theres 123, C9, Gigantti, Eunited, GO all competing for those 2-4 spots
#esports-discussion
solid spear
balmy wolf
i cant wait to see :Kungarna: vs :envyus: thats pretty much my superbowl
hmm idk how to make their logos i guess
vestal mortar
Yeah
balmy wolf
oh. can i get a link?
blazing parrot
.
balmy wolf
thanks
limber pine
@wary falcon are you supposed to be passing out that invite link
balmy wolf
implying that Slasher cares
wary falcon
okey dokey lokey
blazing parrot
@limber pine kinda sucks tbh. everyones pretty acoustic over there
limber pine
I'll take your word for it
balmy wolf
The O.W is kind of memey these days
rather, too memey these days
the main chat is absolutely trash tier in term of content
the better conversations are having elsewhere
balmy wolf
i just want the emotes, im not good enough for the crew i see in it lmao
the main chat is like a brawl between a bunch of autistic people who thinks being memes and shit is cool
blazing parrot
respect woman pls
balmy wolf
also trying to get it in with a girl right now it seems
blazing parrot
dont worry @naive plover is a catfish
balmy wolf
lulz
wary falcon
if you want a good conversation - join general overwatch in-game chat
naive plover
trashing the server and calling it "trying to get it in with a girl" just because im a girl
seems fair
blazing parrot
wary falcon
that's it
balmy wolf
its not a slight at you aionee
wintry matrix
OW dad gaem
balmy wolf
does Paladins have following in the CIS scene?
balmy wolf
lolol
wary falcon
Paladins Premier League:
Renegades
Natus Vincere
Virtus Pro
Splyce
EnvyUs
mousesports
NiP
fnatic
G2
SK gaming
Autumn 2017
some kind of OWL for Paladins
balmy wolf
NIP investing in Paladins
blazing parrot
i would rather trust blizzard than high rez
wary falcon
game is more dead than CIS economics
balmy wolf
lol they collaborated with WESA. How much money did they gave WESA??
balmy wolf
"“Almost every new multiplayer game wants to be an esport. And some existing multiplayer games want to become the NFL overnight. My perspective is that esports will continue to grow but it can’t be forced. The Community decides what is an esport. Every publisher and league has a different model and perspective on the ‘right way’ to do esports. But the reality is that everyone is experimenting because this is such a new area. That is part of what makes it exciting. And hopefully, multiple models and publishers will continue to find success. A thriving and growing esports industry means more opportunities for game developers and professional players alike.”"
some existing multiplayer games want to become the NFL overnight
that shade
i still remember all the MLG talk playing unreal and halo 2
wary falcon
Cooller playing Quake
wary falcon
his former mix switched to Paladins
wintry matrix
quake dad game confirmed then?
wary falcon
all players from my discord are playing Paladins too
we had such a high hopes about OW.eu
wintry matrix
i've stopped playing since some Inara changes some patchs ago
balmy wolf
how much Paladins have in viewership anyway?
wary falcon
0 i guess
wintry matrix
how so?
wary falcon
i don't see why they decided to make Paladins teams
only money from Hi-Rez
it's a long story
about their management
balmy wolf
Smite and Paladins is barely tier 3 esport
peak viewers: 2.5K
up 600,000 from last week. wow
wary falcon
Paladins is barely tier 3 esport
weird
you know
Overwatch is Paladins on minimal settings
balmy wolf
the art style of Paladins is just ugly
it is overtly cartoonish without the refinement and polish that is OW's Pixar like style
wintry matrix
i wouldn't say it's ugly, it's just really lifeless, and generic as fuck
which doesn't help that the majority of heroes have also an uninspired visual design
so 90% of the game visually looks boring/generic as fuck
bomb king's cool tho
wintry matrix
lis?
blazing parrot
why doesnt comp ow make a mega thread for new lineup/new subs or lfts @limber pine
wary falcon
btw i still hope that VP will get mid-tier OW team
solid spear
Paladins has Cassie so automatically not ugly
wintry matrix
smh with the shit taste oreo
wow looks waaaaaay better
even more considering it started 10 years a go, and it's a mmorpg
solid spear
Shit taste? Hello?
