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T I E R O N E E S P O R T S
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4.3k hitscan flex player LFT EU
@cedar heath #lf-players-na
my bad
:C
I post great content
@limpid estuary
If he doesnt do anything I will
I'll join when I get it
oops?
smurfing in plat is pain and suffering lol
Orisa in plat is everywhere and whoever plays her is always crapping all over the place
good thing i'm just here for practice
i live here 
same 
@clever portal 

Failed to connect to server
suspended for 10 mins
, why am i getting suspended for your shit server?
lol
why do people join pre-existing esports orgs when they can just make their own team and keep all the money?
or do they get paid more if they are part of an org
Tonight the first episode of Ultimate Advantage will be live with @IMTVerbo, @Reinforce, @FaZeFCTFCTN and @DogmanOW, see you there!
@sick stone what money
You're saying it like a new team can immediately compete in any intermediate championships like Contenders or Challengers
Which is hilarious
Just watched Sty lie to 60K people that SBB was by far the best Tracerin the world 
i havent really looked into this at all the thought just popped into my head
but
couldn't a team of amazing people just make a team
Nk
Well, FNRGFE
No coach /team house/salary
Unless some players have money lying around to pay everyone a salary
It wouldn't work out
Oh so the big orgs can get them into leagues and stuff
only low tier (read: Shady) orgs take money from players. The rest lives by sponsorship deals most of the time.
oh that makes sense i guess
Only a small percentage of esports money is from prizes
and i guess big orgs would get people a following so they can make money off twitch/youtube if they are into that
OWL guaranteed up to 50% of prize money to players from orgs, but up to
And most likely it's 50% in total for all 6 or how big their roster is
considering
is one of the biggest brand in esport
and they are essentially a youtube channel
but most other orgs lives by sponsorship from companies tho
Sponsorship and partnership are these orgs' main income
Championship titles and prize money are there to help improve branding & marketing more than being an income
A bonus for the players, at best
yeah
Since they're the ones that win it
maybe except fucking The International tho
with
somehow got 10 millions
out of the 23 millions prize pot
i wonder if
will take at least 10 percent out of it
and giving the rest to the team
btw, y'all missed RJH saying he wants And dmg buffed and zen dmg nerfed
an Ana main suggesting that Ana needs buff
in other news, the sun rises up in the West
Ana damage buff 
he deals a lot of fuckin dmg tbh
if hes not as easy to kill as before cause of his hitbox being smaller
then its probably ok
that is what he is, but characters can change 
i mean idk exactly how much he wants to change
but it sounds decent imo
change for the sake of change is dunk
lucio?
lucio was change bc after feedback the devs thought he was bit too passive
like, he was fine before the changes, but the changes made him more versatile

I mean yeah this has been known for a while
doesnt make sense for an OWL team to settle on a T2 NA team when pretty much everyone is avaiable rn
KyleKy: were the 1 na team that treats scrims as practice and not a tournament
Reign with the canada excuse 
@wintry matrix gotta stand up for my boyz

@clever wagon whats an f/a team?
free agent
no credit to rogue for doing what they believe in ๐ป
he also mentioned he isn't doing shotcalling anymore
funny to think flame was correct in his tournament cast
he said something like "is one thing when is just 6 guys playing together for months and building their stuff, and it's another when a coach comes in and changes how you play"
or something to that effect
@wintry matrix but theyve had Ookz and Minsoo for months
Either part of the Korean imports or they came earlier than fate-Kariv
And that same people 3-4 BEAT finals
With the exception of Envy
they probably are doing some experimentation with the structure of the team
but it is not working out i think
that's what i meant
in the podcast, verbo said that they were trying out new stuff for contenders thatwould allow them to "reach a higher ceiling"
considering they have an OWL spot, it makes sense they would try out new stuff in contenders
Ookz probably have some reasonings for it
I'm not quite sure tho
given their form now vs 2 months ago
it is night and day
i'm willing to give them more time
Wowee
Can't do announcement feelsbadman
Apex 
are either conbox or X6..decent teams?
...unfortunate C9
Arhan will be back
has anyone got the clip of when effect got stuck blinked into mykl and reset, and killed mykl with his own bomb? i watched the match but i think i missed it just heard about it and want to see it
the trash talk
If runaway wins this 3-1 or better mvp space can still get third in their group
I think
Actually they just have to win
But a 3-2 for runaway would tie them and mvp space
@solid spear i didnt know birdring and rascal were in the ow
@An innocent Kiwifruit#0199 https://clips.twitch.tv/SavageSparklyGoshawkDAESuppy
MYKL sticks bomb onto EFFECT, EFFECT suicides with MYKL. - Clipped by escalul0
Literally first result on r/cow searching for "effect" sorted by newest
RA ON TO 2nd GROUPS YAY
@blazing parrot I knew BR was didn't know about rascal
@solid spear 

