#esports-discussion
clever portal
smoky hinge
red anvil
Team soul buys LWB and LH1 main roster and got a complete 12 man squad ๐
Did LWB buy Mano to have him for team seoul ๐ค
toxic yacht
I literally posted that a few messages up 
balmy wolf
Which match so far had a Mei in world cup 17?
red anvil
uh we saw her a few times, i forgot exactly which though
Someone brought her out on point A lunar defense, and someone brought her out on start of dorado defense
balmy wolf
Which stage is it?
balmy wolf
Anyone know what keyboard and mouse the players are using in World Cup?
distant dust
this? http://on-winning.com/overwatch-pro-sensitivity-settings-setups-monitor-mouse-keyboard-headset/ @balmy wolf i know its not only world cup but some are the list too of course
smoky hinge
Every player brings in thier own KB/M
just go check out the player's own twitch page or something, they usually have thier setup listed there
red anvil
they bring there own K, M and earbuds
balmy wolf
I only remember seeing Logitech G Pro keyboard
and they all wear same headphone so....
fresh arrow
keyboards and mouses are different
red anvil
lots of them use G pros because easy to move around with
fresh arrow
headsets appear to be provided
red anvil
and yes headsets are provided because they need to be isolating
also Logitech like sponsoring teams
Remeber unlike Apex, they are sitting in same room as the crowd so they can hear what the announcers say without white noise
i feel sorry for them having to play with earbuds tho, rip sound
balmy wolf
You mentioned they wear headset then move on to say they play with earbuds, well, which one is it?
balmy wolf
How does one wear earbud and headset at the same time
red anvil
earbuds inside the headset
opaque owl
balmy wolf
In my experience, they're easy to fall out of your ear if you wear a headset on top
Considering the cup is pressing against the wire
red anvil
that just depends on the headset cup size
wary falcon
Txao (russian d.va) about SBB (korean tracer) - not a strong but average good tier tracer, nothing outstanding
clever portal
balmy wolf
or G502
red anvil
the G502 and G900 are both heavy mice
balmy wolf
Pros all like light mices?
red anvil
more or less yeah
wary falcon
they like good mices
red anvil
they got the same internal stuff
just the weight for comfort or speed that is the thing
wary falcon
Logitech G-series and Zowie are best atm
red anvil
i will probably go for G403 wired or wireless next
balmy wolf
G502 Master Race
balmy wolf
Strange, I dont find it heavy at all
wary falcon
G403 is light for me
red anvil
thats because you havent tried light mouses
red anvil
Knox, Spree, RJH
Miro
so typical offtanks
except RJH being RJH and RJH is a wierdo
spring lintel
Why does everyone think flash wolves got a chance against SK?
Saw some vods of them and they are normal
bronze minnow
red anvil
thats a wierd office word mice
limber pine
clever portal
@bronze minnow out ๐ค
true tide
@toxic yacht You think flame is the best analyst?
I mean, I guess there really isn't anyone else, I found him really underwhelming compared to the way people were hyping him up.
toxic yacht
I wouldn't call him mega fucking amazing or anything, but he's kind of the only thing we have in the west atm
true tide
Yeah, that's fair. He's the only one really consistently doing it.
clever portal
He needs to work on his communication
true tide
He really does. "Yeah that sucks, I don't know why they would do that."
I could read twitch chat for that pro level insight. I want more.
clever portal
He's not casual friendly at all
He needs to work on that
And have less filler like "I don't know why you would do that"
clever portal
Hoping Soe gets gud 
true tide
Soe is the perfect mix of analyst and hype happiness bomb. I love her.
toxic yacht
yeah, he rarely goes super in depth about what hes seeing, feel like it's because he kind of already understands all of it and doesn't really feel the need to explain it
true tide
True. Monte's vod review thing he did, was just so good. That's what I'd like to see from Flame. It doesn't have to be a whole match, just pick out a great fight and tell us why it worked so well.
