I'm a Zen main and i'm just pissed that zen's "balance" is about dps lol Moira is more balance than the ZENyatta
#esports-discussion
coarse sequoia
quick seal
with the exception of deadeye
real sapphire
When I use Valk, I honestly feel like im cheating
orchid herald
He’s one of the more UP heroes
quick seal
imo deadeye needs changes
orchid herald
Especially in the ult department
coarse sequoia
i'd rather heal more and have 100hp instead of 50
gaunt acorn
this game certainly isnt going the way i thought it would
livid rampart
Oh shit next match. Soon vs IDDQD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tired river
most op heroes atm are tracer/winston/d.va
orchid herald
Seoul vs Shanghai is gonna be interssting
coarse sequoia
yeah this game has definitely been a flip to what people where expecting Dray
orchid herald
^
vernal pagoda
where can I watch the league?
real sapphire
DVa is OP and garbage at the same time. I dont know how they managed to balance her like that. lol
gaunt acorn
winston is far from op right now
north tendon
I always knew mercy would still be around, doesnt mean shes isnt less fun to play for a lot of people
quick seal
deadeye could lock in faster and go through some defenses like genji's deflect
balmy wolf
Is it? I didn't expect much from mayhem
quick seal
imo
old bough
SmolKing replace that winston with mercy and i agree
gaunt acorn
he's one of the most balanced heroes
tired river
spring lintel
How the hell any of the heroes u just said are op
tired river
tracer has literally not been out of the meta once
gaunt acorn
only op heroes right now imo are mercy & junkrat
orchid herald
Heroes that need nerfs
Tracer
D.Va
Mercy still
Junk maybe
Heroes that need buffs
McCree
Ana still
coarse sequoia
Winston is in the best place he's ever been now that he gets a shield hp bar
vernal pagoda
cheers
spring lintel
I agree with drat
real sapphire
Like...baby DVa being staggered sometimes makes her so garbage
balmy wolf
nazgrol are you platinum?
spring lintel
Mainly junkrat and a bit of mercy
north tendon
I just think Ana or some supports arent as versatile as before
more than mercy being op
spring lintel
Ppl playing mercy cause of her mobility
balmy wolf
Id like to see a mei buff to counter tanks harder to stop dives
orchid herald
Lucio just dropped in usefulness when moira showed up
north tendon
moira and mercy imo might be the future meta
orchid herald
All he’s got at this point is speed
north tendon
too good
coarse sequoia
i suppliment my Zen heals being lower than other healers with my killing the enemies lol
orchid herald
Heals are near useless for lucio
tired river
pros have said that they would prefer old d.va over her rework because of how stupid she is
orchid herald
^
quick seal
mei's freeze could be buffed to also slow down movement abilities
orchid herald
Blizzard:
“We’re gonna make dva more tanky and less dps”
Proceeds to do the opposite
north tendon
smol you mean this dva is the strongest?
orchid herald
*mercy
spring lintel
Smol is giving some random ass comments and opinions
north tendon
well I see dva in like every game
spring lintel
Who the hell said the old dva is better
north tendon
shes definitely impactful
tired river
pro players
orchid herald
A crap ton of people
balmy wolf
which is a good thing
spring lintel
No pro players said that
old bough
old dva ResidentSleeper
balmy wolf
for winning bam
orchid herald
She needed something other than micro missles
orchid herald
She wasn’t fun at all before but now she’s just retarded
real sapphire
missle wasn't needed
spring lintel
Who cares it was unfun powerful
orchid herald
^
spring lintel
That why she is nerfed
orchid herald
But it’s worse now
tired river
i think it was iddqd that said it in a recent podcast
north tendon
they didnt care at all about her ult charge
spring lintel
That why old mercy got nerfed
north tendon
so more bombs too with the missiles
spring lintel
Show a video
orchid herald
She just went from strong in dive to incredible in dive
spring lintel
Cause all pros said she is better now
orchid herald
Blizzard clearly has favorite heroes
tired river
orchid herald
C O U G H tracer
spring lintel
Time?
