China had a weak group tbh
#esports-discussion
pine star
narrow sphinx
The good thing is that spain will not have to fight japan again
lime whale
lmao Krusher99 ad
rapid oxide
Soe 
wintry matrix
Japan had a weak spain too
wary falcon
spain was terrible
burnt nimbus
spain? more like S pain
wary falcon
i think if harryhook played soldier from the start
narrow sphinx
The pain
wary falcon
3-1 to spain
pine star
@rapid oxide you missed her out-punning Goldenboy
light hearth
@balmy wolf i should !
lime whale
Carryhook literally saved spain from getting steamrolled
wary falcon
yes, single-handely
jagged crater
missed harry on soldier
narrow sphinx
So if they learn they will just let harry demolish in the next matches
light hearth
Harry played out of his mind for a bit there
burnt nimbus
best part of that match was AKTM vs Harryhook, so exiting
narrow sphinx
Duel at midnight
rapid oxide
AKTM > AKM 
wary falcon
wintry matrix
wait, does AZK got a third smurf account?
narrow sphinx
Hey hey
Dont underestimate the man with natural aimbot
rapid oxide
@pine star sadly : s
balmy wolf
Soz and Ta1yo is the underrated carry though.
wintry matrix
even tho spain was weak, you could see they were good players
wintry matrix
i'm really excited for who will blow up after WC ends
pine star
And so many clutch heals
jagged crater
Spain had good players, cant take that away from Japan's victory
balmy wolf
@pine star that's Soz
pine star
Oh right
wintry matrix
not taking demerit, but Spain def didn't play well for most of the match
wintry matrix
Bromas and winghaven were fighting to see who could die first more times
balmy wolf
and clearly it is not going to be HarryHook
pine star
Toxiken hopefully
balmy wolf
they said that Toxiken wasn't playing well as D.va
so there's that
but yeah, Bromas and Winghaven was feeding like crazy
wintry matrix
i think they should forget dva and just try something else
i will be hard, but what can you do with no dva player
balmy wolf
on Volskyaya if it wasn't for the stupid spawn Japan would have cap the point much faster. It was always Bromas or someone else getting picked off
lime whale
they need the dva or your gonna get stuff like aktm on mccree again
wintry matrix
which sucks because last year Bromas went nuts
wary falcon
also get rid of winghaven
pine star
Winghaven engages are so bad it hurts
wintry matrix
i know, but, does that really outweigh the penalty of a bad dva player?
balmy wolf
that -500 IQ play vs AKTM play was also 🔫
pine star
Lmfao
wintry matrix
instead of playing to their strenghts
jagged crater
is that dhak from ex-selfless?
balmy wolf
yes
pine star
Yup
balmy wolf
Dhak somehow has gold damage on Nepal 
wintry matrix
that's really worrying
pine star
TviQ Tracer 
wintry matrix
you meme but i'm still sad for those disbands
pine star
Bromas is one toxic fuck isn't he
wintry matrix
i wouldn't be so quick off one soundless clip
rapid flower
who was the one who looked really mad on the spanish team the whole time?
pine star
He was clearly flaming folk
wintry matrix
bromas
pine star
rapid flower
ok
pine star
@rapid flower also Winghaven
wintry matrix
maybe it was with dhak, since he was laughing
lime whale
yea bromas was tilting the fuck out at the end
thorn holly
Guys there is one problem that probable you dont know
balmy wolf
everyone on Spain looked to be on tilted tbh, not just Toxiken or Bromas
jagged crater
anime is real
thorn holly
Team Spain didnt do tryouts
balmy wolf
@thorn holly so was Finland
thorn holly
They just put The best players
wintry matrix
i was going to say something like NRG, which in they have no synergy
lime whale
I feel like they were probably arguing sometime during the matches judging from how they looked and played
thorn holly
And they didnt scrim with Harryhook
wintry matrix
tho spain doesn't have the widest pool
there's some spanish lans, but that's it i think
thorn holly
And Toxiken looks like cant Play Dva
rapid oxide
"Getting rekt? Use this excuses" [ ] Didn't scrim [ ] Meta didn't Favor us [ ] Burnout [ ] JetLag [ ] Koreans [ ] Lag [ ] PC Issue
pine star
He can't play soldier either lol
thorn holly
Thats why Harry has to Play Dva
balmy wolf
Bromas and Toxiken is the worst DPS duo we've seen so far
because they are pros
nevermind weak teams like HK or VN
wintry matrix
bromas was always a bit inconsistent in Dignitas
thorn holly
Bromas is not that bad
jagged crater
harryhook is still the lucio player for envy, just shows how much of a world class player he is
lime whale
Their whole team aside from Harry didn't flow right
jagged crater
jokin around maybe?
