They actually do it on purpose
#esports-discussion
pine star
blazing parrot
and other abilites
toxic yacht
koreans specifcally reserve pulse bomb for dva
pine star
Some teams at least
clever portal
Shatter DVa, and visor 
wintry matrix
also remember that doomfist is coming, and dva can't do shit about it
pine star
Let us hope Doomfist shakes the meta big time
I actually think Blizzard takes to much fucking time to shake the meta
balmy wolf
Sombra 
pine star
Then again, they balance shit around casuals, so
wintry matrix
i think people have problems with dva, the same way we have with dive in general, is just that things accidentally came this way
balmy wolf
Jeff "I think the game is balanced" Kaplan
remember, people wished for dive to be prevalent
wintry matrix
"balance around casuals" 
balmy wolf
and now they got what they wanted
pine star
I don't want ANYTHING to be prevalent
blazing parrot
i would say winston is more cancer than dva in dive
pine star
I just want more than 8 heroes in my pro matches ffs
blazing parrot
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
blazing parrot
especially for supports
solid spear
Winston is easily more cancer
balmy wolf
I remember the constant whining about triple tanks. And now people are like "I want my tanks back"
blazing parrot
;-;
toxic yacht
I don't give a shit, lol
blazing parrot
you miss things only when its gone
toxic yacht
dives for days
toxic yacht
never want to see 8 tanks again
clever portal
Triple tank 
pine star
5 tanks meta 
clever portal
Quad tank was an NA meme
toxic yacht
first point
clever portal
Not a serious comp
toxic yacht
for a short time
pine star
I member
toxic yacht
the fact that they even thought that it was viable
lol, I'd rather watch dive every day than go back to that fucking trash
I don't even dislike dive, so lul
clever portal
Anyone remember Hammers, the 'best' quad tank team
pine star
I just want more than one fucking comp viable
wintry matrix
when Super was the star of the team
toxic yacht
Super, the teabagging rein
balmy wolf
LG Evil almost got released, mind you
but if the leak is correct
they are confident about the next patch
good fucking luck though
clever portal
They aren't even contenders though
balmy wolf
which is the head scratching part, unless LG think they can flip their mid tier roster to Kraft
clever portal
But apparently some people believe new patch will mean Rein Zarya on some maps
clever portal
But I remember when Lucio changes were coming
Winz was on podcast claiming quad tank would be new meta
toxic yacht
LGL actually ran quad tank at times
quad tank was somewhat functional
it's just that dives were better
he wasn't completely wrong tho
solid spear
People are gonna force DF when hes out I think
toxic yacht
not even somewhat
quad tank works again
just much harder
than before
also, dives will destroy you, so why do it?
it's also much more niche than before
balmy wolf
i'm not particularly convinced that with the new patch tanks are going to experience a resurgence. Guess what? Sombra cucked the shit out of Doomfist
and like half of the cast as well
solid spear
Worst part about dive is that it's existence makes so many heros terrible so you don't even get those few teams that'll play something different
Winston/D.Va is oppresive af to half the cast
pine star
Triple tank dive 
clever portal
Winston, DVa, Zarya 
pine star
I actually screamed when Japan ran Zarya last night lol
solid spear
Triple tank was very reliant on Hog doing damage I dont think itll ever be that good with Hog being this bad even next patch
I was here I just wasn't talking
clever portal
Real oreo only has meme names 
balmy wolf
triple tank relied on Zarya a lot. But you can compensate for damage via Reaper
so it is not that bad of a deal
but you need to either burst down the Ana or the Zarya first
solid spear
I think Zarya/D.Va/Rein/Reaper is a pretty shitty comp honestly
balmy wolf
it is a very counter dive comp
"please, feel free to jump into our backline where our Reaper is waiting"
and they can actually push when needed via Zarya's energy
the longer the fight drag out, the better it is due to superior sustain + Zarya being on high charge
so either you need to get rid of the Ana or the Zarya first
Twitter
pine star
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pine star
IDDQD hasn't performed good for like, what? 9 months?
rapid oxide
And both didn't know Num will get kicked, imo they will get kicked too soon
rapid oxide
Pick an established team, even tier 2 like Arc6
You won't win prob but at least you are not a living memes
pine star
I mean
With proper infraestructure, support, coaching and stuff
A tier 2 team like Arc6 can actually contend for a spot in the sweet tier 1 heaven
SO START THROWING MONEY AT PEOPLE KRAFT
YOU FUCK
clever portal
There's people who claim Seagull is a good player even though he hasn't performed for ages here ๐
solid spear
Idk about picking up Arc6
rapid oxide
@balmy wolf same for seagull
solid spear
If Im Kraft or Wilbon Im waiting til after Contenders to finalize my roster
unless I plan to get NV Rogue
balmy wolf
*Wilpont
solid spear
my b
clever portal
Yeah, wait to see who out of FNRGFE/Kungarna performs
Btw, wasn't Kungarna signed
No news yet?
