They can't do hard updates rn since stage 1 is starting
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
They'll probs do it mid stage 1 so that teams have time to prep
But the entirety of stage 1 would still be mercy spam meta
tough summit
all skins r lame
feelsbadman
None of those skins feel original besides colours
i tilt
Or well I guess thats what happens when you make ~30 skins
Wait I misclicked esoprts discussion
my bad.
slim summit
smh
I would like to stop being shown the skins and start being told how much they're gonna cost me
leaden bear
ALL 
THE WAY
slim summit
balmy wolf
I don’t know which team to root for ugh
gentle jetty
dallas
Ooh if they did something like the micd up moments on ESPN but with the owl that would be pretty cool
gentle jetty
pick the fuel we have seagull and effect
balmy wolf
Leaning towards Fuel now woo
balmy wolf
Just watching Fuel - Outlaws preseason game and I’m definitely warming up to Fuel. The start was rocky but they’re looking good.
slim summit
i've been rooting for london on account of their having the coolest skins
but mostly i just try to root for whoever i think will win
balmy wolf
Lol
gentle jetty
They have good ones
slim summit
unless seoul is playing then i root against them to end the korean dominance of esports
balmy wolf
Fuel has the lamest lol
slim summit
(it doesn't count if they're koreans representing london)
balmy wolf
Imo
gentle jetty
I really like Shanghais skins but they play like ass so
balmy wolf
Yeah, as much as I’d like to go for skins, I just want to see creative plays. I main Dva so whoever I can root for there works
And mickie I always heard was a great Dva, I really don’t see him doing so great now tho :/
gentle jetty
He's pretty good, he can be a bit inconsistent though
ember parrot
None of the teams have Mangachu right? I haven't gotten a chance to look at the rosters
slim summit
don't think so
ember parrot
Oof
silk linden
most teams don't have all 12 spots filled though
you can expect lots of pickups happening still
I agree with Montecristo, all teams shold have all 12 spots filled as soon as possible
silk linden
https://clips.twitch.tv/PlainExcitedSoybeanGrammarKing xQc at the end 
feral solar
Twitter
glad hamlet
Hey does anyone have an extra ticket they would be willing to sell for Wednesday January the 10th? Willing to pay Market Price+ (up to 2.5x original cost) for the ticket. My friend just found out he can join and I want him to join me before he moves to Texas ;_;
balmy wolf
aluminium
spiral summit
any fans of 
?
i am a noob to esports and have to root for the best city in the west
remote yew
Anyone else think blizzard is try harding the exports thing?
Like ima stop my game to watch some nerds
solid spear
balmy wolf
slim summit
i mean, they're clearly tryharding
trying harder than they ever did with sc2 which in my opinion is a more viable esport
i'm still super concerned about some things
from a viewer perspective i'm super concerned about the number of matches
i don't feel qualified to be concerned about other things even though i still am
cyan swan
rapid oxide
red anvil
balmy wolf
@slim summit You really have to question if its worth it forcing an esport
I don't know how many people watch these recent matches but I imagine it's not a big number
And my point is, if it doesn't get bigger they can't support it forever
That's what I am worried about right now
red anvil
There just trying to push an esport in a new way
its not so much forcing
it can easily fail, but it can also be quite successful
craggy slate
So, I just got back into Overwatch, is this the first overwatch league?
velvet scarab
Yes the first season
red anvil
Overwatch Leauge is a esport leauge with massive amounts of money put into it
craggy slate
I don't like not knowing any of the players or teams, like who am I supposed to root for?! Lol
red anvil
well no one can tell you really who to root for
velvet scarab
You should watch some of the preseason matches and use those matches to help decide who to root for
red anvil
but monte cristo is introducing you to all teams here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ26xCMrmYnUWYFtZr7cWCg/videos
worth watching the videos
if your american you can also just pick a team based on your city
stone nova
Was about to ask if there's any preseason matches! Thanks @Kaku
red anvil
Houston, Dalas, Miami, LA got two teams, NY and Flordia all got teams
you can watch pre season matches here https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/videos
stone nova
Then London Seoul and Beijing? I forget the Chinese one
craggy slate
I'm from Minnesota, we don't have a team
And we're not known for good sports teams anyway 😂
red anvil
then pick a team from a city you dislike the least 
craggy slate
Lol
silk linden
Pick a team you like honestly. I'm EU but I'll be damned if I picked that insult that is Spitfire. Might as well root for Dynasty
red anvil
Dynasty 👏
stone nova
Dynasty or outlaws I'm thinking 🤔
pseudo sail
ICYMI had the opportunity to interview ONIGOD. ^^
https://twitter.com/RadoNonfire/status/948936647768530944
craggy slate
@pseudo sail and so are the Vikings, but even the worst teams win sometimes 😂
pseudo sail
I don't follow american football but the wolves are legit 😃
slim summit
massive amounts of money put into WOL
*OWL
but there will be, what, $625,000 in total prize pools until June?
yikers
where is the other money going
red anvil
stadium, commercials etc.
