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Switch to defense and all shit breaks loose
T E A M K I L L
Mccree on defense is just asking to be dived
3rd person dragonblades 
@clever wagon seeing how well he did im surpised he didn't pick a soldier tbh
That's why
?
The times AKTM singlehandedly carry Dorado offense, next thing you're watching Japan just falls off on their knees on defense with AKTM staying off hitscan like it's the pl-- Oh?
He's back to McCree
aetar 
Though this is looking like it's too late

Wrf
deadeye reload cancel
2
fuckin love this guy
Jaysus
He is a mccree main
For his Cree alone, AKTM already topped off one of the best hitscan in the game
he called him akm again
Dafran is
in comparison
AKTM giving you the Dorado Cree plays Taimou hasn't been able to boys
For 3 full days
That's borderline porn
I swear, aetar has visor every 20 seconds
oh boy
ffs this guy is so good
he wasnt even getting touched
like, he has visor every 50 seconds
Good stall
and his aim is fucking ridiculous
i'd get so mad if i saw that i got shot at from under the cart

Aetar & AKTM showing soft porn with extreme Cree/S76 plays
good*
NA spanish 
I got a clip of veineless shooting a tracer from under the cart with a scatter
if that makes it worse
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oh no
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ruh roh
not good
LET'S GO STRAYA
wasted dragonblade
3rd person dragonblade 
Rip aus
if he had angled his dash lower down
Lucio fucked up the ult
Hoh?
HOOO?
looks like we got tiebreaker coming up
2-2????
not yet
Oh
but likely
3-1 I STILL BELIEVE
oasis ๐ค
someone give aetar something for his back
lul
OH?
we gonna get an aetar carry
OH?
he can borrow tviq's
AKTM ASSERT YOUR MCCREE DOMINANCE
fucking mccree
rip
2-2
oasis, here we go
YEEE
2-2
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N O O O OO O
DIE 3-1 DREAM
I CRI
oni chan
caused this
is this match for 2nd spot ?
Enjoy Blizzcon Japan
one mistake followed by one helix
wut no oasis?
DRAW NO
this is match for blizzcon
NO
Yes 2nd place
We're not gonna beat them on Oasis
@forest raven CONSIDER YOURSELF DEPORTED
they said its aus's pick
idk the Aussies did do good
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dont count the aussies out
An Aussie deported from Australia.....????
I wanna see more aktm mccree
Nipon, Banzai!
I wanted 5 maps but notlikethis don't lose
could be bad for aus
McCree on oasis? lul no
Rip mccree
Lul why not
McCree has no breathing room
I dont think so?
Dive
They have all the dive mobility in the world yet what happened on Dorado
dat soldier 
NAISU
YYYYAAAAAAASSSSSSS
phew
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aetar carry
STRAYA CUNTS
OI OI OI
STRAYA CUNTS
STRAYAAAAAAAAAA
it's garden
Don't fuck it up like Lijiang
nerf ta1yo plz
pray
tracer op when 144tick servers
homing helixes incoming
Tayo
is it not first to 3? i thought the caster just said "if australia wins one more round, theyll win"
yup
bls
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holy sHIT
oml :0
Ta1yo 
TRIIIIILLLL
HAHAHAHAH
nooooo
lmao
TRILL IS TEO'S DAD NOW
COMEON JAPAN
lmaoooooooooo aktm get outta here bud

tracers dmg is inzein
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk
Zen ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Yoz
FAK
YYEAAAAHHHHH
YES
HOPLY SHIT YEAAAAAHH
3- 1 ult wise \
gg
FUCK YES
SHIT
Rip
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wooooooooooooooooo
dat ot bar thou
LET'S GO BOIS
GG
JAPAN GO ANIME
YTB
GOOOOO
NOOOOO
FUCK
nooooooooooooooo
FYCJK TAHT WASBNEFUIWEFBWRUIGBERG
LETS GO

YES
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
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MY PREDICTIONTS