wintry matrix
first of all not even saying Seris, second of all, Cassie is normie af
wintry matrix
afraid to fite me kid?
solid spear
Yes 
wintry matrix
clever portal
Is dafran going to stream today?
solid spear
Not sure
clever portal
All nighter and skip the McD shift tomorrow
blazing parrot
@solid spear go back to being hifumi pls
toxic yacht
Go back to
sturdy granite
🕯 Singularity 🕯
clever portal
Chitoge 🙏
sturdy granite
Oh wait, NVM. Singularity got ChrisTFer?
clever portal
Singularity is gone
sturdy granite
They have a new roster tho
clever portal
They're letting players play in their slot
sturdy granite
okay
clever portal
And they can't remove their name
blazing parrot
@vestal mortar ryuje is doing an AMA on inven. ask if hes single 👀
clever portal
taraGASM
sturdy granite
Now I get whats going on, that was a little confusing at first
blazing parrot
ryugasm
vestal mortar
clever portal
Yeah team is gone and disbanded
solid spear
Hifumi 
vestal mortar
I need to learn Korean and join some Lunatic Hai fan clubs
solid spear
LH fans 
vestal mortar
😏
clever portal
Soon you'll be sending cucumbers
vestal mortar
Lmao
blazing parrot
vestal mortar
I'm too nice to be an anti-fan
vestal mortar
🤔
solid spear
Tara gonna come after my man LTJ 
blazing parrot
inb4 oreo was the ex gf
clever portal
Ltj turtlegasm
solid spear
LTJ defintely the cleanest person on LH
solid spear
Bestest
blazing parrot
das gay
solid spear
blazing parrot
ltj is better than dafran
solid spear
Chill
solid spear
I said on LH
blazing parrot
toxic yacht
Kvo's mom has BEAUTIFUL TRACKING
solid spear
foggy cave
Someone here who was an admin for ow tournaments?
toxic yacht
nah, first oreo is gonna throw a tournament by dragonblading in spawn
before writing a twitlonger and quitting disocrd
solid spear
-_-
blazing parrot
all according to keikaku
solid spear
...
solid spear
np fam
balmy wolf
not my fault i swear
i just came back to the game today after 2 nearly 3 weeks without playing
solid spear
why would you come back when Junkrat is buffed 
balmy wolf
¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid spear
shoudlve taken a longer break
solid spear
wait wha
clever portal
Someone was asking where the announcement was for Dafrans return
solid spear
oh well I mean hes unbanned and he said hed stream during s6..I guess there was no official announcement
person deleted the question I guess I dont even see it lul....ghost ping
clever portal
I think they thought he got signed
solid spear
oh...no comment 
solid spear
Twitter
solid spear
nu
blazing parrot
yes
vestal mortar
yes
solid spear
well that would mean SNG would finish 5-2 
blazing parrot
season 1 of owl? @balmy wolf
toxic yacht
threw so hard he literally ruined his team
blazing parrot
who cares
toxic yacht
smh
toxic yacht
I do 
I liked Selfless
balmy wolf
People needs to stop pineing for Dafran
and whoever else that haven't play for a long while
vestal mortar
I liked Selfless too 😭
balmy wolf
lest they want to run into a LTJ situation
solid spear
unlucky
solid spear
Im talking about Selfless but k guess Selfless is a shit person
blazing parrot
vocal sky
Yo I still don't get y selfless disbanded
They had 2 of the best dps and players
Even after dafran left
solid spear
They didnt disband cuz of Dafran
Selfless dropped all of their games they were out regardless
hope was they would sell the team off to an OWL org but considering the only teams til today that have successfully been sold off are LH and LWB that obviously wasnt going to happen
Obviously didnt help that they didnt do well in Contenders with Emongg being forced onto Monkey, and Midnight having to sub in but Emongg said even if they did well they were getting dropped
blazing parrot
@solid spear they disbanded cause of dafran 
toxic yacht
shhh, stop speaking the truth
dafran threw so hard he literally killed selfless
okay?
sounds better
blazing parrot
nekokaraka
toxic yacht
nekopara killed selfless
clever portal
New emote?
toxic yacht
nah, pretty fuckin ancient
balmy wolf
spring lintel
Guys am I marketable enough to play with TviQ?
