they only got 2 right now, even though we all know asia is the hotbed of OW talent
#esports-discussion
jade remnant
does anybody else not like the Jack in the box logo placement on the Fuel jersey?
its so big
forest raven
Oh it's obnoxious
idle kiln
not a single team in like finland or sweden
forest raven
But they've turned it into a joke
lavish lance
Where is the NK team at 🤔
zealous venture
@wicked tulip well I hate it
vernal obsidian
When I think to myself of pursing professional esports, I think to myself that most of the peeps in it are single and then I stop thinking about it
wicked tulip
as long as you're not getting those real life victories, you'll project that need onto your gaming habit
runic stag
The problem with more teams is how long matches are
idle beacon
about dallas .. and their weird choices .. i like that dallas is using unusual strats .. but they only work if everyone of the team plays for his team .. i still dont understand taimou being widow ..
runic stag
look how much OWL we're getting now with just this many teams
jade remnant
i didnt understand the torb pick
vernal obsidian
Taimou was being cocky
idle kiln
cause if they dont have a pharah its very hard for a dive comp to deal with
vernal obsidian
that's it
slim summit
we're getting toooo much OWL now
runic stag
Maybe split OWL into an East and West channel
slim summit
i probably won't watch tomorrow because disliking xQc gets you banned
idle kiln
no one really
slim summit
but even if i did watch tomorrow
vernal obsidian
If he was serious, he would have stuck with McCree all the way through Illios
zealous venture
@idle beacon idk what else to think of, I hate money and I am bad at it. I do have SSI (social security) because I am mentally disabled. And I hate my life some what. So I get mad all the time
idle beacon
ye but still, taimou on widow .. the whole time, instead of rethinking it
runic stag
aw @slim summit and you were doing so well
slim summit
it's 4 days a week, 5/6 weeks until june
idle kiln
yeah taimou was a bit stubborn i agree
runic stag
its insane
lavish lance
No lifes
slim summit
it's so many matches
jade remnant
its like a football sunday
idle beacon
does dallas only hav xQc as a decent tank? seriously now??
idle kiln
for months?
forest raven
My viewing is gonna severely dip once uni starts lol
wicked tulip
it's just these 12 teams for 5-6 weeks?
vernal obsidian
Yes
idle kiln
wtf
idle beacon
@zealous venture aaaahhh .. now i understand your situation .. how old is u?
slim summit
xQc is facing Seoul again 3 more times this season at least, probably more
idle kiln
RIP shanghai holy shit
forest raven
Each team plays twice a week
slim summit
*dallas
runic stag
The problem is that OWL is actually TOO streamlined.
idle kiln
i sincerely hope they improve somehow
zealous venture
@idle beacon 20
wicked tulip
yeah, i probably won't be watching this again then, that's too much investment
idle kiln
cause i do not want to see them get shit on for months in a row
wicked tulip
i just happened to be home doing nothing all day
slim summit
is 6 hours a day too streamlined?
vernal obsidian
Truth be told, I would not be rooting for Dallas if it didn't have seagull nor the color blue entirely as the team color.
runic stag
people can follow sports teams because channels pick up rights for different teams and different games so people can tune in when their team is on
idle beacon
will there be a rematch of dallas vs seoul?
slim summit
if every player is divided equally between matches
that's only 30k per match
nobody watches every hockey game but more than 30k per match
forest raven
Dallas and Seoul won't play each other until stage 2
jade remnant
@idle kiln some people do if they have fantasy teams
slim summit
i should say *matchup
idle kiln
if you can get 30k viewership constantly throughout the day
slim summit
instead of match
idle beacon
@zealous venture well .. don't get so pissed off too often .. maybe smoke some greens .. . to get more chilled and stuff
slim summit
for clarity
vernal obsidian
You're supposed to watch it until you feel confident that you've gained enough game sense, go into comp and then realize you still suck 
idle kiln
thats incredible
zealous venture
@idle beacon I can’t afford weed.
idle kiln
CSGO has some of the highest viewership and they barely break like 30-50k on their smaller weekly tournies
idle beacon
@zealous venture where do you live?
glacial sleet
https://clips.twitch.tv/DreamySneakyRadishFunRun proof that sd just likes to bully xqc
vernal obsidian
CSGO is very elitist. That's why.
slim summit
based off projections
idle kiln
i mean, 320k today
slim summit
we really don't know yet so don't quote me
jade remnant
that sleep dva ult was dirty
idle kiln
im feeling maybe 15k constant viewership
slim summit
but today's matches are just as important as every match for the next 5 weeks
idle kiln
this actually brings up another fear actually
idle kiln
will OWL kill OW streaming?
slim summit
and even then there's only 2 important matches every 5 weeks until june
idle kiln
since you can access extremely high quality professional live OW every day easily
idle beacon
@glacial sleet ye as we said earlier .. if xQc got tilted off of that so easily .. then he should reconsider playin in such intense matches. ..
runic stag
Having the three matches a day be streamed one after another on the same channel, i don't know how people won't get burned out
slim summit
You're getting awfully defensive about xqc @idle beacon
idle kiln
its definitely gonna steal a ton of views from people like Calvin and TimtheTatman
idle beacon
i am getting what, @slim summit ?
idle kiln
and smaller streams too
jade remnant
lol easymac with the hipocracy
vernal obsidian
I don't know why Calvin and Kephrii were streaming during OWL. Neither got more than 800 viewers during it.
