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Anyways well #notmycountry

pastel meteor
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I would care if I was getting my ass kicked constantly

north tendon
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kaiser and whoru on a new s2 team

pastel meteor
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I don't wanna look like a fool

north tendon
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i would get behind that

hidden vault
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anyways what's the story on Miraculous Youngster?

gaunt acorn
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arguably the best team in china before disbanding

worn falcon
gaunt acorn
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got snubbed for the shanghai spot

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then quit overwatch and disbanded

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now they mostly play PUBG i think

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sad, they were extremely talented

pastel meteor
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Gn

gaunt acorn
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they nearly 3-0'd lunatic-hai

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(now seoul dynasty)

hidden vault
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why were they screwed?

gaunt acorn
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because of the nepotism we've been talking about

hidden vault
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and what was Seoul's original team?

gaunt acorn
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they deserved the spot by all means

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seoul used to be lunatic-hai

north tendon
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lunatic hai

gaunt acorn
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the most prestigious korean ow team

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or most prestigious ow team in general

hidden vault
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hopefully they would comeback next league

gaunt acorn
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nope

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they disbanded and quit overwatch

idle beacon
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heh .. and all these dumbasty fans thought dumbesty is unbeatable 😄

north tendon
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feelsbad

hidden vault
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or come back with better players

gaunt acorn
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after being screwed out of the team spot

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there is no Miraculous Youngster now

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thats what disbanding entails

daring widget
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Does anyone know if whoru still holds a spot in seoul?

gaunt acorn
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most of them moved on to competitive PUBG or other shooters

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no he cant play ben

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he is on lunatic-hai still

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he's only 16

worn falcon
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btw is harbleu looking for a team for contenders or something like that?

daring widget
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Yeah but like

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After

gaunt acorn
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he will play for seoul when he's 18, yes

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that's a given

north tendon
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I wish owl would chill with that agre restriction

gaunt acorn
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but that would be by season 3

north tendon
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so much talent wasted

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age*

hidden vault
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you need to be 18 to play? 🤦

daring widget
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Lol

north tendon
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apparently

gaunt acorn
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in OWL, yes

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to sign a contract

hidden vault
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wtf

gaunt acorn
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this is standard practice for professional sports

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there are no 16 yr olds in the NHL or MLB

hidden vault
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I saw some of them who are age 17

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well

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I can be 12 and opaf

north tendon
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ok but why is something like APEX fine but not OWL?

gaunt acorn
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because they dont sign contracts to play in a league for APEX

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its just a tournament

idle beacon
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there is a u18 worldcup football league 😃

north tendon
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ah

sullen berry
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Country regulations vary

gaunt acorn
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this is a pro esports league with teams and contracts

hidden vault
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is it possible for shanghai to comeback with proper teams next year?

gaunt acorn
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they could sack their current roster and recruit new players, sure

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i think it's unlikely though

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unless management changes

hidden vault
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well

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larry stepped down

daring widget
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I hope rascal plays on friday, its only been birdring profit

north tendon
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I cant imagine their owner beind happy tho

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haha

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being*

idle beacon
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well there will be other teams for season2 ..

hidden vault
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plus can't china have another qualifying team?

idle beacon
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it won't be the same 12 teams every season

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right?

gaunt acorn
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@idle beacon yes

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s2 will have more teams

daring widget
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Isnt it like 2.5 million buy in or something

gaunt acorn
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potentially even double

north tendon
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the plan is to expand

idle beacon
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again qualifiers and stuff

hidden vault
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maybe beijing or smth

north tendon
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some were waiting to see if owl was worth it

gaunt acorn
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20 million @daring widget

north tendon
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which it is imo

daring widget
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Woah

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Damn

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Lol

idle beacon
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20 mills for a team

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right?

north tendon
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ye

gaunt acorn
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it's not unlikely we'll get another 12 teams for season 2, making a grand total of 24 teams

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mostly in europe

idle beacon
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so all the players, the coaches, analysts .. etc pp

daring widget
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If only i was rich, then ill recruit bronze players

gaunt acorn
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probably one in toronto

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definitely another korean and chinese team

north tendon
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that would be a lot more exciting, its so easy to predict the top 3 atm

hidden vault
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so many bronze players to recruit

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lulz

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beijing?

gaunt acorn
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i did predictions awhile back, actually

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tleft Overwatch League S2 Predictions: tright
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Atlantic Division:

