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edgy remnant
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yea

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wonder when EscA will leave

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he's got about 3 years left before he has to go in for national service i think

subtle fable
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26 years old.

edgy remnant
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isn't he 27

subtle fable
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born in 91

edgy remnant
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I think he's 26 in Western age

subtle fable
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sure

edgy remnant
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Korean age is +1

subtle fable
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yes!

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27 in korean.

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he can delay until age 31? 32?

edgy remnant
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I think 35 is the max, but 30 usually afaik

subtle fable
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yes

clever portal
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Maybe he should delay

edgy remnant
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I think he should delay yeah

clever portal
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Because gaming careers are short

edgy remnant
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Sucks for him if he has to leave in his peak

red anvil
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both esca and kaiser is in same situation

edgy remnant
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huh, didn't know Kaiser was 21, I always expected him to be older

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but he can delay for quite a bit

red anvil
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oh i thought he was older as well

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i just knew he dident have the military course

red anvil
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no Clavin is american

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half korean

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it was just a bad/missleading sentence

edgy remnant
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yeah, I thought so as well

red anvil
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i'm the one he responded to there so i was super confused first lol

clever portal
red anvil
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Alicus knew all along

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he saw KDP getting signed and ran off

blazing parrot
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what?

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He didnt run off he got cut

red anvil
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no he dident

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he left on his own accord

blazing parrot
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Thats what he likes to say sure

grizzled mulch
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daily reminder that he still has conflict with the contracts of his former players

blazing parrot
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alicus seems like the guy whos like "you cant fire me if i quit"

edgy remnant
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I thought he had to leave to deal with some contract legal stuff from the old C9 roster

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yeah what wolf said

clever portal
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That's the official statement

edgy remnant
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It's possible that he was pressured to resign due to that stuff

red anvil
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we dont know what that conflict is

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it's not a lawsuit

edgy remnant
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yeah that thing was real quiet so no one can really say i guess

clever portal
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Even without that, Alicus had no place on C9 kongdoo

grizzled mulch
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Alicus has said he is against signing 6 stack

edgy remnant
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what was his role again on c9 kongdoo?

grizzled mulch
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meanwhile the signing period + Contenders = no time or space to trial people

red anvil
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He was GM at the time

grizzled mulch
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he didn't even have a role in C9 Kongdoo

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just C9 EU

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there's a distinction there.

red anvil
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but it was jacks decision

edgy remnant
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I thought he was something else, not GM

grizzled mulch
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he was GM

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the keyword being was

edgy remnant
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people at the time really expected LK to get an OWL spot

grizzled mulch
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performance wise LK isn't OWL level anyway, not with Greyy trying to blackmail everyone for shit and giggles.

edgy remnant
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and then they got acquired by C9 and then they're just kinda there now

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oh yeah, those leaks

clever portal
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LK was good on paper

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Just played like a c9 squad in game

grizzled mulch
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they lost a chunk of their firepower once the KRs were off the roster

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and of course also Greyy being a jackass didn't help

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fully expected Greyy to get blackballed tbh

clever portal
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They could never integrate the koreans

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If it had worked out

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They would have been good

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IMO c9 EU could have been very good now

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aKm boombox Knoxx free agents

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You could build a super team

blazing parrot
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unlucky

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inb4

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kdp is cut

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and jack picks up busan

subtle fable
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that's what i want.

grizzled mulch
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uh

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not quite sure about that

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GC Busan might look better now

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but KDP is the better choice long term

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getting GC Busan now is throwing the baby out of the bath water

blazing parrot
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i was joking.

grizzled mulch
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and other half of r/cow is not.

subtle fable
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I think their motivation is slim both LH and kongdoo.

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Especially kongdoo, they looks like didnt study LH game.

blazing parrot
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I wonder how busan vs runaway rematch will go.

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runaway beating foxes is to be expected yeah?

edgy remnant
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inb4 upset

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then we'd have the strangest finals

grizzled mulch
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2 Royal Roaders

clever portal
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Two Challenger teams afrog

grizzled mulch
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I'd love to see Runaway fanboys crying after such loss

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again.

blazing parrot
clever portal
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Runaway deserve more

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I want them to win just so they get money for the house

edgy remnant
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they got a house tho

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forgot how

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they did that house tour

clever portal
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Off his credit card

blazing parrot
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runner's stream money

edgy remnant
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really?

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dang

blazing parrot
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logitech helped with computer and stuff

edgy remnant
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but yeah, runner is a pretty successful streamer

blazing parrot
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some other company donated chairs

edgy remnant
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he left the playing roster to raise funds for the team

blazing parrot
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yeup

clever portal
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Runners wife bought the supplies for the house

blazing parrot
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she also cleans it too merrCry

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and supports the team

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all of them say their success is cause of her

clever portal
edgy remnant
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what is that discount blob

clever portal
edgy remnant
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yikes

blazing parrot
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its for non nitro pleb weenies

clever portal
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A blob is a blob GWinfxGlomp

blazing parrot
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its not

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its discount blob

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fake blob

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zzzz

clever portal
grizzled mulch
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hmm

red anvil
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Arny dont have the cute blobs anymore blobWrongWay

clever portal
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Nope, all gone