pine star
Nothing
solid spear
allegedly
pine star
They probably already got dropped 
rapid oxide
Feel NE Kungarna 
solid spear
xQc said he knew who were signed by and it wasnt an OWL org
at least not as of now
so
NRG needs subs
if theyre keeping Harb
rapid oxide
NRG doesn't need subs
clever portal
rapid oxide
Need a new team
clever portal
First they need 6 people
balmy wolf
if Kraft sign 
, they are dumb as fuck
clever portal
They're getting ready for OWL 1v1
solid spear
well then they wouldnt be keeping Harb
rapid oxide
Fuck id and harb tbh
solid spear
which is what I just said
balmy wolf
tbf we knew that they are bringing 2 KRs in
but that still left the roster with 2 more slots
solid spear
Harb said on stream this morning
that theyre close to finalizing a couple people
so theres that
clever portal
Could be a tank now
balmy wolf
and also Sleepy from what I heard that is already in 
as well
so that's 5
only one more
solid spear
Im not 100% sure on Sleepy Reign
clever portal
I'm guessing they made the no tryout offer to Saya could have been them
solid spear
but hes most likely
rapid oxide
can't wait next NRG fail tho
balmy wolf
@solid spear i got reliable source
clever portal
๐
rapid oxide
lul
solid spear
I did hear he was doing well in their tryouts or whatever and was most likely
clever portal
Who is Sleepy
solid spear
Im pretty sure he greatly outperformed b1am and Aythen
clever portal
And why are they signing him instead of the countless free agents
rapid oxide
rapid oxide
TSM b1am 
pine star
TSM
balmy wolf
Aythen and b1am are kind of one trick Ana
balmy wolf
TSM needs 10 mils for NA LCS slot first, and from what I heard Reginald needed it more
rapid oxide
NALCS 
pine star
Gotcha Wolf 
rapid oxide
Why buy a spot to be mediocre worldwide 
rapid oxide
Except in NA
solid spear
@balmy wolf Im kinda calling BS on the whole shot calling thing with Num honestly
balmy wolf
mind you, 
and TSM are the only two orgs I know that haven't got VC invested in yet
so they are not loaded on the cash front
solid spear
I think its just PR..."I was cut because I was not the right fit as opposed to they cut me cuz they want a better tank"
cuz if theyre bringing in Gamsu or some Korean
hes not gonna shotcall
balmy wolf
of course, the team might overhaul its shotcalling structure too
rapid oxide
Gamsu 
balmy wolf
I remember when there was news that Numlocked was going to
people in r/compow was elated at the prospect of Numlocked shotcall
and then I rewatch OW Open where Dignitas flunked out of group stage
so my reaction was "ok??"
rapid oxide
Later got shit talkef
solid spear
Is there any reason not believe Carpe stuff at this point?
clever portal
@rapid oxide I was saying bye to the teams
rapid oxide
He want to partecipate into owl
rapid oxide
clever portal
He's going to get a large offer one day
balmy wolf
i'll be looking forward to NRG Bandwagonners just jump after Seagull
but anyone that try to build around Seagull
is going to be waking up to a nightmare
balmy wolf
the old roster and the two roster overhaul was building around him
and both crashed with no survivors
so you know, history is a cycle etc etc
clever portal
He claimed at least the world cup changes, he had no say in
He didn't even know till they happened
balmy wolf
"let's totally overhaul our roster without letting our star player know"
clever portal
The whole team is just bs
Numlocked is just cut with no reason
Is that how you want your other players to live?
Live in fear of being cut without reason on any day?
balmy wolf
i mean
they hired Derrick "I ran TSM OW to the ground" Truong
do you expect anything else coming out of them?
