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Dynasty fighting!!!!!
Uh oh
Seoul skins are awesome but they not using the black ones that we see on OW why?
OH NO

THEY GOT OBLITERATED
NONONO
OH SHIT
yiss
oh nice
DESTROYED
holy shitt
WINNABLE
fuck
they're away for this match @marsh pumice
gg no re
GG SEOUL
Tara why did you jinx it 
They got fucking rekt
EZ CLAP
Gatekeepers my ass
O man, cmon Gladiators

nnn
They just fucking piledrived them
seoul y
@torpid charm haven't seen those black skins in any match yet
seoul fucked up
what happens if the game ties??
Randy Savage
Gladiators coming up and showing out, I love it
It's another 1min
they keep going i think
@prisma quest Tie
fleta still hasnt chosen
it keeps going with 1min in the time bank
@marsh pumice the dynasty had their black skins in the first match
Game can't tie; If the maps end up 2-2 they have a tie-breaker on Lijang
widow
until one team wins
@marsh pumice Houston hasn't been away once either, it just depends
yesterday junkerton got to 8-7
They arent using front choke
Seoul are slow starters, they just warming up
junkertown*
@prisma quest This will result in a 0-0 In the event of a 2-2 they play Lijang tie breaker
oh yeah they were home for the first match
@torpid charm oh i see what you mean thanks
FLETA HELLO
WHAT
what
Ouch
WHERE IS SHE
IS THAT ALLOWED?
Fleta wow
seoul can still lose tho
that Zen pick, diiiirty
unintended locations with fleta
:(
push the damn payload 
10 seconds
Died with a whimper
fucking rip shaz
ffs shaz
GOD DAMNIT FLETA
FLETA BABYYYY
DAT SNIPE
MMMMM GLADIATORS PLS
Holy friggin shit
SHAZ

wow
FLETA
FLETA IS CARRYING
FUCKING FLETA

RIP
not like this
gr
smh
YAS
not like this.....
GG
RIP Shaz


GG!
SEOUL WAS TOYING WITH THEIR FOOD BOYS 
WOOOOOW
Glads did good, cant lie
Damn poor shaz
@forest raven NOOOO SWEARING
Fleta carry

That was such a good run though
RIP

WOOOOOOOOOO

fleta op
props to LA
okay, but that way very entertaining to watch.
cant help that honestly
fuck ya'll unpatriots
Gladiators played well though

still
Ay that a pretty good match in general
mhm
I love how literally everyone says monkey instead of Winston
Its not like its shorter
unintended locations with fleta
kill the monkey!
Easier to pronounce
*scientist
Who's winston? you mean giant monkey?
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I hope the team consoles Shaz a bit
i think its slightly easier to say monkey
that's rough
Poor shaz
Imagine them using monkey against an African Esports team
he had such a good game
if wasn't for Fleta's unintended locations gladiators could had pushed
55 ELIMS
FOR HYDRA
WUT
I bet fleta didnt even mean to do that
I like the Spitfire logo best. They win my vote.
Fleta
I'm liking the music
Jeez

so is blizzard gonan hot fix that unintended location or what
I think the only adaptation they could've made
best logo
RyuJehong is nothing compared to JJ
dyNASTY
fleta jumped up there and aimed calmly, i think he knew what he was doing and that you can stand up there
is have bischu in front of shaz
probably will lol
55 elims, woooow
He 100% knew, you don't hook there for no reason
those stats lul
asher with 51
ASHER THO
9 kills 8 deaths
PogChamp
NO FUCKIN COMPARISION
asher holy shit
Asher was fraggin
Asher went bananas
was wekeed playing a different hero or something
yea

NO COMPARISON LMAO
๐ค
๐ค 
53 AS A TABK WHAT
he played skillrat
my god
bishu
dva comparisons
Jesus fuck
mmm

