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damn im kinda sick of all these comps being the same every game :/
i like it when a team basically has no shot and makes the off-meta picks for the last game
this is what happen when a pro Kr player saw NA Mercy
i think dive is less interesting
@toxic yacht say it 
just cant drop eurozone
But at this point fucking dive is as entertaining as I remember triple tank being
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Triple tank had skill 
👀
I liked clutch shatters/gravitons/hooks
Tank Meta was fried ass-cancer, I fucking hated seeing 6-8 tanks every game, I wanted to stop watching esports during that period, Ana was rectal cancer at the time, 2 slow ass comps poking and pressing Q at the same time is boring af to watch, etc
Nothing feels clutch in their meta
would rather watch dive forever
instead of going back to that
@balmy wolf it was bound to happen
@balmy wolf i really do hate being punched everywhere like a fucking ping pong ngl
Also, tank garbage is boring af to watch
lets go back to beyblade meta
I wouldn't really mind at this point lol
tfw you realized Selfless would live this meta 
At least you could play Cree in that meta
We're in the most diverse meta right now 
people just have the mei-reaper shit ingrained into their heads
like, legit, go rewatch some beyblade matches
someday my boy junkrat is gonna be the meta and you fuckers will be sorry then
itw as fucking great
Speed boosted nano boosted death blossoming Reaper is one of the scariest things to ever happen in Overwatch
beyblade meta led the rise of dva
well, misfits, rogue and fnatic perfected the beyblade
when junk will become meta is the day ill play comp till i die
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
not because im good with but hes hella fun
M'BOY IS A BLESSING TO OW
if junk becomes meta I'm deleting OW
same
MORE ROOM FOR ME
dude junk is fun
he half is already
Jiri Masalin 
That half is what's making him super rng and not as high skillcap
Finland's gift to esports
if he had two types of grenades, bouncing pills and sticky bombs, and his mine was changed into a mobility only no-damage dealer, i'd playtest that shit
he's so much fun
i have 0 regrets buying his golden gun
someday it'll be the envy of the town
i'm glad they changed the flash
although i will kind of miss how hilarious it looked when you flash her mid-blink and she just kinda ice-skated away
True
i just have too many times where i flash that charging doomfist and he still kills me
he just gets flashed when hes done with the charge
but i guess thats a latency thing tho
it stops rein charges doesn't it?
it does
maybe thats something theyll fix then, seems bad
Genji works the same way
yeah
Can't stun the dash till it's over
also, i kinda hate this map, i wish it wasn't played in the cup at least
the last point is literally 5 steps from spawn
i just hate oasis
all of its stages? or one in particular
i hate all of them except university tbh
asides from the meme potential of the car kills i have to agree
and horizon is just another shitty 2cp map
i like eichenwald for the sole reason that junk thrives there
mhm
only on attack tho
if your team moves with you , you can use the double mine to jump over the houses to get behind them
yeah it's pretty satisfying
so many small tight corners on the first point for nade bouncing
yeah
too many times where we dont have a hitscan to get the pharah
i kinda like hollywood aswell
singapore plz
3 days a week naisu
just say 
Liquid 
NRG /s
When you heard how bad Korea stomped Austria but you still decide to watch the VOD because you lowkey didn't believe it's true
Yea Korea killed them there gonna win it all unlless russia wins it
Probably gonna be korea tho
Atleast we found out 'TEAM KILL' is a spammable voice line
I mean
After seeing how they toyed around
Like...
I hope they won't beat everyone this fucking easily
It's funny to watch tho
Hopefully we see it tomorrow
Last yearv thatw as a good one but russai won it
YEa
what is the usa record
and what is russia record
Cyka blyat rush A/B tactics working
like wins and losses record
They've only played each other once
World cup is a yearly event
National teams only play at world cup
No friendlies
Alicus 
His Twitter right now
some of the behind the scenes OWL stuff going on atm is literally game of thrones level, but i'm ecstatic for the first season nonetheless


like what
""For the next year we will be taking a more organic approach to growing the competitive ecosystem, working more closely with third-party tournaments. Instead of the previous Major system, we will be selecting many third-party tournaments to directly sponsor," Valve wrote. "Additionally, players competing in these tournaments will earn Qualifying Points which will be the sole factor in determining invites to The International 2018."
Valve-sponsored tournaments will be divided into two tiers, Major and Minors. Majors must have a minimum $500,000 prize pool and will receive an additional $500,000 toward the pool from Valve, while Minors must have a minimum $150,000 prize pool and will be given an additional $150,000. Both Majors and Minors must have at least one qualifier from each primary region (NA, SA, SEA, CN, EU, and CIS), and must have "a LAN finals component to their tournament." Valve will handle scheduling of all tournaments to ensure there are no conflicts."
tfw a DOTA2 minor's minmum prize pool is 300K
that isnt oreo
Minor in dota = biggest tournament of all time in OW
he never had a real girlfriend

