Probably
#esports-discussion
solid spear
nice mobile
pine star
Bloody hell
solid spear
Mykl isnt leaving btw
wintry matrix
i meant Mykle yes
solid spear
hes still there
wintry matrix
aw
blazing parrot
MY NAME IS MICHAEL
wintry matrix
i'll be somewhat surprised if it aint cwoosh
pine star
I NEED SPICY NEWS
blazing parrot
what happen with misfits
wintry matrix
actually not, they need a main tank
solid spear
solid spear
wait Sulli
blazing parrot
solid spear
what is this toxic ass name
pine star
What do you mean?
wintry matrix
clever portal
blazing parrot
solid spear
pine star
balmy wolf
Mykl and Babybay won't be pick up by anyone
their hero pool is too small
and also the stigma attached to them
solid spear
I dont think the roster is gonna get picked up at all
better off looking for individual trials if possible
balmy wolf
basically.
wintry matrix
i agree with reign, mostly because they aren't good enough to warrant that
balmy wolf
why get Babybay when you can get Selly, for example.
why get Mykl when you can get Claris or Munchkin
wintry matrix
but i don't think that's their past that stopping them from getting signed
pine star
mykL is one toxic little cunt
solid spear
Babybays pool isnt even that bad
hes just kinda Soldier one tricking cuz Mykl has been stuck on Tracer
hes playing a lot of Zarya in scrims nowadays
balmy wolf
Mykl used to play D.va but that was half a year ago.
if Dreamkazper is in the team
Mykl probably will play D.va again
balmy wolf
weakness is that their hero pool is limited and of course their one tricking mentality.
people said 
is inflexible while literally only have one comp
and they run it again and again
solid spear
Babybay can Soldier/Tracer/Zarya/McCree but 2 of those heros sucked last meta and the other Mykl was stuck on cuz hes shit on most heros
which lead him to just being a 76 bot
either way I think theres better options than them
solid spear
that moment when we probably wont actually hear about it at 3 cuz thatd be too convinient
simple verge
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
clever portal
supple nymph
Twitter
solid spear
balmy wolf
Rogur swap Winz fot Kolsti 
balmy wolf
something must have happen with Bischu
vestal mortar
๐ค
solid spear
I mean literally half their team was trialing for OWL teams
idk either stuff fell through
or its a temporary thing
guess well know in an hour 
jagged crater
it's the goddamn dogman!
balmy wolf
shadders tweet 
blazing parrot
solid spear
I mean I guess it could be a Ill play with you in your matches til you find a proper 6th sort of deal
rapid oxide
How you quote on discord?
rapid oxide
So how can i see it on mobile too? 
toxic yacht
I was about to ask that, could be that it just formats shit to look like quotes
solid spear
you dont need the plugin to see it
just to use it
it adds a quote button next to the reactions button
pine star
WHAT IF ROSTERS ARE NOT DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE THE DEADLINE AND WE HAVE TO WAIT 3 DAYS TO FIND OUT????
โ โ โ 
โ โ โ
solid spear
thats an L then tbh
rapid oxide
Sombra countdown 
solid spear
tmw we wont get news at 3 
rapid oxide
In 5 minutes "Roster are submitted, see you in contenders"
vestal mortar
spring lintel
Word of mouth that NRG's roster is better than rogue's
solid spear
._.
balmy wolf
For the Contenders rosters
spring lintel
Oh
zealous girder
Guys which discord server has the #protalk
zealous girder
and I heard you need to be top500 to join it well i've been top 300 for the past 2 seasons AND I WANT IN BOISS
clever portal
I'm not sure if top 500 is enough
zealous girder
that's what I heard ๐ฆ FeelsBadMan
is it a whole discord sever or just 1 channel?
clever portal
It's a server with team emotes
Top 500 will give you a yellow name
There's a lot of channels
zealous girder
Is it private? if not link pls?
rapid oxide
Polo is/was top 500 iirc but doesn't have protalk privileges
You have to be in a tier 2 team atleast
rapid oxide
Wish when im done working and check phone, all the juicy stuff happened already 
Cya in 8h
balmy wolf
tfw deadline 1 hour ago and only confirmed roster since is EnV
vestal mortar
๐ข
toxic yacht
balmy wolf
Well we already got EnV
solid spear
lol thinking Sulli is wrong
solid spear
thats an L
pine star
You're an L
solid spear
I love you too
pine star
Ew gross
clever portal
Oreo 
balmy wolf
more like ore-ew
solid spear
toxic yacht
@clever portal stop impersonating oreo you horse
clever portal
solid spear
smh
blazing parrot
i like these marketable videos
pine star
I just watched IMT's one
balmy wolf
JAKE not in LGE team house 
toxic yacht
lol who here isn't watching overview?
