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And no tiebreakers were played
and Canada Russia Singapor Turkey
Canada v Russia had a tiebreaker because it was the last game and they had the same amount of points
oh it was Apex grandfinal with bo1 decider after draw
the s3 double draws? >->
Only KDP manages to get 3 points for 3 KOTH games in a match with 1 KOTH
Imo they need even stronger tiebreaker rules
Oh boy, tell me about it
For example change map as well
Panthera lost 4-3 and won 3 koth games
If it goes over 1
stronger tiebreaker rules
coin flip

They play the new tdm mode
The only way to decide who's better
Didn't Kaplan say 3v3 was good enough to be in competitive mode?
Or you could play penalties like soccer
Play 1v1's
Bo6
Or you could play penalties like soccer
Zarya is striker, D.va is goalkeeper
need to eat graviton with matrix to prevent goal?
nz has potiential, but they aren't saving it up for taiwan if they haven't got a 180 planned prepared the next two days

@wary falcon ez for DVa
dva is goalkeeper but can't use dm, only boost
Polish Sombra says: "poom, ipo swiatlah" or something similar 
sounds amazing
gonna try to get 4k on asian server with only sombra
oh USA vs Brasil in 2 hours
@clever wagon memes sure ๐
I doubt you can't fucking read the name of this channel
So does brazil imo
if Brazil doesn't tilt early they have a chance to even win
Blizzcon Finals without Shadowburn and Cantus BibleThump
Sylphea left OW?
top level mercy main
well symmetra might be her main also
huh she got actually 2 accounts
one 3039 one 1150

last game: 2 months ago
This is insane
140?
How long did it take for the no 1?
People level up insanely
I think in a cod they released more prestiges after a few weeks
Because people made it so fast
I had one of the highest Score-Per-Minute in non-hacking community
Around 1.3k SPM before XP events
280 hours from 1 to 145 level for me
Dudu?
yep
Countdown live
SamuraiYagamoth: this whole weekend is a joke TBH, all teams other than UK and USA are just there to feed them up
FailFish
Taiwan numba wan
Group G
G3 - ๐บ๐ธ United States vs. Brazil ๐ง๐ท
G4 - ๐น๐ผ Taiwan vs. New Zealand ๐ณ๐ฟ
Group H
H3 - ๐ฌ๐ง United Kingdom vs. Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ
H4 - ๐ฉ๐ช Germany vs. Belgium ๐ง๐ช
๐
lets goooo
any speculation how us vs brazil and uk vs israel wiill go?
UK 4 - 0
us will stomp brazil
Oh damn that Tracer statue is fine
3-1 UK
3-1 usa sadly.
4-0verwatch today?
with no end in sight
@blazing parrot if u watch a csgo match its awp scout m4 ak
DF is worse Ill enjoy these last days of no DF tournaments
Early sellout
S O E 
but watching 2 teams do the same comp vs each other gets so 
happened in triple tank and now dive

@balmy wolf how long have you been following OW eSports
@balmy wolf comp ow feels the need to bitch and moan about everything
dont worry about it
As an outsider, I think CSGO has minute differences in matches that make it fun for those who understand it
i personally think ow esports wont die anytime soon
if u watch a csgo match its awp scout m4 ak
Mag-7, UMP, MP-7, FAMAS, Galil
not even talking about pistols and SCAR/Nova/MP9


Also yeah, there are things like eco rounds and shit
25/26 heros were used though ;P
Again, my question is how long have you been following OW eSports
eSports
25 out of 26 heroes used by only south korea
You suck Seija


eSports
found Elon Musk friend
E_SportS

south korea is just that good
The fuck are you talking about even
720p 
C:
I don't give a shit about English that much to even understand the joke
dont say 25 out of 26 when its only one team 
Yesterday AI (neural network) won against best Dota 2 players
it counts
and Elon Musk (creator of this AI) said eSports
it doesnt 
25 heros were played, so yeah it does count
ok? the statement was 25 heros were picked, i didnt say every team used 25 heros
best unlimited network
So yeah, stream rip
actually
did the stream RIP?
stream died lmao
Thanks T-Mobile
great promotion
First you ruined the fucking showmatch and now this
CLARA