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C9 should ask Misfits, how to overcome the curse

red anvil
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4-3 giganti btw

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Misfits needs to figure it out themselfs first

clever portal
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It wasn't a choke/throw though

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They were outplayed

red anvil
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Misfits needs an actual tank NotLikeSoldier

limber pine
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Gigantti played much better as the tournament progressed too

clever portal
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They should sign Reinforce afrog

red anvil
blazing parrot
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reinforce seemed to keep team moral up too

red anvil
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and top tier team shouldent lose vs a random contenders team tho

blazing parrot
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logix seemed to be sleeping

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tviq wasnt playing as good as he usually does

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linkzr and davin did fantastic

grizzled mulch
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@limber pine ChrisTFer noted that Misfits playstyle is very simplistic

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so Gigantti were able to take advantage off of it

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without the brief momentum swing back where we inexplicably playing 2 maps again

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Misfits would have lose quicker

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and lol @red anvil Gigantti is a super team

blazing parrot
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misfits needs an actual coach

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)))

grizzled mulch
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not so sure about that

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Mineral took an inconsistent rag tag squad to final of Contenders while looked dominant during it

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and also converted a Genji main to a main tank

wintry matrix
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also remember that Misfits spent a lot of time on that dumb comp in Anubis

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maybe stuff like that is indication of something wrong

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well, you have also to remember that competition wasn't that high

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aside form 123 and Gigantti most teams had problems

grizzled mulch
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People levied the same criticism against Gigantti lol. Nevermind that Gigantti has a better understanding of what to do with theirs while Misfits seemingly forgot that they has a Widow

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"let us fight in place where Tviq cant prodive covering fire"

wintry matrix
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well, nV did the same comp, but it worked

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like, i don't think you'd spend the time they spent in that comp if it doesn't work fast

rapid oxide
clever portal
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He's back as a player?

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Guessing the streaming didn't work out

wintry matrix
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he still streams

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not a lot, but still streams

grizzled mulch
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His stream got viewbotted but people got turned off because of his personality

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He is not that good as a player currently tbh

wintry matrix
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really, how his personality is?

limber pine
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who did he play for before?

wintry matrix
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Renegades

limber pine
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rip renegades

wintry matrix
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and coached a team that currently is Prestige Worldwide

grizzled mulch
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Right now there are better T2 off tanks than him

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And lol PWW now Rocket has to dump him

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In order to get good

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Because he was shit at coaching

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And would scream at their shotcaller

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He is just not very good

blazing parrot
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what else to look forwawrd too besides apex and owl preseason in december?

clever portal
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Apac

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Oh shit

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That's this month

red anvil
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he can probably go back to Renegades, with his band of brothers mykl and ajax

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i'm sure he'll fit right in

clever portal
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You mean Kungarna

blazing parrot
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apac doesnt seem interesting tho

clever portal
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Prize pool is good

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And decent t2 teams

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It has Apex/OPC/OWPS playing against each other

clever portal
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The rumours were true then

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Dead last team

grizzled mulch
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monkafuckingS

clever portal
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Striker is KR right?

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No idea who Note is

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Idk how it could be worse

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I guess the dps right now is good

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You could pick up worse players

grizzled mulch
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NotE used to play for Toronto eSports

limber pine
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ACE White Striker

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which discord is that

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@grizzled mulch

grizzled mulch
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probably came from ATW discord

subtle fable
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i heard striker, gamsu - boston few month ago.

blazing parrot
grizzled mulch
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@subtle fable striker is KR DPS, yes?

subtle fable
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yes.

blazing parrot
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@grizzled mulch i heard it was from captain planets discor

subtle fable
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he was in rox with geguri

grizzled mulch
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since you mentioned him the other day, what's the deal with Agape now? @subtle fable

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i heard that he was coaching a foreign team a few months ago

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but that was it

subtle fable
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agape is coaching kongdoo rn.

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c9 = foreign team

grizzled mulch
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he coached C9?

subtle fable
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sure

grizzled mulch
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where's Bishop then?

subtle fable
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c9 london + bishop is manager.

grizzled mulch
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gotcha

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anything about Selly?

subtle fable
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no one know about selly in kr. i cannot find even any rumors.

blazing parrot
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I miss selly.

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😭

grizzled mulch
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I heard he was going to a foreign team but then that was it

subtle fable
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gamsu, striker - boston, libero - ny, fleta, wekeed - seoul, fury, nus - london heard from same guy.

blazing parrot
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i heard this too

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unfortunate that nanohana cant play in s1.

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when is he turning 18?

subtle fable
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he cannot play until 2018.5

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born in 2000/5/14

blazing parrot
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Unfortunate

clever portal
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So basically S1

subtle fable
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yes.

clever portal
blazing parrot
final thistle
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Who are they vsing

subtle fable
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faze vs envy.

final thistle
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Oh

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For what tourney? I dont follow esports much but I thought Contenders ended

blazing parrot
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it is ended

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this is from sunday

subtle fable
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contenders final

blazing parrot
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SDB is memeing

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@subtle fable how was inven react to kdp lose?

subtle fable
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do you know kongdoo scandal recently?

blazing parrot
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yeap

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org looks like theyre cover up for bsodin and void

subtle fable
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some of them, bdosin is enemy, i saw they blame him. he got 4 kill in all game, 1 kill per map.

blazing parrot
grizzled mulch
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GC Busan just straight up pummel them tbh

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Rogue performs badly but Winz got hate

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same thing here

subtle fable
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if you check today vod, when ogn introduce each player, the fans were silent at bdosin, rascal.

blazing parrot
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Is Void's drama fake?

subtle fable
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actually it was funny.

