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wonder when EscA will leave
he's got about 3 years left before he has to go in for national service i think
26 years old.
isn't he 27
born in 91
I think he's 26 in Western age
sure
Korean age is +1
I think 35 is the max, but 30 usually afaik
yes
Maybe he should delay
I think he should delay yeah
Because gaming careers are short
Sucks for him if he has to leave in his peak
both esca and kaiser is in same situation
huh, didn't know Kaiser was 21, I always expected him to be older
but he can delay for quite a bit
yeah, I thought so as well
i'm the one he responded to there so i was super confused first lol
think we can safely write down the first season of OWL as another free win for the boys in blue

Thats what he likes to say sure
daily reminder that he still has conflict with the contracts of his former players
I thought he had to leave to deal with some contract legal stuff from the old C9 roster
yeah what wolf said
That's the official statement
It's possible that he was pressured to resign due to that stuff
yeah that thing was real quiet so no one can really say i guess
Even without that, Alicus had no place on C9 kongdoo
Alicus has said he is against signing 6 stack
what was his role again on c9 kongdoo?
meanwhile the signing period + Contenders = no time or space to trial people
He was GM at the time
he didn't even have a role in C9 Kongdoo
just C9 EU
there's a distinction there.
but it was jacks decision
I thought he was something else, not GM
people at the time really expected LK to get an OWL spot
performance wise LK isn't OWL level anyway, not with Greyy trying to blackmail everyone for shit and giggles.
and then they got acquired by C9 and then they're just kinda there now
oh yeah, those leaks
they lost a chunk of their firepower once the KRs were off the roster
and of course also Greyy being a jackass didn't help
fully expected Greyy to get blackballed tbh
They could never integrate the koreans
If it had worked out
They would have been good
IMO c9 EU could have been very good now
aKm boombox Knoxx free agents
You could build a super team
that's what i want.
uh
not quite sure about that
GC Busan might look better now
but KDP is the better choice long term
getting GC Busan now is throwing the baby out of the bath water
i was joking.
and other half of r/cow is not.
I think their motivation is slim both LH and kongdoo.
Especially kongdoo, they looks like didnt study LH game.
I wonder how busan vs runaway rematch will go.
runaway beating foxes is to be expected yeah?
2 Royal Roaders
Two Challenger teams 

Off his credit card
runner's stream money
logitech helped with computer and stuff
but yeah, runner is a pretty successful streamer
some other company donated chairs
he left the playing roster to raise funds for the team
yeup
Runners wife bought the supplies for the house
she also cleans it too 
and supports the team
all of them say their success is cause of her

what is that discount blob

yikes
A blob is a blob 

hmm
Arny dont have the cute blobs anymore 
Misfits needs an actual tank 
Gigantti played much better as the tournament progressed too
They should sign Reinforce 

reinforce seemed to keep team moral up too
and top tier team shouldent lose vs a random contenders team tho

logix seemed to be sleeping
tviq wasnt playing as good as he usually does
linkzr and davin did fantastic
@limber pine ChrisTFer noted that Misfits playstyle is very simplistic
so Gigantti were able to take advantage off of it
without the brief momentum swing back where we inexplicably playing 2 maps again
Misfits would have lose quicker
and lol @red anvil Gigantti is a super team
not so sure about that
Mineral took an inconsistent rag tag squad to final of Contenders while looked dominant during it
and also converted a Genji main to a main tank
also remember that Misfits spent a lot of time on that dumb comp in Anubis
maybe stuff like that is indication of something wrong
well, you have also to remember that competition wasn't that high
aside form 123 and Gigantti most teams had problems
People levied the same criticism against Gigantti lol. Nevermind that Gigantti has a better understanding of what to do with theirs while Misfits seemingly forgot that they has a Widow
"let us fight in place where Tviq cant prodive covering fire"

well, nV did the same comp, but it worked
like, i don't think you'd spend the time they spent in that comp if it doesn't work fast
Hey all, I'm looking to join or build a roster with the goal of winning contenders season 2. Please DM me if you are looking to do the same.
His stream got viewbotted but people got turned off because of his personality
He is not that good as a player currently tbh
really, how his personality is?
who did he play for before?
Renegades
rip renegades
and coached a team that currently is Prestige Worldwide
Right now there are better T2 off tanks than him
And lol PWW now Rocket has to dump him
In order to get good
Because he was shit at coaching
And would scream at their shotcaller
He is just not very good
what else to look forwawrd too besides apex and owl preseason in december?
he can probably go back to Renegades, with his band of brothers mykl and ajax
i'm sure he'll fit right in
You mean Kungarna
apac doesnt seem interesting tho
Prize pool is good
And decent t2 teams
It has Apex/OPC/OWPS playing against each other
Striker is KR right?
No idea who Note is
Idk how it could be worse
I guess the dps right now is good
You could pick up worse players
probably came from ATW discord
i heard striker, gamsu - boston few month ago.

