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I'm gonna miss all the matches cause I'll probably go to sleep soon
I'm catching up on VODs now! :D
are we not watching the OWL why is no one talking
is it going on in general discussion
oh it's a past broadcast
There's Twitch broadcasts of each seperate match with the only spoiler being the video length
But its the best we have rn I guess
The OWL channel is rebroadcasting it too
And there's the full length VOD which I am using
But they didn't have Seoul/Fuel up yet this morning
Looking forward to watching one game live tonight! :D
I hope London whips out Mei again
That was a joy to watch
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I posted on Reddit but curious if I was the only one with this issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/7poduh/owl_suggestion_filter_sounds/
Was driving me nuts last night.
You were playing OW while watching OWL?
Yup
...I don't think anyone can sympathize with your plight here
it's like, such a specific situation
Im sorry fuckers
Did you ask "does this place blow up when its live?"
YES IT DOES
WE WERE HAVING A DALLAS V SEOUL FIGHT LAST NIGHT DURING THE GAME
it blows up in a cloud of nonsense and bad opinions
In which everyone knows Dallas lost because they didnt sub in seagull on HIS map lmao
Anyone who's seen seagull on numbani
Ooooh
Hasbro tweeted "subbing in xQc for a nap" instead of map. He cursed his own player lol
Hasbro?
Well if a player is ill you sub them out otherwise you're just trying to lose
*Hastro
Hastro? LMAO
in which everything gets called a C9 for some reason and xQc is considered a bad player and you're a fanboy if you don't agree that he should be literally incarcerated, apparently
Literally everything is a C9 now
Okay the numbani c9 was a legit c9 tho
Literally yeah
Its kinda funny tbh but it's losing its appeal
dude, he was against RYUJEHONG
xQc should have been kicked out of OWL upon his first suspension.
wouldnt say xqc is the worst. made bad plays though
He's one of the faces of overwatch right?
both teams made bad plays
ryu can hit a fly from across the map with his sleep darts
Wondering how the Valiant v Fuel match will go
He shouldn't be showing that behavior on stream as a face of overwatch. He should have been kicked.
"xQc should have been kicked out" why do people like you exist
Same reason i hate stylosa
whyyyy so many terrible hot takes
ok jeff where is my 100 more tokens
I signed up like 100000 years ago
even got the "overwatch league is starting!" email
because plat chat.
so many toxic comments acting like they are better rofl
that was the most entertaining thing honestly. That and the basketball shot
you know who gets kicked out? Boosters, account sellers, people who literally break rules
xQc is just obnoxious on stream, he didn't do anything major
but people like to shit on him because he's annoying
Hating stylosas content is fine. But you can't deny that he can be a gateway for OWL fans
Yeah I don't watch any of the OW news channels but their reach is no joke
xqc literally threw games to blow off steam. he is toxic af so in that regards it's ok
Sylosa is an attention whore hence why the hate
throwing is not a major infraction of the rules
...
Ok
it's just bad behavior that he got already punished for
oh i see what you are saying
it's not something suspension worthy
Stylosa's followers are my issue with Stylosa. His little cult following tends to adhere to meta only and follow his every word like its the goddamn ten commandments
not from a team i agree but he definitely needs to clean it up though as that is an image
people saying he should be kicked off the league because of that time he threw, for which he was already punished and already apologized, are just being haters
no different than athletes or actors. Yea go do heroine but dont show it to the public
So i just end up hating stylosa in the end for not thinking about what he's encouraging on his viewers
He got suspended what twice?
He's a face of OVERWATCH now
I don't like xQc personally but asking him to be kicked is a little much?
Each to their own ya know
they wanted seagull was all lmao
Hopefully now that the season has started it's zero tolerance
y'all are acting like he's doing bronze to GM challenges on stream or calling people the N word
no he didnt do that but from here on he should get his shit together.
people get suspensions for all kinds of shit
If you infract on blizzard's rules in the first place then maybe you shouldn't be representing them
Did we ever get to know what his consequences where?
you get suspended for accidentally leaving a game early
yea, suspension on account etc
I meant account suspension
he paid his dues
Full on account suspension
If you break blizz's rules THAT badly you shouldn't be allowed in OWL
now if he keeps acting like an asshole continously then something needs to happen
Two account suspensions correct?