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kd explained that it's different from the truth.

final thistle
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Oh

blazing parrot
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👀

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So what did Kdp say?

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abomination websites?

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what is that?

toxic yacht
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inb4 ilbe

blazing parrot
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barcS sojum

toxic yacht
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Oh god I was right NotLikeThis

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At least it's not LW this time lul

blazing parrot
subtle fable
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yes. it's similar with flower, pine.

blazing parrot
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oh right flow3r used to say bad stuff too

subtle fable
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flower mentioned a word that is only used on that site

blazing parrot
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monkaS

red anvil
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how does they find out that they are using these sites?

blazing parrot
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they say the words apparently

subtle fable
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someone captured his gf's facebook

blazing parrot
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@subtle fable voids gf?

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are we talking about boosting or the iibe websites

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cause i thought we were talking about the websites

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monkaS

subtle fable
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ilbe does not appear directly

clever portal
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So someone got into the gfs account

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Saw the PMs

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And they implied he uses the websites

blazing parrot
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it was on facebook?

subtle fable
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as i know yes.

blazing parrot
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so much weird drama

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what does whoru plan to do now?

red anvil
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He is still contracted to LH i assume?

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so he's on LH#2 if they wane keep him

blazing parrot
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well theres the OGN super cup coming up

red anvil
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is that team seoul or is that lunatic hai though?

toxic yacht
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Was it specific terms that only ilbe users use again?

blazing parrot
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LH

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and kdp

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not team seoul or team london

red anvil
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alright so whoru got one more match for LH#1

blazing parrot
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He streams more minecraft now

toxic yacht
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wat

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lol

blazing parrot
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im guess he is tired of overwatch

red anvil
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i feel sorry for the lad

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being forced out of his team for his age

toxic yacht
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Whoru with the golden sword in minecraft

blazing parrot
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theyre still friends

red anvil
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friends who will be in LA for a long af. time and move to a different team house without him when they come back

blazing parrot
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I doubt whoru and flow3r will stop just cause of owl

clever portal
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Will Whoru even go to NA

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Or will he chill in Seoul

red anvil
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flower is still on his team, not comparable

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why would he go to NA

blazing parrot
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Whoru is still on his team tho

red anvil
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not LH#1, at least after seoul cup

blazing parrot
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and flow3r wont be on lwb either

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until he comes of age

clever portal
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I think they're signed like Sinatraa

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Just can't play

red anvil
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no

blazing parrot
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Until its confirmed

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i will say hes not

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sinatraa only signed cause he can still play in s1

subtle fable
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so they need new dps like libero

blazing parrot
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flow3r's bday is late into s1

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i doubt they would let him on the team that late

red anvil
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if your becoming 18 before an X date you can be signed with a OWL contract

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the rumors for now is fleta and weeknd @subtle fable

blazing parrot
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🤔

red anvil
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we'll see tho, they said they are getting a full 12 man roster

blazing parrot
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i heard rumor is libero for team nyc

red anvil
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oh for nyc yeah

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sure

subtle fable
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fleta wekeed ~ seoul, flower is lw - ny

blazing parrot
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we are talking about lwb

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which is nyc

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no?

red anvil
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we were talking about both x.x

blazing parrot
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lwb is nyc

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except flow3r

subtle fable
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i suspect the LTJ has returned to LH just for owl.

blazing parrot
subtle fable
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so if he does not sign seoul team, he'll concentrate on streamers.

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i dont think he'll be active on the LH 2 team.

blazing parrot
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why would seoul sign on ltj tho?

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gido is better

subtle fable
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but whoru is not.

red anvil
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if team seoul signs LTJ then i will be really annoyed

blazing parrot
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i wont because team boston is worse

red anvil
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Boston Tea Party 👁

blazing parrot
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wonder if hansuah is robin

red anvil
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flower at least is able to play for 2nd season, whoru will probably continue to grind apex for at least 2 more years

blazing parrot
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yes?

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yes

red anvil
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so they might bring flower with them to LA

blazing parrot
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doubt it

subtle fable
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whoru can play from s3

red anvil
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he's 16 this year right?

subtle fable
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born in 2001/08

red anvil
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so yep ty ^^

jagged crater
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someone exlain the anamoly that is GC Busan

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sweeping LH twice and sweeping KDP like that

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as fresh apex challengers

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Is this game just too meta reliant?

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LH and KDP seemed particularly weaker due to the newer meta

wintry matrix
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LH in slump, apparently c9 just didn't react in time to GC style (i didn't watch it)

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plus people already were saying that GC would be one of the strongest teams in the patch apex is playing

subtle fable
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Challengers revolt was every season. the meta of s2, x6 of s3, nc & gc of s4.

jagged crater
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how much time do GC players have to get signed for an OWL team?