So mean to me
Blizz "suggesting" me to login to the Americas region from Indonesia (I've been there all this time) and telling me to relogin?
Wat's the business here
dammit @supple nymph
?
you ruined my fantasy OWL thread
Smh 2ez too impatient (NL vs Austria)
Yeah guys ehehehe I'm late again like a little bitch
PIece of shit internet
wait there's a stream on right now?which one

For some reason I thought AUS - NL will be closer
You shouldn't have
the f is this?
its those 2 guys
who are always on reddit
playing the game with weird items
probably a doomfist 1v1 with boxing gloves
getting meat grindered every push but never switching, is this soloq?
Well problem is he never committed to either
So lul
Like you tell me what can they use in horizon other than "the current meta"
who
Just switching back and forth between S76 and Widow but never commit to either
austria?
Guess who
good
2017 Overwatch World Cup | Katowice Group Stage | South Korea vs Poland - Clipped by planet_shaper
(See Vizility and the surrounding Austrians)
IM not wtaching the stram has the USA played today
Aww man xD
@blazing parrot omg ive been waiting for phil to come back!!

World best caller is back 
best main caller
Man they shouldn't have boom sticks in such a small studio
Where's the real best caller, Bill?
What the fuck was that sound barrier, SG
There was completely no need to use that
Mangachu actually plays with his keyboard on his lap 
@clever wagon are u rewatching the games lol
I'm catching up
RUSSIA VS CANADA WILL BE LIT
I'm very excited for what should be an entertaining game 