  • Paris
  • Berlin
  • Chicago
  • Toronto
  • Stockholm
  • Rio de Janeiro
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    Pacific Division:
  • Seattle
  • Tokyo
  • Beijing
  • Sydney
  • Phoenix
  • Busan
hidden vault
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what are they?

idle beacon
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imma scrimm af .. and join some eu team for season2

daring widget
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I forgot japan

gaunt acorn
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imo the least likely is probably rio de janeiro

daring widget
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Aktm was insane

idle beacon
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yea .. berlin

daring widget
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In world cup

gaunt acorn
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japan doesnt have a huge overwatch scene, but that didnt stop the london team from hiring a bunch of koreans so who knows

idle beacon
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berliner wölfe

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heh

daring widget
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I feel like their world cup team did alright

north tendon
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I...dont think Japan is the type to do that

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but who knows

gaunt acorn
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you could swap Rio de Janeiro for Copenhagen or Amsterdam tbh

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yeah Japan is a little xenophobic but

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it's not out of the question

idle beacon
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amsterdam lol

gaunt acorn
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dutch had some good talent at world cup

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i wouldnt dismiss them

hidden vault
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many more American teams

idle beacon
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they did?

hidden vault
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too many American teams

gaunt acorn
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well obviously not good enough to be top 8 but certainly not awful

hidden vault
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and I hope to see a South East Asian team

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have lit players like mickie

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well only mickie right now

gaunt acorn
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american teams are much easier to get franchised so we'll see more added in s2

north tendon
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mickie feels washed up so far

idle beacon
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btw.. why hasn't GODS been signed to a OWL team?

north tendon
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hope that changes

gaunt acorn
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hence my inclusion of chicago, seattle, phoenix

hidden vault
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why much easier to franchise?

daring widget
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Add kephrii to an owl team kappa

north tendon
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I thought harb would be in owl

gaunt acorn
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because theres an established scene in america already and a lot more esports orgs based there

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and sports owners looking to buy an esports team

daring widget
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I think calvin would be interesting to be owl

idle beacon
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so what happened to GODS?

hidden vault
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hmm not south korea?

kindred brook
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The best Chinese team didn't get picked up for shanghai

gaunt acorn
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GODS is a free agent along with AKM

north tendon
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if I heard right hes seeing if its worth it for s2

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would be sick

kindred brook
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They had underage kids on the roster

gaunt acorn
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he'll probably get signed to the same team AKM does

idle beacon
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ah ok

kindred brook
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Were arguably top4 team in the world

north tendon
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AKM is a monster

kindred brook
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A lot of those guys quit ow tho so I don't know what pool Shanghai has to fall back on

north tendon
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he even rekt flower on pharah

daring widget
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Did they 100% quit

kindred brook
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Yea the team disbanded

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Some went to pubg

hidden vault
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Feels weird looking at teams like London and New York with !00% koreans

daring widget
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Damn

kindred brook
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I think some might be in ow still I can't remember

gaunt acorn
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hey man, so long as they win

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go new york

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haha

daring widget
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Itd be nice if they got together if they were offered a spot

north tendon
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if you think of it of something like chelsea and madrid

idle beacon
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imma fetch some sleep .. l8r dudes&dudettes

north tendon
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its not too surprising

kindred brook
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It would be weirder for those teams to have all Americans NicetoEar

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T*

north tendon
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see ya

kindred brook
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Not having Koreans would just make it a second rate league in comparison to Korean contenders

hidden vault
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Well at least not all koreas

kindred brook
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Mix teams are also a weird idea

hidden vault
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but the koreans can't sponsor their own teams?

kindred brook
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Breaking up establishes rosters for money

north tendon
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you would be lying if you deny new yorkers arent thankful for a player like pine over some medicore home player

kindred brook
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No sports have only local players

daring widget
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We need more african americans in te OWL

kindred brook
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It's weird that it's full Korean but

hidden vault
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rosters acan be established again

daring widget
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Full african roster

gaunt acorn
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busan will surely get a team in s2 which will lead to an interesting rivalry vs seoul

hidden vault
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and might be even better

kindred brook
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The alternative is having a bunch of Korean cities being represented

gaunt acorn
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multiple korean teams will be cool

hidden vault
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GC busan lul

daring widget
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The madagascar cheetahs

kindred brook
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Korea would need to have like 4 cities at least

hidden vault
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but they are in london

gaunt acorn
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busan is a city

north tendon
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just let the OWL be all korean superstars

