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_ i have no idea_
why isn't there an actual owl skin for OWL
i think it's kinda sad to not see Calvin in a team so soon again
he dropped to master lol
Jk
Calvin doesn't wanna be a pro
ye i know
stresses some people out
well, he actually makes a lot more money with streaming
but i don't think its the reason
stress probs ๐
Maybe he just can't handle the stress or something
look at xQc, he is playing owl and streaming, he doesn't do anything else
He makes more with streaming and has his own schedule, doesn't work tooooo much
it's like he breaks himself soon
I have a feeling xqc is gonna quit very early
Or he's just gonna stop streaming
i don't think he will stop streaming
Not rn or in the near future
20 years
either he destroys himself or he stops with the owl, thats what i guess
it's just a guess
i need to see him rage live
Whatever's best for him
and ye, not in the near future
@tight vault it's not even that funny
i think germany is going to get an own team in season 2
That would be dope
they are pushing esports on a high level
Why isn't kraggie on a team
who is kraggie?^^
ohh wtf, S4 Rank1 EU DPS main
owl or world cup
ye
he was in the world cup
He played for Denmark
He should be in an owl team
Wonder why he isn't
can we get a owl team thats just bronze players
YES
lol
or here's an idea
i always ask myself, HOW DO YOU GET TO BRONZE?
They just hop into random gm games and choose random people
BigGoose is a good lucio too ๐
Tobi is reallyyyy good
owl but all the teams are people in bronze
Oooooooooooooh the golden gun looks so sick
overwatch league? More like overwatch uhm bronze? Nailed it
overwah?
Overbronze
1900 DOLLARS???
1958
1-2$ per skin would be fine
Hey you get a discount for a whole team right?
5$ per skin
5$ is too much
oh were getting our tokens now ?
Yep
Get dva nyxl
time to buy that bright red reinhardt
5 dollars is probably balanced to where it would be economically viable.
fuck, genji fusion it is
lol
you get a discount if you buy 2600 tokens
good question
I really want a full set too
so it's "just" 12 * 100$
100$ for a full set is absolutely insane
at least their not forcing you to pay
Idk about that
50$ is still pushing it a bit
it's decent
Imo
Considering people waste 5 dollars everyday for a cup of Starbucks
You could almost buy ow again for that kind of money
i bought overwatch 4 times^^
Not bad
so actually about 3550
That's pretty gud
you?
you pay 100$ for 100 lootboxes btw, and you are not even sure what skins you have there
4362



whos the lowest ranked player in owl

boston bronze
They're the worst in the league tbh

i was actually suprised that
lost that high against 
they were kinda able to just walk on point
vs 
shanghai looked like the worst team in OWL
Who wins
@toxic pasture the better team ๐
so Dallas

Thats debatable already lol
boston at least took 1 map off of nyxl
Londons full korea roster against the popular guys
actually all the day 2 games were surprising
even mayhem took 1 map off
when most people expeccted 4-0
i think it's kinda stupid to "buy" a korean roster for an european team...
shields up weapons online!
so close enough i guess
KR teams can bleed
looks pretty bad for houston to lose to a new fusion team
idc if they are good, it's just kinda stupid if you ask me...
And the league parity would be better if 2017 didnt happen
all the KR teams lost one map
so who here prefers OWL over world cup
so they're beatabl;e
OWL of course
world cup was an exhibition for the most part
most teams didnt take it seriously enough
OWL is much better
Said no one who like competitive lol
it's like a cleaned version of the Worldcup
aye i did it
with much more money
i bought the bright red reinhardt
the worldcup eqs Great tho
ye it was, but the niveau in the owl is higher
Yeye
btw, what is your main?
wtf
Wtf?
that's exactly who i mained 4 seasons ago

junkrat is still good
i more play anyone but i have the most playtime widow
I tell myself i'm a zarya main, but i guess now it's Hog, Dva
post nerf
Yeah the nerf isn't super significant, its a nerf to genuinly bad Junkrats
Beemo what rank are you
If you're okay with the guy he's just as before
master
low mid or high master
that's pretty good
4 seasons ago i reached GM with hog/lucio, but that's when they were meta
stylosa once told me rank doesn't matter and then made fun of me for being in gold when i was in plat
now i just play random shit
so im not good at anything anymore
my bastion def needs work tho
it's rough
so that was the first time i really played comp
of the mayhem!
and it was fucking chaotic
why do you type like this all the time
do you have a problem
Yes
alright i respect your opinion so i won't stop
lmao