tired river
its in the first 20 mins somewhere
orchid herald
cOuGh dva
slim summit
i doubt she's a favorite
spring lintel
I am not gonna listen for 20 mins
slim summit
i think that's just how it happened
normal iron
Such a shame they have to play Horizon lol
orchid herald
She got micro missles which just made her stupid
slim summit
never attirbute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance etc
forest raven
orchid herald
She just deletes people now
gaunt acorn
my fav player
normal iron
handle 2
orchid herald
She went from deleting projectiles to deleting people lmfao
scarlet spear
handle 2 
gaunt acorn
KRUSHER99 vs HANDLE 2
coarse sequoia
Lily i saw that and laughed my ass off xD
scarlet spear
pretty sure thats not handle 2
normal iron
babybay is probably one of the most well groomed esports dude ive seen this year
scarlet spear
thats babybelle
spring lintel
She went from just holding right click to actually doing stuff
old bough
and thats a good change
north tendon
you mean babybell
spring lintel
Yes
spring lintel
New dva is goof
lament dune
That live editing job just superb
real sapphire
Babybay is actually super handsome
spring lintel
She is like the old dva
orchid herald
She’s too great imo
tired river
it was a good rework, but she is still incredibly fucking strong
spring lintel
But with extra dmg instead of HP
tired river
moreso than before
normal iron
people complained that she ate all their damage, now they're complaining that she's now killing them
maybe you're just bad kek
tired river
cause she can chase so goddamn hard
orchid herald
Well she’s eating people now
north tendon
shes eating supports now
spring lintel
Not really it’s just this guy
spring lintel
He thinks winston is OP
orchid herald
She eats support for breakfast lmfao
spring lintel
He thinks junkrat is okay and not OP
normal iron
getting dva out of mech is ez
orchid herald
Winston is good but not OP
coarse sequoia
Sombra = perfect counter to Dva if you get the hack off
orchid herald
Good luck doing that
north tendon
as a mercy dva is one of the worst things I try to avoid
old bough
mercy went from staying afk in spawn and bs ressing to a skill based but unfortunatel op Valkyrie
tired river
i never said that @spring lintel
north tendon
like flanker level
balmy wolf
WOAH KANONIER
dull flicker
3 years
spring lintel
You never said what?
tired river
find me a quote of me saying junkrat is not op
orchid herald
there is
real sapphire
I hate when people say there is no skill in Mercy
orchid herald
i don’t main mercy and I’ve played her
balmy wolf
you hit e
dull flicker
i can play Mercy with my feet
orchid herald
She is more difficult than you think
tired river
cause i said he is not badly designed
balmy wolf
someone is back.
old bough
wdym aqua
coarse sequoia
i just get bored playing mercy because i play her good but it's too easy to get results
real sapphire
Mercy takes a lot of skill
balmy wolf
no she's not.
orchid herald
Try playing her then
real sapphire
Do you know how hard it is to stay alive
coarse sequoia
play her well* sorry grammar fail
balmy wolf
i have.
north tendon
theres a lot of situational awareness pressure with mercy
orchid herald
Go into a comp game and win if she’s so easy
balmy wolf
in gm.
north tendon
its not about aim
balmy wolf
it's the easiest thing ever.
north tendon
its about survivability
slim summit
it's super hard to stay alive when you can fly across the map and heal every second ecks dee
gtfo
real sapphire
Being in position 100% of the time is a skill
slim summit
every hero has to be in position 100% of the time at this level
north tendon
its hard because you have 15m of range to heal buddy
real sapphire
most dps dont have to worry about that skill
north tendon
meaning you need to take risks
spring lintel
You said the most op heroes are winston/dva/tracer
north tendon
or you are abad healer
orchid herald
tfw when mercy has more range than Lucio
I don’t main mercy
I hate playing mercy tbh
balmy wolf
^^
orchid herald
But she’s definitely harder than you think
balmy wolf
mercy just has to position herself
old bough
im a dps main im playing s7 flexing so pretty much 24/7 mercy and i climbed 300sr in gm thanks to beeing good with other heroes and just understanding how the game works
normal iron
The only thing about mercy that have a problem with is that she's still a must pic
pick*
orchid herald
She’s a lot easier than say Lucio and Ana tho
tired river
i concede that winston is not op, but he is one of the 2 tanks with a strong movement ability, which makes him super strong just for that
spring lintel
She is must a pick imo because of her mobility and not rez
balmy wolf
if it's easier than lucio
real sapphire
position herself 100% of the time. has to have good map awareness. and has to make sure she doesn't die
balmy wolf
it's a bot hero.
coarse sequoia
@balmy wolf she's stupid simple to play well, not so much "easy" to be honest. I get bored playing her because she's so stupid easy to get game winning results if your team can react to someone jumping you
real sapphire
Just because Mercy is OP doesn't mean she takes no skill
tired river
anyone who says "x hero does not take skill" is ignorant
north tendon
again its hard to be shit with her
old bough
shes not easy to play at all
orchid herald
according to blizzard Moira takes as much skill as mccree
north tendon
but theres a lot you can do better
orchid herald
that’s funny
gaunt acorn
!tmobilemvp xQc
real sapphire
Every hero takes skill
orchid herald
Lmfao
slim summit
everyone on the game has to position themselves 100% of the time and have good map awareness
normal iron
rip
balmy wolf
yes exactly
north tendon
but not everyone is a prime target
slim summit
except roadhog
balmy wolf
just because a skill applies to mercy
tired river
^
tough summit
Mercy is must pick in high ranks especially due to people dying less than in lowrank.