spring lintel
And tracer and zarya
solid spear
can you Lucio?
raw hatch
guys whos the best ana in the world ?
supple nymph
chips
spring lintel
Isnt it ryu
solid spear
Jehong
solid spear
Chips, Unkoe, Ryu are the guys youre gonna hear people tell you the most @raw hatch
supple nymph
or just rjh
rapid oxide
What a community manager has to do all day?
raw hatch
ty
blazing parrot
?
wintry matrix
it would be so funny if the avg r/ow player is way better than the avg r/cow player
blazing parrot
wouldnt be suprised
rapid oxide
lul csgo betting 
blazing parrot
Twitter
rapid oxide
About time to create a decent logo
blazing parrot
they already played junkertown
solid spear
700mb PTR update 🤔
rapid oxide
New spectator mode 
blazing parrot
who cares
i would be frustrated by overwatch too
games kinda stagnating and devs promised new change to season 6
for someone who used to love overwatch, would you not try it again?
balmy wolf
I feel like i should duck out competitive
supple nymph
what do you mean
blazing parrot
wintry matrix
why he's complaining? it looks like he hit before the blink
could be ping shenanigans
blazing parrot
on his screen he already blinked ahead and then got hit
if you see from his pov and not the kill cam
wintry matrix
that's why i said it could be ping shenanigans
supple nymph
Twitter
clever wagon
https://www.twitch.tv/taimoutv EnVy vs EnVision 6-stack for S6 placements
#2 with only S6 to kick it up 
wintry matrix
IRL dad game
wary falcon
2easy playing paladins now?
civic marsh
wintry matrix
he's so happy
wary falcon
poor spree
cunning cloak
clever wagon
His name says the disease
wintry matrix
tbh the winds in korea are pretty dope
clever wagon
Even worse than AIDS
Symptoms include shit memes thinking he's funny and types like a retard
clever wagon
@vestal mortar https://i.redd.it/gdrcwafq57jz.png
wintry matrix
genji 
solid spear
good on Blizz for listening a bit more
wintry matrix
seems a fine point, tho i'd still prefer live matrix
velvet scarab
blizz actually listening to community 
red anvil
Nah, jeff found out that he wasent able hold up DM so he needed a buff
wary falcon
blizz actually listening to community
they always listen
solid spear
I wasnt even referring to the general community theyve always at least listened to them, maybe too much for their own good
wintry matrix
wow, Reign's main tank is pulling 2k views
wary falcon
xqc?
wintry matrix
burnt token
just joined but apex does not have season 6 updates right?
wary falcon
you mean apex is playing on old patch?
clever portal
Did Dafran stream last night?
burnt token
thanks
toxic yacht
so playoffs are gonna be on the current patch, I think
forest raven
I feel so bad for KDU
blazing parrot
ryuje isnt getting married?
clever portal
Wtf is that pic
blazing parrot
which pic
the ryuje one?
its him saying "im not amazing lol im not getting married
wary falcon
clever portal
toxic yacht
now
solid spear
weebs
forest raven
R E K T
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix Acesofspades?
wintry matrix
yep
balmy wolf
lol
supple nymph
baby-handshakes https://clips.twitch.tv/FurtiveAbstemiousTarsierCmonBruh
balmy wolf
yesterday he did some Juv3nile impression whenever he played Reinhardt
at least it was in scrimmage
success rate was like 10%
shield shatter? Check. Shatter into grav and NOT EVEN STUNNED ANYONE? Check. Shatter the other team and let other Rein shatter the allies? Check. Both Rein shield shatter? Check
wintry matrix
we're both men moved by the instinct of deja vu
clever wagon
@balmy wolf
Shatter into grav and NOT EVEN STUNNED ANYONE? Check.