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like some of them are certainly deserving, esp profit

wintry matrix
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nah, the probably won't

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remember that GC only rose in a few weeks ago

jagged crater
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guess this is why a tier 2 scene is absolutely important

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because OWL teams won't necessarily have the best players

wintry matrix
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it would be too premature to sign them just off a few victories

jagged crater
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which is stupid, you expect 20 mil spots to have the best players in them

wintry matrix
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not necessarily

jagged crater
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not all of them

wintry matrix
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like in everything, much of esports is done by networking

jagged crater
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some will be crap

wintry matrix
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so, lots of times who has the most connections will be on a team

jagged crater
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that's what winz talked about

wintry matrix
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also have to factor stuff like team synergy and petty egos

jagged crater
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applies to other real world stuff too, which is tru

wintry matrix
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there's even other stuff like orgs with too high buyouts

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a million things

jagged crater
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salary cap prevents a team from having the best players in every role

wintry matrix
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i'd say the people who bought a spot have more than enough money for that

vestal mortar
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tfw I read a mention from @blazing parrot about Jehong's balls at work

wintry matrix
blazing parrot
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@vestal mortar 👀

jagged crater
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all aboard the GC Busan bandwagon

blazing parrot
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Runaway bandwagon

vestal mortar
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👀

blazing parrot
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@vestal mortar 👀

jagged crater
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i was on the runaway bandwagon when haksal made his debut

blazing parrot
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my friends in the LH fan dsicord

vestal mortar
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😮

blazing parrot
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apparently they have a channel for fans to spazz out on players

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she opened it to that @vestal mortar

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👀

vestal mortar
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👀

blazing parrot
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theres a lot

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of

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very lewdy fanfics

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of jehong

vestal mortar
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Oh my

jagged crater
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only in south korea where fans have unusual lust for esports players

blazing parrot
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only in south korea where fans have unusual lust for esports players popular people

jagged crater
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nah that applies to every where

blazing parrot
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i dont know any fan in NA that sends used shit to their idol

jagged crater
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thre certainly has existed someone that's done that

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outside of korea

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100%

blazing parrot
toxic yacht
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pls, I lust after pros too

mild peak
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people have sent potatoes to NBA players, weird shit happens

blazing parrot
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@toxic yacht gay

toxic yacht
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no u

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tozic

blazing parrot
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no u

jagged crater
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potatoes with ... stuff in them?

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biological material

blazing parrot
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does anti fans send you a shipment of cucumbers

jagged crater
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what team is rising up the next meta who knows

mild peak
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biological material have been sent to people on some occasions

jagged crater
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some rando group of korean GM / top 500 nobodies sweep gc busan next season, heard it here first

devout raft
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[Team that is yet to arise] bandwagon

wintry matrix
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i don't think they will roll runaway

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considering they lost to them

jagged crater
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the only team they lost to

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but that was early in groups right?

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might've learned something, adjusted, warmed up to "apex" atmosphere, who knows

wintry matrix
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GC Busan lost to LW Red in group stages 1

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and lost to Runaway in group stages 2

jagged crater
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ok

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LW Red s5 grand finals losing to an apex challenger

vestal mortar
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OWL is gonna tear me apart

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RJH or Coolmatt 🐒 s

jagged crater
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WHY

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should've been like 5 OWL teams in korea

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having korean rosters in "western" teams seem weird

wintry matrix
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not weirder than 5 europeans, 1 korean and 1 USA in dallas

jagged crater
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nah that's ok

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that 1 USA is enough

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just so happens it's seagull, the most popular player in OW

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1 thai too

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1 lovable thai player

wintry matrix
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still a 90% not american team in dallas

jagged crater
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im talkin 100%

wintry matrix
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lul i counted mickie as european

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to me that is the same

jagged crater
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not the same to me

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and EU and NA are closer together than Korea

wintry matrix
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i guess, but still very different in their own ways

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there's even the rivalry of EU x NA

jagged crater
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like imagine Washington Bumfucks housing a full korean roster, that would be weird af

clever portal
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It happens in sports in weaker regions

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For example the premier league imports a lot of players in England

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Because local talent is like NA talent in overwatch

jagged crater
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esports baby

wintry matrix
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i wouldn't say that the talent is bad in england

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is just that these teams are ran by people with so much money they can just import the best from anywhere

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like Paris Sain German and Real Madrid

jagged crater
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talkin bout soccer? shieet dont know anythin botu that :p

vocal sky
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Yo is gc busan like the new lunatic hai

grizzled mulch
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Nah

drowsy loom
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Don't feel offended Wolf, but what's your view on busan's success?

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Because you don't seem at all surprised about their recent achievements

blazing parrot
grizzled mulch
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They just has better counterstrat

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And better execution

drowsy loom
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why don't you think they aren't OWL ready?

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just not enough experience?

grizzled mulch
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not long term proven

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Meta Athena was lauded at one of the best team in the world in their breakout season

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and where they are at right now?

drowsy loom
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understandable

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But wasn't Runaway in a similar if not higher position than Meta Athena? They both found amazing success in Season 2, but MA is not looking that great and Runaway is set for another semifinal

blazing parrot
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And runaway are unconfirmed for owl

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while kdp and lh are

grizzled mulch
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because one evolved and one doesn't

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Meta is known for their quirky strats

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but stripped that away from them

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what do you have?