why would you sign a pubg team when the devs arent even thinking about esports yet
and there is no scene
first mover advantage
same reason why they signed IDDQD
when there was barely an OW scene
https://www.twitch.tv/lilsusie/videos/all Katowice vlogs pogguchampu
When i get my 1gpbs down and up, yall will be sorry
is it true the spectating experience is bad in this OWC ?
Yes
Sdb proceeds to get a 5k and the camera guy shows it from the prospective of the victims
Zunba even made a complaint on his Twitch
I mean, if you're watching you'd notice that for some inexplicable reason they decided to only spectate the attacking team damn near 97% of the time
And completely miss the team fight hotspots to boot
Even a completely inexperienced spectate operator would probably spectate those instead and would show both teams
The spectating is so bad that Zunba said they're having a hard time to use it to do reviews and evaluations
Yeah it's so dumb and makes no sense
the spectating is idiotic, they must have hired some fancy filmmakers who've never gamed before
My idea is to replace those "Attack point A" text at the center top with this, sorta
Therefore streamers won't need to add the A/D indicator themselves
Or that, for a payload example
With all the red/blue switches even I as someone who have been following the scene since early this year still need to look harder a few times to make sure who's a/d
They should use different colors imo
Esp in cases like when the defending team red does a pincer on the attacking team blue -> some members of team red would end up behind the payload and you might not notice at first sight that the flanking red members are defending because they're heading the same way the payload is going
Colors are already there, just need to work out a better way to use it
Since this game decided to not make it as simple as TF2 for example, where in a/d objective maps (not KotH) red is always the attacking one
iirc
Though I think if we're using the a/d indicator like I made above red/blue switches are fine as it is since the icons are already there to show which team is which
Isn't making the game better to spectate at the top of their list of priorities? I'm sure they've got some solutions in the works.
Well
I mean, camera work is something that doesn't need meddling with any in game files
And not on blizzard's job to fix
So camera work is mostly on the organizing crew
But surely fixes & additions to the in game features will also help. I know they're working on it, that was just a suggestion in which I'd like to see implemented
I mean anything to fix that top-of-the-screen interface tbh
Though if you ask me with little UI/UX knowledge I have, I personally wouldn't plan the spectating interface the way it is currently
It's downright confusing.
Imagine if you just got into the game. I'd be willing to bet that you won't figure out easily that "Attack/defend objective A" is always only directed at blue team
I know that happened to me anyway
But they probably just haven't made it to properly work for spectators and is still using the player perspective, like when you're playing you're always colored blue and the objectives are meant for you to read
well,peopel have been complaining about spectating on OW
but what things to fix?
i've seen csgo pro matches and the spectating is pretty much the same?
cmiiw
Jehong with his big ass mouse pad box
I literally just wrote a fuck ton regarding 2 most glaring flaws atm
@onyx shore
CSGO has very little cracks to complain about aside from possible camera work issues if you just see the interface designs, info provided in-game, the player models (CT vs T, painfully obvious who's planting and who's defusing) and whatnot
They've had ~20 years to work on that shit
And even then camera work can be considered partially fixed considering you can spectate yourself from in-game and pick who you want to see
and now every competitive matches
every player use different heroes (no more mirroring comps)
do you think this can reduce the confusion?
For experienced viewers esp. players who watch? Easily because we already have that to help
Though that only applies to experienced viewers who already have decent experience playing themselves
i see...
Viewers who don't, obviously not. Best example? DotA 2, but add the chaotic first person view
Well, maybe not DotA2 but rather LoL
yeah that's what i mean
in moba
everyone is using different heroes
in my imagination is,when overwatch finally have enough heroes,there will be drafting phase for every map
ban/pick
to maintain the flexibility
let's draft 9 heroes each
Map pick/bans have already been done in one of the major tier championships in 2016 iirc
But not heroes
Doubt OW will do DotA/LoL number of heroes
You'd still have to consider what kind of heroes those other 5 would be
But let's just go with the assumption each "Blizzard's designated role" (offense, defense, tank, support) have equal number of heroes I guess
Nvm
8 for 2 and 7 for 2
By that point hero drafting is more feasible I guess
@shell valley
Wait no
I thought you said something different
But then again no
Hero drafting would go against the hero switching concept
that's why you draft 9
not just 6
so every team got 9 heroes in the pool
but can only pick 6
you can switch to those 3 remaining heroes
But that will limit the strat diversity if (hopefully) Blizz managed to balance things just right that as many heroes are possible
Yeah, but using only 9 heroes
if we play best of 5
they gonna draft every start of new map
not just at the beginning
and we rotate the ban/pick order
That's better than I thought I suppose if that's the case
What a qt boye Mano
well,this is what i thought when i watch the game when triple tank was running strong
i was so confused
everyone were = rein dva hog soldier ana lucio
Unless RJH's team gets the first chance to pick, he's gonna have Ana banned every time I think
his zen is also good?
so the mind games starts even before the game starts
which one to ban
which one to let go
this is like in dota2
some teams starts banning navi dendi's pudge out of fear
but do you really want to spend that 1 ban slot on an off meta heroes
the question is,when......
I'll put my thoughts in order later
are we even gonna have 30 heroes in this game
some teams starts banning navi dendi's pudge out of fear
Dendi's pudge was respect ban few years ago, teams banned him after Dendi's succesful Pudge game. If you want example from Dota 2 - Abed's Meepo will be better cause he is out of meta and he is insta-ban against Abed's team
He's young
Talk about unexpected
Would be more surprising if he hasn't played minecraft
Daily spectator complaint post on r/cow
Still better than World Cup spectating 
https://clips.twitch.tv/BrainyElatedPhoneStinkyCheese Lmao this clip
2017 Overwatch World Cup | Katowice Group Stage | South Korea vs Poland - Clipped by Zelniq
@clever portal Zunba thread? I mean they're all legitimate complaints that you can't deny e-d also have complained about
Not really circlejerking as much as it is an actual issue
tobi casually booping 2 people off
Not sure how @overwatchleague is supposed to work but I'm not optimistic I will be given an opportunity to compete. Disappointing :(
190
No pic of Soe with someone on this server yet PunOko
maybe stop being a pubstar?
Kephrii really thought he could get in a team?
Judging from that tweet, he have indeed been thinking about it
Pls. team, build around me, we need a bastion and a torb to protect me from diving winstons
Lol
@Kephrii @overwatchleague No hate, but I think not competing on a pro team for over 8 month won't help with being picked up for the highest pro league for OW.
Yep that
not sure kephrii is smart to understand that
"If that is the case I don't know why they sent out so many scouting emails to so many people for the league, most never having competed."
so fucking retarded omg
wtf kinda bouble is he living in
"but... I can kill people in ranked"
SK match in a half hour?
Well, his fans live in the same bubble
Yes
It starts at 10pm for me so I can watch without falling asleep
Last two days I just fall asleep after the first game lol
I stayed up pretty late last night
Now you can watch 2 games 
you should have seen emongg chat when he was vs. kephrii, unkoee and akm
Yess
best widow 
Tobi vs kephrii who wins
litteraly, you got two of the best players in the world on his team and your praising kephrii?
Twitch is the place who would claim Seagull is the best player 
Vace is seagulls biggest fan
does last day start at usual time ?
Why wouln't there be 👀
idk it wasnt there when i asked question
it's like i used 6th sense
to know that games are starting earlier

haha
LET'S GO BAYBEE

some sort of a good opponent for SK
i wanna see how they do
and if they pick normal comps now
Hanzo
netherlands=poland
is russia in the same group as SK?
Yeah, playoffs
did netherlands win comfortably yesterday?
Yes, 8-0 so far
Good morning guys, lets see some SK domination
I wanna see doomfist
lmao
LET'S GO BAYBEEEEE
Back at it again with the cringe intros
This is gonna be lit
B O W L C U T S

