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forest raven
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fuel is envyus' franchise

safe orbit
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He earns a lot

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Probably finland's best player

forest raven
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jiri finland's gift to esports masalin makes that title contentious

safe orbit
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Okei/Okay

forest raven
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linkzr

vestal mortar
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LiNkzr 😍

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I hope they will have an eu store for OWL merch. Paying customs from NA would be no fun. :C

safe orbit
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Taimou played in nip and now he's in tdf

vestal mortar
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Either that or I will have to get my boyfriend to order everything for me πŸ‘€

nova wadi
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i hope the jerseys are going to be lit

mellow gale
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is there any other games happening from now till 6th dec

forest raven
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taimou was on envyus

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not nip

safe orbit
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Oh

vestal mortar
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Yeah the jerseys looked sick in the presentation

safe orbit
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Just weekend confusion

forest raven
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the original envyus roster is the first six of dallas fuel

clever wagon
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World Cup playoffs started at 2 AM for 1st day and 11:30 PM for 2nd day for me. I ain't complaining tbh

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The world is round, nobody is gonna get a perfect timezone. They probably tried to get the best times where the most playerbase are located

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And I'm not sure either India or Indonesia are included in that

vestal mortar
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It's all gonna be on LAN so they want to have as many people able to attend in the arena as possible.

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Sure they could do stuff in the middle of the day but everyone would be at work/school. This way they can have people decide "oh hey, I'll go watch my favourite team play in the Blizz arena once/twice a week"

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I won't get to watch any of the matches I want live because I'm in EU but I completely understand why these are the times they're working with.

clever wagon
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Yes

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It's honestly stupid

vestal mortar
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I don't think it's stupid...

clever wagon
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And yes I deserve to say so because I'm in a timezone not too far off where most matches will run when I can't watch live

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I meant the complaint being stupid

vestal mortar
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Ahh

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Okay haha

clever wagon
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Like

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To OP

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Think again how this world works

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Uhh round? Different timezones?

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Of course they're gonna prioritize regions with the bigger playerbase

clever portal
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Going to have to watch VODs GrandpaRage

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Time to switch to paladins

vestal mortar
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Hehe

clever wagon
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(then again 'cause my classes have thinned out being a last semester kid I can actually watch Dallas at this time)

vestal mortar
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Maybe I will stay up for Dallas vs Houston since it's a Friday

clever portal
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That's Friday morning

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So Thursday night

vestal mortar
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Oh, rip. I will watch the VOD at work then :c

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This will be my life now

clever portal
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But LA Gladiators vs London is at 11 pm Thursday

vestal mortar
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Ehhh I will see

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I am not particularly interested in either team so idk yet, it'll depend on how busy a week we're having at work.

clever portal
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But it's the only EU team GrandpaRage

vestal mortar
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EU team of teams that beat my boys LH... >_>

novel meadow
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Where do the games take place?

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In NA or where the team is based?

vestal mortar
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Blizz arena in LA

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Season 1, all games are LA based

novel meadow
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Oh RIP

clever wagon
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(Yes remember that snip is GMT+7 for me) @vestal mortar

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Wait

vestal mortar
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Yeah I am on the website myself and everything is in my timezone

clever wagon
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This means

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Those Korean boys are put in the same position as EnVy who had to stay in Korea almost a year

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Interesting

vestal mortar
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Well I doubt they'll be in hotel rooms, they'll probably have a team house

clever wagon
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Then again they'd probably have better acomodation since OWL standards

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You saw nothing

vestal mortar
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And I think a lot of KR pros welcome going to NA to escape inven

clever wagon
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But yeah lucky for them they're in LA and kept safe from hotels by OWL rules

vestal mortar
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Kaiser said that when KR pros go to NA, it is almost like inven forgets about them

rapid oxide
clever wagon
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Yes, but I don't think every single match must be watchable for the NA audience. Surely they can afford to miss one or two matches a week, so we can watch one or two matches a week! :(

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I'm GMT+7 and I still can't relate to this bloke

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I won't

vestal mortar
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Yeah I don't think people paid 20mil for a slot to have their team play in an empty arena.

clever wagon
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True

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12 x $20mil are thrown into this league (2 of which came from the very same timezone that got shafted - China and Seoul wink wink) and he's actually asking them to reschedule.

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Everything including pre-season is at the LA stage right? @vestal mortar

forest raven
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yep

vestal mortar
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INDEEEEEEEEED

vestal mortar
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I was hoping pre-season would be while I will be in Canada but it's the week before I go

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Word thief! >: O

clever wagon
clever portal
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Will Inven forget about Sado gremlindva

clever wagon
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If he's a bitch-ass booster I'm hoping they won't

vestal mortar
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Yeah that is what I am thinking too. I am very unsure because this is a bigger deal in terms of drama.

clever wagon
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'Cause Fissure was also on his case

red anvil
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sado probably wont make it to s2, no worries

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so no korea SeemsGood

clever wagon
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I'm still happily grinning seeing Custa's name in Dallas

errant dune
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Florida mayhem, I feel bad for them so far.

orchid briar
clever wagon
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Why feel bad about Misfits?

errant dune
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Was all hyped about them getting a team but without some great additions I don't see them doing that much based off past preformance.

vestal mortar
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Well they'll have plenty of room on their roster for mid-season signings

orchid briar
clever portal
clever wagon
scarlet spear
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i mean the upcoming nerf is already known?

clever wagon
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Idk

scarlet spear
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1.75 sec ressurect casttime and 75% slower movement during that outside of valk

muted kettle
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im top500 7w7

clever portal
clever portal
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Mods MercyWut

balmy compass
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USA v SK match link anyone?

rapid oxide
balmy compass
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Ty

feral wing
spiral summit
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i love how wrestling lingo is now just stuff we say now

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like heelturn

balmy wolf
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GO EXCELSIOR

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Outlaws kkthx

worn falcon
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The OWL gonna be pay-per-view or free?

limber pine
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Why would it be pay-per-view?

scarlet spear
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if it was pay per view it would be DoA

worn falcon
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that's why im asking , thanks!

blazing parrot
worn falcon
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I was curious, and is my first e-sport to watch lol

blazing parrot
wintry matrix
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was there even anything PPV in the history of esports?

