esports-discussion

[clever wagon]

Fuckin Liquid

Then again

They're all relatively readily available for them currently lmao

[tough wind]

monkaS

[wary falcon]

I don't remember winz as top tier quake player

🤔

[tough wind]

he was

[blazing parrot]

@tough wind

[tough wind]

[wintry matrix]

i'd say quake is easy to watch as casuals

is just so boring

[balmy wolf]

sacrifice is very confusing

duel is easy to watch though

[tough wind]

sacrifice is worse to watch than any esport i have seen

[balmy wolf]

yeah its pretty terrible

[tough wind]

this hurts my eyes to watch

tbh i dont know how doom didnt become an esport over this

[balmy wolf]

they never tried i guess

[tough wind]

some of the doom game modes are actually sick

and its similar in a lot of ways to quake

[wary falcon]

i prefer UT over Quake

[tough wind]

u should try doom

[wary falcon]

last time i touched Doom in 2004

[clever wagon]

Maybe a game that's directly under the Quake franchise is easier to market for them

Rather than raising an eSport that's basically Quake but isn't Quake in name

[wintry matrix]

is doom multiplayer popular?

like, enough to warrant esports? i always hear people saying it improved a lot

tho now that i think about i can't remember a popular esport that has a significant single-player mode, all of them are primarely multiplayer-focused

i guess COD maybe

[civic marsh]

halo lul

[wary falcon]

popular esport that has a significant single-player mode

Starcraft, Warcraft III, Fighting games

Also UT99

Not sure if BF is fine

[wintry matrix]

tru about Star and War Craft

but the others are very primarely multiplayer

have you seen tekken 7 story mode?

is amazing

[wary falcon]

Bad Company 2 SP was good

[devout cipher]

Agreed ∆

[clever wagon]

EnVy finalized Austin-Dallas spot for 20M

Old news?

Ded gaem?

[balmy wolf]

slowpoke indeed

[clever wagon]

So SK actually held Volskaya B last 33% for 6 minutes

Not 4

That's a clusterfuck between 2cp lul and SK being SK

[uneven pivot]

Seeing Korea play with their comps felt like a breath of fresh air

[vestal mortar]

Yes it was very refreshing

[alpine cypress]

when's the next game

aww it only starts on the 11th

[feral solar]

can't wait till flower's doomfist

[vestal mortar]

Omg yes

[balmy wolf]

Guys punch kid is doomfist

[warm quail]

Nah libero and whoru's doomfist

[clever portal]

Whoru

[feral solar]

[frail wind]

hey guys. what do the sprays/tags indicate? I see this in pro stream/matcghes regularly. I can't figure out what they do want to indicate with this. May someone can enlighten me 😃 thanks

[red anvil]

it's just the players showing off because they can

nothing more then that

[frail wind]

yeah, is it? 😄

[vestal mortar]

A lot of them spray out of habit too, just a mindless thing to do before/after a team fight. It doesn't really mean anything.

[clever portal]

The hi spammers PunOko

[frail wind]

thanks guys. Was always wondering what I was missing.

[clever wagon]

Hi spammers are ok

I HOIYA everytime I Tracer too

[red anvil]

Haiya Heiyaaa haiyaaaaa

i love tracers haiyasss

my guilty pleasure as a tracer main

[clever wagon]

Aw, Rubbish! is another one of my favorite

[smoky hinge]

I can relate

[clever portal]

Ho-Ho-Ho

[quasi python]

winz back to quake? with liquid team ?

so who replace winz on rogue?

[balmy wolf]

it is only a temporary thing

[royal ore]

sk using every hero but symmetra so far is proof symmetra needs a buff

confirmed

[clever portal]

[balmy wolf]

:c

[pine star]

[blazing parrot]

i like how people are going "sk played off meta heroes that means we can to!11!1!1 :DDDDD "

[rapid oxide]

well... you can

but if you are good

im not complaining of off-meta pick

if they are good

[blazing parrot]

ye but to say "sk can do it == we can too" is just a dumb statement

[edgy remnant]

give most of the qualifying teams this WC 2 team slots next WC

2 SK teams

[blazing parrot]

oh god

[hollow egret]

whos your fav team??

[edgy remnant]

are we talking WC here or

[hollow egret]

nah club team

not country

[edgy remnant]

split between LH, KDP & MA

[blazing parrot]

LH

[edgy remnant]

think in order might go MA > KDP > LH

[hollow egret]

Lunatic Hai fan since the lost to rogue lol

they*

[blazing parrot]

k?

[hollow egret]

that was like fall 2016 i think

[solid spear]

LH least favorite team easy

[wintry matrix]

now that i think about it i don't think i have a favorite moment, i liked when misfits was this crazy innovative team, but only caugh them at their end, NIP is the same, the Runaway s2 roster

i guess Nv maybe

Geguri signed to Rox Orcas btw

[wary falcon]

Reunited ftw

[clever portal]

My favorite moment: Apex s2

I hope we haven't gone past the greatest moment of this game

[wintry matrix]

i don't think there will be a lot of storylines at first in OWL and contenders

at most stuff like Mickle and Kaiser trash-talking

taking down Rogue's reign

not very exciting stuff

[solid spear]

There probably will be in OWL

Contenders most interesting stuff is rosters cuz I know a couple teams that may look quite different

[wintry matrix]

the only big storyline i can see in OWL season 1 would be if LH somehow doesn't win

[solid spear]

Well the team won't be just LH for one

And I wouldn't be surprised at all if they didnt win although I guess it depends on the other rosters

[wintry matrix]

i dunno, i don't think it would be smart to change LH in any way

[clever portal]

OWL S1 storyline

[wintry matrix]

we may meme about esca but everyone says he's important

and Gido's alright

[clever portal]

Mykl proves the haters wrong

[solid spear]

No

[wintry matrix]

who is less mid tier? hafficool or mickle?

