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xqc did good against seoul
@balmy wolf 
with xqc there's even less defense lmao
PUT HIM ON
Lucio on capture maps
Dallas has no defense tonight.
seriously, this is worse defense than you would get in competitive :d

i can agree with no xqc no defense
lucio on defence... i know weed is legal over there but come on
fates keyboard matches his hair
xqc makes more space with winston for his team
Dallas can't defend as well as they attack 
so there's more defensive options.
thing is he dies too much
xQc was ok against dynasty but he made too many mistakes
look at the new reddit posts lul
right now i dont see any defensive options xD
Anyone got the MLG link?
against seoul he was making platinum level mistakes
Need that sweet 20Mbps
man why isnt chips playing?
its spammed with dallas fuel c9 lul
He was
take out custa and put on chips
more people on OV stream than CS major
yeah he will either create space or die in the process and get rolled after that
Man, still no Mercy?

TANK POWER
they're prolly droppin mercy already, becuz after the next patch, mercy will be crap
take out custa put on chips
Going heavy I like.
27-26

QUAD TANK 2 STRONK
nice push
this game is weird, they're too good at attacking, and they're bad at defedning
EFECT
LOOK AT EFFECTS FUCKING TRACKING
Easy?
HOLY SHIT
OH MY GOD
better time ?
WOW
how many matches does effect need toc ary
wtf is this
bro

OH MY FUCKING GOD THATS AWESOME
ummmm
DESTROYED
20 seconds more
Tank meta!
OMG
holy shit
LOL
that lack of defense
OMFG
defence not even once
WHAT IS GOING ON
THAT PUSH
holyshit
this is why horizon is shit it keeps doing that
FUCKED
no defense
BOTH TEAMS
Did they just beat their time wtf
wheres the defence
WHAT IS THIS MATCh
Effect hard carried lmfao
SUCK AT DEFENSE
Nutty attack
No Mercy no problems?
tripel tank? nah
SO AGRESSIVE
defense is impossible??
well then
HOLY SHIT
quad tank bby
But crap defense lol
KotH will be crazy
BEEP BEEP
it's going to be THAT kind of match
IM GOING NUTS
6 minutes on both sides
I CANT BELIEVE THIS
that's why i freakin like FUEL ... unusial playstyle
Horizon bois
Not me
eeeeeeeek
no defense ResidentSleeper
bad map game sux
i LOVE IT
ALSO EFFECTS FUCKING TRACKING
best team
quad tank is meta
HE IS A HUMAN AIMBOT


what could go wrong
Max Charge Zarya slaying kids
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEFENSE
left and right
love the dps on zarya
who needs defense anyways... what the fuck is this?! lol
What keyboard is Fate playing with ๐ฎ
How to win comp games
tbh I thought they could win when they killed harryhook
wow
just speedrun on attack
New meta
confirmed
BEST DEFENSE IS A BETTER OFFENSE
Wow that attack
still no Mercy
quad tank on defense too
these slypher slackers cant defend
monkAs
spawn attack o_O
Iโm an outlaws fan but im enjoying this one more
nothing died
pub tactics
Dallas loves that fast attack apparently
QUAD TANK OP
HOLY SHIT A DEFENSIVE HOLD
These meme strats.
NO
This game
NOT THIS AGAIN
QUAD TANK OP
holy hell
NEW META
they're learning lol
That zarya charge was so nice
zarya that was a bad ult
so many ults on effect lol
but the use
def ults though
Zen but no mercy
they lost 3 minutes
harry and mickie
Junkrat coming out

i feel like they wouldve won if the grav came out after trans
and still almost 5 min left
I'll love if this becomes meta
didn't kill anyone with the bomb
This match is pretty fantastic yeah
@short vault I was screaming when he used it during the trans
No mercy lol
ok hold i guess?
Should have pushed when they picked Mercy