versed sinew
calvin always streams
jade remnant
because they wanted to
runic stag
I saw Tim streaming he looked like he had plenty of viewers
versed sinew
so does kephrii
jade remnant
¯_(ツ)_/¯
runic stag
but thats Tim though
idle kiln
yeah theyll still get viewers, but what about the long run
vernal obsidian
Tim has a bunch of viewership outside of OW
idle kiln
cause its not like OWL stole viewers from like, CSGO or LoL
and the uptick was just internal blizz advertizing
so im wondering if theres enough views to go around
runic stag
OWL will finally give Time the freedom to become a full time UNO streamer
jade remnant
actually i used ./shrug
slim summit
i have to imagine that the primary inflationary aspect to OWL viewership will be OWL tokens
vernal obsidian
Tim is more a personality than an elite OW player
wicked tulip
they just need to get people invested like any other sport
slim summit
4-0 matches probably aren't a good start
wicked tulip
spend money on an ingame skin, buy a shirt, develop some pride and loyalty for my team
runic stag
for sure, only a matter of time before all those fancy overlays on the stage are replaced with advertisments
slim summit
But tomorrow's matches will probably be 4-0, ?-?, 0-4
idle kiln
i dont mind, i feel like advertisements make it feel more legit
slim summit
, ???,, 
idle kiln
like how theres ads on the side of stadiums
zealous venture
(Vermont) (and fuck therapy, never done it but it’ll make me vulnerable and sad and more mad ) Either way, I am going to cry myself to sleep again. I am mad, I am jealous, I am a salty asshole who hates Korea for being stereotypically smart at videos games and beating my team in Overwatch and winning the World Cup. They’re not fair and are robots. I’m just so fed up with this bullshit from the community of a game I loved and it’s making me not having any fun anymore. But it’s the only game I have, because I run in a laptop and is broke. With personal issues with my mental disabling, I hate my life and it’s making me mad at everyone and anything. So goodnight assholes and see you tomorrow. Because my team is playing tomarrow (Boston) and they suck ass, kind of like me and my life! @idle beacon @wicked tulip
wicked tulip
i watched the first sf vs la match and while la went 4-0, some of the matches were tight and still exciting to watch
slim summit
IDK who will win between Fusion and Outlaws
runic stag
exactly
idle kiln
as long as its tasteful and theyre not manipulating the stream for the purpose of ads
cough cough twitch yugioh streams
wicked tulip
@zealous venture don't knock therapy. i've struggled with mental illness and after finally swallowing my pride, seeing a therapist was one of the best decisions i've ever made
wicked tulip
the 0-4 4-0 thing isn't something i'd worry too much about
vernal obsidian
@zealous venture you don't like a team being successful for a long time, I get that. I feel the same way but you gotta understand the ungodly amount of time that SK invests in any video game. They breathe this shet
they live for nothing else in all honesty
idle kiln
How does contenders work again?
like does the top team get a spot in OWL?
cause its not like they bought a city spot like everyone else
idle beacon
@zealous venture there are also other nations being freakin ace in gaming
and don't didge ur therapist .. let them help ya, dude
forest raven
OWL isn't a promotion/relegation league @idle kiln
idle kiln
oh ok
forest raven
To get into OWL an org that owns a spot has to make the decision to sign you
vernal obsidian
Seagull puts the OW in OWL
idle kiln
so contenders is like AA league
vernal obsidian
Whoooooo
forest raven
Yeah
idle kiln
where you hope to get hired
forest raven
Contenders is the minor league
wicked tulip
they are effectively franchises
forest raven
And has a promotion/relegation system with Open Division
zealous venture
I don’t want help, I don’t trust people in that shit. Ok!?! I am just angry and scared. Besides if I ever wanted a therapist, I want one that’s a gammer nerd, not some old person who is not new to the new age. And I don’t want korea to keep winning and I blame them and all of us for believing. I’m just so fed up with all this!! @vernal obsidian @wicked tulip @idle beacon
:’(
idle beacon
dudee
vernal obsidian
Maybe someday we'll see a real life d.va in OW in a good team. Gegury is the closest one to the title but she can't find a good team yet.
wicked tulip
¯_(ツ)_/¯
idle kiln
no girls in OWL lol
severe helm
idle kiln
feels bad
jade remnant
Soe is my waifu
idle kiln
has geguri ever considered trying?
vernal obsidian
She tried APEX
idle kiln
i know shes god an amazing tank play
vernal obsidian
Her team lost in qualifiers
idle kiln
rip
vernal obsidian
but she was trying to carry real hard
zealous venture
....
idle beacon
real life dva .. i still don't get it
vernal obsidian
@idle beacon as in a extraordinarily good female video game player in Overwatch
idle kiln
Bastion has a 100% win rate in OWL. Just saying.
idle beacon
@vernal obsidian what about this one chick .. zarya main .. which got accused cheating tons of times
zealous venture
I am going to bed guys... seeyea
vernal obsidian
Gegury is so good that she was accused of hacking by some professional SK players but she was just that good
zealous venture
...
vernal obsidian
Night
idle kiln
pretty sure thats geguri lmao
vernal obsidian
and it's the same girl
vernal obsidian
Yes
idle beacon
and teams refuse to add her ?
idle kiln
zarya is niche pick right now
vernal obsidian
Idk but she got added in to one team and the team couldn't pull it together
vernal obsidian
she was doing her best.
idle kiln
like why take her when you can get people like AJAX
idle beacon
unproven in like what?