[clever portal]

Reverse sweeps the Bo7 finals against Seoul

[solid spear]

Chou literally said the plan was to take the core of an existing tean

And build from it

[clever portal]

While everyone chants USA USA

[solid spear]

That directly implies no full LH

[wintry matrix]

that worries me

mostly about LH

[solid spear]

Idk why

[clever portal]

SK > LH

[solid spear]

Well see the roster this week anyway

[wintry matrix]

like, that mentality can benefit lots of teams rn, but especially not LH

[clever portal]

IMO you don't need Esca and Gido

Teach the members mentality

[solid spear]

A big reason LH is so good is coaching

[wintry matrix]

i think having the mentality isn't that easy

[solid spear]

Their ability to adapt and come back from being down in a series

[clever portal]

Esca was not supposed to play this season

[wintry matrix]

like how even RJH being the oldest, and tinlting easily and what not

[solid spear]

If you replace the dps and keep the coaching staff the team would certainly be stronger

[clever portal]

So how will you guys react if Miro isn't on Seoul

[wintry matrix]

on paper yes

if Miro somehow isn't with LH, we'd have to argue who's dumber, miro, the LH team or the spot owner

[solid spear]

If anything I'm more inclined to keep Esca than Gido cuz I don't know how much his shotcalling matters

Since I'm not actually on the team

[wintry matrix]

and LH still can have an 8th member so you don't even need to replace esca or gido

[clever portal]

Gido is a swappable piece

Could put anyone in

I think the core idea is really good

[solid spear]

Same

[clever portal]

You work around the core

For example Cocco/Chips/Harry

[wintry matrix]

but would you want to get rid of effect?

or taimou for that matter?

even mickie

[solid spear]

Like imo KDP was a more talented team than LH but people always rave that they have by far the best coaching in the game

[clever portal]

No, but the team wouldn't be hurt by their loss

[solid spear]

He was using an example

[clever portal]

In the long term

[solid spear]

I also wouldn't compare Taimou/Effect to Esca/Gido to be quite honest

[wintry matrix]

i can see the core building working for lots of teams, even Rogue

but i think is way too risky to do that to LH, which is the most successful team rn

[solid spear]

I mean even LH did a mid season switch

They can clearly adapt to new players

And if theyre better thats a good thing probably

[wintry matrix]

i think that's a bit different from core building

since whoru leaving was the perfect time to test their 7th player

also bc it's only one new piece instead of 3 new players

[solid spear]

When people talk about about LH core

They usually mean tanks and supports

Were basically saying replace 2 dps instead of 1

[wintry matrix]

oh, by core i thought of 3 players for some reason

[solid spear]

I mean idk roster is being unveiled this week anyway so well see soon enough

[clever portal]

Miro

KDP next season

They got rid of the problem

[solid spear]

The LH team in Apex S4 is the sister team

[clever portal]

There is probably something

Where the spot belongs to the org

What if Seoul is the sister team?

[solid spear]

Eh idk

LH isn't super big

[clever portal]

Still good enough to win

[solid spear]

You could just buy contracts off them

And they can keep a team in Apex

[clever portal]

Yh, when money comes

Korea is kill

[solid spear]

Still have Whoru to put on other roster

Too smol for OWL anyway

[clever portal]

They don't have money

Btw, I don't think gido and Whoru can even play

In OWL

[solid spear]

Whoru cant

Idk how old Gido is

[clever portal]

I think they're the same age

[solid spear]

Then he can't play anyway

[clever portal]

Which is where the whole core thing can be from

Core = 5

[solid spear]

Core = 1

KDP + Jehong

[wintry matrix]

does the age thing really matter?

because there's tons of underage top players

would be somewhat dumb to just cutoff

[red anvil]

gido is 20

no wait

i'm lying nvm!

[clever portal]

You need to be 18

By June 2018

[red anvil]

gido is old enough

18 jan next year

[clever portal]

Imo the biggest reason to buy a whole team is

You get the apex spot

And train

[red anvil]

over 2 years untill whoru is 18

[clever portal]

With a mixed team what do you do?

Open divison?

[red anvil]

create a sister team to put the underage players

i'm not sure if i dare to see another all stars team though

after watching SK in action

[solid spear]

I'm simply not taking Gido over some other dudes for my OWL team

And I doubt think he will

[clever portal]

Oreo would want LH + Dafran

[solid spear]

I'm...

reformed

[clever portal]

No more dafran

[hollow egret]

whos the best player in the world rn?

[clever portal]

Look at team South Korea

Choose anyone

And it would be a decent answer

Honorable mentions: Miro, Birdring and Rascal

[wintry matrix]

tho i don't think you can really argue in terms of a "singular" best player

at least for now

maybe RJH, but dunno

even miro is outclassed in rein

[last lantern]

Best player in the world has to be between tviq flow3r s4

Well those are best DPs players

[feral birch]

koreans control overwatch players

others cant think for themselves

[last lantern]

That's so wrong wut

[solid spear]

I really hate the argument for best overall player

[clever portal]

Polo

Deleted?

