Cringefest
#esports-discussion
pine star
sturdy granite
MORE CUTS THAN A MICHEAL BAY MOVIE
knotty acorn
ESL were better
clever wagon
Of course ESL would be better
knotty acorn
At least there isn't mistimes
CS people give them a lot of lip, but there could be far worse
Look up Gamers Paradise
clever wagon
Can we all agree to blame Banana Culture
toxic yacht
Even APAC production was kinda questionable
pine star
Robert Kraft 4Head invested 4Head in this 4Head
toxic yacht
Not very surprised by this lol
red anvil
lol
edgy remnant
wew gamers paradise nightmare
sturdy granite
๐ ๐ซ
balmy wolf
fucking Horizon
burnt nimbus
Horizon? oh no
gusty notch
new map pog champ
balmy wolf
๐ท๐ด confirm throwing
red anvil
WAT
burnt nimbus
Attacking on Horizon sucks ass
clever wagon
When is Rogue gonna play
empty canyon
horizon is a mess
clever wagon
Horizon sucks ass
knotty acorn
@edgy remnant SOMEONE REMEMBERS
wintry matrix
i'm actually excited for horizon
red anvil
first time horizon is in pro play
balmy wolf
@clever wagon third matchup
pine star
Same
burnt nimbus
I mean, defence on Horizon is shit
red anvil
this is actually great
umbral abyss
same
sturdy granite
i like horizon tbh
balmy wolf
@violet gust not really
clever wagon
Today?
balmy wolf
OGN Challengers played them first
wintry matrix
aside from usual 2cp grievances i like the map
balmy wolf
@clever wagon yes
edgy remnant
mfw no monitors because someone drove off with the truck containing the monitors
balmy wolf
everyday actualkly
umbral abyss
I thought it was a good map personally, just is a bit harder on defenders
burnt nimbus
We're good on 2CP, no more plz
clever wagon
But shit, idk if I could stay. Might go out in a few
burnt nimbus
there are too many entrances to the points
balmy wolf
next match is probably better
burnt nimbus
too hard to defende
wintry matrix
the Thai match seems promising too
burnt nimbus
Prediction: Argentina will get rekt
balmy wolf
Reaper on fucking Horizon? What
pine star
Reaper 
pine star
New meta confirmed
sturdy granite
POGGERS
burnt nimbus
REAPER is BACK baby
balmy wolf
no flex support 
pine star
I'm waiting for that one
balmy wolf
near Arhan blade
sturdy granite
ROMANIA DOING THINGS!
feral solar
the fps arent that bad why is chat making fun
burnt nimbus
can romania stop solo supporting? doesnt work
pine star
not that bad
wintry matrix
expecting reason in chat
pine star
It's actual garbage lol
feral solar
i mean its 50
solid spear
its really bad tf
wintry matrix
it's not that bad
pine star
Arhan reaper ult
balmy wolf
STOP THROWING ML7
toxic yacht
LOL
sturdy granite
HyperLUL
burnt nimbus
NA Blossom
feral solar
hahaha
balmy wolf
ML7 is throwing because someone from China team gave him some Chinese hooker
wintry matrix
i love watching when a reaper is just casually killing people
burnt nimbus
looks like Romania realized double support is good
empty canyon
ml7 must of been bought
toxic yacht
ARHAN
red anvil
Arhan is worse
balmy wolf
what is ML7 doing
wintry matrix
dummy flashbacks
pine star
Throwing
red anvil
Reaper dive meta confirmed?
burnt nimbus
reaper anti-dive?
red anvil
Reaper anti dive dive?
wintry matrix
not really
feral solar
reaper is really good on this map
burnt nimbus
well he counters Winston, and he is the main guy in dive
wintry matrix
on 2cp in general he's good
feral solar
yeah
toxic yacht
Nice 3rd person sword >:[
burnt nimbus
Widow aint dive friend
balmy wolf
Arhan blade
feral solar
idk about widow on 2nd point
pine star
DASH???????
red anvil
hes just completely denied
pine star
DASH????????????????????
clever wagon
Did they just add that score overlay on top?
balmy wolf
@feral solar it is more applicable than you think. My team run her a lot
red anvil
no the score overlay was there before
toxic yacht
Arhan?