She gets a lot of healing off and therefore gets ult fairly often - and the broken part about Mercy was Valkyrie, not ress.
balmy wolf
i think mercy will always be picked in esport games unless they practically nerf her into the ground like doomfist
orchid herald
!tmobilemvp flower
oh wait
tired river
the thing is that every other hero doesn't have 4 people chasing them
spring lintel
Yeah the pocket is insane
balmy wolf
so you hit shift
normal iron
I hate that she is a must pick
coarse sequoia
I guess i just find her easy then. I'm talking high plat-high diamond. I just get bored playing her because of it though. not trying to start a fight about her
normal iron
and if your team doesn't have a mercy and the other team does? they have the uppe rhand
north tendon
no she is easy mechanics wise
orchid herald
if you’re gonna complain about an easy hero complain about genji
im joking don’t kill me
real sapphire
is Mercy is alive you are hunting her
north tendon
but theres a lot more going mentally
slim summit
"mercy is hard" arguments belong on the overwatch forums
balmy wolf
it's clearly not hard.
tired river
to be fair, eevee playing mccree on his smurf i the funniest shit
slim summit
pros don't like playing her because of her low skill cap
real sapphire
Mercy isn't hard.
balmy wolf
here i'll fix my comment
north tendon
you cant just put as easy or hard
balmy wolf
it takes little to no skill whatsoever
real sapphire
But she does take skill
balmy wolf
you need three iq
coarse sequoia
genji's reflect box and directional grab to reflect is the only issue with him in my opinion. Mercy on the other hand is overly simple and still the highest heal rate over any healer
orchid herald
Genji has some serious hitbox issues
slim summit
shit i don't see the maps
north tendon
also custa a pro support player recently said mercy might be easy
slim summit
my stream is shitting itself
normal iron
Horizon is an AWFUL map
tired river
spring lintel
The deflect thing is not huge anymorr
tired river
not in the stream
orchid herald
Yeah it is
coarse sequoia
- Junkertown 2)Lunar 3) Ilios 4)Numbani
spring lintel
It got nerfed way back
orchid herald
They should at least make it more visible
balmy wolf
i don't know how you can possibly say that mercy has hard decision making
orchid herald
It never got nerfed at all
tired river
blizzard commented on the deflect hit box and said that the bigger hitbox is pretty much the only way to make it any good
real sapphire
Pro players also say rez should not be an ability
balmy wolf
you just run away from enemies and don't take huge risk rezzes
orchid herald
It’s huge
normal iron
I just wanna watch Seoul and Shanghai
spring lintel
Dudes, chill. Mercy is not that easy
old bough
aqua whats your sr bro
balmy wolf
4138
orchid herald
That’s why if they made it more of a visible hitbox it would be better
dull flicker
i fucking love Grim
quick seal
Rez is stupid powerful as an ability and makes mercy often a must pick hero or disadvantage
orchid herald
So you don’t shoot someone near genji and he deflects from 3 meters away
coarse sequoia
@obsidian lava I was more referring to the fact that i've shot a genji from behind and he reflected it at my teammate in front of him
orchid herald
funny how Overwatch would be much less toxic if rez didn’t exist
coarse sequoia
honestly I think they're phasing out rez slowly
balmy wolf
hell yes
tired river
nah
balmy wolf
please do it faster
tired river
they are making it less viable
orchid herald
At this point they should get rid of rez
normal iron
Nah
normal iron
There’s nothing wrong with Rez
balmy wolf
oh my fucking god
slim summit
lol
quick seal
k
slim summit
hopefully the match will start soon
orchid herald
There is
normal iron
Just git gud
slim summit
and we can drown out this foolishness with hype
balmy wolf
are yyou..
tired river
yes totally undoing a kill in 2 secs is a fun mechanic
balmy wolf
i can't even...