I'm not Spanish can't read it
you can change the language
wait what is this
feel like these lower rank online tournaments would never work if there's a prize involved. It's so easy to make a low rank smurf and no one would know until the damage is already done
lemin you're not like that, i appreciate that
smurfs
Don't lose games on purpose
that's what i do
/ban beeomoo
I hate people that smurf
yikes
fuck
i mean i have an alt that plays other heroes
Just ruining the experience for everyone
never purposely lose
YO PARTY PEOPLE IN DA HOUSE!
when is next match
In about 3 hours
damn
I have a class that starts at 6 feelsbadman
how many dallas fanbois/girls from EU
big d represent 
Lots of Europeans cheer for Fuel afaik, we don't feel super connected to London (from the people I've talked to anyway)
But the true cool Europeans cheer for Seoul ofc 
do EUs cheer for Mayhem? The only EU only roster
Not sure, my friendgroup is a little more casual and they're full Dallas because they know Seagull and have heard of Envyus
envy was originally all EU
then talespin made it 5/6 EU
likewise mickie 5/6
then effect 4/6
so now dallas is 4/9 EU
4 core members who are all EU
hulk ๐ฆ
cocco chips and harry played with hulk since the very beginning of OW
at least at the pro/amateur level
back in beta
did somebody say peanut butter!?
Lmao

