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balmy wolf
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@gaunt acorn you didnt miss anything exciting

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just some pot shots by fleta

gaunt acorn
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I saw point B onwards

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then all of second round

rare tangle
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I'm gonna miss all the matches cause I'll probably go to sleep soon

vestal mortar
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I'm catching up on VODs now! :D

sleek lagoon
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are we not watching the OWL why is no one talking

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is it going on in general discussion

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oh it's a past broadcast

vestal mortar
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Most people watched it last night

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Yeah

sleek lagoon
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does this chat blow -the fuck up- when it's on?

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I hope so

magic zinc
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There's Twitch broadcasts of each seperate match with the only spoiler being the video length

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But its the best we have rn I guess

vestal mortar
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The OWL channel is rebroadcasting it too

magic zinc
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I also recommend /r/overwatched

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Its really nicely formatted for each map even

vestal mortar
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And there's the full length VOD which I am using

magic zinc
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But they didn't have Seoul/Fuel up yet this morning

vestal mortar
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Looking forward to watching one game live tonight! :D

magic zinc
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I hope London whips out Mei again

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That was a joy to watch

wet shoal
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Was driving me nuts last night.

magic zinc
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You were playing OW while watching OWL?

wet shoal
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Yup

silk linden
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...I don't think anyone can sympathize with your plight here

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it's like, such a specific situation

warm quartz
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Im sorry fuckers

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Did you ask "does this place blow up when its live?"

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YES IT DOES

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WE WERE HAVING A DALLAS V SEOUL FIGHT LAST NIGHT DURING THE GAME

silk linden
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it blows up in a cloud of nonsense and bad opinions

warm quartz
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In which everyone knows Dallas lost because they didnt sub in seagull on HIS map lmao

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Anyone who's seen seagull on numbani

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Ooooh

magic zinc
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Seagull was ill

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So I've heard

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Cocco too I think

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(or was it Custa)

warm quartz
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The show must go on.

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Thats all i can say

tropic onyx
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Hasbro tweeted "subbing in xQc for a nap" instead of map. He cursed his own player lol

warm quartz
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Hasbro?

magic zinc
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Well if a player is ill you sub them out otherwise you're just trying to lose

tropic onyx
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*Hastro

warm quartz
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Hastro? LMAO

silk linden
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in which everything gets called a C9 for some reason and xQc is considered a bad player and you're a fanboy if you don't agree that he should be literally incarcerated, apparently

warm quartz
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with how much xQc got slept during Numbani lmao

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Two in air sleeps

magic zinc
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Literally everything is a C9 now

warm quartz
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Okay the numbani c9 was a legit c9 tho

tropic onyx
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Literally yeah

magic zinc
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Its kinda funny tbh but it's losing its appeal

silk linden
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dude, he was against RYUJEHONG

warm quartz
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xQc should have been kicked out of OWL upon his first suspension.

severe helm
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wouldnt say xqc is the worst. made bad plays though

warm quartz
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He's one of the faces of overwatch right?

severe helm
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both teams made bad plays

silk linden
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ryu can hit a fly from across the map with his sleep darts

magic zinc
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I wasn't super impressed with any of the Seoul/Fuel tanks

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I've seen them play better

tropic onyx
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Wondering how the Valiant v Fuel match will go

warm quartz
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He shouldn't be showing that behavior on stream as a face of overwatch. He should have been kicked.

silk linden
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"xQc should have been kicked out" why do people like you exist

warm quartz
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Same reason i hate stylosa

silk linden
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whyyyy so many terrible hot takes

rugged cedar
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ok jeff where is my 100 more tokens

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I signed up like 100000 years ago

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even got the "overwatch league is starting!" email

severe helm
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because plat chat.

so many toxic comments acting like they are better rofl

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that was the most entertaining thing honestly. That and the basketball shot

silk linden
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you know who gets kicked out? Boosters, account sellers, people who literally break rules

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xQc is just obnoxious on stream, he didn't do anything major

severe helm
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well he threw...

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sooo theres that

silk linden
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but people like to shit on him because he's annoying

tropic onyx
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Hating stylosas content is fine. But you can't deny that he can be a gateway for OWL fans

magic zinc
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Yeah I don't watch any of the OW news channels but their reach is no joke

severe helm
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xqc literally threw games to blow off steam. he is toxic af so in that regards it's ok

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Sylosa is an attention whore hence why the hate

silk linden
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throwing is not a major infraction of the rules

severe helm
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that is griefing..

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wut

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lmao

tropic onyx
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...
Ok

silk linden
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it's just bad behavior that he got already punished for

severe helm
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oh i see what you are saying

silk linden
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it's not something suspension worthy

warm quartz
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Stylosa's followers are my issue with Stylosa. His little cult following tends to adhere to meta only and follow his every word like its the goddamn ten commandments

severe helm
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not from a team i agree but he definitely needs to clean it up though as that is an image

silk linden
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people saying he should be kicked off the league because of that time he threw, for which he was already punished and already apologized, are just being haters

severe helm
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no different than athletes or actors. Yea go do heroine but dont show it to the public

warm quartz
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So i just end up hating stylosa in the end for not thinking about what he's encouraging on his viewers

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He got suspended what twice?

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He's a face of OVERWATCH now

magic zinc
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I don't like xQc personally but asking him to be kicked is a little much?

severe helm
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^

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butthurt people

magic zinc
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Each to their own ya know

severe helm
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they wanted seagull was all lmao

warm quartz
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Hopefully now that the season has started it's zero tolerance

silk linden
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y'all are acting like he's doing bronze to GM challenges on stream or calling people the N word

warm quartz
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You get suspended you're out of the league.

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Plain and simple

severe helm
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no he didnt do that but from here on he should get his shit together.

silk linden
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people get suspensions for all kinds of shit

warm quartz
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If you infract on blizzard's rules in the first place then maybe you shouldn't be representing them

magic zinc
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Did we ever get to know what his consequences where?

silk linden
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you get suspended for accidentally leaving a game early

severe helm
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yea, suspension on account etc

warm quartz
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I meant account suspension

severe helm
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he paid his dues

warm quartz
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Full on account suspension

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If you break blizz's rules THAT badly you shouldn't be allowed in OWL

silk linden
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what he did was blown way out of proportion

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THAT BADLY WHAT?

severe helm
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now if he keeps acting like an asshole continously then something needs to happen

warm quartz
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Two account suspensions correct?

tacit aspen
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So Dallas fuel when's the first match. Crowd is hyped, streams are hyped, it's looking like a phenomenal matchup. Then subs are made after only the first match. Unexpected, but most people have an open mind about it. Fuel goes on offense and absolutely blasts through Temple of Anubis. Blistering speed. 6+ minutes left on the clock. But Dynasty battles back and it's a back and forth offensive shootout going down to the wire. Still looking awesome. Then on the third map Dallas just doesn't look the same. What do you all think happened?