So Dallas fuel when's the first match. Crowd is hyped, streams are hyped, it's looking like a phenomenal matchup. Then subs are made after only the first match. Unexpected, but most people have an open mind about it. Fuel goes on offense and absolutely blasts through Temple of Anubis. Blistering speed. 6+ minutes left on the clock. But Dynasty battles back and it's a back and forth offensive shootout going down to the wire. Still looking awesome. Then on the third map Dallas just doesn't look the same. What do you all think happened?
they got fucked
xQc happened.
Tilt/Dissapointment
tired, and tilted
seoul said oh look they are cute with the plays and adapted
xQc is not toxic, what the hell
simple as that
But i have a feeling xQc happened
@warm quartz xQc was there on Anubis and overall didn't play bad. Fuel was still looking good.
Stop trying to asume thing that you wont know for sure it happened
xQc is appearently a great teammate in pro-teams lol
Great communication and what not
xQc is known for shittalking his team, thats why im saying xQc probably happened
all xQc did was having an aggressive playstyle that was figured out by seoul and did not receive enout followup
he didn't do bad plays per se
I don't like xQc's stream myself, and I really think his role in the matches is overplayed
I think it was just general dissapointment from losing Anubis, and they couldn't sub out anyone because the subs were ill
So xQc tilted in the end RESULTING in the loss
Yeah but his stream is toxic so course it must be the case in pro environment /s
^
dallas didnt adapt fast enough I think. Seoul just made some risks and werent punished
I thought he was rough on Ilois, not Anubis. But all of Fuel looked rough on the third map.
@warm quartz everyone in Fuel says he's respectful and professional when with them, stop spewing this bullshit
The line of thought is so fucking wrong.
xQc tilts easily. He likely tilted and resulted in him not changing up his playstyle enough to surprise Seoul
Like fleta fucking flanking on anubis was god damn sexy
That and Taimou decided to meme on numbani
Man you are pretty biased huh lol
STOP ASSUMING THINGS
@warm quartz okay dude we get it. You think he sucks. Want to contribute anything else?
I'm sick of talking about him
Taimou played torb knowing they had a pharah and soldier
I never said he sucks as a player. Just in terms of representing Overwatch he really shouldn't be.
Lmao
@warm quartz k.
Its numbani
Yes he did
Its num fucking bani
no he didtn?
If they dont have pharah i'll be damned
Because they played it the previous round
They played pharah and soldier first round when he went torb
Numbani people, even in LADDER, often will TRY to pharah and see if it works
And he did it again
If it doesnt they switch
they been playing flankers a lot so it was safe to assume tracer or gengu would be picked
Into a pharah and soldier
bro you are assuming so badly here
AND WHEN HE DID IT AGAIN THEY DREW THE ROUND, WHY ARE YOU SAYING STUPID SHIT
Torb is an actual strat lol
Fuel could of easily won
Do you all think there were any major tipping points where the series really turned for Dynasty? I'd say it have to have happened early in the third match.
Well...second round they had already lost.
They should of kept seagull in
the second time worked betted than the second, what are you even fucking saying
It didnt MATTER during the second round
They threw on ilios by having Mickie on roadhog
I think Fuel losing Anubis really threw them off in general
Torb gets played on numbani defense even by Seoul
They also had Harry on zen
seoul played anubis so damn well
Both teams played Anubis amazingly
Ilios they needed different comps, everyone agrees
that hold that burnt 3-4mins was a tipping point
Fuel was mentally fatigued
I'd agree with that
They kinda gave up
they gave up? when?
when?
Numbani
On ilios
whyyyyy so many people saying stupid shit
numbani was a chance to draw
You could tell they fell apart
They knew they were done for by Numbani p much
but seoul outplayed them at the end
After the bad plays xqc made on anubis
Seoul didnt outplay them lmao
Kinda costed them
wtf are you taking about
Then they got tilted
PRO PLAYERS DON'T GET TILTED
Should of just kept seagull in instead of xqc
THIS ISN'T A PLATINUM GAME
I don't think they gave up. I think morale was role and a little panic was setting in, but I don't think any of them were just like "fuck it I'm not even trying" on their debut match
xqc fucked miro up as rein
taimou fucked fleta up as mccree
They can get thrown off their game after a tough series loss though
Xqc didn't do anything
xQc hopped off the point (Causing the xQc9 meme) which knowing human psychology even in the slightest, probably frustrated his team
here we go
He couldn't even hit the broad side of a barn playing winston
Xqc didn't do anything
leave this channel please
A hero that requires no aim
you clearly watched a different game
you clearly don't understand overwatch
Xqc fed so hard
They at least got frustrated, you could tell that with Fuel.