: 
ye fusion were good
i liked boston aswell
but ye, then nyxl brought in their chubby girl pine .. and that broke bostons neck :;
:/
that was a psychological trick from nyxl
mindfuckin boston .. to tear down their motivation
Pine is a guy
Jesus lol
l
pine is a legend
remember when he first graced NA, people thought he was cheating with the way he flicking his shots
but before that, he had a shady history
just had 2 trolls in a comp match
standing in spawn
the whole game
why isn't blizzard doing something against such trolls?
#overwatch-serious ๐
Damn Tara laying down the law
no matches going on atm, taraforest ๐
That Kotaku article on greguri not being signed to OWL is so bad
Just like Seoul against Fuel ๐
it's the epitome of dude not knowing shit about the scene
@jagged crater bad in what way?
Greguri herself spoke out about it having nothing to do with her gender, its all so silly
Yeah it was awful
he assumes it's purely gender bias and not skill
After her cheating allegations she specifically said "I do not want this to become a thing against women in e-sports"
And yet Kotaku ran with it
kotaku being kotaku
can you gimmeh a link, @jagged crater ?? .. i dont get what you're talkin about
The journalist even went on a rant on Twitter how its okay because he's 'exposing' the orgs anyway
In case you missed the NYXL Q&A, here are some of the more interesting answers: https://twitter.com/RadoNonfire/status/951931485883437056
one more follow up tweet too*
#OverwatchLeague Some answers from the #NYXL Q&A:
Saebyeolbe on whom he considers his rival: "Logix!"
Mano likes MLB & NBA from among popular US sports.
Ark would like to see Zen, Soldier 76, Lucio meta.
https://compete.kotaku.com/no-overwatch-league-team-signed-the-games-most-notable-1821968992
Some of the comments are pretty ignorant too
LOS ANGELES, Calif.โDuring yesterdayโs Overwatch League media day in Los Angeles, one of the most mentioned names belonged to a player whoโs not even on an OWL team. Kim โGeguriโ Se-yeon, a top-level Zarya player who overcame a rash of cheating accusations and threats in 2016, was on the tip of everybodyโs tongues, but nowhere to be found.
i still don't understand why so many males are against females in esports
And here is Geguri's own reply
Worlds best Zarya btw 
gonna say some stuff about the fallout from this article, so uh, buckle up
Here is the writer on Twitter trying to justify it
Uh..........thats not relevant.
๐ค
sure, women are weaker than men.. but that doesn't count in esports, where you only need ur reflexes, aim, smartness and awareness ..
๐ฌ
this is going to turn into a minefield but fuck it I guess.
nonono no one's hating on women here, we're talking about geguri not being signed had nothing to do with her being a woman
Oh noey
for the most part most of the esport scene aren't "hating" on women. Apathy is probably the right word.
Some idiots obviously probably should hold his opinion off of reddit
also wth slasher been doing
so why hasn't she been signed?
Not good enough?
Because there are better options?
r u kiddin me?
Why hasn't AKM been signed?
she's surely as good as the weakest player of the weakest team in OWL season1
Well actually he had a huge buyout so he wasn't signed and then they disbanded but it was too late
There's something to be said for synergy too, Winston
I think things just didn't work out, she is amazing and will find a team at some point but it just wasn't the time this time!
surely is very subjective when her last team (Rox Orcas) was flunked out of the playoff of APEX
as well as disbanded later.
I think she'll get in sooner or later
i mean there's a lot of talent that hasn't been signed onto OWL
simply not enough space
I hope a team doesn't sign her as a PR stunt though and then proceed to bench her all season, she deserves to play
it's not just geguri
ironically, the reason that most esports scene kind of apathetic about women in esport because of the amount of PR stunts has involved women.
Yeah that is more or less what I was trying to say. There is a surplus of talent right now, lots of talented people didn't make it in. ๐
although
it is kind of bad that Geguri is known as that girl who happened to be stuck in the controversy
rather than someone who played well
which is kind of reflective on today's society and how people would rather victimize others instead
She's very much known as a good player
not good enough.
good yes, but best among her role is very debatable
she is certainly not "The World's best Zarya" as Nathan wanted to
she's primarily known for zarya who atm is not even meta
Which is one of the things that makes me annoyed that this kotaku article is dragging her into this when she doesn't want to be a part of it.
Yeah that's what bothers me the most
Ugh, must be so frustrating for her.
hahaha
matches starting late because they know they cant compete against csgo esport scene
smh
She didn't get asked or anything, just dragged in there
you have to understand that Kotaku's aim isn't to "educate" or "creating awareness". Their aim have always been "clicks". There's a reason why Nathan didn't ask her.
And in the end it does more harm than good.
Yep because now we're having this debate again...
who would have thought telling people that X is bad will make people go away from it rather than get to known it?
it's kotaku not real journalism, sensationalist bs for the most part
education and creating awareness does not involve writing an articles about how this girl is getting no tryouts and shit
personally i'm just more tilted at people who took the article at face value and proceed to shit on Blizzard for whatever reasons.
They'll be great rolemodels I bet
blizzard is shit at balancing
Same Wolf
Twitter is a mistake.
why does the world's best Zarya didn't get any tryout
she is not the best, wdym?
delete tweet
hello?
In other news
I love Uber
Heyyy
Mr. X probably afraid to dance because he'd fall off the box </3
what match are you guys most excited for tonight?
My bed :(
inb4 Valiant took a dump
maybe Soon + Agilities will produce fireworks 
don't sub Grim in tho plz
poor grim ๐ฆ
there will be female pro esport players in 2022 the soonest, I think
when the first generation of girls who have been encouraged to play videogames gorws up
Guys
Can you give me a link to this server it won't let me copy one
too bad the current crop of pro female is also kind of crap
as well as for the most part just walking billboard
CSGO for example, the pro female teams are like t3 at best
T5, even
I want my bf to Join here
T3 assuming they get through first round of any tournament
but usually they don't even.
even if they got players that are getting paid more than their male counterpart at the same level
which is insane.
and then you wonder why some people are just really apathetic at female esports.
female esports are weird
for the most part there isn't anything that is called a "scene" anyway
Team Siren's implosion still leave a scar in LoL
while Team Venus in OW already got exposed a little bit
with their team having a bunch of Mercy mains playing different positions
I love how girls aren't video game playing nerds and they're TRYING to be
as well as one of them literally being boosted.
Tbh the female overwatch scene would just be a bunch of Mercy's running around
Stay out! It's for your own good!
Rik
I got out too
๐ฌ
I'm gm
Why are we still on this topic 