severe helm
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they got fucked

warm quartz
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xQc happened.

magic zinc
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Tilt/Dissapointment

severe helm
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tired, and tilted

warm quartz
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He's a toxic dick

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Taimou got off his game a little

severe helm
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seoul said oh look they are cute with the plays and adapted

silk linden
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xQc is not toxic, what the hell

severe helm
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simple as that

warm quartz
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But i have a feeling xQc happened

tacit aspen
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@warm quartz xQc was there on Anubis and overall didn't play bad. Fuel was still looking good.

grizzled mulch
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Stop trying to asume thing that you wont know for sure it happened

magic zinc
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xQc is appearently a great teammate in pro-teams lol

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Great communication and what not

warm quartz
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xQc is known for shittalking his team, thats why im saying xQc probably happened

silk linden
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all xQc did was having an aggressive playstyle that was figured out by seoul and did not receive enout followup

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he didn't do bad plays per se

tacit aspen
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I don't like xQc's stream myself, and I really think his role in the matches is overplayed

magic zinc
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I think it was just general dissapointment from losing Anubis, and they couldn't sub out anyone because the subs were ill

warm quartz
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So xQc tilted in the end RESULTING in the loss

grizzled mulch
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Yeah but his stream is toxic so course it must be the case in pro environment /s

magic zinc
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^

severe helm
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dallas didnt adapt fast enough I think. Seoul just made some risks and werent punished

tacit aspen
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I thought he was rough on Ilois, not Anubis. But all of Fuel looked rough on the third map.

silk linden
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@warm quartz everyone in Fuel says he's respectful and professional when with them, stop spewing this bullshit

grizzled mulch
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The line of thought is so fucking wrong.

warm quartz
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xQc tilts easily. He likely tilted and resulted in him not changing up his playstyle enough to surprise Seoul

severe helm
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Like fleta fucking flanking on anubis was god damn sexy

warm quartz
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That and Taimou decided to meme on numbani

magic zinc
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Man you are pretty biased huh lol

grizzled mulch
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STOP ASSUMING THINGS

tacit aspen
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@warm quartz okay dude we get it. You think he sucks. Want to contribute anything else?

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I'm sick of talking about him

uneven flax
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Taimou played torb knowing they had a pharah and soldier

warm quartz
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I never said he sucks as a player. Just in terms of representing Overwatch he really shouldn't be.

uneven flax
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Lmao

tacit aspen
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@warm quartz k.

silk linden
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he didn't know they had pharah and soldier

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do you even know how the game works

warm quartz
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Its numbani

uneven flax
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Yes he did

warm quartz
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Its num fucking bani

severe helm
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no he didtn?

warm quartz
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If they dont have pharah i'll be damned

uneven flax
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Because they played it the previous round

severe helm
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how are you assuming that

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torb isnt a shit hero just because him being a meme

uneven flax
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They played pharah and soldier first round when he went torb

warm quartz
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Numbani people, even in LADDER, often will TRY to pharah and see if it works

uneven flax
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And he did it again

warm quartz
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If it doesnt they switch

severe helm
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they been playing flankers a lot so it was safe to assume tracer or gengu would be picked

uneven flax
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Into a pharah and soldier

severe helm
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bro you are assuming so badly here

silk linden
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AND WHEN HE DID IT AGAIN THEY DREW THE ROUND, WHY ARE YOU SAYING STUPID SHIT

grizzled mulch
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Torb is an actual strat lol

uneven flax
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Fuel could of easily won

severe helm
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nooo

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lmao

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no

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they couldnt have lmfao

tacit aspen
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Do you all think there were any major tipping points where the series really turned for Dynasty? I'd say it have to have happened early in the third match.

warm quartz
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Well...second round they had already lost.

uneven flax
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They should of kept seagull in

silk linden
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the second time worked betted than the second, what are you even fucking saying

warm quartz
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It didnt MATTER during the second round

uneven flax
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They threw on ilios by having Mickie on roadhog

magic zinc
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I think Fuel losing Anubis really threw them off in general

silk linden
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Torb gets played on numbani defense even by Seoul

uneven flax
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They also had Harry on zen

severe helm
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seoul played anubis so damn well

uneven flax
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If fuel had their shit together they woulda won

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Easy

magic zinc
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Both teams played Anubis amazingly

silk linden
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Ilios they needed different comps, everyone agrees

severe helm
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that hold that burnt 3-4mins was a tipping point

tacit aspen
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@magic zinc agreed

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@severe helm good point

uneven flax
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Fuel was mentally fatigued

tacit aspen
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I'd agree with that

uneven flax
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They kinda gave up

silk linden
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they gave up? when?

severe helm
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when?

warm quartz
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Numbani

uneven flax
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On ilios

silk linden
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whyyyyy so many people saying stupid shit

severe helm
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numbani was a chance to draw

uneven flax
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You could tell they fell apart

warm quartz
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They knew they were done for by Numbani p much

severe helm
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but seoul outplayed them at the end

uneven flax
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After the bad plays xqc made on anubis

severe helm
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no they didtn?

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xqc outplayed miro on rein

warm quartz
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Seoul didnt outplay them lmao

uneven flax
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Kinda costed them

severe helm
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wtf are you taking about

uneven flax
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Then they got tilted

silk linden
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PRO PLAYERS DON'T GET TILTED

uneven flax
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Should of just kept seagull in instead of xqc

silk linden
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THIS ISN'T A PLATINUM GAME

tacit aspen
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I don't think they gave up. I think morale was role and a little panic was setting in, but I don't think any of them were just like "fuck it I'm not even trying" on their debut match

severe helm
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xqc fucked miro up as rein
taimou fucked fleta up as mccree

magic zinc
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They can get thrown off their game after a tough series loss though

uneven flax
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Xqc didn't do anything

warm quartz
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xQc hopped off the point (Causing the xQc9 meme) which knowing human psychology even in the slightest, probably frustrated his team

severe helm
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here we go

uneven flax
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He couldn't even hit the broad side of a barn playing winston

silk linden
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Xqc didn't do anything
leave this channel please

uneven flax
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A hero that requires no aim

severe helm
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you clearly watched a different game

silk linden
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you clearly don't understand overwatch

severe helm
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or are trolling

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probably trolling

uneven flax
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Xqc fed so hard

warm quartz
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They at least got frustrated, you could tell that with Fuel.

