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its LIT
very nice
Fixed a bug that caused the announcer to say “Traveling to Dorado” when joining Castillo
just a mobility creep
most heros in dive have mobility cds shorterthan
OHHH LET'S TAKE THIS PERFECTLY BALANCED AND NICHE HERO
AND BUFF HER
LET'S ALSO TAKE AWAY WEAKNESSES FROM A SNIPER
seems theyd rather power creep a bit than touch any dive heros 
Widow is not good
Blizz changing balanced heros unheard of
Give her the AWP
but giving her more escapes + literally allowing her to see flankers through walls?
And collat
So widow's hook cd = roadhog hook cd
what the fuck?
SeemsGOOD
these changes are flames
like, it was already impossible to flank her because destroying the mine would give away your location
We Quake now bois
Roadhog will be meta again 
i hope they will decrease hog damage and increase clip size
because he is so frustrasting to play
or 25 clipsize and ~soldier damage level
Patch notes where?
Sinatraa nrg? 🤔
literally on the website
scroll up
sulli pls
he got it
yeah, the widow buffs seems retarded
what's up with all these balancing decisions that mostly just boiled down to solely make a hero's weakness less of a weakness
because it feels bad to play
lol
people cry if they have glaring weaknesses, so make sure that nothing has any big weaknesses
I SAID NVM I FOUND THEM YOU FUCKS
calm down
I'm done with this app lol
boo fucking hoo, you are a long range oneshot hero
you get killed at close range
that's how it fucking works
in literally every fps
and there is a reason for that
Hanzo seems like weak hero, will Blizzard buff his weakest ability (scatter)?

blizzard is going to make scatter home targerts
sonice arrow cooldown halfed
so that it's always up
because getting flanked feels bad
Widow = shit Hanzo
Widow is only good on attack so buff her to increase her pickrate on defence
Atleast with Hanzo you can one tap someone at close range
oh, and genji's deflect is now a sphere
getting one shot feels as Tracer feels bad 
and covers his entire body
hope they will buff offensive Torbjorn
more Hog nerfs pls
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6sufvq/jeff_kaplan_posted_some_vry_basic_stats_about_the/ Widowmaker top 10 in QP, but near bottom in competitive 
and the deflected shots work like 76 tac visor
all of the patches are addressing the lower tier heroes
because having to look at the things you're deflecting feels like shit
NO WEAKNESSES BOIS
Hello, it's Jeff Kaplan here, today was a very productive day at the office. We've been monitoring the quickplay statistics for console and it is evident that Sombra is not getting enough play time. Consequently, we have decided to increase her ultimate charge rate by 50%. We hope this doesn't have any negative impact on the pro scene, but as you all know quickplay takes priority here at Blizzard
Sombra has bad winrate
This patch is so xD
Hopefully Blizzard will buff her charge rate
But if it gets us more Timo Widow I ain't complaining
I'm sorry but apart from junk, these changes make no sense
I even disagree with the orisa change, how about you wait for the dive meta to and before you fucking buff her?
orisa kind of shreds slow comps if you play her right, like, wat?
Orisa is a horrible main tank anyway
she is good for sustaining a front line but no way to actually enforce or move the frontline in a fluid manner
the fact that she's static kinda only makes her useful as an off-tank for defense or as some spam thing
maybe the shield thing but tbh I agree with the gun change
like, I could always follow the other changes
the projectiles are too slow
Orisa is just addon for torb turret
like, I always tried to stay optimistic about blizz's changes
but this is beyond dumb
especially the widowmaker changes
you see not enough of the elite players (1500+) were playing her
the elite couldn't do well with her
of course
only high elo players (2500+) would know
Im still salty from Hog so fuck everything at this point
Sojum tilted
this is esports balance guise
also, they gave him to conc mines without changing the damage