[solid spear]

The best player argument never goes past specific characters without it getting kind of dumb and even then with no stats you could argue that even that argument is dumb

[balmy wolf]

Probably flow3r

imo

[blazing parrot]

flow3r then tviq imo

[last lantern]

I would agree

[wintry matrix]

even with stats, there's so much other variables

specially with the weird state OW esports it's been for a while

[balmy wolf]

@clever portal

[toxic yacht]

Apex S2 lineup back bois

https://twitter.com/RallyJaffa/status/894552764642086912

Young Jae Jeon (@RallyJaffa)

RunAway's final roster for APEX S4, as revealed by @Runner_Runaway on stream:

Twitter

with a few extra additions

jjanu is practicing lucio, presumably to replace runner because he sucks (feelsbad I'll miss him, I loved it when he broke the skill ceiling)

tizi is a good monkey

[clever portal]

@balmy wolf someone posted Exxu is on vivi now

[rapid oxide]

hope runner will be the coach or smth

[clever portal]

And deleted it

[toxic yacht]

I said that, it got autodeleted

he's not on vivi

[balmy wolf]

He subbed

[toxic yacht]

he was subbing

[balmy wolf]

for a tournament

[toxic yacht]

he's still with the meme reddit bois

[pine star]

https://twitter.com/uNFixedOW/status/844690094137262080

eUnited uNFixed (@uNFixedOW)

Soldier classics https://t.co/vW4JYq1oFH

Retweets

168

Likes

302

▶ Play video

Twitter

Never gets old

[balmy wolf]

too bad we didnt get to see that soldier at the wc

xd

[pine star]

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/mafu_ow/status/844692357685628929

Lauri Rasi (@mafu_ow)

@uNFixedOW why u do this man

Twitter

poor mafu

[pine star]

What was that

[blazing parrot]

wrong channel

[pine star]

lul

[toxic yacht]

the compression in twitter videos give me life

I want to puke

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/GrimRealityOW/status/894597881125937152

GrimReality (@GrimRealityOW)

HOLY MOLY! Thank you all for the kind wishes. I seriously appreciate all of you guys so much. I'm FINALLY AN ADULT LETS GOOO

Twitter

[pine star]

Legal

[rapid oxide]

Finally can be singed on OWL

[solid spear]

Naisu

[toxic yacht]

now he can make sex noises on stream

[solid spear]

Well he already could be signed

[clever portal]

I thought you need to be 21 in NA

[toxic yacht]

for context, someone in his chat asked him to make sex sounds and he was like "nah, I'm 17"

[solid spear]

21 is for alcohol

[pine star]

That's so retarded lol

[clever portal]

Not an adult if you can't drink

[toxic yacht]

you can be in a porn with 18

but you cannot drink alcohol

[clever portal]

You can smoke at 18

[pine star]

You can act in a porn movie at 18 but not have a beer

[clever portal]

Don't worry Sojum

[pine star]

...

[clever portal]

You can drink at 16

[rapid oxide]

and drive at 16 iirc

[pine star]

You so fast Sojum smh

[rapid oxide]

[toxic yacht]

you can also smoke with 16 here

[rapid oxide]

18 here everything

[pine star]

Age of consent in Colombia is 14

[solid spear]

I mean a lot of kids at uni drink anyway

[toxic yacht]

although, iirc 16 year olds can only alcoholic drink with super little alcohol

age of consent over here is funny

[clever portal]

Beer is good enough

[toxic yacht]

basically, 14+, but you need to be within 3 years of each other until you're 18

[clever portal]

Sojum

[solid spear]

It varies state to state here

[pine star]

I think it's something along those lines here too

But the age differential is more than 3 years iirc

[toxic yacht]

14 year old and a 20 year old

[pine star]

It's like 5 or something

[toxic yacht]

19

[pine star]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic yacht]

agilities is becoming 18 next year though iirc, when is all of the signing shit happening again?

[solid spear]

Now til October 30

[toxic yacht]

[solid spear]

Hes old enough though hes good

[toxic yacht]

ah

[pine star]

Yeah he can be signed regardless

[solid spear]

You just have to be 18 by June 2018

[clever portal]

Only KR players have a problem

Becuase they go pro at 16

[toxic yacht]

smh update

[pine star]

rip KR Genji one tricks

[vestal mortar]

🤔

[toxic yacht]

onour

nice one immortals.gg

[pine star]

onour

[toxic yacht]

fucking typos without his age being updated

[pine star]

ono

[solid spear]

Everyone makes mistakes

It's ok Sojum

[toxic yacht]

aythen is not on the website anymore

wait, what the fuck?

they have kariv, envy and fate

[pine star]

Yeah but no pic

[toxic yacht]

removed aythen and chance

but agilities is still 16

with a typo

also, kariv, fate and envy have no descriptions yet

[pine star]

Neither dropping Aythen and Chance, nor picking Chance, Kariv and Fate up affects Agilities

So they didn't update his profile

[toxic yacht]

hyped's gf has been removed too, at least

I mean, they could like

take a look

[pine star]

Wait, she's no longer IMT media girl?

[toxic yacht]

at the shit that was written

it really isn't hard

I read about her being rip a while ago, and she also isn't on the website anymore

[pine star]

She still says she's IMT community manager on her Twitter bio

[toxic yacht]

huh

dunno wtf is up then

[pine star]

Then again, some people never update their bio

Talespin is still @ Envy_Talespin on Twitter lol

[solid spear]

Rip that person you pinged

U_U

[pine star]

lol

[toxic yacht]

should have elft the ping tbh

so that he isn't left wondering about wtf happened

lul

[pine star]

Nah

That makes it even funnier

[tight vault]

so canada vs south korea

[toxic yacht]

[pine star]

wat?

[toxic yacht]

wat7?

[pine star]

lul7

[tight vault]

israel to win ow world cup 😛

[solid spear]

I hope that Israel provides quality matches this weekend :)

[pine star]

Blocked

[tight vault]

xD

[toxic yacht]

kafeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is going to carry 1v6

group G and H actually look interesting though

definitely won't be 4-0's

[clever portal]

Group G winner is fucked

[toxic yacht]

I think that only isreal and potentially NZ will get 4-0'd, lul

[tight vault]

my bets are USA and UK

[clever portal]

Taiwan and UK to go through

[toxic yacht]

USA

[tight vault]

NEW ZEALAND

[toxic yacht]

I want to believe in the US, but that fucking group

holy shit

[clever portal]

Cantus

[pine star]

ez for nz

[toxic yacht]

cantus gonna play mercy into dive

[solid spear]

I don't think any team from H gets to Blizzcon

[pine star]

[toxic yacht]

also, I agree with twoeasy, lul

next year we need benelux again

[pine star]

UK doesn't looks half bad tbh

[tight vault]

IRELAND

come back 😦

[toxic yacht]

NL only really has 4 pros

[red anvil]

Cantus with his pro healslut play

i hope they got a good pharah

[toxic yacht]

vizility looked pretty good though, hope that he gets picked up ro something

[pine star]

This looks kinda scary ngl

[solid spear]

Cantus is a quality player on a professional team I have no doubt he will do what he needs to do help his team win

[toxic yacht]

mikeya on pharah

[pine star]

Boombox

[toxic yacht]

realzx forgot how to play dps

lol

back to lucio, I guess

[tight vault]

spain 😛

[toxic yacht]

@pine star wait, did you steal the emote from me?

or is it on some non-love live server?

