a bit like McGravy for Envi
#esports-discussion
wintry matrix
supple nymph
Twitter
clever wagon
Imt flaunting their 20mil OWL free pass?
void timber
wintry matrix
btw, who's Codey?
exotic cobalt
Pro sombra player considered the best
But idk if he really is
He broke his wrist recently
void timber
Codeyniku?
He used to stream a lot too actually but quit and he had a discord (used to be in it) but he removed it all... 
exotic cobalt
What he quit
void timber
exotic cobalt
When did he quit
exotic cobalt
I thought he plays Cree and widow
clever wagon
Yeah
wintry matrix
that actually reminds, do we actually have anyone considered a top sombra player in pro?
clever wagon
Greyy
clever wagon
At least I know he's famous for his sombra
Kinda hard to judge the levels of sombra in west
Because they're not as dedicated as Koreans
In picking her
Like
wintry matrix
kinda like today's sombra
i forgot which team
but like, only EMPbot, didn't go for none hacks
clever wagon
These days you know LH has spent enough time incorporating EscA sombra for us to expect him going sombra on a lot of maps
wintry matrix
Babybay
clever wagon
Like its actually one of their go-to
Staple strat
Dont remember west scene having anybody like that so far
Because they just simply pick Sombra way less for us to judge and compare
balmy wolf
well you kind of have to remember that the West don't try to use Sombra as a seperate character
not just an EMP bot
is trying to use her as a seperate character
and 
in some lengths
so there's that at least
wintry matrix
yeah, bani seemed alright on sombra
blazing parrot
eh
balmy wolf
nah usually when that happens Buds is the one on Sombra. Bani as support is kind of average
solo rez on Mercy
sometimes dying with Sombra
etc etc
his Zen and Ana are his best
clever wagon
forest raven
rip PMA
clever wagon
Next myklul is gonna retort with how he has more total kills in a whole contenders season when EnVy hasnt played the same amount of games
drowsy loom
I like how Fire and McGravy both retweeted Mkyl's tweet about "Kungarna sitting on top" in Week 2
I don't like Kungarna, but I feel bad for Dogman
clever wagon
I mean, the unlikeable one there is pretty much only mykl
forest raven
Everyone on Kung is 
besides Mykl and Babybay imo
clever wagon
Even babybay isnt as noisy these days
And he still does more work as dps than myklul
forest raven
Mhm
clever wagon
More consistent
drowsy loom
I mean most people didn't like Babybay because he got VACed in CSGO, but he's alright
also I heard that Bischu also shittalked C9 before Mykl
Pookz is cool tho
clever wagon
Pookz is Bill
wintry matrix
tbh Mykl doesn't shittalk as much as we shittalk him
clever wagon
Bill wwill never be not fun
We shittalk Mykl because Mykl shittalks without any factual backup
Ofc we'd shittalk more if we're in the retorting position
drowsy loom
And the fact that he is complete garbage
wintry matrix
what i'm saying is he's kinda like hafficool
shittalked way less than the people shittalked him
balmy wolf
well
clever wagon
But other pros dont shittalk as much as he does
wintry matrix
but yeah, mykl is one of the most visible cases of underperforming
clever wagon
And theyre mostly banter rather than shittalk
balmy wolf
that's only if you did not remember that someone implied Gods fucked over Ajax so that his friend Pookz can land a trial at TSM
wintry matrix
i dunno, i'd say mickle isn't the top shittalker
selfless and rogue did more or equal amounts
Gods is shady
drowsy loom
i'd say Taimou does a LOT of shittalking, but he has the skill to back it up
Like how he called out Winz for being boosted
wintry matrix
you could say taimou shittalks in a smarter way than most people
like, the moment to shittalk, who and how to shittalk
balmy wolf
tbf to Winz he only underperforms recently
nobody every shit talked him during 
height of domination
wintry matrix
i think people shit him even then
wintry matrix
as he ain't the greatest at lucio
balmy wolf
people already disliked him over his tweets. But then from hating him into hating the whole team
which was rather amusing and sad at the same time
and right now given that everyone is diving on top of each other, his jobs suddenly got a lot harder now
unlike when can bully people with their aggression
and he could just do a casual job protecting Unkoe
drowsy loom
I mean Unkoe is definitely OWL caliber. AKM and Soon could also make a team. The rest of Rogue just isn't that great anymore
balmy wolf
uh idk about that
Knoxxx is one of the underrated Winston out there
and he is the brain of the team
NicoGDH can be a good bench player
wintry matrix
what he has besides genji?