Weabs 
oreo at least!
well oreo is a proud weeb
ban oreo
so who cares
What
@solid spear Who or what didn't know about Rascal?
What should we see in flamecord, weebs? @red anvil
mhmm
Pff
@clever wagon oh I just didn't know rascal was in OW it's nothing
I'm not even a weeb tsk
Fucc u
Unlucky
..
its only a nickname this time
@clever wagon won't backfired at all /s
opens #esports-discussion
sees @solid spear saying he's not a weeb
@balmy wolf whats the whole thoorin vs tsm thing?
mostly just some past fued between Thoorin and TSM head honcho Reginald. Unless you are talking about the debacle of TSM OW
how bout both
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@balmy wolf
whats also the latest shit? i saw a tweet about thoorin talkinga bout why no one likes tsm
?
TSM is a weirdly run org
good in League of Legends
shat the bed everywhere else
they let their top 5 CSGO squad out
the Danish one
while their OW squad was a dumpster fire that nobody know until too late
they are also the last one that isn't VC backed yet
and also TSM in League of Legends is also a meme
dominating in NA
but flounder in Worlds
just look up "Top 4 in group" meme
hell they almost got 3-0'd vs a Vietnamese squad that nobody knew

@pine star I'm not
Gigabyte Marines lul
I mean, tbf all of NA sucks in international events
@solid spear incorrect
can we ban vace

nice discord mobile yo

FG and PUBG are one of the most boring esport I've ever seen in my life
I like mobile esport so i can't be hurr durr console esport r shit
aren't fighting games on console?
I dont mind the platform where the esport is played
Yes
I mean, console esport are shit true but not because of console, but because thr game are shit
i think FG esports are fine, tho i too dont like the games
I prefer cod over fg
like, comboing and frame skipping seems too much bullshit for me
fg has nice graphics at least
FGC is bigger than OW lul
"bigger"
Bigger prize pools, attendance, viewership yes
According to esport earnings
and high-barrier entry
i lol'd at the subtitle of https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/04/overwatch-s-highest-paid-pro-lands-150-000-salary-deal/ "The 17-year-old still needed his mom to sign off on the deal." ๐
bigger prizepool because you are alone
?
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to me the 10/10 logo will always be You Guys Get Paid? first logo
It's bigger because FG fans in general just tend to be more competitive
And support it
Even the games that aren't that big commercially
Never even heard of Azubu
xqc and sinatraa on the same team
I mean that means nothing
xqc isn't on NRG
That could refer to literally any player
And is likely a joke anyway
Inb4 he is

it would be funny
I just want more people signed already
@balmy wolf
check dm
@solid spear youre amazing
@solid spear yes I know you too
"advertising"
5th little square
i've the window small so i dont even see it normally
top tier advertisement lol
read xqc comment
So basically overwatch is the most broken game in the world. Orisa needs to be changed, junk needs to be nerfed and mercy needs to be removed. this game is a joke. I'm going to play paladins until blizz start doing some REAL work.