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That they just couldnt hold the point any longer on Anubis resulting in the loss

uneven flax
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He threw on defense by overextending and costed them the point

severe helm
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and so did miro

tacit aspen
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@warm quartz wait, are you saying that xQc contributed to the lost? Wow thanks for that new argument you made. Your comments are very refreshing keep them coming.

severe helm
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as winston

warm quartz
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xQc is probably being bombarded on twitter and such

severe helm
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against fucking bastion

uneven flax
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You guys clearly don't pay attention

severe helm
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lmao

uneven flax
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And he c9d

severe helm
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im done

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fucking typical plat lmao

silk linden
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"xQc c9d" please close this channel

tacit aspen
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I don't think we all have the same definition of threw or throwing

uneven flax
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@severe helm dude your fucking stupid

warm quartz
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xQc technically did c9 however. He never dropped below 200 and could have stayed in a small amount longer.

severe helm
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sure buddy go back to bnet forums

warm quartz
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It was a slight lose-lose situation tho

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He jump off, his team cant get there, he stay on his team still couldnt get there

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He would have DIED to the focus fire in the same time it took for him to hop off

magic zinc
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It was either hop off and hope someone else got on in-time to stall and heal up, or die right there and lose

tacit aspen
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From my understanding, it means intentionally tossing a match or not giving anfuck and dicking around. It does not mean making a habitual jump away from instant death, getting caught out of position, or not playing your best game.

silk linden
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it was a lose lose, except what he did was actually better. He could have jumped back on point after jumping off, throwing people off, he was just slightly mistimed

warm quartz
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So either way xQc was the final nail in the coffin

silk linden
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but he didn't do a bad thing

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also bit harsh on him when all of his team was dead

warm quartz
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Him not being able to stay on point tilted his team and threw Fuel off.

tacit aspen
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People seem to be equating throwing with = he didn't play that right

warm quartz
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Well thats what it is in Ladder

magic zinc
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Right thats in ladder

uneven flax
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The team got tilted even before that

magic zinc
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Not in a team that lives together

warm quartz
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So everyone just says he was throwing cause its easier and people understand it easier.

uneven flax
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It was when xqc overextended on 2nd point defense

warm quartz
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Same reason i call my alt (which is higher than my main) my smurf

silk linden
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"tilted his team and threw fuel off" this is not a diamond game goddammit

tacit aspen
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But that's not accurate

warm quartz
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People understand smurf faster than alt around here.

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So same rules apply to throwing and not playing right

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Least for 80% of the community

uneven flax
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Xqc should of just played orisa and stay on point behind the shield

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His winston is shit

silk linden
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his winston is shit

tacit aspen
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ALRIGHT WE GET IT, TWMPORTALS THINKS XQC LOST THE GAME AND IS TOXIC. CAN WE MOVE ON.

uneven flax
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He can't even aim with with winston

silk linden
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xqc's winston is shit

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xqc

uneven flax
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Which is sad

silk linden
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plays a shit winston

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ok

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ooooook

gaunt acorn
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his winston is shit

magic zinc
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heard it here first @silk linden kappa

gaunt acorn
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lol

uneven flax
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His aim looked way too jittery

warm quartz
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Lower sens by like

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.5 lmao

severe helm
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is this real?

tacit aspen
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Can we talk about those widow kills early in the series. Disgusting.

uneven flax
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I thought his orisa wasn't half bad

warm quartz
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Dallas is the true Meme team

silk linden
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literally every successful push involved him killing Tobi

uneven flax
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But his winston was shit

warm quartz
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Dallas is the new Meme Dream Team

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(I think thats a team in some tournament lmao)

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Its like kephrii and shit right?

magic zinc
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Kephrii + A bunch of Australian streamers yeah

uneven flax
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Effect literally had to carry a 5v6

warm quartz
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Cool im not crazy

magic zinc
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Was a one-time thing afaik

warm quartz
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With like Loserfruit and Oasis iirc

uneven flax
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Because xqc was dead first every fight

severe helm
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kephrii+stylosa would be the dream team

tacit aspen
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Also, I'm a little disappointed I didn't see more of a mercy pov. I understand why she doesn't get the same screen time as dps, but I don't think I saw any of her from the first and third matchups (didn't watch the gladiator game)

uneven flax
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They rode shaz cock for gladiator game

tacit aspen
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@uneven flax sleepy was tbh

severe helm
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cause nothing was really happening at the time other than the handful of moments

thorn forum
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.Who played yesterday

uneven flax
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He got all the sped time

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Spec

thorn forum
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Trying tonight it on youtube

warm quartz
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Uh

thorn forum
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Find it*

warm quartz
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Shock+val

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Gladiators and someone

severe helm
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mercy dont go into the fray

warm quartz
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Fuel and Seoul

uneven flax
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Shaz is the best zen

tacit aspen
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Sleepy was getting killed so early on every push

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I think he was a deciding factor to some degree

steel igloo
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I’m cheering for Dallas, I’m sad that their sub was throwing

uneven flax
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What do you expect soon is the best tracer @tacit aspen

severe helm
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not gonna lie i was pretty god damn tilted when we were spectating xqc on numbani for 10 sec when all he was doing was lord of the rings walking to the healthpack while a firefight was happening and effect wont he round

warm quartz
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Dallas is who you root for for memes. For actual gameplay? Right now it's seoul for me cause i havent seen how the other teams play yet

severe helm
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who the fuck was the camera person like god dammit

tacit aspen
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Even the announcer was like "sleepy gets picked early! ....I've been saying that a lot...."

thorn forum
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And play today

warm quartz
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"Stop chanting USA. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE AMERICAN."

thorn forum
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Does any*

warm quartz
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Best quote

tacit aspen
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That was funny

magic zinc
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I love the casters

warm quartz
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The casters are fuckin godsends

uneven flax
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All sf shock is individual performance

magic zinc
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The "This is how we do it in Burbank" was hilarious

uneven flax
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They have no team chemistry whatsoever

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Even when they get sinatraa it's still going to be a shit show

warm quartz
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That and the seagull bouncing around in the crowd ect

steel igloo
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Baby bay did a really good Genji ult,

tacit aspen
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@uneven flax I think that's way too early to call

uneven flax
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La glad plays so good together

warm quartz
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Nooot really

uneven flax
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Their dives are always coordinated

warm quartz
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Valiant almost swung me their way last night

tacit aspen
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@uneven flax it's the first match of their season and they were playing without their ringers. Plenty of time to come together still

steel igloo
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I might start cheering for the gladiators

uneven flax
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La val is good because fate and agilities hard carry

tacit aspen
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Like is this the first time some of y'all have every watched sports?