lol, they were so focused on stopping genji
The entire team just killed them
pine star
CN grills
solid spear
toxic yacht
Cute girls are cute guys
feral solar
you are cute
wintry matrix
solid spear
cute boys
toxic yacht
Lmfao
feral solar
hahahahaa
pine star
How the hell can Soe be so cute? 
toxic yacht
Soe is female Jesus
pine star
S T Y L E D
feral solar
she is super cute
feral solar
clever wagon
Where are my pitchforks and torches
wintry matrix
clever wagon
I need 122mm artillery cannon stat
pine star
๐ซ delet
balmy wolf
Widow not working 
toxic yacht
I kill
balmy wolf
zoning Widow
red anvil
Blizz Zoe was slaughtering the creepy twitch chat prior to the match
pine star
lmfao
knotty acorn
AC130 ABOVE
pine star
gg
solid spear
Zoe 
clever wagon
Wait what
knotty acorn
Soe don't give a shit
buoyant edge
Zenyatta spin to win
balmy wolf
this stall ResidentSleeper
pine star
ggez
umbral abyss
gg
toxic yacht
Another sword
feral solar
red anvil
China wins orly? ๐
burnt nimbus
I dont want to say gg ez, but it was gg ez
clever wagon
IMT and Rogue's 2CP
balmy wolf
now to pray for a CN full hold so that we can move on to the next map ๐ด
buoyant edge
Eileen mvp
toxic yacht
Now we know why Shadder didn't wanna play ๐
balmy wolf
and also not even using Maxnomic chair
clever wagon
Oh yeah
pine star
Right
clever wagon
No gaming chairs
red anvil
LOL
clever wagon
Confirmed
red anvil
China torture chairs
solid spear
yum
sturdy granite
Moon subs just dropped in, + 7K
pine star
Promising
burnt nimbus
yea I hope it does
solid spear
30K people watching China stomp Romania while EU contenders get 12 views 
pine star
And it's in an unwatchable timezone
burnt nimbus
I really like that the OW world cup brings more attention to the esport scene
sturdy granite
We'll see, cause it's 12-3am in NA right now, I'm heading off soon
gusty notch
with the other streams it reaches well over 30k
balmy wolf
burnt nimbus
yea it's 4 am for me
balmy wolf
HK vs Iceland might be good
buoyant edge
3am ftw
toxic yacht
Surefour streaming during a tournament, why isn't a certain person complaining? ๐
sturdy granite
@burnt nimbus Where u at?
pine star
S4 confirmed shit
balmy wolf
@rapid oxide
pine star
๐
toxic yacht
lol
wintry matrix
y'know what i'll try to stay awake to see the whole thing, i need to reset my sleep anyway
burnt nimbus
South america
feral solar
s4 is streaming, fuck seagull
toxic yacht
the sound wtf
sturdy granite
ah, that makes sense
solid spear
I mean I dont think pros should stream during touneys but theyre allowed to do whatver they want
wintry matrix
Sure "i'll support esports" for
toxic yacht
I don't give a shit tbh
pine star
DoA 
toxic yacht
Streamers have schedules
red anvil
Norway 
pine star
Did DoA just leaked new map?
solid spear
idd and Seagull do it all the time but its like they can do what they want theyre notobligated to do anything
wintry matrix
and the people who are watching these streams prob wouldn't watch esports anyway
what doa said?
solid spear
plus yeah a large portion of Seagulls fanbase especially probably wouldnt watch the tournaments regardless
sturdy granite
Remember Code7 vs Envy?
toxic yacht
lol
balmy wolf
please full hold so that we can move on to the next fucking map
pine star
lmfao that match
pine star
lmao DoA
clever wagon
Emka and ML7 still feeding hard ResidentSleeper
red anvil
Will Romania be able to even pass the tunnel?
wintry matrix
i rememr the previous WC where every fight was a team kill regardless of who won
red anvil
and deffo i wouldent join this team if i was shader 
toxic yacht
ESCA LUL
balmy wolf
this is when BO5 actually is more preferable than 4 maps series
but blizzard wants everyone to see their map types
including 2CP
๐ซ
balmy wolf
China is like "let them have some distance"
red anvil
THEY GOT TO THE TUNNEL
pine star
LOL my thoughts exactly
burnt nimbus
THEY GOT TO TUNNEL
balmy wolf
basically have some mercy before killing them outright
burnt nimbus
BLESS
wintry matrix
the four-set does seems better suited for long-running championships
sturdy granite
Rip COL
toxic yacht
lol
pine star
FeelsGoodMan READY FeelsGoodMan FOR FeelsGoodMan THE FeelsGoodMan NEXT FeelsGoodMan SLIDE FeelsGoodMan
sturdy granite
๐ข
wintry matrix
that was brutal
velvet scarab
as expected
wintry matrix
i hope that says more about china than romania tho
balmy wolf
team ๐ท๐ด is like "why am I here"
umbral abyss
So is romania out now?