normal iron
She’s so easily killable when she rezzes, just shoot her head
spring lintel
Dhak is so buff
orchid herald
Yes she’s punishable but even if she took 5 seconds to rez
balmy wolf
have you heard of a shield
orchid herald
It’s just a stupid ability
balmy wolf
or a winston bubble
balmy wolf
anything
orchid herald
Or any tank
balmy wolf
to block damage on mercy
tired river
or any protection at all
balmy wolf
LITERALLY A GENJI CAN BODYBLOCK AND HELP GET A REZ OFF
tired river
or just wait till you have ult and be unkillable for 20 secs lul
spring lintel
Junkertown the cancer bastion map
balmy wolf
^^
orchid herald
Junkrat is my favorite map
tired river
ew
normal iron
She’s not invincible during Rez anymore, just give her a kiss
orchid herald
I love the part that’s on fire
quick seal
also valkyrie rezzes
quick seal
insta double rezzes
orchid herald
Valk exists too
balmy wolf
she's never dying
normal iron
Never played tank in my life
tired river
if they made her have a channel time while ulting as well so she doesn't have 2 freecards, then that would be awesome
normal iron
Nah, I’m a torb main
old bough
have you ever played mercy aqua?
balmy wolf
yes.
orchid herald
Mercy can just fly 3,000,000,000 feet in the air and just go NYOOOM and rez sOMEONE then fly back away
old bough
more than 1 game
balmy wolf
it's my second most played in competitve
normal iron
Oh wait, yes I am a dps torb main
tired river
i mean
spring lintel
Silkthread and sleepy are solo queue guardians
tired river
torb is usually played as a support
feral solar
LOL
tired river
in team settings atleast
feral solar
love monte
balmy wolf
Buuuuuuurn
normal iron
Heal with those packs boi
scarlet spear
uber hell yeah
orchid herald
If sym can give extra health
worn hornet
shit that burn
tired river
yes
orchid herald
Her entire kit just reeks of defense and she’s a support like what
slim summit
overwatch forums itc
it would be cool if these player cards had a list of the most played heroes or something
balmy wolf
Shield gen is OP as hell
keen warren
The fuck? Uber out of a CSGO event ?
normal iron
Teleport is like a more delayed rez
tired river
the whole defense category is a shitstain anyway, why not complete the collection lul
slim summit
more than just having the 2-2-2 icons
spring lintel
Poor danteh
orchid herald
Theres a broke af spot for a shield gen in junkertown second checkpoint
keen warren
Fuck, didn’t notice
feral solar
haHAA
old bough
widowmaker defense hero btw
normal iron
Rip danteh
orchid herald
If you put it at the spawn really far back it extends almost to the enemy spawn because of the curve
balmy wolf
i don't see why widow shouldn't be a defense hero
spring lintel
Feelsbad when you play tracer and get benched for someone else to play tracer
old bough
shes way better in attack
normal iron
Long range defence
gaunt acorn
BASTION META
normal iron
Peek a boo
slim summit
they're just benching players out of obligation
orchid herald
They should just much defense and offense into one dps category tbh
spring lintel
OMG they are gonna play in so much cancer
slim summit
everyone has to get in the match today
spring lintel
Holy shit
orchid herald
It would look cleaner
scarlet spear
that panel looks sick
tired river
royally fuck this map
spring lintel
Junkrtown/lunar/illios
normal iron
Junkertown is orisa city
tired river
you're giving me ptsd aqua
normal iron
Rein is everyone’s grandpa
tired river
oh god the flashbaks
old bough
orisa dva is better for pirateship imo
normal iron
Mercy picked both sides
balmy wolf
i wonder why
tired river
cause its an open map and mercy thrives on open maps?
normal iron
Dva is very good most payload maps
old bough
who said shes balanced
balmy wolf
no one
balmy wolf
hopefully no one
spring lintel
Imagine it going to round 12
spring lintel
We are pretty sure it’s going to round 6
woven jewel
They should have let LA be the home team
orchid herald
rip Lenny may he Rest In Peace
normal iron
Dva is really good at clearing space in payload maps
orchid herald
^
quick seal
I'm surprised no one ever says anything about widowmaker because she takes skill to hit the head
doesn't mean she isn't super fucking powerful
balmy wolf
This is a sexy omnic team
orchid herald
Cheese comp is used even in the OWL... 
balmy wolf
that's like saying that awp noscopes are op because they take skill
coarse sequoia
2 omnics isn't an "omnic team" though
orchid herald
pocket intensifies
balmy wolf
Itbwas 3
normal iron
I find that dps players are always the angriest about mercy
balmy wolf
Orsa zen bastion
north tendon
BALANCED HERO LUL
tired river
what is the difference between an omnic and a sentient robot anyway?
coarse sequoia
oh ok you were talking about when the bastion was around
tired river
lmao
woven jewel
lol
north tendon
marii, because mercy is good at denying their satisfaction of kills
orchid herald
Wtf was soon doing
tired river
why is bastion an omnic then 😛
balmy wolf
LOL
spring lintel
Sanfran dominating these games
normal iron
Who knows but babybay is continuing to dominate
orchid herald
I like how this is an esports discussion and everyone is talking about how some characters are omnics
balmy wolf
wait i have one more question
spring lintel
The whole team really
orchid herald
Shoot
balmy wolf
do you guys think mercy should be banned from pro games.