solid spear
I dont think you should be trying to build your team around Seagull
luckily he has pretty good pool so you dont necessarily have to
balmy wolf
won't stop some people from doing so
despite history has told us that he is not a world class DPS
but I guess you can always put wool over people's eyes by noobstomping the NA cesspool
wintry matrix
at this point you have to wonder what the hell is keeping Harb and ID there outside of contracts
they have to have at least some idea of how much of a shitshow NRG is
even if they're beeing paid a fuckton, it won't do good for your career long-term
solid spear
well even though this is probably contrary to the opinion of many people here theyre not shit players
wintry matrix
unless they don't give a fuck and plan to go Paladins after
i believe too that NRG can make anyone look horrible
balmy wolf
i mean
they got money
from the salary
meanwhile the teamhouse is kind of shite
since Harbleu moved out for privacy
so technically IDDQD and Seamoose got the house all for themselves
so 
wintry matrix
that's what i'm saying, are they in just for the short-term gain of money? while losing prestige
balmy wolf
their contract is probably hefty
and right now there's really no org that need a FA
are all solid on their roster
is a maybe but why would they want some inferior NA DPS when they can use their KR contacts to get somebody from the East?
wintry matrix
i really hope is only the contracts jkeeping them there
balmy wolf
they probably has a decent amount of buyouts
IDDQD's buyouts was 100K
Harb was 50K
so you know, if they even have the same amount of buyout as their old contracts
no team will ever fucking touch them
Want a good hitscan? AKTM, Carpe, etc etc
superior skill and also cheaper
wintry matrix
you barely knew ATKM and already saying he's superior to id
not that i'm a ID fan
but yeah, they're better options for now because of buyouts
balmy wolf
I mean you can't deny with his performance in the WC vs who's who in pro OW
vs IDDQD "my last good performance was a year ago"
wintry matrix
i already said something about this, it's kinda similar to China "they showed they have skill, but it still unclear how they really compare to others"
and ID, well, is taking his NRG prison time
balmy wolf
China got an easy group though
Eileen just dunked on luminary oppositions such as Romania, HK and Norway
that wasnt AKTM and Ta1yo styled over HarryHook and Taimou
wintry matrix
i mean, Japan picked vietnam, a very weak Spain and an inconsistent Filand
ofc, not as easy, but not exactly world class
balmy wolf
on paper still stronger than Romania/HK/Norway
balmy wolf
if Mickie can got his breakout by merely being good in WC
these JP guys can certainly get their moment
espeically once more orgs join
and even a potential Tokyo/Osaka OWL spot
supple nymph
Twitter
wintry matrix
rip
balmy wolf
where's that bingo pic?
wintry matrix
btw, where novx is now?
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix no clue
is about as ripperoni as it possibly be. But good luck with Rogue/IMT disbanding their roster to make a bungo though
prisma void
Tempo crossed off?
https://twitter.com/DreamKazper/status/889234667739652097
Twitter
prisma void
RIP, TiG is a pretty good Genji imo
balmy wolf
their failure at the group stage of OW Contenders was an omen of things to come
probably should cross out 
too actually
they are just existing based on principle
prisma void
Yeah, afaik Luddee already tries out in other teams
wintry matrix
TL tho 
balmy wolf
Default win, btw
which means that Tempo Storm just didn't even play
That happens a lot in open div
like
a lot a lot
why play in Open League when your team can get in Tier 2 without it 
supple nymph
well, they cant really do that anymore with no tournaments
balmy wolf
crushing a t2 team in scrims makes you t2 right 
supple nymph
dont they have to do open division?
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf nah, you need to get a bunch of good weeklies finishes in order to get the T2 tag
that'd be boring as hell
playing in open div is already killing me
8 weeks not including playoffs
prisma void
"-Team must have a stable core of 4 members over the past month" NRG isn't T2 FeelsBad
balmy wolf
mind you, my team got tier 2 tag after a month of nonstop scrimming, coaching and doing tournament. 8 weeks of 8 BO7 is nothing tbh
considering that weekly tournaments usually has higher prize pool, tougher oppositions, and rougher conditions
good luck playing RO32 BO1
and then with it for another round or two before finally you can get BO3
prisma void
What server is that screenshot from btw?
clever portal
Polo gets 4-0 ez wins
balmy wolf
https://twitter.com/Cosi_OW/status/889260052233818116 and is truly RIP
Twitter
we havnet dropped a map so far
but like
every team is trash
yeah
a lot of team just literally formed and play in the weekend
the highest team we've played so far is like
no scrim, no vod review, no coaching, etc etc
4k avg maybe
my team can probably win this pretty easily
all the good teams have dropped out but iceblock
balmy wolf
competitive teams has better things to do rather than do Open League
prisma void
WC for example
balmy wolf
especially if you considering that Open League this season actually doesn't give you a road to Contenders
wintry matrix
i didn't knew tier2 literally had objective requirements, interesting
balmy wolf
well we're not a serious team really
we wanted to do contenders
but one of our guys had exams
I got the tag and got revoked in the same day because I was merely put an ad to get more coaching works
T2 allows you to get top tier competitive recruiment channel and T2 scrims
and more often than not T1 teams ask for T2 teams to try out shits etc etc
and top tier competitive = top 50 players
so it does gives you quite a lot more options
clever portal
Kephrii is top 50 
supple nymph
balmy wolf
well, at least there's WC to distract everyone from the fact that is dead
next week is APEX Final though
rooting for my boyz 
prisma void
Is WHORU back by then?