thorn holly
No
rapid flower
spain just felt like there was one big comminuication problem or someone getting tilted that screwed the team up entirley
wintry matrix
bromas is good, but i disagree violently with hulk on that
thorn holly
He said that seriously
jagged crater
when did he say that
rapid oxide
CABRON AJAJAJAJ PENDEJO
jagged crater
and better at what? or just in general
thorn holly
@rapid oxide *Pendejo
balmy wolf
Twitter
thorn holly
After envy kicked him
wintry matrix
bromas is better on mccree right?
thorn holly
Yes
rapid oxide
AKTM is better 
sly igloo
AKTM was Amazing.
balmy wolf
true
but he was playing Genji whenever Spain runs D.va
and Japan kept out diving Spain on that
so he clearly chose his picks based on what the enemy team is running
rapid flower
now that i think about it maybe bromas looked so mad was all the times he got flashed. it did happen alot
and that is how you use proper grammar
wintry matrix
a bit too, but there's also a lot of the times were just fed, or did nothing and die
also LOTS of bad pulse bombs
compared to JP tracer which stuck a lot of them
jagged crater
im rewatching aktm, holy moly he's fuckin nutty
rapid flower
i only counted 1-3 pulse bomb sticks from him for the whole match
wary falcon
compared to JP tracer which stuck a lot of them
balmy wolf
whoever was playing Sombra on Spain was also bad as well. He got his head popped like a few time vs Japan
wintry matrix
i'm not saying he stuck all of the bombs, but he hit a lot of good ones, at least compared to bromas
balmy wolf
Ta1yo was the whole reason why they won the first two maps
jagged crater
so just strictly their own?
balmy wolf
not really
jagged crater
can they login into korean ?
balmy wolf
they can
rapid oxide
italians fan rn https://i.ytimg.com/vi/d_cw0dmgmu0/hqdefault.jpg
balmy wolf
the whole asia server is split into different ones
jagged crater
that is interesting
since they're relatively close to eachother, the southeast asian countries
balmy wolf
Japan is not in the SEA region lol
jagged crater
i mean entire europe has their own region right?
balmy wolf
yeah
the asia server is just weird
there are small sub groups
SEA region, China, KR, Japan, Australia, etc etc
wary falcon
you mean just server locations
same goes for europe
and america
for example you can play on north server or eu west server
balmy wolf
yeah
jagged crater
did iddqd not want to be on team sweden?
balmy wolf
idk
but something something 
dumpster fire something something
wouldn't be a bad idea given how bad Cwoosh is playing tbh
thick cosmos
Didn't watch sweden vs Portugal, did Portugal play well or did sweden play bad or both?
red anvil
Did not expect those results 
forest raven
toxic yacht
waking up and watching the vods, head of to twitch and this is the first thing I see
AUS Production
they dropped seltzer for jamerson because they knew what was important
what was I saying about production? 
balmy wolf
Wasn't the Shanghai one in 30fps?
toxic yacht
yep
balmy wolf
I guess they learnt lul
toxic yacht
it was different people handling the production
balmy wolf
or it was just a dumb mistake
toxic yacht
ya, APAC was also in 30 FPS, which was from the same guys
clever portal
Apex as well
But all of them are capable of 60
So they choose 30 for some reason
toxic yacht
maybe asians can't see above 30 fps?
I dunno, but iirc the APEX fps is a mistake
somehow
since they used to write 30 fps and 60 fps
or still do it
okay, I take back what I said about the production
LUL
feral solar
wasnt it 50fps on highest quality?
toxic yacht
I dunno, actually
never watched it on the highest
also, to the people who watched the match yesterday, I'm at australia vs italy
when are the frames getting saved?
clever portal
Sometime around second push maybe
I think when they first cap point A
Should just skip till there
toxic yacht
oh yeah, it got fixed in the middle of streets
clever portal
Powered by T-Mobile 
toxic yacht
T-Mobile Australian Internet
clever portal
Lots of good memes out of that blunder
clever portal
I think the best one was "I changed my mind, please bring back 30 FPS"
clever portal
Ieatuup was doing well as well
toxic yacht
feelsripman
kindred kiln
just opened overgg to check results, wtf happened to swedes?