FUCK YES
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH BOYYYYYSSS
ggs
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ggggggggggggggg

yiewwwwwwwwwww
HOLY SHIT THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL
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AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
AKTM in 2017 LUL LUL LUL LUL LUL
OI OI OI
GG
what an intense game
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THAT WAS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL
Easily could have been other way though
C:
Now, US needs to go through otherwise it will be embarassing. ...
time to get food at 11.20 pm!
lol
He is very precise
You could say..
I never s een such precision
he had a pretty good atar
I don't even care if we get past quarters in Blizzcon, I'm just happy we get to keep playing on the international stage
what a speech
Thats honestly great numbers for ow
More like 75k+
Other languages had other streams
EVEN BETTER
Also YouTube
60k+ on twitch
ONYA CUNTS
Pretty nice
And the English stream hit 50k
Glad overwatch is getting more views stream by stream
how many did the youtube stream hit?
Hopefully blizzcon gets 100k +
salty daily reminder that we hit 100k in september with the OW Open
but that was an hour ago i had to leave mid tourny
On utube?
YT hit 12k this match
Nice numbers for not so OP match ups
August 4th ffs i have moving day then
ayy
I wanna watch blizzcon on 4 k
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nice
YES BOYS
ah gud
waiting for VOD
get hype for katowice bois
shadowburn is back with no ping, 144 tick and a 144 hz monitor

my uni starts tomorrow so rip me being able to watch games live
Shadowburn 
Sweden won against Australia right?
yep
3-1
katowice is gunna be moist
3-1
Good
nO
That's all I needed to know
Japan lost against Australia?
yee
REEEEEE
Australia are fucking beasts
fuck u
let's goo straya
they are gonna lose fast at blizzcon but whatever
lul
SK next week
Taiwan looking at Australia qualifying 
I am so excited! AHHH
is poland a good team?
2 weeks, if I could calculate

Next week is APEX final
Why 2 weeks? Was it delayed?
they're in a group with SK
and netherlands
so they most likely aren't making it out
29th is APEX, then 4th is Katowice

Let's be mediocre together

italy is probably stronger anyway
lol
can't wait to watch austria get bumfucked by jehong and fl0w3r 

i have seen those videos before


Inb4 Austria 4 0 SK 
Austria is so fucked its sad
still disappointed about the lack of KDP members on SK
but they're gonna still gonna stomp, lul
My cutie rascal 
Let's hope that fl0w3r's wrist actually works
SBB and Flow3r have been playing together longer than Rascal and Birdring
also, LW Blue and LH are very close teams
They should have went with miro
like, really close
And Flow3r is more meta resistant than either of them, imo
Birdring Rascal is broken doe
close to the point that you could call them sister teams
so yeah, it's probably better like this
since building up synergy is gonna be easier
but muh birdring and rascal

Yeah they're borderline sister teams with how much they play together apparently
SBB's Tracer is also 
Never
sk play in two weeks
4 august
still two weeks :/ ah, i got excited when i saw people talking about it assumed it was on soon
thanks tho
How was it
Is anyone here going to watch esports-Norwaycup
Link ?
Ok wait
Bullshit
Jp is out?
Reminder #2 OPC got taken for a real ride by a country who didnt make it far in the same tourney
I'll just enjoy that for now
SunSister and Detonator Gold are also shit teams
Evident by the fact none of their players were on Team Japan

Implying I gave credit to either team
rip spain
In fact, it's even better: none of JP roster has any pro experience and they still did that much
How's that #2 OPC looking anyway
I'm a sore loser and I don't care