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lmao

hidden vault
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Busan Seoul where else?

daring widget
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Runaway could represent busan

gaunt acorn
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thats my thinking

hidden vault
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I hoenstly though GC Busan would represent Busan lol in the end they went to london 🤦

daring widget
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They were bought by c9

kindred brook
#

There was no Busan franchise what choice did they have really

north tendon
#

london is so stacked

daring widget
#

Japan would be interesting to see in OWL

north tendon
#

birdring and profit too good

full lion
#

turn nyxl into busan

kindred brook
#

If they had MY instead of Shanghai and like Runaway instead of maybe Florida, owl would be really stacked

north tendon
#

I feel bad for tviq and logix being on such a medicore team

#

tviq mostly

kindred brook
#

The rest of the players on that team aren't even that bad, they've just never done well as a team together

north tendon
#

yeah I guess

#

just names that dont pop out that much to me

daring widget
#

Why was lwblue recruited into nyxl over runaway

#

Seeing as they made it into the apex finals twice

hidden vault
north tendon
#

atleast they are still blue

gaunt acorn
#

runaway wasnt actively trying out for a spot

#

it wasnt a matter of them not being qualified

hidden vault
#

China was right at the top

#

WAS

#

not that I was from China but 🤷

#

wasted Talents

daring widget
#

Rip romania

north tendon
#

“We want to win. It’s simple as that, right? And the goal of this team is to win stuff. So if that’s the ultimate goal, then we need the best people that we can possibly get, and I think we’ve done that.”

#

true words

#

yea that sucks for china

hidden vault
#

China we want to win no?

#

they want coruption and nepotism

#

lul

north tendon
#

😦

daring widget
#

Rip china not #1

full lion
#

one would think that between the uk and nyc there should be at least one person who's good enough for owl

hidden vault
#

@gaunt acorn you might wanna inculde taipei in your list too

gaunt acorn
#

i excluded taipei for a reason

#

theres always a shaky political thing with taiwanese sports/esports teams coexisting with china

#

i think beijing will get a team but not taipei

hidden vault
#

hmm? they still made it for the world cup

spring lintel
#

Just be strict and kick shitty players

gaunt acorn
#

yeah with certain restrictions

spring lintel
#

Then you will see players not slacking off

gaunt acorn
#

i think china will be getting 1 new team in s2 and beijing is much more probable than taipei

#

it might even enrage some mainlanders if taipei got a team before beijing did

#

im not implying taipei isnt talented or anything

hidden vault
#

Taipei alr has a pool of players and it would be possible that they would

gaunt acorn
#

thats just the situation

spring lintel
#

I get it that keeping players is crucial for the stability of the league in long term BUT if there is no competition then what’s the point.

gaunt acorn
#

right but im not talking about talent here

hidden vault
#

since they got 1 team in, in world cup

#

I believe there is a chance

north tendon
#

" All OWL teams are currently working on their Contenders team, which will basically serve as the org’s academy team where they can grow talent and give those who don’t make the main roster a place to play."

#

actually didnt even know about that

#

thats cool

hidden vault
#

plus why Toronto and not Vancouver?

gaunt acorn
#

toronto has a bigger esports scene

balmy wolf
#

wow the viewership numbers dropped like crazy

gaunt acorn
#

and jeff kaplan literally mentioned this a week ago

#

that he wants to see a toronto team in s2

#

because their lead art designer is from toronto

#

i literally live in vancouver

#

its not like im being biased lmao

north tendon
#

I would check for tomorrow, cause like the games today were so easily one sided

gaunt acorn
#

toronto is just objectively more likely

north tendon
#

i cant imagine a lot caring

spring lintel
#

@balmy wolf cause matches are fucking boring

#

I literally can’t watch it because it’s so boring

north tendon
#

any game with dragons is a snooz fest

spring lintel
#

Delete mercy and junkrat

balmy wolf
#

@spring lintel with the boring matches plus 3 min ads after every round is really retarded (do they still do half time i was at work?)

gaunt acorn
#

today had 4 of the worst teams playing

#

tomorrow will be less ResidentSleeper

hidden vault
#

No teams from Finland, Denmark and Russia?