pine star
Kariv is actually insane 
toxic yacht
nice mobile
vestal mortar
Heh
solid spear
we heard you the first time smh
hallow fable
yours crash too, when openiing vidoes?
toxic yacht
lmfao
solid spear
LUL
clever portal
Sulli 
pine star
toxic yacht
sulli no
vestal mortar
DO IT
toxic yacht
we're likely not getting anything but chat is funny
vestal mortar
Aw
vestal mortar
lmao
hallow fable
what show?
supple nymph
solid spear
vestal mortar
๐ค
clever portal
Some news atleast
when I wonder
balmy wolf
wow
"as our substitute for @PlayOverwatch Contenders Season 1!"
"as our substitute for one @PlayOverwatch Contenders Season 1 match!"*
torpid jacinth
wintry matrix
do you mean what meta is it rn?
it's a bit stale, strict dive meta, lucio, zen, winston, dva, soldier and tracer
sometimes an ana, sometimes a soldier
vestal mortar
Sometimes Sombra
wintry matrix
some teams are using zarya, but it's a bit early to tell if it's going be a more flexible
smoky hinge
Sometimes a Genji
vestal mortar
Sometimes Pharmercy
smoky hinge
Some teams arent using meta heroes as much in KR though
vestal mortar
And Contenders will be on the new patch so it might change up a small bit, we'll see!
solid spear
I sleep
vestal mortar
Nighty night
zealous girder
guy's btw whats up with C9?
why is surefour allowed to try out for other rosters?
last lantern
bcuz C9 signed LK
waxen root
because c9 picked up LK including Alicus
blazing parrot
hes not allowed to leave c9
solid spear
well...
hes contracted with them
but he did say he is allowed to tryout for other rosters
contract jail ain't bad
pseudo sail
btw icymi LH has a second team now:
https://twitter.com/RadoNonfire/status/897592117744332803
toxic yacht
Lunatic Bai
balmy wolf
https://www.overwatchcontenders.com/en-us/schedule roster checking time
balmy wolf
Sinatraa being nV sub lol
meanwhile got Gods, Dreamkazper and Goliath as subs
has xRetzi
has SUREFOUR as sub and iukeee as coach
while 
has Dummy and Enigma 
Carpe is in btw
and Cwoosh actually plays tank for 
along with Logix
Zebbosai back to main support
toxic yacht
wtf
balmy wolf
btw
the Casters and Talents for 
are
Mr. X
ZP
Sideshow
Goldenboy
Chris Puckett
Brennon Hook of Takeover 2
limber pine
but not hosting
balmy wolf
ikr
they brought in Christ Puckett and Mr.X from MLG side
but i'm not quite sure if it is a good choice
we are going to have to deal with ZP/Mr.X/Goldenboy/Hook casting combinations
balmy wolf
his main gig is COD tho
toxic yacht
there are better choices, but he has been at pretty much every major event
glacial sleet
agilities and grim are hella good
but enyvus has sinatra and taimou
also mickie is a pretty good winston
balmy wolf
newsday just happen that's what
pine star
balmy wolf
somehow
we meme'd it into a reality
he made space with blade
and now he literally will make space with his role
balmy wolf
MLG talent
pine star
Fuck him
balmy wolf
well Pesto certainly thought it lol
pine star
Where my boy JKap at? reeeeeeeeeeee
balmy wolf
Mr X and Goldenboy casting fucking NA game is going to be weird
@clever wagon a new era
pine star
This is absolute bullshit
pine star
It was obvious to be honest
clever wagon
LH flipping the whole region over 
pine star
ez 1 million for Jehong
Oh wait
Wait
Wait
Goldenboy and Mr X CASTING?