Maybe that's why he struggles? He tries to do the whole match and gets tired?
toxic yacht
his style may be one of the reasons, actually
since he watches the entire match and just talks over it, it's hard to go really in-depth about specific things
true tide
That makes sense.
toxic yacht
the moments where he really shines imo are when he actually breaks down a teamfight
like, pauses it, rewinds it around and just instantly recognizes everything what's happening although he's actually seeing it for the first time
but yeah, I'd be interested in how he'd do if he'd just break down individual moments instead of whole matches
true tide
That would be honestly less tedious. Some people excel at the whole match, some don't.
Personally, I prefer it if it's players commentating on their play, to let us know what they were thinking if it was planned or a misplay.
clever wagon
Geez, what the fuck is up with LW all of a sudden
Also, aren't there moments of PapaSmithy having some of the sharper breakdowns of a play on the fly compared to other casters?
vernal obsidian
I have no idea who LW is so they're probably not good.
clever wagon
Thankfully your idea doesn't matter a tiny bit
vernal obsidian
ikr
clever wagon
Neither do you as an individual
vernal obsidian
ye
clever wagon
@red anvil Also Kaku RJH is using a G402, not 502
They're terribly similar and I also thought he was using a 502 but the spec listing on his Twitch apparently says it's a 402
Unless he already bought a 502 since I saw that...
red anvil
he swapped to g502
true tide
LW is a mess.
clever wagon
Not that actually boosted me to t500 
๐ซ
true tide
My heart goes out to Luna T_T
clever wagon
Luna and Adios now btw
red anvil
had a good time in poland at least?
true tide
I hope it was just some tragic coincidence, not that they did it so late so he couldn't find a team.
clever wagon
Adios was kicked from LW Red after making it to 1st league (APEX LAN?) in the same manner as Luna did
true tide
POLAND WAS SO F'KN LIT OMG. I'm having trouble readjusting back to work.
red anvil
haha, good to hear ๐
clever wagon
Notified of not making it into the roster on the final day of submission
true tide
Not just final day, literally hours before, in the early morning, when the other teams have locked rosters.
What a dick move.
clever wagon
2x of the same way a player is kicked off the org in a very close time window
red anvil
such a shit move
clever wagon
I think the fans of their players might as well start calling them out on it
true tide
They already are apparently.
clever wagon
Even Flower himself was ๐ค
red anvil
hope the theories from certain other discords are correct
LH is bought along with SBB
and possibly flower
clever wagon
Good, the latest reddit thread hasn't told me what the fans are up to
Bought by? @red anvil
clever wagon
Shit
red anvil
its a theory still but it's viable
clever wagon
I'm still wishing SKT name would make it into OW somehow...
Imagine how big of a fanbase would buy into it
Well, if the state of the game itself is ready, that is
Right, and the Seoul spot is owned by Kabam
So definitely not SKT as of now
pine star
Twitter
true tide
Maybe waiting for the WC players to be back?
toxic yacht
inb4 whoru kicked
solid spear
Rip Hidan :/
balmy wolf
discord mobile strike again
wary falcon
cute indeed
balmy wolf
and also, Hidan BibleThump
wary falcon
Didn't expect Liquid to drop their team
blazing parrot
mobile is so trash lol
red anvil
hmnn we need a flower junkrat vs manachu pharah
also how did magenchus jersey fit flower
and vice versa
blazing parrot
dont use it
clever wagon
I'm not
wary falcon
Discord mobile lags only on this server for me
Others are fine
It's probably because this server is huge unlike others (<300 people)
vernal obsidian
The new discord mobile version crashes on my Google Pixel that's running the developer preview of Android O
:[
solid spear
I mean when I'm at work I have to use it
vernal obsidian
you have to or you choose to out of boredom?
true tide
Same, Discord Mobile is trash for this server.
solid spear
what would I do if I couldnt see all of your comments when I wasnt home ๐
true tide
Act?
solid spear
not sure what hes talking about tbh
solid spear
I'm sorry you think that
clever wagon
I mean Hifumin is clearly better
Esp with the new episode that just came out
This a weeb chat now
magic oak
Anyone know a top 5 Reinhardt named Sweethardt or Zaction?
He coaches now?