T-Mobile bringing you th-----
Rip stream
USA USA USA
please stand by guys!
Powered by T-Mobile 
ok? the statement was 25 heros were picked, i didnt say every team used 25 heros
It's still only 1 team that actually took it to 25
And that 1 team is literally the #1 world
Game hasn't started 
ze hundret perzent
100k and stream is not even started for Dota TI
Soe 

dota 2 has also been around longer
alot longer lol
so bigger view base 
i belive it gives one views even if you start the game
it still hurts
2?
how old is dota 2 esports
1
how is it 2

lol
oh USA spam
werent there some teams playing in beta?
i missed it so much
Sydney has a fucking theater, and we are at an airport hangar for the US stage 
it has alpha too
i remember that mydong game
๐คฆ
a lot of pro teams were in OW beta
USA USA USA
USA USA USA
2010-2017
like 6 years
(not ded yet)
it has beta lul
alright then
Goldenboy 
plus a bunch of non dive heros are getting buffs
exsdee
why people still watching black screen, it's better to watch Soe
Poland had better team intros

tara
Soe > TI
maybe idk
Hiya!
Hi all!
soe should workout a bit tbh
@vestal mortar did you ever get a picture with ryuje?
We weren't allowed photos but I got to say hi and get an autograph
hi? not a hiya?
such a shame

I got all of Team SK's autographs C:
smh jakie
150k still watching black screen
Lmao

Lol sinatraa so much energy
watching at 360p feelsgoodman
usa stomps again
sinatraa carrying
Ez
as usual
NZ and now Brazil are haulin ass with Sinatraa Zarya rolling
is the zarya buff in this
why i've the feeling jake will be the esca of OWC?


jeez
lol
Not a weird comparison tbh
What the fuck
Is this easy mode?
5.5mins at last point
i bet the tanks are yelling at the dps but the dps are saying they have 4 golds
yep, brazil lost the mind game, 4-0
LOL what Rawkus
it really sucks, because i know BGH is better than this

they just died
well not anymore

Apart from last OMMs BGH hasn't even had the chance to dwell in NA scene that much right?
nice job cursing them jakie
trying my best to jinx USA 4-0
they were in Rumble and contenders i think
Sinatraa tracer here we gooo
USA USA USA
๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ
@wintry matrix dropped out of Contenders S1 though right
wowe
another teamwipe without deaths
Well dang
yep, didn't got far
I didn't expect USA to be that strong
Pretty much like
i think they lost to envision or tempo storm
๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ
BGH looks like kind of in shock after Flash Wolves
Sinatraa is too good
Taiwan i still pretty much favorite to win over USA
charged up the whole round
Flash Wolves was Flash Wolves, and now they're thrown into Sinatraa's grill
Just look at how they hauled ass from point A
BGH was already an underdog, and their lack of international lan is hurting
attack sombra 
i wouldn't bet on USA yet
international LAN
coL days
They haven't even been dwelling in NA scene
i meant that
the only times the fought tier 1-2 internationak teams was in ping
smh
Feel like Jake brought in that old LGE style of biting the point whenever they can
Man
Brazil doesn't even have anything in them anymore
WOOOOOOOOW
Hiya hiya hiya
USA!!!!!
Ana PoV 
Wew
gotta love the idiot push 
wow the play by liko
Oh snap Brazil is back lol
keep brazil a bit
2mins and they're being spawncamped

catch me at the spawn door how bout dat
Good shimmy
they're just saving ults
4 vs 2
it WAS 4 with 2 at 70ish but
liko carring
^
final fight no blade
bastion 
LOL
gdfghsdfgdgf
LOOOOL
xD

YES DAD
what the fuck???
LUL
Surprise Bastion lol
Jake with the cheeky Bastion



Dude just loves whipping that Bastion dick so much
bastion lul

USA!!!
where is reinforce btw
were americans, we are awallys bias.
apparently cant english too
Except twoards S. Korea because they are too awesome too watch
i can't wait for FW to roll them
yo
This EDM-ish BGM