"we created this league" "but we need spectator mode improvement" "deathmatch? ok get it"
depending on the time between both mines
can't he just oneshot people in pretty bullshit ways now?
"hog is an ult battery" "not ult battery can move!"
"oneshot"
you know what I mean
well, it depends on how the mines work
dunno
I'll just see
junk was potato, he needed buffs
lol
no scaling of his grenade is just weird
i can't recount how many time i die to a random junkrat grenade
wait, so 2 120dmg mines?
and the killcam told me that THE JUNKRAT DIDN'T FUCKING AIM
which seems fucking retarded
so what's stop casuals from getting cheese kill with 2 conc mine back to back now?
faith?
ofc you do
scoreboard look sexy tho
Orisas's changes seems weird, Widow was interesting tho
me
unlimited heroes is bad idea for me
i prefer only mccree with 400hp without flashbang and increased movement speed
they'll prob do like 3x3, or random mirror heroes
TviQ and Sojum 1v1 finally
Sulli chill
doesn't look very fun the mode for the few mins i watched
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
DF the best character in Death match
You can't self heal
Saw tviq in dm w soldier and self heal and ultimate were disabled
Even in other modes 
Ho ho
Does Tracer self heal?
tviq disabled a bunch of abilities
hek
no ultimates, no flashbang, no selfheal (but iceblock works)
if you're a good mccree dm is easy
if you're a doomfist that has brain function its super easy
ingame with superplouk @toxic yacht

Tviq?
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Rumour: Cloud9 want to sign a new Overwatch roster and are in talks with some EU teams - who could they go for? https://t.co/G3trF9X5Rl
Expected
C9 doesn't wanna finish last surprise!!!
Im not sure if trading the current c9 roster for LK is that good of a deal
they could just buy 
as an org will have no fucking way of getting into 
so buying a top flight roster with solid LAN experience is probably a better bet
It definitely is @wintry matrix
Buying any high t2 or t1 EU team is leagues better than staying with what they have
although
that does means that Surefour and the gang is sort of FA tho
maybe
I mean lets use LK as an example since you mentioned them
you could in theory just put S4 on LK
if you wanted to
according to scribe they already picked up one or two players already
but he described the pickup as "weird"
it was merely an example
you could do that with any EU team
dont have to pick up all 6 neccessarily
picking out players from teams is terrible for both parties
but I suspect no current c9 players are ending up on the OWL roster
If C9 doesnt just get a whole new roster they will go nowhere
my point was you dont have to get a full 6 necessarily but rather a core of a good EU team
there arent really many of them though so limits potential options
Id personally just buyout Eunited and maybe get a 7th player if I thought they could really help them
I would also enjoy watching C9 pick players from the FA pool and just fail
right now though there's only a few teams that is worth picking up wholesale.
are the top 4
so either that or buy out eU is what I want to happen
so it is probably better to assemble their own shits again

I wonder about B1shop though
is he still working with
for the future roster?
or else?
Who is LK's head coach again?
Spazzo

I have honestly no idea who is better between Spazzo and B1shop
But if I had to guess, I'd go with Spazzo
nothing b1shop has done would justify cutting their current coach
what are his results with C9 that would make me think about making a move like that
xqcs just wearing a c9 shirt for meme right
08/11/2017 | 10:00 AM PDT, Looking forward to my country's play
Oh you think US? Hell nah
= Stark? c'mon
Did seagull really get arrested?
no lol
wew old memes
@burnt moss how do i say your name
wrong place to ask for scrims tho
is us going to beat nz?
Hahahahaha
ResidentSleeper
Overview?
Yes
starting in a few
Mangachu is a famous boye 
@balmy wolf guest mangachu 
the pro scene does not have anyone else to guest or something
oh man S4 and xqc against hacker was so fun that i wished there were more hackers
Team USA coming in hot tomorrow. Shoutout to all the people doubting the squad; always the best motivation.
gon be gud
You're welcome Kyky 
Lul Oreo
Roolf said they got rolled by them early on but they went like 2-3 against them later
so they might be closish to Canada now
whats up Gank?
u succ
oh rip