that female referee has a thicc booty โค
@plucky gulch i guess nerves got to him and he couldnt resist
did harry just thrown out the ult for mercy ?
id love to hear team chat right now
NA brain NA finger 
@balmy wolf i'm talkin about real booty ๐ ..
Looking for the huge blade
goddamn
Do valiants have their own spray?
Mei
mickie is bad today i guess
holy shit
Oh for fucks sake
dva is broken
This stall though
LMAO
2cp LUL
mega stall
two capture point 
holy shit that stall
gg envy
omg
That was pretty though tbh
Dat stall
how long was that stall
That was a stall of the gods
about 40-50s
they lost 4 minutes
2cp stall ResidentSleeper
this is a real great match
did Blizzard allocate enough time between matches for this one to end ?
whoever wins, this series is very entertaining
there was a chance to actually flip
It is
how did they took the point with mei and moira being on point?????
but dva bomb stopped the thing
I'm enjoying watching this a lot more than I expected.
moira wasnt on point
surprised the mei didnt get an ult in that time
she as
mei ult charges super slow now
That dva bomb stopped them, they had like 3 people contesting the point with 2 more coming out when the bomb went off
almost as slow as grav
So this is where that chat is that you can read and not the twitch one ๐
what are you talking about
yeah if they hadn't died to the bomb
they could had stopped the attack
AGAIN QUAD TANK
THE MEME
Ah yes
"we're going into another attack round" as opposed to the rounds where nobody attacks?
quad tank
hey we proved that this defence doesnt work.... LETS PROOVE IT AGAIN... going for omega 5
Holy ult genji
AHAHAHA
well that is A captured
REKT
wow
Anyone got a link to Effects twitch?
can't go through over 2 thousand hp
Look at those ults as well
i hope dallas will make it
get fuckin demolished
Roadhog's belly is so smooth with the fuel skin
4/2 meta
I'm a semi Zarya main.
harry has 72
That hook would have been crazy
rip
@queen hatch https://www.twitch.tv/eff2ct

ty
they're gonna keep the same comp
nastyy
Okay blizzard, I believe in the 2CP now
I don't like the 4 tanks lol
ton of ults soon
They should have 4 ults with this push
80 charge already o_O
they all have ults
what other matches are gonna happen after this?
Why would you shatter when you can't follow
grav was too early
I know Mayhem is after this, dunno the other team
There's still two other team mathches.
fat shatter
Such a huge shatter
well
still kinda not enough
And 0 follow cause bomb
Florida vs Boston
Like I said, it's going to be a long night
@idle beacon look at the schedule
2 more minutes until they get to valiant's time ๐
The timing and coordination is not as good as it coulda been
San Francisco vs Shanghai
Go Dallas Fuel!
Dallas huge upp
i fucking love taimou


awesome play of him today
TAIMOU
Is Mickie meant to be good at DVa?
3 minutes
Wow
oh damnit
10/10 trans
they got less time now
custa and harrys ults have been bad
2 ticks
gg
Go Dallas!
ah whatever .. this is lost aswell for fuel
What is this "defense" that LA is playing? I haven't heard that strat.
first pushes without Mercy were mistakes
It's called "winning the game"
they are still in ult advante
they did roflstomp in the first attacking round
Maybe you've heard of it
what is happening
There's still two more matches between these two.
new dva is bullshit
you lost one person and your push is over
C9 ?
LOL
WHAT
WAIT WHAT
LOLLL
Dallas seem lost
:P::::
c9 LOL
c9 lul
C9 LUL C9 LUL C9 LUL C9 LUL C9 LUL
LUL
WE DID IT
HHHHHAHHAHHHH
wtf
๐
C(
acutal
C9
EFFECT
lolololol
THAT was a c9 my dudes
WAIT
C9
Now THATS a c9
CLIPPED
c9
C9
Wat