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just another KR team with high mechanical DPS

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even in their wins they didn't look like they won

drowsy loom
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I don't think that Busan relied on quirky strats, just overall skill from the entire team

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Im not trying to argue that MA is a top tier team, I just believe that the hype for GC Busan is not unwarranted

blazing parrot
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I dont think that was his point tho

grizzled mulch
#

that paragraph above was for MA....

#

as far as Busan goes, they needs more seasonings

#

if they win this season's APEX and able to do well next season, then let's talk about them being real

drowsy loom
#

I mean after this season, the biggest players would be Busan, Runaway, Foxes, maybe AF Blue and Maybe LW Red

#

are any of those teams on the level of KDP and LH?

#

I think that overall APEX S5 will be more competitive, but teams won't be competiting against the "best of the best". So this is really the best chance that a non-OWL korean team can prove themselves against OWL rosters

grizzled mulch
#

their threats are not going to come from the established, unless the established evolves further. The upstart challengers are going to be the key test.

#

and mind you, none of the LH and K9 roster is OWL-finalized just yet

#

with rumors of various players adding to the bench

#

it will add another element to consider

drowsy loom
#

yeah, but all of LH (minus Whoru and LTJ) are confirmed for Seoul, and K9 is I think confirmed for OWL

grizzled mulch
#

LH are getting a couple more additions, same as K9

#

what we are seeing right now is just their minimal form.

balmy wolf
#

I love the new Mei skin

blazing parrot
#

nice

sharp wraith
#

rez me

clear vale
#

Did I just see merr emotes emongHeart emongLove

blazing parrot
clear vale
#

Completely off topic but her singing emongGasm emongHeart

#

Also LH? Hello. I really dont think they are that good.

blazing parrot
#

tfw win apex twice

#

still not good

clear vale
#

Atleast as much as people have talked them up till recently

#

No no no. Still one of the best overwatch teams

#

But I feel like this was good for them. They will come back much much much stronger

blazing parrot
#

Teams adapted to their strategy

#

they need to try something new

#

Individually theyre all still monsters but as a team they need something new

clear vale
#

Agreed

#

They need a new tracer tho? Also a new soldier if ESCA is gonna be on the bench all the time.

blazing parrot
#

Miro needs something new

#

Ryuje cant play mercy (LOL)

#

dps needs to branch out

#

theres a lot they need to work on

clear vale
#

Mercy xqcLUL

balmy wolf
#

Yo

#

Who are GC Busan even?

blazing parrot
#

a new team

balmy wolf
#

Why are they so good??

blazing parrot
#

because their coach prepared good strats to dismantle LH and KDP imo

#

they werent as good vs runaway

balmy wolf
#

So they're like a counter team?

blazing parrot
#

but during lh and kdp

clear vale
#

Counter team is a good way to put it

blazing parrot
#

individually theyre great

#

look at profit

clear vale
#

Profit dominated both birdring and gido

blazing parrot
#

but yea they know and practiced how to dismantle lh and kdp

balmy wolf
#

That's cool

blazing parrot
#

the coach said they practiced for hours to shut down miro

#

cause they watched the vods and saw miro's tactics

#

and found a way to effectively shut him down

clear vale
#

They even managed to tilt miro xqcDab

balmy wolf
#

I gotta see this

blazing parrot
#

not suprising

clear vale
#

Hooreg is pretty beastly too tho

balmy wolf
#

Even though there's only 1 match left for them lol

blazing parrot
#

im rooting for runaway

#

tbh

#

love that team

balmy wolf
#

Of course

#

but it's also exciting to see new teams

clear vale
#

My boi haksal 🙏

blazing parrot
#

put him on lucio again

balmy wolf
#

Is it true Runner doesn't play for them anymore?

blazing parrot
#

he doesnt

#

hes their coach

#

and sponsor

#

using his stream money

#

runner hasnt played for a while

balmy wolf
#

Yo man Runner

blazing parrot
#

👀

clear vale
#

Runner = good guy :')

balmy wolf
#

Gotta respect him

blazing parrot
#

him and his wife do so much for their team

clear vale
#

That's actually nice to hear after all these orgs fucking players with their contracts

blazing parrot
balmy wolf
#

You can't buy passion

clear vale
#

So na C9 got released but no tweet from surefour 🤔

blazing parrot
#

hes probably already has a team

#

doesnt need to LFT if hes already got offers

balmy wolf
#

Hope so, it'd be a shame otherwise

blazing parrot
#

mmh

balmy wolf
#

He was king in the early days of nV

#

so fu

#

n

blazing parrot
#

???

clear vale
#

I want to see my bois from rogue get picked up :( my favorite team since they were a team xqcThump xqcThump xqcThump

blazing parrot
#

surefour never played for nv

#

rogue is rip

balmy wolf
#

Oh

clear vale
#

Soon and unkoe got picked up right?

balmy wolf
#

I was thinking about Talespin LOL

blazing parrot
#

thats the rumors right now yeah

#

fuck talespin

balmy wolf
#

Surefour is popular so

#

I wonder how many REU players will get teams

#

From Faze SDB, Rawkus and Capre are pretty much guarenteed spots I think

#

They are too good

clear vale
#

Lmao fuck talespin

#

Who is buying out my boi dafran from McDonald's is the real question

blazing parrot
#

no one

clear vale
#

:(

#

Hater

balmy wolf
#

duh

#

Why do people even like him? lol

clear vale
#

I will argue to this date

balmy wolf
#

Because he misbehaves?

clear vale
#

That no one can touch him on soldier

#

No I like him for his skills.

blazing parrot
#

good aim haHAA

#

when you have tons of other dps mains that are better

clear vale
#

...