wintry matrix
he ain't great at dva
balmy wolf
which limited him greatly
and he is not like Emongg who will just grind whatever characters that the team needs in ranked
he barely grind any D.va in stream
always just sticking onto Genji
wintry matrix
did he played zarya really? i don't remember at all
yeah, that makes nico look not appealing at all
except if his zarya is fire
balmy wolf
he played it before. Played it vs Immortals when they were playing tank for like 3 seconds.
his Zarya is decent but not Spree level
NicoGDH is kind of inconsistent in a role that requires him to be consistent
all the off tank players are fucking consistent people
who performs well even if their team underperforms
drowsy loom
Envy?
wintry matrix
coolmatt
balmy wolf
problems extends more than just Envy
he just got scapegoated
as evidenced by how still struggled when their posterboy Hyped was in
and it didn't make any difference.
drowsy loom
I still think they looked better, but definitely not the same as in S0
They already have a OWL spot, so they are probably just trying new things
balmy wolf
If you look at good off tanks like Coolmatt69, Emongg, Mickie and Zunba, you rarely see them having an ESCA LUL moment.
it is always everyone else
wintry matrix
did emongg played anything other than hog on selfless?
before dafran left
and they fell off
balmy wolf
he was their "flex"
wintry matrix
i know he's good on ranked, but on pro level i only remember him on hog
wintry matrix
k then
balmy wolf
at the height of Selfless he was instalocking Hog
drowsy loom
I think he also played Orisa once when Sinatraa went Bastion on Kings Row once
balmy wolf
huh
@wintry matrix so apparently the reason they now has more breaks
is that they use the break to power cycle
to lessen packet loss and more stable internet
wintry matrix
oh, then that's fine
tho they could fill the airtime with something
the desk or whatever
void timber
Yall sleeping on danteh for??
No ones seen somji in rank top 3 or recognize dantehs sombras stats...? O_o
i mean, the somji account got suspended before the season ended but
Still 
void timber
Danteh...
blazing parrot
ladders aight
blazing parrot
so?
void timber
Are you guys EU or something
void timber
He ended with rank 4
blazing parrot
im out lel
void timber
lul
balmy wolf
ladder warrior =/= pro
void timber
He is a pro player, 
void timber
Yeah he has..
A lot LoL
Check his stats and he has an account for sombra only actually but ok
And hes used sombra in tournaments
balmy wolf
which match, then?
void timber
But yeah
balmy wolf
which match?
void timber
Stay asleep
balmy wolf
I ask you again, which match did Danteh using Sombra when he was playing with Arc6 @void timber ?
void timber
Yes..
void timber
Yikes at the time before they switched to arc6
balmy wolf
Danteh did play Sombra while during Arc6 by the way, but I'm not entirely sure if you know what map vs which one, but rather to just saying it because someone else said it.
void timber
It was on gibraltar i forget against who
He got potg for ot
It*
And it was on twitter which is why i remember
@blazing parrot yo you said you were leaving lul pce??
void timber
balmy wolf
not sure..........................................due to the fact that i don't remember her in any tier 2 teams
blazing parrot
oh rip
balmy wolf
probably, but it depends on the try outs
blazing parrot
mmh
void timber
Hes already been in scrims and they announce that in 3 days or so idk
Hes on a team but cant say rn
So ya
blazing parrot
alright
wintry matrix
maybe i'm wrong
blazing parrot
@void timber im probably going to keep being cringey for as long as i live
oh well
wintry matrix
but danteh never impressed me on arc6/yikes/denial
blazing parrot
lel
void timber
Its alright
wintry matrix
you could say that to arc6/yikes/denial in general except maybe for xqc
void timber
Same with me
wintry matrix
and zza pharah
blazing parrot
i dont really care
wintry matrix
i guess gingerpop was a good mercy
void timber
I still watch his streams tbh
i loved the yikes team
Id probably prefer gingerpops ana
Than his mercy though
balmy wolf
I mean
with xQC leaked the other day
might as well just assume that Danteh is in 
thanks xQC for all the leakage
supple nymph
need someone who is old enough for season 1
clever wagon
I mean I don't know why you're trying to put barcode in a tier
She's great and all but she hasn't been in any competition to be put into tiers
blazing parrot
@clever wagon im not trying to put her in a tier
im asking if shes in one right now
or not
balmy wolf
https://twitter.com/NamedHwi/status/907095495457124352 they are in LA??