Wtf is Blizzard smoking
balmy wolf
gotta shove down our throat those MLG talents man
Goldenboy and Mr X is going to be absolutely shit at casting
solid spear
Can't even take a nap smh
sturdy granite
Sleep is for the weak
wintry matrix
like, i get it that you want to grow talent
but contenders is supposed to be the top regional league
also,
solid spear
also Cocco said Sinatraa is just an emergency sub
wintry matrix
why the fuck would misfits bench their good main tank for A DPS? CWOOSH? WHY
solid spear
just like how Sinatraa used to be an IMT emergency sub
pine star
lol I member
wintry matrix
yeah, sinatraas pool isn't really what nv need
pine star
Grim on Zen 
solid spear
and because you dont know everything that happens inside
its so easy to be like lol Misfits dumb when you know nothing about the team environment
wintry matrix
i'm not saying benched reinforce was dumb
balmy wolf
why Cwoosh, tbh
wintry matrix
bringing a player with no tank experience to be tank is dumb
balmy wolf
he better do some Miro shit on it
balmy wolf
Reinforce is one of the most consistent player in and they are benching him out for a DPS turn tank
so it is questionable for me
do have a coach??
wintry matrix
no
balmy wolf
well fucking hell then
solid spear
lol yall dont get it
when you look at the amount of space Cwoosh created on Genji
think about the space he could create on Winston
clever wagon
Did you forget one of the things we discussed about Misfits here when TakeOver 2 was running?
Player-ran team!
balmy wolf
as Scribe noted, Dreamkazper run Tempo Storm and look how shit it was
double salary and complete control
meanwhile 
has Kruise acting as dictator and still get result so ๐คท
solid spear
also with Kungarna
wintry matrix
boombox ๐
solid spear
their roster Im pretty sure is still in flux
theres players on contenders teams that are trying out for other teams lol its messy
wintry matrix
"I had been thinking for a while about switching to the tank role. I really enjoy playing tank and I think the skillset of Genji which is a lot about positioning and game-sense will transfer very well to tank, especially Winston. I chose it for myself as a challenge and something new and fresh to dig my teeth into."
so maybe he will pull a Gods
blazing parrot
has this been posted here
wintry matrix
yes
blazing parrot
meh
solid spear
Cwoosh on main tank 
wintry matrix
now that i think, i do wonder if LH will scrim against NA teams, and if that will help them
solid spear
scrimming against NA helping LUL
wintry matrix
as in helping the NA teams
btw, now we have true esports: https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6twh9h/noukky_organizes_copa_del_boop_lucioball/
balmy wolf
btw
Carpe on at one point i suggested that it was a potential pick up for them
and now it happened
FeelsGoodMan
sturdy granite
congratulation, you done it
solid spear
damn a bronze medal
wintry matrix
you'd have to wonder at which point all these contenders subs are actually players or just temporary subs
solid spear
Kungarna and RNG are the only teams as far as I know who actually scrimmed with the subs ever
Im like pretty sure a lot of this is temporary stuff since a lot of players arent in Contenders
but people are still trying out for all kinds of rosters I wouldnt look at certain stuff too much
balmy wolf
S4 and Sinatraa probably are just emergency subs
solid spear
Sinatraa is confirmed to emergency sub by Kyky/Cocco
I am pretty sure S4 is the same thing
kungarna I dont know their situation its weird, Bischu explicitly said a couple days ago he was leaving Kungarna but here he is...still think it may be a I'll play with you til you get your shit together kind of thing but thats me speculating
RNG was using Retzi as a sub when Mangachu was at WC so that doesnt surprise me,
wintry matrix
he said it? i missed it
solid spear
I mean its kinda been known for a while but he explicitly said on his stream
"I dont want to waste Kungarnas time since I know Im trying out for OWL teams"
and here he is on their season 1 roster 
wintry matrix
never thought he would be on OWL
well, it either fell out, or the deals' been delayed
solid spear
hard to say 
wintry matrix
or kungarna didn't find a replacement soon
wintry matrix
i dunno, from what i say he was decent, but not a star
solid spear
even though hes Korean 
wintry matrix
coolmatt tho
solid spear
Bischu is a lot more than decent lol
people just dont hear the name enough
iRemix and Bischu are the reason Kungarna are as good as they are, easily their best players
solid spear
._.
limber pine
nobody can be happy
solid spear
Twitter
pine star
Twitter
wintry matrix
i love these kinds of conversation where it seems the person isn't really even bother to listen to you not matter what you say
pine star
NRG Shadder 
wintry matrix
like a telltale game
wintry matrix
it would be funny if just for contenders 1 they allowed shit like no limits
solid spear
Nigga pls
wintry matrix
i mean, wouldn't it?