uneven flax
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Just like they did on immort

warm quartz
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Right now im seoul (then again who doesnt mildly root for seoul because undeniably they're one of the best teams)

tacit aspen
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I don't

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I'm all in on Houston

uneven flax
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Glad is my favorite team because surefour

warm quartz
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Then again they're fuckin koreans

uneven flax
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And I like hydration spicy doomfist gameplay

warm quartz
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I could swing anyway tbh with the league

magic zinc
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I'm on Team Seoul rn

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Only Harb can change my mind <3

warm quartz
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For now i have Mercy Excelsior

magic zinc
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Where he goes, my heart goes

warm quartz
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Because i loved how mercy excelsior looked with golden staff

uneven flax
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Idk how harb isn't on sf shock

warm quartz
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(One of my mercy buddies went and bought every mercy skin for all the teams)

magic zinc
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I'm lowkey hoping Fuel gets Harb

uneven flax
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He would be so much better than nomy

magic zinc
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He plays all off-tanks

uneven flax
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And nevix

wild salmon
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someone epxlain me this c9 meme?

warm quartz
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Can we get a meme overwatch league team

tacit aspen
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I want more Mercy pov

magic zinc
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Fuel doesn't have D.va back-up, and their DPS has to flex to Zarya/Hog

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Harb can fix that <3

uneven flax
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Shanghai is a meme

warm quartz
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In a nutshell: cloud nine hopped off the point during a tournament. Resulting in a loss..like 3 times i think

uneven flax
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They are a masters team lul

warm quartz
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When 3+ members were alive

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Thats the c9 meme summed up pretty easily

magic zinc
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They also didn't cap on Lijang I think?

scarlet spear
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giving away the map for free by stepping off the objective for useless kills

magic zinc
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Like they hopped off before capping and it lost them the round

tacit aspen
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@warm quartz please drop it

warm quartz
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I was explaining c9 to someone who asked?

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Lmao?

tacit aspen
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We should just change this to the xQc debate channel

warm quartz
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Dude, banana glass asked about the c9 meme

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I explained it

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Nothing more.

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Read up

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Or in other words: stepping off an already won objective/not bothering to hop on to contest on defense.

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Thats pretty much c9ing @wild salmon

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Anything i left out?

wild salmon
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I see

warm quartz
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Besides like the tournament name and the exact details?

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All i remember is the first c9 was on first point Gibraltar

magic zinc
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You forgot the part where Twitch Chat ran with it and now being team-wiped and losing the point is considered a C9

warm quartz
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Eh yeah

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I was mostly explaining what resulting in the c9

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The origins of the meme

tacit aspen
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Here's my predictions tonight:
Spitfire 4 - Mayhem 0
Fusion 1 - Outlaws 3
Uprising 1 - Excelsior 2

Thoughts?

warm quartz
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Hmm well we'll see how they play since i havent looked into these 6 teams much besides Exelsior

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Only reason i support excelsior is they have Flow3r awaiting his birthday iirc

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Soon as he turns 18 he's in the fray

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Yeah they do lol

scarlet spear
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flower doesnt turn 18 before season 2 tho

tacit aspen
#

Spitfire is generally regarded as number 2 to dynasty, and Mayhem is looking real rough. I expect a blowout, especially seeing how lopsided these matches can get.

scarlet spear
#

so we wont see him in the first season

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sadly

warm quartz
#

@scarlet spear thats fine lmao

magic zinc
#

NYXL could be a clean 4-0 against Boston

warm quartz
#

I just support Excelsior because I find Flow3r to be kind of cool

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PLUS THEIR TEAM UNIFORMS ARE REALLLLY NICE IMO

tacit aspen
#

Fusion no one really knows that much about because they didn't play preseason. I think the lack of information will help them sneak a win off the outlaws, but the outlaws still the better team

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@magic zinc definitely possible, but I think Boston may surprise some people.

warm quartz
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We'll find out as the matches unfold tonight.

tropic onyx
#

Their marketing is #1 too

tacit aspen
#

Whose marketing?

warm quartz
#

Outlaw?

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Fuel?

scarlet spear
#

NYXL marketing is top notch yeh

warm quartz
#

Lol

scarlet spear
#

thats what im thinking

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they got the best marketing by far

warm quartz
#

I havent seen NYXL's marketing lul

tacit aspen
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I would probably be a valient fan if their marketing wasn't trash. Horrible colors, terribly boring introduction vid.

scarlet spear
#

they have a banner for their team on the times square

warm quartz
#

oh

tacit aspen
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They had that huge ad in times square

scarlet spear
#

and by far the best production of their videos

tacit aspen
#

Yeah that

scarlet spear
#

the origins videos about SBB and ark are great

tacit aspen
#

I'll have to give it a watch

warm quartz
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HEY FUCKING ALL LA SONS OF BITCHES

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STEP YOUR GAME UP

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cough anyways

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Isnt the Blizz stage in LA?

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They have no excuses

tacit aspen
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The outlaws had a good one Imo. Show me each player and some of their game play. That's what i want. Valients was one dude talking about building men of good social standing and shit

warm quartz
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Im expecting Dallas to release a meme video edited by seagull/xQc soon

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That'd be great

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Or even better

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xQc make a meme video about his c9 and post it

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Well

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"C9"

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Or even at the end of the season 2 videos

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"Best moments of Dallas Fuel"

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And "Bloopers of Dallas Fuel"

opal swift
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hell yeah, dallas fuel all the way

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it is de wae

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seagull's mai boi

wintry kraken
#

starting watching the games, but i LOL'd at crowd chanting "USA USA USA" for Fuel, and the caster reacting "You can't chant USA when the teams has only 1 american player" 😄

light hearth
#

Monte is pretty funny.

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I’m ready for more games

hearty wasp
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Why didnt they play Daddqd

vestal mortar
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I was thinking the same thing when I was watching.

wintry kraken
#

oh uhm, i think there is untapped market for Blizzard though - they forgot to add the "alternate skins" to buy (or did i miss it?)

hearty wasp
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I want to buy the white Sanfranshock

uncut moon
#

^

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When do they release the away skins

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SFShock DallasFuel away skins are hype

wintry kraken
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that is what i mean

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that is another $1.2k they can milk from OCD people 😄

uncut moon
#

I'm sure I read it somewhere on reddit

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that the away skins will release at a later date

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let me try

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to find it again

balmy wolf
#

did they announce which maps they are going to play today or nah?

magic zinc
#

Yep, maps are already up

wintry kraken
magic zinc
#

Click on Match Details

wintry kraken
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dorado, anubis, oasis, numbani

balmy wolf
#

thankss

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ugh I'm tired of anubis

tropic onyx
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@hearty wasp iddqd is sick apparently

jagged crater
#

are the maps going to be the same?

wintry kraken
#

@balmy wolf next up, blizzard will introduce 3CP 😄

jagged crater
#

cept oasis from the looks of it

magic zinc
#

Yeah a lot of players have been sick huh?

hearty wasp
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@tropic onyx ty honey

magic zinc
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I wonder if its a flu epidemic or players are just overworked

jagged crater
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a lot of them goto the same place to practice

tropic onyx
#

Good point

jagged crater
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the blizz arena offices

balmy wolf
#

9cp

uncut moon
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They should introduce a gametype like domination in unreal tournament 2k4 where you have to capture 2 points simultaneously to score 1 point

balmy wolf
#

So what was the results of the games?