balmy wolf
as far as the rumors mill goes he is back in the team house. Whether or not he will be playing vs , no clue
solid spear
Birdring and Rascal 
prisma void
Even if he is I'm not sure he's gonna play because Soldier/Tracer dive is way stronger, my bois LH gonna take it
I think KDP doesn't have much stamina as a team like RunAway last season
btw why does discord send messages 5 secs after i write them
prisma void
They won't, shadder just got to the US
balmy wolf
not a chance in hell
they are actually one of the few orgs that can afford an OWL spot
and also the fact that they stuck with the roster so long, imported Shadder/Fury and get Hulk as coach
means that they are committed to OW
prisma void
That's really good to hear
I like that some orgs (IMT, liquid) commit to OW now that OWL is almost there
prisma void
they wont thats whats awesome
they werent even tier 1 and probably were negotiating back then
balmy wolf
who would have thought import some mid tier KR players make you instant NA top dog
supple nymph
clever portal
prisma void
Didn't work for C9 
clever portal
Possibly left side?
Toronto wouldn't be shocking
c9 maybe they couldn't get a deal
And Rogue gets bought out
prisma void
I think that C9 will get a spot, at least I hope so
prisma void
He said he doesn't know anything, so there is no reason to speculate
๐
solid spear
Tempo had some nice players
crazy to me how Sodipop...knowing what they were a year ago is now top 3 NA with an OWL spot
balmy wolf
yeah with a third of the roster going into FA
solid spear
how many teams have more than 4 of the same players they did a year ago lol
supple nymph
meme reddit
balmy wolf
uh, Rogue?
prisma void
EnVy has chips, taimou, cocco and harry right?
wintry matrix
all of them traded on or two at least tho
prisma void
Rogue wasn't together for a year though, but pretty close
Reunited/eUnited also got changed up quite a bit, I think they still have 3
supple nymph
could there be a correlation between being a good team and not replacing players all the time? 
balmy wolf
Rogue still has the core of Winz, Unkoe, AKM and Knoxxx. eUnited still retains Vallutaja, Unfixed, Kruise, and Morte. Lunatic Hai still has Tobi, Miro, Esca and RJH
Envy also still has HarryHook, Taimou, Cocco and Chipshajen
who would have thought T1 roster are such world class talents that they don't need to import shits to mess up their core
wintry matrix
if we're going for core, very few teams traded it
like, i don't think IMT's core was nomy and aythen
balmy wolf
the old Sodipop has them
so they are technically the core
Hyped might be the next one getting the boot with how was better vs when Envy was on off tank though
prisma void
Yeah Envy is pretty good on DVa, his Tracer is also good from what I've heard
wintry matrix
i thought you meant core as in the player members that team build around it
or rather, the "protagonists" of the team, or some other term i forgot
solid spear
@balmy wolf Eunited , Rogue and Envy have all replaced 2 players in the last year
balmy wolf
solid spear
which is what I said
balmy wolf
flamecord updating my bingo card
I still think row 4 is most likely
and I answered "at least 4"
solid spear
I said more than 4
wintry matrix
but IMT is the same of them, Jer quit sodipop, and of all IMT existence only Aythen and Nomy were dropped
clever portal
Yeah, eUnited likely
solid spear
TiG, Twoeasy, Dream, BeastHalo and Cosi are all good guys
balmy wolf
by the way, no roster in those T1 list have an NA roster
and is too soon with their roster to say anything due to my suspicions that Hyped might get drop
solid spear
I dont think theyll dropped Hyped
remember they brought in 3 Koreans
with the intention of having a 7 man roster
I still think they want a 7 man roster
balmy wolf
It's probably better to have an 8 man roster going forward tbh
balmy wolf
you never know
i usually tends to a more pessimistic side anyway
and for most of the time my hunch are right
solid spear
BeastHalo instantly becomes one of the better main tank options on the market for any teams in need of one, Cosi the same for flex supports
wintry matrix
i think if IMT drops Hyped it would be the same with NV and Lui
solid spear
Lui also wanted to go
clever portal
Lui dropped again 
wintry matrix
oh, didn't knew that
solid spear
I dont think Hyped wants to leave IMT the team hes been playing with for over a year that has an OWL spot when theres no obvious OWL team thatd pick him up to def start
And I think IMT would prefer the 7 man roster
wintry matrix
i was more referencing how NV dropping Lui prematurely, but i didn't knew he wanted to go
like, Envy only played one game, and it wasn't like night and day to Hyped
solid spear
yeah think he will
gotta wonder if everyones favorite meme team will look at Cosi and/or Beasthalo with them free
so Cosi can steal Sleepys job again lul
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix he played 4 maps and his presence brought back from getting swept
wintry matrix
he played better than Hyped on that day, but i'd it was more IMT as whole stepping up
balmy wolf
his D.va play was more consequential than you might think
literally the only difference between Soon feasting on the support and not
clever portal
supple nymph
balmy wolf
is the higher tier scene all low edpi, or are there any high edpi players?