New pasta 
I understand xQc point but it like the last square to the main screen
like they did more and better adds with the world cup
Exactly why he commented that
the way my launcher is now i don't even see it unless i scroll
xqc is a toxic twat.. like.. holy crap
TBH everyone is gonna get cucked by lunatic hai
right.............
Wasn't source of xqc leak a private discord? Plus, he's jebaiting people, especially reddit . Great self promotion tho
no, it was just his stream
He leaked on stream yes, but actual source of the info
i just want all toxicc people on one team
like, dellor, reaver, xqc, sinatraa, dafran
do you think teams will fly their players to korean to bootcamp between matches
so eventually they are better than LH who falls behind
depending on the length between matches i could see
@wintry matrix if all toxic ppl were on one team they would cuck all other western teams
I don't think people even know what toxicity is anymore
asking to switch= 
by toxicc i just mean an umbrella fitting personalities like them
like, SInatraa teabaggin and whatnot
like, that kind of personality they have
english is hard
does shit pasta make good pizza tho?
Console is where it's at
Mobile esports ftw
To be expected I guess



The rogue team is the best

Hmmmm
lol
Hmm
hmm
Hmm
mmH
Introducing Overwatch Contenders - the development league for aspiring Overwatch League professionals, kicking off in summer 2017 in North America and Europe. Season Zero of Overwatch Contenders will be an open signup, online-only tournament with a USD $50,000 prize pool per region.
S4, Kragie

not that it means much
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any chance Talvi sucked ExcitablePancake off?
they let that wardrobe post up
while remove this one now
@limber pine hello?
Deleting memes 
i sent a modmaill... there are memes at the top of the sub all the time
suddenly to start removing them now
wat
we've had memes at the top all the time?
a few good ones make it to the top every week
Bad Pachimari videos
shit that the Contenders talent does
All the xxx is marketable
random shit about taimou
there is definitely not meme spam
and people seem to like the memes
so i dont see why it is a big issue now
I think there's a difference between humorous material in a tournament setting and what is, essentially a shitpost.
I have not been around today to look at it, but I would have probably removed it as well.
Did we allow the old NRG meme video?
i think these kind of fluff shoudl be allowed
Fluff is the next thing on our list to discuss
memes are usually not at the top
and not very often either
also harsha disagrees
Don't know why people are pushing for memes to be allowed on /r/CompetitiveOverwatch. Like we haven't learned anything from /r/Overwatch...
man i wished i saved that week on cow where the top was solely drama, complaints and hghlights
so i could reply to that tweet with that
rip yalla esports btw
What did they ever do?
I take it the "no memes here" is off the xqc "meme" ?
Attempted to qualify for contenders
I wonder if people in here remember when Sopti talked about Vansquad being a fraud
yep

Introducing Overwatch Contenders - the development league for aspiring Overwatch League professionals, kicking off in summer 2017 in North America and Europe. Season Zero of Overwatch Contenders will be an open signup, online-only tournament with a USD $50,000 prize pool per region.
@solid spear what am i looking at
Jake sub

To our local LA fans, if you're going to the #LAFair this weekend, stop by our booth with @BloodyUSA and say hi! ๐๏ธ https://t.co/HU5JWFufeb
@BloodyUSA #IMTOW will be in attendance late-Saturday to play some games and meet the fans.
they definitely need this distraction

you could argue that it is the best time for distraction
perhaps

Good morning everyone, I just posted this week's meta report covering the pro scene.
Unfortunately the data side of things is from last patch, so it's not going to be too relevant to what you'll see on ladder. I tried to remedy this by doing some analysis of how FaZe dismantled Renegade's Torb-Orisa cheese, since that's something I'm sure y'all have come across in your own play:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6ynsru/overwatch_pro_scene_meta_report_a_patch_before/
oh yea feel free to @ me here and I'll answer any questions otherwise see you in the comments 
@frank frigate hi
no
wait pls
oh boy meta report time
@frank frigate
thanks for your hard work
I've been asked if I want to come back to COD and, while nothing is official, I fully intend to come back for at least one event. So... https://t.co/RMI1P60nPZ