spring lintel
#

What if tier owl teams can go fall down to a new tier 2 league

#

Instead of contenders

gaunt acorn
#

russia doesnt have a big esports scene, no

#

finland and denmark are likely, i said

#

you can easily swap rio de janeiro for helsinki or copenhagen

north tendon
#

all that was missing today was boston

balmy wolf
#

it should be skill based not $$$, blizzard is doing everything wrong

north tendon
#

to make it a total skip

gaunt acorn
#

the issue is finding franchisees

#

thats really not how any sports organization works

balmy wolf
#

the espots skins should have the same hud as in the actual league games

spring lintel
#

Blizz needs to talk team owners and tell them to pick good players

#

And give them the ability to release players

#

Aka fire

gaunt acorn
#

@balmy wolf that will be fixed soon

#

its a bug/oversight

#

oh

#

you mean coloured hud

#

no nvm

north tendon
#

well, I cant imagine some of these guys staying next season

gaunt acorn
#

thought you mean the icon

#

that wont happen

spring lintel
#

They have to though

#

Sadly

balmy wolf
#

yeah the colored hud

north tendon
#

really? idk

spring lintel
#

The worse that can happen is for them to get benched

balmy wolf
#

and I really hate this form of region based team

#

the abilities look cool when its like white

viral bronze
#

oh heheyh

#

who won

balmy wolf
#

really sucks to have london filled with players from korea (+ny+

hidden vault
#

I like the white away skins though

gaunt acorn
#

well thats how every sports org in the world operates, pretty much

balmy wolf
#

lol

hidden vault
#

too bad we can't get them

north tendon
#

does it? its a great ass team

gaunt acorn
#

i dont see a problem with it

north tendon
#

its winning

#

what matters

#

they can have it like dragons

#

and enjoy being last place

spring lintel
#

Tmw is gonna be semi lit

balmy wolf
#

they still get paid and all they do is play games

spring lintel
#

Hopefully they won’t disappoint

hidden vault
#

I'm waiting on spitfire vs Excelisor

balmy wolf
#

i dont know which team i like

full lion
#

as someone from ny i have no real hometown pride for the team so nyxl being nyxl is kinda pointless to me

spring lintel
#

Nyxl is the best team period imo

balmy wolf
#

i just like the skins

north tendon
#

nyxl vs val cant wait

#

my boi pine gonna pop off

spring lintel
#

I think it will be a stomp

#

And i will love it cause of pine

north tendon
#

I hope so

#

nyxl fighting

viral bronze
#

yayaya seoul dynast lost nothingg

spring lintel
#

VAL are systematic if that makes sense

#

They are so organized

viral bronze
#

seoul dynasty should be nerfed

spring lintel
#

Seoul dynasty are yet to be tested lul

#

The only teams that can test them are nyxl and london maybe

#

The rest are 2nd tier trash sadly

#

Within the league ofc

viral bronze
#

i thought dallas fuel was good

spring lintel
#

They have potential

hidden vault
#

xQc

viral bronze
#

i liked xqc

spring lintel
#

He is good

#

But they have coms issues and so on

#

“So on”

#

so on

balmy wolf
#

its just 2nd week and its already xqcSleeper , really had high hope on owl... imagine watching month of these xqcSleeper matches

north tendon
#

if dallas gets their shit together they can contend

viral bronze
#

ive seen those xqc rage videos

north tendon
#

but not right now

spring lintel
#

^

balmy wolf
#

do they play eachother twice?

spring lintel
#

Exactly what shidou said

#

They get their shit together they have potential to win it all

balmy wolf
#

@north tendon they need to stop pandering and have a solid 6 team roster and have subs for special maps only

north tendon
#

effect talked about how he felt like crying after that soon backcap and it really feels like hes working a lot harder than the others

viral bronze
#

does xqc get mad alot

north tendon
#

plus he cant trust to tracer with his tanks

balmy wolf
#

xqc doesnt get mad in stage, he is stable genius

north tendon
#

yea sure kallen

viral bronze
#

is his twitch streams a act

spring lintel
#

Can’t wait for the drama inside their team

balmy wolf
#

not an act.