[vague eagle]

Lets discuss the international now

[toxic yacht]

[clever portal]

No mods

[limber pine]

[rapid oxide]

tomorrow lucioball patch right?

[balmy wolf]

Yes

[rapid oxide]

cool!

wish there's something more inside but i dont have too much hope for that

spectator features are in work since months already

[wintry matrix]

prob in the WC proper maybe

considering the qualifiers were all 3rd party prod companies

[solid spear]

I want that PTR patch they said was coming asap 2 weeks ago -_-

[rapid oxide]

yeah.......

"coming soon"

i'm scared it will come with lucio patch

without testing

[solid spear]

I doubt it

[rapid oxide]

it's blizzard

[solid spear]

They make sure to put it in for 3 weeks and change absolutely nothing Then put it live :)

Won't get changed regardless doesn't matter

[jagged crater]

cant wait for cantus to show off his number 1 ranked mercy gameplay

New Zealand #1 in NA vs Team USA, gonna be a fun thing to watch

[toxic yacht]

you know, I was doing some mental comparisons between fl0w3r and tviq in my head and just realized something

[pine star]

TviQ sucks?

[toxic yacht]

misfits won dreamhack at the beginning of the tank meta while lw blue won IEM in the middle of it

they ran pretty much the same style

except that misfits used triple dps while lw blue used 2-2-2 dives

saebyeolbe/soon botted tracer pretty much 100% of the time

while nanohana/nevix kept flexing between genji/76

then they mixed a bit between dives and deathballs while consistently running those heroes

goes to show that dive was always strong if you actually knew what you were doing

makes me more annoyed at the winston buffs tbh

[pine star]

Yeah well we always knew that

Dive could dismantle triple tank if you execute correctly

But triple/quad tank was much easier to run

[clever portal]

People run the most efficient and easiest to practise comp

Which you can run as much as possibler

[pine star]

Yeah exactly

[clever portal]

At the time it was triple tank

[toxic yacht]

I mean, I also always knew that, but like, I just realized that the winners of 2/3 major tournaments

[clever portal]

now it's dive

[toxic yacht]

won with dives

[pine star]

During tank meta

[toxic yacht]

yup

[pine star]

Goes to show how good they were

Dive was not easy to run into op deathball

[toxic yacht]

I miss old Misfits and Rogue

well, apparently misfits hated each other by the time when they won dreamhack

and korea kind of killed rogue

[pine star]

EnVy is the only team to survive Korea

Korea broke Taimou tho

[clever portal]

Teams that hate each other win cups?

Kill 2 of the best teams of the world

[toxic yacht]

Funny thing is, taimou still loves OW, people just got the perception that he hates the game because of how bad he finds it now

it's still his favourite game after cs 1.6

[pine star]

How to dominate an esports scene:

• Invite the best teams in the opposing regions to a 3 month long tournament
• Break their minds and spirits
• Be the best
• Don't invite them anymore because they now either suck or disbanded
• ?????
• Profit

[toxic yacht]

it was koreas plan all along

lulz

revenge for 4-1'ing lunatic hai

so they invited them to apex so that they can break rogue

invited nV twice because they were salty about filthy westeners winning apex s1

so they tried to completely break them, but nV was 2stronk

[solid spear]

:)

[pine star]

😃

[toxic yacht]

lol, danteh spawncamping emongg rn

[solid spear]

damn its a shame his alt got banned 😦

[clever portal]

Oreo, reformed

[toxic yacht]

ban oreo

[solid spear]

why :<

[clever portal]

Let the rage out

You're containing yourself too much

You might explode

[solid spear]

I'm really fine

thank you for your concern 😃

[clever portal]

[toxic yacht]

the other team running ana/lucio/mercy/zen/sombra rn

what the fuck

this is top 500 by now

[solid spear]

watching dozens of pros stream this season even at the highest level ranked is a complete mess

easily the worst its ever been

[toxic yacht]

knowing that comp is garbage at every SR warms my hert

lul

[solid spear]

I think Envy and Kariv kinda nailed it

people just dont care about winning that much anymore

[clever portal]

Implying they ever did

[solid spear]

eh its worse than it used to be across the board I think

I still think part of the problem is how you get rewarded for one trcking bad heros

[toxic yacht]

it used to be good for 2 seasons

for all the issues that S1 had, at least people still cared back then

now it's just complete trash everywhere

[solid spear]

yeah Ive only played like 60 games this seasonbut theyve all been terrible evenwhen I win

[clever portal]

I've played 15

[solid spear]

its why I havent even been doing the pugs thing cuz I feel those games just end up the same way :/

[balmy wolf]

No one in here knows what those are oreo

[toxic yacht]

same, lul

I also stopped playing because they're like comp is for me

I played them because they used to be the exact opposite of that

[solid spear]

@balmy wolf well I was talking to Sojum lul so I know he knows

[clever portal]

Polo calling us normies?