wintry matrix
bootcamp no?
balmy wolf
ah that Faze event
clever wagon
https://twitter.com/CaptainPlanetOW/status/907064383917797376 Reaper can be a damn good brawler/objective contender tbh
Twitter
red anvil
New reaper is actually scary af.
idle dawn
what they do?
clever portal
You need to be closer to hear footsteps
idle dawn
;;;;;;;;;[]
clever portal
20% damage done is healed
idle dawn
well i know that
clever wagon
What even is this conversation
solid spear
@wintry matrix danteh was literally the best player on that team
red anvil
#ThrowBladesForArhan
And Danteh is OWL material, i thought he was on NRG before sinatraa was announced
Danteh is OWL material but Sinatraa is still a shoe above him
red anvil
๐ข
zealous girder
thick cosmos
forest raven
@drowsy arrow 
drowsy arrow
๐
wintry matrix
@solid spear better than xqc?
remember the times that arc6 found success was eithe with linkzr/silkthread boosting service, or zza's pharah
or selfless tilting
solid spear
I mean the only time they played with silk they finished 3rd and Danteh was playing too and Linkzr they literally played with for literally one day cuz danteh was graduating or some shit
So I mean yeah Danteh didn't play one day
wintry matrix
i'm not saying he's bad, just that he ain't great
solid spear
I mean he was their best player and defintely one of the top NA FA
There's a reason hes been tried out on multiple OWL teams
solid spear
blazing parrot
hey oreo 
wintry matrix
:monkagun:
blazing parrot
rip
solid spear
Hiya
blazing parrot
solid spear
wintry matrix
i don't have it anymore 
drowsy arrow
Sombra and Hanzo
wintry matrix
i could get it if it wasn't only in USD considering local money is worth 3x less
toxic yacht
they didn't just remove support
they flat out nuked half the big emote servers
without any warnings
nice
supple nymph
wary falcon
:lolCwl: skyyyype
supple nymph
nice ๐คข avatar ๐คข oreo ๐คข
zealous girder
This will just speed up the process of creating discord nitro cracks 
clever wagon
Seems Effect is using English bit by bit more in his stream
zealous girder
He always made an effort to speak in English tho
and his moderators are the best, translating everything for him and the viewers quickly
blazing parrot
his moderators are awesome people
and he has an english tutor
he knows how to swear in english very well
solid spear
Ford's avatar ๐คข
supple nymph
racist
wintry matrix
Volkswagen>>>
void timber
@balmy wolf you got jebaited LUL...
To think they would have sina and dant to be on the same team is a KEK.
And the team houses are in the west coast... so yeah
solid spear
Danteh and Sin have like the same pool
void timber
not saying danteh can only play tracer, but...its just really?
solid spear
they both play Tracer/Genji/Zarya
void timber
solid spear
unless the plan is play Danteh til Sinatraa is 18
void timber
Meh idrc, just proud of my boys Danteh
west cedar
There's good arguments for danteh being on nrg and for him being on cloud9
void timber
Hahhah
sinful slate
ya des fr
wooden musk
wary falcon
:D
toxic yacht
:D
clever portal
:D
solid spear
:D
solid spear
exotic cobalt
Omg
zealous girder
Is that in Effect's chat?
supple nymph
Twitter
limber pine
ppl rag on him too much
clever portal
I thought the constructive criticsm thread was okay
A lot of the stuff was true
For example limited vocabulary
Goes off on a tangent
Obviously reddit overreacts
And he is new
I feel he's better suited for the desk
And even then maybe for fun events
red anvil
he got struggle with game sense, and made it worse by being extremly unsure of himself this weekend
He worked way better as a desk person unfortuantly
drowsy loom
Casting and commentating are completely different. I liked Goldenboy at the World Cup because he's more casual and fun as a host, but when your casting the biggest tournament in NA, it's less appropriate to spend 30 seconds making a dick joke.
wintry matrix
i don't even think the joke is the biggest problem
is simply his lack of knowledge
drowsy loom
But I mean Contenders is a training ground, so I'm assuming that GB wants to maybe cast in OWL. This is why we aren't seeing monte and DoA, because they are showing the newer people like Mr. X and Goldenboy the tools of the trade.