high prize money they said from the start they wouldn't have anything of
slim summit
are teams/players getting any other form of kickbacks from the league
(presently, not skins)
$1,000,000 to buy in? >$600,000/yr for players, winning every title match would make you profitable not counting skins and whatever form of other profitability you're allowed
i don't know anything about this sort of thing really
i'm just sort of trying to feel out where the money is supposed to be coming from
uneven flax
silk linden
Maybe broadcasting profits will be split among the teams? It's what happens in Irl sports
That and merchandise are usually the main moneymakers
Goodnight sweet prince
vestal mortar
🙏
silk linden
it's their new main roster, triple tank with no Tracer
@vestal mortar in case you missed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ze8jzwFe8
balmy wolf
Their roster is pretty flexible
silk linden
seagull is the key there, his favorite niches were straight up the heroes that nobody in Envy was playing
Custa and xQc add different playstyles, which is just as important, but Seagull is the Genji/Pharah they were missing
vestal mortar
I did miss it. I tend to miss most of these extra vids unless people post them here, ty!
silk linden
np, it's a good one
jagged crater
who dey
silk linden
bois in blue
balmy wolf
EG 🤔
modern apex
cyan sun
I am guessing Overwatch League will be streamed on Twitch?
tight vault
we don't know yet i think
frail charm
grizzled mulch
fuck Shock
limber pine
Wolf plz
frail charm
Yeah, Fusion for days
gaunt acorn
that's an odd way of spelling dynasty
frail charm
Eww
carmine ermine
Would anyone here be interested in joining my WinstonsLab fantasy league for OWL? There are 6 spots remaining currently and we have an established discord server and website.
carmine ermine
@frail charm I sent you an invite to the discord
frail charm
Got it, thank you
carmine ermine
Offer still stands for anyone else
toxic yacht
this is pretty fuckin outdated but I wasn't aware of the fact that halfear made a dignitas montage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weJM2dz8YRU
rip all of those teams, seeing all those names on the enemy teams is making me nostalgic and sad
vestal mortar
🕯
tribal geode
silk linden
^travesty of a team
sullen berry
"storytelling unlike anything we've ever seen?" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/esports/article-5239207/Overwatch-League-unlike-seen-esports.html
considering the audience for the article, I'm not sure what kind of imagination springs to people's minds who aren't versed in the concept of esports
silk linden
"Oh my god it's Birdring out of nowhere with a chair!" smashes it on ryjehong
season 2 will be decided in a cage match
season 3 will be a battle royale
jokes aside, I would love to se an all star game every season
jokes aside, I would love to se an all star game every season
maybe some chateau, paintball, mystery heroes, total mayhem...
sullen berry
maybe they're hinting at what they did with the charity event
Meme Dream Team
had a ton of viewership with their online presence -also being active youtubers helped
balmy wolf
kinda suks that OW e-sports suks
silk linden
if you say so
vestal mortar
oh
solid spear
Unlucky
white dock
Guys help me decide
Dallas or Houston
I’m so torn
I was blown away by Houston’s performance but Dallas has xqc and seagull
solid spear
I mean if you really like Seagull and xqc just root for dallas unless there's players on Houston you like similarly
Ultimately it's all up to you
frail charm
Philadelphia Fusion
vestal mortar
😬
frail charm
Hometown bois
solid spear
Aye
slim summit
When is Boise, Idaho going to have a team so I know who to root for? 
solid spear
silk linden
when is EU gonna have a team
slim summit
you have one until brexit happens
silk linden
Seagull said "well, you guys are mad about Spitfire being Korean, but I mean, most US teams are half European" bruh, we had 1 SLOT
1
frail charm
That makes sense. Whoever's really good at the game deserves a spot
gentle jetty
I have a feeling that a bunch of big cities like Portland and Seattle are going to have teams in the near future, maybe even boise
silk linden
Why not, idk, PARIS. STOCKHOLM. BERLIN.
orchid socket
will all my New York Excelsior fans put their hands up!
NYXL!!!
@silk linden i agree 2 texas 3 california, like give the others a darn chance
silk linden
@Dray#4181 the great city of Florida? :FloridaMayhem:
ember parrot
I'm just sad that my state won't ever be super involved in esports
silk linden
At least your country is
ember parrot
Tru
dusky cedar
Does anyone know how top 16 teams for open divisions get picked? Like how is it narrowed down? What is it based on?
timid tree
I live in London so I’m super happy haha
London spitfires is opening an esports arena and I’ll be able to go after work probs
spiral summit
my city is more concern with having us stop stooting each other then opening a esports leauge
midnight turret
I am from Nor Cal so rooting for SF Shock in Pacfic Divison, and NYXL in Alantic.
as far as season 2 expanson, hopefully a big EU expansion, some more KR teams, a couple more Asia teams in general and teams in the Southern Hemisphere (South America, Syndey, Pacfic etc)
weary tiger
south american teams would be the dream
supple coral
i cant wait to watch the games!