[supple nymph]

TI day 1

match with $1 million prize

👀

[clever portal]

What are they

Blizzard should try giving the 1st team a call

They can pay 10 million cash

[solid spear]

nice

[quartz wren]

The 🇺🇸 Overwatch World Cup Santa Monica Qualifier schedule is out!

August 11
Group G
G1 - 🇺🇸 United States vs. New Zealand 🇳🇿
G2 - 🇹🇼 Taiwan vs. Brazil 🇧🇷
Group H
H1 - 🇬🇧 United Kingdom vs. Belgium 🇧🇪
H2 - 🇩🇪 Germany vs. Israel 🇮🇱

August 12
Group G
G3 - 🇺🇸 United States vs. Brazil 🇧🇷
G4 - 🇹🇼 Taiwan vs. New Zealand 🇳🇿
Group H
H3 - 🇬🇧 United Kingdom vs. Israel 🇮🇱
H4 - 🇩🇪 Germany vs. Belgium 🇧🇪

August 13
Group G
G5 - 🇺🇸 United States vs. Taiwan 🇹🇼
G6 - 🇧🇷 Brazil vs. New Zealand 🇳🇿
GT - [Tiebreaker matches if needed for Group G]
Group H
H5 - 🇬🇧 United Kingdom vs. Germany 🇩🇪
H6 - 🇮🇱 Israel vs. Belgium 🇧🇪
HT - [Tiebreaker matches if needed for Group H]
Round of 16
R16 - 1st Group G vs. 2nd Group H
R16 - 1st Group H vs. 2nd Group G

More info https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20944433

Posting for @blazing parrot since the bot kept removing their messages 👀

[toxic yacht]

🙏 for Veineless

[clever portal]

Don't worry

De joining Austria soon

[wintry matrix]

i wonder who will be offtank for germany

afaik 3 of them are dps and not flex

[clever portal]

Hulk is 76

[toxic yacht]

nesh can go off-tank

it's a big fucking waste of his dps talent, but that's his pool

eisfeldt is gonna bot tracer, nesh is gonna play dva and crnkz will play genji/76, more genji than soldier, I assume

nesh can then flex to 76 or widow when they need another hitscan for triple dps or something

[clever portal]

I forgot the scrim roles

But they were memeing anyway

[toxic yacht]

crnkz was genji in scrims

since we know that eisfeldt plays a super good tracer and we also know how diverse this meta is, we can pretty much predict what everyone else is playing based off of that

[balmy wolf]

Hulk over Talyz on Lucio

Nesh over NexX

[toxic yacht]

Nesh over Nevix

[solid spear]

yum

[toxic yacht]

still disappointed about canada not taking aKm

at least they made it to blizzcon tho

[wintry matrix]

i mean, who would you take for azk? s4?

[toxic yacht]

aKm plays all hitscans at a really high level and can play a bit of dva

he's also probably the best 76 in ow

smh canada almost throwing

but in all seriousness, everyone includiing mangachu agrees that they should have taken train instead of him lul

should have made a 6 man roster with train, but scrim with manga and then act like train couldn't go to poland

so they "sub in manga quickly" and use him for katowice, then they play with train during the playoffs

[wintry matrix]

wasn't the reason bc train didn't wan to go to poland?

because of his religion or something

[solid spear]

yes

[toxic yacht]

ya, he didn't want to go

[pine star]

[solid spear]

?

[pine star]

Winz

[solid spear]

naisu?'

[pine star]

Naisu desu

[sly gale]

Why is Korea so op

[solid spear]

http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/20276987/team-liquid-drop-overwatch-team-some-players-stay-org-sources-say

🕯

you know what that means

☑

[balmy wolf]

Rip me

[rapid oxide]

Expected

http://tnl.media/esportsnews/2017/8/7/franchising-riot-games-vs-activision-blizzard

[balmy wolf]

According to that

An EU team is coming

[solid spear]

LGE I believe gets the contenders spot

or Envision

[balmy wolf]

Not LGE

Fuck them

[solid spear]

uh ok

[vestal mortar]

Here is an imgur album of a few of the better photos I took at OWWC Katowice

http://imgur.com/a/3Ox3T

[balmy wolf]

Fuck Envision too

[solid spear]

but itll be one of those teams

[balmy wolf]

:/

this is bittersweet

Whyyyy

Dammit

[solid spear]

It isnt incredibly surprising

they were gonna have to replace half a team

and things were already dicey with OWL

"Additionally, the team is looking to sell its spot in Blizzard's Overwatch Contenders"

Didnt know that was even a thing

[rapid oxide]

@vestal mortar very nice pics

[vestal mortar]

Thank you. I was mostly cheering so I didn't take many pics but these are a few of the better ones

[solid spear]

I know org owns the spot but NIP just gave it to the RIP coach and Movistars gave it to the players

[rapid oxide]

its ok

[solid spear]

Guess Liquid will attempt to get a little out of it though

[rapid oxide]

you are excused also for the lack of caster pic

because they were hiding

[vestal mortar]

My signs that I got signed got a bit ruined on my way home 😭

[rapid oxide]

signed by rjh?!?