We think he's scamming
true tide
oic
pine star
Reformed Oreo sucks tbh
clever portal
Bring back Shitoge 
true tide
Whoooooo! Luna has KD trial.
toxic yacht
KD Luna
MakeUnciaGreatAgain
wait, Luffy is on Runaway now
or is he?
I forgot
he's on KDP
whoops
solid spear
Luffy is on Uncia
clever portal
Could be an option
Imo Luna isn't exactly an upgrade
But maybe he fits in better
pine star
Uncia is basically Panthera's bench 
toxic yacht
luna was only throwing with nanos
imo
in S2 he used nano very defensively
which often led to him throwing them
on a dying target
and surprise, the target died
lol
I still don't understand why KDU cut lucid
probably something not related to his skill
pine star
Slowpoke
solid spear
@solemn ember I would suggest #lfg-pc-na-ranked or wait for a lfg lucioball channel to be created when the event starts
solemn ember
Ok
solid spear
gotta have a quality bench
pine star
rapid oxide
Lucio patch is live
Can't understand why retards have to post it on reddit
Like if no one had the idea to post the patch is live
solid spear
PTR patch pls 
clever wagon
!LFT [EU] TheSojum [Flex]
Housing a bully with the bullied might not be such a good idea
solid spear
:/
solid spear
I am Oreo ._.
clever wagon
(Actually not really)
pine star
No you're not
clever portal
Is Oreo kill? 
clever wagon
Must be
13 MB/s download 
Swimsuit skins in my safe Christian game? Overweeb confirmed animo?
clever portal
Swimsuit skins 
toxic yacht
I want this new Widowmaker skin inside me
pine star
Same
toxic yacht
pine star
I do not deny that
solid spear
._.
austere flame
pine star
wat
solid spear
PTR :/
clever wagon
This just fucking in
Server reset because of a leaver, dropped in dorado with 5v6, match aborted
no SR loss
q'd for new comp, won 4-3, 0 SR gain
Fucking
Fuck
wintry kraken
toxic yacht
solid spear
naisu
balmy wolf
Enough for both NA LCS and OWL
solid spear
yep
balmy wolf
All the payments are not immediate tho
So they will probably invest in facility and talents with the money for now
supple nymph
'don't play comp' spam starting to build up on reddit
yet again
guess im not playing until later
limber pine
I CAN ONLY DELETE SO QUICKLY
blazing parrot
all the mods are working overclocked
supple nymph
no not complaining about the spam
just that this happens and the only way we know is people saying 'comp is bugged'
toxic yacht
don't ever play comp after a major update, especially when an event is there
supple nymph
it's stupid
toxic yacht
I think that that's self-explanatory
supple nymph
[score hidden]
limber pine
yeah that's new
clever portal
Reminder that investment doesn't 100% mean OWL
Liquid got investment as well
VP got 100
toxic yacht
nV seems pretty invested in OW atm, as opposed to liquid whose roster went to shit at a time when OW was super unstable
balmy wolf
fucking quake
toxic yacht
the roster doesn't seem to be disolving anytime soon, they got invited to korea 3 times, are a top NA team and got a free contenders spot
except the org has decided that OWL sux
but I kinda doubt it
wintry matrix
well, there was the rumours that NV were seen as separate players
clever portal
If any org could claim could use their performance to get investment
It would be NV
wintry matrix
ye
toxic yacht
he streams btw, not streaming now though
I'm probably the only one who was impressed with him though 
vestal mortar
I was impressed
solid spear
limber pine
it's really his own damn fault
balmy wolf
i doubt he actually cares one of his alts got banned for a week
thorn forum
ripe urchin
I joined a game of lucio ball in overtime where the ball already fell through the map and everyone was stuck there
balmy wolf
wow amazing too bad it isn't esports
true tide
I played comp, was fine! Two games.
pine star
solid spear
everytime theres an overwatch announcement and it has nothing to do with PTR 
balmy wolf
everytime you get baited 
supple nymph
clever portal
I need to come here to mute the new channels 
solid spear
2 weeks its been :/
I guess we have to wait for the quality patch that Im sure is in store
supple nymph
@balmy wolf https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6shoga/interview_nata_nanzer_overwatch_league/
didn't you predict this
balmy wolf
predict wut
supple nymph
nothing...