spring lintel
#

The only act is his official DF videos 😂

north tendon
#

he did say he was worried about being unconsciously toxic to his teammates

#

but cant blame him

hidden vault
#

I heard xQc is pretty arrogant

spring lintel
#

The opposite

#

Until he played for DF

#

They said he wasn’t confident in himself

viral bronze
#

wasnt he banned for reporting people for random stuff

spring lintel
#

And he got it in pre season i think or something

balmy wolf
#

he is very quiet in the team

north tendon
#

I thought xqc was stupid until they made an interview with him

#

i think its just for fun

viral bronze
#

seagull is smart

balmy wolf
#

seagull is outdated now

spring lintel
#

Seagull washed up

balmy wolf
#

yeah washed up

spring lintel
#

Any random high ranked player plays like him

north tendon
#

seagull needs to get back in the pro groove

#

his hanzo was cool tho

spring lintel
#

I find it weird that we don’t have players that don’t miss shots

balmy wolf
#

after nrg seagull is 😴

spring lintel
#

Why don’t csgo pros come to overwatch

balmy wolf
#

@spring lintel lol u dont realy need to be skilled to be top at the game

spring lintel
#

I know it doesn’t transfer but they have gods aim

#

You do

#

Unless u wanna cheese ur way up there

balmy wolf
#

@spring lintel you need good game sense, aim all comes after

spring lintel
#

Not really you need aim unless u are playing a hero that doesn’t need aim

#

People highly ranked move in dodgy ways

balmy wolf
#

tanks are pretty much the carries now, if they know how to control dps, all gucci

spring lintel
#

Aiming at high lvls isn’t the same

#

No they are not

#

Lol wtf

#

Dps are the carries mostly

north tendon
#

right now you need someone with experience within overwatch itself

viral bronze
#

is fleta good dps

north tendon
#

map tricks and gamesense

#

all crucial

spring lintel
#

Yeah

north tendon
#

aim alone wont help

spring lintel
#

Everything is crucial

viral bronze
#

no

spring lintel
#

That’s why i think overwatch is harder than csgo

viral bronze
#

if u play symmetra u can camp a room

north tendon
#

symm is for scrub play tho

spring lintel
#

@north tendon aim is not obtainable from videos or knowledge

viral bronze
#

in csgo it is

north tendon
#

agreed

spring lintel
#

It takes a shit ton of time and it depends on your experience

viral bronze
#

u watch like spray patterns n stuff

spring lintel
#

And practice

north tendon
#

I think some people are just naturals too, but of course everyone practices hard

#

pine just blows me away

fervent temple
#

Lav vs nyxl who win

north tendon
#

its like hes above the usual pro level

#

I support nyxl so nyxl, but they also have a big chance if they play it right

#

val is not an easy team though for sure

fervent temple
#

But there's like almost no chance for lav winning right?

#

Cuz pine

viral bronze
#

xqc is winston main?

north tendon
#

they have good strats

fervent temple
#

Flower

north tendon
#

well pine always gets subbed after one map

#

I really hope we see him more

hidden vault
#

@fervent temple nyxl

viral bronze
#

has an american team beaten korea before

fervent temple
#

Ya I hope nyxl wrecks them

north tendon
#

cant wait for flower to join

fervent temple
#

O don't like California

north tendon
#

also cant forget jjonak

#

crazy zen and ana player

#

might even rival ryu

fervent temple
#

Yea

#

Sbb

north tendon
#

well zen was like 4th highest damage last week

#

in all teams

#

his zen*

fervent temple
#

Hey that's pretty good

north tendon
#

yea, besides that gold damage on anubis with like 14k

fervent temple
#

I just watched Shanghai

#

Shameful performance

viral bronze
#

is effect better then fleta

hidden vault
#

it's not the players but the nepositism

north tendon
#

dragons is a bronze team as far as owl is concerned

hidden vault
#

oppos

viral bronze
#

shanghai?

hidden vault
#

burn

viral bronze
#

why

hidden vault
#

ahahhaha

north tendon
#

but hey atleast you get to see your star players stomp in a match

#

more pine headshots

#

lul

#

for those spicy montages

viral bronze
#

they have tshirts for sale

fervent temple
#

Pine vs flower who's better

balmy wolf
#

the reason why overwatch is harder because of the game dynamic, of how if 1 player is dead in 5v6 there is no proper comeback compatibility

#

true

north tendon
#

coolfish hard to say cause I havent seen flower since world cup

#

but hey they are both in the same team

#

win win

fervent temple
#

Ya

north tendon
#

i think pine vs fleta or flower vs fleta is exciting

balmy wolf
#

even paladins is more balanced in this case**

viral bronze
#

no

#

yes

fervent temple
#

I prefer t he name applejuice69

#

He should have had that be his main name

north tendon
#

yea kallen the first pick is massive in overwatch

fervent temple
#

He would be a funny meme

north tendon
#

even statistics wise

#

if its someone like mercy too though

#

oh boi

viral bronze
#

did the pros playdoomfist

tired anvil
#

yes

balmy wolf
#

yeah

#

i forgot who

tired anvil
#

Everyone but Sym was used.