@subtle fable striker is KR DPS, yes?
yes.
he was in rox with geguri
since you mentioned him the other day, what's the deal with Agape now? @subtle fable
i heard that he was coaching a foreign team a few months ago
but that was it
he coached C9?
sure
where's Bishop then?
c9 london + bishop is manager.
no one know about selly in kr. i cannot find even any rumors.
I heard he was going to a foreign team but then that was it
gamsu, striker - boston, libero - ny, fleta, wekeed - seoul, fury, nus - london heard from same guy.
i heard this too
unfortunate that nanohana cant play in s1.
when is he turning 18?
Unfortunate
So basically S1
yes.

Who are they vsing
faze vs envy.
contenders final
do you know kongdoo scandal recently?
some of them, bdosin is enemy, i saw they blame him. he got 4 kill in all game, 1 kill per map.

GC Busan just straight up pummel them tbh
Rogue performs badly but Winz got hate
same thing here
if you check today vod, when ogn introduce each player, the fans were silent at bdosin, rascal.
Oh
inb4 ilbe
sojum

yes. it's similar with flower, pine.
oh right flow3r used to say bad stuff too
flower mentioned a word that is only used on that site
monkaS
how does they find out that they are using these sites?
they say the words apparently
someone captured his gf's facebook

@subtle fable voids gf?
are we talking about boosting or the iibe websites
cause i thought we were talking about the websites
monkaS
ilbe does not appear directly
So someone got into the gfs account
Saw the PMs
And they implied he uses the websites
as i know yes.
well theres the OGN super cup coming up
is that team seoul or is that lunatic hai though?
Was it specific terms that only ilbe users use again?
alright so whoru got one more match for LH#1
im guess he is tired of overwatch
Whoru with the golden sword in minecraft
theyre still friends
friends who will be in LA for a long af. time and move to a different team house without him when they come back
I doubt whoru and flow3r will stop just cause of owl
Whoru is still on his team tho
not LH#1, at least after seoul cup
no
Until its confirmed
i will say hes not
sinatraa only signed cause he can still play in s1
so they need new dps like libero
if your becoming 18 before an X date you can be signed with a OWL contract
the rumors for now is fleta and weeknd @subtle fable
🤔
we'll see tho, they said they are getting a full 12 man roster
i heard rumor is libero for team nyc
fleta wekeed ~ seoul, flower is lw - ny
we were talking about both x.x
i suspect the LTJ has returned to LH just for owl.

so if he does not sign seoul team, he'll concentrate on streamers.
i dont think he'll be active on the LH 2 team.
but whoru is not.
if team seoul signs LTJ then i will be really annoyed
Boston Tea Party 👁
flower at least is able to play for 2nd season, whoru will probably continue to grind apex for at least 2 more years
so they might bring flower with them to LA
whoru can play from s3
he's 16 this year right?
born in 2001/08
so yep ty ^^
someone exlain the anamoly that is GC Busan
sweeping LH twice and sweeping KDP like that
as fresh apex challengers
Is this game just too meta reliant?
LH and KDP seemed particularly weaker due to the newer meta
LH in slump, apparently c9 just didn't react in time to GC style (i didn't watch it)
plus people already were saying that GC would be one of the strongest teams in the patch apex is playing
Challengers revolt was every season. the meta of s2, x6 of s3, nc & gc of s4.
how much time do GC players have to get signed for an OWL team?
like some of them are certainly deserving, esp profit
guess this is why a tier 2 scene is absolutely important
because OWL teams won't necessarily have the best players
it would be too premature to sign them just off a few victories
which is stupid, you expect 20 mil spots to have the best players in them
not necessarily
not all of them
like in everything, much of esports is done by networking
some will be crap
so, lots of times who has the most connections will be on a team
that's what winz talked about
also have to factor stuff like team synergy and petty egos
applies to other real world stuff too, which is tru
salary cap prevents a team from having the best players in every role
i'd say the people who bought a spot have more than enough money for that
tfw I read a mention from @blazing parrot about Jehong's balls at work