[vestal mortar]

Jehong's signature got soaked in the rain and I am trying to salvage it

[rapid oxide]

[balmy wolf]

well i now have nothing to care about in ow esports

so cya

[rapid oxide]

bb

[vestal mortar]

Time for some pints Polo

[solid spear]

https://twitter.com/McGravyOW/status/894677718817796096

Caleb McGarvey (@McGravyOW)

if blizzard is seriously gonna sell the liquid contenders spot instead of giving it to us or LGE. ive lost all faith in blizzard

Twitter

dont think the man knows Liquid the org owns the spot

[rapid oxide]

this community

from: DAE OW DED

to: OWL NEWS! OWL WILL BE SUCCESFULL

expect an owl news soon

so people will forgot about Liquid dropping the team

then another one will drop

and then repeat

[solid spear]

I love this community and I love Blizzard too 😃

[rapid oxide]

people are seriously surprised about Liquid dropping the team? lmao

3 quake players and one recently unbanned from csgo

[floral harness]

I mean NRG has 2 mid tier players atm and is in

If they wanted they could have picked a full KR roster

Like the article said, they are not interested

[smoky hinge]

I mean overwatch has only been out for a good year, and OWL hasn't come out

but everything looks really rough

[floral harness]

(And I think they do anything to save their ass in NALCS right now)

[smoky hinge]

and the postion players are left in right now whilst waiting for league to come out, they are basically screwed

I'm not honestly suprised why orgs are dropping ow

[solid spear]

A lot of players will be screwed because of OWL

[smoky hinge]

Exactly

[solid spear]

it may be for the better

[smoky hinge]

Of course, but for now, while we wait

[solid spear]

but pretending it doesnt hurt a lot of pros is dumb

[smoky hinge]

players aren't making a stable income right now

[rapid oxide]

NLF hurts a lot of players

but none is complaining

if you have talent you are getting into owl sooner or later

[spring lintel]

This drought of tournaments because of the WC

[rapid oxide]

who don't

well...

he's bad

@clever portal rachel in santa monica

hyped?

can't wait to see USA getting buttraped by Taiwan

[smoky hinge]

[clever portal]

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/Lennyngrado/status/894626771521482754

Lenny (@Lennyngrado)

@unitlostgaming It seems @PlayOverwatch is in the important things. Oh wait, no, they are focusing on the shitty league and pissing on the regular customer.

Twitter

Average casual mongoloid

Focusing on the league?

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758656495#post-5 sorry for eventual slowpoking

[supple nymph]

top issue

[clever portal]

: 🐢

[supple nymph]

eta 6 months

[clever portal]

But which teams are kill?

[solid spear]

I wont respond to him since I am reformed 😃

[clever portal]

[solid spear]

recently Liquid @clever portal

[rapid oxide]

Shitty skin and shitty game modes plus highlight system

Focusing too much on owl

Tard

[clever portal]

Bingo

[solid spear]

ye

[toxic yacht]

we bingo now bois

[solid spear]

wonder who Liquid will sell the spot too

[clever portal]

Until otherwise said

I'm assuming Blizzard replaces the team

[solid spear]

idk when NiP and Movi dropped out

they gave the spot to the roster

cuz they owned the spot

Liquid doesnt really have a roster to give it to

[clever portal]

Riders atleast is kill

[solid spear]

they are yeah

[clever portal]

They're not playing together

[solid spear]

I know org owns spot and theres no idication that Blizz will force them to give that spot to a specific team so..

[clever portal]

Who will buy lul

[toxic yacht]

also, hulk tattoo

[clever portal]

C9/CLG?

[toxic yacht]

he'll look like a fucking rapper

at this rate

lul

[solid spear]

idk man who will

C9 might be rip anyway

CLG has been quiet but they only need one player

[clever portal]

Maybe some random free agents for $50

[solid spear]

LGE is in a weird spot

Contenders as a whole is gonna be weird af

were 100% getting news from some teams in the next week

cuz some contenders rosters are in a weird spot rn

itll be interesting at the very least

[clever portal]

Maybe you could get LH2

They're free right?

[solid spear]

wacha mean?

[clever portal]

Bring LH2 to Na contenders

[solid spear]

Ah

[clever portal]

People used to complain about not having an Apex style tournament in NA

[toxic yacht]

I never saw anyone complain tbh

[clever portal]

Can't have Apex when you don't have 16 teams

[toxic yacht]

everyone seemed fine with the 500 hour streams

with 23545 matches a day

[solid spear]

I mean

[toxic yacht]

also, you can do a league without killing your western scene

[solid spear]

I still loved watching tournaments

[toxic yacht]

lul

[solid spear]

I mean people wanted LANs

but its not like we hated the tournaments we were getting

[blazing parrot]

http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/20276987/team-liquid-drop-overwatch-team-some-players-stay-org-sources-say

https://twitter.com/SurvivorOW/status/894676741503033344

Survivor: Overwatch (@SurvivorOW)

B-I-N-G-O

Twitter

[solid spear]

Ye unfortunate

although not really surprising at all

[clever portal]

[blazing parrot]

[balmy wolf]

whoa is that kvo with the late posts again

[solid spear]

I think its good for it to be posted again so people who missed the news dont have to scroll up

😃

[balmy wolf]

good for you

[blazing parrot]

im not scrolling back 1 hour

😄

[balmy wolf]

you dont need to

[toxic yacht]

ban oreo

it's possible to like

put the link

into search

and see if it was posted earlier

smh I thought that you were a programmer

[solid spear]

guys please

[toxic yacht]

do you manually fill every space in an array with 1-10 instead of using a loop?

[blazing parrot]

https://twitter.com/immortals/status/894624051250855936

Immortals (@Immortals)

Oh snap, it's @GrimRealityOW's Birthday!!! 🍰😄 https://t.co/GPPoJTWN4z

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▶ Play video

Twitter

there

real esports news

[solid spear]

thank you 🙏🏾

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq2ih7

[feral solar]

NZ is gonna destroy USA I believe in my country

:eyes:

[solid spear]

https://twitter.com/AlicusOfficial/status/893947022172200962

Alicus (@AlicusOfficial)

some of the behind the scenes OWL stuff going on atm is literally game of thrones level, but i'm ecstatic for the first season nonetheless

Twitter

Red Wedding boyz

[pine star]

wew what the hell is going on with TL spot in Contenders?

[last lantern]

They are selling it

[clever portal]

Their post claims they're selling it

[pine star]

Yeah I know

[clever portal]

Who is buying, no idea

[last lantern]

Tbh I hope teams have to play for it but not just LGE and envision cuz that would be retarded

[pine star]

I'm just wondering why is there so much outrage about it?