do casters cast in more than one game simultaneously or he's bailing OW eventually?
Rachel appears very ocassionally tho in OW
Goldenboy and Mr.X are casting ow more frequently
@blazing parrot :o
@frank frigate o:
I like your pic Captain planet 
Many people do!
oh my 

https://www.universe.com/events/overwatch-contenders-season-one-playoffs-tickets-santa-monica-SY8XRQ
you can buy contender tickets
did that guy just post two spam websites with different names but both have 'score' in them?

LUL
LULULUL
The @PaladinsGame Premier League will only be broadcast through Facebook Live https://t.co/Z19WUJwfiP
Pretending Paladins only being streamed on Facebook is a good thing is like pretending all you ever really wanted in life was a root canal ๐ฌ
Paladins 
Who's gonna bro out with me at the new arena in LA
someone who doesn't live more than 10.000km away from it
@light hearth ill be your friend

that would be awesome
i could come visit
owo
@balmy wolf https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6yrbq8/liquid_news_soon_hinted_by_internethulk/
i thought TL was kill
Pogchampu
so it probably means they'll be in OWL?
TL have more than enough capital for OWL
that i know, but considering they quit their team
Probably release them to build a better one
I mean
Hulks statement is vague
and may not even be Liquid related
Mesr is also a FNRG sub and has supposedly been "unmovitated" lately so I wouldnt look into him much
ew misty
eh
how bad was the game that he quit
i think he said something about having four pros on the other team, having a sr lower than the avg SR and still losing a lot
just watched it, all he quit over is not having tank players on the team lul
smh ID, such a pussy
even more because he was the tank player for TL
who's in today in chanamn? @supple nymph
zp and fishdicks
No pro guest today
ZP knows shit
honestly i dont know what chanman and fishstix do in relation to esports
other than being mods in various places
Btw, which streamer is a good Hanzo main? As in Kephrii is a good Widow, Calvin a good Mccree
fishstix casted and writes i think
@worn falcon not really related to this channel, but i think wraxu is the most frequent hanzo i know
Oh, alrighty, I was not sure where to ask. Thanks
Fishstix was on Atlantic Showdown desk
He's a Twitch staff & r/cow mod
Also ChanmanV is more or less an enthusiast and Overview is his own show, he usually invites pro player guests
There you go, his relation to esports
@supple nymph ChanmanV got reddit banned for vote manpulation lol
rip
well, at least Chanman makes himself somewhat useful because of the podcast
Slasher's just a cunt
tho he was an alright analyst
and also force a closure of a rather popular gaming site that apparently was paying their journalist very well
wait what
just look it up
what was the name of the site
wow
i read all about that but i dont think i saw chanman
Slasher got the brunt i guess
@worn falcon wraxu is probably the best hanzo main streamer
@blazing parrot Thanks, I'm watchin his stream

For anyone who would like to talk to me, ask me questions, announcements and such, feel free to join my discord!
Henzu (ex Vivi's adventure dps) said he found a new team but couldn't reveal the roster yet on stream yesterday. He also mentioned they were scrimming against helsinki reds and angry titans, not sure if that matters tho.
A new EU Scrub team meh
These new elevated Challenger teams kinda take away the fun from Apex for me tbh
No storyline ResidentSleeper
The only days I want to watch are when the old teams face each other
Flash lux 
omg

@knotty acorn cyberwaste 

"Fine, we'll give you mod, now leave us alone." ๐
I actually got mod on a sub because of that
They said please stop posting everyday
And gave me mod
I actually met a couple of the FC people during IEM Sydney and OWWC
Happy days
I just give everyone lip and occasionally be helpful with stats and such
Because NUMBERS ARE FUCKING AWESOME
You're awesome. ^5
I posted it