#

It was on a Dorado map.

spring lintel
#

Flower and pine on the same starting roster is a dream

north tendon
#

hydration was a doomfist main on ladder

balmy wolf
#

who played doomfist

north tendon
#

so he used him some

viral bronze
#

why no symmetra

north tendon
#

I think seoul did on dallas but they already won anyway

spring lintel
#

I feel picking up flower was so fucking dumb

balmy wolf
#

of course seoul played doomfist

spring lintel
#

They already have pine

balmy wolf
#

it doesnt have to be mercy even, with or without, overwatch is unbalanced and not skilled based

spring lintel
#

It is though

#

It’s a lot about team work too

north tendon
#

it can be pretty skill based

#

its just

#

the snowball effect is too strong

#

imo

#

2cp moreso

balmy wolf
#

yeah

#

decrease the dmg or introducing mercy passive for all heroes would be an actual good change.. and removing 1 /2 shot ability

#

1 hit 100%*

north tendon
#

I think mercy regen would make some heroes OP, mostly genji, imo, I would rather we get less self reliant characetrs

#

tracer is already a problem cause of that

#

characters*

#

team work also matters

#

I dont want more selfish play

#

the beauty of overwatch is how every character needs something to help strengthen their plays one way or the other

#

like fitting a puzzle

#

what I like anyway

balmy wolf
#

thats for every mobo game , what are u on xqcLUL

spring lintel
#

Fuck healers. Give us self regen

north tendon
#

precisely what I just said? I want it to stay as is

balmy wolf
#

@north tendon nothing new buddy. "beauty" or nothing unique

north tendon
#

didnt play mobos so cant comment on that but pretty sure overwatch has its own unique elements

#

maybe nothing too big sure

#

but still its own thing

balmy wolf
#

lol thought so

north tendon
#

yeah so if you actually wanna provide examples go ahead

#

or dont

balmy wolf
#

League of Legends, Dota 2, r6Rogue

#

Like almost every multiplayer game, even csgo has some sort of role system

north tendon
#

yes but I meant more like gameplay scenarios

#

sure they do

#

doesnt mean overwatch has its own charm with roles

#

doesnt have*

#

and I dont recall calling it unique really

#

but still, I see it as good inspiration

grizzled mulch
#

Csgo have role system? What?

balmy wolf
#

cewl

#

@grizzled mulch yeah xqcLUL

grizzled mulch
#

I dont think any CSGO third party ladder have that but ok

balmy wolf
#

only in high levels of play

grizzled mulch
#

Define high level.

balmy wolf
#

esports

grizzled mulch
#

Thats............not it.

#

CSGO in its pure essence doesnt have roles.

balmy wolf
#

@grizzled mulch yep, true**

grizzled mulch
#

And systems like rank S plus FaceIt does not have role queue

balmy wolf
#

... ☮

grizzled mulch
#

So im not quite sure if you know what you are talking about here.....

north tendon
#

definitely not like overwatch then lol

#

but I can see it for the other games

grizzled mulch
#

LOL? Yeah. DOTA2? Not sure. CSGO? Nah

#

Role queue only really present in LoL ladder

#

And possibly DOTA2

#

But to say all multiplayers games have role queue is very wrong

ruby wedge
#

@jagged crater ayy PogChamp someone noticed my power rankings

balmy wolf
#

If you're gonna queue for silver soloQ then yeah, CSGO doesn't have roles

#

But anything above that, everybody knows what you're doing

#

The basic three are Entry/Awp/Support

hidden vault
#

Awp?

spring lintel
#

Sniper

hardy jay
#

I wtached the Shock vs Fusion game today, but then couldnt watch the other two matches today cos of work. Scores make it look like they were a bit one sided & no surprise given the teams. Are they worth watching, or just give them a miss ?

tough holly
#

honestly the games themselves were very close. Note that it is a 1-2, not a 1-3. There was a tied map

hidden vault
#

For which series?

#

I don't think they are worth watching

#

Oh you meant Shock and Fusion

#

The rest today aren't worth it

hardy jay
#

yeah i saw the Shock and Fusion one. It was good. The other two i didnt see, they look like they were significantly more one sided and not sure if i should invest the time watching those ones.