idle kiln
top level tournaments
idle beacon
who is ajax?
idle kiln
guy
idle beacon
we're talkin about a female being in a top team
idle kiln
i hope to see geguri in contenders tho
kindred brook
And like a couple of Koreans
slim summit
France OWL girl was pretty good last year
idle beacon
@kindred brook
slim summit
Err OWWC
idle beacon
not rikerd
slim summit
sorry
rare tangle
girls don't play video games much
kindred brook
Cos you can watch them play?
rare tangle
apparently
idle kiln
basically you dont want to throw some guy whos never competed in high level tournies into the highest level tournament in the world
theyre going to collapse under pressure
kindred brook
And see for yourself
vernal obsidian
there is no girl gamer in overwatch on the map except for gegury I hope she stays. Girls need more inspiration in OW aside from DVa
idle beacon
yea there was this french chick
idle kiln
its part of the reason why korea is so dominant, theyre like constantly playing at this level
kindred brook
Doesn't mean much, just played poorly
idle beacon
but can't remember if she was good
jade remnant
he tilted after that sleep and dva bomb
kindred brook
The French girl was male born though if that makes any difference
idle kiln
Dallas vs Seoul, Anubus 2nd game
sullen berry
Overwatch League Skins @balmy wolf
idle kiln
MUST WATCH game of the day
kindred brook
vernal obsidian
What I also like is the South Korean movement to.promotr female gamers in the country with DVa as the mascot
kindred brook
Ye Anubis was amazing
idle beacon
@kindred brook lol whut?
kindred brook
She's transgender I meant
idle kiln
wait the french girl was transgender?
kindred brook
Yea pretty sure she's openly transgender
idle beacon
where do you know that from?
vernal obsidian
TFW female gamer is half female so... Close enough?
idle beacon
damn seeing a damn food commercial, now im hungry -.-
kindred brook
Might even be on her liquipedia page
idle kiln
i feel like the opposite
i swear there was a bunch of "hot grill gamer" comments on twitch chat
slim summit
Half female?
idle beacon
boobs n dick
jade remnant
lol
vernal obsidian
I feel bad that a girl can't get into the pro scene if she's at least somewhat attractive without peeps bullying.
kindred brook
Googled it
She's trans it seems
Regardless, it's a bad mentality to have that there's no girls in the scene so the scene must be sexist
If the scene is sexist the solution is equal opportunity
Not fulfilling a quota
idle kiln
i mean, 50% of the players are overweight, neckbeards, or have 0 gains and self maintenance
pearl cedar
really o.o
idle kiln
more tbh
idle beacon
@kindred brook u sure she was in team france?
vernal obsidian
there are girls there but they're not known about or die out due to ridicule
pearl cedar
i hate that stereotype, mostly cause i dont fall into it xD
idle kiln
not surprising why people get all sexist when a girl who actually takes care of her appearance starts playing
i bet you
if a hot male model started playing
he'd be ridiculed too
pearl cedar
what for? o.o
idle beacon
ridiculed ???
idle kiln
like chat spam and shit
kindred brook
I mean
kindred brook
Plenty of the people I know in ow are girls
There's a bunch of girls in my region like 4k+ players
idle beacon
i wouldn't really care about geeks & nerds talkin shit becuz of jeaoulusy
vernal obsidian
but are they in the pro scene or top 10 streamers?
kindred brook
There's really bad harassment in mm and general play
idle kiln
but its the same concept as why xqc tilts
kindred brook
But I don't think there's much in the pro scene
kindred brook
If you're a girl you have an advantage if anything on twitch
idle kiln
day in, day out they try to play serously
but they get harassed for everything they do
carmine pumice
What Heros were not used in the games today?
idle kiln
over time it wears on you
idle beacon
i've been on lan tournaments .. and the 'heroes' .. were so small of a sudden, in reallife .. so .. i couldn't careless about shit like that
kindred brook
So many girls with terrible gameplay who are terrible entertainers who get viewers cos they are women on twitch
vernal obsidian
I wouldn't call it an advantage. Girls get attention fast due to just being girls and then guys start demeaning them to go away
kindred brook
Twitch is one of the few places in gaming where women have any advantage instead of a massive disadvantage
worn falcon
No Moira
idle kiln
no she was played
kindred brook
You're right they still get harassed
kindred brook
But they make bank of it and exploit it on purpose
idle beacon
@kindred brook actually i know / play with females which are really good .. and aren't uglo
@worn falcon there was a moira
kindred brook
Ye dragons ran moira quad tank
worn falcon
Huh, I don't saw Moira on Shangai, maybe was so fast
vernal obsidian
But the psychological torment is sometimes too much
kindred brook
I mean
vernal obsidian
:/
viral bronze
xqc kept die
idle beacon
can we get rid of this xQc shit ?
idle kiln
sure
idle beacon
like .. he plays @ owl .. you ain't
idle kiln
lets use tyler1 instead
idle beacon
true
idle kiln
ur chat is not ur friend
idle beacon
LIAR! @idle kiln
idle kiln
its more like the devil on ur shoulder that will tear u down at any moment or stroke ur ego the next
vernal obsidian
in all honesty, xqc hit rock bottom when he got banned on stream. The dude started to demean himself. I feel he should definitely try variety.
idle kiln
if u fall for it it can be vicious and destroy you
vernal obsidian
And I mean that in a good way
idle beacon
he got banned while streamin?
vernal obsidian
Moon does it
idle beacon
what?