clever portal
Anyone else remember the other rumor?
supple nymph
surefour going to nv?
balmy wolf
getting a East Coast spot?
clever portal
That C9 were finding out about their future next week
balmy wolf
it was kind of expected tbh
shoved like shitload of money and all it get is a Contenders flunk out
solid spear
actually this reminds me
during Harbs stream this morning he said
no ones seen C9 scrim in a while
balmy wolf
still won't make the board hitting bingo tho
solid spear
granted all non Contenders NA teams are basically on hiatus
since theres nothing really
balmy wolf
yeah
time for someone who need a coach to poach B1shop though
I play Ana with 1600 dpi by 4 sens, and I feel like a freek cuz Ryujehong uses like 1600 x 1.16
solid spear
I wont jump the gun on C9 cuz like could be rebuilding rather than disbanding and we should wait for actual news
balmy wolf
but idk, my arm hates aiming. my wrist wants to do the aiming :(
1600x4 is mid high but nothing really out of the ordinary
and wrist aiming is fine tbh
people overrated the arm aiming thing
1600x4 is around 20 cm/360
and it is fine if you are wrist aiming
solid spear
Cool
And if C9 does disband a few guys will definitely be sought after...both supports both the Koreans too
solid spear
S4 I didnt say cuz like idk what's up with him
wintry matrix
:slowpoke:
wintry matrix
oh, i'm dunk, num only said he wasn't told anything
balmy wolf
Derrick "I ran TSM OW into the ground" Truong is about to be Derrick "I just also ran NRG OW into the ground and waste 20 millions" Truong as well
Classic TSM Mangagement
wintry matrix
*continued to ran
balmy wolf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6oz49r/numlocked_parts_ways_with_nrg/dklee3a/
wintry matrix
i can't read confurmed
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf thx for your thoughts!
I've been worried I might be bottlenecking myself with high edpi, but it just feels so much better for me than low edpi
i might just bump my DPI up to wrist again tbh
so yeah
just go with what you comfortable with
CSGO
dry sail
THE KING IS BACK
clever wagon
What the fuck lmao
royal ore
he's unbanned?
balmy wolf
@clever wagon the same owner who think that splurge 20 millions on an 
spot without a working roster is good
clever wagon
I guess that's the wrong thing to ask to begin with eh
clever wagon
What no lol
More like
"I fucked TSM OW over" guy and "I bought a fucking 20mil spot without a working roster" guy joining forces
wintry matrix
the second part is kinda eh because most spot owner didn't announce a team yet
balmy wolf
mind you
the other team was just joined
so that is understandable
unlike and their eternal rebuilding adventure
clever wagon
clever wagon
That comment thread tho
Uber and JKap know their shit around the fans
The JP team poster
Hoo?
balmy wolf
he plays Doom
wintry matrix
also Wolfenstein
balmy wolf
limber pine
how close can I get to a witchhunt without it actually being a witchhunt
balmy wolf
still better than that one time China decided to invade the subreddit because of reasons
and somehow the mods decided to let that shit fly when it was clearly trying to witch hunt Rogue
wintry matrix
not exactly witch-hunt tho i get your point
balmy wolf
it was
literally a post from NGA where some random text accusing Rogue of being twats
wintry matrix
i guess
balmy wolf
then it was posting in r/compow as if it is surefire proof that Rogue was being twats
so you know.
and of course the following Chinese invasion didn't help either
wintry matrix
Nexus cup in a few hours
also this: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Bigfile_Overwatch_Battleroyal with some apex teams
clever wagon
Oh right the Battleroyal
solid spear
that then apex, katowice, LA, Contenders
and that small EU tourney that was announced
is pretty much all we know about for the next 2 months
I wish Apex wasnt so slow
clever wagon
Small EU? Assembly you mean
solid spear
ye the Summer Assembly by Asus
wintry matrix
BGH is playing today btw
solid spear
against?