normal iron
Nah
tired river
nah
north tendon
riptirewatch
orchid herald
not really
tired river
just fixed
balmy wolf
No
normal iron
If they’re pro’s they should know how to handle things
orchid herald
Honestly no hero should be banned
normal iron
If you ban a character, it’s insulting
orchid herald
Unless someone gets to prenerf McCree levels no
north tendon
Junkrat imo is more an issue
coarse sequoia
i think the entire support section needs some tweaking, Moira aside ofc.
balmy wolf
I really really dont want bans
slim summit
insulting lul
quick seal
moira def needs tweaking
balmy wolf
it's like saying
slim summit
who is being insulted
balmy wolf
"we can't balance so we're banning it"
north tendon
its like saying we are trash at balancing
balmy wolf
it's self insulting
orchid herald
What if you were excited to see someone play ur main and then bam they’re banned
normal iron
If they can’t handle a mercy, why are they pro’s 
slim summit
"this hero isn't fun to play against or watch in matches"
orchid herald
how did you post that thonk
real sapphire
IF Hog lands a good hook, he should be rewarded with a kill
north tendon
which would be blizzard's fault
balmy wolf
paid for nitro lul
tired river
i mean when the mercy change came out, pro's straightup refused to paly with her, so the competition client was rolled back
orchid herald
rip
spring lintel
This state of overwatch is so sad
quick seal
imo, banning a hero would be admitting you've made a mistake and then giving a promise to correct it
orchid herald
im not paying
slim summit
assigning blame doesn't make matches better
normal iron
coarse sequoia
you'll find you very rarely see a mercy spectated in the pro matches lol
balmy wolf
...
coarse sequoia
likely because everyone knows it'll be a beam
old bough
aqua think about that, would you rather watch games with mercy or just waste 20% of the game time due to reseting after getting picked to get that 6v6 fight
orchid herald
^^^
balmy wolf
one hundred percent i'd like to watch games where people reset
old bough
might be less than 20% but w/e
normal iron
Mercy makes fights longer and more interesting
spring lintel
Sleepy is a fucking sniper
balmy wolf
e
north tendon
dps mains enjoy being rezzed
orchid herald
I hated getting 5 man high noons and being hyped and the mercy just rezzes from behind a wall
north tendon
she doesnt make them wait to respawn
normal iron
Lmao
old bough
i think this is better for ow esports growth
coarse sequoia
Aqua....all heros use left click, E, and shift in fights....
normal iron
Dps mains are the first to complain about other teams Rez and then are the same ones to yell for Rez
tired river
do you guys remember the beta? where mercys rez range was practically unlimited
coarse sequoia
some occassionally use right click, but those are the game controls lol
normal iron
LOL
balmy wolf
i don't hate mercy i hate rez
orchid herald
Lmfao 40 meter rez
tired river
she could ult in spawn and rez people on point
quick seal
mercy would not be hated if she was even with the rest of the hero roster
orchid herald
Two hooks
coarse sequoia
#bringbackBetaBastion
coarse sequoia
lol
quick seal
rez + valkyrie is too strong
north tendon
how would you want her to be even?
tired river
give her some other utility
ornate berry
can someone tell me who won shock VS mayham
north tendon
if blizzard can find another use for her that isnt rez
real sapphire
what are those bags in front of the players
quick seal
you seeing that keyboard?
north tendon
that would be interesting
real sapphire
they keep grabbing them
forest raven
I remember when this channel was esports discussion and not overwatch discussion 2.0
balmy wolf
hehe
slim summit
yea idk wtf this is
tired river
fite me
normal iron
What I’m seeing is the very bad postures
north tendon
its because we are seeing mercy in these preseason matches
balmy wolf
^^
coarse sequoia
the bags i think are hand warmers or a hand wipe bag
real sapphire
does anyone know?
forest raven
This channel is for discussing current matches, not balance or hero issues
tired river
they are hand warmers
normal iron
Why is soon doing the same thing as babybay
north tendon
gotcha
normal iron
Is this the same match
north tendon
see ya
normal iron
Rekt
balmy wolf
yep have a great day lily
orchid herald
She does 60 hps plus dmg boost plus rez she’s really strong
And has the best mobility
quick seal
when the best players in the world gravitate towards certain heroes, that speaks volumes of balance
orchid herald
And has the best support ult
balmy wolf
most consistent healing, best ult, best ability.