balmy wolf
if you mean some more news out
that's not what i meant by news
think of the "OWL release the minimal salary and benefits" kind of news
solid spear
by announcements again
solid spear
Doomfist has 62% winrate in GM LUL
last lantern
Mangachu and Roolf on Around the watch tmmrw at 6pm PST
balmy wolf
Twitter
blazing parrot
LOL
supple nymph
Twitter
clever wagon
The performance stats display looks awful with that thin white outline
Jesus
Even quick play is fucked
pine star
@balmy wolf HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
What the hell is that tweet? LMFAO
Literally the most retarded thing I've read all week
blazing parrot
@pine star its just a troll
person has lft in bio as well
and their youtube video is 
clever wagon
I mean, with the community being itself
It sure doesn't sound like a troll
I'm not gonna be surprised if that's the case
supple nymph
๐ซ
clever wagon
UUUGH
This whole reformation is starting to creep me out
What are you planning Oreo
Are you like thinking you could guilt trip every one of us from now on when we bully you for being a weeb
wintry matrix
is just the new way of being toxicc
clever wagon
But I'm not the one that's usually being poked around 
solid spear
It's not a meme ._.
balmy wolf
sure seems like one
solid spear
Unlucky
clever wagon
LW is really on fire
clever wagon
What?
clever portal
Luna got kicked at 4 am last night
clever portal
red anvil
clever portal
So the LW statement comes out soon
I wonder what they'll say
Coach was drinking?
red anvil
Something something long time performance, info didn't get trough, it was a mistake from our side to be waiting so long, we regret not giving him the boot sooner, we appolgize and hope together we can work past our mistakes and for the better of LWB future and go for s4 apex victory, thanks
btw, we no longer got sbb and flower
we are gone lose
clever portal
LW and LH rosters will be interesting
vestal mortar
Mano is so nice ๐ญ
red anvil
should have kidnapped a couple of them koreans tara
vestal mortar
Don't think I would have gotten away with it, their coach/handler wouldn't even allow photos.
clever portal
Force RJH to boost you
vestal mortar
"Too many people"
red anvil
awh
balmy wolf
So whats the lwb drama?
clever portal
LWR kicked a player at around the same time as well
red anvil
hahaha, yes pls
the other group is gone be interesting af. tho
all teams are pretty solid
my favorite to come to top is probably UK, or israel since there already a team
clever portal
Israel isn't that good though
They didn't make contenders
Kafeeeeeeeee is a good player
balmy wolf
They also have the advantage of months of scrims
clever portal
I wonder how Belgium will do
balmy wolf
Just to think that a month ago there would have been 4 players on teams on this roster http://i.imgur.com/7H6xMJY.png
red anvil
baud
balmy wolf
^
smoky hinge
mm
balmy wolf
He most likely will
clever portal
Going to pull a Zunba?
smoky hinge
His pharah is pretty solid as well
red anvil
he is probably my favorite zarya in EU
toxic yacht
spree is on faze though?
so 3 players
I mean, yeah, still 4
but your phrasing makes it sound like all 4 are rip
even though there is a big phat faze next to spree
balmy wolf
i used that face way before oreo
pseudo sail
ICYMI, my latest write-up. ^^
RadoN's key takeaways from APEX S3
http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/6130
toxic yacht
people using winston's lab to cut players now 
okay, that's an exaggeration, but you get what I mean
true tide
lol
toxic yacht
the luna situation was internal stats tracking
true tide
I feel for Luna.
true tide
That tilts me so hard. "Well I have gold damage!"
Yeah, but we lost the point because you over extended.