That they just couldnt hold the point any longer on Anubis resulting in the loss
He threw on defense by overextending and costed them the point
and so did miro
@warm quartz wait, are you saying that xQc contributed to the lost? Wow thanks for that new argument you made. Your comments are very refreshing keep them coming.
as winston
xQc is probably being bombarded on twitter and such
against fucking bastion
You guys clearly don't pay attention
lmao
And he c9d
"xQc c9d" please close this channel
I don't think we all have the same definition of threw or throwing
@severe helm dude your fucking stupid
xQc technically did c9 however. He never dropped below 200 and could have stayed in a small amount longer.
sure buddy go back to bnet forums
It was a slight lose-lose situation tho
He jump off, his team cant get there, he stay on his team still couldnt get there
He would have DIED to the focus fire in the same time it took for him to hop off
It was either hop off and hope someone else got on in-time to stall and heal up, or die right there and lose
From my understanding, it means intentionally tossing a match or not giving anfuck and dicking around. It does not mean making a habitual jump away from instant death, getting caught out of position, or not playing your best game.
it was a lose lose, except what he did was actually better. He could have jumped back on point after jumping off, throwing people off, he was just slightly mistimed
So either way xQc was the final nail in the coffin
Him not being able to stay on point tilted his team and threw Fuel off.
People seem to be equating throwing with = he didn't play that right
Well thats what it is in Ladder
Right thats in ladder
The team got tilted even before that
Not in a team that lives together
So everyone just says he was throwing cause its easier and people understand it easier.
It was when xqc overextended on 2nd point defense
Same reason i call my alt (which is higher than my main) my smurf
"tilted his team and threw fuel off" this is not a diamond game goddammit
But that's not accurate
People understand smurf faster than alt around here.
So same rules apply to throwing and not playing right
Least for 80% of the community
Xqc should of just played orisa and stay on point behind the shield
His winston is shit
his winston is shit
ALRIGHT WE GET IT, TWMPORTALS THINKS XQC LOST THE GAME AND IS TOXIC. CAN WE MOVE ON.
He can't even aim with with winston
Which is sad
his winston is shit
heard it here first @silk linden kappa
lol
His aim looked way too jittery
is this real?
Can we talk about those widow kills early in the series. Disgusting.
I thought his orisa wasn't half bad
Dallas is the true Meme team
literally every successful push involved him killing Tobi
But his winston was shit
Dallas is the new Meme Dream Team
(I think thats a team in some tournament lmao)
Its like kephrii and shit right?
Kephrii + A bunch of Australian streamers yeah
Effect literally had to carry a 5v6
Cool im not crazy
Was a one-time thing afaik
With like Loserfruit and Oasis iirc
Because xqc was dead first every fight
kephrii+stylosa would be the dream team
Also, I'm a little disappointed I didn't see more of a mercy pov. I understand why she doesn't get the same screen time as dps, but I don't think I saw any of her from the first and third matchups (didn't watch the gladiator game)
They rode shaz cock for gladiator game
@uneven flax sleepy was tbh
cause nothing was really happening at the time other than the handful of moments
.Who played yesterday
Trying tonight it on youtube
Uh
Find it*
mercy dont go into the fray
Fuel and Seoul
Shaz is the best zen
Sleepy was getting killed so early on every push
I think he was a deciding factor to some degree
I’m cheering for Dallas, I’m sad that their sub was throwing
What do you expect soon is the best tracer @tacit aspen
not gonna lie i was pretty god damn tilted when we were spectating xqc on numbani for 10 sec when all he was doing was lord of the rings walking to the healthpack while a firefight was happening and effect wont he round
Dallas is who you root for for memes. For actual gameplay? Right now it's seoul for me cause i havent seen how the other teams play yet
who the fuck was the camera person like god dammit
Even the announcer was like "sleepy gets picked early! ....I've been saying that a lot...."
And play today
"Stop chanting USA. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE AMERICAN."
