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player slots
none exists right now
list of known stuff to the public
only teams we know confirmed rosters is seoul, nrg, envy, and misfits
not complete rosters, just whatever's possibly left
even then theyre still being edited
I dont think such a thing exists at the moment

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for the TDM showmatch, are people voting 4 dps vs 4 dps or reasonable comps like 2 dps 1 tank 1 healer
cuz dps players are arguably the most popular, so i see a lot of people just voting 4 dps players
I dunno, i just voted a bunch of players I like, most people are probably doing that
not like it really matters anyway, it's just a for fun thing
true
in terms of entertainment value, i would love to see all the star dps players duke it out
i wouldnt mind supports in it either, not like people like harryhook would disappoint in it either
oh shit i'm so dumb
i thought i didn't get it that it was TDM
i thought it was a proper match
m e m e
Memes 
I think 4 dps vs 4 dps would be the most entertaining to watch. I don't really want to see farming off of tanks and supports
actually mercy and some tanks on some maps can gain some incredible value
tho if they play phamercy vs phamercy i will report the stream
anyone going to the arena this weekend?
GC Busan 3-0'd LH again!? holy shit what is going on
GC busan complete unknown before this apex season, just sweeping the former champs TWICE. We know nothin bout the korean scene
Would it be fair to say that half the korean teams at Apex are actually envy level or above?
def not
there's a good argument for saying when OWL start, Apex will get worse quality-wise than NA
like, aside from a few really strong teams (LH, Kongdoo Panthera and LW Blue)
the rest is way below
there's just so many potentially good unknowns in korea
maybe Runaway being the gatekeeper
that apllies for every region really
the Selfless bois, Immortals, LG Evil before the fall
c9kd vs gc is gonna be a good one
runaway vs nc foxes, i mean runaway looks like the huge favorite
i litearlly know nothing about nc foxes other than they got a relatively easy schedule to reach playoffs
now the craziest thing would be nc foxes winning vs runaway, that would just blow my mind
plenty of upsets happened in apex s1,s2, and s3 too
I feel like a lot of industries/jobs are like this, it's about who you know not what you know, what kind of results you produce. People would rather work with people they know and like for their personality.
like every business in existence
I think a a major problem is, Rogue might have thought they could make OWL
So they could have found out very late
And not been trying out
Or they expected to be signed as a team
On the other side, you can't roast players with 'bad rรฉsumรฉs'
It's not like overwatch was some high paying job before
There's probably plenty of talent in the game
Who only recently got serious, or just wasn't picked up before
The Reddit thread is roasting jake, saying he's not as good as players as aKm
Yeah that's what's confusing me now, was he always open to solo-tryouts or just the full roster? He should have made an lft OWL twitlonger ๐
But he's seriously marketable
And a guy who you would want giving interviews
Going to fan meets and stuff
Not to mention good in comparison to NA DPS'
They were probably confident of their chances, getting signed as a whole team
IMO if there were more EU teams, these guys would be in the league
NA orgs will prefer NA players
And the only EU org has no EU players
i'd love some more diversity for season 2 teams, as in some more EU cities maybe OCE aswell, but i guess theres just no proper orgs there that get backing/funding for that
OCE for sure, not enough island representation but as long as UK is one of the major cities we'll still look pretty minor until we see Australia's placement in the OW World cup
We're gonna rekt by Canada lol
Who knows what the patch will be at that point
I wouldn't be suprised if they beat France
France is in a massive slump
They've come back a bit
But no idea if they'll be seriously practising this month
will WC matches be streamed on twitch? or only to Blizzcon people?
both usually
blizzcon esports are awallys open to all.
even on the blizzcon streaming platfrom
yeah got to promote to the right audience /s
@subtle fable interesting. Any news on Selly?
yes. related geguri & former? c9
selly been streaming pretty often.
Fans sometimes ask, but do not say anything.
Thats unfortunate.
xepher has a lot of anti-fans, so it's hard to get into apex, but owl is different