Gladiators played so much better
Gladiators deserved to win
Fuck me
They did but
ok
gladiators playing bette than seoul but
OW is a strategy game
but i like seoul
nah
QAQ
seoul has the clutch plays dode
and Seoul had the better strat for it
shut down shaz
and they let their best player do it
seoul put up a brick wall
yh Fleta with the insane plays
They deserved the w
I think Seoul plays it out better, know when to retreat, don't waste ults etc
LETS GO SUREFOUR
Surefour my boy!!!
but yeah I hope everyone on gladiators can psyche up shaz a bit
i just hope to see ryujehong on ana again ๐ฆ
So evn when Gladiators are putting up better stats, Seoul could be playing it smarter
dynasty gonna lose
WHERE is surefour
there he is
THERE HE IS
there
lul
woot
LANE ROBERTS
How do they voice chat if he speaks korean?????
oh shit
He's right there
THERE
LANE ROBERTS
Surefour
Bunny for wekeed
He probably understands English but isn't confident enough in speaking it
when the Korean says he wants to beat other Korean teams 
will they ever play different maps
oh that would make sense
lets go then
its always the same pool
Next stage
probably has enough context for overwatch but can't do an interview
Next stage my friend, hang in there
Hooo boy
this dva skin is sick so awesome
Horizon
didnt pay attention, who went out for surefour?
gosu
I wouldn't doubt it gold scrub
yeah asher
ah k
North Korea should get a team and then them and SK can settle the war with overwatch
they're starved lol
how are the maps determined
I feel like every match I watch on Horizon or Junkertown, I wanna die because it's either so good or so bad
just dive comp things
idk
lul
its been these maps all week
If you don't want people calling you gold scrub, then why do you have that as your nick? lol
There's a pre-determined Map Pool created
I hate watching junkertown
Just Dive comp things
"just dive comp things" LOVE these pop ups
Maybe they're putting all these maps in on purpose so we have the more fun maps later hmmm
m sad theres no ana
lets see if horizon is gonna be another shit show
Hey, did anyone see "game paused" in the first games today?
THE POINT
when mercy is nerfed into the dirt ana shall rize again
Yep
bishu gets greedy tho
after watching Fusion on Horizon, I wanted to have a heart attack.
yeah, what the heck?
rip
Immediatly loss
They looked so... powerless on that @torpid charm so sad
god damnit
brutal

HOW DID THEY GET A SO FAST
welp

wtf
Wanted to give Shadowburn a hug and tell him it would all be okay
point b already
FUCK EM UP
DUDE WHAT HAPPEND!!?!?!?!?
Fuckon rip
they threw
gladiators thorwing
gladiators goofed
FLETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
seoooooouuuuul
Well
omfg
LOOK AT FLETA LUL
4-0 4-0 4-0
6:13?!?!?!
damn
rip
and it snowballed
@magic zinc I feel that
whatttttttt
LOL
how much time?
did you see that gesture
fleta is so disgusting on widow
fuckin fleta

k.
TOO FAST
FUCKING
That didn't take much
FLETA
FOUR-O FOUR-O FOUR-O
god damn surefour
and now for the downfall
Fleta is a god fuckkkk
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of anyone facing seoul
SUREFOUR-O'D
47 seconds!
๐ 
Fleta going from hardcarrying flash lux to carrying LH 
that one devastated guy in the audience
I think them trying to recontest 1st point was a bad idea
rekt
moira???
how many died on 
Yeah for some reason they engaged there? And then got snowballed
mistimed
Looked like shot calling error
yea
Their tanks also kind of fed at the very start as well, especially Bischu
It took them 47 seconds to stomp there asses into the ground
I wanna see nyxl vs seoul so bad
Terrible dive
no mercy
i love that expression always has
AHH
OH SHIT
or spitefire vs nyxl
QUAD TANK
SK1 vs SK2
this is way better chat than the twitch chanel
haha
LETS GO QUAD TANK
ikr
no triple + genji
TEAM QUAD TANK
Wait, isn't it 1-0 right now?
i honestly love quad tank comps more than anything else
oh shit
quad tanks again
yeah
twitch is just a bunch of friggn emojis
2-0
YES QUAD TANK
QUAD TANK
even boobs
UI hasn't updated on it.
2 MUCH HP
#quadtankftw
JUST WALK INTO THE POINT
There it is lol
welp
@jade wing Thats why this exists
Kinda sad that quad tank doens't feature Ana :(
FLETA
FLETA FUCK OFF
fleta you BEAST
FUCKING FLETA
Fleta is fucking dirty omg
Bunny <3
God damnit
Bunny just cleaned up
Don't hate the player, hate the game. #NerfWidow
They need to dive Fleta
fleta
FLETA IS A GOD
ffleeta
I WANNA SEE ANAAAAAAAAA
@prisma quest I'm still getting used to discord. I love it so much
after a warm up
fleta new best plaer
pine off the rip tho
Fleta is best girl
Fleta is the MVP
plan is to focus one single person and tilt them.
UHHH HOW DID THAT SHATTER LAND?
FAT SHATTER
SHIELD RIGHT THERE
BYE FLETA
there was a gap
rip
hm
lol time bank tho
they didn't give up on quad tank instantly
Reaper? huh
the birth of a new meta !?
Fat grav incoming
so how is the winner decided for this whole league
SUREFOUR DIED WITH GRAV
@ me
KILL FLETA AGAIn
Fleta used a glitch?
triple?
NANI TF?
its quad
welp
Shaz has coalescence too
so many ults to pop off
AGAIN
Grav shatter, and coalesence combo
OMG
FUCK
FLETA
FLETA WEW
FLETA
NAISU NAISU
FLETA
HOOOOW
whow
FLETA THE GOD
HOLYT HSIHt
CALM DOWN
FLETA
FLETA IS CARRYING THE TEAM!!!
Beyblade Beyblade let it rip
lol
Bullying Dva
potg
So many particle effects @_@
Is that all?
lol he's lurking on top
Death comes unexpected and so does Reaper
I kinda hope they turn down Moira's Ult somewhat
and for fleta just now
o noes
valk op
You really can't see when its up
"edgelord reaper"
LAG almost did it there
they need a mercy xP
rip
fuckin' mercy
Wow nothing came out of that push
Its like watching a cat play with a mouse at this point.
fletas so good
Tobi
2CP Magic <3
cant play mercy against no mercy
tobi saved it
feelsbad
and people say mercy isn't op
Shaz on Ana? Wew
Double Winston
LOL KUKI
Blossom again
Fleta's waiting for the juicy blossom
Trans too, Self destruct
I thought Seoul Dynasty colors were black/gold
Should be another won fight
@clear hornet they are but they are the away team this match so their primary color is white
Moira-Mercy would have been better.. Nano-visor better be worth it
THEY TOOK OUT FLETA
GOGOGO
LOL
uhhh seeya fleta
Away colors
SHUUUUT DOOOOWN
SLEEP
MOVE IN
REKT
Why did he overextend?
NAP! NAP! NAP!
Ohhhhh @quasi stump
Bad idea fleta lol
switched to Widow
did he get greedy
Flanking Jehong??
Fleta's gonna carry
he didn't utilize Winston's shield
Dynasty is fucking incredible
I want to get off Fleta's wild ride.