Does any*
Best quote
That was funny
I love the casters
The casters are fuckin godsends
All sf shock is individual performance
The "This is how we do it in Burbank" was hilarious
They have no team chemistry whatsoever
Even when they get sinatraa it's still going to be a shit show
That and the seagull bouncing around in the crowd ect
Baby bay did a really good Genji ult,
@uneven flax I think that's way too early to call
La glad plays so good together
Nooot really
Their dives are always coordinated
Valiant almost swung me their way last night
@uneven flax it's the first match of their season and they were playing without their ringers. Plenty of time to come together still
I might start cheering for the gladiators
La val is good because fate and agilities hard carry
Like is this the first time some of y'all have every watched sports?
Just like they did on immort
Right now im seoul (then again who doesnt mildly root for seoul because undeniably they're one of the best teams)
Glad is my favorite team because surefour
Then again they're fuckin koreans
And I like hydration spicy doomfist gameplay
I could swing anyway tbh with the league
For now i have Mercy Excelsior
Where he goes, my heart goes
Because i loved how mercy excelsior looked with golden staff
Idk how harb isn't on sf shock
(One of my mercy buddies went and bought every mercy skin for all the teams)
I'm lowkey hoping Fuel gets Harb
He would be so much better than nomy
He plays all off-tanks
And nevix
someone epxlain me this c9 meme?
Can we get a meme overwatch league team
I want more Mercy pov
Fuel doesn't have D.va back-up, and their DPS has to flex to Zarya/Hog
Harb can fix that <3
Shanghai is a meme
In a nutshell: cloud nine hopped off the point during a tournament. Resulting in a loss..like 3 times i think
They are a masters team lul
They also didn't cap on Lijang I think?
giving away the map for free by stepping off the objective for useless kills
Like they hopped off before capping and it lost them the round
@warm quartz please drop it
We should just change this to the xQc debate channel
Dude, banana glass asked about the c9 meme
I explained it
Nothing more.
Read up
Or in other words: stepping off an already won objective/not bothering to hop on to contest on defense.
Thats pretty much c9ing @wild salmon
Anything i left out?
I see
Besides like the tournament name and the exact details?
All i remember is the first c9 was on first point Gibraltar
You forgot the part where Twitch Chat ran with it and now being team-wiped and losing the point is considered a C9
Here's my predictions tonight:
Spitfire 4 - Mayhem 0
Fusion 1 - Outlaws 3
Uprising 1 - Excelsior 2
Thoughts?
Hmm well we'll see how they play since i havent looked into these 6 teams much besides Exelsior
Only reason i support excelsior is they have Flow3r awaiting his birthday iirc
Soon as he turns 18 he's in the fray
Yeah they do lol
flower doesnt turn 18 before season 2 tho
Spitfire is generally regarded as number 2 to dynasty, and Mayhem is looking real rough. I expect a blowout, especially seeing how lopsided these matches can get.
@scarlet spear thats fine lmao
NYXL could be a clean 4-0 against Boston
I just support Excelsior because I find Flow3r to be kind of cool
PLUS THEIR TEAM UNIFORMS ARE REALLLLY NICE IMO
Fusion no one really knows that much about because they didn't play preseason. I think the lack of information will help them sneak a win off the outlaws, but the outlaws still the better team
@magic zinc definitely possible, but I think Boston may surprise some people.
We'll find out as the matches unfold tonight.
Their marketing is #1 too
Whose marketing?
NYXL marketing is top notch yeh
Lol
I havent seen NYXL's marketing lul
I would probably be a valient fan if their marketing wasn't trash. Horrible colors, terribly boring introduction vid.
they have a banner for their team on the times square
oh
They had that huge ad in times square
and by far the best production of their videos
Yeah that
the origins videos about SBB and ark are great
I'll have to give it a watch
HEY FUCKING ALL LA SONS OF BITCHES
STEP YOUR GAME UP
cough anyways
Isnt the Blizz stage in LA?
They have no excuses
The outlaws had a good one Imo. Show me each player and some of their game play. That's what i want. Valients was one dude talking about building men of good social standing and shit
Im expecting Dallas to release a meme video edited by seagull/xQc soon
That'd be great
Or even better
xQc make a meme video about his c9 and post it
Well
"C9"
Or even at the end of the season 2 videos
"Best moments of Dallas Fuel"
And "Bloopers of Dallas Fuel"
starting watching the games, but i LOL'd at crowd chanting "USA USA USA" for Fuel, and the caster reacting "You can't chant USA when the teams has only 1 american player" 😄
Why didnt they play Daddqd
I was thinking the same thing when I was watching.
oh uhm, i think there is untapped market for Blizzard though - they forgot to add the "alternate skins" to buy (or did i miss it?)