toxic yacht
Misfits happened
feral solar
clever portal
Even chips can't carry them
toxic yacht
honestly, they should have sent the entire misfits squad, would probably have performed better
lol
they'll likely be better if they make it to blizzcon and actually have time to gel
clever wagon
@toxic yacht F u, I'm a proud Asian who gets agitated every time my OW gets frame drops to sub 100 fps
toxic yacht
LUL
clever wagon
I can see 60 fps just fine and feel the input lag difference between 60 and above, thank you
clever portal
toxic yacht
my theory would have explained why consoles are so dominant in japan, but it was kinda disproven
red anvil
aussieland suprisingly strong
red anvil
pro team sure, but blank havent achived anything as far as i'm aware?
red anvil
wasent it that matched where FW just smocked them?
clever portal
That format was insane anyway
The match should have been finished on day 1
Also FW is really good
Maybe tier 2 Apex
So Australia is at a level a bit lower than that
clever wagon
@toxic yacht I mean, there are already some games that can disprove it to begin with
Tekken 7, DMC, N:A...
Though they're not your typical JRPG/2D fighting game
¯_(ツ)_/¯
red anvil
am i watching swoosh or arhan on team sweden?
smoky hinge
red anvil
just the first min
toxic yacht
I dunno, half of cwoosh's blades were used to bait support ults
he only had a few genuinly shit blades
clever portal
@smoky hinge Guys, please calm down. Chat has to be in slow mode, otherwise Blizzard's ISP can't maintain a 30fps stream AND an active chat. It's really simple if you think about it. You want a better stream and better chat? $20mil please.
toxic yacht
honestly, now that I watched the entire match
the only map that misfits played like shit was the volskaya B offense
outside of that they kinda crushed them/had close games
sweden's ult management and soundbarrier usage was utter fucking garbage though
won a lot of engagements that they should have lost off pure individual skill and tviq carrying
LUL
clever portal
NA group stage 
clever portal
First real NA LAN in a long time
solid spear
its NA itll be the worst one
toxic yacht
clever portal
Slasher might be there 
red anvil
last was Word cup @ blizzcon?
toxic yacht
MLG Vegas and NGE were also a thing
toxic yacht
yep
only the qualifiers were in December
and it was mid-late december
maybe also the ro8
or at least part of it
solid spear
clever portal
balmy wolf
Yesterday I called that Japan was no slouch. Glad that my dudes beat Spain from bell to bell
clever portal
@toxic yacht I'm eating a lahmacun 
clever portal
Einfach doner wrap
toxic yacht
aso
never ate it
pls don't kill me
stopped eating so much döner stuff after I overdosed on dürüm
clever portal
Durum overdose
solid spear
._.
balmy wolf
@toxic yacht yesterday even Alwaysoov commented on why Team Sweden's Genji was so shite
he said that Cwoosh needs to step it up if they wants to get out of group
solid spear
should've sent full 
Nevix better
balmy wolf
the worst part is that might be true
Cwoosh was Arhaning the whole day
Tviq tried to carry the team but Zebbo and Cwoosh was undoing it
solid spear
😡
wary falcon
never go full airhan
balmy wolf
I'm sort of new to the competitive scene of Overwatch, and just started following Overwatch tournaments. I'm sort of confused on the format of the World Cup, and how it works. The thing I'm most confused of is the point system. Anyone willing to help me understand all of this?
limber pine
Swoosh's dragonblades were 'meh' at best
clever portal
Okay
Every game in the group stage is 4 maps
Every team plays each other once
After this, wins are what determines group place
If wins/loss/draws are tied
They look at map score
After that top two teams play the top 2 teams of the other group
For example, 1st group A vs 2nd Group B
The winners of these two 'semifinals' go to blizzcon
@balmy wolf
balmy wolf
It is Soccer World Cup format + this weird insistance from 
to showcase all the maps types
Alright
is it possible to 4-4 in group stage?
yes.
more like 6-6 since 4 maps series x 3 opponents
I mean like in a game
clever portal
No
Only 4 maps
Contenders had a strange format where draws awarded 1 win to both teams
limber pine
clever portal
In here I think they determine a winner for each map
Someone correct me if I'm wrong
balmy wolf
Okay but
they only use the tiebreaker when it is an elimination game.
right now there's no elimination just yet.
but a draw = 2-2
Let's just say in Hybrid, it's 3-3
3-2*
............that's not how it works.