silk linden
Both the world cup and the OWL preseason peaked way higher than that
I predict at least a 100k peak
Fan favorites Fuel have a banging schedule too
fresh arrow
How is OWL dead
I mean at most people are going to watch for the skins
Then somehow will end up staying for the gameplay that will remind them that they're eternally stuck in gold
Or lower
reef charm
@slim summit Why so negative? Team owners paying $20M a piece to get a seat at the table? I think you'll see a LOT more than that.
slim summit
preseason peaked way higher than that
but for how long can OWL maintain that viewership
it's 6 hours of OWL a day, 4 days a week, 4/5 weeks until june
reef charm
No doubt there will be some challenges. But when you invest $20M, failure isn't an option. And you got 12 teams, with more vying for membership.
slim summit
often what our options are and what our realities are can be different
at least in my experience
i want OWL to succeed but damn I really don't think i can watch that many OWL matches
i'm sorry for being a naysayer in this chan though, that wasn't my intent
reef charm
I stay positive. I look with a critical eye on watchability.
solid spear
Oh I'm sure it will have peaks
But consistent viewership probably just isn't going to be all that high
toxic yacht
they probably aren't going for consistent viewership
I don't even think that they indend for us to watch every match
that probably wasn't proper english
grizzled mulch
think of it as NFL or Premier League
they don't expect you to watch everything like how esport used to do
rapid oxide
Can't wait for
Dae esport ded 10k views 20m lul
At 4am for EU and a random match during week
"told ya ow esport is ded lul 20m too much lul"
frail charm
ember sleet
frail charm
Fusion for days
ember sleet
vestal mortar
pls no spam
frail bear
frail charm
Fusion*
ember parrot
That's a weird way of spelling Spitfire
frail charm
This is gonna be a fun season
sullen berry
👏🏻 Three 👏🏻 More 👏🏻 Days
tame vessel
Boston uprising is going to make a comeback
sullen berry
@old aspen this is a channel for esports events, you want #lf-players-na and write down to a few sentences!
versed sinew
and dont ping everyone
vestal mortar
smh
old aspen
@sullen berry ohhh so sorry thank you lol new to this server 😂
sullen berry
no worries! Happy to help 😄
silk linden
According to the other OWL players who have scrimmed them, Boston are no joke. They might be considered among the teams battling for those last 2 playoff spots
If we assume Fuel and the 3 Korean teams as the top 4, we could see SanFran, LA Valiant, Houston and Boston battling for the other 2
slim summit
We'll have plenty of time to find out, I suppose
on account of how every team will face off 4x before the playoffs
Do you reckon the top few teams are competitive enough that title matches will vary?
I figure at three slots there's bound to be competition
solid spear
I mean even the top tiers
Are no where near set in stone
Long season well see what happens
silk linden
honestly, the only things I'm certain of is the three korean teams will make the playoffs, and Mayhem and Dragons won't. The rest is all up in the air
balmy wolf
Why does Sinatraa look like the Alien Ware logo?
silk linden
because you're racist
silk linden
a racist joke
balmy wolf
A j o k e n o n e t h e l e s s
silk linden
and racist nontheless
balmy wolf
how is it racist in the first place?
I’m referring to the structure of his face
Not eyes
Now someone else is making it racist
P o g g e r s
silk linden
all of these are free space tbh
except maybe C9
unless people start calling everything a C9 even though it has a specific meaning as far as OW blunders go
tfw you see chat spamming "C9" when what's actually happening is a BackCap 
scarlet spear
nobody even close to point, time runs out, chat spams c9 LUL
silk linden
yep
or, lucio/pharah boop everyone off the cart on overtime, C9 lul
dva bodyblocks people in spawn while the others cap point B in 2CP, C9 lul
frail charm
There are three Korean teams?
silk linden
yeah, New York and London are considered Korean in the sense that their roster is 100% Korean players. There are other teams that have Korean players too, but only partially
rough cave
eager cairn
What team is everyone going for in the OW league?
and also what league skins are you all getting
ember parrot
Link?
eager cairn
and you also get 1 for free
ember parrot
That sounds great
eager cairn
i'm getting Seoul Dynasty Dva or Genji
search up seoul dynasty skins it looks awesome
ember parrot
Probably Spitfire Zarya
naive plover
daily reminder Boston is a meme but I'm happy for them
And outlaws skins look sick if anything
Dynasty's too
And I'm cheering for philly because friends
But outlaws impressed me pre season
AND London and New York got some funny players
digital pond
I really enjoyed the NY video series.
toxic yacht
TIL rascal's name is Dong
red anvil
Toxcal
silk linden
Boston is a meme only in the eyes of the community. All the pros say they're a legit threat and don't understand where that sentiment is coming from
Mayhem are actually a meme
red anvil
boston meme comes from before the full roster was announced
however, still even if they do preform as good as people say they do
i dont see them above maybe 7th or 8th
limber pine
I was very impressed by Striker and DK during preseason
but yeah, I wouldn't place any less than 6 or 7 teams ahead of them right now
scarlet spear
biggest boston meme was their powerpoint presentation of the team imo
which kind of made them look like a joke
silk linden
That is true
frail charm
https://www.winstonslab.com/fantasy/joinLeague.php?id=21
Anyone wanna join our Fantasy OWL League?