I THOUGHT IT WAS 7 PM MY TIME AS USUAL
Where are the korean grills xd
lmfao "good hair"
J U N K R A T

"confident" You'll get rekt
map pool is trash

jehong 
RJHHHHH
he is soooo good
That's a play you'd cream over people
At this point giving away a tick is already a valid tactic
LOL
SBB PULSE BOMBBB
Anti-dive going meta 100% SoonTM
thicc sleep
jehong 
i can see tara dying rn
GOD HELP
gg
half of lh

lmfao
lol
Meticulous defense
hahah
nerf korea
no
YES
nanohana pls
LETS GO

Fuck the idea of nerfing Korea to the gutters
O R I S A
misfits had a better spamcomp smh
eZ

Dude what the fuck is this
korean stream has more viewers
Nah like four kills for NL

yeah, like 19K
3 maps left
This is gonna go fast
RIP IN GENJI
nice trans?
yes
And, i wish I could watch this second map with fucking australian internet
"Completely rejecting the current meta"
owo
welp
uhhh flow3r
I mean, I guess by principle that's how you say fuck DVa with Zarya grav
did anyone notice Flow3r going hog?
Zunba is lowkey jumping happily inside playing Zarya again
their comp is so great and i dont think many other teams can make it work atm
The fuck
No other team can unless they s scrim it properly I think
I'd assume everybody and their mothers are still diving
South Korea is literally perfect in this world cup
TOBI
lul, the observers read zunba's critisism
How is NL doing?
feelsbad pharah
Besides losing
PRO LUCIO GAMEPLAY
meh
hi
SK handily stomped NL for 2 maps without dive
lol, this is some crazy ow
zaria no chill
BabyRage HELLO BLIZZARD? 📞 BabyRage Team South Korea here 📞 BabyRage Can we stop playing Quickplay please? 📞 BabyRage
they don't really win or lose that way in this format
Hey Reinforce, that's what you're gonna be facing in Blizzcon. Nudge nudge
they pick people to "go on" from group play based on their sum of map wins
and the points are just added up for seeding>
yeah
@verbal dome the series would be a draw but that doesn't matter. group results go by total map wins
ah ok
well its only group stages too
What do you mean by only
are the games longer in the finals?
haha
my man malik
I'm a Malik main
I saved Malik in Deus Ex
Tough? I'm enjoying this S&M session every time SK is playing

ikr
flowers hero pool
"rejecting the tank meta"
X are the ones he plays?
yep
X's are the heroes he have played in WC
Tobi just landing a cheeky kill on 2ez
for what team twoeasy is playing ?
Ded with blade
Netherlands
FA
thanks
tempo releaased their ow team
lol no
STILL 0 tick
he's watching rn
they are not gonna lose this point
so he'd see twoeasy on nl
SK is so patient with their play
no blade lul
Zunba 2,3v1'ing NL outside the point a little earlier after the grav
rip netherland
russia and canada are gonna tryhard not to lose their games
those moving backgrounds are creepy
cause this is too much
wait when did flower play Roadhog?
Canada and Russia are gonna fight to the death to avoid #2 of their group after watching this match
last seconds of nepal
just for like 30 sec
they knew this from the start
LUL
rubikon said that in yesterday's interview as well
hahaha
Jeez SK is just going full fanservice this qualifier
LOLOLOLOL
Junkrat, deathball comp, Hanzo, Zarya... and now Horizon low gravity zone
LMFAO
Dive still isn't out yet
imagine NL upsetting NK
SK still playing around
RU - CA will be a throwfest
lol
nano waste
mano on monkey now
they're tryharding
NL made them tryhard bois
umm, SK
so?
Idk what to make of that at this point
no reason why I shouldn't mention it
SK 
vizility threw that
i think tahts it

o shit
Wow
phew
wew
NL pls
ez
i was sure they lost that fight
Yeah
and then this
wtf was that
hard throw
It sure felt like it
It'll be so hard to gain some momentum after what just happened
Nothing more soul crushing than that
Just dropping in to make sure that it's the same time as yesterday?
because playoffs are today too
Wtf
so they start early
NL vs SK already at final map in 45 minutes LOL
last map of nl - sk
First match of the day
eh
nice awareness
I mean
You might want to watch it yourself later