wintry matrix
no
solid spear
it says more about Romania just not being a very good team
umbral abyss
I mean if they lose this map
balmy wolf
technically no, but foregone conclusion nonetheless
solid spear
Chinas group is pretty weak though
umbral abyss
Its single elimination right?
solid spear
they should qualify
pine star
@balmy wolf free vacations
empty canyon
romania can win the other matches still to go through
balmy wolf
this is only group stage
sturdy granite
nope
balmy wolf
@pine star free vacation to get humiliated worldwide? lolz
burnt nimbus
Realisticly, romania is rip
sturdy granite
Single elim is like a month from now
wintry matrix
they get paid
toxic yacht
"Why are we still here? Just to suffer?" - Team Romania
wintry matrix
so somewhat worth it
solid spear
Zen died literally 4 seconds into the game
wintry matrix
now's the time to bring junkrat
sturdy granite
I'm just guessing uneducated guesses
pine star
Throwmania
toxic yacht
lol
umbral abyss
wow.
toxic yacht
gg ez
wintry matrix
no junkrat, i'm really disappointed in China
sturdy granite
F
pine star
F
burnt nimbus
F
toxic yacht
F
balmy wolf
F
velvet scarab
F
red anvil
F
umbral abyss
So now Romania is out?
sturdy granite
NO
umbral abyss
sorry
wintry matrix
@umbral abyss check this http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Overwatch_World_Cup/2017/Shanghai_Qualifier
sturdy granite
is ok, this is where the cranky kids hang out
balmy wolf
Chinese trivia: four in Mandarins sounds very similar to "death", so number 4 is consider to be a bad number
in the same fashion as 13 in the West
sturdy granite
pine star
Chinese trivia: Despite popular belief, I don't actually know Chinese
toxic yacht
Chinese trivia: Chinese girls are hot
quasi python
not only chinese half of sea country 4 is omen
pine star
Korean grills > Chinese grills
burnt nimbus
@toxic yacht you mean generally asian girls
balmy wolf
Hong Kong vs Norway next
sturdy granite
Chinese trivia: China is in asia
red anvil
China probably directed all the hotest girls to one part of the stadium
toxic yacht
Asian girls in general, yes
wintry matrix
Girls in general really
red anvil
^
pine star
Not a 15 minutes timer 
burnt nimbus
you know the camera only looks at the hot grills
burnt nimbus
and avoids the 90% dudes and not hot grills
solid spear
Weebs
sturdy granite
Grills
toxic yacht
Says the biggest weeb here
red anvil
they have shown the same row over and over havent they?
pine star
You're the weebest weeb that has ever weebed Oreo, shut up
solid spear
Woah
quasi python
onigod 
solid spear
Pls
burnt nimbus
@solid spear says the guy with an anime character as his profile
solid spear
I lost a bet
red anvil
Pls Norway, make me proud
wintry matrix
excuses
balmy wolf
Onigod went from Reunited to Toronto eSports and now Norway ๐ฏ
pine star
I'm screenshoting this bullshit Oreo lmfao
toxic yacht
Lmao
pine star
Me members
toxic yacht
For 2 whole minutes?
balmy wolf
for APEX S1
vestal mortar
Rip
balmy wolf
lulz
sturdy granite
๐ฏ ReUnited ๐ฏ
burnt nimbus
more than that time NRG didnt suck
vestal mortar
This is getting me so hyped for Poland
toxic yacht
It was from apex s1 until reunited disbanded iirc
It's almost like it never happened though, lul
red anvil
Whens poland?