tired river
lmao what
orchid herald
Tracer has been too strong since launch and blizz doesn’t wanna nerf her
tired river
bby
normal iron
kek
orchid herald
Rip
scarlet spear
damn that babybay BM
coarse sequoia
*widowWave
old bough
imo mercy ress cast time should increase based on the target hp
normal iron
Soon is having a bad time
tired river
health is balanced with hitbox
spring lintel
The BM ma doggie
tired river
so that wouldn't be fair
old bough
max hp calm down buddy
quick seal
both genji and tracer are too strong imo
normal iron
They don’t wanna upset dps babies, so they’ll probs stay the same
quick seal
true
orchid herald
^
balmy wolf
Robots MVP
tired river
i really have a hard time believing blizzard gives a fuck
orchid herald
Genji and tracer mains are the ones that say McCree is the best dps with the best mobility
tired river
about whiners
balmy wolf
Iddqd WTF!!!! Walking bastion kills
orchid herald
Like LMFAO this one genji said “McCree does everything great cc reliable abilities short cooldowns high mobility”
normal iron
Whiners are the reason mercy keeps getting changed
old bough
blizzard cares way to much about casual players
orchid herald
W H A T
tired river
if they deem a hero unhealthy for the game, they are gonna change them
balmy wolf
booom
normal iron
If you can track, u can walking bastion shooty tooty
tired river
the thing is that people will always hate change
orchid herald
If heroes are unhealthy tracer is like a tumor
tired river
it's human nature
quick seal
tbh as I picked this up, I was really fucking surprised that this game was touted as the new competitive game
quick seal
because the balance is absolute bonkers in this game lol
normal iron
Tracer is a nerd
normal iron
Tracer is a face of ow
tired river
nah the game is obviously balanced around mei
orchid herald
She should really get a nerf though she’s too strong at every level of play
north tendon
^
slim summit
lol
north tendon
shes the mercy of dps picks
normal iron
Tracer is the face, mercy is the most played yet dva has the biggest amount of merch
quick seal
tracer and genji are basically completely lacking counters
north tendon
in pro play
orchid herald
And her special counter cough mccree gets his cooldowns abused best by tracer
orchid herald
Make it so recall doesn’t reload gun
slim summit
roflmao
tired river
if you nerf her damage you risk one clips not being a thing
normal iron
SanFran and Florida was McDonald’s vs mcdonalds
quick seal
what if recall didn't heal? 
tired river
lmao
normal iron
Red n Yellow 
orchid herald
it would be useless
old bough
you could extend the blink cd by like 0.17/0.2 but that would be a big nerf
slim summit
#bad-balance-ideas-discussion
normal iron
It’s almost lunch time but I can’t leave to get food because this game just started
quick seal
I mean, recall not healing would completely solve op tracer lol
tired river
nerf her health to 100 hp
north tendon
a true dva main
orchid herald
That makes her trash
tired river
take away blink
tired river
nah im just memeing
quick seal
would mean tracer would have to completely fall back instead of staying in combat with effectively 300 hp
I mean, she has the mobility
north tendon
shhhh the tracer mains are trying to tell you she only has 150 hp max
orchid herald
Two second???
tired river
isn't mercy's 2 sec?
slim summit
LOL what
quick seal
it's not like other heroes have to and CAN fallback for hp
slim summit
holy F
gaunt acorn
HOLY
quick seal
why can't tracer?
feral solar
HOLY SHIT
gaunt acorn
uNKOE
slim summit
the play is real
real sapphire
wow
feral solar
HOLY SHIT
real sapphire
what a game
balmy wolf
you guys are delayed af
normal iron
Silkthreads debut
orchid herald
uhh i didn’t see it
real sapphire
holy genji balde
normal iron
Henlo
slim summit
yea
orchid herald
my browser crashed right there
spring lintel
HOLY FUCKING MOLY
orchid herald
Feelsbadman
normal iron
That was a good match
gaunt acorn
unkoes clutch transcendence and healing dva mech back to full was excellent
spring lintel
That’s a freaking agility right there
gaunt acorn
silkthreads genji obv too
orchid herald
@slim summit that’s not very discussion like
normal iron
I love when Zen’s bring my mech back from the brink of death
spring lintel
Silkthread didnt even use the trans
toxic mason
that genji oh man
spring lintel
After he dashed in
normal iron
I can’t wait to see Seoul vs Shanghai
orchid herald
^
orchid herald
^^^
vale wedge
Silkthread fucking killed everyone
normal iron
Same
balmy wolf
seoul will roll
normal iron
Black and gold best skins
balmy wolf
dynasty fighting!
spring lintel
I love how all the blades kills were not even on camera
orchid herald
How many did he get I missed it 😔
spring lintel
He is getting so many kills and we are watching a trans on payload
Like a 6-5k
Trans plus blade
orchid herald
Wow
spring lintel
2 man army
old bough
any1 knows if theres APEX s5 comming up?