Eh whatever
time to dip and take a nap MonkaS
Hell Yeah
lmao
I like how there's obviously a countdown and he dances as long as he can before it ends
Have fun with games tonight fellas, I'm gonna have to go to bed </3
Nighty night! Hopefully the games we can watch live tomorrow will be great fun too! ๐
Yeah, 11pm is doable, 1am if its Seoul vs NYXL or Fuel, otherwise I'm gonna let that one slide
Games start at 7pm for me tomorrow!
Geguri is numba one female
fuel vs valiant is the best match of the day
the other 2 matches are battle for the bottom
if either team gets 0-4'd , def good candidate for worst OWL team
i just got told that moira isn't a good pick if the enemy has a dva
since when can dva eat a heal orb?
since the beginning
Since ever
also had no idea who poko was
turns out his dva could compete with coolmatt's (best dva in the west) dva
I wonder how many fans the bottom tier teams have
between shock, uprising, mayhem and the others
shock might have a decent fanbase because sinatraa and dante
shanghai prob has almost 0 fans outside China
uprising is the most unknown western team out there
mayhem prob has EU fanbase
western in terms of world
east = asian teams
shanghai is prob least popular
outside of china
we have no idea how big OW is in china right now
I know somebody supporting Boston because she was born there.
yea
people supporting boston are probably locals
the players are relatively unknown otherwise
I like boston, they're an interesting team
She chose Boston over London. She has lived in the UK most of her life. ๐
Fuel has the most popular players in the game so they def got the most love
There was a media statistic on r/cow measuring the popularity of teams
Fuel was by far #1
in terms of popularity
followed by Seoul
Boston was dead last
I hope fuel get top 3, so they can rematch dynasty at the end of the stage
assuming dynasty are first
but those were measurements before the season started so
things change
im sure boston got a little bit more love after preseason and regular season games
Dallas fuel could've won against dinasty
I feel like itd be hard for people around here to support another team unless they really care about a specific player on another team
I care about the entire Dallas fuel roster
large chunk audience is not familiar with the scene so they just started watching for the first time
yea i love the dallas fuel guys too
followed them since envy days
with hulk
I'm not the biggest fan of xqc but he's still cool
xqc is a lil diff
i used to hate him
but he's grown on me
someone said it best, xqc is like the most hated likeable guy
Accurate
Taimou is just a Teddy bear
Love him
He's the best roadhog
Perhaps
Even better than
Me
I'm a gm
Feelsunderwhelming
road dawg
It is
it was interesting to see effect taking the widow role from taimou
Except for men
Iโm really liking London so far
Me
Getting out of gold was the most satisfying shit ever
I was stuck in gold for 5 seasons lmao
most satisfying is people staying in one rank for 5+ seasons and then finally getting to the next tier
so i imagine someone stuck in gold for 5 seasons then finally reaching plat next is more satisfying than a diamond in 1 season going master the next
wtf
rude
lel
so a dva can swallow enemies heal orb? really?
why smurf
Smurfing is the worst
smurfette
stomping isn't that fun
also do you guys do chat during the game
uh
smurfing is bad at any rank
what about smurfing in GM
why is smurfin bad?
Smurfing is bad because a game with a smurf is unbalanced
The system does its best based on SR
But if you have an SR that doesn't correspond to your skill, then it's unbalanced
Performance based SR below diamond helps calibrate a smurfs true SR faster
Also not related to the channel topic
It's tangentially related
Lindsey Stirling is completely unrelated
music should belong in either the jukebox or g-d text
I feel like we might need a larger voice chanel for esports
We had one chatroom that could handle like 20 people at most
It's being discussed
16 minutes
lets see if xQc gets his shit together
and the coach lets seagull play
also are most of the pros today players on other games?
I know shadowburn was a crazy soldier back then
A lot of players are ex-TF2
yeah I've been playing demoman for a long time and I still suck at it
also i didn't know Hydration was from Brazil huh
Automatic lucio main
brazil is super mixed
fuel is gonna win
its got the highest concentration of japanese immigrants in the world
100%
They also came originally back in the 1800's
OWL gambling would make blizz a lot of money
Twitch stream is apparently live
yea
I got a notification
Won't be an ez game though
tru
But I believe they'll win
we'll see how valients perform
Put in some Custa, cocco and Seagull and we have hope
so we shall see who is better
SFS
demoman is spy!
Probably the Lucio music
This the shit you hear when you die and go to heaven
THey need to play this in between games instead of junkertown every time
Its not the lucio music
demoman
fuel is trash
im hands down the best player to ever touch this game..
smh
i hope xqc is playing
and nah im bronze
I hope cocco plays
He didn't play a map at all