@vestal mortar 👀
all aboard the GC Busan bandwagon
Runaway bandwagon
👀
@vestal mortar 👀
i was on the runaway bandwagon when haksal made his debut
my friends in the LH fan dsicord
😮
apparently they have a channel for fans to spazz out on players
she opened it to that @vestal mortar
👀
👀
Oh my
only in south korea where fans have unusual lust for esports players
only in south korea where fans have unusual lust for esports players popular people
nah that applies to every where
i dont know any fan in NA that sends used shit to their idol

pls, I lust after pros too
people have sent potatoes to NBA players, weird shit happens
@toxic yacht gay
no u
does anti fans send you a shipment of cucumbers
what team is rising up the next meta who knows
biological material have been sent to people on some occasions
some rando group of korean GM / top 500 nobodies sweep gc busan next season, heard it here first
[Team that is yet to arise] bandwagon
the only team they lost to
but that was early in groups right?
might've learned something, adjusted, warmed up to "apex" atmosphere, who knows
WHY
should've been like 5 OWL teams in korea
having korean rosters in "western" teams seem weird
not weirder than 5 europeans, 1 korean and 1 USA in dallas
nah that's ok
that 1 USA is enough
just so happens it's seagull, the most popular player in OW
1 thai too
1 lovable thai player
still a 90% not american team in dallas
im talkin 100%
i guess, but still very different in their own ways
there's even the rivalry of EU x NA
like imagine Washington Bumfucks housing a full korean roster, that would be weird af
It happens in sports in weaker regions
For example the premier league imports a lot of players in England
Because local talent is like NA talent in overwatch
esports baby
i wouldn't say that the talent is bad in england
is just that these teams are ran by people with so much money they can just import the best from anywhere
like Paris Sain German and Real Madrid
talkin bout soccer? shieet dont know anythin botu that :p
Yo is gc busan like the new lunatic hai
Nah
Don't feel offended Wolf, but what's your view on busan's success?
Because you don't seem at all surprised about their recent achievements

not long term proven
Meta Athena was lauded at one of the best team in the world in their breakout season
and where they are at right now?
understandable
But wasn't Runaway in a similar if not higher position than Meta Athena? They both found amazing success in Season 2, but MA is not looking that great and Runaway is set for another semifinal
because one evolved and one doesn't
Meta is known for their quirky strats
but stripped that away from them
what do you have?
just another KR team with high mechanical DPS
even in their wins they didn't look like they won
I don't think that Busan relied on quirky strats, just overall skill from the entire team
Im not trying to argue that MA is a top tier team, I just believe that the hype for GC Busan is not unwarranted
that paragraph above was for MA....
as far as Busan goes, they needs more seasonings
if they win this season's APEX and able to do well next season, then let's talk about them being real
I mean after this season, the biggest players would be Busan, Runaway, Foxes, maybe AF Blue and Maybe LW Red
are any of those teams on the level of KDP and LH?
I think that overall APEX S5 will be more competitive, but teams won't be competiting against the "best of the best". So this is really the best chance that a non-OWL korean team can prove themselves against OWL rosters
their threats are not going to come from the established, unless the established evolves further. The upstart challengers are going to be the key test.
and mind you, none of the LH and K9 roster is OWL-finalized just yet
with rumors of various players adding to the bench
it will add another element to consider
yeah, but all of LH (minus Whoru and LTJ) are confirmed for Seoul, and K9 is I think confirmed for OWL
LH are getting a couple more additions, same as K9
what we are seeing right now is just their minimal form.
I love the new Mei skin
nice
rez me
Did I just see merr emotes


Completely off topic but her singing

Also LH? Hello. I really dont think they are that good.
Atleast as much as people have talked them up till recently
No no no. Still one of the best overwatch teams
But I feel like this was good for them. They will come back much much much stronger
Teams adapted to their strategy
they need to try something new
Individually theyre all still monsters but as a team they need something new
Agreed
They need a new tracer tho? Also a new soldier if ESCA is gonna be on the bench all the time.
Miro needs something new
Ryuje cant play mercy (LOL)
dps needs to branch out
theres a lot they need to work on
Mercy 
a new team
Why are they so good??
because their coach prepared good strats to dismantle LH and KDP imo
they werent as good vs runaway
So they're like a counter team?
Counter team is a good way to put it
Profit dominated both birdring and gido
but yea they know and practiced how to dismantle lh and kdp
That's cool
the coach said they practiced for hours to shut down miro
cause they watched the vods and saw miro's tactics
and found a way to effectively shut him down
They even managed to tilt miro 
I gotta see this
not suprising
Hooreg is pretty beastly too tho
Even though there's only 1 match left for them lol
My boi haksal 🙏
put him on lucio again
Is it true Runner doesn't play for them anymore?

he doesnt
hes their coach
and sponsor
using his stream money
runner hasnt played for a while
Yo man Runner
👀
Runner = good guy :')
Gotta respect him
him and his wife do so much for their team
That's actually nice to hear after all these orgs fucking players with their contracts