THAT is a c9
DID DALLAS TAKE POINT
jebaited
now thats a ZZZZZZZ9999999
C9
omg
Dallas Needs to get on on point
C9
AHAHAHHAHAHA
gimme the clip
C9
Jesus
ARE YOU SHITTING ME
that was a win...
go dallas
10-9 lets go bois!@
This is
With the ninja
Valiant whyyy
I was tabbed out
oh my godf
Jesus christ the twitch chat is cancer
Solid time bank? They have 90 seconds that's really not that good
how did they get away with that
omghs
next thing I see is 4-4
LOOOOL
OMGOSH
THAT WAs HILARIOUS
rofl @ valiant
surprised the commentator never say c9... they gotta know about that
so that was a genuine c9
THEY GOT BACK CAPPED
THIS SHIT
That's fuckin hilarious
SOMEONE CLIP THAT
IS THE EPITOME
LMAOOOOO
@rough epoch that's any large twitch chat
OF NORTH AMERICA
c9c9c99c
Jack in the box sponsors Dallas?
NEXT LEVEL
That was a genuine c9
Z9z9z9
OW PLAYS
@forest raven LOOOOOOOL
a true c9 PogChamp
While they were fighting, coco just gets on point!!!!!
Classic Classic Mixup?
epitome ?
rekt
I think the commentators never say C9 because it's a reference to another team lmao
C(
C9
C(
C9
where can I find a list of sponsors for the teams
@tawny sigil i think it's because they want to remain serious and dont want to "bully" someone with that
This nade needs to be perfect
It doesn't let me clip?
rip
The ana spooked them and they instantly retreated
YEET just joined this server
ANA LETS GO
nerf mercy into the fucking trash
THIS ANA
so we can see more of this
HOLY SHIT
2:30 for 1 tick hold, impossible
ANA GAMEPLAY KREYGASM
fuel o_O
HOLY SHIT
Moira MVP
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED
CUSTA ME GUSTA
OH MY
This is not Cocco's map
Holy crap Moira what a play
CLIP THAT SHIT
THERE IS A CHANCE
I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
WHY DO THEY SUCK AT DEFENSE
THIS FUCKIN MATCH
YES
ONE CHANCE
WHAT HAPPENED
how did fuel just teleport on the capture point ?
I CANT DEAL WITH THIS
FUEL IS BETTER THAN TRASH VALIANT
This is insane. Again.
They should all rush with ults
pocket ana does work
This is a pure offense game
@plucky gulch defense? that's a rare stra apparently 
@forest raven too intense for you? ๐
*strat

Honestly
rough
draw incoming
Mercy getting the kill on Widow
rip
I should try this in my comp games
bastion rein orisa torb sym mercy ๐
Now can Dallas play defense or will this keep going?

Anyone play on PS4 here?
sym has 0% pickrate
lol what are the chances of dallas having a flawless defence
I think this might be the best matchup we've seen yet
would be unexpected ๐
Reaper has a 1% pick rate
@rotund coyote Look at the other channels
@rotund coyote you're wrong here ๐
I think the offense characters are too strong on Overwatch
@rotund coyote #lfg-console-ranked
that actually have some utility
I don't like Widow def at all
junky boi PogChamp
This is probably the best match but the defense being nonexistent has made it really weird
Maybe something that actually disrupts player weapons
harryhook soldier PogChamp
Junk way better
man xqc and chips in
like a grenade or something that emps the guns and forces them to reload
ffs
WE NEED XQC
Fuel gonna battle for last place
Agreed @balmy wolf
Variants trash
JUNK
BOOM
*valiants
Solo heals xd
Defense is kind of a weird category. A lot of the defense characters are equally good on offense.
they did really good against seoul with chips and xqc
Junked
Junked so hard
S76 as pseudo heals
Defense? What???
Sneaky sneaky
Soon wtf ๐คฃ
Sneaky SOON
EFFECT
Traded Mercies
NUTS
effect is doing it!
out tracered
EFFECT WTF
holy shit
OUTPLAYED
COME ON DAL
they got fucked
NUT
Dat tracer
I wonder why most heros don't get picked in OWL
Effect is too good
wtf Valiant
fuel might actually defend ?
Junk tyre that's a free hold
effect is just too good wtf
Wow
Both teams Left 4 Dead HashtagNoMercy
Effect tho
Valiant better lose
Where is that junk
they're DOING IT
valiant down
STAGGER
THEYRE OUT
YES
COME ON DALLAS
FUCK YES
bwahahahaha
DELAY
what a game
NUTTYYYYY
gg
LETS FUCKING GO
RIP
GG
99 on bomb
Dva bomb on def
c(
Harry gonna get them in his sights
C9
Gotta be huge
OHHH
that s it
DEAD
JUNKERED
DEAD
How many watching on twitch
GG
wait
GOTTA BE HUGE
WHAT
NO
NO
WAIT
HOLY
O SHIT
NERF MERCY
5-5 :/
noo
ASDJKNBAKSDBKAJBDAKJBDAKLSJBDLAJKBSdLAKJBDALKJBDLKAJBSDKLJAB