I wish ranked had a scoreboard. I see why they didn't implement one, but I wish they had one.
red anvil
i'm glad they dident
toxic yacht
I hate people using medals as an argument, it's like, zen complains about gold damage and elims, but he plays like a dps and dies and fucks over the entire team, rein plays like a dps and gets gold medals while fuckign everyone over, but somehow it's the dps' fault. The dps has gold damage, so he's obviously perfect (yeah, totally not like you're supposed to have those because you literally only deal damage)
like, raaaa
people are so retarded
true tide
Honestly, it tilts me so hard when people use medals to justify their shitty play.
red anvil
for instance i main tracer, but i play tracer to win a fight rather then just trying to kill everyone like a mental retard
toxic yacht
nono, dva whines about gold elims
because her shotguns hits everything on the screen
red anvil
sure i wont have gold damage or gold elims, but i sure will have a victory
toxic yacht
but like
stats gathering in OW
is so bad
I would never use stats to judge a team
like, even if it's only secondary
there is so much information missing in them
red anvil
me neither, but people look on numbers thinking they mean something they do not
toxic yacht
you're better off just watching vods without trying to tie stats to them
red anvil
if you look on LH's K/D's to any other team, you see they play way differently
true tide
I support main, and it's useful to know who to focus healing on if no-one is talking. But I guess, the it's just better to get people talking.
red anvil
Miro will always have all the kills, but do that mean he do the most dps?
obviously not
true tide
Right.
toxic yacht
pls, we all know that tobi has gold damage and the most kills
true tide
They all work to make sure he can do his part.
I just wish people would play ranked with a team mentality.
red anvil
Tobis a god like player who never dies, and have a infinite K/D ratio
true tide
Instead of this DPS must shine, fuck you I have gold damage, why aren't you healing me exclusively even though I'm balls deep in their back line?
clever portal
Winston's labs LUL
It doesn't have shit
Not even gold damage
They literally have people watching the games looking at the kill feed
Maybe with full stats you could make an argument
For example another player has 1k more healing on average and higher accuracy
You could say they're an upgrade on paper
clever wagon
Well, LW done and got themselves burned by the fans already, esp after that damage control? How's that looking for them?
radiant garden
is there schedule for LA group stage or not yet?
forest raven
forest raven
Liquipedia has by hours as well
radiant garden
Oh ur right. tnx!
forest raven
np my dude
balmy wolf
@toxic yacht i probably actually know who's the one that supply LW the stat that so-indicated that Luna is "underperformed"
gold medals btw 
gold medals btw gold medals btw gold medals btw gold medals btw
limber pine
O_o
balmy wolf
WizardHyeong. Remember him? At one point he interviewed me for his job as an assistant
He mainly coaches by using Sabermetrics
my job was basically just watch vods and accumulates statistics
too bad he never follow up on the interview but yeah
wintry matrix
what stranges me more about the LW situation is how dumb it is
like, why the hell go to problem of having a small revenge (which Luna still will get to a team anyway, maybe with a bit less of practice than otherwise), and the whole "based on stats" which prob even plats know there's way more than that to a player's skill
on other news i guess Taimou already hates the game again
solid spear
That's a shame since DF just came out and hes a fun, well balanced hero :/
Hopefully Taimou will be happy again soon since he has to play in contenders next week :)
wintry matrix
clever portal
Imo the whole LW situation was just unprofessional
They were probably considering replacing him
And decided on it at 4 am on the day before the deadline
Probably without malice
clever portal
The 'statement' is apparently coming soon
But you already posted what it'll probably be
wintry matrix
btw, what's the rewards for ranked in games like csgo and lol?
wary falcon
ranked in games like csgo
150 wins = Overwatch (you will have ability to review cases of suspected cheaters/griefers)
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix third party ladder has better wins than the in game
like FPL, for example
where you can actually qualify for semi pro plays
and also you can convert those points you accumulate in FPL into real world reward as well
wary falcon
so a lot of people use cheats to earn money on faceit
wintry matrix
winning real money seems weird
thick cosmos
Vivi's vs Singularity now soon
balmy wolf
real world money is secondary for a chance to get into premier
wintry matrix
yeah, but that's only for top 500. maybe some gms
balmy wolf
just like it should work
wintry matrix
what's the incentive for lower ranks then?