No main tank on junkertown
then i didn't notice ๐ฆ
But xQc played main tank for all of the other maps
You missed the bm D.Va bomb?
On xQc?
Smh
I'm about to watch this game with SuperKiak
Hey guys
xqc is not a bad tank main
just less than a min til this game
hype game
i remember in the opening babybay was litteraly throuwing
he wouldn't switch
tbh
if OW doesnt do better than cs:go in views
it'd be pretty pathetic
How is that pathetic
Lets fo boys
because
knuckles sign
OWL has been advertised so much
this is gonna be fun
Look at the knuckles everywhere
KNUCKLESSSS
burn blueeeeee
@warm quartz yes, look at it for next 2 weeks, then 5 months later on facebook, then 1 year later on TV ๐
lol at "technically doesnt have a win so far"

cause TV needs to be up to date with lates memes ๐
San Fran Shitsco vs Shanghai (throw the word shit somewhere in here) dragons
GO DALLAS
Lol i love the crowds at the Arena lately
I don't care much for these teams
dude
But I think the games are gunna be close
dallas
anyone elses ingame schedule not working?
cmon
They have to update it manually
I mean carpe and ShaDowBurn
tomorrow's games are finally reasonable for EU people
Plus shadow is a friend of mine so I have to support
dallas have the best memes
8PM, 10PM, 12AM games
that's all I need
Carpe was insane
Carpe was insane but shadow had too many big plays
Shadow put jake in his goddamn place in the pharah offs
isn't shadowburn was a tf2 player? I saw his / her name there
Yeah, those two make a deadly ass combo
who's today
Best signs
๐
๐
yea seagull
MEME TEAM
Seagull lost weight
WHERE IS XQC
man that caster just savaged grim saying he was never good at tracer
lol
lol, Battle.net client has a OWL tab... which loads OWL website with twitch stream in it
HERE WE GO DALLAS
They dun got fucked the other night
xqc memed out
What lol
Im an LA fan but i have to say,we're going to get stomped
implying xqc isnt a meme
Lol effect and the handwarmers in the pockets
gimme that W evnyus......i mean dallas
bye xqc lol
Make those memes into dreams
the opposite alsos
Why bold your words lul
he's an anti-meme
same comp as the other match
tbh if agilities plays like he did last time we gonna get stomped :/
worked that time
LOL IM BETTER THAN THEIR GENJI
Custa is better than chips as a solo mercy
sodium acetate handwarmers?