solid spear
We dont need this
wintry matrix
for funsies
balmy wolf
also in that replies thread
bunch of people thought that a year old art has unreleased heroes
smh casuals
Twitter
balmy wolf
Misery likes company
also, boot camp https://www.over.gg/5223/faze-replace-lui-with-carpe-add-surefour-on-bench-and-head-to-bootcamp-for-contenders
wintry matrix
lui
pine star
LULi
pine star
For sure
solid spear
These next couple weeks are gonna be interesting 
solid spear
Koreans keep stealing Luis job
pine star
Damn Koreans 
sturdy granite
Koreans, in my NA Tournament?
solid spear
sturdy granite
it's more likely than you think
solid spear
.-.
clever wagon
Overwatch casuals being so goddamn ignorant really opens my eyes for a new low in people
solid spear
hopefully theyll know more in time
sturdy granite
I see more and more people getting curious about the esports scene. In that case, we shall be the teachers, lol
clever wagon
I'm usually more welcoming to those that come with questions and at least show curiosity, not those that come flaunting ignorance, throwing assumptions, and not even ask where they can learn more
People like those usually end up looking obnoxious from the get go
And more often than not, that first impression doesn't improve
sturdy granite
Anyone thinks there is a chance we get a second Korean OWL roster?
balmy wolf
if Samsung/SK Telecom/KT Kolster invest in, maybe
balmy wolf
rapid oxide
Kespa will join season 2 imo
Waiting to see how OWL will be first season
Don't expect anything from them now
@wary falcon i belive because he's into contract hell
solid spear
S4 isnt really on the team , a lot of teams are gonna have subs whonarent really part of the roster cuz so many people are avaiable
red anvil
๐
wary falcon
I expect S4 to be on team and Sdb be on the bench/kicked
clever portal
Saw the rosters
Only Misfits is really new
Players as subs don't mean anything
As people don't sub in NA
clever portal
Lul, would be good
Good thing I probably can't watch NA anyway
Left guy/Goldenboy/Mr X casting 
red anvil
Poor lui tho, koreans keep taking his job
red anvil
Obvious troll is obvious
clever wagon
Has Misfits locked in their new roster?
bitter remnant
yeah
clever wagon
I only saw Cwoosh on tank
clever wagon
Zuppeh from RiP to Misfits 
bitter remnant
Flag Diversity 
clever wagon
Well, at least Cwoosh is now finally on a role which main job is to create ๏ผณ๏ผฐ๏ผก๏ผฃ๏ผฅ
bitter remnant
I had been thinking for a while about switching to the tank role. I really enjoy playing tank and I think the skillset of Genji which is a lot about positioning and game-sense will transfer very well to tank, especially Winston. I chose it for myself as a challenge and something new and fresh to dig my teeth into.
clever wagon
Meme'd into reality ๐๐ป
clever portal
Sojum right now 
solid spear
people have putting way too much into the subs thing
clever wagon
KappaPride
solid spear
these niggas are bored and jobless and available doesnt mean theyre actually on the team
clever wagon
That callout is "come dumpster for heals"-tier
bitter remnant
dicks on every map 
clever portal
bitter remnant
Oh my
now that is some flag meta right there
all it needs now is a SK player and they would be all set
smoky hinge
:O this site is pretty cool, I didn't know there was a site for contenders
bitter remnant
I'm pretty hyped for Saturday rn 
clever portal
balmy wolf
TviQ no longer a tracer bot 
clever portal
Time to see my boy Tviq play everything
balmy wolf
Still a really big deal
red anvil
Pls dont let my LH bois get destroyed by western lazyness ๐
true tide
Doubt that, hard.