wintry matrix
KEEP, another BR team
solid spear
I know of them ye
wintry matrix
it's the finals of the SA circuit
clever wagon
Jake-Super-S4-Rawkus PUBG stream 
wary falcon
RA - MY are playing in 50m
rapid oxide
PUBG 
clever portal
Spam?
jade swallow
last night's widows plays were so dope
clever portal
Roasted by his mom
red anvil
clever wagon
Korea definitely knows fanservice
Triple tank Toblerone 
O nvm
Aaagh this is what I hate about Korea stream
It's either letterboxed whatever-p30 for in-game footage or shit tier bitrate
wary falcon
hope they will pick junkrat on WC
clever portal
red anvil
Hanzo, Widow, Junkrat, Torb, Symmetra, bastion WC pls
clever wagon
Better off keeping 720p60 but with actually decent bitrate that doesn't cause as much pixellation FailFish
clever wagon
I saw that thread
wary falcon
Cantus waiting room
clever wagon
I mean
She doesn't see pro play much
Koreans rarely even play her in public ranked, at least less than other regions
That's some 
stuff
Oh her eit is
SK trying to run Rein into KDU dive
And again, Jehong won a 1v1 against KDU's Genji
Or at least survived long enough to land another bionade and kill the Genji since it's off-cam
red anvil
even with rein there winning fights
clever wagon
Don't let the normies know about this so they won't say "Rein is still viable since SK ran it in their showmatch"
red anvil
full hold uncia with rein and juinkrat
Junkrat is meta - SK won against uncia with it
red anvil
that timing
clever wagon
It wasn't as noticeable live but 2-3times playing it you can definitely see SBB saw the shield vanishing and took the shot
0.5x speed is actually beautiful and perfectly shows his reaction time haha
rough escarp
when do the next groups play?
clever wagon
Friday
All qualifiers are held on weekends
Groups E & F, Katowice q's
Wait wait
clever wagon
Chill the fuck out you cunt
balmy wolf
lulz
no ticket for Burbank though 
3 weeks and no ticket for the American qualifier
I want to see 
and 
fuck ๐บ๐ธ over
rough escarp
thats my boi
solid spear
rip
toxic yacht
OW isn't worth playing anymore
tight vault
wary falcon
Ibuypower unbanned on ESL. Azk to leave OW?
toxic yacht
lol
really early guys
Steel can now stop clenching his ass, I guess lawl
dunno if AZK is gonna wanna leave
let's first see how TL goes
if liquid ends up going well I doubt that he'd just drop everything and try to rebuild in another already established esport where everything could potentially go to shit for him
Rapha could safely go because he's still under Liquid + QC has no scene yet, gonna be much harder for AZK, especially because Liquid already has a cs roster and isn't just gonna kick them out or some shit
clever portal
I doubt the plan would be literally transfer to cs team
pine star
@toxic yacht I unfollowed Art1er as soon as I saw that tweet lmao
toxic yacht
lmao I'm probably also gonna do i
I meant that leaving liquid and finding a new team
is much less safe
than just staying with TL as long as they aren't dropped
pine star
I was like
lol k den, unfollowed
This was expected tbh
This is just curation process at this point
The ones that grind and stick around will probably be successful
If OWL succeeds that is
rapid oxide
Aka "game os shit because i get no contract because im a mid tier dps and, instead of improving i spent my day making shitty ow memes"
Twitter doesn't allow too much letters tho
pine star
I followed him because some of his memes are spicy and funny
But he's completely irrelevant tbh
rapid oxide
Recent were shit tbh
tight vault
hey guys jeff here from the overwatch team and today we are gonna nerf south korea
pine star
/r/ow memes ๐ซ
rapid oxide
Just straight BabyRage
pine star
Yeah ^
rapid oxide
And he still wonder becaude he's not in a team
Who want a BabyRage?