Weabs power
Hilarious if you think thats savage even the slightest bit @rapid oxide
First anime, later the world
I'm all for the underdogs no matter who they are
Esp if they make hype plays
(Which is not the case with Vietnam)
AKTM > AKM
Oh
@zealous venture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfg39EWmQkw 2016 AUS vs Skoera
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Cup
I wonder which team will pick dafran and sinatra up
The best esport video
wat
Wait I'm watching the vod from wc now
I want spoilers
Who went to blizzcon
Australia and ?
Sweden
Of some reason I thought two teams from the same group couldn't go
But I guess that's what happened in the playoffs
Friendly reminder Australia only won after being taken into a tiebreaker by a roster which members hasnt seen pro play
And Aussie was still a pre made team as well with experience
But I won't ruin the aussies happiness
im hype for group E next week
I got shoved all 3-1's and Aussie oioioi's while the match was on so I'm being a sore loser rn
group E has two really solid teams lmao
No I mean this chat was full of Aussie supporters lol
calling it south korea and russia will win next week ๐
Ah
tbh
Japan as the 0 pro player underdogs got me much more hype when it came down to Jp vs aus
but russia does have to face canada 
I mean
feelsbadman
turkey to win world cup
Japan fucking bodied Finland out of the group C & D finals for anaheim
How can I not be hyped
netherlands has morte, dante, twotoxic and vizility lol i honestly doubt SK can beat that
AKTM fucking duked it out with Taimou on dorado
i'm hyped for group H ๐
group H is gonna be awesome ๐
whats good about group h
NL beating SK 
israel belgium
SK will still dumpster everyone except for T1 west/Aus
NL beats SK mark my words :^)
mark my words canada will win the world cup
Literally not possible
I don't think even the teams those players are from can beat SK
@clever portal screenshot all these so we can laugh later
NL didnt settle for the best players
See it like this
they settled for a team that works great together
SK beat AFB
A tier 1 KR team
Which beat NV 4-1
This is the 2nd best western team
Which could probably 3-0 any western team other than rogue
being honest i think france or canada might win the cup
if NL picked a team that was made up of the best NL players, they would've gone with twoeasy, morte, dante, crusade, me and musashi
but tbh i think this is even better
SK beat AFB
AFB without Mano is not top tier team
Mano is their spine and best player
What abt Recry
how bout we let the leaders play overwatch for the world cup next year
Well aus is settled for top 8 already for anaheim though
Taiwan is really good
They were playing in OPC
With Australia team
They beat every team 3-0 for a few weeks
They beat Aus 8-2 in the finals
what happened to the US team
Cant wait to see arikadou (not sure of the name) with Australia next year
should've gone with kyky, grimreality, harbleu, esper etc
maybe i should start watching more of the pro scene
If you want to see pro scene
TIMTHETATMAN for team USA
Next week would be a good time to get started
tim the boosted man
ok
3 players on SK team are from the 1st rank team, Lunatic Hai
Arikadou is actually a very good genji honestly. I think he has the potential to go pro
tim is a pro hanzo 
Arikadou a streamer?
He has the potential
could i feel special for once in my life 
should've gone with kyky, grimreality, harbleu, esper etc
Literally none of those names are consistently and significantly better than the current roster
Esp Harbleu
fraser agar is pro hansoap
tbh SK scrims should be taken with 3 truckloads of salt
they're looking solid this far
but c'mon
ardeont was partially throwing
Japan has no pro players
@clever wagon you high?
all of them came from 3 pro teams over there
and also no idea why this chat was so pro Australian yesterday
too bad I was tired and wasn't there to witness the (almost) epic comeback
i wanted vietnam to win ๐ (JK)
yesterday
fucking timezoens I got so confused
but yeh, a ton of australians came here
I think it was just a lot of Australians here
since I know a bunch of aussies and not a single japanese guy
Atleast when I saw playoffs
I also naturally rooted for australia
my country isn't in the world cup ๐ญ
technically it wasn't "yesterday"
more like a 4 hours nap
but point still stand
going to have to watch the vods now
time to wait for Ta1yo, yoz, and AKTM to get poach to NA tho 
a bit throwy at times though
is doomfist gonna be allowed when he comes out? in the world cup
Yoz was pretty fucking good tbh
Finland made it a priority to blow him up
and even then they couldn't do it

and apparently Ieatuup also has some fever and tonsiltiis
what's up with Sydney qualifier and sick but carrying Tracer play anyway
Tviq and Ieatuup
Shadowburn 144 tick soon 
people are making teams lose by making them sick
Still better than LWB
suprised no one got attacked by spiders
144 T H I C C
Maybe they just didn't say it happened monkaS
if it was held in ireland people would get attacked by potato's
nah it is in Poland
they'd get stab instead
I know Katowice is a country with esport pedigree but still
some
especially with how Shanghai was run
so where is the next groups playing?
any events worth watching in the mean time?
anything else?
alright i'll be back watching some things in KR
reading r/compow thread made me have cancer
off meta comps
where the fuck were you when
was running the same triple tank formation on Lijiang Tower vs 
there's a team called weewoo 
weeawoo
Sojum new pic 
wanted to change it a week ago, told myself that I'd keep it to honour cwoosh during the qualifiers
inb4
poach Cwoosh wholesale though


the Sydney qualifier was a 10 hours marathon
still a long way to go from PGL Major's 400K+ views though
Fair comparison
mind you the group stage was 200K or so
still a significantly long way to go with it as well