balmy wolf
faceit is only use for people who wants to grind to begins with
so most of the time they all has the same goal
get into master league
and then try to qualify for challenger
and 2 from challenger will get to pro
clever portal
The incentive should be your competitiveness and wanting to get more challenging games at higher ranks
wintry matrix
i guess what at happens at OW is that maybe people who don't have that mindset don't get punished
balmy wolf
or rather, a chance of getting pluck into the pro scene
wintry matrix
which is kinda weird to me that people will just go on toxic auto-pilot in comp
balmy wolf
since FPL is basically where teams look for ladder stars to develop and recruit
blazing parrot
i know this isnt really related to overwatch
but its a good analysis of luck-skill and competitiveness
@solid spear you should watch it ๐
wintry matrix
yeah i saw that video, really cool
solid spear
I mean Ill watch it but why me ๐ค
blazing parrot
wintry matrix
because you're a nice and understanding person
solid spear
ah thank you ๐ you too
clever portal
Oreo 
blazing parrot
oreo 
solid spear
dont break me ๐ฆ
blazing parrot
zarya could
clever portal
solid spear
clever portal
Dafran back? 
solid spear
in all honesty I like Seamoose hes a cool dude, closet weeb and a clown on discord but I dont think I can hate on the decision
red anvil
Seaomoose is the guy who went on xQc right?
solid spear
he had a thing with xQc last week yes
I wonder if this will affect the players theyve been trialing at all ๐ค
clever portal
Maybe they'll actually build a proper squad
solid spear
Logix 4th in NA ๐ฎ
wintry matrix
rip brad
supple nymph
ic
solid spear
that wouldnt be a very smart reason to fire you rcoach
wintry matrix
is this significant? https://blog.faceit.com/faceit-to-host-overwatch-open-division-western-europe-season-2-480c38fddd57
smoky hinge
rapid oxide
๐
rough night
..... seamoose! NoooOOooooo!
clever portal
Seamoose fans?
solid spear
Seamoose is cool
solid spear
Wonder what roster implications it has if any
wintry matrix
do we even know if seamoos is good or bad coach?
i'd want to see drafran on NRG just to see how big of a trainwreck would it be
balmy wolf
Wait, seamoose got fired?
supple nymph
yes
the revolving door of NRG continues
they must have wasted so much money
all those tryouts are kinda useless now arent they
since he was the one doing them
solid spear
I think its a good hire
blazing parrot
yea
supple nymph
the manager isnt even an OW guy what would he have to do with the decision?
solid spear
I like Seamoose the person though
blazing parrot
he worked tsm no?
solid spear
Obviously can't say shit about him as a coach
blazing parrot
so he had some experience
wintry matrix
coaching doesn't necessarily means scouting
supple nymph
i guess
solid spear
Derrick is terrible bruh
solid spear
@supple nymph he's still the GM
blazing parrot
supple nymph
i guess i look at it as the coach doing the analysis
and making a recomendation
so while the GM makes the final decision all the data he has is from the coach
is that not how it works?
solid spear
Idk specifics it likely varies from team to team
blazing parrot
@limber pine HOW DARE YOU!1111 
supple nymph
like a regular company you have a hiring manager but the ultimate decision might be by the CEO
blazing parrot
im sure
supple nymph
but all he has to go off of is the hiring manager's input
blazing parrot
brady can pick up the reins
he wont have trouble
and its not like this came out of left field they probably knew about it for a while
and just released the news to public
spring lintel
It's sad how dafran disappeared
blazing parrot
wouldnt be suprised if there was like 1 week long training period where seamoose worked with brady to go over everything
no. its not
the guy is a manchild
IT WAS HIS PLAN ALL ALONG TO GET OUT OF ESPORTS WHAT A MASTERMIND1111
lol give me a break
solid spear
I'm sure Brad knows about all the people currently trialing it's not really much of a secret
blazing parrot
ye ^
spring lintel
is this drama material ? https://clips.twitch.tv/AverageAmazingSloth4Head
solid spear
Kvo Dafran stuff hes alluded to forever
Since before he was banned
Just assumed maybe it was burnout and it wouldnt be a long term issue and he would come back is all :/
blazing parrot
@solid spear m e h
if it was burnout there are other ways to deal with it
if its mental problems
limber pine
wut
solid spear
I agree
blazing parrot
well thats a whole other can of worms
solid spear