You can do it if you are talented
But you aren't
Twitter
solid spear
Valve themselves still needa repeal bans if any team is gonna touch em anyway so its kinda irrelevant still no?
rapid oxide
pine star
@solid spear join us?
solid spear
I don't care to do it without me
pine star
You fuck
clever wagon
https://twitter.com/ta1yo_ow/status/889136125247275009 5 seconds looking at this is more worth it
rapid oxide
Oreofe Mosaku likes your reply 
clever wagon
Art1er or whoever the fuck that was can buzz off
solid spear
happy Taimou feelsgoodman
clever portal
Happymou taimouGACHI
pine star
Has he even played at anything after the shit show that was last year Germany WC team?
solid spear
I dont think so
solid spear
he was a beast on Creation idk what happened to him
toxic yacht
just because he's a pro it doesn't mean that he's not allowed to whine
people in this channel bitch and moan to a much more extreme degree
clever wagon
I mean weren't we fine with Taimou whining
wintry matrix
i though too that was bit overkill
clever wagon
balmy wolf
@rapid oxide do me a favor
ask Ta1yo on twitter whether or not Team Japan would be open for an AMA in r/compow
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq286o lulz, DSPStanky quit OW
solid spear
yeah
balmy wolf
and nothing of value was loss.
world's best Lucio
can't even get past T2 Gatekeeper status
solid spear
well he has his fans so might disappoint some people, could come back later though possibly
balmy wolf
Literally everyone was high from last week's Sydney qualifier and now it is back to the doom and gloom with the OW again
fuckin' bipolar
solid spear
not really they arent all the same people
wintry matrix
i mean, people quitting is nothing new
balmy wolf
also anyone here has twitter? Do me a favor and ask Ta1yo on twitter if he and his team is willing to do an AMA in r/compow
@wintry matrix the circle jerk will latch on to that thread and start the jerking
wintry matrix
https://twitter.com/ta1yo_ow this dude right?
Twitter
solid spear
yeah
wintry matrix
eh, it always happens with anything
balmy wolf
yeaH @wintry matrix
solid spear
I mean I already asked earlier its ok
wintry matrix
k then
balmy wolf
never hurt to ask again tbh
even though they might already on their way back home
remember when I said AZK might be the one to go from ?
that might actually happen.
solid spear
he needs to get unbanned by more than the ESL for orgs to actually pick him up
balmy wolf
other people will follow suit
the pertinent question is whether Valve will also follow suit
balmy wolf
yeah
personally AZK can be upgrade with the amount of FA we have atm
Logix, TwoEasy, Ta1yo, AKTM, etc etc
solid spear
Sinatraa too, Carpe if hes not locked down by NRG, Dafran if youre looking to replace him post contenders, Danteh probs available, Retzi isnt dead
theyd find someone I dont think theyd be worried
balmy wolf
6 weeks of Contenders
and now they has roughly 3 weeks before Contenders
so AZK needs to make his choice clear
SK used it in a show match
guyz, Junkrat is underrated
solid spear
AZK is most likely playing with them in Contenders regardless
wintry matrix
memes aside: https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6p86b9/live_team_south_korea_vs_kongdoo_uncia_scrim/dkndfu4/
also i'm trying to watch ex-Movi coach video, but i can barely understand him
limber pine
r/compow Reddit is bipolar and quick to judge
solid spear
I was letting you know of my existence
rapid oxide
@balmy wolf why? 
balmy wolf
@rapid oxide because a Japanese team AMA in r/compow would be so lit
balmy wolf
because you have twitter and i fucking dont
rapid oxide
No prob, gonma do it later
I should send him a PM
Onii-chan can you please do a kawaii q&a on reddit-desu?
pine star
Not having Twitter in 2k17 smh
balmy wolf
i has bad experience in twitter before lulz
pine star
Twitter is less shit than Facebook tbh
wintry matrix
the better one was Orkut
shut kelp
Munchkin seems like went out from team
shut kelp
Said it his afreeca steaming
stone escarp
what happened to yoz in the overwatch world cup day 3?
balmy wolf
technical issue?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFYgONLUAAAMvvf.jpg:large also, OW is dead, guys 
clever portal
Haven't used Facebook in over a year
I have the messenger, that's enough
Munchkin gone 
toxic yacht
i fack all
clever portal
๐ฏ ?
balmy wolf
Logix to
toxic yacht
logix to faze pls
shut kelp
He said He is fa now, no salary now. Said also He can sign any kr team. Didnt mention about claris.
toxic yacht
clever portal
Thanks
clever portal
solid spear
Logix did say about a week ago he was scrimming with an NA team
so Faze does seem somewhat likely
balmy wolf
no Sayaplayer for 
toxic yacht
so maybe they got to know each other better there?
saya staying with MA
which is better tbh
solid spear
for the time being
toxic yacht
also, logix is nutty af, wouldn't call him a downgrade
clever portal
Had Munchkin even played once
LK always had more than 6, but always played the same six
balmy wolf
Munchkin is their Tracer
solid spear
Claris is the one who doesnt really
toxic yacht
pretty sure that munchkin played
clever portal
Other than when they did roster changes
clever portal
Ah, Claris was the one not playing 
toxic yacht
the tracer who fell off the map multiple times
solid spear
Twoeasy returning to bench...I mean LK
toxic yacht
feelsbad for twoeasy
at least he wasn't kicked this time
every time his team starts doing well he's out of it
clever portal
Maybe LH coach gave Munchkin a call
balmy wolf
let me come back to this team where its playerbase shit on me
solid spear
I mean I guess Contenders is in 3 weeks so well know who and are getting beforehand
clever portal
Shadowburn in NA for contenders 
shut kelp
Gamsu said He try to come back lol scene.