You can't buy passion
So na C9 got released but no tweet from surefour 🤔
Hope so, it'd be a shame otherwise
mmh
???
I want to see my bois from rogue get picked up :( my favorite team since they were a team

Oh
Soon and unkoe got picked up right?
I was thinking about Talespin LOL
Surefour is popular so
I wonder how many REU players will get teams
From Faze SDB, Rawkus and Capre are pretty much guarenteed spots I think
They are too good
Lmao fuck talespin
Who is buying out my boi dafran from McDonald's is the real question
no one
I will argue to this date
Because he misbehaves?
Dps as a whole. Sure there are others
taimou
Not better than dafran.
surefour
Saya player comes close.
Yeah, but those other hitscans can play other heroes on an equally high level as their own Soldier
The others are a league below for sure
Dafran barely had any
sayaplayer is way better than dafran lmao
Must be high IQ emotes from year 2912
Gankyou >_>
What
Akm
🤔
Good evening
Hi
None of their solider is better than dafran :(
akm
Akm is a God yes.
You still shouldn't one trick
But not better than dafran
akm is better than dafran
Dafran wasn't a one trick. Sinatraa even talks about how dafran tracer is scary
You're still not denying that Dafran doesn't have any other hero that he plays on the same level as his Soldier
He never got to play it for selfless tho
:(
Sinatraa's Tracer is better on every aspect
Boolies
internet baby
Mechanical aim Dafran may win but not Tracer blinks, positions, dive etc
:(
ngl
Hater
You're detracting from my point that Dafran doesn't have any other hero on his Soldier's level
That's cuz his soldier is at such an insane level.
He can definitely play genji tracer in a tourney level
How come we don't see it often if that's the case though
Cuz he never got to play much besides that for selfless
I mean like, not even a third of his S76 time on tourneys
Emongg is a classic example
He learned hog in scrims
He was never a hog player
But selfless was a one comp kinda team
So now people always think emongg is a one trick hog
I don't
I dont know how emongg comes into dafran not actually being good
lol
No no I was just proving a point cuz he said how come we didnt see his other heroes in tourneys
Selfless being a one comp still doesn't prove anything about Dafran's hero pool

@lucid juniper 
Mickie
Surefour is...
I mean, most of the current OWL teams already have some that we'd pick over him
How many rosters are even known? Like 3?
So current meta is a tracer one trick with the other dps being a complete dps
London im still iffy on
Seoul
someone called me?
@lucid juniper 
Immortals?
dont know the finalized roster
LA
watup
No agilities?
no one knows rn
MonkaS
Aren't coolmatt and muma signed to them
I will be really dissapointed if Optic just signed FNRGFE
thats rumored rad
ESPN?
yes
Am I being Jebaited
maybe
Interesting
lmao
umi 
I wouldn't be surprised if Coolmatt and Muma were brought in, but the entire roster doesn't seem like an amazing choice
Imagine the OWL trailer but instead of Krusher it's coolmatt69
Who is krusher... Did I miss something g
hes a meme
from
long time ago
i think he said something like he would reach rank 1 or 1v1 all the pros and win?
krusher99 is the name of the fake player from the original OWL traiker
Pretty sure Blizzard took the old video down, but this is the OWL introduction trailer featuring Krusher99 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sje3GuTGtqU
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confirmed for OWL Los Angeles team but which one 🤔
Actually a great post https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/75nvef/reasons_behind_taimous_strange_hero_pool/
Wrote about the Contenders Champions this week, let me know what y'all think!
what is apex tick rate?
144
I wonder how old the oldest pro is
i know Hulk is 30, Runner is 29/30
talespin is also 29
tho he hasn't been active for a while
Yeah I think so
hope so
what did hyped play again?
offtank
Imt full roster annoucement week of october 24 👀
it's weird that they would boot hyped considering there's only the korean off-tank now
Yes, Envy would be off tank full time now. Unless they're doing something with numlocked.
What does Numlocked offer over Fate? 
what team is sinatraa on
NRG Overwatch San Francisco
can OWL start already 
Should we #AMPITUP and increase the frequency of our podcast to weeklies instead of biweeklies?
This is IMT LA 👀
Yes bb
@magic sentinel #lf-players-na
my guesses would either be a lucio or a off-tank
considering seagull doesn't appear to be flexing into full-offtank (he said his dva was pretty bad and did not train on her)
tl;dr : enhancements to their Roster on 10.15th
thanks han
Winz 
And he cannot Play Flex Supp
i want custa or kruise
Morte and custa can Play every single Supp
I think its custa just because i think he has visa
I dont think theyll pick up another support because they already have chips
tbh
who knows will be interesting tho
@subtle fable rumors are LTJ is going to be on team seoul?
nothing. we'll be able to check on the 15th.
It could be roolf Too
i'd said lucio because they could want to run a comp with harry on soldier, but still with 2 supps
when harry goes soldier, is always on 4 dps or sombra comps
and taimou isn't a good on soldier has harry is
another main tank is also possible, coccos genji is apperently really sweet
and so far none of the other players seems to playing lucio
no winz please
does winz shotcalls?
by french?
seagull can play lucio
either shotcalling in matches, or planning beforehand
iirc winz and knoxx did most of the strategy/analysis for games
seagull played lucio a few times in a stream, but i'm not sure if he would go for pro level
but it's a possibility
apparently seagull played his frog account a lot off stream and was like 4.3k or something, so maybe
he said he's bad on dva, and didn't train on her
he played her there because nV was kinda lost because they didn't train Route 66 point 2 and 3 defense