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No one is better than dafran on hitscan

blazing parrot
#

sayaplayer

#

sinatraa

#

selly

clear vale
#

Dps as a whole. Sure there are others

blazing parrot
#

taimou

clear vale
#

Not better than dafran.

blazing parrot
#

surefour

clear vale
#

Saya player comes close.

clever wagon
#

Yeah, but those other hitscans can play other heroes on an equally high level as their own Soldier

clear vale
#

The others are a league below for sure

clever wagon
#

Dafran barely had any

blazing parrot
#

sayaplayer is way better than dafran lmao

clear vale
#

BOIIII

#

Wut

blazing parrot
#

nice emotes

clever wagon
#

Must be high IQ emotes from year 2912

clear vale
#

:(

#

Bunch of bullies.

blazing parrot
#

flow3r birdring profit

#

tons of better dps mains to pick up

balmy wolf
#

Gankyou >_>

clever wagon
#

What

blazing parrot
#

Akm

clear vale
#

🤔

balmy wolf
#

Good evening

clever wagon
#

Hi

clear vale
#

None of their solider is better than dafran :(

blazing parrot
#

akm

clear vale
#

Akm is a God yes.

clever wagon
#

You still shouldn't one trick

clear vale
#

But not better than dafran

blazing parrot
#

akm is better than dafran

clear vale
#

Dafran wasn't a one trick. Sinatraa even talks about how dafran tracer is scary

clever wagon
#

You're still not denying that Dafran doesn't have any other hero that he plays on the same level as his Soldier

clear vale
#

He never got to play it for selfless tho

blazing parrot
#

@clever wagon torb tracer soldier

#

not one trick

clear vale
#

:(

clever wagon
#

Sinatraa's Tracer is better on every aspect

clear vale
#

Boolies

blazing parrot
#

internet baby

clever wagon
#

Mechanical aim Dafran may win but not Tracer blinks, positions, dive etc

clear vale
#

I never said he was better than sinatraa

#

On tracer that is

blazing parrot
#

only thing good about dafran was his aim

#

i dont think anything else

clear vale
#

:(

blazing parrot
#

ngl

clear vale
#

Hater

clever wagon
#

You're detracting from my point that Dafran doesn't have any other hero on his Soldier's level

clear vale
#

That's cuz his soldier is at such an insane level.

#

He can definitely play genji tracer in a tourney level

clever wagon
#

How come we don't see it often if that's the case though

clear vale
#

Cuz he never got to play much besides that for selfless

clever wagon
#

I mean like, not even a third of his S76 time on tourneys

clear vale
#

Emongg is a classic example

#

He learned hog in scrims

#

He was never a hog player

#

But selfless was a one comp kinda team

#

So now people always think emongg is a one trick hog

clever wagon
#

I don't

clear vale
#

xqcWut

#

Why don't my emotes work

blazing parrot
#

I dont know how emongg comes into dafran not actually being good

balmy wolf
#

lol

clear vale
#

No no I was just proving a point cuz he said how come we didnt see his other heroes in tourneys

clever wagon
#

Selfless being a one comp still doesn't prove anything about Dafran's hero pool

clear vale
blazing parrot
#

@lucid juniper effectHi

clear vale
#

Who would you guys rather pick up than dafran

#

Just curious

blazing parrot
#

sayaplayer

#

surefour

balmy wolf
#

Mickie

clear vale
#

Surefour is...

blazing parrot
#

selly

#

akm

clever wagon
#

I mean, most of the current OWL teams already have some that we'd pick over him

clear vale
#

MICKIE MONKAS

#

That's fair

balmy wolf
#

How many rosters are even known? Like 3?

blazing parrot
#

only 3 is known

#

everything else is rumored

clever wagon
#

Dallas, London, SF

#

Uhh

clear vale
#

So current meta is a tracer one trick with the other dps being a complete dps

blazing parrot
#

London im still iffy on

clever wagon
#

Seoul

lucid juniper
#

someone called me?

clear vale
#

LH as well right

#

Yeah

blazing parrot
#

@lucid juniper effectH

clear vale
#

Immortals?

blazing parrot
#

dont know the finalized roster

clever wagon
#

LA

lucid juniper
#

watup

blazing parrot
#

LA is just bishu

#

and one other

#

rn

#

@lucid juniper merrCry

clever wagon
#

LA Immortals

#

Or are they dropping the current lineup

clear vale
#

No agilities?

blazing parrot
#

no one knows rn

clear vale
#

MonkaS

blazing parrot
#

rumors optic will release their roster tomorrow (?)