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I missed them

magic zinc
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Results are there too

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(Don't click it if you wanna be spoiled)

silk linden
#

you can download the OWL app Snow

jagged crater
#

does the OWL app work?

magic zinc
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Yup

jagged crater
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thank u blizz

balmy wolf
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I did not know there was an app for ot

magic zinc
#

It has a Hide Spoiler option too, very nice

wintry kraken
#

i hate i can't get to match vods without seeing the result

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too late

balmy wolf
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I love the app

tropic onyx
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Check /r/overwatched @wintry kraken

magic zinc
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^Its great

uncut moon
#

nice there is gonna be some lunar on the second match

magic zinc
#

The only potential spoiler is video length

uncut moon
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and Eichenwalde

tropic onyx
#

That sub also adds dummy 5th games

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It's honestly great

uncut moon
#

How long does it normally take to get the 100 league tokens from adding your email address to the notifications on OWL site?

magic zinc
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Yeah thats my main drawing point to it

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They didn't have Seoul/Fuel up this morning though, I watched the entire Twitch vod instead so I couldn't get spoiled lol

jagged crater
#

man i want to see some king's row

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or hollywood, good old days good old maps

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but blizz wants to showcase the less popular maps

thorn forum
#

Is the time west coast

magic zinc
#

Is King's Row not in the map pool at all?

jagged crater
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it wasnt played at all in preseason

thorn forum
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On the schedule

jagged crater
#

someone said they're doing diff map pools for every stage?

magic zinc
#

That sounds pretty logical

jagged crater
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yea, less maps to practice for each week

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which is reasonable

wintry kraken
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the twitch chat LOL

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full of !coins 😄

thorn forum
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What is that.

wintry kraken
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nothing 😄

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people thought they get coins is my guess

thorn forum
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Lol

wintry kraken
#

i wonder if they would have noticed if someone typed !icons 😄

boreal mango
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starts off with soemone trolling, then others join in doing it because they don't wanna miss out in case it's real or something

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happens in every big stream

thorn forum
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Is the schedule western time

wintry kraken
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schedule is local time

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whatever your local time is

boreal mango
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I'm watching it at work lol

balmy wolf
#

Do they actually wear the owl skins in those games?

harsh cypress
#

Yo what are the numbers on the health bars of the players in the OWL?

wintry kraken
#

the percentages ?

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their ult charge

digital blade
#

What's the Seoul team called?

harsh cypress
#

no

thorn forum
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Ah ok cool thanks man

harsh cypress
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Not the ones at the top, the health bars above the players

thorn forum
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Dynasty

boreal mango
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@balmy wolf I believe they all use the default skins, and the casting tools forces the skins

wintry kraken
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hm... player numbresd ? 😄

harsh cypress
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Ohhh

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lmao

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nice

wintry kraken
#

like in sports

digital blade
#

What is Seouls name?

wintry kraken
#

dynasty

thorn forum
#

Dynasty

digital blade
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Ok

boreal mango
#

Gingers have no Seols

digital blade
#

Lol

thorn forum
#

Lmao

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You think XQC got tilted on numbani

uncut moon
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the dva ult onto the sleeping winston

magic zinc
#

I think all of Fuel had a dip after Anubis

uncut moon
#

xd

thorn forum
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Yea the dva ult followed with a pulse stick inside his bubble

magic zinc
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The D.va Ult especially

uncut moon
#

👌

magic zinc
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Like Zunba only had to throw it in his general direction

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But nah he throws it riiight onto xQc lol

uncut moon
#

yeah it landed perfectly

thorn forum
#

Was good play

jagged crater
#

seagull 100% winrate, xqc 0% winrate 🤔

fast pulsar
#

gg

balmy wolf
#

that series was the best Overwatch I've ever seen

#

Seoul vs Dallas

magic zinc
#

Have you seen USA vs Korea? That was up there too

balmy wolf
#

yeah of course

#

this was better IMO

magic zinc
#

Runaway vs Lunatic Hai final was great too imo

balmy wolf
#

ye

magic zinc
#

I miss Runaway :(

median sierra
#

i havent watched it yet

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should i start

magic zinc
#

Yeah and don't check this channel lol

balmy wolf
#

I have a link if you need it

magic zinc
#

People are quick to throw out spoilers

balmy wolf
#

yeah

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well

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it's used as a live chat at times

median sierra
#

mah idc about spoilers

#

i support london

magic zinc
#

/r/Overwatched is great imo

median sierra
#

thanks

magic zinc
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They even put up dummy 5th matches so you don't get spoiled by that

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The only spoiler you get for watching VODS is video length

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But I have yet to find out a way to circumvent that

balmy wolf
#

what's the deal with Seagull?

magic zinc
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Appearently he was ill?

balmy wolf
#

oh really?

magic zinc
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IDDQD too

balmy wolf
#

ok makes sense

magic zinc
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Makes you wonder if they just have the flu or if they're overworked

balmy wolf
#

well he streamed for awhile yesterday

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or the day before actually

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and said that he was really tired

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same with the team

toxic pasture
#

Hi

magic zinc
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In traditional sports there's a day off before the game usually, don't think eSports has that (yet)

balmy wolf
#

yeah

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I thought he played well in the beginning

magic zinc
#

Yeah he probably wasn't able to keep it up and asked to be subbed maybe?

balmy wolf
#

unsure. I don't think that XQC was prepared to step in

magic zinc
#

I think Seoul did really well to counter xQc's agressive Winston

balmy wolf
#

and he was focused like crazy

magic zinc
#

Was really cool to watch

balmy wolf
#

yes

#

exactly

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like the world was shitting on him

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but he was the target of almost every ult

magic zinc
#

I guess something was up with Cocco too then, I'd assume they switch him in after noticing that

jagged crater
#

cocco was sick

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everyone's sick!

wintry roost
#

Is there going to be any other matches that are this good in OWL stage 1?

balmy wolf
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IDK but the matches start again today at 2!