red anvil
Alicus just teased LH picking up someone else, inb4 SBB and flower ๐
clever wagon
Aren't they still locked in LWB for the rest of APEX S4 though
clever wagon
Right
toxic yacht
LH should have bought the contenders spot
clever wagon
That's gonna be another "Rogue LH again ResidentSleeper "
forest raven
@balmy wolf That react is accurate
balmy wolf
Just as it has been for the last 2 days of apex
forest raven
The only thing interesting about tonight is seeing the first female player in APEX
And that will cease to be interesting in a few minutes
balmy wolf
why do these groups even exist really
balmy wolf
A is obvious, B is pretty obvious and C is a little less obvious but still very predictable
forest raven
AFB beats shit teams then rolled by legitimately good teams
balmy wolf
But 2nd in group is interesting
ngl AFB getting all these shit teams in groups kind of fucks them
they dont get good serious practice
sure there's scrims but
red anvil
AFB dont even got mano to carry them anymore
balmy wolf
when you just roll all teams to playoffs its not good
red anvil
KDP got lucky
red anvil
Group A was group of death
balmy wolf
its not the that the people that are out of the group of death are lucky
its that the people in it are unlucky
red anvil
well KDP lost vs the one team that was not supposed to get to the second groups
balmy wolf
(which just happens to always be the Western team that isnt Envy)
balmy wolf
It's probably going to be Runaway, LH, Panthera, Uncia, AFB, LWR, LWB and X6
clever portal
Women can't play games BabyRage
balmy wolf
Matches worth watching in OGN APEX Season 4 Group Stage #1: Runaway vs Lunatic-Hai, LW Red vs ROX Orcas and Conbox vs X6
clever wagon
Season 2 was Ilios-spree for over 90% of KotH phase, is it Nepal now?? Thonk
Lemme see some Oasis BabyRage
forest raven
Fuck sake ArHaN
clever wagon
Geguri starting off as the DVa bot
red anvil
was to be expected
clever wagon
ArHaN LUL
clever portal
ArHan LUL back?
clever wagon
Too busy focusing on Orcas members and didn't evade Geguri's self destruct in time
AFB still won the first point though
EscA still hasn't had his military service right?
true tide
Nope.
clever wagon
He's supposed to in the near time or something is what I remember
toxic yacht
EnVy was in the group of death back in S1, I guess that S2 and S3 groups existed to make them feel better?
clever wagon
Think LTJ will sub for him since WhoRU and Gido aren't igl material
true tide
Yeahhhh we finally got it!
clever wagon
Unfriendly person, reform needed
Consecutive 2 seasons of the same T2 groups make them look less stellar than it doing them a huge favor
balmy wolf
easy money 
clever wagon
Geguri not going Zarya in King's Row
true tide
my god
clever wagon
After that 5K DVa doesn't seem worth it
Reinhardt 2-2-2 with DVa against a Rein-Zarya combo ๐ค
Why even
clever wagon
Not so much actually throwing as it's playing as his usual self
toxic yacht
ArHaN is my city
clever wagon
She's back to DVa
true tide
But why
clever wagon
Thonk
THE DOOMFIST PLAY
ArHaN bomb Thonk
Put pulse bomb on a DVa while their Zen is mid-Transcendence while not paying attention to Matrix Thonk
crimson rain
that grav tho sheesh
red anvil
a bit healthier meta at least
clever wagon
Goddamn Orcas feeding Kalios' grav just as hard if not harder than Brazil and NZ fed Sinatraa
What the fuck
Mfw Wikipedia still putting up this false Blizzcon bracket https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overwatch_World_Cup_2017&action=edit§ion=17
Smh
red anvil
it was on OW pages
red anvil
i would say there was credible sources for that bracket
clever wagon
Was just trying to quickly find group G members but then I saw that
You don't think 3 days after random drawing was announced it would be updated Thonk
But well, who cares
clever portal
Wasn't the redraw stuff a random source?
Like someone's Twitter or stream
Until they get more professional and announce shit
There's going to keep being mistakes
crimson rain
why does rox not have any tanks rn???
crimson rain
nvm they just changed
clever wagon
Nate Nanzer himself announced at the end of Santa Monica stage along with the trophy interview with Malik that August 28 will be live bracket drawing for Blizzcon
clever wagon
The initial quarterfinal bracket images was out from one of the sources being Jake
clever portal
Before that it was just rumours
No, the initial ones were on stream
I remember seeing it
clever wagon
Was it really confirmed though
What I remember was it still was surrounded with doubts of being a placeholder or w/e
true tide
Arhan.
feral solar
clever wagon
Sad for me to say but my hype really fell off that now World Cup is gone until November
I guess it's because the lack of storylines from these T2-T3 Korean teams
And Contenders is still 4 days 
๐ซ
bitter remnant
I'm pretty hyped for contenders
clever wagon
Recry looks so ResidentSleeper
bitter remnant
I can handle a week without western OW
clever wagon
Damn, the marketable IMT video is hype
Just noticed Kariv actually uses English OW client
red anvil
Western weebo
clever wagon
The boy Kariv, from MAOD to kickin' ass with IMT 
forest raven
From beating KDP to losing to Rogue FeelsOkayMan
stray minnow
heya guys , when world cup continue?