This is even too good to tell
Ffs
Fuck it
I will watch rus v can
Austria vs poland is gonna be the most boring thing ever
This is over anyways 
RJH missed a dart 
is rus vs can next?
RJH missing a dart because he already killed the target 
Jeez SBB
This match is legit depressing
i feel bad
man...
i dont think you can blame them
The mercy would get hacked instantly and destroyed, I'm pretty sure
it's kind of hard to heal people when you have mano, fl0w3r and saebyeolbe on your ass 24/7
mercy would be even more worthless
^
I mean
only need to throw a healing orb on viz
You're telling them to go Pharmercy?

yes, throw orb and instantly get killed
once in the game
that's not how easy it is
LMAO Monte
most times camera was on vizility he was not naded when he was killed
Playing is a strong term
yeah, he was naded a ton
They're kinda just getting trolled
oh
SK plays dive by giving at least 2 people focusing 1 opponent at once and work their way quickly
poor guys
nice 2300 sr comp
theyre were doing real good
That's straight fuck you to orb
but i mean its sk
Or any kind of pocketing
ggwp
i was hoping for atleast 1 map
gg
at least it was fast
well these games are thrilling
Dude
What a feelsgood game right there
i wish i could just fast forward
What the fuck is this
they almost pulled a draw on horizon
Now let me go get the shower curtain real quick REEEEEEEEEE
idk man
That 4-0 excitement
what's surprising about it tho
they are like asleep
i think all games were less than 1h so far
gg from KR
sk is great but when you know youre in a group with them why are you trying
At least that attack Orisa on King's Row was pretty funny?
God I wonder how awkward this greeting is
if SK weren't here things would be more competitive FeelsBadMan
wait can nl still get to blizzcon?
LOL BM
rofl
ha HA
o h b o y
2 groups, #1 faces #2 of each other
LOL
That's the decider of groups
O H B O Y
Malik is so spazzy haha
imma get a snack while all this flame is happening
I love malik
ewmfoejwnfwijewije
MY MAIN MAN
ruthless
Jamerson is a champ
What is the next match of south korea?
why even have them play
clipped it because I didn't initially hear it
2017 Overwatch World Cup | Katowice Group Stage | Poland vs Austria - Clipped by Thesojum
Nice
12-0 fucking sigh

RJH missed 1 dart I'm pretty sure he's trash?
I mean Korean Genji probaby give him harder time dealing with and some
God
Skipping
POL x AUS cant wait to see /s
yeah im just gonna watch russia - canada and nl
We are south korea 
Welp, in the meantime, I'll download some manga and play OW
magna
I'd rather hear golden boy go on about T mobile than watching Pol vs Austria
Lmao
thats some feelsbad
Some manga and KonoSuba LN
I don't care about being a weeb at this point, it's just to assert that I just want to watch CA vs RUS + group finals
Overweeb 
weeb
Is Blizzard planning to introduce market to OW?
why do they always zoom in on their faces
p r o d u c t i o n v a l u e
gotta show those glistening pimples
@lilac barn lolll bm
yaaaaay
"ana bbong" - ryujehong
that is austria capping first point
Whytro did u watch the murder
waiting room for can vs rus tbh
ez poland
Camera work improving?
lol, audience is like in a football game 😄
go poland
damn
Throw that shit on ebay 💸
"To e-d"

If that was there lul
But no, then again
Can't let Korean boyes know of this circlejerk
They're too good for it
gg kabaji
Also, Jehong staying with the hangul
@vestal mortar isn't your name Tara? why are all the autographs "to tada" lol?
4-0 ?
who even uses widow in comp
Iki throwing ult builds as usual ResidentSleeper
I mean Taimou does
If you're a world class hitscan why not lul
When the time and place are right
But that's not the case for Austria
Iki channeling his inner Kephrii
Like this is the third day
What's the point of switching that much
the rez tho
You're not even committing to any actual ult combo or management
wasnt austria the team yesterday that had a torb/orisa combo in hollywood
wow they got cute signatures lol
Is aus v poland over?
I am so hyped for the next match
what are the matches today?
SK is gone play against playoffs
Lol, how can they even try to deal with the Pharmercy if Iki keeps fucking switching hitscans back and forth and waste any and all ult %'s
against?
SK will play group finals against Group F #2
rip canada
Lets fucking go
Whichever lost Canada vs Russia