#

ta

hidden vault
#

I said they weren't alr

sullen berry
#

If Vods rn aren't worth time for the mayhem & dragons getting rolled for the next few hours (I watched Last bit of shanghai VS Houston), it'll make a good sleep remedy

red anvil
#

Gido and Xepher played for Dynasty, worth watching for sure if you want to see a couple new people on the stage

#

And watching Dynasty slaughter is always enjoyable

rare tangle
#

is it true diya had a mental breakdown and screamed out his ass?

#

someone on gfaqs said that was the case

gaunt acorn
#

screamed out his ass
what

rare tangle
#

yeah someone said diya burst into tears and had a mental breakdown

scarlet spear
#

didnt hear about that, but i guess seeing the situation hes in i dont think its unthinkable

rare tangle
#

it was an argument against those who would rather have a losing local team than a winning import team they have nothing in common with...the person said well then you get the shanghai dragons who are one step away from just breaking their controllers

#

and keyboards in this case

#

the argument was that if you try to be local or true to what your base team name is then You'll just be full of terrible players who want the nightmare to end

slim summit
#

only week 2 x d

rare tangle
#

and yet someone broke down

#

why?

slim summit
#

many many weeks to go

scarlet spear
#

well that seems to be unproven heresay so dont count on that, that being said SHD is really a letdown

#

but then again, they have the coach of LGD and LGD is not exactly known for beiing a great org

rare tangle
#

so if this was the case then is diya stupid for breaking down and crying after their last match?

#

SHD is a letdown but it seems like even the players themselves don't want to be here

scarlet spear
#

well young people being in a country all across the globe from their family apparently getting worked to the bone and not showing any results so far, of course there's going to be remorse and anger in the players

rare tangle
#

and even the fandom seems bored with them already calling shanghai matches easy to call

outer trellis
#

Diya broke down ? How did I miss on that ..

#

I mean it is sad but they r new to this, I hope they get better in the coming years.

slim summit
#

shanghai might be the worst team but

#

not by much

#

easily within striking distance of mayhem and outlaws and boston

scarlet spear
#

outlaws bodied them

slim summit
#

especially mayhem

scarlet spear
#

didnt they?

slim summit
#

i don't think they've played yet

scarlet spear
#

junkertown SHD got 33 metres distance pushed while outlaws finished the map with 245 seconds

#

they played last night

slim summit
#

oh

scarlet spear
slim summit
#

just today

#

lol

rare tangle
#

someone said the seoul dynasty could win their next match if they were all blindfolded and being slapped with frozen fish

#

for some reason

outer trellis
#

Lol

#

That’s slightly mean ..

fresh arrow
#

But hella true

outer trellis
#

I’m surprised the LA valiant r ahead of them

slim summit
#

valiant didn't lose a map to fuel

#

is the only difference

#

seoul shouldn't have either

rare tangle
#

it sucks being sick and realizing snorks that the one game my team might win I'll have to snork miss

magic zinc
#

Controversial, but what do you guys think?

slim summit
#

not sure it's controversial

#

however

#

how far behind the next worst team is shanghai

#

i'm not trying to disregard any of the more salient points made in that post

modest elbow
#

I really need to watch some more OWL

#

what teams would you guys recommend watching??

forest raven
#

All three are pretty great to catch

modest elbow
#

right

forest raven
#

Dallas/Houston is the beginning of the Texan rivalry

#

NYXL/Valiant is Valiant's first match against a Korean team after not dropping a map in week 1

modest elbow
#

I'll be sure to check those out then, ty

forest raven
#

And Philly/LA is a good match to solidify where each team sits on the totem pole at the moment

#

There'll be an announcement in #esports-news 10 minutes before the broadcast begins

slim summit
#

texan rivalry :tracerkek:

forest raven
#

You might not consider it but the fans of both teams will get into it, especially those actually in the cities

deft valley
#

Battle for Ten-xas

slim summit
#

dallas and houston being rivals would be bad news for dallas

deft valley
#

I like how their rivalry is in different divisions too lol

#

p sure there’s a stage where they don’t play at all too

slim summit
#

i think division only matters for playoff seeds (slightly) and for determining which teams you'll play 3 times instead of 4 times throughout the season

forest raven
#

Yes

deft valley
#

Which is my point
They don’t play a round
Dallas plays both LA teams more than they play Houston

slim summit
#

IDK, maybe Houston has a shot

#

it all depends on dallas i think

#

because i think Houston has been performing about to the expected & same level

tight vault
#

ShanghaiDragons = worst team? 😛

jagged crater
#

yea prob

#

for starters, chinese management corruption made a suboptimal shanghai roster

slim summit
#

what is the alleged corruption

#

earlier thread didn't specify

#

bribes for player slots?