Only EU matches for today?
yep
also my dose of Kungarna getting shat on
contenders is live btw
it's never boring seeing nV stomped
when it's Rogue it's boring, not nV
some sick EU production
VERY sick
stream dying every 5 minutes xd
well, they run it on Windows 3.11 streaming computer, so no wonder
Bazooka getting stomped
Yeah I had to stop watching ๐
I tanked the hurricane!! thanks to everyone who prayed for me and my family while Irma was in Puerto Rico ๐ต๐ท.
at least one likeable guy in
is alive
@balmy wolf what about dogman?
he is not in the path of Irma....
@balmy wolf i meant likeable person in 
i'm ambivalent
Plz fire goldenboy
He needs to improve
And the way to do that is by giving him a chance to improve with contenders
i think he should had done the grind in other places other than contendes
then again, i don't think contenders s1 matters much
rip omm
oh ye forgot
btw, this dude comes here from time to time just post that
i'm not sure if it's reason enough to mute/ban or whatever
ABSOLUTE MEME-ITIS - 30.08.2017
Korea wins
Heh
ABSOLUTE MEME-ITIS - ะกะตะณะพะดะฝั ะฒ 14:38
Korea wins
ABSOLUTE MEME-ITIS - 01.09.2017
Korea wind
*wins
Bye

Feelsbad Sprite is offline
Draw is probably too busy having a life
I live
Eunited lul
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what was that dva ult
actually have a coach
this feels like when i was a complexity fan, all over again
except instead of one team is the whole scene
eunited throwing
what happened to eunited
wtf is happening
well, if i can't enjoy seeing
in NA playoff
at least i can enjoy seeing
NOT in EU playoff
is eunited going retarded
Maybe they can atleast beat bazooka puppies
LUL
An unfortunate crushing
LUL
jfc
Fischer with the Kobe impression
it's kinda sad the only matches Singularity didn't lose was with the new roster
somewhat sadder is seeing a thrown together team beating Eunited
still
Volskaya not over yeat
but Eunited is doing a very poor showing
things are looking in favor of SNG, but who knows
actually they won
the game that is
is so dumb
eunited
is going full retard
tbh
ROGUE INFECTING EUNITED
LULULUL
Eunited is having some of the good shit Rogue is having
eUnited throwing for skins
nah
my headcanon is that
and
sharing the same coke distributor
and their cocaine is contaminated
is just having one toxic escagots after another
or some mushrooms
They are kill
best team eu 
monteLUL
Dive comp in 2017 LUL
Eunited and Rogue are both trash now
are we in another universe?
Hopefully this game is more even
tviq wtf
TVIQ LUL
he has barages more often than mercy has rezes
Nerf misfits
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HYPERLUL DOOMFIST
because sombra is a pretty good counter to the comp that they're running
in theory
GO are a onetrick team
they suck the moment you shut down DF/force them off it
well
tried to use Doomfist
and hope that it'd take team off guard
but now everyone knows their tricks
it kind of fell apart
Why are dvas so suicidal ๐ข
Why would he play rein?
how go took a map?
misfits had really crappy engages
on hanamura
stayed in fights that they should have pulled out of
etc
BlessRNG I USED TO BE TheSojum BlessRNG BUT NOW IM Sena Youtarou BlessRNG
GO vs misfits 2-2 now
Jaysus
Sojum memes 

Carried
inb4 r/cow "he sucks xd misfits was bed team"
https://www.twitch.tv/warpmetagg just a bit shilling, but my team BBB going up against Bedtime Fugitives in the final of Xsolla eSports Academy Qualifier #1
he is basically our Tviq Jr
or tier 2 NA Fl0wer
and yes that included Junkrat
Kobe
taimoiGACHI

In 1.14 that won't be possible any more
Just an old build to keep contenders consistent
i thought so too
Oh my god
especially when envy used both support ults at once
but it all feel apart
cause effect is a god
Rip renegade
@limber pine 