#

dont know if true

clear vale
#

OH MY GOD

#

I'm hyped

blazing parrot
#

Im not

#

dont know if its true

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

clear vale
#

Aren't coolmatt and muma signed to them

drowsy loom
#

I will be really dissapointed if Optic just signed FNRGFE

blazing parrot
#

thats rumored rad

clear vale
#

ESPN?

blazing parrot
#

yes

clear vale
#

Am I being Jebaited

blazing parrot
#

maybe

clear vale
#

Interesting

lucid juniper
#

lmao

blazing parrot
#

umi merrCry

drowsy loom
#

I wouldn't be surprised if Coolmatt and Muma were brought in, but the entire roster doesn't seem like an amazing choice

balmy wolf
#

Imagine the OWL trailer but instead of Krusher it's coolmatt69

blazing parrot
#

krusher99 diappeared

clear vale
#

Who is krusher... Did I miss something g

blazing parrot
#

hes a meme

#

from

#

long time ago

#

i think he said something like he would reach rank 1 or 1v1 all the pros and win?

drowsy loom
#

krusher99 is the name of the fake player from the original OWL traiker

blazing parrot
#

good times

#

i completely forgot about it

drowsy loom
#

confirmed for OWL Los Angeles team but which one 🤔

winter trench
#

Does anyone have a team I can tryout for!

#

?*

blazing parrot
winter trench
#

I totally knew that

#

XD

#

Thz

#

Thx*

clever wagon
frank frigate
wintry matrix
#

what is apex tick rate?

toxic yacht
#

144

winged agate
#

I wonder how old the oldest pro is

wintry matrix
#

i know Hulk is 30, Runner is 29/30

balmy wolf
#

🍪 Im selling cookies go to akk.li on google🍪 :D:D

toxic yacht
#

talespin is also 29

wintry matrix
#

tho he hasn't been active for a while

grizzled mulch
limber pine
#

will we see more changes?

#

from IMT

vestal mortar
#

Yeah I think so

limber pine
#

hope so

grizzled mulch
#

Probably Numlocked and Rogue players

#

As reported

blazing parrot
#

what did hyped play again?

limber pine
#

offtank

pine star
#

Rip Hyped

#

🕯

#

He was ok

blazing parrot
#

Imt full roster annoucement week of october 24 👀

wintry matrix
#

it's weird that they would boot hyped considering there's only the korean off-tank now

blazing parrot
#

what?

#

isnt fate main tank?

mild peak
#

Yes, Envy would be off tank full time now. Unless they're doing something with numlocked.

pine star
#

What does Numlocked offer over Fate? thenkerino

blazing parrot
#

laughter

cosmic gyro
#

what team is sinatraa on

blazing parrot
#

NRG Overwatch San Francisco

scarlet spear
#

can OWL start already NotLikeSoldier

last lantern
last lantern
blazing parrot
#

This is IMT LA 👀

solid spear
#

Yes bb

blazing parrot
wintry matrix
wintry matrix
#

my guesses would either be a lucio or a off-tank

#

considering seagull doesn't appear to be flexing into full-offtank (he said his dva was pretty bad and did not train on her)

subtle fable
#

tl;dr : enhancements to their Roster on 10.15th

blazing parrot
#

thanks han

thorn holly
#

For there are only 2 options Vista or morte

#

Custa*

wintry matrix
#

Winz JunkT

subtle fable
#

image is missing internethulk

#

sure, i dont think it's possible

blazing parrot
#

Doubt kyky would pick up hulk

#

too much badblood between them

thorn holly
#

And he cannot Play Flex Supp

subtle fable
#

i want custa or kruise

thorn holly
#

Morte and custa can Play every single Supp

#

I think its custa just because i think he has visa

blazing parrot
#

I dont think theyll pick up another support because they already have chips

#

tbh

#

who knows will be interesting tho

#

@subtle fable rumors are LTJ is going to be on team seoul?

subtle fable
#

nothing. we'll be able to check on the 15th.

thorn holly
#

It could be roolf Too

wintry matrix
#

i'd said lucio because they could want to run a comp with harry on soldier, but still with 2 supps

#

when harry goes soldier, is always on 4 dps or sombra comps

#

and taimou isn't a good on soldier has harry is

red anvil
#

another main tank is also possible, coccos genji is apperently really sweet

wintry matrix
#

and so far none of the other players seems to playing lucio

subtle fable
#

no winz please

wintry matrix
#

Mr. Sword

#

the world isn't ready for it

red anvil
#

winz wont get a team

#

there are debates on xqc to envy but we'll see

wintry matrix
#

does winz shotcalls?

subtle fable
#

by french?

wintry matrix
#

or he really is just a payload mover?