vernal obsidian
Yes
idle beacon
what for?
vernal obsidian
Look it up
idle kiln
thats why people like seagull, moon and stuff are so cool
they put up with this shit
but theyre also positive so the trolls tend to leave to otehr streams like tyler1
vernal obsidian
seagull is too loveable to hate tho
idle kiln
when you have a "toxic" stream, it only gets more toxic
idle kiln
deadly positive feedback loop
pearl cedar
i think most pro players do
azure harbor
Seagull sub btw Moon2SPY
pearl cedar
i remember grim reality streamed for 80 viewers
and he got stream sniped
that was pretty depressing
vernal obsidian
Seagull doesn't get agitated, at most he gets sad.
carmine pumice
I wonder if the OWL will have the new patch that changes Mercy or will they stay on a seperate patch for the season?
idle beacon
seagull seems to be very native
idle kiln
theres this guy who plays OW whos really good
name starts with an E
hes NA or EU
and he gets streamsniped every game
kindred brook
Ed Sheeran
vernal obsidian
Emongg?
jade remnant
Eee?
idle beacon
ediot?
kindred brook
Ya emongg is cool
idle kiln
that guy must have fucking skin made of carbon steel
kindred brook
Very high PMA levels
azure harbor
So, how was OWL? Games? UI? Commentators?
kindred brook
Bunch of reasons
vernal obsidian
Seagull, Emongg and Moon keep me watching OW on twitch
idle beacon
and @kindred brook .. in what team did this tgirl play again?
kindred brook
He got banned for reporting people who were throwing his games once
Cos he was swearing in his reports and whatnot
Which girl
kindred brook
French girl or the Korean girl?
slim summit
because false reporting
idle beacon
french girl
kindred brook
He's also gotten banned for throwing himself
kindred brook
False reporting?
solar trout
false reporting is a dumb thing to punish someone for
kindred brook
Don't think that's true is it
He was just spam reporting
And just spamming swear words in the reports
But he was reporting people who needed to be reported afaik
idle beacon
haha
slim summit
Was the Sym cheating?
idle kiln
theyre the face of twitch
kindred brook
Was throwing his games
idle beacon
what sym ?
idle kiln
its unfair but they should be held to higher standards
slim summit
But not cheating?
idle beacon
and yes @kindred brook .. the french chick
kindred brook
What difference does that make
idle kiln
because their actions will compound through others
vernal obsidian
Will we ever see symmetra in OWL? 
kindred brook
French chick played for team France
slim summit
The difference is in the report descriptions
idle beacon
2016 or 2017 ?
carmine pumice
Anyone know what headphones the OWL uses, or are those brought in by the team like their keyboard and mouse... at least i think they bring their own
slim summit
Pls read so you don't accidentally false report too
idle beacon
she isnt on the ligui wiki page
idle kiln
they bring own kb and mouse or whatever their personal sponsor gives em
idle kiln
were they?
i feel like thats incredibly unfair
at their level a tiny shift in key distance can completely ruin their game
idle beacon
it looked like they all had the same
vernal obsidian
Imagine how much symmetra would be played if turret count dropped but their health goes up to like 150 each
kindred brook
2016
vernal obsidian
I know my biology and that is a guy face structure
kindred brook
Doesn't really matter lol
idle beacon
then again .. maybe france haven't had any better players
idle kiln
standardized equips
wait
no
taimou is using a razer and mickie is using a logitech
4:42:19
headphones are standardized tho
im assuming its for the noise cancelling
idle beacon
Boston, owned by Robert Kraft, Chairman and CEO of the Kraft Group, owners of the American Football team the New England Patriots.
vernal obsidian
just so they can't hear the casters
idle beacon
WHAT THE ACTUAL F*CK
idle kiln
yeah
vernal obsidian
LUL
idle kiln
who do you think coughs up 20mil for a videogame lol
carmine pumice
I just wonder if those headphones are 7.1
vernal obsidian
PASTA IS IN OW CONFIRMED
carmine pumice
or stereo
kindred brook
It's not even 20 mil upfront
carmine pumice
and they use the Dolby atmos audio tec
kindred brook
Don't think so anyway
hidden vault
seriously this is stupid who the hell buys 400 and 900 overwatch league tokens for 4 and 9 suits
idle beacon
Dallas, owned by Mike Rufail, Owner and CEO of Team EnVyUs, the spot is also co-owned by nV investor Hersh Interactive.
idle kiln
people like me with irresponsible spending habits
idle kiln
dunno why people are hating on it lol
dota2's been doing it for years
and guess which game has a prize pool of 16 million dollars
hidden vault
seriously this is stupid who the hell buys 400 and 900 overwatch league tokens for 4 and 9 suits
they have 1 and 26 suits which make sense
but where the hell is 12? where I can buy 1 for my main from each team
idle kiln
dota 2
hidden vault
bloody bilzzard
idle kiln
if done well it can be incredibly profitable for the players and for the company
its a win win
if you win the annual TI tourney for dota, you walk away with +1.5 million
forest raven
Blizz wanted billion dollar companies to invest in their league and they accomplished that
idle beacon
how blizz is doing it, it surely is a win-win
vernal obsidian
they're just recolors. You don't NEEED the colors man. Don't give in. @idle kiln
idle beacon
what?