wintry matrix
no
contenders isn't supposed to be atranining ground
you need to grind in small shit
like, Left Guy casted small tournaments
vods, weeklies
not a big tournament like contenders
like, Mr.X started way better than goldenboi because i think he was already a caster, and improved more than GB
wintry matrix
that will be cool
toxic yacht
Mr X has been casting for a year
Only at big events
But he mostly got paired with experienced casters (uber, zp, etc)
void timber
oooo
drowsy loom
In Comparison to OWL Contenders is nothing. Goldenboy also casted a Monthly Melee, the Open, and MLG Vegas, so he's not completely inexperienced. But I'd rather that the smaller people Improve in Contenders than having shit casters and spectators in OWL
clever portal
When did goldenboy do monthly melee?
drowsy loom
December according to Liquidpedia
balmy wolf
why am I feeling a bit funny when I look up the team and there's barely any results at all?
and also
why suddenly there are 3 different outlets reports on the same team?
thonk
so this team with no credible results, vs other female teams that nobody ever heard of, and got 3 articles from motherboard, bbc and quartz
thonkang indeed
supple nymph
why am I feeling a bit funny when I look up the team and there's barely any results at all
because you have a brain
blazing parrot
drowsy loom
chokers vs drunkards?
clever portal
balmy wolf
KR chokers vs BRZ shankers
gusty notch
not a onetrick btw
void timber
๐
drowsy loom
Feels bad when she gets to play with Seagull and I'm in Gold cuz I flex to whatever role the team needs
clever wagon
I mean, flexing doesnt inherently limit you
balmy wolf
my team is live in Academy Gaming now https://www.twitch.tv/gamewithstorm
half stratus
Which one?
balmy wolf
the one that doing the bullying
half stratus
gooooooood
wintry matrix
oh dip, prestige worldwide was signed to an org
one which had an OW team before and is returning btw
wintry matrix
welp then
balmy wolf
their sponsors included OWKings monkaS
pseudo sail
Hey folks, ICYMI my new write-up. ^^
Lunatic-Hai's upcoming decision
http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/6149
feral solar
3-0 LH?
clever portal
No rjh 
vestal mortar
๐ญ
feral solar
zunba is so good
wintry kraken
feral solar
AU internet
forest raven
ikr
rapid oxide
RJH fucked wife's coach
vestal mortar
Noooooo
blazing parrot
@toxic yacht hi sojum
clever wagon
Wait wait
What the fuck?
RJH not in the booth?
Then again
As I said, Alwaysoov did say he wanted LH boys to be able to rotate in case of emergency
They went with LTJ and WhoRU in their last match
So
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
toxic yacht
jehong couldn't play
clever wagon
Well, now they have a real reason to proceed with it
Anyway
Fucking told you MVP Space was a fluke
Get fucked
red anvil
RJH had family issues to attend
apperently
He only came in for the group drawing later
blazing parrot
wintry matrix
tbh, LH only challenge would be against Runaway, because Meta is a free win
supple nymph
who is the black guy?
blazing parrot
@supple nymph thats kariv
supple nymph
blazing parrot
that was the joke 
ford knows hes korean
@supple nymph kariv is the guy hiding behind
3rd person from the left
supple nymph
solid spear
Kyo racist
solid spear
Im meming pls
solid spear
blazing parrot
Twitter
balmy wolf
a bunch of people already signed
just unannounced
one person I can probably think of is probably JAKE
he is getting all these exposure from World Cup and such
probably will get sign
but role players wise i'm not quite sure if he is the best choice in today's loaded FA range
wintry matrix
i think you'd get jake more because of his personality and brains than pure mechanical skill
after all we always joke he's budget tviq
or maybe they can't afford tviq, but still want it
west cedar
Danteh is signed im pretty sure aswell
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix basically
wintry matrix
there's also the possibility they're trying him for IGL as lucio or something
balmy wolf
JAKE has expressed positivity about it
but signing JAKE vs KRs level mechanical players in a role that requires either very high mechanical skill is kind of questionable
then again I called LGEvil mid tier and Harsha/the gang disagreed on it
blazing parrot
misfits is signed on too right?
balmy wolf
change in shotcalling might be detrimental
wintry matrix
btw, these new teams won't have much time to practice right?
considering it starts OWL at the decemeber
balmy wolf
idk tbh
they might just practicing now vs Contenders team
and if anything I'd wait until APAC 2017
which is when a few of those teams will be invited.