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i don't doubt there will be in the future

clever portal
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Not sure

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I guess actual sports are PPV

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So I could see how you could think that you have to pay

limber pine
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.

lunar ether
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when is overwatch league starting

wintry matrix
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next year

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jan 10

limber pine
wintry matrix
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pre-season starts dec 6

grizzled mulch
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i mean even in actual sports

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it is very rarely PPV

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it is mostly for combat sports

scarlet spear
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^

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i can watch pretty much every big sports event outside of fighting without having to pay for anything

grizzled mulch
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and also

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with the way streaming and piracy works

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it is impossible to have it behind a paywall

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lol

digital frigate
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@scarlet spear why not fighting?

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You can watch all sporting events for free on reddit.

clever portal
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Lmao, not legally

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If you have the money you should pay

turbid bloom
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anyone know about the esport skins they released?

drowsy loom
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none so far

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they announced that owl skins will be available in game, but not yet

turbid bloom
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i mean like for the world cup they teased them

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owl?

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oh they will be?

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where did they say that?

drowsy loom
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in the owl presentation

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i doubt they make world cup skins available

turbid bloom
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i thought owl skins where world cup ones

drowsy loom
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OWL is the Overwatch League

turbid bloom
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oh

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i thought those were the skins that the teams were using

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liek canada was like red n white

ashen lily
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there are many more OWL teams than there were teams in the WC.

turbid bloom
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but they were using some OWL skins right?

ashen lily
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Not to mention like 5 of them are US based, even if their members aren't all american

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No

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What you see on the spectator view is just color coded to their nation's flags

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If an OWL team uses the colors from the country's flag, sure it'll look similar

turbid bloom
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i mean arent these their skins

ashen lily
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what

turbid bloom
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i cant post images here

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like the skins they are using

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those are the owl right?

ashen lily
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in game they don't see that I beleive

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and no they're not

sour wigeon
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has there been any sombra in the world cup??

ashen lily
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Ryujehong played some sombra, as I recall, with pretty good results.

turbid bloom
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i thought it was

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thats why they made it red n white

ashen lily
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? they made the US red and white and SK white and blue because of their flags.

turbid bloom
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yeah i thought that was their skin

ashen lily
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none of the US OWL teams have that color scheme, and Seoul Dynasty doesn't have white+blue either

sour wigeon
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thank you Igari

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@ashen lily do you know like what matches he played sombra in or whatever

ashen lily
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the one i remember off the top of my head is SK vs France, 3rd game of the series on Hanamura

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I think he did play him in other places tho

sour wigeon
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thank you!

ashen lily
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np

sour wigeon
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ok I just watched the end of the finals and SK won.. what a shocker lol

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but im excited to see the sombra gameplay on their side when I find it

turbid bloom
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oh so you're saying taht they only changed the color schemes for viewing purposes?

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but the owl skins have not been used yet

ashen lily
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no, they haven't.

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WC and OWL are completely unrelated

turbid bloom
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so its just a color scheme change they did for world cup

ashen lily
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yes

turbid bloom
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ah okay

balmy wolf
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it just helps viewers differentiate teams, i saw a lot of complaints about people struggling to distinguish after the qualifiers

turbid bloom
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ah

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i noticed that none ran hitscans

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they did like pharah gengi

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or pharah genji tracer

ashen lily
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there was plenty of soldier, mccree, and widow gameplay

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especially from fl0w3r

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not to mention virtually every match with Soon or saebyeolbe was bound to have a tracer vs tracer matchup

loud tree
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lmao SK is using bastion on CP

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that's awesome

clever wagon
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Igiari (ν”ŒλΌμ›Œλ‹˜ ν˜•λ‹˜μœΌλ‘œ λͺ¨μ‹œκ² μŒ)

none of the US OWL teams have that color scheme, and Seoul Dynasty doesn't have white+blue either

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@ashen lily shanghai dragons

ashen lily
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"US"

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plus shanghai dragons are red and yellow, not red and white

clever wagon
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He asked about Canada vs SK

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Canada was wearing home palette and it's as red as it gets, almost similar to Dragons

ashen lily
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i mean shanghai isn't exactly canadian either

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πŸ‘€

loud tree
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my god sinatraa is a fucking god on tracer holy shit

clever wagon
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The color palette

ashen lily
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are they the same? no

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that's the point of that conversation, they're not using OWL skins for WC.

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being similar means nothing

clever wagon
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They're not the same but that guy mistook it for Shanghai Dragons

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Jfc

ashen lily
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that conversation ended like an hour ago lol why bring it up

clever wagon
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Because their base palette is a similar red

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Because I see something needing correction?

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thonk

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Whatever dude

ashen lily
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lol ok? good for you man

blazing parrot
loud tree
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how did the US / SK teams pick their players for the world cup match?

mild peak
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I think US did a bunch of scrims with players then narrowed it down

loud tree
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just based on where the players lived / played?

forest raven
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they held tryouts

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some countries like australia and france didn't and just imported a full roster

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blank and rogue, respectively

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@loud tree

loud tree
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what do you mean imported a full roster

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pulled played from other regions?