vernal obsidian
Oops
vernal obsidian
wrong mention
idle beacon
i don't even understand nicetoeat's question 😃
forest raven
Blizz is not only furthering Overwatch's popularity and their revenue from game sales and lootboxes, they're also getting billion dollar companies and entire industries to invest in esports
Massive long term profit
gleaming hedge
I think he wants a 1200 token option so he can buy every team's skin for his main
forest raven
Yeah
idle beacon
i only got me 1 skin .. i don't even like all skins .. most of'm look crap
vernal obsidian
By the time OW2 comes out, I will already be dead
slim summit
Only what? 4 or 5 are owned by billion dollar companies?
slim summit
6 are owned by existing esports teams
idle kiln
more money = bigger rosters and better players
idle beacon
i mean .. then again .. there are teams playin for companies .. a german football team has it's own esports divison already .. also ac roma
idle kiln
same as basketball, football, and every other sport
theres a reason why the same teams make it to playoffs every season
idle beacon
my last stop in esports was as a coach .. for a speedlink team
idle kiln
im just wondering if blizzard is going to purposely try to avoid that progression or not
idle beacon
Faze clan had an OW team ?
carmine pumice
@idle beacon Get ready for the 360 Widow quick scope montages
hidden vault
@idle beacon you can purchase either 100 200 400 900 or 2600 league tokens. Which gives you 1 2 4 9 and 26 skins each. 1 and 26 makes sense which you might need to purchase 1 more skin or all 26 skins from a team you support. Purchasing 2 more skins maybe? But purchasing 4 and 9 skins doesn't really make sense. Also they failed to inculde 1200 tokens for all to purchase all 12 skins for the same character for all the existing teams.
This is what i'm lamenting about, about not being able to purchase all skins from each team for my main
forest raven
Yeah they did @idle beacon
Joe and Shadowburn are on Philly
Rawkus is on Outlaws
Spree too
Carpe is on Philly as well
And FaZe still owns a spot in Contenders
hidden vault
@gleaming hedge and yes you got it
idle beacon
@coral terracetoEat#9703 well it's blizz marketing strat 😃 ..
hidden vault
opps wrong tag
idle beacon
@carmine pumice get ready for what ???
hidden vault
too bad then i'm not buying:D
tawdry acorn
forest raven
Fan vote
kindred brook
xqc is not bad
idle beacon
never said he'd suck
was just surprised about the t-mobile mvp vote 😃
he just had a short performance issue
balmy wolf
I am too busy to watch the league live, is there a way to see highlights from the matches?
gaunt acorn
!tmobilemvp xQc
forest raven
sullen berry
👏
hidden vault
Also have anyone realised that puchasing 4 skins is more expensive then 2 skins and 2 skins is more expensive then 1 skin?
They are 19.99 USD 9.99USD and 4.99USD
idle beacon
🤔
as i wrote before .. blizzard money strats 😃
same with WoW
1 month 13$ ... 3 months 25$ or something
or the lootboxes
@forest raven
what happened to GODS ?
cinder plover
idle beacon
oh wow, seagull gettin sponsored by razer 😃
azure harbor
he's 10k streamer, so yea
fresh arrow
Logitech > razer
azure harbor
money > no money. I won't buy anything coz any streamer using it, but more money for them - good anyway
spring lintel
I want the league to have teams like DF and SD
And not dragons
Blizzard needs to talk to owners and tell them to fire all of dragon’s players
ALL
Not a single one can be kept
azure harbor
idle beacon
what?
spring lintel
Shanghai Dragons need new players
spring lintel
I thought china had some lose face stuff
If so we should see changes
Cause this is just incredibly bad, not even top5 contenders
gaunt acorn
MY got robbed
viral igloo
wait what london spitfire is coming up now?
gaunt acorn
@viral igloo they play in a little under 14 hrs
viral igloo
oh what game is about to happen on twitch
gaunt acorn
reruns
viral igloo
ohhh ty
gaunt acorn
london vs florida don't play until 2:00 PM Pacific
idle beacon
my got robbed .. what @gaunt acorn ??
rare tangle
gotta have go through the contenders(sort of like overwatch minors i think)and even then you probably won't get in unless someone really likes you
mild geode
basically you either have to be really famous like seagull or just really good
rare tangle
basically
rare tangle
you gotta be really famous or just so damn good that team owners are willing to sign you
rare tangle
because their pool of players wasn't that great
honestly watching the OWL just reminds you that what you are playing(no matter what rank)is shit tier and nothing you ever do will compare to what these teams do
gaunt acorn
@idle beacon Miraculous Youngster were way better than the current Shanghai roster
they were shafted by nepotism
and now they've disbanded too
mild geode
I feel like right now that if I played more comp I'd sit at mid diamond for a while
I don't play enough tho
and eventually some day get to masters and so on
rare tangle
honestly at this point anything beyond gold is unlikey for me
teams just tilt too often and flip their shit
mild geode
I placed high plat last season and I only played a few games after that
in the first 3 seasons I was silver
so I know that you can climb
rare tangle
but sometimes sometimes i can see the pro's doing something so stupid and so idiotic that even i cold have planned it better
mild geode
but you have to be patienet
rare tangle
like i saw one major mistake on the fuels part during their game with the dynasty
rare tangle
that mistake was if your gonna play torbjorn on numbani defense either have a reinhardt or orisa backing up the turret otherwise that shit won't last
and out of all maps i think numbani is the one(well numbani and hanamura)where a turret of some kind is needed otherwise that point is going bye bye fast
mild geode
it helps a lot to have a torb but I've held that point without a torb and won plenty of times
rare tangle
still though it's better to go torb than to go without and realize you gotta walk far too damn far once that point is lost
i just think sometimes the teams need to realize going all in offensive power isn't gonna work on all defensive maps
but i guess most pro's either don't think reinhardt's good enough to use most of the time or they just want to use dive tanks exclusively because "get to the point faster and nothing more"
idle beacon
@gaunt acorn .. that's bad, man 😦
@rare tangle yea that was some weird thought they've had .. torb without a shield tank
dunno what they were thinkin
rare tangle
like I'm not the best player but something tells me some of these players have gigantic ego's and think they can just play the same way no matter if it's attack or defense so adjusting isn't really in their mind
idle beacon
nah i think they wanted to pick a non-meta setup
rare tangle
well that's stupid
idle beacon
not really
rare tangle
when you aren't even winning why go for an off meta?