clever portal
Wasn't there some rumors he was signing with NRG
shut kelp
He denied rumors
solid spear
just rumors he said he wasnt going, granted hes still under contract so...
even if he was I dont think he could say so
but Im pretty sure he isnt, I know MA coach said hed call him later
balmy wolf
@clever portal screencap plz?
solid spear
LK Logix could possibly open the way for like Sinatraa or someone else on Faze if it happens
rapid oxide
LK most likely wouldn't drop considering Alicus is on the same positive wave as Noah
He believes in OW esport and OWL
So... Chances are: Roster change or possible OWL involvement
clever portal
That doesn't matter though
Alicus is for sure dedicated to the game
But not having $20 million is a large possibility
Although from how he speaks it seems like they have a spot though
rapid oxide
solid spear
clever portal
She's going to be OWL for sure
rapid oxide
Yes, she works for Blizzard in France
Esport division
Obviously
send cv to blizzard france 
supple nymph
stylosa going to pubg with the rest of OW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWwqmC5a4Pw
wintry matrix
dad gaem
solid spear
If Stylosa goes I go
balmy wolf
all of these bandwagoners shake my head
literally just 24+ hours off of Sydney qualifier
and this bullshit hit
red anvil
he's not done, but he wont make exclusive OW content anymore
understandable with all the bashing he gets
clever portal
Oreo leaving
I'm not surprised
Stylosa will go where the views go
Look at pubg
Probably the next 'big' game
Insane views on twitch
solid spear
It's fun
balmy wolf
PubG is a streamer game but after a few months people would just move on to the next big thing tbh
supple nymph
if they dont take a long time developing the competitive element of pubg i could see it working
but at the moment they are still working on the core
clever portal
"beta" game
versed sinew
the game needs more optimization before becoming competitive
supple nymph
if you saw any of the pubg tournaments they are interesting
but like ow shitty spectator experience
wintry matrix
tbh, it seems hard to spectate
balmy wolf
let me spectate this 100 people battle royale that take hours to end
versed sinew
usually like 30 mins
red anvil
culling was a nightyfly, it avg. 30 players active for the past month
i've never seen a game more shortlived
clever portal
Inb4 pubg league
wintry matrix
i know, it's a shame, but apparently the developers broke on something, i haven't been following
clever portal
10 million a spot
red anvil
pubg is taking the h1z1 audience
wintry matrix
i do wonder how legit PUBG esports can be when a large part of Battle Roayles are luck
red anvil
its kinda the same concept as DayZ survival games, which was huge back in the day on twitch
wintry matrix
dayz had an esport?
red anvil
the mod version, partly
pine star
I'm really paranoid of the current state of the game, ngl
red anvil
they tried doing it on the SA version, it was a gigantic fluke, bugs upon bugs, server crashes, a true crash and burn
at over 100k viewers
wintry matrix
was solely pvp or pve too?
wintry matrix
i think i'm only gonna start to be paranoid if a REALLY big org/team drops
red anvil
land, scavenge, smaller and smaller area
wintry matrix
like Rogue or NV
red anvil
however the areas was predeterminated so there wasent a clusterfuck at the end
pine star
I don't mean the orgs and such, I mean the player base and the community personalities
Like it or not it does affect the esports side
wintry matrix
true
pine star
Blizzard need to reinvigorate the game big time
wintry matrix
i do wonder what's their plan if Doomfist doesn't solve all the problems
clever portal
I'm guessing they're having a large patch soon
wintry matrix
oh, i have faith in them fixing things like that, but i don't expect it soon
pine star
This season has been an utter mess
red anvil
they must make a competive system which rewards flexing
balmy wolf
but muh stats
pine star
I wasn't worried about orgs dropping, it was only natural given the approach Blizzard has
But when pros and streamers start dropping too, that's what worries me somewhat
wintry matrix
how would work a system that forces you to play things once in a while? say, you play 10 in a row with Torb, then you can't select him for the next
or something like that
balmy wolf
is not going to drop, espeically when you remember that Alicus has hinted about having doing something for OWL
clever portal
Any org dropping shouldn't be surprising