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players*

blazing parrot
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as in

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rogue were are french

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blank are all australian

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so instead of building a completely new team roster

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they just used rogue as the french team and blank as the australian team

loud tree
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ohhhhh

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haha

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interesting

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makes sense πŸ‘ ty

blazing parrot
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its easier

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

loud tree
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🀷

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US v SK is ridiculous to watch

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fuckkkk

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oh my fucking god

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flow3r's widowmaker is un fucking real

digital frigate
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@loud tree Should I’d watched it live 😒

rare cosmos
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yeah shit was nuts lol

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best series of the event

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fucking hate watching mercy/junkrat be so powerful but the games were still hella fun to spectate

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which says a lot i guess about the plus sides of the viewing experience

wicked sundial
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When will Overwatch league start

forest raven
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preseason begins 6th december @wicked sundial

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regular season 10th january

wicked sundial
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Thx

scenic remnant
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What is your favourite esport to watch

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?

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Overwatch can be kinda confusing when teams are close to eachother

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But the dps ults are good tho

clever portal
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I like CS as well

balmy wolf
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how do you get into esports starting out?

vestal mortar
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Seagull got me interested in esports, I never watched any pro play/competitive games before OW. πŸ‘€

solid spear
forest raven
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same

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s4 got me into ow though

solid spear
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I primarily watched fighting games before OW...then I saw the light Dafran

forest raven
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dafran OMEGALUL

solid spear
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If it wasn't for Dafran I'd be watching competitive Lawbreakers

forest raven
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how can one watch that which does not exist

solid spear
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Don't hate on my 15 πŸ…±ois

scenic remnant
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I prefer watching csgo tho since i can keep track of it

red anvil
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OW is easy to keep track off

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once mercy gets nerfed at least

solid spear
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In seriousness I watched tournaments before I ever watched streams but idd, s4 and Mendo were some of the earlier ones

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OW is hard to follow at times for sure

red anvil
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i dont find it hard to follow tbh

solid spear
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Hopefully the new spec continues to help with that and like Kaku said mercy nerf helps

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You play the game I assume

red anvil
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yes but my gamesense is not more then mediocre

solid spear
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I have friends who don't play OW who have found it very hard to watch in the past

red anvil
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put the same friends who dont play dota or leauge to watch that

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do they understand anything?

solid spear
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I have

red anvil
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because i dont

solid spear
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With League at least they get it more

vestal mortar
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It's super individual as to whether you find it hard to follow. It's fine for me but I can see people who are used to slower paced games finding OW hard to follow.

solid spear
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Obviously CS is just easy to understand

red anvil
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i've not played leauge, and i cant watch it because i've never played mobas

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instead of 25 heroes with 4 abilities, you have what 200?

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with additional buffs, alternations and so on depending on upgrades

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i got into OW with very mimimal effort

solid spear
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I mean I can understand all these games but from my experiences with people who dont play these games OW is one of the hardest to follow

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I think part of that might have been old spec which is why I wanna see how watching OW for regular people will change

red anvil
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new spec will help, but its hard to watch the white silhouettes at some places

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especially with twitch'es video compression

scarlet spear
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blizzard stream compared to twitch really made the difference in compression show

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but watching OWWC without twitch chat 😦

solid spear
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Watching anything without twitch chat

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!tmobilemvp xqc

forest raven
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!tmobilemvp xqc

red anvil
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i swapped to blizzards website as well

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it was a lot better

vestal mortar
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!tmobilemvp Dafran

red anvil
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but blizz deffo needs to fix the video issues on twitch

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they were annoying

solid spear
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@vestal mortar flmhypergood

vestal mortar
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I don't think Blizz can do anything else, everything I've read about has Twitch's issues

scarlet spear
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i just felt like watching the stream on twitch

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everything was grey

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nothing had real colors in it

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it was weird

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might have just been me, but that really kept me off focus, especially in the sweden vs canada match

forest raven
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i only found it a bit difficult in sweden/uk

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after that i was fine

red anvil
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blizz got partnership with twitch

vestal mortar
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Yeah

red anvil
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they can sort something out

scarlet spear
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whooops, i meant sweden vs uk

mild peak
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Twitch needs to stop being a piece of shit and let people stream at higher rates

solid spear
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Yeah first game was kinda rough

vestal mortar
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Yeah I will send a strongly worded email to the people I know at Twitch

scenic remnant
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Finals were like β€œBEAT EM UP!!!...... oh its SoKor”

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Lmao

vestal mortar
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I was contracted by twitch for work for a little while so maybe I can talk to somebody I knew πŸ‘€

scarlet spear
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i mean a lot of people including some of their biggest streamers want to stream at higher bitrates

red anvil
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big companies abusing irish tax cut system again? πŸ‘€

vestal mortar
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It was just for some freelance illustration when I was self employed :P

solid spear
spring lintel
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Guys, I am almost gm. Do i have the right to express my opinion yet

mild peak
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have to be top 100

spring lintel
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Shit

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I will be back

solid spear
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You could express your opinion even in you're bronze

forest raven
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as long as it doesn't break the rules, say whatever the fuck

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people can make fun of it as long as it doesn't break the rules, too

untold berry
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Speaking of SR rank. What are the chances of getting from mid-gold to Diamond/Master in one season?

mild peak
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depends on what you play

untold berry
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Hanzo main

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loljk, I usually dont mind filling. I'm a D.Va main by trade but my pool has a little of each group in it

mild peak
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You'd probably have an easier time getting to diamond/master with off tanks and DPS

red anvil
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trashdamage s4

forest raven
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trash damage is 4k damage and 2 elims

blazing parrot
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i want wc skins

untold berry
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Saaaaaaaaaaaame, they looked awesome

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Red lighting from Winston

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I wonder if they'll do something like that for the league

scarlet spear
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definitely

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home and away colors again

untold berry
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The lightning was my fave part, that and the Mercy beams