Makes sense.
Do you know what his part was in the geguri hackusations?
Most articles didnt have much to say about him.
He was not directly involved, such as profanity or intimidation
I see.
As it was released, he was just silent on the same chat channel.
Nobody has shown any direct evidence of him, including geguri.
This is a matter of responsibility, so he has to take responsibility anyway.
The team manager assured them they would retire if they were wrong, and they all implicitly agreed.
But he didnt retire. 
that's right
What a mess.
tfw half of the korean pro scene was apparently in dizzyness
In fact, there are more people who are not interested in it.
But a few of the voices are bigger.
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Korea had a serious problem of radical feminism in recent years.
This case was noisy with this.
D:

I'm jelly
it begins
Mr. Blyat about to fucc
Hi everyone!
hi peeps
tfw when even blizz shafts c9 feelsbadman
LUL
Carpe will karry.
I remember when I was about to change my r/cow flair to FaZe and then TwoEasy got kicked
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Sojum, you're a Faze fan too
mostly an SDB fan, but yes
SDB, Carpe, Rawkus for me.
wait..you're telling me faze are spreading their wings out of cod? ๐
I'm telling you Faze is the best western team apart from nV
Considering most of the NA teams are a rip, thats an accurate statement.
Will the different regions play against each other btw?
tdm showmatch tomorrow after finals
yes.
I see
They are playing on the previous patch.
would've rather liked EU champ vs NA champ proper game, but at least we get somethin
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
mikeyA 
I was on the toilet
ok 50k views confirmed
when giiganti plays
How many viewers now?
4milllion
23k
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/overwatch/4538/3289201 . . There was a very intriguing Korean Inven post which gained an overwhelming amount of...
Vacecord guy is @grizzled mulch
lol c9 c9d again
THEY DID IT AGAIN THE MEME LIVES ON

LMAOOOOOOOOO
staying true to their name
Clip?
Zebbo 
Getting a fifth map is the reason why I wake up in the morning
Anyone up here for the event?
Yes, Wolf is there

Watching
idk how much he is looking at Discord rn
ripperino c9
RIP c9
They put up a fight tho
I wanna see envy already 
yeah.
I expected an absolute stomp tbh
They didnโt deserve this
Being turned into a meme on twitch ;I
Canโt wait for envy
Seagull waiting room 
That family was so cuuute
Zuppehw
Logix
TviQ
Manneten
CWoosH
Zebbosai
1163 24 35 22
1061 67 32 20
1037 55 36 20
1009 43 30 21
872 34 44 19
837 16 45 20
neptuNo
Greyy
Nevix
MikeyA
SPACE
mowzassa
955 22 36 16
925 29 47 21
903 50 51 20
863 45 30 27
824 35 31 20
791 41 44 17
Zuppehw/Ana: 1289 Rating
Nevix as Genji on Watchpoint: Gibraltar: 3 Ult-Kills
LMAO
That's not any of them actually lul
THAT'S SNILLO LUL
lol why is chat crying
I dunno, but it's fucking hilarious
BlessRNG JIRI "FINLANDS GIFT TO ESPORTS" MASALIN BlessRNG
i love that one
Fragi 
Fragi 

Fragi shaved ๐ญ
๐
It'd be so cool if those pictures of the players were actually videos
Just spoke with our head coach @KyKy. We will 100% work @A_Seagull into our first @PlayOverwatch #OWContenders match today. Enjoy the debut.
linkzr
AHHHHH
m i d - t i e r u l t
Cool event so far
man mods are going ham on the kephrii copy pasta
Lol
200mgs?
kephrii said in chat " I ban anyone who posts copy pasta. It's one of my rules in my chat. Doesn't matter what the pasta is."
that became the new pasta then mods deleted people
lol
time to see how much seagull has learned from his time in jail 
Time for seagull 
Isn't he a bench warmer?
TIME TO REPRESENT 
Awesome
yes