#

i meant as in what he did in rogue

velvet scarab
#

seagull can play lucio

wintry matrix
#

either shotcalling in matches, or planning beforehand

mild peak
#

iirc winz and knoxx did most of the strategy/analysis for games

wintry matrix
#

seagull played lucio a few times in a stream, but i'm not sure if he would go for pro level

#

but it's a possibility

velvet scarab
#

i mean he played dva

#

and i dont think ive seen him on dva once

mild peak
#

apparently seagull played his frog account a lot off stream and was like 4.3k or something, so maybe

wintry matrix
#

he said he's bad on dva, and didn't train on her

#

he played her there because nV was kinda lost because they didn't train Route 66 point 2 and 3 defense

blazing parrot
clever portal
#

Btw on that pic above

#

Showing the rosters of teams that went to apex

#

Why are reinforce and Nevix not an option

subtle fable
#

different nationality from current?

clever portal
#

Ah, thanks

blazing parrot
#

Cocco is swedish

#

Back to season 1 boys

#

🚋

#

xqc's side of it

scarlet spear
#

i thought swapping and then rezzing didnt work ? new bug with latest patch ?

blazing parrot
#

probably

last lantern
supple nymph
#

OverView starting soon

strong parrotBOT
#
RunAway

Stitch
Haksal
Bumper
TiZi
Kox
JJanu

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1277 51 21 23
1095 44 19 18
1065 11 17 15
998 25 22 18
996 16 29 21
901 23 20 16

RX Foxes

Sasin
Pumple
SeoMinSoo
Hyeok
E1kiNo
Neko
Ria

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1144 33 24 21
965 29 28 14
895 20 16 17
892 7 23 10
874 33 34 15
750 6 37 18
515 0 8 7

MVP

Stitch/Tracer: 1310 Rating

Play of the game

Stitch as Tracer on Dorado: 4 Kills

edgy remnant
#

gc busan vs runaway finals here we go

red anvil
#

would be a bit pog champ if 2 of the challenger teams ended up in the finals

#

but this is a super hype match since RA won last time

limber pine
#

what was ria playing that got 0 kills and more deaths than ults

forest raven
#

He played one map

#

Dorado

#

WL also only counts kills as final blows

limber pine
#

makes sense

#

do the mechs deaths count as deaths

#

or just pilot deaths

#

in this infograph

forest raven
#

No clue

#

But Foxes did get held for like 3 minutes on 2nd of Dorado

limber pine
#

neato

forest raven
limber pine
#

that'll be fun

#

I hope EnVision does reasonably well

forest raven
#

Hopefully EnVision makes playoffs

#

EnVision needs to beat 2 out of Flash Wolves, MVP Space, and Vici Gaming

molten light
clever portal
clear vale
#

GUYS

#

DAFRAN

#

DAFRAN

#

OMG

#

OMG

obtuse tartan
#

Brad confirmed Dafran back

clear vale
#

HELLS EAH

#

YYEAHHH

#

KVO

#

I TOLD YOU IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN

final thistle
#

Thank god

#

My twitch name will work again

#

Our god is back

pine star
#

Did someone just say Dafran? 👀

solid spear
#

I'm so happy

toxic yacht
#

he's back bois

wintry matrix
solid spear
#

Glad the best player in the game is back

final thistle
#

And the most entertaining

#

I still remember his beautiful words, “i dont care about my rank since its just a rank” when he was playing Hanzo

#

Somewhere along those lines

solid spear
#

@vocal sky Dads back

vocal sky
#

LEGIT???

toxic yacht
#

brad confirmed it, ti's legit

clever portal
toxic yacht
#

👀

#

made me remember this video

toxic yacht
clever portal
#

Hypergachi

toxic yacht
#

lmfao it got locked and deleted

clever portal
toxic yacht
#

is he just jebaiting everyone?

#

lmfao

#

LUL THIS IS AMAZING

wintry matrix
#

i already hate him

clever portal
#

Oreo's not online mercypls

#

The hack was Oreo

toxic yacht
#

oreo got his dad's password

#

he didn't log out of his reddit account

#

so oreo snuck to his pc and made an ama

vocal sky
#

nooo we were jebaited

#

dafran is a god

vestal mortar
#

lmao

fallow plaza
toxic yacht
vestal mortar
#

hawt

feral solar
vestal mortar
#

No thanks

wintry matrix
#

^

clever portal
#

Very good interview

blazing parrot
vestal mortar
blazing parrot
clever portal
forest raven
#

Surefour just said on stream he hasn't played Tracer for 2 weeks

#

Only McCree, Widow and 76

#

👀

wary falcon
#

ready for bench

forest raven
#

Surefour on bench

#

That's a thonker

clever portal
#

Or he's been signed as a non-tracer dps

forest raven
#

^

#

You don't get a player like Surefour and put him on Tracer in this meta

clever portal
rapid oxide
forest raven
#

/r/overwatch

#

esports sub

balmy wolf
#

He gets called out for it too

clever portal
#

Talk about esports casuals GWowoKannaGun

blazing parrot
#

thoorin is a leech

rapid oxide
#

Is that for OWL? looks ugly af

clever portal
#

It's Drawe's birthday o3o

blazing parrot
#

@forest raven happy birthday my friend sureHH

forest raven
clever wagon
#

Finally got around to actually watching NV vs Faze

forest raven
#

What'd you think

clever wagon
#

This Hollywood game is widowlol , quite literally

#

Taimou you mofo

#

That analysis from reddit has a point

#

Fctfctn monkey rage to Taimou while the rest of NV are casually picking Faze off screen

last lantern
#

S4 himself has said he wants to play with a tracer player and then he can flex onto whatever the team needs at the time

forest raven
#

@last lantern Where'd he say that

blazing parrot
#

prob on stresm today

last lantern
#

he said it on Ult Advantage

#

then the chat flooded with Sinatraa + Surefour