After this PTR the fear of pros to face @fl0w3r_nanohana intensifies..😱🇰🇷 #FearJunkrat https://t.co/IbPspGV5Wn
shieet
JUNKRAT META LES GO BOIS
Mangachu confirming Gods scrimming with Kungarna 🤔
Aw hell yeah dude
rip mickle
wat
Mykl is still there
not surprising
god's pool overlap with his doesnt?
Like this if you remember the Off tank Gods
Double like this if you remember McCree Gods
main tank*

in the WC 2016 and Kingdom/Pre-RNG he also did, zarya and Road mainly i think
hes played off tank, main tank, Genji, hitscan at various points
Tracer with 800/10 is moist
Apex today 
Massive FPS drops and crosshair + outline opacity not looking like 100% in PTR
So weird
yeah adding the outline messed up some crosshair stuff
you need to increase the thickness and length by 1
and reduce the gap by 1
to get what you have on live
The Los Angeles Qualifiers are today, right?
Which matches at apex?
ty
I think size wise it's perfectly the same as my live settings, it's really just the opacity
Idk
Fps drops sucks so I've had enough trying deathmatch
FPS drops and Tracer 800/10 sucking in PTR for some reason
Even though it's perfectly the same sens as what I have in live
No i mean like
the crosshair changed for everyone
because they added the black outline
I know
But I didn't really notice mine, probably since it's still where I'm comfortable at size wise
And there's really no point going back and forth between PTR and live just to check
LA group stage soon rite?
Phil-Bill vs possible aimbot in ranked live
Possible btw
But Phil suspects it
One of em is Aurora #8, lv 100+ smth... smurf?
Aurora #8 and Lucio #25
"Lucio" confirmed for dodgy movement
Both confirmed
KDP v KDU might actually be close
They probably play each other alot
Looks fun lul
Rascal doomfist in 1:30 
Yum
Unreformed? 


has LH said anything about why leetajun is back?
No, but there is speculation
Mostly that at some point Esca will have to leave
So the team needs a part of the core to shotcall/lead
Tobi/RJH/Miro can't do this
So they need an old member
ohh just wondering how come they cant shotcall? i dont know much about how pros play but still intresting
Not shotcall by itself
But the team is known to be very emotional
So they would crumble in high pressure situations
For example a final
ohh true and thanks
big ask but i mean unknown nz players vs a sloppy put together team could go any way
Gods is overrated
Oreo went back to unreformed
good
Now we can bully him again without feeling guilty
Can't watch for most of tonight 
where is Luffy?
He's out
and who is bdosin
Part of the roster change
If LTJ will play, probably when EscA takes military service
he was on wNv
He definitely fits that position better than Gido or WhoRU imo
OGN stream is up
Countdown
Time to use Livestreamer + VLC for uncapped bitrate 
H Y P E
Lul
Having chat instead of discord on the right 
Discord a shit, no compact mode that can fit there
Life's great when you only have access to your 11" laptop :)
Good thing this chat has none
Moon subs 
lets go
ABSOLUTE ACE
love lunar colony
hype for doomfist
Whoooo! Let's go!
i will take it
Doomfist 
I dunno
I mean if it's still 1 match/day, no
Wait
Lol
How did I remember APEX to have 1 match per day
Uhhh this means
lol, idk.
12 matches for 2 weeks
Yeah, that's all of group stage round robin
Good decision tbh
Yeah.
time for OGN
Luna
STAND UP SwiftRage
i wonder if they got tired of the "i get it" meme. the finals did not get it 😄
It's the first day.
That's rare... Group stages? You'd think Kongdoo esp Panthera would have a lot
WHERE ARE THEIR CUTE OUTFITS WHAT
No new sassy uniform for the KD boyes 
Kongdoo uniforms 😭
@vestal mortar ... what happened. I am distraught.
8 v 8 bois
RIP KD seifuku (sailor outfit)
I am heartbroken
Bubbly..
Right
Why would they switch up KDP this much I wonder after that majestic 4-3 finals
Rascal not dyed today
T^T
Oh god
The 30fps is even more jarring with this setup
If there's something that can make me hate APEX...
30 fps 
It's cinematic 
Fucking look at that black outline