Thonk
How do you even miss a shatter into grav
balmy wolf
both of those gravs were elevated
clever wagon
vestal mortar
Jehong pls
solid spear
need xQc in OWL 
solid spear
Whoru listening to some quality shit
toxic yacht
xQc in OW league or riot
wary falcon
hey why top-1 asia in season-5 has only 40 games?
placement matches doesn't count or?
and he is pro player smurf right?
wintry matrix
is it?
wary falcon
you simply won't appear in leaderboards if you have 30 games for example
red anvil
whorus tracer seems so unreliable
blazing parrot
North America
8:00PM EDT / 02:00 CEST - 
Immortals vs. FaZe Clan 
10:00PM EDT / 04:00 CEST - 
EnVision Esports vs. Renegades 
wintry matrix
envision got the best team to continue their win streak
supple nymph
🗑
wary falcon
friendship with Envyus ended
now Envision is my friend
west cedar
@wary falcon if you play games where someone leaves before timer and game gets cancelled it doesn't say in the games played but still counts as 50 games for top 500
wary falcon
what about placement matches?
because it's hard to believe 10 from 50 his matches were canceled
and thanks by the way
wintry matrix
i don't think it's hard to believe
in fact, it's pretty easy to believe he may have used that exploit
wary falcon
win trading?
balmy wolf
solid spear
Contenders tonight 
balmy wolf
Doa/MonteCristo returns to deliver us from Goldenboy/Mr X?
carmine ermine
What the hell was that AF Blue vs. GC Busan game? First and Second place teams from last season go down to challengers
toxic yacht
because AF Blue still sucks, apparently
only reason why they got so far is because they got super lucky, as in S2
also, mano is gone
that's probably pretty big
solid spear
Apex is ass this season lol
T2 Korea is so overrated the quality of teams is wew
and that includes AFB
wary falcon
Apex is not the same without western teams
plus their best teams are going to play OWL next season
solid spear
yeah 2 of the 3 best Korean teams are already in OWL
toxic yacht
it's not a coincidence that apex group stages got worse the moment they started having 2 western teams
and now it's ass because there are no western teams anymore, lul
korean T2 is kinda :thonk, they don't make up for the best western teams getting invited lul
classic xQc, gotta watch his stream to get his pov
solid spear
unlucky
balmy wolf
He smiles?
This is so good LOL
I haven't had this much fun watching a stream in ages omg
balmy wolf
solid spear
Boston ZP confirmed 
balmy wolf
solid spear
Denial is complete shit not just in OW
balmy wolf
uh, Denial has had a long history of shady dealings way before the xQC stuff
solid spear
Same thing happened with some niggas in smash complaining about not getting paid
Have a rep as a shit org
balmy wolf
solid spear
I mean I've played this version of Roadhog for upwards of 5 hours sincr hes been on PTR hes defintely stronger and you can make certain plays you couldn't before with that 50% damage resistance, I still think hes generally underwhelming but hes better than last patch
So I'm happy about that at least
Even though I hate damage resistance in general
balmy wolf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6xho7v/latest_widow_buffs_are_cute_but_what_she_truly/ well, and then that troll follow up with this thread
balmy wolf
he is annoying in FFA and DM
he can just 1v1 anyone not because of his hook
but just merely because he can outlast everyone
solid spear
You can defintely 1v1 more things
And contest the point decently with that ehp
You kinda have the same problems where you still feed a shit ton and sometimes kinda just sit there not killing anything
balmy wolf
he is certainly a "tank" now
but again these kind of buffs nerfs is annoying and counter productive
balmy wolf
well if you take tank in the most basic of meaning ie damage absorbtion
but he doesn't really make space since well, his hook is not fragging out anymore
solid spear
Problem in this game is how much you get punished for absorbing damage
balmy wolf
the window of absorbing damage is low tbh
Zarya got her two bubbles and 400 dmg max
and without it she is fucked.
same with every other tanks.