naive plover
I mean boston is a meme for the laughs, i dont think people actually think theyre awful?
mayhem havent really performed well compared to other teams though
silk linden
Mayhem carry on problems they had since they were Misfits, plus they did some baffling choices that show mismanagement. Hopefully they can get their shit together as the OWL progresses
tight vault
red anvil
misfits is the team that have never ever managed to preform at a lan with competition
silk linden
Boston did do a false start as far as their public image goes, but I think their actual in game performance will kill their meme status
(they need to stop using Ms paint though)
abstract kernel
rapid oxide
OWL App is out for both iOS and Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blizzard.owl
sand berry
I wrote an OWL article my dudes, check it out https://www.dstreetmag.com/single-post/2018/01/08/Overwatch-League-Inaugural-Season-Week-0-Power-Rankings
tropic onyx
This app is pretty nice. I like the spoilers consideration
ember ocean
silk linden
you know what, that is not clear. The pre season was only available on mlg.com, they said they were gonna strike a deal to show the main season on twitch, but we haven't gotten any confirmation on that yet
sand berry
Multiple streamers have said it'll be on twitch. I'm assuming it will be starting wednesday
limber pine
did that come from Blizzard
scarlet spear
they have been for a bit now
jagged crater
carpe just arrived last week
silk linden
they even had a barbecue
scarlet spear
they streamed their bbq yesterday
jagged crater
all players?
scarlet spear
i doubt they didnt scrim online so far, just sucks considering they're all over the world
jagged crater
if they scrimmed online, their dps players would be playing at 200 ping
that sucks
scarlet spear
better than not scrimming at all ¯_(ツ)_/¯
silk linden
season 1 is gonna be a settling period anyway, most teams still need to consolidate
I hope by season 2 every team has a 12 player roster at hand
jagged crater
assuming a 12 man roster is a huge advantage or not
what london has setup is prob ideal, essentially capable of fielding 2 teams
x2 for each role
silk linden
it is a net advantage, no matter how big
you have an internal team to scrim with without leaking strats
and you might as well fill up all your spots, for any contingency
jagged crater
but if you a 12 man with like 6 dps players
cant do it quite, those dps would have to flex
for internal scrims
silk linden
a 12 man roster doesn't necessarily have to be 2 full teams
you can pick up specialists
or flexes
someone like Libero or Seagull is always a good pickup
red anvil
@light hearth are we free to use api.overwatchleauge.com? 👀
red anvil
found two resources
jagged crater
where at
jagged crater
when we getting them $tats
silk linden
silk linden
as far as the individual matchups, nothing really
but it's more of a breakdown of how the whole season goes
4 stages of 5 weeks each, with 10 days breaks between each stage
matches happen wednesday through saturday
after every stage, the 2nd and 3rd placed teams face each other, and the winner faces the 1st, and the winner of this mini-tournament gets 100k$
Idk if these things were known or not, but still, the video is a good summary
something that I knew about already that he mentions is that the highest placed teams from the individual divisions automatically go to the playoffs, though this is unlikely gonna be a factor, since Fuel and Dynasty are in the Pacific and XL and Spitfire are in the Atlantic
also, with the season only lasting from January to July, it's likely that Blizzard will give licences to external orgs to host tournaments in the off-season
light hearth
@red anvil Those end points are intentionally public feel free to use them. There's no garauntee of availability, no documentation, and they may change without notice however.
red anvil
@light hearth woho, thanks 😄 finally something to play around with
light hearth
Cheers 
willow swan
Sooo I guess OWL is going to be exclusive to MLG?
jagged crater
Bill you gotta do something about that main menu, it's too damn bright. Also plain white background looks a bit plain
also thanks for stopping by
willow swan
One day to go and still no mention of broadcast rights.
fresh arrow
Twitch needs a competitor in the esports streaming market
fresh arrow
They shouldn't be relied on to broadcast every single esports fart
red anvil
so teams couldent get sponsors
jagged crater
twitch is basically a monopoly in terms of community size and features
it's too damn big not to use
everything else pales by comparison
ive seen other companies try youtube and mlg
nowhere
and lets not forget azubu (LOL)
fresh arrow
The technical quality of the MLG stream was way better
I can understand the arguments based on console support
But other than that, the actual distribution quality is so much better on MLG
jagged crater
technical quality is great but your casual viewer aint going to care about that
they want to spam kappas and pogchamps
fresh arrow
You mean people who just want to spam chat lul
silk linden
twitch is established, it's tried and tested, it has a userbase, so if OWL wants mainstream appeal they 100% need to stream there. But I agree, MLG stream was good quality
fresh arrow
Chat spam is awful
silk linden
chat spam is always gonna be awful with 100k+ viewers
jagged crater
i think of chat spam like an audience in a real sport
random nonsense
big cheers for a crazy play = bunch of pogchamps spammed in chat
i used to hate chat spam but it works out when i think of it that way
fresh arrow
MLG still has a chat
jagged crater
boneface
fresh arrow
Lol I heard about that one
jagged crater
it was hilarious i dont know why
fresh arrow
I watched it on the OWL site so I didn't really see the meme in action
jagged crater
it was like a new community being developed
it was kinda cool
if viewing esports is going to be a thing, i think chat spam is going to be key for people that aren't social enough to goto a bar or something
it's part of the experience
it imitates the feeling of going to real live sports event with lots of people
spring lintel
First day, SD vs DF
scarlet spear
at 4 in the morning for me FeelsBadMan
silk linden
#justiceforZP
jagged crater
i wonder what ZP did to not get him invited
liek the whole mendo coup thing got me thinking ZP might've done something to irk blizz
solar trout
Are there really 624 new skins with overwatchleague? That's insane.