daaaaaaaaaaaaaannn decay
Disgusting default crosshair on the S76 WutFace
These uniforms .. I don't like it.
Who is their fan club president, who do I complain to?
Looks like Rascal still needs more time on DF

panthera still tilted from season 3 finals
Luna... too soon.
KDP really shaky

both running doomfist 
KDP throwing to try things out?
KotH?
I don't want to believe
Well yeah, Rascal did look shaky esp in KotH
Still getting used to DF
Prettyh obvious I'd say
ah, he's been playing DF the entire time?
feelsbad literally a scrim for KDP
Genji a 2nd option for him
Not even Sombra for the last KDU offense on Hollywood
Though that was only 50s
full hold o_O
I'm assuming that he plays genji when he wants to tryhard?
Last resort
Ye
I mean though
His DF is starting to solidify
Starting to do shit like hitting with the very edge of the rocket punch hitbox
they are letting him play with him in these first rounds 😛
If you saw his kill on Decay's DF
Horizon & DF. Thank you Apex ❤
Like
Landing a hit on Decay who's not airborne while falling down with the very edge of the rocket punch hitbox
See
Rogue 
Weird ults.
btw, tviq's predictions for the qualifiers are Taiwan first seed, USA second seed, USA and Taiwan make it to blizzcon
with brazil and uk having the potential for an upset
am curious about what other pros think
Oooh, I kind of agree with that.
Interesting 😮
GC Busan are mega cuties.
How close was the KongDoo showdown
Not at all
It felt more like a scrim?
ic
Like they were trying stuff out, giving new players exposure. But it was fun to watch! Doomfist on Horizon ^ ^
on a scale of 1 to 10, how good was doomfist today?
Meteor strike
@forest raven KotH was literally Rascal's Doomfist warm up 
topkek
But srsly
It legit felt like that
If u watch just some of Rascal's performance between KotH and the later maps
By Horizon he already started exploiting Doomfist's massive rocket punch hitbox

the end was doomfist feed, not kill feed
Fisting Decay standing on the ground while he (Rascal) was falling right by the bottom edge of the rocket punch hitbox
He only pulled Sombra and Genji for like what, 1-2 rounds each
Fisting Decay
👌🏻
next world cup match in 4 hours
Legit went thonk for a moment seeing this
that's the chinese flag
lol
Is comp fixed yet?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
🤔
adam on cree and rawkus on pharah with fct on hog
lul
why the meme comp?
also, coolmat tracer
Matt Tracer is a thing at least
:/