same
No no
I just wanna know what makes koreans so damn good
Dynasty are the Koreans that beat all the other Koreans for half a year
its those genes
do they live and breathe videogames
they got the gamer genes
24/7
they no life harder than anyone else
are they local koreans.. or overseas koreans?
Esports is taken far more seriously in Korea than the west
yeah the Dynasty are already a championship team
Dynasty really upgraded on their DPS department, really a complete team. I miss Esca though
rip tobi
OHH
LANE
๐
DO IT LANE
ITS LIT
GET ON THE POINT YOU MOOKS
THE FIST
timebank
Doomfist uuuuuh
GIVE IT HYDRATION
HOLY SHIT
DOOMFIST
wew
well theyre doing better than expected
Damn
HYDRATION IS FISTING THE WHOLE TEAM

Capcom can sue for him saying shuryoukan
OH SHIT
oh rip
DOOMFISTED
wep
THEY DID IT DAMN
INSNAITY
FLETA SWITCHED
phwoar
6:13
FUCKING A
OH NO
WOW
lmao
HOLY SHIT
memefist won
6:13 > 1:00
HYDRATION IS INSANE
Fucking hel that was intense
wooooooooooo
WoWzers
Wew
They have to hold like gods
Now for the 6 min hold
I CAN'T HABEEB IT
HE FUCKING FISTED EVERYONE
Dynasty has so much time tho
WE'RE STILL GONNA LOSE BUT WE GOT TO 2-2
daaamn, at least they are going down with a fight
even if they lose now, theyve already done better than expected
They gotta hold 2nd properly

Dynasty has 6 minutes uhhh
AYYYYYYYY
Holy Molly
but... imagine they get the draw!?
1st point they cant hold though
That was a good fight
good shit gladiators
what happened did they cap
Surefour look so upset! ๐ฐ
6:13 against Overtime
Doomfist knows de wey
it takes like 20 seconds to walk from Spawn to the point
Yo that ref in the back has some buff arms
if it's not a tie
Doomfist knows di wei
against overtime? gladiators dont get another shot
Dynasty gets the win
Surefour always looks like that @prisma quest
ok tho
jesus
it's either tie or loss for gladiators
If they hold this somehow
This won't end well...
sombra
6 minutes
Shombra
if they were to end with less than a minute to go it would go back up to a minute, but because they used all their time, they're done attacking
Go tigers! 
get on the point boys
fleta already has EMP
sombra strategy isn't for fast pickoffs
right?
OW
That was a poor fade
jehong got fuckin' punched in the ehad
She shouldn't have died
chillin in space
O SHIT
DAMN
FLETA
flet thooo
HUGE PICK
FUCK YOU
OOOOO
FLETA
"HEY THERE"
OH SHIT
GODDAMNIT FLETA
LMAO
FLETA
FLETA S INSANE
RIPPPP