idle beacon
you don't have to go monkey/dva/soldier/zen/mercy/mccree .. there's so many options .. i think dallas are trying to play differently, so that other teams can't easily adapt
or can't easily play the usual OW meta crap
as i said, i dont know what that torb crap was about
the same goes for taimou going widow .. and staying widow instead of switchin to cree
like .. yea, dallas had some unnessecary flaws .. 1-2 loss ..they could've also won it .. with less mistakes
rare tangle
well whatever happened the dynasty adapted to the crap factor being thrown at them
idle beacon
on the last map, ye
but see it like this .. OW and its meta is like .. every pro team knows to a certain lvl how their enemy will stand and play .. if they stick to a meta
rare tangle
even before the last match there were signs of the fuel cracking
idle beacon
having different strats .. is where enemies need to rethink or lose
how do you mean
fuel cracking?
rare tangle
it's not important but what i will say is that it was better than what the other matches apparently turned out to be
having two straight blow outs before the last match probably didn't do the OWL's first day any favors in terms of excitement
orchid wyvern
Who won on Dallas Fuel vs Seoul Dynasty?
forest raven
Dynasty
coarse stream
Seoul did
forest raven
2-1
coarse stream
I wish they just played best of 3 or best of 5 maps
rather than just playing 4 maps
mild geode
is sinatraa the only pro with a 150k contract?
orchid wyvern
Ah thanks 🙏
coarse stream
IDK how to feel about the format tbh
I dont see any upsides to just playing 4 maps
idle beacon
@rare tangle the only crack i saw was that jump-off of the tank
spring lintel
@mild geode unkown but there are more expensive players out there probably
idle beacon
@coarse stream it's a new league .. going 4 months .. 4 stages .. so why not also another map system?
coarse stream
Because there are other systems like best of 3 or best of 5 that make more sense
spring lintel
They should let team choose maps
mild geode
it's crazy that a 17 year old kid is able to make that much by playing ow
coarse stream
wait teams dont get to choose maps either???
forest raven
Predetermined by Blizz
spring lintel
If we can get 12 teams like SD and DF in this league, it would be insane
coarse stream
Thats pretty stupid tbh
spring lintel
Yeah but they probably want people to focus on certain maps
And play different comps
forest raven
Blizz banned the draft system around the time of the 2016 world cup
coarse stream
Why?
forest raven
They want all map types to be played
coarse stream
Why force the players to play awful maps and modes
Seems anti-competitive to do that but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
forest raven
¯_(ツ)_/¯
spring lintel
Cause illios and 2cp maps are not popular
coarse stream
yeah 2cp is just a bad mode.
feral solar
its similar in cs though just cause valve doesnt pick what maps you play doesnt mean people dont have to play bad maps
spring lintel
illios would never see pro play ever if they gave teams the choice
feral solar
i think its cool cause we get to see different stuff
or it would just be kings row over and over
coarse stream
There arent any bad maps in the cs map pool for majors.
feral solar
nuke
coarse stream
Ok so there is one alright map
Like its not bad
I dont see why Blizz wants us to play bad maps, rather than the maps the community wants to play
forest raven
Because they want all their modes to be played
forest raven
By controlling the map pool they can feature every mode and map in the game
For OWL each stage has a unique map pool
So the teams don't need to practice every map from the start
coarse stream
But they do though.
forest raven
They can focus on some for a month, then some the next month etc.
coarse stream
What is the map pool for this one? Im not too up on ow esports cuz lets be frank its been pretty shit to attempt to watch until now
forest raven
coarse stream
so like half the maps in the game
thats actually not that bad tbh
similar to what csgo has, but for cs its pretty much ALWAYS the same 8 maps
forest raven
Each stage also has its own little playoffs with the winning team of the stage earning an extra $100k
prisma quest
Is the OWL live stream on right now already happen?
coarse stream
yeah its replays
forest raven
It's a rebroadcast
prisma quest
Yeah. Did Valiant win?
forest raven
all the way for me
idle beacon
why bitch around about that teams can't pick their maps?
i find it this way much better
if teams would get to decide, teams would concentrate on 2 maps, and a 3rd as filler
this way it's all open and teams have to freakin know every map 😃
spring lintel
Do you guys think DF can win a series against SD? I already thought DF can win before the match even started
And now think it’s very possible
lavish folio
yea for sure
idle beacon
sure they can win
if they get their stuff together
df got their stuff together ... df somehow .. still playin a bit .. dunno
lavish folio
What do you guys think of xQc's performance today?
winter nebula
yo wtf
I had no idea seagull was a pro player
I must be super out-of-the-loop
is this the same seagull that's a killer genji main?