26 heroes, 12 teams, away and home
solar trout
hm, so if they're away then what?
jagged crater
we dont see them in-game
solar trout
Do they use default or whatever skin they want?
jagged crater
no they use away skins for that
knotty acorn
I'm sure ZP and JKap were omitted for reasons they do not wish to disclose
Also, Semmler. It's been a while mate.
jagged crater
semmler was an interesting choice
knotty acorn
He didn't impress me during OWO way back, but there was a lot of stuff going on anyway.
knotty acorn
It'll be weird seeing him outside of CS
jagged crater
hopfully, im sure he's capable
jagged crater
he did other games before CS
knotty acorn
Forgot he did Bloodline
jagged crater
not surprised he left tho
left CS for OW, i wouldve
he wasnt getting favors from the community and people noticed his decline
perhaps burnt from CS
knotty acorn
There was a full change of the guard; with Sadokist/HenryG, James/DDK
Oh he fell off hard, plus Anders had his own things to get through recently
jagged crater
they were the original duo tho, so gotta give them props for setting up the foundation
knotty acorn
Very true
solar trout
I'm confused on home and away skins still. The photos for fuel for instance are very blue(Which means home), yet in the preseason game vs the outlaws, fuel had a very white palate, which would mean away.
It really does seem more like 624 skins and not 312.
jagged crater
there are 312 skins that WE can use in-game
jagged crater
but pros also get away skins in the tournament realm / spectators see
knotty acorn
I think only home skins are only available for purchase, but the away kits are put ingame for spectators/tournament servers
solar trout
I believe you, but is there a source on that?
knotty acorn
It should come to light shortly given it's media day today, we're just putting the pieces together
solar trout
Thanks
silk linden
ryujehong, because as it is, it's the supports and the tanks that decide how a game goes rather than the dps popping off, and he's the best support player in the world
round locust
yeah same here
ryu is amazing
what class do you think has the most effect in a game?
vestal mortar
Jehong 😍
balmy wolf
2 bad overwatch can never be a competitive game
vestal mortar
🤔
silk linden
if league of boredom can, I don't see why not
silk linden
to be fair, you need a very high IQ to understand league
balmy wolf
yes
red anvil
tulip narwhal
Wait so is there a overwatch contenders for console or just a official league in general?
civic marsh
highly doubt it
ember parrot
I know there are Xbox clubs that do monthly tournaments but nothing huge like the OWL
scarlet spear
all blizzard tournaments are PC only atm
i dont think theres any interest in doing their own console tourneys tbh
do any kind of game tourneys on console get any kind of views? i remember cod sitting at like 10k for their big tourney on twitch
ember parrot
I don't know. I haven't watched any
lean karma
We've seen 5 Lucio OWL skins so far. Shock, Outlaws, Gladiators, Excelsior, and Fuel. Are there any shown Lucio skins that I missed?
ember parrot
I've heard that you can get one league skin for free. Is there any official statement from Blizz about that?
lean karma
@ember parrot yes, there is.
ember parrot
Thanks
lean karma
You'll be able to obtain them using some sort of token, separate from in game currency. We get one token for free
silk linden
there are 26 heroes though
gentle jetty
im getting all of the fuel ones eventually with some exceptions like dva and genji because i have officer and oni for those
slim summit
that's my burning question too
i just can't honestly imagine a world where they cost less than $1/each
which means getting them all would cost $300? holy f
gentle jetty
but thats kinda against the spirit of the skins, theyre putting them in so you can show your team pride
slim summit
if they cost like $1/each i'll only buy the ones i like, and maybe buy like 10 total
but if they cost $7/set, i'll probably buy all of them
except florida and boston
worn falcon
There is a posibility they're obtainable in game?
gentle jetty
floridas skins are ugly as shit
slim summit
they're rumored to be obtainable by watching OWL matches
but still no details on that shit
gentle jetty
if thats true then im getting them all i guess
worn falcon
like those twitch prime lootboxes?