I want to buy the white Sanfranshock
I'm sure I read it somewhere on reddit
that the away skins will release at a later date
let me try
to find it again
did they announce which maps they are going to play today or nah?
Yep, maps are already up
dorado, anubis, oasis, numbani
@hearty wasp iddqd is sick apparently
are the maps going to be the same?
@balmy wolf next up, blizzard will introduce 3CP 😄
cept oasis from the looks of it
Yeah a lot of players have been sick huh?
@tropic onyx ty honey
I wonder if its a flu epidemic or players are just overworked
a lot of them goto the same place to practice
Good point
the blizz arena offices
9cp
They should introduce a gametype like domination in unreal tournament 2k4 where you have to capture 2 points simultaneously to score 1 point
you can download the OWL app Snow
does the OWL app work?
Yup
thank u blizz
I did not know there was an app for ot
It has a Hide Spoiler option too, very nice
I love the app
Check /r/overwatched @wintry kraken
^Its great
nice there is gonna be some lunar on the second match
The only potential spoiler is video length
and Eichenwalde
How long does it normally take to get the 100 league tokens from adding your email address to the notifications on OWL site?
Yeah thats my main drawing point to it
They didn't have Seoul/Fuel up this morning though, I watched the entire Twitch vod instead so I couldn't get spoiled lol
man i want to see some king's row
or hollywood, good old days good old maps
but blizz wants to showcase the less popular maps
Is the time west coast
Is King's Row not in the map pool at all?
it wasnt played at all in preseason
On the schedule
someone said they're doing diff map pools for every stage?
That sounds pretty logical
What is that.
Lol
i wonder if they would have noticed if someone typed !icons 😄
starts off with soemone trolling, then others join in doing it because they don't wanna miss out in case it's real or something
happens in every big stream
Is the schedule western time
schedule is local time
whatever your local time is
https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule also it is saying how long until next game - so it is 5 hours 34 minutes until london - florida game
I'm watching it at work lol
Do they actually wear the owl skins in those games?
Yo what are the numbers on the health bars of the players in the OWL?
What's the Seoul team called?
no
Ah ok cool thanks man
Not the ones at the top, the health bars above the players
Dynasty
@balmy wolf I believe they all use the default skins, and the casting tools forces the skins
hm... player numbresd ? 😄
like in sports
What is Seouls name?
dynasty
Dynasty
Ok
Gingers have no Seols
Lol
the dva ult onto the sleeping winston
I think all of Fuel had a dip after Anubis
xd
Yea the dva ult followed with a pulse stick inside his bubble
👌
Like Zunba only had to throw it in his general direction
But nah he throws it riiight onto xQc lol
yeah it landed perfectly
Was good play
seagull 100% winrate, xqc 0% winrate 🤔
gg
Have you seen USA vs Korea? That was up there too
Runaway vs Lunatic Hai final was great too imo
ye
I miss Runaway :(
Yeah and don't check this channel lol
I have a link if you need it
People are quick to throw out spoilers
/r/Overwatched is great imo
thanks
They even put up dummy 5th matches so you don't get spoiled by that
The only spoiler you get for watching VODS is video length
But I have yet to find out a way to circumvent that
what's the deal with Seagull?
Appearently he was ill?
oh really?
IDDQD too
ok makes sense
Makes you wonder if they just have the flu or if they're overworked
well he streamed for awhile yesterday
or the day before actually
and said that he was really tired
same with the team
Hi
In traditional sports there's a day off before the game usually, don't think eSports has that (yet)
Yeah he probably wasn't able to keep it up and asked to be subbed maybe?
unsure. I don't think that XQC was prepared to step in
I think Seoul did really well to counter xQc's agressive Winston
and he was focused like crazy
Was really cool to watch
yes
exactly
like the world was shitting on him
but he was the target of almost every ult
I guess something was up with Cocco too then, I'd assume they switch him in after noticing that
Is there going to be any other matches that are this good in OWL stage 1?