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so we'll see

magic zinc
#

NYXL vs Houston is a good one

balmy wolf
#

^^^^

#

agreed

tacit aspen
#

Valient vs Fuel Friday will be good

magic zinc
#

^Also that

jagged crater
#

valiant is proving to be a strong west team

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but they havent faced a top team yet

balmy wolf
#

yesss

wintry roost
#

I am expecting a 3-2 or a 3-1 in Fuels favour

balmy wolf
#

that Soon snipe was insane

jagged crater
#

preseason they faced shock and gladiators

balmy wolf
#

with the venom mine

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ugggggh

tacit aspen
#

Valient vs. Fuel will be good as fuck is my expectation. Valient was supposed to be a tier below fuel based on preseason and paper roster, but after last night I think Valient may give fuel trouble if Fuel plays like it did those last two maps

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If fuel plays like they did map 1&2 then I think they'll handle Valient easy. But I'm not sure that'll be the case. Should be a very telling matchup.

balmy wolf
jagged crater
#

spitfires vs mayhem 🤣

#

gonna be an interesting oen

balmy wolf
#

lol

jagged crater
#

spitfires got an easy week, vs mayhem and philly

#

spitfires vs mayhem 🤣

balmy wolf
#

I think Spitfires will win

wintry roost
#

Shanghai needs to get there shit together

solemn prism
magic zinc
#

oh my

balmy wolf
#

THATS LOUD AS FUCK

celest shell
#

SHD is team that failed to even make the finals in the last big Chinese tournament. They finished 7th/8th

magic zinc
#

Yeah there are some shady rumors around Shanghai...

celest shell
#

I mean wtf do you expect now that they are against the best in the world?

wintry roost
#

@solemn prism rich kids with there genji skins

solemn prism
#

@balmy wolf i have 2$ left in the bank i aint rich

celest shell
#

There is maybe 2 players on SHD that are OWL worthy. 3 if Lucio is meta again.

jagged crater
#

chinese corruption who knew

wintry roost
#

I ain’t got any money in the bank and wrong @ @solemn prism

jagged crater
#

400k viewers for day 1, not bad

wintry roost
#

Any really good players on philly

magic zinc
#

Carpe, Shadowburn

jagged crater
#

philly's in a rough spot because they had a lot less time together compared to other teams

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didnt even play the preseason

magic zinc
#

They also had the SADO situation

jagged crater
#

so we have no idea how they're gonna perform

magic zinc
#

Possible that affected the team at least a little bit

celest shell
#

Tough first matchup too

jagged crater
#

add that on top of a very very mixed nationality team, could be communication issues

#

which needs time to build

median sierra
#

whos your favourite too win

jagged crater
#

8 different nationalities, that's more diverse than dallas fuel

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9 if including snillo (who's inactive due to age atm)

celest shell
#

Houston 3-1

wintry roost
#

SADO situation?

jagged crater
#

dats how we do it in philly

magic zinc
#

SADO got suspended for 30 games for boosting accounts

#

I reckon that affects the team a little bit at least

median sierra
#

yh but its all about that team called fortnite bashers

jagged crater
#

carpe, shadowburn and boombox are philly's star players

#

if all 3 of them popoff, maybe MAYBE

#

but vs london, yea prob not

magic zinc
#

If the synergy isn't there they're going down 100%

jagged crater
#

london literally 2 top korean teams in one

#

how does a team with < 2 weeks time together even beat that

rare tangle
#

what if instead of being london it had been called the mexico city chiahuahua's and they were the mexico team

wintry roost
#

Yeah

jagged crater
#

but who knows stars align, weird unexpected stuff has happened in OW pro level

rare tangle
#

like doomfist disco dancing?

jagged crater
#

yes

wintry roost
#

D-doomfist disco dancing? What

#

Please what is this?

median sierra
#

im guessing its a jke

warm quartz
#

Oh shit dallas and seoul will be going head to head again on feb.28

hidden vault
#

Dallas will get owned by Seoul

magic zinc
#

Will they still be on the current patch then?

#

Or post-Mercy?

harsh cypress
#

Seoul new Optic when?

balmy wolf
#

i hear owl league is actually gud

#

is it

wintry roost
#

I am expecting a 3-1 victory for Houston today

#

Yes ofc it is @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
#

I see i think il check it out

wintry roost
#

@balmy wolf go watch the vod of Dallas fuel vs Seoul dynasty

warm quartz
#

The League is fun to have open even while playing OW

#

Its worth it also, for the tokens

wintry roost
#

How do you get tokens for the league?

magic zinc
#

You get 100 by logging into Overwatch before February... 8th(?)

#

You get another 100 by signing up to the e-mail alerts

#

Lemme find that for you

wintry roost
#

Yeah but how he was saying it was like you get them for watchin.

magic zinc
#

Nothing out for that yet

#

Just some vague wording on how there's plans for it

warm quartz
#

So if i sat through all those hours in playoverwatch for nothing last night lmao

#

Nah jk i actually wanted to see Fuel v Seoul

midnight turret
#

Who do you think is gonna win OWL matches today?

#

My Guesses are Spitfire (VS Mayhem), Outlaws (vs Fusion) and NYXL (vs Uprising)

magic zinc
#

Agreed

#

We know nothing about Fusion though that might be interesting

silk linden
#

ready for some more 4-0s today

#

I'm interestend is seeing if Outlaws are as dominant as people say, and if Uprising have improved as much as the people who scrimmed them say

#

though I can't see any upset happening

#

maybeee houston v philly and boston v NY won't be 4-0s, but I'm not sure

magic zinc
#

Outlaws could very well be dominant but Fusion is a pure wild card

#

That being said, it doesn't seem likely for Fusion to just overthrow Outlaws like that

silk linden
#

as Doa said, they are potentially the best team in the league zaryalol

magic zinc
#

That haven't dropped a map zaryalol

#

Hell, haven't dropped a single point

balmy wolf
#

dota two or league?

#

The thing about fusion is that they have pure raw skill

#

But that won’t help in a league like this

silk linden
#

I think basically every player in the league has amazing raw skill

#

it comes down to gamesense and coordination

#

ok so xQc just said that the roster changes during a series are submitted before the match, I didn't know that

#

so the coach can't change rosters on a whim based on performance

magic zinc
#

Oh that sounds... really weird?