that was against a aimbot who was trashtalking (and lost eventually)
Oooh
Nice, I support that kind of trash talk
he is super toxic, yes
but this specific instance was vs the aimbotter, so I support this toxicity 🙏
the dude even said Canada was rekt by KR and didn't made it to blisscon lul
xQc stream is always good
Yesterday I turned it on and he was explaining why he couldn't jump through the Eichenwald Last point door
And he was so emotional
I GOT BOOPED
toxicity is crucial and most important part of ow matchmaking
I used to really dislike him because of his toxicity, but it's kind of impossible now for me
like, his highs are som goddamn high that they compensate for the not so good shit
Yes
he's just really fucking emotional about OW and consistently toes the line between being a toxic fuck and just being really fun
Never reform 
then he steps over that line every time and you have one of those "xQc rage" videos on youtube
They're funny
but yes, the guy really grows on to you
Would be funnier if he was T1 though
he's also a good meme
He needs to make OWL
also, jehong streaming League
if xQc doesn't make it one of the biggest and best sources of memes will vanish
and I'll be very sad
btw guys
first match
is the #1 player in NA vs team USA
he made it there using the power of friendship
gd, I didn't know qxc was such a toxic bunny.
Cantus 
world cup watchers, has anyone got word of the first group matches?
USA vs Cantus
lol
TW vs Brazil
today's matches
I will watch on the train wifi 👌
👍 hf
noice noice
whenever I was on the dart the wifi never worked
smh wifi is racist
well, it worked once
Rip Sojum, it always works for me.
sunday is gonna have some nail biteing matches? yes?
one out of ten times
Ya
well, more than ten
brb gonna squeeze an hour's snooze in
Smh Sojum, it's probably because you had your feet on the seats
most interesting group
Also you know I'm going on the DART. Creepy.... 👀
Hope China and Belgium will advance
I actually have no idea about all of the train systems there, lul
Cantus is fine too
China?
I just used the dart because it took me from the inner part of the city to bayside
he means taiwan
"chinese taipei"
Taiwan is 100% advancing imo
probably first in groups
As a us citizen, i want USA to advance.
then USA and UK could potentially make it too
group G looks like it's gonna be really competitive
Taiwan numba wan and true china btw
imo UK is gonna be the first seed in group H
But, i think usa will take second in group g
and they'll dodge taiwan, which means that they'll likely go up against USA or Brazil
I also think that USA will get second
UK's roster looks very strong, and as opposed to must people here, I actually have faith in team USA
Dunno
USA looks weak
They simply don't have answer for Cantus
so Cantus first, Taiwan second
the choices definitely seem weird, especially jake and sinatraa
there are more proven dps out there, but something must have worked well in the tryouts to take those too
so I'll trust them
Lets assume, usa does well enough to make it to blizzcon. do they want to come first in their group or second to have a better seed at blizzcon?
they want to come first in their group or second to have a better seed at blizzcon?
there is no difference for group G
They have to come 2nd
while teams from group G should dodge Taiwan
Can't wait USA to get rekt
If they come 1st and win
🙏 for USA
And Slasher kill himself
They play SK
PLS
wouldent one path potentially put them aginst SK, at blizzcon?
But they shouldn't lose they didn't stream scrims 
hahah
Guys is blizzcon going to be over the weekend?
Yeah
yuhp
But weekend or nah
uhh, lemme check
Probably
blizzcon is uallasy sat and sunday iIrc
I might just say fuck uni for a day
Yee
Friday and saturday
Perfect
No the brackets are out
1st seed USA group plays SK
anybody got a link to the brackets?
Stay in school Baaam
@blazing parrot i made it but NotLikeThis 
Dont worry its ez pz
Do your homework before you watch
lmao
"Dont worry its ez pz" famous last words
anyways, im expecting all around better matches this week comprated to last.
School starts at around 28-25th of August
So I still have time to see if I can go or nah
Don't they measure attendance in NA
Same norn
Tara, #e-d mom 
Tara 
👀
Moooooooooooooom, I'm hungry.
I finished my homework 👀
Food pls.
Jaysus I didn't sign up for this
T ^ T
what is the first match today
@sinatraaOW Gl dude. Can't wait to see the dab montage you told me you're going to create.
emongg 

lmao
👌

Soe
Seltzer 
Buff Ana lol
people have to create shitty memes
yep, at least according to the timer on stream
"untested" lul
remember when during the leak it said that Adam and Rawkus are gay lovers? 👀
well, it isn't hard to go gay for rawkus
Cantus lmao
he really looks like a pasty 16 old
soe
lool cantus
I'm late because I was taking a shit and was on mobile
BUT USA THINKS THAT THEY CAN BEAT SK
you miss soe
LUL
USA is my city
They are allowed to throw?
ZP and hex 
I came late and didnt get what they were exactly talking about
Cantus 
LOL HOLLYWOOD IN CALI
calling it
I GET IT
lololol
15K viewers 
unclegay obviously cheering for rawkus
Sinatraa zarya naisu
Triple tank 
🇺🇸
lololol
💯
Man, that was fast.
Sinatraa Zarya 
no idea brah. love it tho
Rawkus learns from Roolf it seems
LUL
welp
woaaaaaaw
jake just esca'd
Z9
at least my worry that NA would be trash is dispelled
so who's running production?
They need something to contest the tracer
i think Brazil will be a fairer show, because FW is pretty much the favorite
can't finish that Zen smh
yeah, I'm not gonna lie, punching bags as-is
we can get a point or two at the very least
Sinatras ult was late
time for some 2CP LUL
Cantus getting rammed over the wall