No I mean like in the first round
First map rather
Just saying a scenario
if it is 3-2 then somebody win, no?
Yeah, but my question is if it will go to that assault round where you have to capture points and there's certain checkpoints
Or is it just an automatic win
i mean normal procedure applies with individual maps. The same rules in competitive = same rules here
limber pine
^
balmy wolf
except maybe Control because it is BO3 but the rest is usual
clever portal
So are you asking about the rules of individual maps?
Or if they need to play all 4 maps everytime?
clever portal
As Reign said, the rules are all the same as in game
So if someone finishes Kings Row 3-2
limber pine
except control being bo3
clever portal
The team that got the 3 checkpoints has won
balmy wolf
What if it's still tied?
clever portal
Then the map is a tie
balmy wolf
So the series would be 1-1
clever portal
And they go to a tiebreaker for the tie, to determine map winner
balmy wolf
Oh
clever portal
Someone want to confirm that?
I can't find a tied map on over.gg
i'm 99% sure it doesn't go 1-1 map score anymore for a tiee
balmy wolf
tiebreaker is only for elimination game.
So Reign, does it go to 1-1?
and draw won't score.
What do you mean by drawing wont score
It'll stay 0-0?
yes.
So then 3-0 is possible
wary falcon
from junior dafran to sopti jr
clever portal
balmy wolf
Alright so I think I have an idea of Hybrid and Control maps, I sort of don't understand Assault and Escort maps.
1 - Hybrid - If both of the teams manage to get full 3 points, and still tie after the mini assault game, the score remains 0-0.
2 - Control - Bo3
basically
clever portal
What do you want to know about Escort and Assault?
balmy wolf
tfw HarryHook was so traumatized playing D.va that he forgot how to put on a jacket
I just want to know how you gain points, and if draws are possible
clever portal
On Escort draws are hard
You have to push the payload all the way, and then the enemy does the same
And you both finish with 0 time
That is a draw
On Assault, draws used to be very common
You have two capture points
Each one gives you 1 point
Along with the points there is a tick 'system'
This also exists on hybrid maps btw, on the first point
Each third you cap of the objective gives a tick
balmy wolf
Which gives you a point?
balmy wolf
Ah
clever portal
Each tick you capture, saves that progress for the next time you attack
balmy wolf
What are the solutions for tie breaks in Assault, and escort?
clever portal
So lets say you don't capture a point
You capture point A, getting 1 point
If you get 2 ticks on point b, this progress is saved
Then the enemy needs to capture a tick more than you to win
Or if they capture a tick less than you, they lose
balmy wolf
is assault bo3?
clever portal
Assault is only 1 game
solid spear
Well assault is one map
solid spear
Unless you mean control
clever portal
You have that much time
solid spear
Which is bo3
clever portal
Assault is Volskaya, and Lunar Colony in the world cup
warm totem
also known as the mighty 2cp
balmy wolf
And what happens if you miraculously end up with the same captures and/or ticks?
Nothing?
warm totem
you cant with same ticks
balmy wolf
nothing, yes.
balmy wolf
So it's possible to 1-0 a series
balmy wolf
I'm guessing escort is the same thing but instead of points it's a payload
highly unlikely with the way the competitive ruleset has been. Even draw on 2CP is a rarity atm
warm totem
isnt it the accurate percentage u have to capture IF they get more than the first tix
tic*
clever portal
Escort close to never draws
balmy wolf
you can draw escort, but it usually only in case of a mutual agreement in term of "there's a cheater. Let's not do anything."
clever portal
Yes, it's either don't push payload at all
Or push it all the way in overtime
For both teams
solid spear
Escort you cant draw
balmy wolf
What if both teams manage to escort the payload all the way?
solid spear
Theres no way a team doesnt push it a cm
clever portal
If they both push all the way
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf one minute for both
balmy wolf
@solid spear in Escort you can. But again, it is only for the case when both teams decided to draw because cheater
balmy wolf
so technically draw is a possibility
wary falcon
now i can die happy
balmy wolf
but unrealistic in real life
Alright
wanna draw? Just have the defense camp the point, and the offense does nothing
Now I fully get group stage
zero progress
In playoffs though, if it's bo5, what extra game mode is played if there's a five game?