KOTH is the last chance of BGH
if they don't at least put a good fight, is 100% rip for them
finally no overwatch music
100% as in, chances of playing well
watch jake miss every shot on the enemy pharah
Jake Pharah 
I still remeber jake got owned by s4 on pharah
Lmao
adam boop
Dafran better
lul, adam won them the point
adam
IS THIS REAL LIFE?
no
Jake is my hero.
Hi everyone! โค
rawkus is my hero
BGH doesn't fucking follow up
they got two picks, mercy only rezzed one, then took forever to kill anyone
then sinatraa killed three
WHAT
GOTTEm
matt 
gOtTeM
That justice rained from above.
5 people carrying Jake's Pharah 
NA LUL
no, I will never stop being smug
FW will beat USA
failing hard
Rawkus Widow
where's my Slasher dream BibleThump
Guys guys

wat?
Poland had more fight in them than Brazil rn
i feel like at this point they should just give up on dva and play their confort picks
rawkus hyperlul
does rawkus even play widow?
Team USA is such a troll lol

that mine lol
BGH ult management so bad
rawkus got a headshot
i mean, when BGH is winning it sure looks like rogue
when it doesn't work, then they panic
Man
brazil choking on sinatraa's dick
Is this USA vs solo ladder?
LOL
i'm so fucking tilted rn
Like damn
i'm not even bothering to watch the rest
Sorry Brazil but damn ain't your mental game weak
Team USA won't even have a chance vs SK if they can't beat an equivalent of a mid tier APEX team in 
Even Poland had more fight in them against SK
brasil scene is alright
isolated and small
@supple nymph they are basically the Vietnam of SA. Big in their own scene, but shit in international water.
i mean, as much as a scene without good infrasctructure and away from tier 1-2 teams can be
worth a repost
@toxic yacht https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6t9nwo/jake_putting_on_some_amazing_show/
jake and surefour are pro bastions 
Jake just loves whipping out that Bastion dick of his when he has the chance
pls avenge me FW ๐

pesto_enthusiast: https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6t9dqy/overwatch_world_cup_2017_los_angeles_group_stage/dliy7c1/
To the tune of America, Fuck Yeah by Trey Parker America America America, Fuck Yeah! Comin' again to win the motherfuckin' World Cup ...
Brazil needs to just run triple DPS
they are not really going anything going to the meta atm
that robo boogie lol
yep
they are playing on new patch with Zarya buff?
nope

i heard polish genji had troubles with escape from graviton
I keep hearing different things about which patch it is
DF is banned either way though
Lul
rawkus 
Skill rating
3787 
Rawkus with the decayed SR 
decay
yeah, lol
Rawkus is masters? 
decay
Rawkus gonna be the new ajax
stop
so it must be the old one
Rawkus played a lot with Shadowburn
hope Rawkus will play Mercy
Whenever I see the casters I die laughing. One is short and the other one is tall. They can easily be cartoon characters
Rawkus played Mercy on Ilios
adam is better mercy imo
also, there is this twitch pasta about seagull being in jail for fucking an underage girl or something
lul
ya
This seagull meme is brilliant
hes going to gamescom
I wanna see coolmatt on 76 
Not sure who started it
uh oh
being in jail
good ol' f0rest in jail?
@toxic yacht what's the pasta like
nvm
uhh, I don't know the exact pasta
still expecting to see Cwoosh face as Sojum's avatar 
The Space-making Dragonblade 
Here we go again
1hp
murizz pls
LMAO
nice bomb
2cp 
2cp FeelsAmazingMan
Its their lvl
note that russia almost capped both points
vs south korea
on volskaya
although sk is undeniably significantly better
well, so the US will probably cap with 5 minutes left then
SBB
saebyeolbe is average


yupp
Saebyeolbe average LUL
not a godlike tracer, just good average tracer, nothing outstanding
rip liko
wowe
POPPING OFF
jake ๐
๐
BlessRNG
fact couldnt plress q
dying with rez
feelsbad
fctfiction could have ulted
could have won
fct expected rawkus to survive
no?
Should probably just Reaper
SINATRAA
wowe