Everyone knew the rules from the beggining

[clever portal]

I guess people expected it would go to the next team

LGE or some shit

[supple nymph]

bl$z

[last lantern]

Idk the org owns the spot

[pine star]

Pointless expectation

They didn't suddenly change the rules

[last lantern]

That's how it would work in LCS as well

[pine star]

Yeah

Or any league of anything

[last lantern]

The envision guy whatever his name is

[clever portal]

[last lantern]

Got so fucking salty on reddit

[pine star]

McGravy?

[last lantern]

Yeah

Him

[pine star]

Salt I guess

I don't blame him

But he knew the rules

[last lantern]

Ofc anyone who said a different opinion and disagreed with him got downvoted to hell

By the hivemind

[pine star]

People forget that this is a fucking business

Orgs don't invest tons of money into teams out of their heart of gold

[clever portal]

This is a business

Pay 20 million for OWL or leave

[pine star]

Nice emote

[smoky hinge]

[pine star]

Oh shit

Slowpoke and all but

We got BINGO bois

[solid spear]

indeed

[pine star]

Reading some of the comments on Reddit gave me cerebral aids

Gotta love random Joes acting like they know how businesses work when they would bankrup a lemonade stand in the front of their house smh

[toxic yacht]

lul, I didn't actually expect to get bingo

if C9 pulls out it's time to start hyper

[solid spear]

things will get interesting soon

and Liquid isnt the only team looking to sell

[balmy wolf]

well @toxic yacht

i wonder where shadder and mesr will go

Harsha said expect some C9 news soon

so time to prepare y'all anus i guess

[toxic yacht]

[balmy wolf]

MESR and Shadder will find a team

MESR is a really good tank who can play both Rein and Winston to a high level

I know they will

while Shadder being an EU import will fetch significantly higher price than his NA counterpart

Im asking which team

well not asking

wondering

hence my comment "I wonder where shadder and mesr will go"

[solid spear]

hard to tell especially when non endemics are coming in with a clean slate

and will likely mix players

[balmy wolf]

considering that outside of the top 4 in LH, KDP, Rogue and nV

it might be a mixed roster

[pine star]

https://twitter.com/GlitchedLotus/status/894702538338979841

Yung Lotuz (@GlitchedLotus)

@AlicusOfficial @MonteCristo @AskJoshy because rainbows and sunshine power the world, fuk money

Twitter

My thoughts exactly

[solid spear]

I really dont understand the complaints

[pine star]

People are stupid

[solid spear]

sure LGE and Envision might get salty but they shouldve known this isnt new

people should understand 😃

[pine star]

If they didn't agree with the rules they shouldn't have invested time and effort trying to qualify given that something like this could happen

Simple as that

[solid spear]

This isnt even some evil rules by Blizz this is pretty standard in sports

look at the LCS

[smoky hinge]

[clever portal]

[supple nymph]

TI production value so high

[solid spear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn4pAFuQpqA&t=204s let us remember C9 before their potential death

[wintry matrix]

so is everyone from TL out?

[supple nymph]

global league

massive parts of world dont even have potential slots

[pine star]

OWL is about expansion

[solid spear]

@wintry matrix theyre complete rip

[pine star]

Expecting 120000+ slots on first season is naive

[supple nymph]

i mean on that graphic

that blizzard made

[pine star]

Ah

[supple nymph]

i mean i get africa not having any

but the rest ?

[pine star]

I thought you meant current slots

Carry on

[solid spear]

racist

[pine star]

leaves

Fuck Greenland btw

[solid spear]

be nice

[pine star]

I'm not reformed, so no

[solid spear]

U_U

[pine star]

You suck btw tbh

[solid spear]

:<

[toxic yacht]

i h8 u oreo ill noscope u

ur so gay i bet u kiss girls

[pine star]

lmfao

[toxic yacht]

lmfao

[balmy wolf]

https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti

The International 7 now

[pine star]

MOBA Overwatch?

[balmy wolf]

yeah

183K viewers

[pine star]

I'll go ahead and not watch it

[toxic yacht]

lul

[supple nymph]

also noob stream https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti_newcomer

[toxic yacht]

ohhhh, that's nice

still not gonna watch it

[pine star]

^

[supple nymph]

[solid spear]

I hope I can make you not hate me 😃

[toxic yacht]

but I must say, having a newcomer stream makes me 10 times more likely to watch it

too bad that 10 times 0 is still 0

[supple nymph]

[solid spear]

unlucky

[toxic yacht]

unlucky
are you top 500 now?

[solid spear]

I cant say I am no

[balmy wolf]

https://puu.sh/x4oi6/fcb02564da.png

60K in the pocket for just showing up and eliminated from group stage

and 120K for merely eliminated from first round of playoff

[pine star]

Still not watching it

[solid spear]

Good to hear those players are being conpensated well...clearly a lot of talent

[supple nymph]

c9 is playing and people are spamming clown 9 in chat

still not watching it

[sturdy granite]

R.I.P. liquid OW Disney dreams

[supple nymph]

in noob stream chat https://puu.sh/x4pnp/a90ec23f25.png

[clever wagon]

Reformed Oreo circlejerk continues

[solid spear]

:/

[blazing parrot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5pp2q1/lw_red_players_nanohana_flow3r_pine_admit_to_have/

TIL

[clever wagon]

That's like... ancient news?

[limber pine]

young kids do stupid things

news at 11

[clever wagon]

@blazing parrot keeps taking slowpoke to a whole new level

[blazing parrot]

6 months ago?

[clever wagon]

Lmao

[balmy wolf]

That is ancient

[blazing parrot]

bleh

[balmy wolf]

10x more slowpoke than you usual posts

[clever wagon]

West region continues to fall into its downward spiral until OWL becomes clear https://www.over.gg/5111/pacific-championship-returns-for-a-290-000-season-2

(Yes, it's 8 hours ago, but fuck it)

Apparently Libalent is...