slim summit
there are soooo many matches
scarlet spear
they're def not going to be in for coins
they said they have their own currency for OWL skins
worn falcon
The only thing i can think is buying those set of currency
like 10 for 3.99, 20 for 7.00
silk linden
I've read speculations about coins possibly being given away to people who follow the OWL
slim summit
there's no way i can watch 6 hours / day, 4 days a week, 4/5 weeks, until june, before even the playoffs
are there going to be team sprays
it would be weird to get team skins but no team sprays
sullen berry
@silk linden sounds like a daily streak incentive
silk linden
sounds like free shit for something I was gonna do anyway
sullen berry
Granted I've got back into work, so rip my Fridays/Mondays at work
@silk linden if they go about what they did for nexus challenge, give people who are just hearing about time to catch up or also pick up the rewards
silk linden
I mean they're obviously gonna let you pick rewards, it's about supporting your favorite team
that's why they devised the token system
oh wait I misread
lean karma
We've seen 5 Lucio OWL skins so far. Shock, Outlaws, Gladiators, Excelsior, and Fuel. Are there any shown Lucio skins that I missed?
silk linden
you mean the other teams never played lucio during the pre season at all?
brittle brook
How good the team fuel
silk linden
p good
weary tiger
top 4 team in my book
silk linden
arguably the best non korean team
weary tiger
^^
orchid herald
I wanted to see NYXL McCree in game but they didn’t play him against seoul
Who do you guys think the most powerful 3 teams are?
I’m just wondering because I’ve heard very diff answers
velvet scarab
the 3 korean teams lol
orchid herald
there’s like 6
sullen berry
I just stutter when I read the countries then compare the team comp
They're going cloud 9 and that one other?
orchid herald
No
One is GC Busan
The other is a really hard name to spell
Cloud 9 owns the team tho
sullen berry
Ahhh
orchid herald
imo top three in no order is
NYXL
Spitfire
Seoul
Some people change NY for dallas
some people change Spitfire for outlaws (which doesn’t make any sense)
sullen berry
Can't wait for more PLACEHOLDER NAME 2 or another inaug broadcast slip tbqh
orchid herald
LMAO that reminds me
sullen berry
Timezones will probably leave me ded for the big play of the three
velvet scarab
theres only 3 full korean teams
sullen berry
Madness
velvet scarab
and thats the 3 you named
sullen berry
New drinking game, one for each mention of flower while watching NYXL. It's going to be dry being under the radar and not old enough to play
wide portal
sullen berry
I just want to see if there's an NDA going around, since not playing in this seasons contenders
lean karma
We've seen 5 Lucio OWL skins so far. Shock, Outlaws, Gladiators, Excelsior, and Fuel. Are there any shown Lucio skins that I missed?
fresh arrow
In case anyone is interested, the Dallas Fuel Discord server may be going live tomorrow afternoon
red anvil
they have it but they havent made it public 
naive plover
i mean philly even got their meme expert and dallas dont even have a discord
red anvil
Valientcord is filled with amazing emotes 
Dynasty is also getting a discord tomorrow
so dallas aint the only ones that is slow apperently
naive plover
i just assume dynasty dont have one because theyre korean but maybe thats like bad to assume
i know boombox set up phillys himself 
red anvil
nyxl and spitfire both have discords, with split channels for english and korean.
Dynasty is founded by investors from NA, so the ceo is quite keen on pushing it to westerns 😃
slim summit
Foreigners will always oppose Korean teams, especially if there's no loophole like that which London gives us
red anvil
London is particularly bad, unlike NYXL - they own no charm
they dont try to be liked, they just exist
slim summit
Perhaps losing to well-marketed, friendly, relatable Koreans is worse
Better if they have no presonality and wear masks like the Clone Troopers
weary tiger
that's kinda why I don't feel that passionate about korean teams. Despite them constantly being really fantastic players
they are players and not personalities
red anvil
i think your wrong there, NYXL have shown amazing personalities there simply amazing and have a huge follow base in west
same with the core of Dynasty, old LH
red anvil
well, same goes for western players
just very few have really shown there personas
some show it too much
weary tiger
just for me personally i dont encounter playres that make me feel passionate about them or their team
yeah thats true
that is a valid point
red anvil
once western players start watching koreans, they will start feeling the same as westerns as well
everyone is massively hyped for flower since WC
naive plover
i love NYXL for some of their personalities tbh
dynasty is also pretty good
its kinda bad how people assume koreans arent people or personalities just because they dont understand their language lol
scarlet spear
^ most of the koreans also had no exposure to the western audience till lately
OWL and the kind of fall of afreeca.tv makes them show more about them nowadays
red anvil
i dont think people relized how big of a streamer Runner was before he quit afreeca.tv
scarlet spear
also said in an interview that he got offers from a couple OWL teams to be their general manager and they would pay him whatever he made off streaming plus a bonus till he actually told them what he makes off streaming 😄
vestal mortar
I went to Poland to meet team South Korea >_>
red anvil
tara is a groupie 
sullen berry
Commitment 👏
silk linden
300 armor, make firestrike hitscan
red anvil
make firestrike go sideways 
sullen berry
I need to embark on a quest to join all the OWL servers
silk linden
give us dem insider infos from the Shangai server
vague urchin
At what time does the first OWL match start?
vague urchin
They have an app?
silk linden
yep, just came out
vague urchin
Neat
toxic yacht
reinforce is right
silk linden
on the two types of reinhardts? Definitely
that's why I say he is in fact a great analyst
toxic yacht
all other reins are pussies, kaiser, fragi and reinforce are the only real rein players 😡
sullen berry
I appreciate LA Valiant with each day that passes
white dock
I just got the overwatch app, under standings it says wildcard and division, what does this mean?
limber pine
Division just sorts them by division
Wildcard sorts by who makes the playoffs
@white dock
white dock
Are playoffs the finals?