GREAT EMP
ITS THE FLETA SHOW BOYS
WAIT WHAT THE HELL
oh they held
HOW DID THAT NOT WORK
wut
WHERE'S THE FOLLOW UP LADS
waow
HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE
^
FUCK YEAH
this is dangerous for LA
SUREFOUR KILLED WHOLE TEAM
LA fucking held it out of nowhere
Impressive
damn
yea
this is the first good fucking match ive seen way to go glads honestly
first 2minutes are gone
that's 2 mins gone
HOW ARE THEY GONNA DO THIS WHEN SEOUL CRUCHED THEM IN ATTACK
4 more minutes!
dynasty trolling
It's a fucking trainwreck, I can't stop watching it explode.
we can do it!
Glads still have 3 ults
jehong pls
against Dynasty's 1
surefour 2 stronk
YEAH
or 4*
ABOUT TO BE 5
fleta doesn't have emp tho
That wasn't the best Moira play I've ever seen
If Glads keep this kinda play up, even if they lose, they can walk away head held high.
dont tell me they turn this into a draw lol
fail blade, damn
NA ult
EMP come on
come on seoul
does jehong....know how to play moira
emp up
Nope
damn, good try LA
CREDS TO THE GLADS FOR PUTTING UP MORE OF A FIGHT
OH THANK GOD
nic
^^^^^^^^^^
damnit hydration
GG
LA was good tho
THAT WAS SCARY
took 4 minutes
GG
GG

there it is
"Defeat"
That was such a good defense though
that team comp tho
why ya'll rooting for the op team
nice try glads
lol
that's no fun
gg
GLADS ARE GIVIN THEM A FUCKIN RUN THO
Tobi getting switched? Huh?
baby dva is scary as hell in close quarters
wait does LA not get an attack?
nn
Gladiators really showing signs of life
e clap
IKR
ez
I am confused
LA was on overtime right
yea
Yeah
@balmy wolf because fuck LA lol
yeah
I thought they would get at least 1min but i guess not
ASIAN SCREAMING
dynasty has the advantage?
DYNASTY IS SO FUCKING GOOD AT THIS GAME
i don't root for the "op team", i've been watching several korean tournaments like apex, i've been a fan of them for a long time now, so
its not payload so i dont think they can even hop on
don't give a fuck about cities just abuot the players
Hydration just threw the game
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probb my new fav
k tho fleta and jehong are insane
THE GOD
@shell locust how do you figure?
probably the best players
but wtf was jehong doing on moira
i honestly want to see zunba back on zarya again
looked like he was kinda confused
Dynasty fighting! ๐
and sure "FUCK YO HOUSE" four
sure 4 is rlly gucciiiiiii
Managing to kill the baby Diva could have turned the tide on that engagement
Zunba played really well
Instead, he missed like two shots and a dash
sure he did, i still like him more on zarya
biggoose sucked
too silent here guys
we're just waiting
Also I'm still trembling over Pine's absolute mad shots
we can talk about pineapple on pizza tho
Whats the difference between Offensive and DPS
o
its interchangeable
offensive+defensive = dps
This dude is a robot I promise
Sombra is an offensive hero but she doesn't have huge DPS, she's seen as half a support
That's the only exception I can think of really
while i kinda count mei as 50% dps 50% tank
yea true, sombra as well
dvas a QQ like a huge dps i can hide behind
No, snipers are DPS also
so which is the best team
DPS are characters meant to deal damage. DPS stands for damage per second
basically characters that do damage and dont have a huge hp pool, not "rapid fire"
likewidow
DPS = does a lot of damage and isn't a tank
all the heroes in the offense and defense categories are considered dps heroes
no, dva is a tank
dva isn't a dps
Dvas weird
jjonak as zen dps mvp
dva has huge damage output against large targets right in front of her, yea, but she's not a dps, she's a mobile tank
what about ana
anas a healer
wut
just because a hero deals damage doesn't mean they're a dps hero
every hero deals damage in some way
but only about half are dps heroes
gotcha
mercy deals a surprising amount of damage 
lmao
mercy main btw
A "damage per second hero"? That sounds really dumb.
its just ive always been confused with who's considered dps
Dps has been a thing forever
that's just the terminology, it's easier to say dps than it is to say damage dealer
It's its own word
i know
dps = offense heros and quite a few of the defense heros
but in OW
basically everyone in the offense and defense category kinda count as dps except for sombra, she IS a dps but she has support capabilities
then you have tank and support
@clear hornet all the offense and defense heroes are dps heroes
mei isnt really dps
Yeah
mei is borderline, sure
true but when we choose team comps def+off catergories are considered dps
but who else in the defense category is not dps
Fuck man
i wouldnt consider torb as DPS
only mei really
tbh
and bastion?
bastion is full Dps
really? all torb does is deal damage and give armor packs
LOL
I chose dynasty to support cuz their skins were cool but now I kinda regret ut
torb's also a dps-support hybrid
they are too good
torbs squints
but more dps
torb dps lol
lol
just like how symms a squints
symm is dps tho
sym is dps tho
ayylmao
symms
yeah how is sym not dps