BO3 Oasis
fifth*
🔫
it is close to impossible though
because 2 control maps on both ends
What if it's 1-0 after 4 games?
Rare occasion, but
whoever got the one win............
Yeah but then what's the point of saying "bo5"?
gusty notch
balmy wolf
whoever got 3 first in a BO5 win.............
5 maps is just the maximum set of maps will be play out.................
clever portal
In Bo5, they will tiebreak
balmy wolf
Tiebreaks are impossible because of the control map?
i mean yeah, have you seen a draw Control map before?
pine star
clever wagon
@balmy wolf have you played TF2 for example
tight vault
australia needs nerfed
gusty notch
Australia needs buff
clever portal
But after a 3-0
clever wagon
@tight vault the others need to git fucking good
clever portal
Any other outcome than the team with the 3 maps winning is impossible
So they stop playing
tight vault
so australia has a good team this year 😛
balmy wolf
Italy is kind of a weak match up tbh. Australia vs Portugal will be more telling
Finland vs Spain tho
time for Taimou vs HarryHook
tight vault
wait finland vs spain is happening
clever wagon
Any country can have their best players and composition but no let's make this a fucking meme
Is basically 2016
gusty notch
tight vault
australia vs china 
balmy wolf
@tight vault will be happening tonight
clever portal
Taimou said they have ego problems
tight vault
how do i check what matches are happening in the world cup tonight
clever portal
Taimou vs Harryhook 
tight vault
i want vietnam to win but i know it won't happen
tight vault
upset
wary falcon
Japan looked much stronger today
balmy wolf
Vietnam won't win
speaking as a Vietnamese
they are lacking experience in worldwide pro scene and it showed vs Finland
wary falcon
Wolf, why you are not on team Vn?
naive plover
sweden wont win
wary falcon
as coach
balmy wolf
because of reasons
clever portal
Aionee in here
naive plover
what
naive plover
??
clever portal
I've only seen you in general
tight vault
maybe ireland can get a pro team in the world cup
naive plover
im never in general
clever portal
The OW general
naive plover
do irish people really play
used to be a meme about polo being the only irish person in masters/GM
oh yeah
clever portal
i don't know any irish pros
tight vault
wary falcon
toxic yacht
he's british, hence the team UK thing
toxic yacht
it took long for people to hit 4k+, but top 500 started in master for a long time
I think it went over 4k
towards the end
tight vault
692 
wary falcon
Valve reworked their system, hope Blizzard will do the same
balmy wolf
we were 49th @clever portal
wary falcon
4200 is quite joke nowadays
clever portal
Get playing Polo
balmy wolf
even if i got to 5k it wouldnt help
clever portal
Need to hit 3861 before next year
balmy wolf
wat
toxic yacht
that's awfully specific
tight vault
i need to hit 1SR
tight vault
romania get's 32 still does better than argentina
solid spear
Nah
wary falcon
Argentina played well
balmy wolf
Im pretty sure even if i actually got to 5k we wouldnt move even 5 places
wary falcon
Klaus especially
tight vault
didn't one of them have aimbot
toxic yacht
klaus looked kinda sketchy, but that's it. looked kinda
so reason to throw around accusations
clever portal
Good that world cup showcases so much talent
toxic yacht
he had many moments when his crosshair was shaking at nothing
clever portal
I'm sure Klaus will be on a team soon
toxic yacht
ya, he was
Klaus 🙏
🙏 I used to believe in Saint Nicholas 🙏 Now I believe in Santa Klaus 🙏
tight vault
Santa klaus 👌🏿
balmy wolf
nah, AKTM is lit
so was Ta1yo and Soz
Klaus is fine but he is inferior to AKTM as newly discovered players
tight vault
so the UK will probably fail again
clever portal
AKTM could get signed by Libalent
toxic yacht
AKTM could get signed by Libero
balmy wolf
AKTM is already in UGS Iridata, which is the top JP team atm
but they didn't apply for the OPC qualifier
tight vault
i mean no stylosa on team UK so 