443K right now for Gambit vs Immortals 
can't remember atm it is rocketed to 700K+ though
having a rather interesting final also work against Krakow
Eleague's final has fan favorites VP vs Astralis
this one we has 2 underdogs in Gambit and Immortals
both teams nobody could saw that they'd get to final
What a stomp though
just one map so far
if
win though this year is their year
OWL LA spot, walking the Royal Road with their CSGO roster straight from minor to Major champions, and their LOL team is 1st in NA LCS atm as well
https://www.twitch.tv/castersnet Vivi's Adventure vs Zengaming bo5
Muselk + Timo ship anyone?
i never saw that

Timo cheating on his japanese BF
Happymou 
how were the finals?
and Spain v Sweden?
Heard it was a stomp, haven't seen it yet
blizzard should hire this guy
I wouldn't call it stompy, it wasn't a rogue vs norway 3-0, closer to a china vs thailand 3-0
although I'd call it more competitive than china vs thailand
thanks world cup
btw
one side of the World Cup playoff is already established
Sweden vs China
Australia vs Frogue

this gonna be good
I know just saw u talking about it
got the screenshot
it could have been akm vs aktm

literally the most confusing match for the casters, probably
Maybe AKTM gets an OWL team 
sure
At the very least by Libalent
Ta1yo being Japanese-American also helps his case at well.
@clever portal the tank line is already Libalent
AKTM and Ta1yo aren't in it though
because they are in USG Iridata
they literally just pick the best players possible for the roster
out of the top 3 roster in Japan
it showed
they were literally Thailand 2.0 but even more skills
Katowice tho.........the storyline is going to be "who is going to accompany SK to WC"
Never would have heard of any of these players otherwise
if they drop a map tho 
Im hoping for russia
I dont want to see Canada with Mangachu over Train and id
lul
Russsia is not playing well in public scrims
while Canada is not going to go with Train
because Train is muslim and Poland is heavily anti Muslim
Netherland is a possiblity tho
I doubt netherlands have a chance really
netherlands would have to play vs canada or whatever
Whoever gets 2nd in the Canada Russia group is out
2nd in their group for sure but the wont win
don't think that they'll make it tbh
like, they're in a group with austria and poland
3 support mains, 2 randoms and 2easy
it'd be lol for them to not make it to 2nd
although we know absolutely nothing about poland
so I shouldn't be so quick to judge
wat7 man just there for the memes
we also all thought that japan would fail, lul
I'm hesistate to call out Poland/Austria/Singapore/Turkey out right away for the same reason as well
the japanese OW community thought that they wouldn't even beat vietnam
I remember someone came in here awhile ago calling matth one of the best dps in the world lmao
most recently owly six
tank is playing on support

Crusade is doing the same thing over at Netherland actually
ya, he's playing flex
I'd have thought that dante would be dps
with crusade on lucio
and morte on zen
seeing him on dva relly surprised me
SK vs Canada
NL vs Russia
ya, most likely
Russia's scrims have been very unimpressive, (they actually lost vs NL iirc) but I believe in them
want to see sdb at blizzcon again
oh yeah, mistakes apparently refused to join
Wait till Shadowburn on LAN
which would explain why they took txao

in case someone somehow doesn't know this yet, times for katowice
at least this will lead nicely into OW Contenders S1
time for
to poach Cwoosh
and maybe a Swedish flex support because ain't no way Chips will get buy out from 
round 2
Not this shit again
if nevix starts talking when getting dived, probably him