balmy wolf
November 3rd
toxic yacht
More like from losing to Rogue to losing to Rogue on a better team
forest raven
Yeah but KDP > Rogue
toxic yacht
I meant that he lost to Rogue back on AOD
forest raven
Yeah ik
bitter remnant
I wonder if this will be a series or another 3-0verwatch
It was kinda scrappy so I wouldn't be surprised with flash lux taking a game
stray minnow
@Poelo Dameron thanks
toxic yacht
@Poelo Dameron u poopoohead
balmy wolf
np @stray minnow
bitter remnant
NA ult 
bitter remnant
I kinda feel bad for flash lux rn
they are against their easiest opponent
and are getting broken
and tilted
balmy wolf
more like FlashShit
balmy wolf
4-29
bitter remnant
forest raven
Overwatch APEX Season 4
https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal
Group Stage #1
Qualified:
Group A: 
Lunatic-Hai 
RunAway
Group B: 
Cloud9 KongDoo 
Nc Foxes
Group C: 
LW Red 
GC Busan
Group D: 
X6-Gaming CONBOX
Group Stage #2
Qualified:
Group A: Cloud9 KongDoo Nc Foxes
Group B: 
RunAway 
GC Busan
Semifinals
RunAway vs. RX Foxes 4-0
GRAND FINALS
๐ฐ๐ท GC Busan vs. RunAway ๐ฐ๐ท
๐ฐ๐ท GC Busan WINS APEX SEASON 4 4-3
balmy wolf
Have fun updating that
forest raven
I will
balmy wolf
at least you dont have to watch the matches
forest raven
I tried having two groups to the same line but the formatting is totally fucked in pins
balmy wolf
Yeah I remember formatting problems when I tried to make pins for tournaments
Meta Athena
I wonder if Sayaplayer really want that NA deal back now
pine star
๐ฏ
I read somewhere that the environment for foreign OPC teams is brutal, not unlike the situation with Apex except OPC is much longer. Don't blame them if that's the only reason why they're not going.
balmy wolf
thats why they shouldnt be so long
toxic yacht
๐ฏ for Aetar, he is the fucking strong
clever portal
They have a house
It's just people who don't have experience living away from home
Also I guess they feel alone in Taiwan
Should be alright after a year
balmy wolf
living in OPC is at least better in APEX in a sense that you will at least have a house
which is more than any Western teams can say in APEX'
with the hotel rooms
and rather short stay
pine star
At least for OWL S2, all of them are gonna have the same advantages/disadvantages with home and away matches
In theory at least
forest raven
APAC Premier 2017
https://www.twitch.tv/playoverwatch
Group Stage
Group A:
MVP Space: 10-2 - Qualified
Flash Wolves: 7-5 - Qualified
Group B:
Afreeca Freecs: 12-0 - Qualified
Blank Esports: 6-6 - Qualified
Playoffs
Quarterfinals:
Miraculous Youngster vs. Blank Esports 4-1
RunAway vs. MVP Space 4-2
GC Busan vs. Flash Wolves 4-0
1246 0-4
Semifinals:
GC Busan vs. Afreeca Freecs 4-0
Grand Finals:
RunAway vs. GC Busan
๐ฐ๐ท GC Busan wins APAC 
PREMIER 2017 4-1
Full schedule can be found at:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/APAC_Premier/2017
balmy wolf
I feel like 
is over reaching themselves with this worldwide league with home/away game
forest raven
balmy wolf
teams in NA aren't going to have much trouble but EU and Asia team? Are they going to travel in 8+ flights every other week or so?
that's why conference exists in NA sport for a reason
balmy wolf
an ideal set up would be OWL Oceanic Conference, OWL China/KR Conference, EU Conference and lastly NA Conference
where all of the teams has to fight people in their conference twice a year and occasional dabbing in other conferences
the inaugral season is just going to be in LA tho so ๐คท
bitter remnant
you mean how pretty much all other esports work with regions right?