normal iron
Zen/Genji OP
spring lintel
They should have dealt with the genji, he wasnt within the trans
Plus they are all full hp
spring lintel
Yes
orchid herald
LMFAO
spring lintel
They were coming from spawn
balmy wolf
la was on defence..
old bough
horizon
normal iron
Godddd horizon is such an awful map
spring lintel
He killed the tanks because the squashies gave him the reset for the extra damage and mobility
real sapphire
i hate Horizon so much
orchid herald
TOP TEN MOST EPIC ANIME MOMENTS
dire crow
horizon get ready for 4 rounds
normal iron
7 rounds
orchid herald
rip
balmy wolf
and torb/symm
orchid herald
horizon
top ten saddest anime moments
I wanna see a kings row game tbh
Kings row is my favorite map to play
orchid herald
It’s actually balanced
normal iron
And when blizzardworld goes live that’ll be another great map
orchid herald
Unlike that trash heap horizon
and
kek
junkertown
trash heap
junkertown
get it
ill see myself out
orchid herald
Point A: hard af to attack
Point B: hard af to defend
old bough
get rdy for 2nd po... 💤
orchid herald
like what
velvet scarab
triple dps 1 dva?
normal iron
Dva solo tanking attack is risky
No shield... I wanna see if they have anything planned
slim summit
switched to winston pretty quick
lost the pharah
i can't remember if that was shock or McDonald's
normal iron
They need a shield. Winston shield is trash
Rip pulse bomb
Double tank was the way to go, nice
tired river
i think my stream died
tired river
rip me
gaunt acorn
stream is good
tired river
yea you say that
old bough
dude im -200iq i thought safran was a dafran meme 
tired river
lmao
old bough
4am EU thoughts
normal iron
Was I banned from this channel temporarily 
tired river
i know right
normal iron
Lmao
tired river
at this point im just not gonna go to bed
gaunt acorn
CLUTCH
coarse sequoia
so clutch lol
normal iron
NICE
tired river
my stream is back in 240p
coarse sequoia
that dva ult sealed it though
slim summit
what if valiant wins
spring lintel
Silk thread is nutty
balmy wolf
i wouldn't be surprised..
spring lintel
Killed the flying mercy
normal iron
bestzoningult
coarse sequoia
the florida is still worse than both of them?
orchid herald
What a great zen
real sapphire
Horizon sucks so much
coarse sequoia
lol
balmy wolf
it's like rogue/immortals
orchid herald
Valiants is like immortals I think
tired river
maybe valiant is only good on cancer maps 🤔
balmy wolf
they have soon and unk0e
normal iron
Good thing they have all the cancer maps
orchid herald
man i can’t wait for the stomping of the year when nyxl has its preseason march
balmy wolf
nyxl vs dynasty'll be fun
old bough
next map will be koth poggers
orchid herald
^
balmy wolf
dynasty will probably get rolled though
orchid herald
Maybe
scarlet spear
gc busan is london
orchid herald
When NYXL gets flower in season 2 they’re gonna DOMINATE
proven tide
Fuel V Outlaws is gonna be great
slim summit
yikes the little white icons next to their names
scarlet spear
NYXL is LW
slim summit
can't even see the valiant helmet
balmy wolf
wait what
orchid herald
Fuel is gonna crush outlaws
forest raven
Dynasty is playing dragons today, and Busan is on spitfire. Nyxl is legit blue
balmy wolf
am i retarded
tired river
i doubt fuel v outlaws is gonna be close
balmy wolf
i thought gc busan was london
old bough
aqua they played on a super old patch we'll have to see how they are doing on live
scarlet spear
NYXL is old LW Blue, london is GC Busan & kongdoo Panthera
tired river
london is 2 different rosters
velvet scarab
spitfire is london
balmy wolf
OH MY BAD
normal iron
Lmao
balmy wolf
i meant tosay london vs dynasty
scarlet spear
different divisions for those teams afaik, so gonna take a bit till they can play each other
tired river
i wonder if shanghai stands a chance
balmy wolf
probably not
tired river
they seem like such a wildcard
balmy wolf
does shanghai have any people from miraculous youngsters?