balmy wolf
only Libalent
also AKTM with the shutdown on Bromas https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentAgitatedShingleBigBrother
solid spear
balmy wolf
Bromas probably got tilted to oblivion with the way he got shutdown this match
tight vault
1v1 world cup tournament 😛
balmy wolf
I find it funny how the guy with a name so similar to aKm is a very good hitscan
what's up with hitscan players and weird name anyway
AZK, IDDQD, AKM, AKTM, etc etc
tight vault
so how much money do i need to make my own country and get in the world cup and lose to south korea 6 times
clever portal
Enough to get your own country legally
And hire a 100 players
To give your country a high rank
balmy wolf
get good @tight vault
clever portal
Why don't you get your own country in
wary falcon
what's up with hitscan players and weird name anyway
names like this were popular
in mid 2000
2005-2006
so lit
tight vault
i main bastion and torbjorn
wary falcon
still waiting to see pro offensive Torb on KR
toxic yacht
also, wtf is up with tank players, specifically off-tanks mostly having weird names with M
wary falcon
mowzassa, miro, mano
tight vault
wait is shadowburn in the world cup again? 😛
balmy wolf
Russia without sdb is a throw
toxic yacht
mano, miro, mafu, mowzassa, miso, mezr, milo
wary falcon
also Txao played as ringer for team GB
balmy wolf
milo 
wary falcon
Russia without sdb is a throw
without SDB but with Tonik and Mistakes
this team will be stronger
and -Norgac
just my opinion
toxic yacht
I dunno, I just want to see him play on a decent ping again
clever portal
Wait for contenders season 1
toxic yacht
I don't think that it's a coincidence that he stopped looking super good after he started regularily playing on a shit ping and faze completely fell apart
wary falcon
he said that he doesn't care about his ping
toxic yacht
also, ZP sounds like he's saying Fucky
wary falcon
but it affects his perfomance badly
toxic yacht
instead of funky
and timo is throwing on sombra
almost lost the point twice because of his throws
ya, he has stated that he doesn't give a shit about his ping
which is lol, because it 100% affects him
tight vault
so chances of south korea winning again?
toxic yacht
pretty high
toxic yacht
basically, either they have 2 things that are likely to make them lose
wary falcon
and bought good PC too
toxic yacht
either the group stages
or their game vs rogue
group stages because they'll have almost zero time to practice and jell well, game vs rogue because it's motherfucking rogue
I still think that it's likelier that rogue wins though
solid spear
Depends a bit on how meta is by WC
toxic yacht
I really don't think that rogue is going to fall apart with a meta shift
solid spear
I didnt say theyd fall apart
toxic yacht
the only question is konxxx's rein
outside of that I see no reason to assume that they still won't be very good
solid spear
But theyll likely be slightly worse
And that may be all you need when talking about SK
I dont see dive being unviable anyway 
tight vault
Murica vs russia in the finals of the world cup who wins?
solid spear
Neither will get there but...without SDB probs US
toxic yacht
also, wtf
so much zuppehw genji
first 76, now genji
I bet he's like "I'M FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
tight vault
drinking game every time you see someone die in ow world cup tonight take a drink
solid spear
5 minutes of Fragi Rein feelsgoodman
toxic yacht
feelsbad ana again
balmy wolf
Wing "im a free agent for a reason" Haven
tight vault
how long until jeff is on a team
tight vault
so what was the best match from last night's world cup matches
solid spear
@tight vault Sweden/Portugal
solid spear
Its
toxic yacht
lijiang was such a throw
solid spear
Theyre always throwing
toxic yacht
they crushed portugal on hollywood
like, they were fucking mashed potatoes after that map
tight vault
worst match of the world cup last night?