and now Roadhog got a relatively higher damage absorbtion
but i don't believe that helps
solid spear
He still dies if you focus him, it's the 1v1 situations
wary falcon
Hog is still wasted spot on the team
judging from my placement matches
he is ok but you can pick better dps
or better tanks
solid spear
Cuz like when Tracer farms you for a bomb in 10 seconds, you can heal and only take 200
Hes better but he doesnt actually do anything for your team over other heros
solid spear
D.Va is getting buffed on PTR too
And Zarya is already really strong
It's hard to justify running him over one of those 2 or over an actual dps like Doom, or 76 or something
balmy wolf
RIP Selfless comp
solid spear
Well that Selfless comp has been garbage for a while even before they turned Hog into a meme hero
They were already attempting to transition to dive like other teams teams
balmy wolf
they only transitioned when Dafran was out of the picture
wary falcon
why not
solid spear
It's hard for people to stop talking about a god
wary falcon
we are talking here about ded gaem
limber pine
what if god was one of us 🎵
vocal sky
Yo dafran was a god u can't deny his talent
solid spear
They hate fam, he was the goat
blazing parrot
yea he was a goat
solid spear
solid spear
Hello
blazing parrot
solid spear
My emote 
solid spear
blazing parrot
hi gramps
oh oreo's emote
wanted to see what it was lol
i got my own emotes now sprite
im so happy
limber pine
Find a new dad
solid spear
Nuuu
limber pine
------------------------
NA Overwatch Contenders Week 3 Day 1 is live in 2 minutes!
Today's Matches
NA
8:00 PM EDT: Immortals vs FaZe Clan
10:00 PM EDT: Renegades vs EnVision
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchcontenders | http://www.mlg.tv/overwatch
solid spear
Hyped was the problem
balmy wolf
supple nymph
is faze a decentralized team or do they have a house
balmy wolf
@supple nymph currently at a hotel
solid spear
quad dps yum
limber pine
^^^^
smoky hinge
IMT hasn't looked to good most of contenders tbh
balmy wolf
usually what happened is they starts slow and pick up speed later.
supple nymph
maybe they worked better in the marathon format of s0?
smoky hinge
yeah, of course
supple nymph
but not so good preparing for specific matches?
limber pine
I don't think I've seen a meta with so much hero switching
supple nymph
seagull emotes so good
balmy wolf
C9'd
supple nymph
burnt nimbus
When pigs fly
feral solar
👏
supple nymph
stats
burnt nimbus
Damn, Fate is a pro feeder. I gotta learn from him
burnt nimbus
Golden boy is better when he is home
put DoA and Monte for casting ffs
ZP and X are ok too
raw hatch
fleet idol
is shadowburn in na right now?
raw hatch
no ana emoji 
fleet idol
blazing parrot
fleet idol
@blazing parrot let's laugh at the filthy casual 
raw hatch
blazing parrot
raw hatch
blazing parrot
fleet idol
blazing parrot
wintry matrix
how's the game so far? just came in
raw hatch
fleet idol
faze seems to be a lot better
blazing parrot
they c9ed a few points
wintry matrix
i really hope it's just temporary
balmy wolf
@burnt nimbus he has been in NA ffs
wintry matrix
IMT is one of the teams i had the most hope in it
balmy wolf
stop making these weird assumption that SDB isn't in NA
blazing parrot
@balmy wolf is he right now tho
burnt nimbus
man I dont know squat
balmy wolf
HE HAS BEEN IN NA SINCE LAST WEEK 
burnt nimbus
last week they said he wasnt
fleet idol
is there a faze team house?
blazing parrot
there you go
fleet idol
close enough lol
blazing parrot
lul
raw hatch
blazing parrot
lul rawkus
balmy wolf
more like lul Agilities
blazing parrot
why would rawkus chase after him
fleet idol
that's a great trade for immortals
wintry matrix
kobe ults
more kobe ults
carpe traveling the map
low-key c9
sound barries usually are more of shotcalling matter than player right?
solid spear
people using the term Kobe ult 
blazing parrot
wintry matrix
wow
blazing parrot
wew
burnt nimbus
it is a 4 map set but they gotta have a winner
burnt nimbus
1cp
zealous crypt
mirror comps are so fun to watch
wintry matrix
tbh this is kinda funny
zealous crypt
I can't tell if their pharah play is so good I'm not noticing it or 🤔
wintry matrix
it's average
burnt nimbus
Pharah vs Pharah is either super exiting or 100% ResidentSleeper
balmy wolf
SDB vs Agilities is pretty good tho
wintry matrix
sdb just free rn
zealous crypt
It's not even the pharah mirror it's..the severe lack of decision making idk
maybe i'm just a really shit pharah
zealous crypt
agilities punched winston and killed tracer 🤔
wintry matrix
tbh this could go either way
it's about who happened to choke atm
like IMT rn
so it is "quality analysis"
so fuck flame
welp
c9
zealous crypt
...