Beautiful tracking
BEAUTIFUL TRACKING
i'm legit sad 
why
rip
i'm brazilian
toxic
toxicc
don worry, FW will avenge us
coolmatt 
lol
LOL
LFMAO
LULULUOL
somone clip that
LMAO
AGAIN LMFAO
Murizzz trying to catch up to MattH
former? ๐ค
BOOSTIO
BOOSTIO
BOOSTIOO
LOL
BOOSTIO!
that tracer kill
OH they actually capped
fack

ooh damn\
Brazil showing sign of life
LOL
WTF
LOL
throwing
hahaha
The blade threw the whole game for them
that was nice
Jake ๐ค
lost them the fight
LOOOOOL
lmfao
yea Liko should have gone for supports
LUL
dont chase the guy with the sprint ability
reminds me of when arhan got a nanoblade
and harryhook just ran
lul
wasted 2 ults
well I didnt even thing they'd cap first
This match isnt that bad
they only capped first because of the boostio
and even then they almost failed
overlay bad
then sinatraa died to the resuit
They are sending a genji to contest the phara
Nrg?
LOL
sinatraa already has blade
"EMP" did you mean "rip Zen"?
Coolmatt is amazing
LMFAO

holy shit
feelsbad

the AF Blue comp
bonus point for whoever remember when AF Blue used it
balanced
Bait blade?
he bladed after they transed
either he didn't realize or he wanted to cut through it
nice one USA
lol rip
even nicer one brazil
chooooooke
shorter time

mei
lul
time to watch Cantus put FW in their place 
The next match is gonna be a massacre
where are taimou's emotes when you need them?

EZ
gg was close
time to pull a Jackie and bet the house onto 
they have 1.050 though
LMAO
bet 1K to get $50
lol
I only went to take a piss
buy a burger from Dafran
idk why people had a problem with Sinatraa on the team....clearly the best US dps not that means much
And they finished it
jake is as consistent as my boner when I'm trying to fap while people found sinatraa unproven/overrated
so many signs
if you think of it like that, it's not too surprising why people weren't expecting too much
NA production
Sojum thats a lot of info 
flame
This is nice
got a pencil toรณl
Is Silkthread still active? Or went full science
Silkthread still streams from time to time at least
Silk is dead
well
to be fair
theres a lot of options better than Waffle
regardless of Silk
so Im not gonna say that was a ad decision
MOON SUBS GET OUT

Moon2smug from Dota stream was better than this signs
Buff Ana 
like, she still held back in china
but she's been giving less and less shits, lul
I think the best part about her roasting is how she phrases it
combined with her voice and just the way she talks
lul
it's like "Not to be rude or anything, but you kinda sucked monkey dick"
U crashed the stream earlier
should I even watch this match?
Not dropped yet 
I mean if you wanna see FW lose
Is this from a map? I'm not sure
5 people carrying the boosted Mercy
you mean best mercy is trying to get x5 rez on this dumbs?
@clever wagon Widow's short
maybe someone should tell cantus he dont gain SR from WC
Hoh
Time to watch my boy Baconjack farm Cantus 
gosh first match of TI today is so boring
Baconjaaack
@wary falcon who vs who?
Liquid - LFY
Come dumpster for heals 
I wish Contenders would get views like this at least :/
Hope more people watch OW soon
FeelsDabMan
LFY
I want Liquid to win 
same
doesent season 1 of contender start next week?
Yep
man they done a shit job of promoting season 1
Team USA right now would legit be a contender in APEX. The synergy is top notch. Proud of the boys
still blizzard's fault for pushing obviously dumb updates

that's not surprising waht emongg said
but if pros don't try it out and give feedback, they have no right to complain
wtf that shield ๐
Pls give me what Kyky's smoking
Well...
Orisa shenanigans WutFace
what kind of feedback? remember people wanted to decrease Hog's damage? Blizzard delivered
thinking out of the box