solid spear
They probably practiced the hell out of that map since they knew they had the map choice
solid spear
Aus and Finland ones were both stomps
toxic yacht
just because it wasn't a stomp I won't call it a good game
like, yeah, it was 2-2
but misfits was massively throwing a lot
balmy wolf
Japam vs Spain is the best game last night
solid spear
solid spear
Portugal didn't win 3-1 
toxic yacht
that's because they could never have won holly or dorado, lul
it would never have been more than 2 maps
solid spear
Dorado was close
toxic yacht
eh, misfits played first and second phase better than portugal
which is really all that matters if portugal had even pushed to the end
balmy wolf
Cwoosh and Zebbosai was throwing a lot on yesterday's game
toxic yacht
zebbo forgot how to play lucio
balmy wolf
Chips, Tviq, Mannetan, and Reinforce was trying the best but Zebbo, god
toxic yacht
tviq was fucking carrying the entire game
had a few mistakes like that retarded bomb on monkey
but like, often times it felt like he gave his team engagements that they should never have had in the first place
or at least extended them longer than they should be
but there was no followup
like, I've legit never seen him have a bad day
balmy wolf
Tviq has been carrying Sweden so hard
he almost single handedly bringing back Sweden's decifits
but it wasn't enough
toxic yacht
he could actually have won them lijiang and volskaya
balmy wolf
ikr
toxic yacht
if he hadn't missed 1 pulse bomb in both games
SoOn would probably have done it tbh, lol
gusty notch
balmy wolf
TviQ only tracer :c
solid spear
I love being able to see Tviq flex on all of his heros like Tracer
toxic yacht
yeah, definitely
hero pool larger than the amount of offense and defense heroes in the game right now
can only play tracer
solid spear
Tracer/Genji and Tracer/76 90% of the time 
balmy wolf
still one of the best DPS duo pound for pound
clever portal
What about Rascal and Birdring
wary falcon
i think Akm+tviq is the best duo
toxic yacht
now tviq is just losing on misfits
balmy wolf
why cant tviq be french
toxic yacht
solid spear
Did Tviq really lose in the trade when hes in owl 
balmy wolf
either that the team needs to be mixed again, or something has to change with
the whole Swedish only roster is not working well
toxic yacht
I still think that you should put nevix back on support and have zebbo back on lushio as long as he doesn't throw like earlier today
balmy wolf
or bring back a real lucio shotcaller.
Vonethil?
assuming he isn't throwing like he did on Fnatic
clever portal
Zave was the problem
toxic yacht
I mean, zebbo was calling back when they won the OW Open, so I think that there is potential there
But like, they aren't bad players, they just don't gel well
at all
toxic yacht
tviq being the only carry tier person on the team also doesn't help
balmy wolf
they traded for Mennetan because they thought he was good
but he is a supportive player at best
toxic yacht
probably because there aren't too many swedish off-tanks
solid spear
I mean if they insist on all Swedes
toxic yacht
atm I can only instantly think of zebbo and manneten
solid spear
Who are you replacing him with
Unless you move Zebbo to offtank, Nevix to flex support and get a new dps
toxic yacht
my thoughts were zebbo to lucio, nevix to support, cwoosh to projectile and tviq to hitscan
solid spear
So Tracer
toxic yacht
But I dunno, after seeing zebbo's lucio today
no, to hitscan
I'm talking about the metas overall
tracer won't be an instalock forever
under which circumstances tviq can then play pretty much the entire hitscan roster at a stupid high level
solid spear
Me and Reign were saying that Mendo would make sense but idk how theyd feel about that
Cuz with Mendo and Tviq they can play whatever the hell they want cuz of how deep their pools are
balmy wolf
Misfits maybe should look for KR imports tbqh
toxic yacht
fuck, I didn't see the typo long enough
solid spear
I mean they wont even bring in other English speaking players let alone Koreans lul
balmy wolf
or Carpe instead of AKTM
toxic yacht
or you just clone tviq
solid spear
Ew
balmy wolf
wow you really just cant spell manneten can you reign lmao
toxic yacht
<.<
balmy wolf
I mean I barely mention the guy unless I want a roster change
either way, needs to do a roster overhaul. And they have the capital for that shit
they are EU's NRG at this point
toxic yacht
ya, I feel like this "let them gel" approach has outstayed its welcome
solid spear
At least Misfits is T2 EU 
toxic yacht
like, I appreciate how they won't just instantly drop people
like NA teams would
but they've been failing since what, december?
solid spear
Zave was the problem
toxic yacht
although, they did play well during apex
toxic yacht
which is why I still believe in nevix on support
balmy wolf
especially when teams that are better than them got unsponsored
was lucky that Miami Heat gave them money
toxic yacht
they also did well in their first match vs LH at IEM
like, the first two maps were draws
and LH only won because they were better at koth
solid spear
I want my Movistars back
balmy wolf
apparently the problem with Nevix on support is that he was so quiet that the team didn't even know that Nevix was getting doved on
toxic yacht
wat
lmao
did he forget how to play support after zaprey left?