And what difference does he division make? Do teams only play teams in their own division?
@limber pine
limber pine
The top two teams in each division are guaranteed to make the playoffs.
The final 4 teams are decided by best record regardless of devision
*division
each team plays 20 games in their division and 20 games cross division
white dock
Are the playoffs the finals?
silk linden
p much
abstract kernel
abstract kernel
Twitch coming to OWL boys , announcement today `~~
Twitter
silk linden
pog champ
digital pond
There's a fat contract in there, good looking 😮
scarlet spear
now the last hope is that they have increased bandwith to make the stream look sexy like MLG
silk linden
I mean, why strike the deal if they don't at least get that
balmy wolf
So whats the first match gonna be?
limber pine
elfin flare
Shrek VS Mr.Incredible
toxic yacht
Prob some NA based team vs some other NA based team
limber pine
huehue
frail charm
BleacherReport: OWL and Twitch agree to two-year broadcasting deal just before opening day 👀
silk linden
"We’re also working with Blizzard to develop new rewards for Overwatch fans, including exclusive in-game items. " this almost confirms the speculation
there will be a variety of ways to earn OWL skin tokens
balmy wolf
Overwatch League has their own Twitch channel now
naive plover
who said OWL wouldnt be streamed on twitch? 
limber pine
there was no official confirmation until about an hour ago
so while it was highly unlikely, it was by no means confirmed.
jagged crater
confirmed twitch?
naive plover
Feels kinda weird that the source i heard it from was so correct then
silk linden
@jagged crater yes
naive plover
like the first time before rumors came up
i get where youre coming from but still lol
naive plover
and it was smart to use MLG pre season
limber pine
@jagged crater #esports-news silly goose
jagged crater
i almost never check announcements for any forum/server/channel
that's just me
check reddit for news most of th time
silk linden
I always check announcements here though, since it's the stuff that matters
red anvil
@naive plover no one, people just misunderstood slasher
People interpenetrated "we dont got time to find sponsors because deal is not ready" to "there wont be twitch"
silk linden
lol nice word there
jagged crater
where has slasher been, he disappeared?
red anvil
wasent slasher that misinterpreted this time, it was everyone that misinterpreted slasher
eh, hes just been doing his own stuff
pliant nacelle
OWL skins comingo ut in an hour
red anvil
he became very active spamming twitter over the last few days
such as leaking there will be twitch earlier today 
something that was leaked by jacob wolf for idk, 1 month ago?
limber pine
him and thoorin team up to talk to each other over twitter
jagged crater
OWL skins in an hour? 😮
limber pine
that is the word on the street
pliant nacelle
im readyyyy
jagged crater
xqc said they comin today? the leak maestro
pliant nacelle
haha yea he did too
vale acorn
OWL streaming on yt btw
pliant nacelle
but he always leakin'
vale acorn
Edward kaplan is my name
jagged crater
wonder how much xqc gonna get fined by the end of the season for leaking
silk linden
Twitter
"'We definitely want people to be rewarded for engaging with the Overwatch League,' said Nanzer. 'We've got a lot of cool ideas, the most obvious of which is earning tokens and team skins."
"'One of the benefits of having the stage structure is that they're a very natural point for us to do any patches. Once a stage starts, it's unlikely there will be any new patches.'"
Mercy nerfs for Stage 2?
silk linden
yeah
after all the season lasts 7 months, and lots of patches and balancing cycles happen in that timespan, so it would be weird to have to play that long in the same patch
hell a new hero will come out before the end of the season
live now the preview show
silk linden
seoul outlaws for sure
silk linden
I actually think Outlaws skins all look great but McCree, which is ironic
orchid herald
nyxl mccree
pliant nacelle
watching overwatch league, engaging. no details yet. but mid season
and they'll do mini fantasy things where you pick a player to do something like win a match etc and you get rewarded OWL tokens
idle beacon
no german, no canadian player in those OWL teams, right:
?
who decided / picked those 1000 korean players?