forest raven
They're an unknown but probably not
scarlet spear
gotta prove them, but their roster seems a bit questionable
tired river
nop
scarlet spear
nope
normal iron
We won’t know until they play
balmy wolf
err
gaunt acorn
no and MY just disbanded officially today
scarlet spear
nobody from MY got picked up
old bough
i want to see tier 1 SK teams on the mercy patch
forest raven
But dynasty is most likely the best team in the league. I expect a quick 4-0
tired river
wouldn't think so
tired river
i think dallas stands a chance against the korean teams
balmy wolf
i don't
normal iron
Damn
scarlet spear
maybe they do, i personally want them to stand a chance
gaunt acorn
London is a close 2nd
scarlet spear
cant have koreans totally dominating
gaunt acorn
I think Seoul is best in the league too
slim summit
are there any foreigners on dynasty?
scarlet spear
nope
gaunt acorn
- Seoul
- London
- NYC
- Dallas
north tendon
I agree on 1 and 2
gaunt acorn
my confidence in dallas is a little shaken after watching taimou and xqc lately
north tendon
unsure about 3
gaunt acorn
taimou seems miserable and doesnt seem in a good mindset
tired river
i think london will take it, 2 rosters means more versatility
balmy wolf
that's just xqc being xqc
tired river
xqc is a different player ingame
scarlet spear
doesnt taimou always seem miserable ?
north tendon
flower is with london?
balmy wolf
not yet
scarlet spear
apart from that 1-2 months of PMA he seemed like it to me
gaunt acorn
not this miserable
balmy wolf
he's not 18 yet
gaunt acorn
taimou seems really depressed rn
north tendon
LUL
gaunt acorn
i think NYXL's pma will win
nocturne sable
That was the most memeable thing I've seen
normal iron
Ooo that was some cranky
old bough
Seoul and NY rosters are stacked, i dont think london can beat them
balmy wolf
deplorable didn't know this was a hillary stream
gaunt acorn
London can beat NY's roster
balmy wolf
i think london will beat seoul
balmy wolf
i don't want them to tho
gaunt acorn
GC Busan & KongDoo vs LW Blue
balmy wolf
seoul best team
tired river
but i still hope dallas can pull through, want custa to do a shoey on stage
balmy wolf
gc busan & kongdoo vs lunatic hai is a ggclap
scarlet spear
dont forget seoul picked up the GC Busan coach, which apparently made all the strategies for their Apex wins against LH/KDP
gaunt acorn
seoul has the busan coach
north tendon
this music is fire
balmy wolf
money
tired river
money speaks
pastel meteor
LUUL
scarlet spear
not only money
balmy wolf
LUUL
scarlet spear
he represents korea, instead of a different county/city
balmy wolf
busan didn't get a team haha
sly charm
fate throwing confirmed
orchid herald
I think NY can go toe to toe with both London and Seoul
forest raven
Dynasty now has fantastic dps, busans head coach and ofc alwaysoov
balmy wolf
they already had fantastic dps
balmy wolf
didn't they pick up fleta and munchkin?
orchid herald
Mano
scarlet spear
yeah
sly charm
is anyone else not surprised at all that mayhem lost with a no-sub roster?
north tendon
london will definitely dominate when flower is available
forest raven
Fleta, munchkin, weeked > esca, gido, whoru
gaunt acorn
i have a feeling Seoul vs Shanghai will be 3-1 instead instead of a lockout
rocky anchor
I'm debating on repping one of the LA teams while out and about here in SoCal
gaunt acorn
feel like Seoul is saving strats
rocky anchor
but I'm fat and wouldn't look good in a jersey lol
tired river
i doubt it makes a difference in the preseason @sly charm
jagged crater
Are people surprised sfs is looking nutty?
gaunt acorn
i'd like to see them just annihilate shanghai
rapid oxide
Yes tbh
orchid herald
Well SFS roster was looking pretty bad
jagged crater
Then again it is preseason
scarlet spear
wasnt expecting babybay to look that good
silk linden
Twitter
balmy wolf
it's 1-1
tired river
lmao
gaunt acorn
the emote in front of the hog?
north tendon
lol
gaunt acorn
on junkertown?
tired river
i guess
gaunt acorn
thought that was just bm lmao
orchid herald
@little raven theyre probably gonna win
balmy wolf
who knows
scarlet spear
probs premature BM
sly charm
can teams sign on players in the middle of the season or no?
jagged crater
I like dhak
silk linden
the emote in front of the Dva in horizon
orchid herald
Yes
orchid herald
If NYXL gets flower in the middle of the season they’ve basically secured top 2
tired river
there is a period in the middle of the season where they can sign players @sly charm
scarlet spear
flower cant join mid season
orchid herald
But I don’t know when he turns 18
scarlet spear
hes too young
scarlet spear
season 2 earliest
orchid herald
Ah
orchid herald
I still think NYXL is definitely top 3 at least
orchid herald
Everyone pretty much agrees at this point that London, Seoul and NY are the best three
silk linden
dallas tho