#

Imagine that in a traditional sports thats really odd

silk linden
#

well, it makes sense that they don't improvise strats

#

like, the roster without seagull on Ilios was a comp they had practiced and strategized with

magic zinc
#

I'm sure they've scrimmed multiple options

#

Or even multiple people on the same role in a strat

#

And if not they can just choose not to switch

#

Just sounds really weird to me that that's determined beforehand

paper helm
#

@silk linden i always thought it would be like WWE.. "noooowwwww entering the arena it's SEEEAAAGGGUUULLLL"

#

he also said he can be asked to switch off or if his comms are tilted they can force him out

silk linden
#

yeah but, that seems like an extreme case

#

makes sense that they want to stick to a comp they practiced and planned as much as possible

magic zinc
#

@silk linden Did he mean that the team just decides for each map, or that OWL Management requires you to make your subs known pre-match

silk linden
#

both I guess

magic zinc
#

The first one makes sense, the second one I can't wrap my head around lol

#

am scrub NotLikeSoldier

silk linden
#

btw do we have any confirmation of people receving their 100 tokens email yet?

vestal mortar
#

Nupe

silk linden
#

I want my dallas skin...

paper helm
#

the admins/refs would need an idea of which players are switching on/off to ensure the smoothest transition, i assume that's why @magic zinc

silk linden
#

that's like super secret powerful info though

paper helm
#

yeah thats why only the admins would be allowed that info

silk linden
#

like, imagine if you knew beforehand if Spitfire were fielding Busan or Kongdoo on a ceratin map

paper helm
#

the teams wouldnt see it

magic zinc
#

That reduces the tactical impact imo

#

Like last night Seoul did really well to counter xQc's agressive Winston

#

And they're just tough out of luck at that point?

silk linden
#

the thing I noticed last night was, as soon as Fleta was out of commission, dallas won the push

#

like, always

#

also, Taimou should consider being a tank main full time zaryalol

#

ok no he did good on soldier and reaper

vestal mortar
#

Heh

magic zinc
#

Its okay, Harry can play Soldier and Effect can play Reaper

#

Taimou full time tank <3

silk linden
#

there's no justification for him playingWidowmaker on that team it seems like

magic zinc
#

He can be on the Widow when they need the added pressure from Effect's Tracer

silk linden
#

actually, you know what? Maybe Custa did better than Chips...

#

Mercy meta making me say heretic shit like this

paper helm
#

do we have an estimated date on the PTR coming to live servers? estimated to be a couple weeks after bliz world correcT?

magic zinc
#

I think they still want to tweak Mercy

#

Very possible it'll take 3 weeks or so, don't think they want to mess this one up

paper helm
#

yeah Jeff said they havent submitted the balance change patch to Xbox/playstation yet, but blizzard world has

#

so its after that at least

magic zinc
#

Yeah I kind of expect Blizzardworld next week

jagged crater
#

Chips won't shine as much with Ana out of the meta

coarse stream
#

He didnt even play that bad

jagged crater
#

Custa and Chips zen are pretty similar so cant say who's better

coarse stream
#

None of the Fuel played awfully.

jagged crater
#

it was more like Seoul adjusted better

coarse stream
#

They just got outplayed by Seoul.

#

Yeah like on Numbani

#

Fuel plays a comp that is very good at punishing people.

jagged crater
#

iddqd was right about the koreans vs west thing

coarse stream
#

But Seoul only went in when they had Pharah and Tracer damage

jagged crater
#

what seperates koreans and west was that koreans can adjust better on the fly

coarse stream
#

Thats just a seperation between the east and the west in general

#

The east is very good at that passive, analytical, adaptive form of play

jagged crater
#

cant say the same about China tho

coarse stream
#

Whereas the west is generally better at aggressive, fast play.

jagged crater
#

cant say the same about China tho

magic zinc
#

I think that's why the East has made huge jumps since APEX 1

paper helm
#

west are known to be better mechanically as well, in terms of raw aim due to FPS being more popular on that side of the world

#

not to say koreans are bad at aiming, some of those shots were godlike

magic zinc
#

I read an article a while ago on how Korean coaches would analyze Miro's Winston play, every single jump

jagged crater
#

that's what people said before apex

magic zinc
#

And apply that advice to their main tanks

jagged crater
#

that koreans are bad at fps

magic zinc
#

It worked; the other tanks have since caught up to Miro on Winston imo

paper helm
#

not necessarily bad, but not as good as the west you know

jagged crater
#

mechanically west and koreans are about equal

#

mechanically west and koreans are about equal
but west have more experience in FPS

coarse stream
#

tbh I dont feel like that holds true in OW

#

In CS for sure.

#

tbh I dont feel like that holds true in OW

#

In CS for sure.

#

But not so much in OW

jagged crater
#

mechanically west and koreans are about equal
but west have more experience in FPS

#

CS is just not popular in korea compared to OW

paper helm
#

with OW if a team performs badly you can't say it was because they had bad aim or missed shots, it could simply be becase their positioning or strats were better, so koreans get punished less for 'worse' aim because their knowledge of the game is immense

sinful isle
#

i just rewatched the GLA games and boi, the beauty of Shaz zenyatta

balmy wolf
#

CS is popular in russia

#

along with tf2

vestal mortar
#

I think that most importantly it shows how essential it is to move as a team with good comms. Some of the set up plays Seoul did on Anubis were incredible! I really liked how Dallas made adjustments to their appraches on Anubis too. That was just such a good map! AHHH

paper helm
#

where you from @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
#

@paper helm UK

vestal mortar
#

Already dying to see Dallas vs Seoul again.

paper helm
#

same, so you definitely know what its like to play CS with russians

warm quartz
#

Feb 28 tara

magic zinc
#

The Anubis map was probably my favorite Overwatch map ever so far

warm quartz
#

Im counting down the days

magic zinc
#

The Anubis map was probably my favorite Overwatch map ever so far

warm quartz
#

Im counting down the days

magic zinc
#

The Anubis map was probably my favorite Overwatch map ever so far

balmy wolf
#

I seen videos

magic zinc
#

South Korea VS Usa on Hanamura comes close, though

balmy wolf
#

rush b every time

vestal mortar
#

Ooooh that was so good too!

balmy wolf
#

and a swear word I assume

warm quartz
#

ARE YOU KIDDING

#

GUYS

#

STYOLSA JUST JOINED LONDON SPITFIRE

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K I L L M E

paper helm
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oh it's something, aside from the rush B thing they also tilt very easily and can turn from friendly to unbelievably toxic in milliseconds

tight vault
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@warm quartz wait wah

warm quartz
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TWITTER LOOK

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NOW

jagged crater
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we already know

warm quartz
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STYLOSA SPITFIRE CONFIRMED?