I posted earlier that he will be playing smh
Shaz
BigG00se
zappis
Davin
LinkZr
Fragi
1330 32 18 16
1178 16 20 9
1150 31 19 15
1058 37 19 20
961 40 30 16
961 30 27 12
Hafficool
bock1
Finnsi
Dennia
nomy
snillo
1054 35 30 19
945 7 33 15
933 37 27 12
851 8 27 11
778 21 38 12
688 25 31 22
Shaz/Zenyatta: 1452 Rating
Finnsi as Mccree on Temple of Anubis: 3 Ult-Kills
good bot


PMA 
my body is ready 
have to wait 3 more centuries
that was a really good intro for NA playoffs

THICCMOU
the thiccnes 
classic blizzard productionn today
that was actually an amazing intro
took them 1-2 minutes to change the team names in c9 vs misfits earlier
GOD DAMMIT NA PRODUCTION
Former nV vs nV
llmao monte
LMFAO Monte
Remeber the ๐ฝ
PMA 
seagull 
SEAGULL
THICCBOIS
OHOIPAHFIHA
effect not on stage? monkaS
NII SAMA
Mickie benched lul
WE BROUGHT A BIRD
mickie !! ๐ฆ
I mean, Seagull is a really good off-tank too
time for taimou seagull pharmercy and carryhook on soldier 
I never knew EFFECT was this handsome
Puckett 
seagull got a great zarya but not sure bout his dva
i still miss mickie 
theyre so confident its great
is this prepatcH i didnt watch last games
Pre-patch
its pre mercy/dva
What he said
LOL SINA
effect lookin suave
haha time for uber to completely destroy everyones ears
oasis pharah map for seagull ๐ฎ
here we go
pharmercy hell yeah
Pharah 
this is so hype 

Poggers!
HOLY
effect grav already 
Old rez 
thats taimou
ALL OF HIS BARRAGES HAVE BEEN GOOD
hes proj hero
HOLY SHIT
TaimouU!
effects tracer is so crazy
fair point
His Zarya is crazy
FNRGFE lost in that overextensionj
taimouGACHI
ohhhh
OOF
That barrier was clutch as fuck
holy
holy fuck
buds has a family, stop it seagull ;_;
Seagull boiii
holy
Omfg envyusโ team
fuck
HOLY
seagull..
SEAGUUUULL HOLY FUCK
holy shit

Omfg
Is this seagull re-debut
He's nuts
Seagull is actually fucking carrying holy shit
wait, how nV didn't get the point?
Cocco, chips, harryhook,taimou,effect and seagull
seagull taking air superiority 
skykingggg
Life is meaningless my dudes Existence is a joke Lets all get harambe vapes and do cocaine (yes harambe vapes are a thing)
Happy halloween!
Spoop warning!
FNRGFE is doing really well tho
Serious channel ๐
Taimou is nuttttsss
taimou making muma look like a bronze
P O G G E R S
This team

the dps on this team lmao
fucking insane
This Tracer recall spectator bug is driving me nuts
its annoying yeah
Bani 
Effect popped at the end
effect just goes nuts when it looks like they losing
effect seems a bit off
Seagull to the bench 
man, it feels like months since i saw such a high level match
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BYE SEAGULL
great debut tho
what why they sub?
back to jail lul
seagull goin back to jail lmao
Seagull is the problem
40k viewers
Yeah the recall visual bug is really sad weโre sorry for that
spooky
oh shit it bill
Bill 
I mean, at least they don't teleport to other koth stages anymore
why does it happen
Hope you're having a great time bill! The atmosphere must be amazing! ๐
or something
Oh i was wondering why the recall was like that, i thought it was normal
its been like that for a couple weeks
tracer has been teleporting between different koth stages while recalling since beta, not like something minor like that would bug me
its annoying but whatever I guess
I mean, there are more concerning spec bugs like how you sometimes just don't see nano
Let's go corndogs!
The observers made sure to yell at me a lot for the visual bug
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:(
: (
w o r t h
im really lookin forward to new patch in tourneys, seagull chips pharmercy with chips on new mercy sounds really dangerous
but i guess they might skip the current mercy itteration quite soon
Wow Cocco survived that
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Iโm also looking forward to new patch
World Cup will be on a newer patch absolutely
wheres taimou!
LEEKS
taimou's widow aint workin here
if current mercy goes live I wonder if SK will run mercy because jehong is terrible on her
time for jehongs soldier to shine?
tuesday
Haha mickie
dva melee
lul taimou
Taimou LMFAO
what why is he playing junk
cuz hes a god
Iโm so happy clockwork decided to actually go big in OW
CLOCK
The doggos 
FNRGFE are doing so well, amazing
I'm happy that he stopped hating the game 
Taimou homing nades!
Yeah they look fantastic
he always seemed like he disliked OW, so I'm happy to see him fully commit
and actually do well
PMA 
i don't remember him playing well in NRG or GFE
PMA 
at least not as well as here
Who?
clockwork
is this best out of 3?
Yeah
Effect looks so depressed
bo5
Chitoge back 
envyus wins this and itโs a blowout
Effect 
its bo5, so 2 more map wins for envyus
oh.
F
I thought of 3
winston & rein ๐ฎ
I am literally tilted for him, he got that lucio to 1 hp twice on oasis
holy
Alright taimou junkrat is real