burnt nimbus
I wanted FaZe to win, but no like this
zealous crypt
..an actual Z9 🙀
burnt nimbus
IMT is the new C9
wintry matrix
if i were faze i'd rather try to improve than celebrate the victory
burnt nimbus
yea
wintry matrix
wonder what is happening with IMT
burnt nimbus
they won because IMT kept c9ing
solid spear
what a throw lol
wintry matrix
it feels like someone is going to get replaced
zealous crypt
exploiting the opponents weakness is afterall the easiest way to win
burnt nimbus
but a lot of moments FaZe was feeding a bit (mostly fctfctn)
balmy wolf
throwing harder than Shaq on the free throw line
solid spear
IMT has to win out, which isnt impoossible but they really put themselves in a shitty situation
with that Ilios throw
zealous crypt
..it's not over?
wintry matrix
Envision vs RNG after
sturdy granite
EZ 4 EV
solid spear
RNG 4-0
stoic carbon
When is Seagull team playing 😄
limber pine
huehue
supple nymph
wintry matrix
brbr
stoic carbon
Or is Mccree rareplayed in tournies?
wintry matrix
in our current meta he was not played at all
but he's been played a bit more recently
still not meta
but things could change
stoic carbon
lmfao
wintry matrix
by not played at all i meant before the doomfist patch
stoic carbon
That's why, thanks
supple nymph
wintry matrix
BlessRNG I USED TO IMAGINE BlessRNG BUT NOW I ENVISON BlessRNG
stoic carbon
haha Mercy Pharah vs Mercy Pharah
supple nymph
BlessRNG ONCE I WAS CAPSLOCKED BlessRNG BUT NOW I AM NUMLOCKED BlessRNG
clever wagon
LMAO WTF IMMORTALS
supple nymph
sherlocky getting picked so many times
wintry matrix
man, if RNG can't win with mangchu on pharah, tehn it's just hopeless
stoic carbon
is nrg popular ? o.o
clever wagon
Its like they came once so quickly soon after adding the Koreans and cant go on anymore
sturdy granite
nrg lul?
wintry matrix
rip 5 Hour NRG Detroit Randon Number Generators
supple nymph
wintry matrix
kappapride
sturdy granite
EZ4EV
wintry matrix
man, if Envi puts a fight against eNvy is gonna be so hype
exactly like Apex s2 Runaway and LH
or LW Blue
wintry matrix
mangachu tracer
balmy wolf
now I know that stop caring
wintry matrix
remember that push on point a where corey threw a mine on the gate and just shoot at it for no reason
E S C A P I N G U L T
mcgravy with some soon bombs
numlocked still dies way too much[
supple nymph
ok
wintry matrix
PLAT STRAT LES GO BOI
supple nymph
NOW is the throw
wintry matrix
this is the stuff reverse sweeps are made of
limber pine
wut is wrong with life
balmy wolf
nevermind
wintry matrix
geez
almost had me scared for a moment
but i'd be worried if i was Envision
YEHA
PLAT POTG
ok, now that RNG given up, just go nuts
i want the nuttiest comp they can come up with
wintry matrix
i kinda wish it was no limits so they could just go 6 bastions
yeah, that's why i said worried
maybe not playing against that comp often made them unprepared
but still
i wouldn't be surprised if nV pulled that when Envision fights them
wintry matrix
not soe tho
zealous girder
woah guys we can see LUL emote in chat without BTTV now
its integrated into twitch
sturdy granite
Slowpoke
blazing parrot
zealous girder
clever portal
Looks good
Hopefully they use the guest room
Otherwise it looks like only two rooms
wintry kraken
no. he received a bugfix
wintry matrix
btw, apparently IMT never won with Envy
wary falcon
uhm bugfix
is his fist hitbox still as large as hanzo arrow?
or Blizzard decreased hitbox
storm snow
they decreased the hitbox
clever wagon
Who said that?