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LOL

vestal mortar
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He is not a player 😛

balmy wolf
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kek

jagged crater
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been known for like a month

magic zinc
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Its.... for a vlog I assume?

warm quartz
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Then why the fuck are they just posting it fuck you spitfire

tight vault
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well damn rip spitfire even more

vestal mortar
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Probably for the video/media stuff

magic zinc
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Roater was locked a while ago and lets be honest he'd at best be the guy that makes the tea during the break

warm quartz
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they literally just posted it all over twitter wtf

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Not even 3mins ago

jagged crater
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why you followin him

warm quartz
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Fuck you twitter

balmy wolf
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and stylosa already have been using spitfire as an alt account name

vestal mortar
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Yeah they have 12 players on the team. He is probably part of the staff.

warm quartz
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I dont someone retweeted it

magic zinc
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Its pretty obvious Clickbait?

tight vault
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stylosa hates me

jagged crater
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it looks so awkard in the video, the koreans are like hell yea we're british!

warm quartz
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If stylosa legit joined spitfire as a player...i feel bad for you londoners

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"Pip pip cheerio!"-Koreans about being on Spitfire

vestal mortar
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

paper helm
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being from UK i feel no sense of pride for london spitfire

magic zinc
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Literally impossible at this point but okay

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Roster was locked months ago and published

warm quartz
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I meant in general eagle

magic zinc
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Oh

warm quartz
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If he joined spitfire EVER as a player i would feel so bad for the londoners

magic zinc
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I can see him being a staff member part time

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If only to promote things

warm quartz
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He's the PR guy

jagged crater
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you got 2 really good korean teams for london, that's good enough

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it was weird tho

magic zinc
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They're not trying super hard to woo the European crowd imo

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Although I've heard they're trying really hard to learn English

warm quartz
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And then there's the US

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Look at out meme team of Dallas Fuel

magic zinc
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Dallas Fuel is a great piece of PR just by existing

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EnVyUs being the most popular western team

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Adding 2 extremely marketable players with huge followings

warm quartz
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Dallas fuel is mostly a meme team too lol

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Taimou and xQc proved that

magic zinc
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ALL THEY NEED IS HARBLEU

warm quartz
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NO

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THEY NEED CALVIN

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FOR MEEEEEEMES

magic zinc
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Calvin doesn't wanna go pro

warm quartz
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shhh

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Let me have my moment

jagged crater
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cant have a meme team without timthetatman

silk linden
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you have too many moments

warm quartz
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Truth

jagged crater
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and kephrii

silk linden
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most of them are shit

jagged crater
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calvin would be part of a stream team, not a meme team

magic zinc
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Hey that sums up my general OW play @silk linden

warm quartz
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Can we get the Chicago Angels with TimTheTatMan and all the other strimmers

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Lassiz, Kephrii, ect

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Animetic lmao

vestal mortar
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NO KEPHRII

tight vault
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the youtubers

magic zinc
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Australian Angels, its just streamers

jagged crater
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lul kephrii

warm quartz
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its literally a meme fucking team

vestal mortar
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🤢

warm quartz
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t-thats the point

jagged crater
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kephrii's meme team call the 250mgs of 8 inches

warm quartz
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They're the meme team

magic zinc
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@vestal mortar Put him in OWL! Widow scales with the team! He'll turn heads! We'll be surprised! He'll carry!!

vestal mortar
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Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

warm quartz
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Yeah!

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You right eagle!

magic zinc
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Can't believe he unironically said that lol

jagged crater
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kephrii + chipsa dps one tricks

warm quartz
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Yas

magic zinc
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About himself no less...

jagged crater
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with fuey500 and stevoo on support

warm quartz
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Yis

jagged crater
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fuey500 occasional rein ok

magic zinc
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Hey dont forget EeveeA

warm quartz
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Animetic tho

scarlet spear
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eh i bet chipsa has a lot more flexability than kephrii

warm quartz
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The really popular mercy onetrick

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ACTUALLY NO

magic zinc
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Chipsa is quite a good Genji

warm quartz
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GALE, KEPHRII, TIMTHETATMAN, CALVIN, ANIMETIC, AND LASSIZ

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EAASY DONE

magic zinc
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You see this will never happen because

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Gale isn't old enough

warm quartz
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"The Oregon One-Tricks."

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Neither is Flow3r

magic zinc
warm quartz
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But he's inactive on NYXL's roster

magic zinc
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Right but they still need a starting 6

jagged crater
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whatever it is, dont lump wraxu in that group

warm quartz
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Fuckin uh eeveea lmao

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Two mercy mains

jagged crater
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he too chill for them

magic zinc
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Wraxu is too flexible to be in that group

jagged crater
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even pros compliment wraxu for being an insane hanzo

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like wraxu is prob the best one trick for his hero

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better than kephrii on widow (compared to other widows)

magic zinc
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I'd say Chipsa is up there also

jagged crater
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if wraxu were to one trick

magic zinc
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Kephrii regularly gets out-Widowed but blames it on hacks...

warm quartz
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Zerg

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Point and case

silk linden
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chipsa's thing is, I don't think he would enjoy the pro life

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hell, he was gonna quit OW before Doomfist came out

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he just found his niche and he likes it there

jagged crater
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good thing doomfist came out!

silk linden
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just like some players would be much better off as streamers, money wise, but they just want to play pro

jagged crater
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you can already see it in the eyes of xqc that he wants to be a streamer more than he wants to be a pro

silk linden
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I don't think so

jagged crater
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pro is not for everyone, it's a lot more stressful

silk linden
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people make too many assumptions about xQc tbh

jagged crater
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xqc wants to be both, but there's just no time for that

magic zinc
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I think he's still very much inbetween, its breaking him up a little bit

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But we can't assume things

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Yeah he wants to do both full-time it seems

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Admirable, but a little destructive probably

jagged crater
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stream 10 hours a day + scrim 6 hours a day,that's just asking for burnout

silk linden
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I mean, he's hardly the only player who spends most of his time playing even when not in practice

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it's just how some people like to spend their time

jagged crater
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but he's plays a fuckton

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that's the diff

magic zinc
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Well his type of stream doesn't lend himself to winding down

silk linden
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I guess they will force him to do other things once they get a team house

jagged crater
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think he's the highest level player in OWL too

silk linden
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like Valiant, who seem to have all their daily life planned out by their org

jagged crater
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in terms of one account

silk linden
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koreans don't play on ladder?

magic zinc
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Thats because he hasn't always been a pro and scrims don't give levels I think

paper helm
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he has passion for the game i personally hope it lasts, he def needs to chill sometime to not get burnt out

silk linden
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oh level, not SR

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yeah, makes sense

magic zinc
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Does the broadcast start in 30 minutes already or?

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Still 90 minutes?

silk linden
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1 hour and 30 min, isn't it?

magic zinc
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Well thats when the match starts

jagged crater
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whatever says on the website

silk linden
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or are you asking if there's a preshow

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there wasn't yesterday

magic zinc
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I assume there's a pre-show, maybe a recap of last night

mild geode
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who do you guys think is going to win?

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I didn't watch preseason

silk linden
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london houston NY

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easy predictions

tight vault
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seoul

silk linden
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tonight I mean

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overall seoul

mild geode
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fuel did really good last night

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but it wasn't enough