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Flow3r's Widow was my least favorite. Disgusting performance, fucking filthy plays

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Nobody should be that accurate, thats inhuman

willow dew
jagged crater
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max bateman who

balmy wolf
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but yeah team south korea kinda just steam rolled everyone

plucky gulch
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not surprising

balmy wolf
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even though team usa didnt make it very far (mainly because they were against south korea in their first match) im glad that canada made it to second place

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second place is really impressive in this considering who came in first

obsidian tundra
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Blizzard needs to nerf South Korea

vestal mortar
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No!

balmy wolf
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to be fair USA did tie with them on hanamura

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4 to 4

clever portal
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They already tried their best with mercy meta

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USA couldn't win even when the game was rigged

blazing parrot
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and flow3r hurt his hand too

limber pine
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wait

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like legit?

vestal mortar
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Fl0w3r played with a hand injury? Yep!

limber pine
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wow

blazing parrot
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@vestal mortar who are you

clever portal
vestal mortar
glass imp
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Has anyone figured out why Australia never swapped for a hitscan against Canada?

copper nymph
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The south kroea vs America match everytime i heard tobis name or saw him he was dead

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cant say hes bad because hes not

pliant crypt
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Wait so did Australia win at all? I haven’t been following the matches

forest raven
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Australia lost 3-2 to Canada in quarters

pliant crypt
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Oh, didn’t Australia use junk in of the rounds?

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Or was that another country

forest raven
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Just about every country played junk

pliant crypt
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Lol

pine star
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Tickets on sale

grizzled mulch
velvet scarab
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hes saying the same thing in effects chat too

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hes pretty triggered lol

gentle jetty
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im probably way too excited for the preseason

forest raven
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dude

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i need games now

gentle jetty
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i would imagine that the games will be streamed on twitch?

forest raven
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most likely

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playoverwatch channel probably

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and maybe on MLG too

gentle jetty
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i hope it gets a spot on tv sometime, not likely at all, but it would be cool

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like on espn 3 or something that nobody has

forest raven
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who knows sureShrug

velvet scarab
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it was on disney XD wasnt it

forest raven
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contenders was yeah iirc

gentle jetty
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thats not a bad guess

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because disney xd has everything vidya now

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like a lets play tv show

gentle jetty
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me over here praying for a owl team in portland, i mean, we have the blazers and the timbers, so one of those owners has to be interested?

candid moon
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where do i watch usa vs south korea

limpid estuary
clever portal
feral solar
forest raven
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OWL Overwatch League Season 1 OWL

https://twitch.tv/playoverwatch

Preseason
December: 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th

Day One Games:
FloridaMayhem Florida Mayhem vs. Philadelphia Fusion PhiladelphiaFusion
LAValiant LA Valiant vs. SF Shock SanFranciscoShock
SeoulDynasty Seoul Dynasty vs. Shanghai Dragons ShanghaiDragons

Day Two Games:
LAGladiators LA Gladiators vs. London Spitfire LondonSpitfire
DallasFuel Dallas Fuel vs. Houston Outlaws HoustonOutlaws
NewYorkXL NY Excelsior vs. Boston Uprising BostonUprising

Regular Season begins January 10th, 2018

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/

red anvil
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lily grabbed exclusive rights πŸ‘€

forest raven
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πŸ‘€

red anvil
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should probably add in day three and day four too be announced

forest raven
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the listing before day one and two has 4 days

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why do the names have to be long damnit

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it fucks up the pins

clever portal
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Not mod but can pin GWnkeHYPEREYES

forest raven
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you know it boi

clever portal
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Runaway Runner's first twitch stream

scarlet spear
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runner pogchimp

knotty flower
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NO SPOILERS*****

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Should I watch the USA vs Korea quarter final match

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haerd it's pretty good

clever portal
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Watch it, it was good

subtle fable
clever portal
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Sinatraa destroyed

hasty marsh
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Does anyone know what settings flower plays with?

scarlet spear
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@clever portal nonono you dont understand, SBB had perma zen orb, that carried him

hasty marsh
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I like Sinatraas but I couldn't find the Korean players setups

subtle fable
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you mean sensitivity?

hasty marsh
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And dpi

last lantern
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its probs on inven somewhere

subtle fable
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carpe 900cpi x 3.12
flower 450cpi x 10
SSB 500 x 12.86
found this from kr site
could be changed

!sens
(sensei raw) dpi-810 in game 8.04
(rival 100) dpi-500 in game 12.86
SSB stream nightbot commands

hasty marsh
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Thanks πŸ˜„

subtle fable
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Depends on the hero he use

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SSB's for tracer

hasty marsh
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Yeah I play a lot of Tracer

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Rn using 500x 13

untold berry
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I know the settings CoolMatt69 plays with. "Hero Pool = 1", Skill level = Skrub

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Awful plays by US D.Va

wintry matrix
blazing parrot
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effects is 800dpi / 4.5 in-game / zoom sens 40

vestal mortar
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Wth you talking about, coolmatt is a god. 😑

drowsy loom
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nice troll

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If he was that bad, he wouldnt be in OWL and Team USA

pine star
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lulmatt

wintry matrix
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to be fair Jake is in both and he isn't stellar

pine star
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I did the thing

grizzled mulch
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Coolmatt is a weird case imho

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In Fnatic during the earlier meta and triple tank wasnt very good

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Or at least unnoticeable

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Now this meta he is good but suddenly he is this uber US off tank

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If you read reddits

drowsy loom
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It's different playstyles tho

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TT had a more agressive D.Va, and dive had a more passive dva

pine star
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Wasn't Hafficool the one playing D.Va during the tank meta?

drowsy loom
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Sulli what did u use to make that?