I've always liked this Rein Winston comp from NV
taimou redemption
Legit like 1.15 is so unwatchable
LOL
this is bullying
Timo LMAO
taimourat 2 sneaky
I tried to watch apex conrenders
cart hasnt moved lul
Scouting tire
that bomb
I N F O R M A T I O N
Chips 
that shatter combo omg
NANO RAT 
lmao effect
Is the stream lagging for anyone else?
not for me either
wtf
stream is fine here
timo lul
these mines
gg
that tire at the end
geegee
this is great to watch
Junkrat gets ult fast
he got nano'd and did a ton of dmg
als othat
He's so damn accurate with the nades
oh yeah the nano

they used grav because they were so scared of taimou
it feels so great that while nV is clearly dominating, you can also see how good FNRGFE is
๐ ๐
They basically solo grav'd him
A B S O L U T E L Y R E K T
that junkrat play was nice
I really hate junkrat
thats Sojums main smh
Did seagull play on first map? I missed the first map
he did yes
He plays phara i assume?
yea
Yeah
ye
only pharah

he patrolled the sky
He rekt fools
Ah okies thanks :D
He said he wouldnt be playing Genji much at all on NV
Gotta watch the vod
genji is not that good in this meta
unless shadowburn
he's like the only one in the west that could pull it off
today even
Effects Genji is probably better atm not even meming
C9 ran genji and tracer today
in korea you see a lot more genji
I mean did you watch the EU games today?
lul
Koreans were actually running less Genji for a while than the west
people just have ideas about what regions play
eh, genji really isn't that good atm, pretty much the same reason behind why LH wouldn't have won APEX S2 with whoru + gido or whatever
does anybody have a clip of the mine + shatter by any chance ๐ฆ
I wonder if any team would play mercy if they're on the same patch 
i couldn't figure out the clip feature in time to get it
you can't run him 24/7
like you can run 76 or tracer the entire time
there are constantly 2 ults that counter him up, tac visor also kinda fucks him + winston is also a minor annoyance, then the benefits that 76 brings just put him above genji in a lot of situations
I mean you dont run him 24/7 but saying hes not good in this meta isnt really true
I know Danteh is on the wave though about Sombra actually being better than Genji
he's more situational, that's the better term

Why that winston/rein? Never seen that..
It did, still.