jagged crater
#

nepotism

slim summit
#

which player(s)?

magic zinc
#

Dates back to the World Cup even, lets see if I can find something

jagged crater
#

methinks

magic zinc
#

Basically yeah

slim summit
#

wait

#

is it just me or did they pull the shanghai vod

#

only see SF v Fusion & Florida v dynasty

#

it's live on twitch rebroadcast rn though

#

vod is still on twitch too

hidden vault
#

Give it awhile they only had the 1st match a couple of hours ago

jade stump
#

Can we just talk about how hard SHADOWBURN showed up last night against the shock

#

Like people talk about fleta pine and effect but I'll be damned if SHADOWBURN didn't show off some top teir shit

magic zinc
#

Hell yeah

#

Wait that thumbnail is a spoiler why

#

Anyway

#

He got 2 Dragonblades on Anubis within 30 seconds

balmy wolf
#

i just found out Kolorbastion is trans

#

identifies as a grill

long jewel
#

Deadass?

scarlet spear
#

eSports discussion btw 🤔

balmy wolf
#

well shes top 500

scarlet spear
#

nothing to do with eSports tho

balmy wolf
#

kolor is a pro

#

top 500 is pro

scarlet spear
#

thats a good player, thats not a professional at the game

#

hes not in a tier1-3 team competing in tourneys is he?

long jewel
#

Fine

scarlet spear
#

or she

long jewel
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So how about those Dallas fellas?

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Heard their doing

balmy wolf
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well then what channel

scarlet spear
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dont ask me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

long jewel
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Pretty shit

scarlet spear
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probably his own twitch viewer discord or something

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or whoever cares about it

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but someones gender hardly has anything to do with eSports discussion

long jewel
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Are their any females in the league?

scarlet spear
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not atm

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theres been some controversy about it

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theres been some that should be able to play in it afaik, like geguri

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skill wise at least

long jewel
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I haven't really seen a lot of women play this game super competeivly

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I dont go out of my way to watch any either

scarlet spear
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geguri is the only one that comes to mind for me that plays in a good team

magic zinc
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There's a lot of great free agents still out there, don't think it has anything to do with gender

long jewel
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Has Fuel won yet?

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Because I've watched like 2 or 3 games and they lost all of them so I pretty much gave up on watching

scarlet spear
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they lost their 2 matches so far, against seoul was a really good and mostly close game, against Valiant they kinda looked sluggish

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imo that is

magic zinc
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Agreed, it kinda looks like they tilt somewhat after a map loss

vagrant jacinth
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lmao, florida's cap on horizon

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I'm watching the vods of the last two matches

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fleta sniping with junk mines zaryalol

long jewel
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Shock looked like a promising team

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Until they lost to Fusion

scarlet spear
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the only one thats really been convincing at shock so far was nevix imo

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and sadly dhak is on mercy duty and cant lucio mercypls

vagrant jacinth
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what about babybay?

scarlet spear
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i mean hes been shining when he has space, but didnt seem to hold up when he gets pressured

magic zinc
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Haven't been completely blown away by him tbh

vagrant jacinth
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I get what you mean

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He does have his moments though

scarlet spear
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oh he definitely popped off, especially on their first game

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still wondering why we havent seen a single second of IDDQD so far

brave quarry
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hey how can Boston not be playing tonight, they didnt play yesterday either?

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oh nvm theyre up tomorrow

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silly me

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oh and theyre playing Seoul, kill me

magic zinc
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IDDQD has been ill afaik

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Even if he's better now, he hasnt scrimmed as much

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The real question is where is Mendo :(

vagrant jacinth
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it's gonna be hard for anyone to beat seoul

long jewel
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Valiant might

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I mean to be fair they Seoul has only lost one round at that was to Dallas

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Gotta give em props for that

magic zinc
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I think NYXL will be the closest to them from what we've seen so far

long jewel
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It must be fun being the Dragons or Mayhem right now

median shore
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as long as mayhem beats dragons, maybe shock and has a lot of 2:3 I'm happy

long jewel
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Has anyone heard of anyone on Fusion besides Carpe

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Because I haven't and I'm somewhat suprised by how much they've won