like, pre-roleswap, misfits was honestly a better team than now
toxic yacht
hek
solid spear
Mineral > Zave
balmy wolf
The times when zaprey was a good dps
solid spear
He washed up
toxic yacht
school ruined him
solid spear
Dont go to school kids
balmy wolf
Graviton Surge
solid spear
He was flames
balmy wolf
Tviq/Kryw/Hidan/Zebbosai/Reinforce/Flippy 
X
solid spear
I was hyped when I heard he was coming back when 
was announced
toxic yacht
then he said that misfits were scared of them
solid spear
But he was washed up
balmy wolf
I mean if was running like a CSGO org they would poach players from 
right about now
solid spear
He knew Misfits was mid tier
balmy wolf
Swedish roster, has people in their roles, etc etc
solid spear
But he was trash too
toxic yacht
Taimou Pharah
well, it'll probably work vs this team
also, depending on how misfits performs tomorrow I may change my prediction to finland/aus
solid spear
Sojum thats what you should want
toxic yacht
no, lul
solid spear
You want thiccmou at Blizzcon
balmy wolf
i wanted denmark at blizzcon
solid spear
But Misfits is gross and Taimou is thicc
toxic yacht
denmark
balmy wolf
too fucking bad they were in a group with france
toxic yacht
dude
I bet the teams
were all looking at the groups
and praying that they weren't in one with france
or south korea
solid spear
Well they got 3rd
solid spear
So they didnt even get a chance to play China
toxic yacht
they were pretty much even with thailand imo
any of the two could have made it as second
solid spear
So thats not even a France thing
toxic yacht
well, being in a group with france meant that you're guaranteed second seed
solid spear
They didnt even get that
toxic yacht
which means that you'll get fucked by the strongest team in the other group
also, what I'm saying right now has nothign to do with denmark specifically
solid spear
And the team that got 2nd got 4-0d by a team thats not France
toxic yacht
3-0'd
balmy wolf
reminder that the Shanghai qualifier is trash
production wise
seriously after the shamble that is Shanghai Major i'm surprised Blizz was going to take it to Shanghai
and it showed
toxic yacht
also, china totally got the easiest group on purpose
solid spear
They were 1 seed
toxic yacht
I don't buy that it just turned out like that
mysteriously
hit first seed
right at the end
solid spear
Groups are based on seeding
toxic yacht
also, they have their own SR
that's cut off
from the rest of asia
which means that chinese 4k != someone else's 4k
toxic yacht
like, the entire thing just seems fishy af
like everything else involving china
they also didn't display the top 100 rankings
solid spear
I dont think it really is 
balmy wolf
name a more iconic duo, China and being shifty
I wanted this at Blizzcon https://gfycat.com/BareImprobableCivet
solid spear
I think you're looking into it too much cuz its China
balmy wolf
balmy wolf
nerfdd daddy 
toxic yacht
which cost them their spot
would have gotten a tie breaker with tie fighter land
if they had gone through with his promise
but ya, I loved both thailand and denmark
I honestly couldn't decide whom I'd rather see
Fischer 😢
balmy wolf
I'm fine with Sweden flunk out of this qualifier, if it means that Japan got the top 8 spot
I only liked mickie
I liked everyone on Denmark
Denmark was literally my favourite team
balmy wolf
As I said during the qualifier, they might aswell be Ireland because of how much i love them
balmy wolf
dude, just watch that match
solid spear
Reign is a weeb
toxic yacht
I'm still at dorado with finland vs vietnam
solid spear
Look at his pic
solid spear
Calm down
balmy wolf
I know that Vietnam team was trash but not "we played on Windowed mode" level of trash BibleThump
solid spear
Half the team was
balmy wolf
3 people was in windowed mode
toxic yacht
balmy wolf
like what
toxic yacht
who gives a fuck about input lag?
balmy wolf
this isn't where you play to alt tab to check on your hentai for fuck's sake
solid spear
Reign speaking first hand
toxic yacht
solid spear
No Dafran on Denmark 
toxic yacht
ah, stream ded again
lmao
NICE AUSSIE INTERNET
he got instantly focused
feelsbad
solid spear
Cant run away or heal yourself :<
toxic yacht
like, the moment taimou goes mccree you have half the team or even 4 players
solid spear
Poor McCree
toxic yacht
just diving him
honestly
I feel like nV should start putting taimou on cree
and use him as bait
solid spear
That's literally why McCree is bad rn in 10 seconds