winston rein was like
one of the best comps
a year ago
you run winston rein with mccree+reaper/dive hero
Neither do I
yeah, long while ago though
was this like beta?
0hl launch?
you'd see a ton of monkey rein
Double Lucio Double Tracer Double Winston 
that was rough
darkest of times
AMM actually used 1hl until blizz said use 0hl and then we saw how dumb it was
Gang banged
Atlantic showdown i think it was
only time i ever saw seagull on tracer was on 0hl point stall ๐ค
it was an interesting idea tho
tfw corndogs are cooked 
i could see why blizzard would be against putting 1hl at first because they wanted everyone to play the hero they want
lol
but for the sake of balance, it just wasnt possible
uber roasting left and right
surprise trap
sombra makes 2cp so much worse
3-0verwatch
yes faze v envision
ah, thank you ๐
LOL teabagged
Cocco with the bm
Did anyone else see that?
The bm?
ofc 
lolol
Fined 
Iโm up here with the teams watching. ๐
cocco banned 
farewell corndogs
i really hope they can keep effect forever
ez clap


fnrgfe didnt do terrible, despite the 0-3 vs the overwhelming envyus
Envision LUL
envyus was way on top IMO.
last map was all envy
they did great yeah
yep
40k viewers
nV match ends
30k viewers
to be expected
also the little song that played for 20 secs was sourpls as fuck
also because intermission
when the match starts will go up a bit
Effect
Seagull
cocco
chipshajen
HarryHook
Mickie
Taimou
1388 52 22 20
1300 22 6 7
1136 21 21 14
1108 10 20 19
1069 12 17 11
1056 21 14 11
979 36 19 14
Muma
Boink
clockwork
buds
coolmatt69
Bani
970 23 27 10
879 11 28 8
868 30 27 13
769 23 32 15
636 21 25 19
617 11 35 9
Effect/Tracer: 1523 Rating
Seagull as Pharah on Oasis: 5 Kills
seagulls not playing anymore so no reason for them to watch
jesus christ Seagull on one map had more than half the kills of taimou
althought that might be because of pharah-centric strats, id unno
not only that, also because nV is the most popular western team
even without seagull, numbers would drop after them
taimou had some rough starts
taimou was zoning a bunch
zoning widow
that's what i call my widow
I N F O R M A T I O N T I R E
his widow is scary so it's a legit zoning
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the other god korean carpe up next
taimou vs carpe is gonna be sweet
taimou is kinda like buds
both can be such night an day on performance
on the same match
inconsistent but crazy high peaks
rawkus taking 2 minutes to fix his hair with headset ๐ค
dont hate
i don't, just looked funny how everyone was just sitting there and he was fiddling around
B A M B O O Z L E D

tseini poppin off on pharah
envision getting to finals would be sick
excuse me, production just showed me its actually envisio 
NA Production NotLikeThis
Damn
lol what
0-100
why does it say envisio
wow
HELL YEAH TSEINI
is that a meme
LETS GO ENVISION!
Envisio 
probs small fuckup
oh
they had c9 above misfits for straight 2 minutes earlier today
oops
ENVISIO

oh it's fixed ๐
mcgravy doing his best coollmatt impression
Those Envision jerseys are pretty good
tseini keeps on getting rawkus
RIP genji blade
mcgravy almost threw the game
Let's go
LETS GO
Lol
what was that visor lmao
That nade
Rip
Trascendence to run to spawn LMAO
fahzix wasting trans again
I know it was not his fault but it was hilarious
high noon, self destruct, and ana nade
trans not very useful there
mcgravy has redeemed himself
Carpe is a god
0 ping shadowburn
carpe on a wireless mouse 
Ez
HANJO
Carpe 
A Hanzo crushing
RAWKUS HOLY SHIT
i missed it where at
lol

rawkus carry
ENVISIO WOULD HAVE KILLED EVERYONE
uuuh no Sulli
What? >.>
Faze Clan is the only team
Too bad they're gonna lose to Envisio