NYXL vs Houston is a good one
Valient vs Fuel Friday will be good
^Also that
yesss
I am expecting a 3-2 or a 3-1 in Fuels favour
that Soon snipe was insane
preseason they faced shock and gladiators
Valient vs. Fuel will be good as fuck is my expectation. Valient was supposed to be a tier below fuel based on preseason and paper roster, but after last night I think Valient may give fuel trouble if Fuel plays like it did those last two maps
If fuel plays like they did map 1&2 then I think they'll handle Valient easy. But I'm not sure that'll be the case. Should be a very telling matchup.

lol
I think Spitfires will win
Shanghai needs to get there shit together
I support genji in OWL am i doing this right? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/390304785066229775/400932935554826241/unknown.png?width=1145&height=637
oh my
THATS LOUD AS FUCK
SHD is team that failed to even make the finals in the last big Chinese tournament. They finished 7th/8th
Yeah there are some shady rumors around Shanghai...
I mean wtf do you expect now that they are against the best in the world?
@solemn prism rich kids with there genji skins
@balmy wolf i have 2$ left in the bank i aint rich
There is maybe 2 players on SHD that are OWL worthy. 3 if Lucio is meta again.
chinese corruption who knew
I ain’t got any money in the bank and wrong @ @solemn prism
400k viewers for day 1, not bad
Any really good players on philly
Carpe, Shadowburn
philly's in a rough spot because they had a lot less time together compared to other teams
didnt even play the preseason
They also had the SADO situation
so we have no idea how they're gonna perform
Possible that affected the team at least a little bit
Tough first matchup too
add that on top of a very very mixed nationality team, could be communication issues
which needs time to build
whos your favourite too win
8 different nationalities, that's more diverse than dallas fuel
9 if including snillo (who's inactive due to age atm)
Houston 3-1
SADO situation?
dats how we do it in philly
SADO got suspended for 30 games for boosting accounts
I reckon that affects the team a little bit at least
yh but its all about that team called fortnite bashers
carpe, shadowburn and boombox are philly's star players
if all 3 of them popoff, maybe MAYBE
but vs london, yea prob not
If the synergy isn't there they're going down 100%
london literally 2 top korean teams in one
how does a team with < 2 weeks time together even beat that
what if instead of being london it had been called the mexico city chiahuahua's and they were the mexico team
Yeah
but who knows stars align, weird unexpected stuff has happened in OW pro level
like doomfist disco dancing?
yes
im guessing its a jke
Oh shit dallas and seoul will be going head to head again on feb.28
Dallas will get owned by Seoul
Seoul new Optic when?
I see i think il check it out
@balmy wolf go watch the vod of Dallas fuel vs Seoul dynasty
The League is fun to have open even while playing OW
Its worth it also, for the tokens
How do you get tokens for the league?
You get 100 by logging into Overwatch before February... 8th(?)
You get another 100 by signing up to the e-mail alerts
Lemme find that for you
Yeah but how he was saying it was like you get them for watchin.
So if i sat through all those hours in playoverwatch for nothing last night lmao
Nah jk i actually wanted to see Fuel v Seoul
Who do you think is gonna win OWL matches today?
My Guesses are Spitfire (VS Mayhem), Outlaws (vs Fusion) and NYXL (vs Uprising)
ready for some more 4-0s today
I'm interestend is seeing if Outlaws are as dominant as people say, and if Uprising have improved as much as the people who scrimmed them say
though I can't see any upset happening
maybeee houston v philly and boston v NY won't be 4-0s, but I'm not sure
Outlaws could very well be dominant but Fusion is a pure wild card
That being said, it doesn't seem likely for Fusion to just overthrow Outlaws like that
as Doa said, they are potentially the best team in the league 
dota two or league?
The thing about fusion is that they have pure raw skill
But that won’t help in a league like this
I think basically every player in the league has amazing raw skill
it comes down to gamesense and coordination
ok so xQc just said that the roster changes during a series are submitted before the match, I didn't know that
so the coach can't change rosters on a whim based on performance
Oh that sounds... really weird?