A surprising result
Wait Eunited got 4-0'd? That's a kek
rogue FeelsBad
You said it
Rogue basically gone
At this point this is their level
Mid tier NA
Not OWL squad
I saw first three maps
Was close-ish
Lijiang was fun
Magachu carrying
They threw Kings Row
the stream has been meh all day
Haven't been my favorite games but I did like the envyus games
I'm so, so, so ready for World Cup at Blizzcon

ready for ๐บ๐ธ to destroy ๐ฐ๐ท
their collars stay poppin
Tfw missed Envy vs RNG
shadowburn is cool
How do u get burned in the shadow lol
Gaming laptop 
Omg I cant wait for the new nrg
They're terrible
have they announced the new nrg roster?
Only Sinatraa
Sinatraa is not announced it was a leaked by ESPN

What ESPN?
Sinatraa is not announced it was a leaked by ESPN
The dude himself already confirmed it lmao
Get on with the times
@thorn holly
Yeah Sinatraa retweeted the article himself and a congrats tweet from FCTFCTN >_>
Yeah he said so himself in his discord as well
Where's that "150k pog champ" chat snip by himself on Twitch chat
I know what ESPN is, but why would they we talking about ow.
they actually post a lot news about OW

btw, we haven't saw Orisa yet after DOOM patch did we?
Can I make a comment?I love this chat and everyone on it because it is like the twitch chat without the spam
Chat is dead
Feelsbad
I am not dead
logix omg
Did you guys just see that hanzo noreg
@wintry matrix which patch are you referring to?
the ones after DOOM
I mean RNG played Orisa troll comp one map
But we haven't gotten Orisa buffs yet in contenders
Bazooka Puppies at least is finishing maps
using trance to engage...


then can't barely mention Mickle without roasting him
Update from #DHMTL17
After apparently spending the night partying, IMT players showed up late to our match this morning
And again now
268
Apologies to #IMTCSGO fans. We will address this internally
Actions should have consequences. Thanks for enforcing the rules @DreamHackCSGO

maybe just aping the APEX format
i dunno, i think the old format allowed enough time for that
like, a break in the middle
don't expect
to act anything rational
mcgravy with some ,misplays
i don't think the title changes when you observe different players
since LGE disbanded envision has been my new fav team
cant wait for them to take a shot at envy
also, Left Guy appears to have improved as a desk analyst

carpes is a lil fucked up
yo this match was more one sided than NV vs RNG
meme manager, you mean
"keep agilities and kick everyone" you know Agilities is also underperforming right?
we don't keep calling him drunk for no reason
and now the new copypasta is asking for Nomy back
RIP agilities 
I wonder why
funnily enough @limber pine Nomy is even more garbage than Fate
Nomy in T2 was feeding all the time.
to the point when his team changed their main tank to literally someone else their whole team improved.
Envy's playing doomfist
that's why
neither grim nor agilites play DF particularly well
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
is envy a korean import?
imt has less team wipe potential without the genji though
no argument here
lulz
i mean, Immortals clearly thought they needed a doomfist, and clearly thought Envy was a better Doomfist than Agilities
why, we don't know

i thought grim used to be a top soldier
he was like dafran, but dafran could somewhat get away with his dumb playstyle because of Selfless agressiveness and his insane aim
and as Grim doesn't have insane aim, welp
tho grim today was way worse than he usually plays
in contenders he was the most consistent player on the team
how was he like dafran then
because Dafran often had shit ults
and not stellar positioning when selfless wasn't winning
like, dafran was only good because of his aim
GrimReality like Dafran what
that's what i just said
"but dafran could somewhat get away with his dumb playstyle because of Selfless agressiveness and his insane aim"
grim seems inconsistent
Rogue eliminated, Immortals overrated, the giants are eliminated, except for EnVyUs
they were doing pretty hot
Grim more consistent than agilities?
Really?
I thought Agilities is the most consistent
Grim and Agilities are both good but Agilities is a bit better imo




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