CMON
oh shit
NERF MERCY
HOW
WHAT
What a push
HOW
pathetic
what the actually FUCK
mickie wasted that ult
NO
I DONT HABEEB IT
This game
is such a meme
NONO
NO WAY
NO
LOL
How did that even happen? Dallas was looking so solid
if mercy got her nerf they wouldnt've capped
YOU SHITTING ME
THEY DO NOT KNOW DE WAR
what JOKE
THIS GAME WTF
FUCKING REZ DUDE
DAMN YOU UNKOE
If they'd gotten Kariv first, it'd be 1-1
THEY GOT SILKTHREAD BACK
THEY DO NOT KNOW DE WAE
more luck, valiant
really no skill, just luck
BOOM
DRAGONBLADE MY ASS YOU WEEB
what
poor silkthread
NO WAY
Draw
TIE

DRAW!
DRAW
FUCK THE TIE
draw
FUCKING DRAW
wtf is this match
at least
VALIANT UR TRASH
Brilliant wp
wow
YES
TIE
10-9 lets goo
WHAT
wow
HOLY SHIT
Laaaaaaaaaaame
VICTORY?
This game
5CP
DALLAS HAD THAT
so intense
lmao
Koth will be crazy
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
NO FORKING WAE
that sound effect
God damnit man
FUCKING A MAN.
Dallas had that
thank god for control map
IF THEY HAD NO MERCY DALLS WOULD WIN
all that for nothing
12-11 on points so far, wtf
I had 3 heart attacks
GO DALLAS!
they're so evenly matched
Not even that
Wow. What a tie.
NERF MERCY ALREADY
Lol
if Rez wasn't a thing
THIS IS TOO FORKING GOOD
AN HOUR AND A HALF AND NOT EVEN 2 GAMES FINISHED
lol
FUEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKING BOOSTED
@meager pumicetergramD00D#6348 your mom is boosted
new rez sucks
just think guys. they're gonna be playing with this version of mercy for a while
fuckin' op shits
fucking kms
wow
Valiant gonna win this series, calling it
DALLAS HAD THAT
FUCKING TEMPO REZ COMES AND RUINS EVERYTHING
@gaunt pollen you muste be jokin
this series is amazing
why are they showing yesterdays highlight now they didnt do that yesterday
Valliant fans are toxic
we're toxic too
Florida and Boston's game are probably going to be pushed back.
says the fuel fan
valliant fans watch rick n morty?
There's only been 2 rounds today
Valiant is trash.
this ain't fuckin' european soccer
if valiant is trash and they just tied with dallas
Dallas Fuel has a chance to Overtake Valliant
depends on the fan really
wha does that make dallas
we can cheer for one team without shitting on the other
Everyone likes their team, no reason to hate. Just enjoy the performance they're putting on, please
Considering their performance, both teams are putting up an excellent game.
2:25 AM here, tired as hell, but can't stop watching
I'm just happy to be watching this amazing match
How come one team is ALWAYS white?
C A L L E D O U T
Hey, i love Dallas as much as the next guy but Valiant is really tearing it up today
I go for both teams so this series is amazing to me
remove mercy from the league and it would be an EZ dallas win
If they don't bring on xqc I'm going to stop watching smh
I assume one is always white for Visibility
not even that
@rough epoch home jersey
Iโm grandmaster and I still canโt do as good as these people... ๐
WE NEED XQC
i mean you can complain about mercy all you want but both sides have a mercy so
If they bring on xqc I'm going to stop watching smh
they just need to revert and fix old mercy
Both these teams are insanely good.
Team A plays Team B. Team B wins. "Team A is clearly objectively better than Team B <insert excuses here>"
@wintry kraken But it isn't, they just showed Dallas Fuel in white
@rough epoch the away team gets away skins
@rough epoch yesterday fuel was the away team
which are the white ones
everyone we found an xqc fan @balmy wolf @olive aspen
They donโt know de wae
Ahhh, I see
@meager pumicetergramD00D#6348 to clarify it for you .. dallas is playing an unusual style .. on purpose .. once their teamplay for that strat is working and flowing, they will be unstopable
Why can't we use the away skins?
envy shitting on widows lmao
that battle mercy tho
it was a tie why are dallas fans so triggered lol
@meager pumicetergramD00D#6348
how would you know that they'd be playing such a way on purpose?
why can't i mention this dude correctly? .. fckin discord
"Get off your phone"
why is dallas like this
Wait, I took a bath who won on horizontal?
Draw
*horizon
Draw
draw
"scrims against spitfire should be nice n easy"
Damnit
5-5
both won
:|
I think either both won or both lost
Yert