rare tangle
Welp guys now I gotta choose who to rep outlaws or fuel for my state..boopity
rare tangle
well that would mean
I'd be repping london spitifre and dallas fuel ingame since my first free skin was roadhog spitfire and the newsletter credits one will probably be dva reaper mercy or moira
idle beacon
newsletter ye
lavish folio
go with Mickie Mech 😉
rare tangle
i had to do it twice cause the first time i didn't put in my email correctly(felt like i probably goofed by putting in an invalid one the first time)
idle beacon
i mostly play rat,orisa,moira,s76
paper forum
Just finished watching Dallas vs. Seoul... really feel like it could’ve been a 2-1 either way. I’m new to this but are there any other amazing games out there? Saw bits of the first two and didn’t look great.. maybe in preseasons..
idle beacon
nah
lavish folio
I went with orisa for my first one mostly because I don't like it's other skins
idle beacon
fuel vs dynasty was the first big clash
but later today there's another one
london and ehm
rare tangle
my top 5 this comp are roadhog mercy moira dva and reaper one of those will get a fuel skin probably
paper forum
London and Florida Mayhem?
lavish folio
oh yea
lavish folio
I feel like it's gonna be bit one sided tho
lavish folio
yea that's a good one
idle beacon
valiant vs dallas .. big one?
i'd pick the moira skin, but moira still looks borin with either what skin
paper forum
I heard something about it in Seagull’s stream last week. Really don’t have enough time to watch all the mediocre games so need to make sure I know the big ones..
lavish folio
Fusion - Outlaws can also be interesting since we really haven't yet to see Fusion in action
paper forum
Kk I’ll mark those both down, thanks!
fresh arrow
Fusion v Outlaws will be interesting, I don't know much about Fusion other than they have Carpe and Shadowburn
And their tank SADO is suspended
fresh arrow
Shanghai Dragons is also SD
Js
I had to think about your statement a few times before I realised you meant Dynasty
paper forum
I always read San Diego and you get my hopes up there’s an SD team. Don’t do this to me!
lavish folio
Fragi is a great aggressive rein player
fresh arrow
Oh and also Mendokusaii should be getting a proper go too
Iirc he wasn't ready to play in preseason because he just got back from Mexico for visa reasons
fresh arrow
I think there's one on /r/CompetitiveOverwatch
hallow helm
Hola!
fresh arrow
But the top tier teams are usually accepted as Seoul, New York, London and Dallas
lavish folio
I think you are referring to this https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/7p8fpv/rcompetitiveoverwatchs_overwatch_league_power/
paper forum
Ok that roughly fits my mental list
idle beacon
ok
if val is closeup with fuel, then val could also beat dynasty
so there .. no mix ups 😄
rare tangle
man the houston outlaws subreddit isn't even getting hype for tomorrow its dead as shit
idle beacon
are there actually channels for those teams here on this discord server?
i wonder who made that powerranking
who voted and stuff
fresh arrow
there aren't team specific channels here, nope
the fuel subreddit is also pretty dead too
but the server lights up from time to time
forest raven
The Gladiators' server is very active
idle beacon
ah man, another discord channel/server?
this is gettin even worse than irc back in the days
idle beacon
fleta didnt impress me
fresh arrow
xQc didn't suck, he just got focused hard
scarlet spear
really showed why he hardcarried flash lux into APEX
idle beacon
Dallas experimented with bizarre metas and new map tactics throughout the preseason.
that's what i've also wrote some hours earlier
fresh arrow
this is the regular season tho
idle beacon
they played unusual
not the typical meta crap
and different strat styles
lol @ the prediction about shanghai dragons
it seems to many that their win over the Spitfire was a fluke
what does he mean by this?
wow
lyric frigate
hey guys! i'm new here
i'm super out of the loop and i have some questions about the overwatch league
idle beacon
shoot
lyric frigate
What happened to Cloud 9, Luminosity and the other previous overwatch teams? I see all these city teams and i don't get what happened to the previous players and teams
sinful isle
City teams = Normal teams with new name and sometimes new roster and stuff
Many city teams got a normal overwatch team like C9 behind them
idle beacon
blizz wanted to get rid of the usual gaming organisation names
lyric frigate
LOL its pretty strange, they all have an very similar design and i thought it was something blizzard made
scarlet spear
c9 is london spitfire
pretty much all teams were organisations before
only new team is boston uprising/shanghai dragons i think
lyric frigate
wow, i see
idle beacon
i guess those names are made up from blizz
lyric frigate
strange getting rid completely of their original organization names
toxic pasture
Yea it's weird
idle beacon
it's more dunno how to say
sinful isle
The designs probably had many requirements
lyric frigate
yeah, they had to just pick one from what blizz created?
scarlet spear
brings a bonding with local viewers and investors that are behind the team can show them off kind of like football clubs
lyric frigate
uhum i can understand the reasoning behind it
scarlet spear
na they were able to get city spots, the branding is probably pretty much on the owners
sinful isle
the worst thing is like:
London Spitfire got a full Korea roster...
scarlet spear
i doubt blizzard gave them the names
more of a guideliine on what it should be like
lyric frigate
"London Spitfire got a full Korea roster..."
ahahaha that is weird
sinful isle
ye
scarlet spear
NY iis full korean aswell
scarlet spear
well it was the best choice for c9
they picked up the 2nd best proven team in the world at that point
toxic pasture
London spitfire is good but not the best
lyric frigate
probably would be better to have at least 3 non imported players
scarlet spear
after they couldnt win the bidding war for sinatraa
lyric frigate
or something like that
slim summit
Best players, no language barrier
idle beacon
@lyric frigate it's more like this: Dallas, owned by Mike Rufail, Owner and CEO of Team EnVyUs, the spot is also co-owned by nV investor Hersh Interactive.