Its just blizz wanted to be "cool" and region free
balmy wolf
only in LoL, mate
balmy wolf
DOTA2 and CSGO operates in majors system where it is technically regions free, but their systems doesn't force people to fly every other week or so.
bitter remnant
technically region free I suppose
balmy wolf
since everyone either qualify in online or in a LAN in both of them
balmy wolf
well
choked the shit out of the NA tournament scene
while Asia got 3 fucking LAN leagues going at the same time
buffing other regions in fucking deed
balmy wolf
EU got like one LAN but that was it
bitter remnant
yeah
balmy wolf
so at least EU got something
NA got shit for LAN after Winter Premiere
and that LAN was horrible.
toxic yacht
Well, therefore EU had nothing to look forward to for like, 6 months straight
While NA got consistent online tournaments until contenders, so that was something
balmy wolf
OMMs in hindsight wasn't much
and even tho Noukky has gone on records and said does keep track of the pro scene
pine star
C9 London recruiting Korean players
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6u22ry/c9_london_recruiting_korean_players/
toxic yacht
lul
pine star
Alicus working on that 36 man roster
balmy wolf
Claris and Munchkin clearly didnt makr the cut lol
wary falcon
did LK players know that? From tier-2 team to OWL participant to tier-2 team again
balmy wolf
Probably
blazing parrot
solid spear
._.
toxic yacht
How to be oreo: ._.
solid spear
:3
solid spear
.-.
blazing parrot
pine star
( . _ .)
solid spear
Hifumi
wintry matrix
(you damn weebs)
isn't weird how every apex challengers team is stomped by the apex teams?
like, ocasionally you get something like Mighty AOD putting up a fight, there seems to be a huge disparity
bitter remnant
most APEX games this season seem involve one team stomping another
3-0s everywhere
bitter remnant
There are the good tier teams the and not as good tier teams, and so far there hasn't been much cross over
I imagine runaway vs lunatic hai should be good
balmy wolf
Also 1 group every season has a guaranteed result
bitter remnant
Wonder if I could make safe korean betting money 
wary falcon
Apex S2 and S3 were goldmines for betting
Also for this season all games had awful odds
So to get decent money (>1K) you needed to use express bets/accumulators
balmy wolf
S3 onwards is probably going to be easy for predictions
S1 an S2 were great
not many stomps
After that though
rapid oxide
Slowly losing faith in Blizzard
clever portal
isn't weird how every apex challengers team is stomped by the apex teams?
This happens everywhere though
There's a reason those teams weren't in Apex
wintry matrix
my line of thought was that considering how healthy the scene in korea, you'd expect that tier 2 teams are inferior, but at least can put up some fight against tier 1
while, mostly the disparity is kinda similar in the west
like, the difference between a Rogue/NV between a LGE/Kungarna
clever portal
I guess you need to keep in mind that Apex is 16 teams
The KR tiers are within Apex itself
solid spear
Korea is more top heavy than people like to think
clever portal
Imagine 16 NA teams
solid spear
But yes if there was similar style thing in the west youd see similar results
clever portal
And then a new team comes in
solid spear
Granted you see teams like tempo, rise and arc6 taking maps off Rogue so idk
bitter remnant
In 16 NA teams you might have 1 or 2 who dominate and the rest equally trash
Apex it's more that the top half dominates the bottom half
It would be interesting to see the worst high level western teams (e.g the worst teams once contenders season 1 has been running) against the worst apex teams
Because we know korea tends to be superior at the top level, but it would be neat to get a gague on how good the scrubby korean teams are
balmy wolf
Teams like X6 and Conbox would probably take teams like Kungarna and FaZe quite easily
bitter remnant
But what about flash lux
clever portal
Flash Lux v NRG
wary falcon
Not sure if X6/Conbox will win new Faze with ease
balmy wolf
Pink C9 jerseys with Blue logos would be lit
clever portal
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clever portal
C9 NA on a TMobile unlimited gaming break
toxic yacht
I don't know why everyone assumes that all korean teams are godlike
lul
the only godlike teams are KDP and LH
who are better than pretty much everyone
the thing where they have a pretty big advantage is that while NA or EU has say, a team like IMT
blazing parrot
cause koreans > everyone else
toxic yacht
KR is gonna have 3 IMTs
rapid oxide