burnt nimbus
yall remeber harbleu + IDDQD + Seagul? rip
toxic yacht
I remember watching them get fukt by Haksal though, which was fun
solid spear
Lewd
vestal mortar
August 4th I think it's starting
pine star
Really interesting the Reaper picks on Horizon
solid spear
That moment when Harb, Seagull, idd is actually a mediocre core
burnt nimbus
I'm so glad my boy reaper is meta
red anvil
so 3 weeks
vestal mortar
Ya
toxic yacht
I mean, eUnited incorporated reaper into their triple dps dive
burnt nimbus
actually I'm a Winston main, so fuck reaper
solid spear
Not just eunited
vestal mortar
I need to make my Ryujehong sign
burnt nimbus
yea reaper sucks, dont use him cough
toxic yacht
eUnited are my dads tho
red anvil
Reaper is such a solid pick now
pine star
๐ 
solid spear
Damn rip tviq
toxic yacht
Pretty sure that mannetens is their reaper
vestal mortar
One of my co-workers speaks Korean maybe he can help me write something nice.
sturdy granite
27000 EN stream
4800 KR
3200 FR
2200 CH
1700 RU
1000 TH
270 DE
~ 39k viewers
solid spear
He is
toxic yacht
Tviq's tracer is too good to drop, apparently lol
pine star
24k rn
pine star
Wasn't SoOn a McCree main back in the day?
red anvil
yeah
sturdy granite
yep
red anvil
so was esca
balmy wolf
tfw you remembers Soon playing Reaper 
pine star
I member Esca's Cree last WC
solid spear
Well
Most hitscan played Tracer/McCree at least
Now they literally all just 76/Tracer
burnt nimbus
too bad McCree cant really handle dive
solid spear
And not even THAT much 76 as of late
red anvil
they'll probably buff his nade next if dive is still dominant after DF patch
pine star
People started playing 76 only after the buff
pine star
He was basically shit tier before
sturdy granite
Nice highlight reel
solid spear
Well they played 76 in beta ans around launch
red anvil
There is actually a huge discussion about that, most agrees however that DF works best when he gets dived
solid spear
The spread change made him shit til his damage was buffed
wintry matrix
it's prob because people really favored burst befored
red anvil
not when he dives
wintry matrix
only after buff they realized soldier did have a bit of burst
pine star
No "it's in the refrigerator" voiceline in that commercial. 3/10
toxic yacht
He was played until the recoil nerf
solid spear
From around July-November he wasnt good
toxic yacht
Yup
red anvil
Solider is a pretty good state now
not overpicked, not must pick
i still hate his helixes though
solid spear
Well we got 4 characters at 90%+ not enough room for everyone lul
burnt nimbus
he's a good soloQ hero, but not for tournaments
red anvil
7 characters at 90% pls
he is still amazing at tournaments, but it shifts between him and gengu
pine star
We need more McCree tho
burnt nimbus
well since in tournaments dive works so much better he doesnt work as good
red anvil
thats not true at all
solid spear
McCree is hot trash against dive though
gusty notch
soldier not used in tournaments?
pine star
I know
solid spear
And dive doesnt look to be going away soon
burnt nimbus
he is less used
pine star
But we need it
gusty notch
he's used a lot still
idle linden
when does france play?
wintry matrix
bc you know they don't REALLY know that much about the game
after this match
in 90 mins or so
idle linden
nice
gusty notch
time to watch france stomp everyone 
red anvil
Dont let me down Norway
balmy wolf
WOLF and ACHILIOS
pine star
balmy wolf
BEAUTIFU oh wait wrong guy
balmy wolf
this better be better than the first match
red anvil
beautiful winston tracking? ๐
clever wagon
What now
sturdy granite
KINGS ROW YEAAAAAAA
wintry matrix
we seen to be stabilized at 25k
pine star
burnt nimbus
hopefully this game is a more balanced than the one before
red anvil
moar bots
pine star
Bots gameplay hype
feral solar
who is the fav in this one?
balmy wolf
no clue
sturdy granite
gib hanzo plz ๐
red anvil
Norway according to casters
balmy wolf
since both teams only has a few pros
balmy wolf
any link for a twitch vod viewer without the chat?
toxic yacht
lulz, half of norway is team expert
balmy wolf
Onigod with the toggle
red anvil
half? only 2 i think?
balmy wolf
ok thanks
red anvil
decod and invision
toxic yacht
nope, ipn isn't
red anvil
ipn is ninjas with attitude
toxic yacht
made a mistake
pine star
Hong Kong throwing
wintry matrix
everyone is a pro from norway
feral solar
oh god
spring lintel
Hong kong isnt south korea?