Jasper
deartn

Not all of Japan WC team ResidentSleeper

[royal ore]

we go where the talent is

OWL, despite most teams being based in America, willhave very few Americans

[sturdy granite]

and?

[supple nymph]

it's not going to be like it is now

OWL teams are directly tied to cities

but there will be teams that dont even have anyone from the same continent as the city

well unless they try to make US teams mostly US players with a few non-US

i dont know if there are enough good US players for that though

[clever wagon]

Kruise boye meerkat vlog

[solid spear]

idk if slowpoke but uh

https://twitter.com/afreecafreecsow/status/894755635299889152

아프리카 프릭스 오버워치 (@afreecafreecsow)

#APEX 시즌4 로스터
AF Blue의 8인 로스터가 공개되었습니다.

다시 돌아온 Tydolla 정승민 선수

블루팀을 떠나 Team LW으로 Mano 김동규 선수가 이적하게 되었습니다.

새롭게 합류하고 떠나는 선수들에게 많은 응원 부탁드립니다.

Retweets

343

Twitter

LWB Mano

[balmy wolf]

Janus though

[clever portal]

Janus in OWL?

[red anvil]

put the whole AFB rooster into OWL so the rest of the world got a chance while half the team is hospitalized

[clever portal]

Now waiting for LH new roster

But they'll be fine with their current one

[red anvil]

Hire Carpe?

should be a more solid tracer then gido

And i have some slight fears for LWB and AFB stomping my LH bois this apex season

[clever portal]

I don't understand why you even get Tydolla

If they want a tracer

They could put Bunny on LH

[red anvil]

they need bunny to carry lh2 for now

but i'm not gone be surprised if he swaps

[clever portal]

Put Whoru on LH 2

[red anvil]

WhoRU on LH2 as a heal slut

[clever portal]

After a season of that

He'll never have ego issues again

[red anvil]

South Korean discipline, effect escaped korea to live out the dream as a weeb

[clever portal]

He'll fit right in with people like Oreo

[toxic yacht]

...

https://clips.twitch.tv/SucculentHeadstrongCookieANELE

[clever portal]

[toxic yacht]

btw, rip Luna, the king of NA nanoboosts

Apparently he's been cut

Even weirder shit is going on in LW atm

[clever portal]

They like running pine on Ana

I guess he's their main healer now

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/AdamMierz/status/883427699120783361

Adam M. (@AdamMierz)

Overwatch World Cup Group Stage talent team and where to watch -
https://t.co/SiEOfreDL4

Likes

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Twitter

[clever wagon]

Carpe a more solid Tracer than Gido?

@red anvil

At best Carpe's rusty from all the NA ranked and not playing in a team atm

And Gido himself is pretty solid

Not flashy but he picks up a lot of kills for LH

[red anvil]

i still think Carpes mechanical skills passes Gidos, with the LH whip he could be a god tier dps

[clever portal]

So other than the normal 5

ZP/Hex/Rachel/Reinforce/Flame

[smoky hinge]

Flame :(

[red anvil]

Flame sounded confused about how the desk would work in US

[feral solar]

did you just leave soe

you want these hands bro

[clever portal]

Soe is normal 5

[red anvil]

he just crossed fingers they wouldn't swap between him and rein between matches

[feral solar]

5/5 yeah i agree

[clever portal]

Reinforce shouldn't be there in the first place

[red anvil]

can we have 5 soes on the desk?

[clever portal]

But I guess Misfits wasn't going to win anyway

[red anvil]

i dont think reinforce did a good job at all in Poland as an analyst tho

too afraid to speak up, his accent making him a bit hard to understand, dident really sound convincing at all

[smoky hinge]

Reinforce is just awkward straight up

[red anvil]

He also talked more about how sweden would do aginst X then analyzing the matches and the plays

but that was partly the rest of the desks fault

how will sweden do against x, how will sweden counter x, etc.

[clever portal]

They just kept asking him

[smoky hinge]

eh

I prefered jamerson anyway

[clever portal]

I wonder who's doing contenders

[smoky hinge]

He has more experince with casting, and I believe reinforce has only done like two in his history

Yea

[clever portal]

Uber and Jkap need to be there

[toxic yacht]

Blizzard thinks that it's funny to split them up lol

[clever portal]

I think it was their attempt at mimicking taketv

[smoky hinge]

Blizz and eSports

[clever portal]

Having a player with the casters is really good

[smoky hinge]

Jamerson was like, top 500

[toxic yacht]

They did the same thing last year

[clever portal]

The problem is when you expect to put them on a desk

[toxic yacht]

Before TakeOver

[clever portal]

Yh, Reinforce

[toxic yacht]

Reinforce was an analyst last year too

[smoky hinge]

Yeah

[toxic yacht]

Since he wasn't on tean sweden

[clever portal]

But there was no reason to take him instead of an established analyst this year

[sullen berry]

can I get any love for seltzer in US qualifiers?

[smoky hinge]

mhm

Seltzer did mlg as well, no?

[sullen berry]

not sure

known her from Streamer Showdown, she did a funny

[clever portal]

She did MLG as well

[sullen berry]

bless ❤

[clever portal]

I might need to change my name

Sopti's not been here for a bit

[toxic yacht]

I'm gonna be completely straight, outside of Flame, OW has no good analysts yet

Monte and DoA would do a decent job, but they're too busy casting

Reinforce was frankly the only person on the desk whom I paid attention to

[clever portal]

Something that needs to be worked on

Most the time they just seem to be making memes

[toxic yacht]

The others were just memeing or whatever, Reinforce was the only one who actually knew what he was talking about

[clever portal]

I'm guessing the analysts will come with OWL

[red anvil]

goldenboy in particular

was just random

entertaining but random

[clever portal]

So, team seoul might be a mix of LH/LWB

According to gambler