Imagine that in a traditional sports thats really odd
well, it makes sense that they don't improvise strats
like, the roster without seagull on Ilios was a comp they had practiced and strategized with
I'm sure they've scrimmed multiple options
Or even multiple people on the same role in a strat
And if not they can just choose not to switch
Just sounds really weird to me that that's determined beforehand
@silk linden i always thought it would be like WWE.. "noooowwwww entering the arena it's SEEEAAAGGGUUULLLL"
he also said he can be asked to switch off or if his comms are tilted they can force him out
yeah but, that seems like an extreme case
makes sense that they want to stick to a comp they practiced and planned as much as possible
@silk linden Did he mean that the team just decides for each map, or that OWL Management requires you to make your subs known pre-match
both I guess
btw do we have any confirmation of people receving their 100 tokens email yet?
Nupe
I want my dallas skin...
the admins/refs would need an idea of which players are switching on/off to ensure the smoothest transition, i assume that's why @magic zinc
that's like super secret powerful info though
yeah thats why only the admins would be allowed that info
like, imagine if you knew beforehand if Spitfire were fielding Busan or Kongdoo on a ceratin map
the teams wouldnt see it
That reduces the tactical impact imo
Like last night Seoul did really well to counter xQc's agressive Winston
And they're just tough out of luck at that point?
the thing I noticed last night was, as soon as Fleta was out of commission, dallas won the push
like, always
also, Taimou should consider being a tank main full time 
ok no he did good on soldier and reaper
Heh
there's no justification for him playingWidowmaker on that team it seems like
He can be on the Widow when they need the added pressure from Effect's Tracer
actually, you know what? Maybe Custa did better than Chips...
Mercy meta making me say heretic shit like this
do we have an estimated date on the PTR coming to live servers? estimated to be a couple weeks after bliz world correcT?
I think they still want to tweak Mercy
Very possible it'll take 3 weeks or so, don't think they want to mess this one up
yeah Jeff said they havent submitted the balance change patch to Xbox/playstation yet, but blizzard world has
so its after that at least
Yeah I kind of expect Blizzardworld next week
Chips won't shine as much with Ana out of the meta
He didnt even play that bad
Custa and Chips zen are pretty similar so cant say who's better
None of the Fuel played awfully.
it was more like Seoul adjusted better
They just got outplayed by Seoul.
Yeah like on Numbani
Fuel plays a comp that is very good at punishing people.
iddqd was right about the koreans vs west thing
But Seoul only went in when they had Pharah and Tracer damage
what seperates koreans and west was that koreans can adjust better on the fly
Thats just a seperation between the east and the west in general
The east is very good at that passive, analytical, adaptive form of play
cant say the same about China tho
Whereas the west is generally better at aggressive, fast play.
cant say the same about China tho
I think that's why the East has made huge jumps since APEX 1
west are known to be better mechanically as well, in terms of raw aim due to FPS being more popular on that side of the world
not to say koreans are bad at aiming, some of those shots were godlike
I read an article a while ago on how Korean coaches would analyze Miro's Winston play, every single jump
that's what people said before apex
And apply that advice to their main tanks
that koreans are bad at fps
It worked; the other tanks have since caught up to Miro on Winston imo
not necessarily bad, but not as good as the west you know
mechanically west and koreans are about equal
mechanically west and koreans are about equal
but west have more experience in FPS
tbh I dont feel like that holds true in OW
In CS for sure.
tbh I dont feel like that holds true in OW
In CS for sure.
But not so much in OW
mechanically west and koreans are about equal
but west have more experience in FPS
CS is just not popular in korea compared to OW
with OW if a team performs badly you can't say it was because they had bad aim or missed shots, it could simply be becase their positioning or strats were better, so koreans get punished less for 'worse' aim because their knowledge of the game is immense
i just rewatched the GLA games and boi, the beauty of Shaz zenyatta
I think that most importantly it shows how essential it is to move as a team with good comms. Some of the set up plays Seoul did on Anubis were incredible! I really liked how Dallas made adjustments to their appraches on Anubis too. That was just such a good map! AHHH
where you from @balmy wolf
@paper helm UK
Already dying to see Dallas vs Seoul again.
same, so you definitely know what its like to play CS with russians
Feb 28 tara
The Anubis map was probably my favorite Overwatch map ever so far
Im counting down the days
The Anubis map was probably my favorite Overwatch map ever so far
Im counting down the days
The Anubis map was probably my favorite Overwatch map ever so far
I seen videos
South Korea VS Usa on Hanamura comes close, though
rush b every time
Ooooh that was so good too!
and a swear word I assume
oh it's something, aside from the rush B thing they also tilt very easily and can turn from friendly to unbelievably toxic in milliseconds
@warm quartz wait wah
we already know
He is not a player 😛
kek
been known for like a month
Its.... for a vlog I assume?