I wish he didnt go about it the way he did
But this isn't stuff that was just recently made up
blazing parrot
solid spear
I miss my dad :/
blazing parrot
solid spear
I wouldn't be sure of that
solid spear
eh
not exactly
Sinatraa can actually play some projectile and possibly DF while Idd is clearly better than Sin on hitscan that isnt Tracer
I mean Sinatraa isnt trialing with them as of now anyway so thats just speculation based on the coach
spring lintel
If sinatraa can play good projectiles hero then it's good
But imo he is not that good with projectile heroes. With their money they can get better
solid spear
I mean thats why theyre trialing traditional projectile players and not Sin
but in theory it could work I think
whether theyd actually mesh in practice I could never predict
clever portal
Oreo an insider
spring lintel
If they get flower it's gonna be lit
solid spear
I got a deal on the Antarctica spot only $19M
solid spear
well guys like Nesh and Mendo have a huge pool and are free (Mendo technically under contract but ye) if thats specifically what they were looking for
but idk if theyre looking for someone with a huge pool or rather just someone who compliments their other players whether or not the pool is large
solid spear
It is highly unlikely Seagull ends up back on NRG
clever portal
He would be good for popularity
spring lintel
But it's weird cause I don't think he will find an OWL team
solid spear
I think he will mainly because him being on your team ensures you will be quite popular even if you arent particularly good
which has value
hes by far the most popular OW player despite having not played professionally in all of 2017
thick cosmos
So the legend series Grand finals that is gonna be played offline is gonna be Singularity vs Vivi's Adventure
toxic yacht
wintry matrix
oh dip
thick cosmos
Vivi's got full held on gibraltar by singularity and then almost got eliminated by ence
solid spear
offline 
thick cosmos
Yea its a lan final
blazing parrot
im pretty sure seagull said hes going back to nrg for owl
solid spear
he said "hell yeah" when someone asked if hed play in OWL
I dont think he said anything more specific than that
I know Seamoose said back when he was coach that they were building with the assumption that Seagull wouldnt be on the team but they would love to have him back
toxic yacht
he said that he's going to play
didn't specificy which team, lul
oh, weeabooman just said that
anyway, seagull is like, the most popular pro player by a really fucking large margin, I doubt that NRG wants to lose him, lul
solid spear
theyd prefer to keep him if possible
toxic yacht
I'm assuming that they've been trying to build the roster with him in mind since he said that he's gonna play again
also, tviq knows about who's gonna replace movi in contenders, he can't really talk about it though
solid spear
toxic yacht
looking at his twitch, he hasn't streamed regularily for a while
solid spear
I think he was taking a bit of a break
I know he was streaming other games for a few days
clever portal
I'm going to guess Expert
Is some free agent team going to pay?
Maybe if they're confident they'll get top 4
It's a gamble though
toxic yacht
also, leaf is instalocking doomfist the entire time
he's been playing a ton of DF for mixy mix
thick cosmos
Probably expert unless they can't play for some reason
Leafs doomfist is pretty good
toxic yacht
ya
thick cosmos
Mixy mix has almost taken maps off singularity and vivi's with their doomfist comp
clever portal
last lantern
So contenders is next week
Liquid hasn't sold their spot yet
Movistar disbanded and it seems no one is replacing them
And reinforce is in LA for the weekend
How is misfits preparing
balmy wolf
A team is replacing Riders, we just don't know who
clever portal
Did you get a new color?
balmy wolf
No i've clearly had this colour the whole time
solid spear
people coming after Hifumi smh
last lantern
Lmao
thorn holly
Neptuno will take The spot
toxic yacht
Neptuno will clone himself 5 times and make a team
regal trench
blazing parrot
clever wagon
NRG_Brad
pine star
Pure, raw emote material
blazing parrot
@clever wagon dont mind polo. he just spends all his day staring at reddit and the internet in order to be the first on top of the news
solid spear
Hes dedicated ๐
balmy wolf
slowpokes should stick together, you're right
pine star
Get a room
limber pine
OWPS and APEX this week. OWWC this weekend. OWC and OPC next week
gonna be a fun couple of weeks
supple nymph
we have the best esport, don't we folks?