lol

Not bait at all 
Cwoosh probably needs to diversify his hero pool tho
his Genji was absolute ass in Sydney
his 76 meanwhile is decent but it is only servicable at best
Hog 
don't know his entire pool though
but yeah, in the current meta he really only needs 3 heroes, so I don't see why he'd go for his other picks. Especially since all the other heroes he plays at that level are kinda garbage now
his dva isn't that great iirc
to paraphrase ZP
D.va is always better in a hand of someone who plays supportively
DPS mains hates D.va because they found her to be unfun to play against
so only the Coolmat69 of the world can play her properly
the rest just use her as DM bot
I took the bait ford
as dps main i found out that dva is so fun to play
its like fun police
no fun allowed, except me
same lol
Stopping their carry 
it still feels cheap af tho
D.va is underrated
a good D.va can cuck a team's DPS hard
and stilfe the enemy team as a whole
underrated in term of how hard it is to master her
hence all the meme about D.va players being brain dead
Hey people make memes about Winston being no aim no brain
the way D.va is being play this meta is really requires fitnesse than brute force, and a lot of off tank can't adjust
and again, you can say that she is underrated and such, but that won't stop the meme
i think people who complains about dva want to play CS
DVA in lower levels like plat and gold is no skill
like, if we're calling DM bullshit 80% of this game habilities are bullshit
I think you have to agree that 4 seconds is a long time in a pro game
DVa takes away 4 seconds of damage
i dunno, there's ways to play around
there is
Such as?
maybe it's because we don't have a lot of laser/melee heroes
Spending an ultimate to drain her DM?
C'mon
We have them
But they're all shit tier
so is rein shield bullshit?
Rein shield isnt 15 meters long
Rein shield is balanced because you can clearly see where it is
How much is left/etc
so the problem is clearer visuals?
That's a start
like, there was a time when dva was just an ult farm and if i'm not mistaken the only change to dm was the point-blank registration
my biggest issue with DM is the lack of a visual indicator
you never know when it's up
and a good dva will manage it in a way where she always has a bit
i'm just saying if it isn't more of a problem of perception, not figuring out how to play around her
so you never know when it's completely down for a short time
I would say add some laser dps
So we're just gonna wait another 3 months until people "learn to play around her" and keep this shit meta going?
more laser heroes would be cool, also the clarification too
Maybe doomfist will suffice
i'm just spitballing
I mean I think DM is too big for one Is make her crit box smaller if it meant DM was 12 meters or something
toggle could be cool too
That sort of idea would mean that some ultimates would eventually go though matrix
For example nano visor would eventually break matrix
Probably after 1-2 seconds
Depending on the limit
Imo the biggest problem with DVa is matrix time
so that 76 would run over people even more?
For example 4 seconds is a long time in pro games
yeeah, no
But short in plat
I'm fine with nanovisor getting completely eaten
Team fights sometimes continue over a minute in plat
dva is like, the only reason why triple dps isn't overrunning everyone
nerfing matrix would basically make supports impossible to play and would result in everyone running 3 dps
I don't want her to be nerfed into oblivion
but we need such kidna of bullshit with how ow is designed
I mean I think if stuff like Zarya comes back and they didnt make Hog completr garbage she wouldn't be as retarded
that's whyi don't like when people's argument to delet her is "unfun"
like, she's unfun, but necessary
Raising her skill ceiling would make her less unfun
i don't find her unfun
her skill ceiling is pretty high
i wonder how much of Blizzard's balancing decision is based on pick rate, considering D.va is very popular
just not mechanically
I mean mechanically
it's one of the feedbacks they consider probably
That's sound great in theory but how?
mechanically how?
Matrix tracking 
Dva's skill is just balanced differently
I don't see anythign wrong with matrix not being mechanically demanding
also, you still need to aim
like, people who whine about dva eating nanovisor because DM takes no skill
pressing Q
and pointing at people
while the pc aims for you
also isn't skillful
lul
^
like, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Dash kinda the same?
more management than mechanics
You have to aim with dash...
don't need a lot of aim
Dash is probably one of the most high skill abilities in the game
What are you talking about?
It requires both mechanical skill AND shit tons of gamesense to use properly
when people whine about dva matrix lmfao
you dont ult into a rein with a shield

well, rein shield is 100x easier to get around
But somehow top 5 dps players seem to be doing it
true
you also know when rein shield is up
but still
gamesense i agree with you that requires a lot, but aim? i dunno, don't "just" need to know when and then just dash in a general area

Completely different issues
breaking dva mech and ulting is 10x harder than breaking a shield
Just add a red flashing light on DVa, when matrix is under 50%

but yes, too many teams
don't use bomb
on dva
before matrixing
like, they nanovisor into dva after wasting pulsebomb
then they whine about dva
imagine how cancer this game would be if there was no dva
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Use sombra 
it's like that in every western tournament
only have rez, beat and trance to mitigate a well placed death blossom