pliant nacelle
europe is focus for season 2 of OWL. probably will be a paris team and berlin team
jagged crater
im poor af so im not gonna be buying em lmao
idle beacon
hm ok
pliant nacelle
canadian players in OWL yes, surefour in LA gladiators is from canada
jagged crater
but i will watch OWL
idle beacon
ah ok
pliant nacelle
XQC of dallas fuel is from montreal
idle beacon
3 from belgium
vivid solar
Why are there two teams with the same colour scheme? It seems like pretty poor brand to share a colour scheme with another team
silk linden
¯_(ツ)_/¯
vivid solar
like what is happening here https://i.imgur.com/o02vEC5.png https://i.imgur.com/CI2xvAX.png
I could not tell you which is from what team
by only looking at the colours
idle beacon
one has anthrazit
silk linden
shangai is more red shifted, and has black too
jagged crater
shanghai is more red i take it
idle beacon
the other doesnt
vivid solar
I get that it's more red, but the 2 team colours of each team are red and yellow
silk linden
the only german OW player I can think of is the late InternetHulk
vestal mortar
🕯
vivid solar
When you're looking for brand recognition, you don't want something like a t-shirt to be identified as being from a different team. no?
jagged crater
well you'll never see them both wearing home teams competing eachother
vivid solar
lmao that would be a mess
idle beacon
@silk linden .. lol ..
jagged crater
rip hulk
vivid solar
I just mean in general as branding
idle beacon
only him?
vivid solar
not visually in games
silk linden
I guess Veineless too
idle beacon
and why late?
vivid solar
because he's dead?
silk linden
he died recently
idle beacon
what?
vivid solar
I'm suprised you didn't hear about it
vestal mortar
😭
worn falcon
what?
idle beacon
i aint into reddit, twitter, instatrash
vivid solar
I don't follow any esports and I heard tons about it
jagged crater
there was another notable german player
silk linden
he was a really big figure in OW esports
vestal mortar
Did you only get into esports recently?
Oh yeah, skipjack. :c
Nesh is German too, hope he is on a team for Contenders
idle beacon
what happened to him?
vestal mortar
His heart was enlarged
silk linden
birth defect to his heart
fading mulch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/220510116561027072/400380449542897665/unknown.png ok boys its over
rip my chat experience
silk linden
btw I keep coming up with canadian OWL players, Idk how you missed them
fading mulch
the same fate as rocket league
silk linden
Huk, Verbo
jagged crater
!tokens
silk linden
Bani
jagged crater
!drop
fading mulch
!rewards
idle beacon
too bad, man
fading mulch
🙁
balmy wolf
Please no.
idle beacon
so team fuel is actually his 'team' ?
silk linden
you mean Hulk?
idle beacon
ye
silk linden
kinda
idle beacon
_ He founded IDDQD, who found significant success in the early days of Blizzard’s FPS, before many of those players were signed to Team Envy, who also earned several titles. Team Envy has since evolved into Dallas Fuel, which will be competing as part of the Overwatch League._
silk linden
yeah exactly
idle beacon
@silk linden .. gell
vestal mortar
idle beacon
i got 1 skin free .. i'm rat,s76,orisa,moira main .. hmm
silk linden
vs in the first week, I'm so conflicted
vestal mortar
Wew me too
vestal mortar
I have too many players I love but Seoul is my one true bias
idle beacon
i am always for the underdogs
vestal mortar
👀
silk linden
at least Dynasty actually represent a Korean city, gotta respect that
compared to like Spitfire
silk linden
nope
idle beacon
where u from?
vestal mortar
I have supported LH since APAC Premiere 2016
silk linden
Italy
silk linden
nah
vestal mortar
I love esports
silk linden
we as a country are really bad at esports in general, so I don't even consider it when watching them
vestal mortar
Same
silk linden
I'd maybe lean into a EU team, but Spitfire are a travesty
silk linden
we lack the culture and the infrastructure
we've had like, Pokemon or Magic The Gathering world champions, which are games that don't require a good internet
idle beacon
maybe juventus will someday have an esports subdivision
silk linden
do any non English teams have esport subdivisions?
idle beacon
and i'd need to do some research. but i guess some more in germany
silk linden
idle beacon
and the states, some basketball or football team is startin aswell
idle beacon
they bought fnatic fifa team?
or what is it with the fnatic logo
but yea.. it's a start 😃
schalke 04 has a fifa team, aswell
and gettin bigger or something
silk linden
yeah, they made a team with Fnatic
silk linden
but still, the country has a big inftrastructure problem, so it's hard for good esport teams and orgs to arise here
idle beacon
all needs it's time
silk linden
other western countries are light years ahead though
idle beacon
ye sweden
vestal mortar
We will never have esports here either :C
silk linden
the three koreans and dallas will very likely go to playoffs
the other 2 playoff spots are harder to place
idle beacon
3 koreans are dynasty and?
silk linden
london and NY
silk linden
for the last 2 playoff spots people say Houston and LA Valiant, but I'm not sure about that
vestal mortar
I hope Houston does well
silk linden
they have the best youtube channel
vestal mortar
Haha so good, I love them too!
silk linden
who is that?
lean karma
Can someone send me a pic of Spitfire Lucio??
jagged crater
why are we talkin german players all of a sudden
vestal mortar
¯_(ツ)_/¯
silk linden
because winston is german and wants to know about the german presence in OW esports
idle beacon
ye
jagged crater
chill guy, happens to be a winston main a while back too
idle beacon
too bad he passed awyau
silk linden
🕯
idle beacon
🕯