Pros have to arrange scrims between live and PTR then
i also would not be surprised if pros gave feedback like "BUFF MCREE GUN TO GIVE 200 DMG" and bc they didn't do it, they stopped the feedback
Also, Valve don't listen pro's feedback mostly
in theory yes
And now APEX is also running for the Koreans?
valve is an outlier
too bad that OW pros give no feedback
we've heard time and time again
how they don't try changes
because pro players are biased heavily
and then complain
the thing about game feedback is that there's not a single most important feedback
the developers take all the feedback they can
the bastion patch was obviously dumb, but pros only gave feedback when it was far too late
i think CS:GO players remember when M4A1-S has laser accuracy, 666 RPM and only $2900
useful feedback i mean, no matter where it comes from
and pro said this gun is shit
and they still barely gave any
A lot of teams are simply not going to scrim a lot on PTR with tournaments being played on a different patch
Contenders + World Cup scrims, APEX scrims for Koreans, and soon OPC or the Asia-Pacific
yeah and then 90% players used M4A1-S instead of M4A4
Valve was forced to nerf A1-S multiple times
to get her on M4A4 level
And I know some pros do give feedback
You tell me how they can arrange scrims for the championships they're participating in + PTR
I know IceFrog (Dota2 leading dev) is consulting with pro players via skype, but not that much
You don't necessarily need to listen to pros
but Valve never change their game due to bullshit statistics
no matter quick plays or grandmaster tier
^
I think everyone's read what they want for DVa
Which is basically close to deletion
you don't have to scrim on PTR in 6 hour blocks
you can also do irregular 1-2 hour things to kind of test the impact of changes
changes are on PTR for weeks
instead of streaming or whatever
they could just try it out
they have the time, they just aren't willing to take it
then complain
especially now that a lot of them are doing nothing
since a lot aren't in contenders
I mean, isn't these balancing things more on Geoff
geoff is pretty fucking good at fps games iirc
I mean some players do post things but like Emongg himself said if most players tell you blah is broken but a few higher level players tell you he sucks and teans as whole aren't scrimming a lot of the time you say eff it and change nothing
being good at game and understand how balance works
Isn't there a whole team? ๐ค
okey dokey
he has been balancing games for ages, it's literally his job + he's pretty good at the game, then there's the fact that there is an entire team, but yeah, I see where you're coming from about the balance
a lot of decisions are kinda baffling
???????????
new zealand is so good
Cantus????????
Cantus is godsent mercy
Cantus smh
cantus LUL
I've heard Geoff has a shaky history in other games but I actually no nothing about that
LulZealand
USA USA USA
The bigger elephant in the room is still that Blizzard actually had it in them to change a hero based on spams of complaints in the forum
Doubt a decent amount of them came with actual reasoning that are worth reading
but a lot of high level players didn't like how useless he is
I wish that they'd rework him before making him useful
BOOSTIO
yes Junkrat was useless but there is much bigger problem
DF rework first ๐
good Junkrat won't fix shitty MM
They're losing because no Cantus Mercy
also OW needs not 1 meta but 3+
honestly, imo ideally there would only be soft counters with the best counter purely being your mechanical skill
but yeah, I don't think that OW is ever going that way
soft counters with the best counter purely being your mechanical skill
like mccree vs genji/tracer?
yee, something like that
Aww yeah Nepal
I mean even though none of the changes probably break the game or anything I didn't like the direction of the last ptr patch as a whole
Liquid is losing again 
I enjoy fighting genji on cree, I enjoy fighting cree on genji
same with tracer
etc
i'm getting trashed by genji/tracer as mccree
I don't like how dva basically makes heroes useless by holding rmb
well, cree isn't really doing that job anymore
since genjis and tracers
kinda got
my mccree has 30% winrate on 4300
much better

if you wouldn't have 3 heroes attacking you at once you could probably take out 1 tracer
or 1 genji
Defence matrix and Rez are unhealthy abilities
without her certain shit would run wild, and without DM the hero is actually terrible
I like esports
they are game breaking in current state
rez is fucking dumb, but you know
simply un-fun
theoretically