wintry matrix
but like, only scrims, not real tournaments
wintry matrix
i meant more like big stuff like contenders
i get it that there isn't much big tourney
but still, only scrims till OWL, maybe a few in APAC
void timber
๐
wintry matrix
family stuff he said
red anvil
i really doubt that the changes wont come with the junktown update
its just an intern that dont know jack shit
last lantern
Twitter
wintry matrix
the question is whether greyy will be the last original LK member on it, or will he get the boot too
balmy wolf
Greyy is the least inconsistent
but for all the talks about his Sombra
his Ana/Zen is just not good
balmy wolf
clever portal
last lantern
Optic is pretty sick
vocal sky
Wait what happened w/ c9 eu team
blazing parrot
In August, oil magnate and Rangers board member Kenneth Hersh reportedly invested $35 million into Team EnVyUs and obtained rights to an Overwatch League slot in Dallas.
@vocal sky what exaclty?
btw, goldenboi said someone was supposed to cast, but dropped out at the last moment, then they brought gb in
vocal sky
ppl r saying that greyy might be last LK member on c9 eu. R they doing roster changes?
wintry matrix
yes
vocal sky
what?
wintry matrix
they're trying out lots of people
even when LK was signed to c9, their first contenders match was with 3 subs
so it was somewhat expected
blazing parrot
lol
clever portal
toxic yacht
lol
toxic yacht
No.
wintry matrix
smh weebs
btw also, from the sounds of his stream, i don't think goldenboi wants to be in OW for the long run
balmy wolf
well he doesn't seems to be welcomed
so why should he
especially when he is not their first choice at all
wintry matrix
not because of that
and apparently contenders it was a testing ground for everyone
like, he took the job because he wanted to train as a caster, but his stuff is other games
even then way he talked about seemed like he could appear in OW in the future
is just that is not his focus/objective
balmy wolf
well his casting just needs a lot of work really
wintry matrix
i dunno how he would cast other esports tho
blazing parrot
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gusty notch
lawbreakers 
clever portal
@wary falcon 
wintry matrix
50 concurrent players HYPE
balmy wolf
I love me hardcore egaming
supple nymph
@blazing parrot https://puu.sh/xye8e/6d2676d4ca.png
drowsy loom
It could've been 51
clever portal
Just wait for f2p
rapid oxide
Feels a little bit sad about LB, despite cliff being a fucktard, thr game is decent
Didn't deserve to fail
There are a lots of game that deserve to fail but they are successful
That's sad
clever portal
Maybe you should advertise your game 
drowsy loom
they did
gusty notch
g r a v i t y d e f y i n g c o m b a t
drowsy loom
Like they gave the game to a lot of streamers and a lot of overwatch streamers played it
pine star
Yeah
And the consensus was pretty much that the game was fun as hell
Which I agree, for what I played on the beta
solid spear
I mean the game just didnt really stand out in an oversaturated market
pine star
Yeah
solid spear
and it died
solid spear
It was just another kinda fun shooter in a world with tons of shooters coming out
pine star
But 50 players at one point...
That's depressing
Not even Battleborn fell as hard as early
blazing parrot
@supple nymph i saw that lol
supple nymph
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drowsy loom
It reminded me of old TF2
blazing parrot
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solid spear
Lets go!
supple nymph
LG ULTRAWIDE CURVED MONITOR
wintry matrix
one bad thing i can say about LB is how boring the visual style is
wintry matrix
thing is, judging by the premise and setting, i think LB is supposed to be wacky and more stylish than that
COD looks better because it adheres well to it's setting, and just by virtue of it's graphicas
balmy wolf
it is wacky in the same sense of a 40 years old man think of what the young kids like
wintry matrix
but like, it's supposed to be wacky while having dull colors
everyone wears black
muted colors i mean
solid spear
Twitter
wintry matrix
Twitter
pine star
wintry matrix
FNRGFE confirmed first team for OWL without a spot
spring lintel
wow, it's actually happening. OWL is getting big. I wonder why they trust blizz that much]
drowsy loom
I just realized that there is a new patch 4 days after APEX 2nd group stages start
Won't even be able to see flower junkrat feelsbadman
jagged crater
is seagull dead or
forest raven
Jail
toxic yacht
he was streaming like, 2 or 3 days ago
vestal mortar
He streamed like 8/9 hours ago
red anvil
Seagull scrimming ๐ค
red anvil
Why are the OWL teams tormenting us so much with the wait 
slim sky
quick question: what does miro say whenever he gets a sub on his stream?