scarlet spear
c9 jack tried to get a wester team, but wasnt able to and not satisfied with the options
idle beacon
Boston, owned by Robert Kraft, Chairman and CEO of the Kraft Group, owners of the American Football team the New England Patriots.
scarlet spear
so he went for the success option and got Kongdoo Panthera
idle beacon
so the actual gaming organisations are sort of .. gone
lyric frigate
yeah i saw the tip of what was happening with all these sports organizations buying teams and spots
sinful isle
imo the best joice of team is 
not a fav, but with many suprises and really behind the OWL, just look at them at the interviews
toxic pasture
I hope Dallas can win against Seoul next time
sinful isle
all got the same shoes and stuff xD
idle beacon
these big organisations bought their teams into the OW league
there's a shitloads of money going on
sinful isle
tru
lyric frigate
i see
idle beacon
every stage has a 1st placer, which wins 100k gran .. 4 stages .. the winner of the playoffs wins another 1000k gran
like .. wtf
lyric frigate
its a lot of money on the table
idle beacon
yup
lyric frigate
also, most of the competitive games have different competitive regions like NA, EU, Korea, etc, but this one looks like a mix up of everything
idle beacon
and this is season 1
besides that.. all the merchandising
for exsample the teamskins which you can buy .. as fanboy
;D
lyric frigate
yeah hahahaha i saw the new skins!
idle beacon
ye this season it's more usa vs korea .. plus some europeans, canadians here and there 😄
toxic pasture
I bought Dallas fuel roadhog
idle beacon
they're still playin @ one location or not @scarlet spear ?
scarlet spear
they are
but they are split into two divisions that play
pacific and atllantic
they play each other internally and at the playoffs at each stage should play against each other then
idle beacon
which i find abit weird
idle beacon
ahh
idle beacon
like the AFC and the NFC
lyric frigate
hahaha
its super cool to what the matches though
i liked the new color setup for each team
its pretty easy to see whats going on
forest raven
Interdivisional games are happening in regular league play as well
e.g. London is playing Florida tomorrow
idle beacon
not today?
forest raven
Tomorrow for me
idle beacon
in 14hrs or something
scarlet spear
i thought thats how it was? they each play within their division till the stage playoffs
slim summit
They play teams from their division 4 times each until the playoffs and teams from the other division 3 or 4 times each until the playoffs
forest raven
Sorry, misunderstood
slim summit
Title matches seem to be seeded from both divisions
balmy wolf
I missed it. Did you get LP for watching?
slim summit
Divisions seem more important for the playoffs than anything as it affects seed
balmy wolf
Well, I watched LA vs China this morning but thats about it.
scarlet spear
is there any info on the data being shown? i always liked seeing winstons lab stats from pro games and their ratings for each individual player, doesnt seem like theres any for OWL
lyric frigate
anyway i got the grasp of everything, thanks a lot guys!
it was really weird being used to see the previous team names and suddenly everything changed
forest void
anywhere where I can watch yesterday's matches as a full stream?
the OWL channel on twitch has each round as a separate video and I don't want to be spoiled as to how many rounds were played in each game
toxic yacht
it's on the
forest raven
The same amount of games are played regardless of scoreline
toxic yacht
twitch channel
tiebreakers
just go to past broadcasts
in the videos section
you'll see a 6 hour vod
toxic yacht
matches have also been split into individual 1-2 hours vods
but you'd have to navigate through the individual map display
iirc
craggy slate
I was so excited when I found out Cloud 9 had an overwatch team. Then I was disappointed when I saw their skins 😥
craggy slate
I don't like them :/
sullen berry
It's an amazing set of skins for especially when chilling in Ilios and lijiang
gusty cipher
who is playing today?
toxic yacht
oh shit I can actually watch the first game live
possibly the second one too
ShaDowBurn 😍
gaunt acorn
i dont sleep until like 7 am
i wouldnt mind living in EU
id actually rather watch OWL late at night than in the middle of the day
toxic yacht
I'd also prefer it if it wasn't for school tbh, like, 7pm+ would be perfectly fine for me
mid-day can fuck with me a bit sometimes
gaunt acorn
i missed the first half of junkertown in fuel vs dynasty because i was eating dinner
muted rampart
dallas fuel ez win
gaunt acorn
dallas fuel ez loss
sullen berry
One that can switch with a lot of options, compounded against a team who are stuck with the 6-man group with an interesting playstyle
gusty cipher
i am on vacation tomorrow just so i can watch the games tonight, feelsveryeuorevenkoreaman
zenith copper
I’m disappointed in florida’s skins
white dock
Does anyone know what xqc stands for
white dock
Damn that’s deep
leaden elk
tropic onyx
Today is Philly v Outlaws. We finally get to see how they play
stuck meadow
I think Philly gonna win tbh
toxic yacht
we'll finally get to see hoW theY do iN pHiLlY
tropic onyx
I think they'll start off rough but get better ad weeks go on
stuck meadow
London Spitfire vs Florida Mayhem is gonna be another 4-0 lol
gusty cipher
would be embarassing and amazing if not
abstract zinc
True
gaunt acorn
this how.. we do it in philly
abstract zinc
Lmao