nope
🇳🇿 🔫
cantus need the mercy boost :>
buff ana lul.
USA 
This crowd tho
🇺🇸
the crowd is fine I guess whatever..
crowd size greater than 40 people ✅
every point nz gets, I'll flair up my username or something
crowd is in the good route for being as good as aussie
so, who actually are NA's players? Sinatraa is the only one I reocgnize
Have we seen jake on tracer before, I haven't seen her much from him. Makes sense, allows Sinatraa to play Zarya.
should have mained mei birdy
I think I recognize the other names from watching scrims or something
Yeah he's played it
lol Jake actually escaped
jake and train kept swapping the tracer role
especially whn we were transitioning into dive
and LGE didn't know what they wanted to run
You're right, I just don't remember it that well
Signed is pretty good
NA might actually hold this
well
they actually did it
sinatraa at 60 to grav again
Focusing sinatra with blade 
LUL
what was tthat nano
he's literally hovering on point solo
these 2 fights have been so scrappy
holy shit if the US full holds that would be nuts
sinatra is carrying hard
The sneaky grav
the team is heavy on Sinatraa's back
LOL
It's not 4 am Cantus is gon a lose
wowza
well
No one noticed the grav?
fucking rip
wowowow
that was something
Was it eaten?
nope
U S A U S A U S A
LOL bald eagle guy
MURICA FUCK YEAHHHH
Coolmatt carried so hard. Sinatraa died first a couple of times but Fctfiction and Coolmatt helped so much.
spectator crew a little light this match
Jake feed too
It seemed like NZ is just too weak honestly
Cantus losing while in a 6 stack 
lol
we did just sneak in really
cantus can't get carried anymore
they had an intelligent plan. Focus fire and mechanical skils are lacking.
they always focus on Sinatraa
but some plays were throwing
Yeah, that genji blade on bubbled Sinatraa was a wasted push
BO5? wut?
wat
wtf with 4 games series
probably NA production
NA production? Hello?

maybe they misspoke?
No Dafran, Soon or Taimou for team USA? 
true NA production at its finest
triple tank dive. What a weird world
triple tank oooh
it's season 3 again boys
nice 5 energy
Cantus with potg rez to save the day pls
0 energy
wtf
they just let them cap
what the fuck?
they weren't even down a man
they just walked off and didn't take advantage of their positioning
do you think C9 cheers any time someone C9s because if someone C9s hard enough they'll become the new C9
lul
like, LH almost became a meme with their C9 at the end of APEX
well
Brutal Savage Rekt
They should have pulled back.
Nippy Kind Langur
80 to another grav lol
wtf another grav
if NZ keeps C9ing the meme might become NZ LUL
is this hoon?
lmao again
the acoustics bother me so much
sinatraa the guy that can get 3 gravs in 2 mins
They have families.
Sinatraa is the hardest carry
SELFLESS STRATS
Sinatraa is half KR half German so you might be onto something @toxic yacht
lmao
ikr
Team NZ didn't feed Sinatraa that much ult and allow them to win the first team fight
but they let US cap the point moronically
Sinatraa hard carry
at that point US has better positioning to take advantage
damn 2 gravs in like 10 secs
Sin Tracer 
so is this the strat the US is planning to use to beat SK? Triple tank with Sinatraa on grav?
probably not
happy to see jake on genji, I always got salty whenever he played tracer instead of train
SK will study the footage
Hi spam is back
selfless strats
the thing with jake is, jake in inconsistent as shit
sinatra makes this round 8-0 😄
JAKE 
one day he looks like a god
Cantus 
and he lost blade too
good
6 ults 
LUL
oh another NA balde
Zenyatta > Genji
if Seagull wasn't in jail NA would be doing better

lol
...
NZ lost with like 6 ults to 2
in a nutshell
that's some throws
omg usa
Bastards, they have a gear stand.
at least it'll be over fast






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