blazing parrot
@slim sky " "MIRO LETS GO!! dding-ho-wa ITS MIROS TIME!" "
vocal anvil
england is my city
solid spear
topsu is my city 
supple nymph
wintry matrix
solid spear
I'm gonna go there to get banned
wintry matrix
how?
wintry matrix
ez ban
solid spear
yeah def getting banned
grizzled mulch
If Kruise is playing Lucio again
who's playing DPS?
and Kruise has been one of their more consistent performer
so why move him back to Lucio?
toxic yacht
Dunno, maybe they want unfixed dva and boombox 76? Dunno, lol
Roster moves/them splitting up and him trying lucio for an OWL team is also a possibility
grizzled mulch
in Eunited who is worth picking up for an OWL team tho?
with how shit they have been playing
gusty notch
u have to wait for it to highlight
minor yoke
solid spear
Im using this
last lantern
Lmao still using r/ow discord
blazing parrot
@last lantern i has too many friends here
last lantern
Rip
limber pine
Por que no los dos
blazing parrot
too many communities to keep up with is draining
and tbh reading comments on r/cow gives me headaches at times
blazing parrot
clever wagon
@wary falcon https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6zwgsn/playoverwatch_twitter_replies_follows_up_with/
supple nymph
who is SaltPoweredOmnic here?
wary falcon
oh that's nice
drowsy loom
Dogman AKA the only likeable person on Kungarna
wary falcon
if you used fake name to register battlenet it can cause you a trouble in future
20+ years ban for example
clever portal
blazing parrot
@feral topaz
V
wintry matrix
is rogue gonna be in LA in time for the match?
grizzled mulch
it will either be fireworks or nV just roll them.
and also Rogue is already in LV, all of them I think
so there's that
praying that Kungarna let Mykl play again though lol
gusty notch
mykl 
versed sinew
wut
blazing parrot
Twitter
blazing parrot
iron cedar
Stevo banned
gusty notch
why tho
gusty notch
we banned a streamer hehexd problem solved guys, praise us
limber pine
a lot of people did
last lantern
wait @supple nymph are you u/fordeka?
blazing parrot
"praise us"
i dont think anyone is saying that
i just like making fun of stevo tbh
balmy wolf
lmao I think Hydration used that whole stick of queueing late night so he'd get matched with diamonds and plats or somethin
iremix tho
tank king
drowsy loom
GaleAdelade has a high rank than taimou. Does that make him better ๐ค
blazing parrot
not really
ladder doesnt mean youre better
taimou spends most of his time scrimming
gale just get carried
xD
blazing parrot
sarcasm ๐ค
drowsy loom
I feel bad for libero specifically
There were so many times where he goes off on Doomfist and gets 3 kills, but the team isn't communicating and they lose the fight
grizzled mulch
Sayaplayer probably regret not signing that contract from that NA org
hollow egret
Which org?
drowsy loom
did Saya not see how much praise Carpe is getting?
and he didn't even play tracer for BK stars
hollow egret
Haskal is insane
grizzled mulch
i mean the man made his choice. And now his team is out of the playoff.
so you know, instead of fat NA money
he decided to get languish in KR mid tier
drowsy loom
All I wanted from MA past 2 seasons was the mei strats
the mei strats got them to 4th place
what happened to the mei strats
grizzled mulch
everyone catch a wind of it
drowsy loom
because mei's ability is terrain manipulation, there are so many possibilites
This play was beautiful. My favorite thing that meta athena pulled off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z5VRez2gHQ&t=2s
hollow egret
Immortals actually suck
drowsy loom
they took that map of LH
drowsy loom
IMT has really good players, they just need to readjust
hollow egret
I like leetaijun honestly
drowsy loom
IMO Gido > LTJ
hollow egret
Mickie my fav player
drowsy loom
they got really far by using mei in different ways
like they did the boost on dorado i linked above
they did the eichenwalde boost against nV
grizzled mulch
also the meta shifted to the point where Mei wall isn't viable anymore
drowsy loom
mei isn't really viable on attack period
wintry matrix
also because Mei is best against tanks
balmy wolf
why doesn't north korea have an esports team
grizzled mulch
meh, attack mei was a thing before
wintry matrix
if they have games at all
wintry matrix
it was like Wolf said, it was a limited gimmick, to use only once because after that the others team will prepare for it, since the gimmick relies on surprise to work
wintry matrix
for those who watched the new overview, anything relevant?