@meager pumicetergramD00D#6348 i've been playin teamplay based MP games since over 10 years now .. i've seen orthodoxe strats alot
@worn falcon tie
Everyone's a winner 
Draws means they're all losers
Welp
draws mean they drawed and arnt winners or losers they are just soulless
Basically ensures we wouldn't get a 5th map
Is there like an overview of the teams so i can figure out who i wanna root for? More than just names?
The players
is that canadian money?
On the website see who you like
@meager pumicetergramD00D#6348 it's like with american football .. if a team plays strats which are damn unusal, the other team will struggle handling it
I like fuel but hate seagull. Unsure how to feel about the team overall because of that
same
SNES yay
I just think the Fuel are overhyped
there was encheinwalde
They're the meme team
I also want to see King's Row
isnt that LUCIO
their food sucks
@scarlet musk you could check the teams on either the website or check liquipedia or something and read up on the individual teams
LUCI-OH OH
at this point the meme team is shanghai
Do u know the wae
fuel is popular because they got all the known guys
?
R I P S H A N G H A I
I'd like some Ecopoint Antarctica
I love taimou though. Roadhog plays โค
Nah Shanghai is the broken dream team
are shanghai players actually that bad?
meme teme is m a y h e m
@rough epoch I hate XQC but I like the other players so I route for them.
seagull, taimou, xqc, harryhook
i dont think the players have bad reps or anything
Have they played that at all yet skyver?
theyre just really dysfunctional i think
Shanghai dragons are my favorite team but they are not doing too good
It's more fun to hate the Fuel so I'm going to go with that
I can dream
Pirateship map woooo
does harry or mickie even speak fluent english
shangai isn't that great it seems
I'm from London, gotta go with the Spitfires
Junkertown? More like choke city
Was just a joke, please don't hate me
and effect too
los angeliz valiz
@scarlet musk root for FUEL at first .. then boston and fusion
junkertown? More like...well, the name explains it all. Junkertown is piece of junk
REMOVE JUNKERTOWN REMOVE JUNKERTOWN
you would think with a monopoly on the millions of players in china you could put together a decent 6 man OWL team
feels bad
-remove kebab plays-
@supple spear WTF you can dream?
fusion, gladiators and dynasty are my favorites, followed by fuel
Remove Symmetra
fuel and houston are my fav
I don't think anyone in the league played symmetra
I haven't seen Mayhem play yet but that makes for a good Junkrat skin
Yeah, total mayhem elimination for grand finals of course
Did anyone see the ugandan knuckles poster
no one picked symmetra so far afaik
20k damage wtf
shadowburn is in FUsion, right?
yes
ye
Look,what xqc does on stream isn't good I agree and if he has to get a small ban that's fine but don't shit on him as a player, you can't deny he is a damn good Winston and Orissa.
@idle beacon ye
Mhm
@sinful heron so Kings Row is not part of the map pool for hybrid
sorry man
@olive aspen What'd he do?
Good winston = average player ๐ญ
Nuuuuuu
ye ok .. FUEL and then FUSIOn and then Uprising for me
Yerp
^
@rough epoch he throws games and is kinda toxic
No need to judge what team someone likes
@olive aspen Why would anyone want someone who throws games on their comp team
Dragons, fuel, Gladiators, Uprising, and outlaws
To me it's Gladiators, Fusion then Fuel
but surely FUEL and FUSION
can fuel play dive?
i don't really know how well known korean players are in the rest of the world, but players like Ryujehong and Zunba are beasts, seoul dynasty could win that whole thing in the end
@rough epoch idk no one knows but he did
i think NYXL might be the best team
I'm feeling fusion
@rustic perch they wont
I does worry me how difficult dives seems to be to deal with
idk
BRUDDAS
actually it is fun triggering people for some people
@rough epoch cause he is a good player
realistically seoul will probably win it all
gladiators seem super strong
I CAN SEE DA WEY
SHOW IS DA WAE
DO YOU KNOW DA WEY
@idle kiln they aren't
dallas will be up there
especially in 3 months NYXL will blow up
YOU DO NOT KNOW DE WEY
THAT MAN HAS DE WEY
Old meme
any predictions??
*CTOCK CTOCK CTOCK *
@olive aspen any meme made in 2018 is not an old meme
Horse head meme will never die
I prefer the term finely aged