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looks dope

pine star
#

Nova Launcher + Zooper Widget Pro + a wallpaper I got from Twitter

drowsy loom
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πŸ‘Œ

blazing parrot
pine star
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They keep doing it NotLikeSoldier

grizzled mulch
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@pine star he was a flex

scarlet spear
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i mean

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shouldnt they know better from all the people taking a shit on LA valiant?

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for posting those kind of announcements after the first one was eh

pine star
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I know, but I'm still pretty certain Haffi played D.Va most of the time

grizzled mulch
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Back when IDDQD was in

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He was a purer off tank

pine star
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Ah yeah

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I thought you meant during the tank meta

grizzled mulch
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I did said "previous meta"

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Anyway, he is a good, hard working and consistent player, which is good for a role such as offtank

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But Zunba > Coolmatt

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If only because APEX > Contenders

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So flame saying that Muma/Coolmatt > Zunba/Miro is GWfroggyThink

drowsy loom
#

I mean that's his opinion

pine star
#

Is Flame high?

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I like both Muma and Coolmatt

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But in no universe are they better than Miro and Zunba

drowsy loom
#

Muma has a better rein right?

pine star
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I don't even think so

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If anything, Miro's Rein seems lackluster by the standard set by his own Winston

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But not for being actually bad

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I still think Miro's Rein > Muma's

grizzled mulch
#

Muma's Rein got shit on by Fate of all people.

blazing parrot
#

yep

pine star
#

Tbf, Fate is really fucking good

blazing parrot
#

also recry is joniing meta athena as flex dps

pine star
#

But yeah

blazing parrot
grizzled mulch
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People needed to remember that Bani/Boink/Muma was a part of Gale Force

blazing parrot
#

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grizzled mulch
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And they were not good

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People are taking in the result of 1.14 too highly

pine star
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Can't blame Flame for hyping up his players

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But saying that they're better than Dynasty's tank line is XD

wintry matrix
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miro not's looking hot lately tho

blazing parrot
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agaisnt busan but other matches he performed fine

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pine star
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Miro is underperforming against top Apex teams, he must surely suck /s

clever portal
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Recry to Meta

wintry matrix
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not saying he's worse, or agreeing with flame

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just after reading about how he was figured out

blazing parrot
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@clever portal 🐒

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literally scroll up lol

clever portal
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Your's is completely in Korean GrandpaRage

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Mine is the official twitter

blazing parrot
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🐒

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have something against korean reek?

pine star
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🐒

blazing parrot
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also eh busan figured him out but other teams still havent

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and its not like alwaysoov is going to let miro stagnate here

clever portal
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Busan taimouGACHI

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God team

blazing parrot
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their coach is fantastic

wintry matrix
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i meant as in, he spoke like miro style was very predictable (methodical), and LH was more relying on just "outclassing"

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or something like that

blazing parrot
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predictable vs actually countering him effectively

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only busan was able to do it after just practicing hours on just one map

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i do think miro needs to improve and change

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but to say coolmatt/muma is better than zunba/miro is hilarious

mild peak
#

Countering Miro was more about knowing his tendencies when certain conditions are met. Like the bridge boop after ulting to get back.

blazing parrot
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which they practiced for hours

wintry matrix
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MVP Space

pine star
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That reminds me of Shadowburn in last year's WC

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Yeah, you know what he does

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Can you counter him tho?

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My bet is most won't

wintry matrix
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well, rn he isn't the uncontested best genji tho

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last year was aslo very different

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with nanon blade every fight

pine star
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I said that reminded me

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In comparison to Miro

wintry matrix
#

oh

pine star
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Yeah, teams know what Miro does

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That and actually countering him are worlds apart

pine star
clever portal
wintry matrix
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i always think it's Max Payne in this emote

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like, in the first game

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maybe bcause they're both finnish

solid spear
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Smh

wintry matrix
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tell me those aren't the same person

solid spear
pine star
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Max Paymou

vestal mortar
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Jaysus the PlayOverwatch youtube uploaded all the world cup games from Blizzcon. Hurrah for esports! \o/

pine star
balmy wolf
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@wintry matrix maxresdefault?

pine star
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Sometimes I think Avast just gets a random picture from Google Images to reply to everything

carmine valley
red anvil
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got gif read for next apex season πŸ˜‰

vestal mortar
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LMAO

pine star
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Wtf did I just saw WutFace

clever portal
spring lintel
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Lol mykl is tilited as fuck on stream

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Fighting with a girl

red anvil
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She's trolling him so hard

wintry matrix
#

never forget

spring lintel
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Holy shit sinatraa and babybay are talking shit to his stream rn

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Is drama allowed here?

wintry matrix
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prob

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i watched for a few secs, and it's impressive how easy is to hate sinatraa

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and that was against mykl of all people

clever portal
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This isn't reddit

spring lintel
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yeah i dont like mykl but goddamn sinatraa is such a kid

clever portal
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Post what you want

spring lintel
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but mykl played it cool

wintry matrix
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actually the mods came here a few times when we're discussing csgo finals stuff

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so i assume there's offtopic stuff

clever portal
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Yeah, but this is OW related

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They just don't want other games

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And Draw isn't mod anymore mercypls

vestal mortar
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As long as it's OW esports/pros and not other games esports I'm sure it's fine.

pastel meteor
#

Who were the grand finalists for the overwqtch world cup

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Ping me if u know

versed sinew
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not going to ping you but it was canada and sk

blazing parrot
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tfw people cant google

pastel meteor
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I cant

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I have google unistalled on my phone.

vestal mortar
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πŸ‘€

versed sinew
vocal sky
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Random question, is esca not playing with lunatic hai/Seoul anymore?

pine star
#

tfw you realize just now that Draw isn't a mod anymore

clever portal
#

Esca and LTJ are apparently on the Seoul teams PUBG team now

knotty flower
#

Should I watch France vs sweden or France vs china

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Which was the better game

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No spoilers

grizzled mulch
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Fr vs Cn

knotty flower
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Alright

blazing parrot
#
#

kdp coach_blue caught boosting?

wintry matrix
#

ptr pro pugs

blazing parrot
balmy wolf
versed sinew
limpid estuary
#

So based on players, what teams for the OWL look the most promising?