Btw on that pic above
Showing the rosters of teams that went to apex
Why are reinforce and Nevix not an option
different nationality from current?
Ah, thanks
Cocco is swedish
Back to season 1 boys
🚋
xqc's side of it
i thought swapping and then rezzing didnt work ? new bug with latest patch ?
probably
Stitch
Haksal
Bumper
TiZi
Kox
JJanu
1277 51 21 23
1095 44 19 18
1065 11 17 15
998 25 22 18
996 16 29 21
901 23 20 16
Sasin
Pumple
SeoMinSoo
Hyeok
E1kiNo
Neko
Ria
1144 33 24 21
965 29 28 14
895 20 16 17
892 7 23 10
874 33 34 15
750 6 37 18
515 0 8 7
Stitch/Tracer: 1310 Rating
Stitch as Tracer on Dorado: 4 Kills
gc busan vs runaway finals here we go
would be a bit pog champ if 2 of the challenger teams ended up in the finals
but this is a super hype match since RA won last time
what was ria playing that got 0 kills and more deaths than ults
He played one map
Dorado
D.va @limber pine
WL also only counts kills as final blows
makes sense
do the mechs deaths count as deaths
or just pilot deaths
in this infograph
neato
The last 2 teams for APAC 2017 have been announced! It's GC Busan and Runaway! Going to be such a hype tournament!
Hopefully EnVision makes playoffs
EnVision needs to beat 2 out of Flash Wolves, MVP Space, and Vici Gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn7mhYDrMsI&feature=youtu.be (saved people sometime with this shorter version of contenders finals, hope you guys enjoy!)
I shortened the $100,000 Contenders Grand Finals Season 1 FULL EnvyUs vs Faze Clan (NA) Contenders Video and took out all the boring in-between scenes of pla...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/765m4d/dafran_back_on_the_eu_servers/dobhw21/
Brad confirmed Dafran back
Did someone just say Dafran? 👀

Glad the best player in the game is back
And the most entertaining
I still remember his beautiful words, “i dont care about my rank since its just a rank” when he was playing Hanzo
Somewhere along those lines
@vocal sky Dads back
LEGIT???

👀
Hypergachi
The Dafran AMA thread on reddit was NOT by Dafran himself. His Reddit account was hacked and he no longer has access to it.
i already hate him
oreo got his dad's password
he didn't log out of his reddit account
so oreo snuck to his pc and made an ama
lmao
At Blizz HQ with @ggdoa, @MattMrX, @MLGPuckett, and @UberShouts to check out new spec mode.
Looks damn good.

hawt
Play fantasy OW and bet on games at EsportsPools: http://esportspools.com/thorin-esp Michaël "winz" Bignet, UT2004 and Quake 4 1v1 champion and Lucio player ...
No thanks
^
Very good interview


Surefour just said on stream he hasn't played Tracer for 2 weeks
Only McCree, Widow and 76
👀
ready for bench
Or he's been signed as a non-tracer dps
.@FortniteGame is so fun. Any chance this game will have a competitive scene ?
r/overwatch is the most trash tier casual shitfest I've ever seen from an esports sub
347
He gets called out for it too
Talk about esports casuals 
Is that for OWL? looks ugly af
It's Drawe's birthday 
@forest raven happy birthday my friend 
Finally got around to actually watching NV vs Faze
What'd you think
This Hollywood game is
, quite literally
Taimou you mofo
That analysis from reddit has a point
Fctfctn monkey rage to Taimou while the rest of NV are casually picking Faze off screen
S4 himself has said he wants to play with a tracer player and then he can flex onto whatever the team needs at the time
@last lantern Where'd he say that
prob on stresm today




