you forgot LW and Runaway
toxic yacht
which is a pretty fucking big advantage
blazing parrot
we love our korean overlords fuck everyone else
rapid oxide
KDP is overrated
toxic yacht
wat
toxic yacht
they're on pretty much the same level like LH
played them closeley twice
won one of 3 games
like, really fucking closeley
finals could have gone either wa
blazing parrot
overrated for beating rogue btw
balmy wolf
closeley
rapid oxide
S1 and S2 didnt qualify for quaterfinals
blazing parrot
shii9
toxic yacht
the team was also completely different back then
I'm talking about current KDP
not the evermore thing
rapid oxide
ah kk
toxic yacht
KDP sucked back in S1
rapid oxide
a lot
blazing parrot
evermore 
rapid oxide
My qt rascal was in shit roster jail 
rapid oxide
double the cuteness, double the skill 
toxic yacht
but seriously, I'm so happy to see birdring on KDP
toxic yacht
it always felt like he was being held back when he was on Uncia
still need to see how he performs this season though
rapid oxide
weird that they didn't still get rid of uncia tbh
toxic yacht
he's kinda overrated imo
balmy wolf
How
They get invited to every apex and get free money basically
Its not like they invest in the team
rapid oxide
they play for free
solid spear
Sojum disrespecting the 2nd best player of all time smh
rapid oxide
ok
blazing parrot
balmy wolf
1st being Seagull obviously @solid spear
toxic yacht
lul
rapid oxide
๐ ๐ฆ
blazing parrot
agilities 
balmy wolf
rapid oxide
Grim 
toxic yacht
no jkap and uber 
solid spear
Also people gas T2 Korean teams so much
rapid oxide
๐คฆ
toxic yacht
T2 KR gets gassed by their own performance
there is a pretty fucking big gap between T2 KR and T1
as apex showed
rapid oxide
and there's a huge gap between T2 and EU/NA 
toxic yacht
I don't even understand the EU scene rn tbh
too little tournaments
all I know is that there was a pretty sizable gap between eUnited and the rest
clever wagon
Gotta have the bootcamp cake
When did Kruise play Lucio?
And when did he start Genji?
solid spear
EU is weaker now
wary falcon
KDP with Evermore was garbage
solid spear
So much talent has moved out of EU
wary falcon
this is why Rogue were favorites to win against them
Birdring was noname for majority people
balmy wolf
right now the scene is seems to be T1 KR > T1 NA/EU > T2 KR/OCE > T2 NA/EU
He started playing Genji when ONIGOD was kicked @clever wagon
solid spear
Giganti is suspect, misfits is a question mark, C9 is good but not amazing, 123 got weaker idk
balmy wolf
he is practically a Genji one trick atm
toxic yacht
he already played genji back then
he's also a genji main in ranked
I'm not sure about when exactly he started playing lucio
since I found him on support by the time I got into esports
toxic yacht
but he stopped playing lucio back in february or some shit
clever wagon
balmy wolf
Gigantti is a dark horse tbh. Shaz is a good support, and the team won Gamer Assembly. Not a big LAN by any means, but it is still showing something that they are prepared for it.
toxic yacht
anyway, it was really early this year
balmy wolf
It was February
same time they kick Kyb out
Nope
or at least after it.
He kept playing Lucio
Until ReU died
balmy wolf
And started playing Genji then because ONIGOD went toTO
solid spear
He didn't play Genji for them til they got rubi
balmy wolf
gotcha
can't remember all these timeline
He played Genji after ReU disbanded because they lost ONIGOD
They were scrimming as a team still just with the addition sharyk and rubi
and then got picked up by eU
You meant ASUS ROG right? @balmy wolf
http://asusrogtournament.com/ it was hosted in Gamer Assembly Summer
Yes but the tournament was called "ASUS ROG Tournament 2017 - Summer"
pine star
Stop being unfriendly Sojum smh
balmy wolf
does it matter? It is still the same place.
either way, Team Gigantti is my dark horse coming in.
really curious about the state of 
and 
tho
123 got a downgrade in Hafficool
solid spear
But you're unfriendly Sulli
toxic yacht
what's the format for contenders playoffs again?
pine star
Shut up Oreo, you're trash
toxic yacht
single elim, like always?
solid spear
._.
pine star
Isn't it the same of WC?
vestal mortar
๐
solid spear
Sulli pls
toxic yacht
I'm assuming that it is, but I'm too stupid to find it atm
pine star
It's probably is 4bo1 round robin
toxic yacht
since blizzard loves their round robin with single elim playoffs
pine star
Then single elim in playoffs
toxic yacht
because single elim is so much fun
wintry matrix
123 will be just like ex-cyclone
pine star
I may be wrong
solid spear
123 wasn't as good as ex cyclone