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I am guessing one of the South Korean teams? Dynasty, NYXL or London?

wintry matrix
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the easy answers are dallas, London and seoul and ny too

limpid estuary
#

How good is Houston? I still love their colours and logo the most.

wintry matrix
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i'm not very knowledgeable, but i dunno

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they sure are promising

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prob the most promising team aside from the ones i cited above

forest raven
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houston looks very promising

limpid estuary
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Neat

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If they release team skins, I might just support those two.

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Dynasty and Houston.

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If its all just physical gear though...

gentle jetty
#

I think Dallas is alright (clearly) but dynasty is so good

red anvil
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they are gone release skins @limpid estuary that is confirmed, they just dont appear to be very sure about how yet

limpid estuary
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I hope it is reasonable enough to support multiple teams

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Otherwise Im just gonna have to choose between green and gold

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Coinflip it

red anvil
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houston is an extremely na based marketable team with big talent

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dynasty is just top tier accross the board

stuck vessel
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calvin just mentioned some OW scene drama but isn't talking about it

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anyone know what it is?

mild peak
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Uh, unsavory stuff about an OW streamer.

subtle fable
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@blazing parrot he was wnv coach, and now kd coach recently

glacial sleet
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hi

balmy wolf
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kay

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what is the whole kephrii drama about?

glacial sleet
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check this

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basically he was sexting with fans, someone leaked his convos

balmy wolf
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that's it?

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that's what this drama is about

glacial sleet
#

yes

balmy wolf
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thought it would be more interesting

glacial sleet
#

he apologized on twitter and that's it

#

and many other pros were bagging on him on twitter

balmy wolf
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i just unmutted this channel for nothing more than some dude getting caught sexting.

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:L

glacial sleet
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why would you mute this channel

balmy wolf
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not that big fan of esports

vivid solar
#

The real question is why would you continue talking about it when you were explictly told to stop

glacial sleet
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uh because this is esports drama in esports discussion channel

balmy wolf
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I just wanted to know what happened that's all.

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I don't want to discuss it lol

red anvil
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The reason why its an issue is because one of the fans apperently was 16

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And he got a wife

limpid estuary
#

Serious discussion strictly related to Esports

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This is not Esports

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This is gossip drama

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Take that shit out of this server

ruby canopy
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There seems to be an official thread for it on r/cow

limpid estuary
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I dont care.

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Its not esports

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Its not Overwatch

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Its just drama

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Out

glacial sleet
#

wtf is cow

ruby canopy
#

r/competitiveoverwatch

limpid estuary
#

competitive overwatch

ruby canopy
#

also if you're not gonna allow drama it seems like there would be a "no drama" rule

red anvil
#

To be fair, he is a former pro

ivory flame
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U guys are digging a huge hole

limpid estuary
#

Moving swiftly onwards.

glacial sleet
#

this is serious

#

this is creme of the crop

spring lintel
#

Jewvia is jelly

balmy wolf
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lol, i am not gonna get in the middle of this.

spring lintel
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He played in many lans

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Tried 200mg of adderall

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He is the 8 inch

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The one and only

glacial sleet
#

ye

limpid estuary
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@spring lintel I said Moving swiftly onwards.

glacial sleet
#

this is serious esports discussion

spring lintel
#

Ok

iron mauve
#

Has this been discussed yet?

red anvil
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think so, anyhow he got fired

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he got nothing to do with OWL anymore

pine star
#

Is there a statement somewhere saying specifically that team uniforms will be available for in-game purchase?

#

I mean, I know they will

#

I just can't find anywhere anything that specifically says it

clever portal
#

I don't know about any new stuff

forest raven
#

nate said during the owl presentation at blizzcon they're working on implementing them @pine star

pine star
#

Actually he said they're working on a way for us to support our favorite teams

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He never specifically said skins

forest raven
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heavily implied, then

pine star
#

That's my point

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It's never actually been said we can get the skins

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Or I just can't found where it was said

clever portal
#

I don't think they'll be free like many people thing

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Imagine the flood of skins

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Maybe OWL event?

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With OWL lootboxes

pine star
#

I don't think lootboxes are the way to go

#

Those are to support the teams

#

What if I get skins from a team I don't like?

#

Is revenue also randomly distributed?

red anvil
#

They said it yeah

#

in the initial announcement said you will be able to support your teams with purchasing there skins and sprays

#

also half the revenue goes to the team if i recall correctly

#

so i assume there will be team lootboxes or some shit

scarlet spear
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1 guaranteed team item, and useless standart 2 grey 1 blue πŸ€”

red anvil
#

i mean that is completely viable now, especially if i assume correctly and you will obtain lootboxes from watching matches

#

30 lootboxes ish you got everything from your team

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which i find somewhat reasonable

scarlet spear
#

doesnt sound too bad

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wouldn't mind if they'd sell them as kind of support boxes for their team aswell, as in one time purchase for certain skins/avatars/sprays something like that

red anvil
#

if my assumption about the lootboxes are correct, i will instantly buy all dynasty stuffs

#

the color scheme is so amazing

scarlet spear
#

dynasty is sick yeah

#

black/gold just always works

balmy wolf
#

anyone have any good minecraft server

rancid cradle
#

have we discussed kephrii already?