Unless Envision plays next map, in that case FaZe wins
Envisio > Envision
^
time for envisio to return and show FaZe whats up
#FaZeUp
Jehong 
FaZe throwing 
Wtf
well nvm
SourPls
7min hold
ez for envisio, probably undoable for envision
Sleep
uber is a damn good play by play caster
gg easy
FaZeUp
are these dudes using handwarmers
Yeh
hm
it gets chilly
Uber lul
Wtf did uber just do
i'm ready for tomorrow
Gg
ShaDowBurn
Rawkus
Spree
Joemeister
Carpe
FCTFCTN
1216 48 18 10
1184 17 18 16
1133 28 18 19
1120 9 17 12
1120 38 17 18
1095 31 23 12
McGravy
Fahzix
Tseini
Jaru
numlocked
Fire
951 24 28 15
948 3 24 15
870 25 24 15
811 23 26 14
788 26 36 10
624 10 33 8
Rawkus/Sombra: 1352 Rating
ShaDowBurn as Genji on Hollywood: 3 Ult-Kills
Spree got more ults than Carpe?
carpe didnt seem too on point today i think
I wouldn't expect the off-tank to be leading in ults tho
nv 3-0
seagull carry ๐ฎ
Seagull carried hard on Oasis, but after that they subbed in Mickie
Did faze win?
can we just appritiate the beautiful play of Taimou and Coco on Eichnwalde?
rogue disbands
About time, really pray the squad finds a place in OWL
most of them wont
atm it looks like maybe soon is in IMT, unkoe we dont know
AKM have had no tryouts
So I've heard, that's really surprising
You'd figure given Rogue's calibre people would be going at them
Isn't it really late for them to get released anyways?
Yeah it is, I assume most rosters are in signing stages now and have pretty much finalised choices.
Rogue, C9 and eunited all released this week. Hopefully there's some sub spots still open. :c
This situation suddenly makes so much sense as to why Seagull stopped playing with NRG when his contract ran out, he completely avoided having a potentially similar situation or having a big buyout/try-out fee.
aKm ๐
Seagull probably would have still been on the roster
He basically took a paid vacation
Getting insane money off streaming
Anyone know who's 1v1ing?
27k people are watching some 1v1
Hanryang1125
Ajehr
And yapyap30
Are these some pro players?
#communist-announcements
How long until overwatch contenders?
3:50 hours
Ok, thanks mercedes! :D

I wonder if people can get on their level
But FW was dominant last season as well
Maybe more Korean teams will join
as i remember FW starts badly S1 first rounds, Blank was dominant.
I think OPC's top teams are none in OWL.
Yeah, they're not on the same level
Sunsister is going to try again 
They signed some more players
I wanted Libalent to do better 
i remember that japanese team. I was actually sorry.
I like cheering on a weak team.
Even Sunsister won a game
Japan had such a good WC team as well
Maybe they should just put that team in OPC
Any predictions for today?
grim is good shutup
the weird thing is signing unkoee when they have kariv
also another main tank
i guess, but it ain't like kariv is bad
talk about IMT
shook hands with Minsoo and Cuddles
said hi to Kariv
and Minsoo was like "thanks for rooting for us"
"rooting" :spicy:
You should have said it
shook hand with Nate Nanzer too
and fist bumped Hulk
and got the whole NV squad's signatures
When is the NA grand finals
Predictions on the faze envy mathchup?
EnVy 4-0, 4-1 maybe
EU is playing now 
lets go gigantti ๐
Linkzr tearing it up
i sure hope he gets picked up for OWL, love watching him play
Monte looks the best
monte not in suspenders 
BlessRNG JIRI "FINLAND'S GIFT TO ESPORTS" MASALIN BlessRNG
No
It was the blade sheathing
Some time it registers sometimes it doesnt
Not sure why
BlessRNG JIRI "FINLANDS GIFT TO ESPORTS" MASALIN BlessRNG
i'd love for gigantti to win this
it is compensated by the fact when blade hits from a mile away
I just joined the stream, why is chat ????ing
Because they're going to Eichenwalde again
what? you can repick maps?
Apparently
And that one just happens to be the only map Misfits have won in the series
thats just dumb
It's absolute bullshit imo
how can you repick used maps
This is fucking weird
You HAVE to run the same map type again
It's a best of 7
There's just 4 gamemodes
That's understandable
still kinda dumb that you can repick maps
But being able to run the same map again is flat out retarded
but contender ruleguide is so vague so i guess they can just do what they want to
5.1 Map selection and order for all groups and matches will be decided by Blizzard.
Why is chat going nuts? I just got in






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