Then why the fuck are they just posting it fuck you spitfire
well damn rip spitfire even more
Probably for the video/media stuff
Roater was locked a while ago and lets be honest he'd at best be the guy that makes the tea during the break
why you followin him
Fuck you twitter
and stylosa already have been using spitfire as an alt account name
Yeah they have 12 players on the team. He is probably part of the staff.
I dont someone retweeted it
Its pretty obvious Clickbait?
stylosa hates me
it looks so awkard in the video, the koreans are like hell yea we're british!
If stylosa legit joined spitfire as a player...i feel bad for you londoners
"Pip pip cheerio!"-Koreans about being on Spitfire
¯_(ツ)_/¯
being from UK i feel no sense of pride for london spitfire
Literally impossible at this point but okay
Roster was locked months ago and published
I meant in general eagle
Oh
If he joined spitfire EVER as a player i would feel so bad for the londoners
He's the PR guy
you got 2 really good korean teams for london, that's good enough
it was weird tho
They're not trying super hard to woo the European crowd imo
Although I've heard they're trying really hard to learn English
Dallas Fuel is a great piece of PR just by existing
EnVyUs being the most popular western team
Adding 2 extremely marketable players with huge followings
ALL THEY NEED IS HARBLEU
Calvin doesn't wanna go pro
cant have a meme team without timthetatman
you have too many moments
Truth
and kephrii
most of them are shit
calvin would be part of a stream team, not a meme team
Hey that sums up my general OW play @silk linden
Can we get the Chicago Angels with TimTheTatMan and all the other strimmers
Lassiz, Kephrii, ect
Animetic lmao
NO KEPHRII
the youtubers
Australian Angels, its just streamers
lul kephrii
its literally a meme fucking team
🤢
t-thats the point
kephrii's meme team call the 250mgs of 8 inches
They're the meme team
@vestal mortar Put him in OWL! Widow scales with the team! He'll turn heads! We'll be surprised! He'll carry!!

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Can't believe he unironically said that lol
kephrii + chipsa dps one tricks
Yas
About himself no less...
with fuey500 and stevoo on support
Yis
fuey500 occasional rein ok
Hey dont forget EeveeA
Animetic tho
eh i bet chipsa has a lot more flexability than kephrii
Chipsa is quite a good Genji

But he's inactive on NYXL's roster
Right but they still need a starting 6
whatever it is, dont lump wraxu in that group
he too chill for them
Wraxu is too flexible to be in that group
even pros compliment wraxu for being an insane hanzo
like wraxu is prob the best one trick for his hero
better than kephrii on widow (compared to other widows)
I'd say Chipsa is up there also
if wraxu were to one trick
Kephrii regularly gets out-Widowed but blames it on hacks...
chipsa's thing is, I don't think he would enjoy the pro life
hell, he was gonna quit OW before Doomfist came out
he just found his niche and he likes it there
good thing doomfist came out!
just like some players would be much better off as streamers, money wise, but they just want to play pro
you can already see it in the eyes of xqc that he wants to be a streamer more than he wants to be a pro
I don't think so
pro is not for everyone, it's a lot more stressful
people make too many assumptions about xQc tbh
xqc wants to be both, but there's just no time for that
I think he's still very much inbetween, its breaking him up a little bit
But we can't assume things
Yeah he wants to do both full-time it seems
Admirable, but a little destructive probably
stream 10 hours a day + scrim 6 hours a day,that's just asking for burnout
I mean, he's hardly the only player who spends most of his time playing even when not in practice
it's just how some people like to spend their time
Well his type of stream doesn't lend himself to winding down
I guess they will force him to do other things once they get a team house
think he's the highest level player in OWL too
like Valiant, who seem to have all their daily life planned out by their org
in terms of one account
koreans don't play on ladder?
Thats because he hasn't always been a pro and scrims don't give levels I think
he has passion for the game i personally hope it lasts, he def needs to chill sometime to not get burnt out
1 hour and 30 min, isn't it?
Well thats when the match starts
whatever says on the website
I assume there's a pre-show, maybe a recap of last night
seoul
away skins are hype