lol the twitch stream just aite 17mbit
THE DAB
honestly this is the closest OW has ever gotten in my opinion
dab guy LUL

@idle kiln closest ow ?
Dallas, LA (both), Seoul and London are all almost evenly matched
twitch stream is like 5mbps
any of them could take it i think
closest in what?
in terms of level of skill
I agree Pillow
this is taimou's map โค
Aye
@tawny sigil ye if you ain't usin the source stream
LETS GO TAIMOU
It's old and celebrities and companies are using the meme IT NEEDS TO DIE
source stream is 10mbit something
TAIMOU
can someone tell me
what the hell the audience is holding
roadhog fishing ๐
I wanna see god roaddoggy gameplay
make a big cheer
Signs, they are holding signs.
I saw ugandan knuckles in the audience

illios ๐ฎ
Please buh- put up your hands
please clap
you saaw nothing!
Source is like 7Mbps max
they better brign seagull back in
do the teams knoe da wae
Seagull leave
soooo uncomfortable watching him hahaha
illios AGAIN?
Can't find the MLG stream anywhere.
its 5:35 next match is suppose to be 6:00 and it is only ending of halftime
"So, were coming to the end of this halftime and can everyone please, put your hands up, this is a robbery, hand over your cash"
lol that was a dumb ad
im using source and it says 6mbps
where do i find informations about the set maps ??
I don't think there is an MLG stream
thats not enough for these kind of thing its blurry as fuck during gameplay
Yeah the MLG player is so much better but it's not live ATM
ach du bist auch deutsch
@rustic perch NO ONE CARES lol jk
those shaz clips are fucking disgusting
what's the current score?
i need a shower
Never thought I'd see a Trump Hotel ad.
Ana's scream is soooo long
klar :p
Shaz is fucking savage
7-6,5-5 Map 1-0 Valiant
@idle kiln again?? .. you took a shower last week .. that's enough for a month, bruh
too .. many.. filthy clips
Purples actually a really dope color for these skins Iโm not gonna lie
you mean 2-1 valiant
^^
ive seen more filthy OW plays in 3 days than ive seen in 6 months