clever wagon
@pine star Fuck u
blazing parrot
@clever wagon im sure he would like that
solid spear
blazing parrot
uh huh
short vault
WutFace
go to London
solid spear
woah woah
we deleting pogs again ๐ค
but uh yeah thats cool idk what thisll mean for current C9 maybe theyll just try and get Eunited or something
if this is true that should giveus 10 teams
balmy wolf
cant stop the DAE OW DEAD train tho
feral solar
any decent news today? wasnt on for the whole day
balmy wolf
9 messages up
solid spear
its more weird cuz like nationality of players is whatever but NV has been located in NA forever
C9 is an NA org so being London is a thonker
feral solar
clever wagon
Lol
clever portal
Let the next slots be EU ๐
thick cosmos
@limber pine The legend series final date and location is gonna be announced today, don't know when.
balmy wolf
maybe it took him awhile to write it
solid spear
it's a better article Im just meming
balmy wolf
wow i had no idea you were memeing wow
balmy wolf
this reformed meme is stupid
clever portal
vestal mortar
London yesss
vestal mortar
Yaaa
true tide
Will we get to be esports now?
vestal mortar
Maybe I'll get to watch more games live. ๐ญ
solid spear
interesting for sure especially with it being C9
vestal mortar
Indeed
balmy wolf
hopefully they just drop their roster now
or sell it
and get eUnited
that'd be lit
forest raven
C9 eUnited
clever portal
They can't win OWL with that
forest raven
PogChamp
solid spear
current C9 wouldnt be top 8
clever portal
Add DVa player
forest raven
I can see nV and Rogue beating eU but I think they'd beat IMT
solid spear
its hard to say
clever portal
IMT is better imo
solid spear
IMT played Rogue closer
balmy wolf
The eU roster is better than their current one 100%
solid spear
and are better with Envy in
idk they wouldnt win OWL or anything
but with current C9 roster theyd be near the bottom likely
balmy wolf
they're not going to win owl by just picking up any roster
They should just give up on their current roster
it's a sinking ship at this point
abandon it and pick up a good team with good chemistry
clever portal
Current C9 roster has 'potential'
balmy wolf
and good potential
balmy wolf
lmao c9 doesnt have potential my dude
clever portal
I mean on paper
balmy wolf
C9 had potential months ago
clever portal
You could see them top 3
balmy wolf
They're done now
clever portal
Yes
solid spear
games not played on paper 
balmy wolf
I'd say they're just going to try and get the most money out of this roster
clever portal
eU is a typical EU team
balmy wolf
More like the top EU team
clever portal
All in on dive and 3 dps
clever portal
Kittenz will win contenders
balmy wolf
you seem to forget that their core is the core of ReUnited one of the best teams in the world at the time
clever portal
They would also have free picks on all FA
I guess they could just get a few more players
clever portal
To fix what their issues appear to be
balmy wolf
yeah becasue that's worked so far lol
solid spear
even if they dont buy EU
they shouldnt continue with this roster imo
but if they want to for whatever reason
they can buy Liquids spot and see em in contenders
balmy wolf
Roolf seems to have dropped off
clever portal
At this point it feels like the core itself
balmy wolf
Since being picked up by C9
At the time he was one of the best supports in NA and now he's just
solid spear
eh they do the same thing NRG does I think and just throw together rosters filled with "talent" and think thatll solve everything
their results just arent as embarassing
balmy wolf
Maybe they thought that if they imported some koreans they'd be fine
solid spear
I mean I guess theres Mesr available hes a better monkey than Kaiser
balmy wolf
Mesr is going to be picked up like that my dude
clever portal
Or xQc
solid spear
I dont think Gods is anything special at least on the heros hes having to play for them
and things like team environment well never know
balmy wolf
"best gamesense in the game"
solid spear
but C9 has had over a dozen different players in the last year
solid spear
idk man theyve been running through teammates like no other team
so I just have to wonder
clever portal
Kungarna was better than C9 
clever portal
Ryb
solid spear
Kungarna lul
balmy wolf
More like Kungarna is better than C9
Despite everyone's hate for the team, they are very good
solid spear
teams will be so different though
balmy wolf
mykL will be the end of them 
clever portal
Mykl was right about C9
clever portal