red anvil
NORWAY
wintry matrix
now's time to EU shaft Asia
red anvil
ffs that stall
spring lintel
Wtf is this invision guy destroying
sturdy granite
not a bad stagger
balmy wolf
Hong Kong is like "why am I here"
wintry matrix
HNK is only there for the qt bois
sturdy granite
back up to 28K without moon subs this time
red anvil
Moon subs are just memers that usually got little interest in the game
solid spear
Zarya tease 
feral solar
sound arrow
balmy wolf
Onigod with the rocket to the wall
shiet
Right clicked
Hong Kong took their sweet time
clever wagon
Not another one of this ResidentSleeper
feral solar
2 min slow mode
wintry matrix
can't wait for TIME TO WATCH MY BOY ROGUE GET THE KIMCHI
red anvil
LOL
feral solar
usa >
red anvil
HOW
balmy wolf
geezus fucking hell Hong Kong
balmy wolf
Hong Kong has 2 seconds didn't step on the point
toxic yacht
yup
balmy wolf
blade into Trans lolz
spring lintel
My god the come back
clever wagon
Why aren't they using that Transcendence to actually push lmao
clever wagon
Choking
balmy wolf
fucking hell this fight
toxic yacht
BEAUTIFUL TRACKING
wintry matrix
i'm starting to get worried about this caster
clever wagon
What is this, 2CP?
balmy wolf
they has opening frags on a few team fight and somehow still can't cap one of the easier point to cap in OW
red anvil
no cards for HK
sturdy granite
Damn invision
red anvil
what a suprise
solid spear
Complete map with 4 minutes left then full hold...not dominant 
red anvil
balmy wolf
Hong Kong threw rather than Norway just push their shit in tbh
also Achilios better get some lube for his throat tonight
KappaPride
toxic yacht
yup
spring lintel
Damn 30fps is pretty bad
toxic yacht
rip achilios' throat, lul
red anvil
i can ask a friend for his number if you want? notKapaBecauseDeletingMyMessages
limpid estuary
No Kappa for you
feral solar
๐ฆ
balmy wolf
Sombra
feral solar
invision god
spring lintel
Fuck me invision's tracking is insane
sturdy granite
Invision they have families
clever wagon
Damn
spring lintel
What is this, he is 1 clipping them
clever wagon
France is all ready with Twitch assets
balmy wolf
that trans counter
burnt nimbus
the god zen
sturdy granite
somebody didnt watch X6 vs Envy
red anvil
i really had no clue norways team was this solid
balmy wolf
also if this is going the way i think it is, ๐ณ๐ด vs ๐จ๐ณ will be the decider
red anvil
the 6 pros it have
toxic yacht
zebbosai's long lost norweigan brother
balmy wolf
the grill wants some Norway meats on her
toxic yacht
guys, I also wanna be pro
red anvil
0-0
clever wagon
๐๐ป
balmy wolf
like I said, she wants some Norwegian meats on her body
toxic yacht
INVISION PLS
clever wagon
But glad for these EU pros getting some overseas fans tho
balmy wolf
well, it will be the only fans they get so they better take full advantage of it
toxic yacht
like, I know the surefour, mendo and gull are popular in KR
but most popular western pros in asia are EU
also, mendo is EU
lul
solid spear
Well Sojum most NA teams/players never went to Korea
balmy wolf
Hong Kong blew their ult load
solid spear
Well Seagull is Seagull
toxic yacht
๐ฆ
red anvil
Miro is seaguls #1 fangirl
toxic yacht
his twitch is literally A_Miro
wait, libero is a bigger fanboi
he thinks that seagull is the best player (LULZ) and even copied his sensitivity
he picked up hanzo because of seagull
red anvil
i wane see trob on torb
balmy wolf
some patient blade there
toxic yacht
I always find it funny how much genji dominates the world cup
I feel like it relates to the non coordinated nature of most of these teams
so they just put their best player on genji and let them fucc
solid spear
Well Genji is also a super strong hero lul
clever wagon
He does have carry potential at an equal match, and especially so against uncoordinated teams
Not to mention the flashy plays
toxic yacht
I mean, he's stronger than everywhere else in the wc
balmy wolf
the comp with Genji/Soldier is so mis matched that it is insane
toxic yacht
like, these teams
solid spear
I mean like
toxic yacht
ahve no idea how to shut a good genji down
solid spear
Look at these visors
Visor isnt even that good an ult nowadays
And hes getting like 3 kills
balmy wolf
I mean, Blade usually cucked by a well time Trans/Sound barrier, while Visor can get cucked by those two and the DM
so Tracer became a neccessity because her ult can build fast and neutralize those two
solid spear
Winston bubble kinda to
balmy wolf
so running Genji or 76 without Tracer = throw
solid spear
Can block off a lot
toxic yacht
hong kong looking like korean pros
solid spear
And bubble basically has like 9 second cd and DM is always up
solid spear
They're not cute like Effect
burnt nimbus
if dont have bowl haircut you get deported
solid spear
Rip Reigns comment
solid spear
The miku just puts it over the top Sojum
toxic yacht
I'm not a weeb, wot is a miku?