final thistle
#

What about him

rancid cradle
scarlet spear
#

afaik mods said no to that discussion

rancid cradle
#

ohlol

#

mybad

gusty cipher
#

and thats not... esports anyway

#

also i really hope no lootbox bs for the team support

left fog
#

Maybe they'll direct sell them + have a box you can buy to get a random team skin

modest garnet
#

Is it to late to start with OW now and get into the eSports leagues?

pine star
#

I don't mind boxes if you can buy team specific loot boxes with at least one guaranteed skin

#

@modest garnet it's not easy

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You have to grind for months and, most importantly, get noticed

jagged crater
#

Never too late

modest garnet
#

If I'm already a semi pro in R6

pine star
#

But if you're really set into getting there, go for it

modest garnet
#

Yeah boy

jagged crater
#

yaa bwoii

pine star
#

Stream a lot, make a lot of content, grind scrims, get into T2 tourneys, open division, etc

modest garnet
#

What's preferred controller or keyboard (I'm a massive noob lol

jagged crater
#

Keyboard

#

All the major tournaments are pc version

clear vale
#

Why is zombs not on a team

blazing parrot
#

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/overwatch/4538/3504673?my=chu

Saebyoelbe: For World Cup preparation, I watched Logix from EU to improve my tracer performance
Flower: I practiced alot of Genji to improve my Genji performance
Mano: I just tried to improve my focusing and mentality because I have hard times doing that sometimes
IF THESE GUYS CAN DO IT YOU CAN DO IT TOO

jagged crater
#

Sbb looking up to logix oh gosh

mild peak
#

Kyo coming through with the inspiration

jagged crater
#

I'm sure most pros analyze other pros to learn from them too

#

For some reason I never see Western players admit to this, only Koreans

gusty cipher
#

dunno whats there to admit

jagged crater
#

Like mentioning a specific player that influenced your playstyle

gusty cipher
#

that changes every now and then

blazing parrot
#

i just find it cool that sbb looks at logix for inspiration

gusty cipher
#

so from that logic

#

logix > sinatraa

#

i can live with that

jagged crater
#

Lots sinatraa hate lately

pine star
#

That VOD of him talking about Saebyeolbe was pretty petty tbh

gusty cipher
#

lately?

blazing parrot
#

idgaf about sinatraa

jagged crater
#

Moreso now than before

gusty cipher
#

he always was under fire for being a prick, its just there werent many to compare him to

blazing parrot
#

the only people im supporting on SF shock is sleepy and iddqd

#

i dont like anyone else

#

:>

vestal mortar
#

Did he complain about SBB? SBB is so nice :C

blazing parrot
#

yeah

#

he said sbb isnt good as him

jagged crater
#

Iddqd has had some iffy things in the past

blazing parrot
#

just got harmony orb the whole time

#

lol

vestal mortar
#

smh

gusty cipher
#

you can be a total prick if you can back it up

#

IF

blazing parrot
#

:>

gusty cipher
#

8 inches of adderall

pine star
#

I mean, you can say what he said without sounding like a petty asshole

blazing parrot
gusty cipher
#

well, being an asshole as in "the villain" is ok

blazing parrot
#

dafran

gusty cipher
#

but calling shit and not being able to back it up

#

welp

blazing parrot
#

sinatraa is just boring and imo overhyped

#

yeah hes good

#

but not amazing

gusty cipher
#

good in na widowlol

blazing parrot
#

classic douchey teen

mild peak
#

NA has to have someone they can prop up

gusty cipher
#

na had envy (cough eu)

#

and now even flower is on ny

blazing parrot
#

envy is na kek

vestal mortar
#

🐯

mild peak
#

Envy is most NA team because they're accepting of all nationalities to produce a better team zaryalol

gusty cipher
#

euvyus

#

too bad we dallas fuel now

blazing parrot
gusty cipher
#

oh look london is now a korean city

pine star
#

@BostonUprising garbage

gusty cipher
#

lul

jagged crater
#

can you say the same for dafran even he hasn't truly proven himself vs koreans on LAN?

blazing parrot
#

what about dafran?

jagged crater
#

whoops

#

is sinatraa still overhyped anymore now that r/cow is totally against him?

#

dont think anyone besides hardcore fanboys would put sin as a top top tracer nowwadays

#

also so much spicy drama before the start of OWL, it's an interesting time

#

also kvo wtf @ that avatar omg

#

that's ridiculous

#

almost as smug as mercy

blazing parrot
#

haha thank you kyoH

#

i think sinatraa has always been overhyped

#

like no doubt hes really good

scarlet spear
#

^

blazing parrot
#

especially on zarya and tracer

#

but

#

like until he proves himself in tourneys i think he will be overhyped

#

on selfless his zarya was sureGasm

#

but i dunno i think hes got a lot to prove for himself

#

being good in the ladder doesnt translate into pro play

scarlet spear
#

same thing i've been thinking since his signing... hes doing well on ladder but hes not been in any kind of tourney for a while and hasnt proven himself against other top tier teams

#

OWL is going to be great, cant wait

blazing parrot
#

i agree

#

my top are seoul, london, nyc, dallas, valiant and gladiators

#

:>

#

im very owo about the shanghai team as well

gusty cipher
#

eh china

blazing parrot
#

really unfortunate that the wc players couldnt get a visa

scarlet spear
#

what team was shanghai made out of again? MY?

blazing parrot
#

only two of them were from MY i believe

#

leave and zhufanjun

scarlet spear
#

looks like actually none

blazing parrot
#

?????????