But still he's not the best genji in the league rn
look at that chicken
And he's kind of a one trick
the knuckle meme is strong
That's a hot chicken
@balmy wolf NERD
hi
hell no lmao
btw it is weird to european when you look at guy like xqc - "Canadian", yet you look at his name and you clearly see he has hungarian origins
THE KNUCKLES JESUS
JFC
gladiators > valiant
why are there so many knucklez posters?
SHOW DA WEY
Knuckles is a meme fountain
but they're going to get creamed
@balmy wolf yes, but also clearly he has hungarian predecessors
wheres my cocco at?>
@balmy wolf Lengyel means Polish in hungarian
Okay knuckles is a horiffic meme yeah but lol its funny to see SO MANY
The whole crowd is full of fucking Ugandan knuckles
Guys the app is not working!!
I'm going to die
Fรฉlix is a canadian name
It wonโt show the stream
Feelsbadman
knuckles is a legendary minion in hearthstone from the mean streets expansion
someone help
@balmy wolf Felix is a common first name lol
the app is not working
It's startingggg
honestly agilities was not playing as well as i have seen him play in his first match and he kinda needs to be playing better
Fรฉlix
BenchQc
Tbh i love the casters
@balmy wolf or rather, it is latin name
with the รฉรฉรฉรฉ
รฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉรฉ
dude stop
The do you know the way? Sign
@balmy wolf https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fรฉlix
Do you guys know a twitch chat channel without spam? for ow competitive?
god i hate horizon
everyone does don't worry
Are the maps chosen by the teams prior to the matches?
at least im not the one playing it
But
Someone halp
when i see it in a comp game assume i'm gonna lose 20 sr
Junkertown worst map
Pirate ship time
The didgeridoo
Horizon is worse
idk horizon might be worse
why it's always numbani
And junkertown is the second worst
I wanna see some hollywood
horizon is worse imo
pirate ship yes/no ?
Eichenwalde is a shit map too
lmao i opened up twitch chat and sooooo many people getting muted
Yes they will be fags
its fun
what were the analyst predictions?
tbh
yeah
3-1 dallas?
i like junkertown
pirate ship confirmed
wuuuut eichanwalde is dope!
Someone help
yea
junkertown you at lest see some cool stuff sometimes
wtf was that
3-0 dallas
president strat
Imma go kms
lol taimou hiding
My stream is down
microphones?
they don't have an oris
sneeaky piggy
pAUSE
why is it on pause
Paused?
????
wtf
RIP
Paused
they comms just got leaked tho
Pause
paused?
sound issues i think
The fuuuck
W h a t
anyone know what the analyst predictions though?
gotta button check real quick
what are those little packs that all the players have
the ones that they're rubbing their hands no?
yeah it's the comms leaking that they're fixing
hotpacks
hand warmers
they just put Dallas Comms on stream
hand warmers
Handwarmers yeah?
hand warmers
drugs
ooo
seagull is laughing cuz they paused
Handwarmers ooooh
aderal packets that absorb through the skiun
why?
but yeah did the analysts predict 3-1 dallas?
because its cold
because playing gets your hands cold
lol wut
because its really cold on stage
its nice outside
seagull my man needs a haircut
really?
its cold inside
if you ever watch something at a venue
lmao
theyre not playing outside lul
they keep it really air conditioned
why is it paused?
LETS GO
@night notch he barely has hair ๐
@silk linden the opposite, you dont want to start playing with cold hands
those bangs tho
aaand cust's dead
junk seagull, hell yeah
i wouldn't have 1 healer
effect got scattered
i would usually have 2
cuz if your 1st healer dies ur dead
GOD DAMNIT
time for riptire
That first stretch is so hard to defend
effect is gonna have his ult
EVEN THIS CANCER HAPPENS ON ESPORTS
REVERT BASTION THIS IS HORSESHIT
only map this happens on
hot damn
bruh
other than mercy meta EVERY MAP
o_O
they got rekt
more interesting than Tracer every map
dude
they didnt put up any fight on the first point
the hell is this
at least not a hard fight
pirate ship is so fucking dumb
if it works
lmao taimou
They're trying to get an influential pick
Since they were setup before Dallas came back
And they fucked it
AND THE TOTAL MAYHEM COMBO WINS
come one second point hold
He didn't see him
get hooked son
git huckked
Taimou's hooks tho
ohhh
shouldve pressed e
He's one of the better genjis in the game
all of his team are there how did he not get saved from her
Double support ults went off, I'm not sure about that call
mickie feeding -_-