i wanna see more widow plays tbh


symms awk


how does it move 

wait
sym and torb are unreliable dps
they have animated emojis now pls

Week 1?
theres a whole schedule
yes
Yes
Sym and torb can work out
out of how many
@clear hornet this is only day 3
many
o
this season goes until June
i think it spawns almost half a year
four days a week until june
I never really watched OW matches
you picked a good time to start
I stick to Melee where its just tournaments
doesn't get better than this
keep watching, it's definitely worth it
Oh i will
OWL is gonna be huge imo
They've got car companies sponsoring them
OWL season 1 ends on the 28th July
dayum
yea blizzard did a great job with OWL so far, gotta admit that
I told myself that I would watch at least one match fully
dynastys good to watch
yea but mane you have to consider
many of them just tuned in because they "thought" they could get free coind there
now its on a constant ~200k
is that why all those dumbasses were spamming those fake commands on day one
yep
jesus christ
Esports as a whole has a signifcantly larger audience than general sports regardless
I'm not in it for the coins
what
Who else thinks Zarya is more of a support
over a year and a half and people are still shitting themselves over skins
Have you seen the numbers for traditional sports? They're insane
no thats wrong my dude
I dunno
Compared to fucking tennis my dude
superbowls stupid
the olympics are viewed by like a billion people
yea but esports is getting bigger and bigger and i really like that
Yis
The only thing I can be bothered to watch is Fifa
I was kinda expecting it to get bigger... faster?
and that's only whenever my country is playing
Will they ever have more than 12 teams in the league
or qualified
Alright, shits getting real
when does season 2 start?
Das a child
I watch nearly every World Cup match lol
m sad theres no cute guys
Huge football nut
for sure @uncut moon I wouldn't be suprised if there are more teams next season
Jeff said that they're meaning to find potential teams around Europe
About to go 2-2 and we'll get a Lijang tiebreaker
Chicago was supposedly close to having a team
Asher comin' in
Ping in South America isn't good for fostering pro players so that's not really on the table
yay numbani last match big mappool yay 
why no canadian teams
Hopefully the OWL is really successful and we get to see multiple tier leagues with relegation
like 3 leagues with 16 teams each
would be nice
that'd be insane
I'd like to see local leagues.
tobi boops time
as a german i still find it funny that not even one single german person is in OWL
How were the maps picked
Isn't Boombox German?
nope
Oh wait he's British isn't he
internethulk was german
Fleta on widow 
monkaS
ooh s4 vs fleta
I'm Dutch Dante is my only hope really
should be a good one ;p
Surefour has to protect Shaz from Fleta
wait dante is dutch
How were the maps picked
Ilios looks like it will be tough, Fleta is gonna havge a fit here
Watching OWL makes me so hyped to play comp. Until I actually play and I end up feeling like shit
Dante is, Danteh is not
i think the maps are picked random, but i dont really know
gotcha
They have a map pool
they have a mappool for every match and it gets picked random
sure? kinda feels random to me, could be wrong tho
rip
havent we seen eichenwalde only once tho?
SHIT
2 sets of 4 maps
tracer tho
KIK
WHAT
I CALLED IT
SuRE FOUR LEL
there are only two maps available for each map type
Whenever there's Junkertown there's Horizon and Illios
FLETA IS GOD
So far I think
RIP S4
WOO
SHOT
OH MY
FLETA BEST
OMG
Dorada / Junkertown with Lunar / Anubis and Illios / Oasis and Numbani / Eichenwalde
DINK
snap