scarlet spear
#

most of shanghai dragons is from LGD apparently

blazing parrot
#

oh i thought you were talking about china world cup

#

facepalm

#

my bad moon2TEEHEE

scarlet spear
#

oh haha πŸ˜„ no worries

#

yeah that was sad they couldnt get visa's, real shame

blazing parrot
#

and in other news birdring has been playing Getting over it for 5 hours

#

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β–Ά Play video
#

warning sound volume

scarlet spear
#

that game seems to be breaking people for real

#

the real face of despair

gusty herald
#

#BurnBlue

blazing parrot
vestal mortar
blazing parrot
#

internethulk has passed away

final thistle
#

Sad

civic marsh
#

wtf

#

that's awful... rip

cinder wind
#

Who down for comp gold silver

#

My psn os casa-hm05 add me

pine star
#

wtf

#

This is real

#

I can't believe it

scarlet mauve
#

f

spring lintel
#

Rip

warm jackal
#

f

quasi python
#

RIP.....

blazing parrot
worthy forge
#

damn.... how did he pass away?

forest raven
#

We don't know

#

Don't speculate

pine star
#

This would be so cool

jagged crater
#

WHAT

#

I cant believe this

#

I used to follow internethulk's twitter and stream. This is a huge shock to me.

#

RIP, such a nice dude

drifting void
#

wtf I'm so sad to hear that

forest raven
jagged crater
#

Rewatching this vid made me tear up a bit for real

short vault
#

GUYS

#

WTF

#

INTERNETHULK DIED HOW

#

30 years old?????????????????

#

:(((((

jagged crater
#

too young

#

and just a year ago, he achieved his dream

short vault
#

what did he die from

#

at

#

fuckign 30

jagged crater
#

not 100% sure

short vault
#

what even killed him

jagged crater
#

people thoerizing tonsillitis, which is weird

short vault
#

i cant believe this is real

blazing parrot
#

Please No Speculation.

broken fog
#

I have no idea.

#

I am shocked

last lantern
formal topaz
#

RIP INTERNETHULK

brisk folio
#

can't believe he passed

#

is there any news on how he did?

#

not to be rude

limber pine
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nope

brisk folio
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kephrii drama and now this dude

jagged current
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i know right? with all the scandals with OW pro players being crappy, it's especially upsetting to hear a good one has passed

brisk folio
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exactly, sad to see a great man go :/

broken fog
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Feelsb... I don't think this is not good to use

knotty acorn
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I discussed this earlier in COW, would love to see there be a trophy in OWL named after him for being a community ambassador.

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Like our equivalent of NHL's Lady Byug or MLB's Roberto Clemente award

balmy wolf
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RIP Internethulk

clever portal
vestal mortar
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InternetHulk was a great guy, always so passionate and driven. He was an inspiration to so many people in the infancy of our esports scene and he's made a lasting impression. ❀

fierce wadi
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Wtf I cant believe that he died.. a huge loss to the whole OW community, rest in peace big guy :(

real forge
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oh man...

scarlet spear
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such a sad morning.. 😦

balmy wolf
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It's just so early for a person to die. He was robbed of living his life at least once again, if not twice. All this doe is reminding me that nothing is fair. What a great guy. He will be definitely remembered! Ruhe in Frieden, Junge!

minor wigeon
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This is teh esports channel

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waaow

red anvil
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@minor wigeon 1. dont be spamming 2. dont be disrespectful, this is a sad day for the ow esport community.

minor wigeon
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what happened?

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@red anvil

red anvil
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A guy within the esport community, internethulk (he put together one current best ow teams atm) died of illness

stone crown
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He did more than just put together the best team as far as I know

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but its so sad, RIP ❀

red anvil
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he did way more

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but that was just an example of how important this guy was

minor wigeon
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very sad

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his name is

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internethulk?

stone crown
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yeah thats him

minor wigeon
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you knew him?

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you're his friends?

stone crown
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I dont know im personally, but he did a lot for overwatch esports

minor wigeon
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Poor him

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Ripperoni

balmy wolf
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'The best team'

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Ok

red anvil
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Did i say the best?

pine star
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Ronan did

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But I don't see a point in making an argument about that in this particular moment tbh

blazing parrot
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lel

safe orbit
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Internethulk is dead?!

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Team liquid is my fav team

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Sad

balmy wolf
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Rest in Peace Hulk :(

carmine pumice
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Hulks playing esports in heaven now.

safe orbit
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I'll remember him as a great coach...FeelsLucio

worthy forge
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i heard Mercy is meta in heaven

limber pine
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PTR changes should be fun, but we won't have a tournament to test them on until the OWL Preseason

vestal mortar
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Maybe Blizz will sit in on a few scrimming sessions coming up to the pre-season

daring oriole
clever portal
fervent hazel
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i got blocked by kephrii on twitter fedoraboi

limber pine
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Cool story

balmy wolf
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whats this whole thing about internethulk

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everyone keeps saying he made a huge impact on ow esports

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but what did he do

grizzled mulch
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founder of the Fuel roster

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coach of Team Liquid

elder sail
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how'd he die? D:

drowsy loom
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Led envy to become the first western team to win a tournament on Korean soil (apex S1 champions)

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He founded the talent that became envy

supple nymph
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starting in 5 minutes

gentle jetty
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@elder sail an illness, I don't know the exact one though

elder sail
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Damn.

grizzled mulch
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my team scrimming vs Fahzix now

balmy wolf
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Hulk took Taimou from support and made him dps @balmy wolf

kindred brook
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This is fantastic stuff

mild peak
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the mic NotLikeSoldier

unkempt meadow
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Just heard the news about InternetHulk. Such a sad day... you were a great influence on this community. RIP to an amazing legend ❀

balmy wolf
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tonsilitis @elder sail

clever portal
limber pine
clever portal
jagged crater
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Hulk's passing is so surreal. I tuned to his stream pretty often to watch him, and saw a bit of his personality. In some ways felt like I knew him (his public image at least) so this impacted me more than just knowing his accomplishments in pro OW.