clever portal
It's a meme
When soccer players follow things on Instagram/facebook
People start making rumours
balmy wolf
Hi
clever portal
rapid oxide
rapid oxide
blue
wintry matrix
probably bc they are going to make a super team
tbh i just want them to get fucked after the luna stuff
rapid oxide
"From a business perspective, H2K addressed how it’s suffering annual losses of over €1 million due to how the EU LCS is operated—which is something that the organization can’t continue to go through." why we need franchising in overwatch? 
wintry matrix
were they specific why they're losing money?
rapid oxide
Sadly, however, from a business perspective we consider it irrational to continue in a partnership where our partner earns very substantial annual profits while, by contrast, we incur annual losses of over €1,000,000. The financial arrangement between RIOT and the teams is unfortunately backward and upside down. The fact is that most League of Legends teams lose money. Operating costs continue to increase dramatically and RIOT’s team compensation only covers a small fraction of those costs. In essence, team losses are subsidizing the marketing activities of a multi-billion dollar company.
pubg 100k more players than dota 
balmy wolf
It is less that EU LCS is bad but rather Riot is just bad at organizing
rapid oxide
RIOT isnt the only org neglecting EU
balmy wolf
there's a reason some people pushed for franchising
since this model is kind of unsustainable
it is not like in itself it is unsustainable
as much as Riot is just shit at sharing revenue
hence why you have Fnatic of all people applying for an NA LCS franchise slot
but they have no plan to franchise the EU LCS tho
and TSM/G2 reportedly making losses in their team as well
so
rapid oxide
is what owl franchising want to fix
most of esport org in other esport operates on a loss
prizepool means fucking shit
rapid oxide
esport can't live forever like that
and it's the reason it's not evolving/going mainstream
wary falcon
it's a mainstream already?
rapid oxide
no
balmy wolf
over 100 applicants for NA LCS
how many of them are sport team looking to get in I wonder
rapid oxide
aware...
wary falcon
news about cybersport on main page of most popular russian sport site
on regular basis
on picture: Fear returns to EG.Dota2
rapid oxide
can't see big tv shows, tv advertisement, powerfull team brand on sale, moneys, tv channel for esport
balmy wolf
Russia weirdly enough is one of the more forward country in term of esport exposure
wary falcon
well
rapid oxide
wary falcon
we have cybersport on TV
wary falcon
you can actually see ads on TV
- slang/memes from cybersport/videogames are everywhere here
rapid oxide
russia is not all the world
everyone is aware who's cristiano ronaldo and what real madrid is
wary falcon
i think Dendi will give him run for a money in my city
rapid oxide
don't want to sound rude
what kind of sport russia is suppose to talk about?
well... good that russia esport is mainstream
but it's not for the rest of the world
(KR is mainstream already)
quaint stirrup
when r the next world cup games?
fiery swallow
Besides Korea, Esports isn't seen as a serious thing.
fiery swallow
Bc getting 40+ people to the US isn't easy.
forest raven
Because it's during Blizzcon
rapid oxide
@fiery swallow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMZ2QFLrLvk
fiery swallow
I've seen it in recomended i never watched it though.
rapid oxide
go 3:50
wary falcon
dunno about other sports in Siberia
it's better to sit home and play Paladins than try to kick frozen ball while -35 outside
fiery swallow
But yeah, outside of korea there is no promotion to anyone who already isn't in the community.
wary falcon
you mean friendship over skill?
fiery swallow
And as far as it goes, It only really became a thing in 98/99 which is relatively new.
quaint stirrup
we should stop dissing paladins and thank them for sucking all the little kids towards them and away from overwatch beacuse its a f2p game
wary falcon
dissing paladins?
quaint stirrup
sucking
wary falcon
my dear, Overwatch is Paladins on minimal settings
quaint stirrup
WOAH
rapid oxide
it's a decent ripoff 
fiery swallow
Paladins is floaty and nowhere near as tight as overwatch.
wary falcon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/311807326908841986/353569866105487362/unknown.png
well i even tried for a little bit
so basically i'm expert of Paladins
fiery swallow
I don't see esports becoming a thing in the mainstream in a minimum of 10-15 years.
wary falcon
ask me anything
rapid oxide
it's not terrible
but ow is way more polished as shooter
maybe paladins is more polished strategically
fiery swallow
You get what you pay for.