grizzled mulch
Probably not
It is just a weekly recap show
And not many are interested in what fishstix or chanman's thoughts tbh
wintry matrix
i generally watch to see the guest
if he has anything insightful to say
as it is flame, i'm not in the mood to watch if he doesn't ahve anything to say
knotty acorn
Ugh, Hus, what're ya doing mate
blazing parrot
YA RUNAWAY
solid spear
wary falcon
it's over
wintry matrix
so they disbanded, or still signed?
frank frigate
I wrote a short meta update that turned into the history of Graviton Surge. Oh and Cwoosh was there too:
https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2017-09-15-overwatch-meta-update-and-the-history-of-graviton-surge
If you want to discuss this week's article, here are some reddit threads 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/70aceh/overwatch_pro_scene_meta_update_history_of/
oh shit...RIP Liquid and Eunited T_T
toxic yacht
mobile?
solid spear
She's just really sad
vestal mortar
extra sad
grizzled mulch
he already got offers and such
just use the tweet as a hype machine
personally I don't think it will work out for him due to multiple reasons
grizzled mulch
a nobody ๐
limber pine
Reddit says otherwise
grizzled mulch
since when being in reddit counts as being "somebody"
limber pine
always
limber pine
maybe they'll pick up a new team
blazing parrot
look what you made wolf do
wintry matrix
he can't come on the phone
wintry matrix
now i imagined reign's voice singing it
wintry matrix
there was a AtW forum
after the guests left, some people started talking
i think oreo and vace where there too
wintry matrix
feelsGachiman
wary falcon
reign - stripper?
clever portal
wintry matrix
rapid oxide
lethal valley
clever portal
Moon subs 
blazing parrot
clever portal
void timber
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/287019314664570880/358405059471474689/guardiansoftheelo.png
gusty notch
this game ever gonna start btw
feral solar
TIMO
clear raptor
effect bored of tracer
playing everything but
So far tracer, DF, genji, zarya, reaper
wintry matrix
yeah, something's wrong
grav + shatter
pretty close round
tho nV is being really sloppy sometimes
pine star
Nice hold 
clever wagon
EFFECT finally pulls out his Gengu?
wintry matrix
i feel like nV is only winning because of FNRGFE makes mistakes in crucial moments
pine star
He's pulled out his everything
wintry matrix
and nV don't seem to be trying anything out of the ordinary
no crazy experimentations beside effect zarya
clever wagon
Startha Mewart
I mean it's not "only" since it's definitely a valid win
You don't deserve to win by being inconsistent
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
wintry matrix
i just mean nV isn't giving a great performance
like, if nV plays like this against Envision, i can see them losing very confidently
like, nV isn't giving a performance worthy of winning, but they're winning because Cornodoggos keep messing up
blazing parrot
effect's genji is good for the ladder
but imo its not good enough for pro scene yet
judging by his streams
wintry matrix
i think he only played twice counting with today on pro tours
blazing parrot
dont remember
he needs to work on it more imo
imo nv is giving a great performance
wintry matrix
btw i'm so bummed babybay can't go, because today would be a great with Rogue returning
wintry matrix
it would be so hype if mickle played the game of his life against rogue with bbb absence
but after that became trash again
blazing parrot
wtf
wintry matrix
back to 2016 comps
light hearth
4 tank wtf is this
wintry matrix
remember that people occasionally ran this during triple tank meta
except with zarya on place of winston
grizzled mulch
@light hearth we are waking back to 2016 that's what
burnt nimbus
I think they are done throwing
blazing parrot
effect 
wintry matrix
it feels nV is treating this like ranked
light hearth
new patch, gonna be weird
gusty notch
overwatch is so weird with patches
wintry matrix
my headcanon today is that nV was fueled by alcohol
wintry matrix
Reinforce trying to be fired lul
tbh, as much as we shit on mickle, i think they are giving too much emphasis on stats
which i don't think are very relevant or meaningful
wintry matrix
i don't wanna be in a world where rogue gits gud again and nV gets bad
wintry matrix
because judging by nV's performance last match and today, i'm not confident in them
ofc that Rogue's is yet unproven even if they roll Kungarna today
gusty notch
i mean they shouldnt lose to kungarna without babybay
wintry matrix
just for today
gusty notch
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