balmy wolf
Chinese stream apparently hit 604K viewers
toxic yacht
whoa
red anvil
LOL
solid spear
Howd you know it was weeb
toxic yacht
DED ESPORT
vestal mortar
Flame is looking ๐
red anvil
WAT
toxic yacht
miku sounds weeby
clever portal
How is the production?
spring lintel
30fps
balmy wolf
solid spear
Lemme find his twitter
verbal cosmos
Why do people call OW Comp dead? It makes no sense
sturdy granite
Where is china viewing?
balmy wolf
gusty notch
604k viewsers what
clever portal
I can't watch today and tomorrow 
spring lintel
How hard is it to stream on 60fps?
toxic yacht
I mean, china has a higher population than the fucking world
spring lintel
No
red anvil
just 1B
solid spear
@toxic yacht https://twitter.com/2FF2CT tell me he isnt a qt boy
Twitter
toxic yacht
like, the world has 500k
gusty notch
is there a link for chinese stream
toxic yacht
china has 5 billion
spring lintel
The world is mor popular ๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
balmy wolf
verbal cosmos
You need internet above 10.0Mbps Up speed to stream at least 720p60Fps stable
spring lintel
Wait wtf 600k views is half of china wtf
verbal cosmos
I would suggest 30.0Mbps Up to anyone wanting to do multiplayer games heavily
toxic yacht
lol
solid spear
what did you think I meant?
toxic yacht
guise, 600k is half of 1 billion
red anvil
wut you need hardly 1 MBps for online games
toxic yacht
no, I didn't know
spring lintel
I just comprehend the number
verbal cosmos
XD how 2 count
sturdy granite
lol maths
toxic yacht
600k can fit into a billion a buncha times
feral solar
ahahaha
toxic yacht
considering china's population, I don't think that 600k is completely unrealistic
feral solar
but yeah from what i have heard in csgo chinese streams are usually viewbotted
feral solar
they get more numbers than english stream in csgo
balmy wolf
so, according to AVRL, counting 3 streams, the number of Chinese viewers is 1.4 millions. But of course, viewbot
feral solar
and theres not that big of a scene in china
verbal cosmos
I'd say about 250K and below are realistic view numbers
gusty notch
no fucking way
verbal cosmos
Maybe even 150K down
spring lintel
Cant wait to see a dark horse genji main
Like shadowburn
The world could always use more genji mains
sturdy granite
Eileen?
verbal cosmos
Where are my pro Sombra players, I need them
spring lintel
Mango got fucked
feral solar
๐ด
verbal cosmos
People call Sombra a bad hero and then you see her win-rate % think twice
spring lintel
No one knew shadowburn before the world cup
toxic yacht
sturdy granite
ONIGOD
burnt nimbus
Sombra is an amazing hero, people just suck at her
verbal cosmos
^^^
spring lintel
Not before the world cup
spring lintel
The previous one
solid spear
no I get that
toxic yacht
before the world up
spring lintel
The first WC
solid spear
people knew Shadowburn was real
toxic yacht
pretty much everyone was all over shadowburn
solid spear
on Weunited
solid spear
well before WC
feral solar
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verbal cosmos
I've been playing Sombra since her release, she is honestly so underrated, playing her head on is suicide, but flanking, cornering, and disabling a team makes her an amazing hero, especially in pro scene
solid spear
people in the EU scene considered Shadowburn a top tier Genji even on Weunited
before OW Open
spring lintel
I want more genji carries
solid spear
theres
red anvil
lol beard cuddle
solid spear
plenty
solid spear
Shadowburn is defintely up there
toxic yacht
ya, I actually first heard of SDB from seagull
vestal mortar
solid spear
from Seagull?
spring lintel
Necro's ults seems sketchy af
toxic yacht
yee
verbal cosmos
I can't play Genji for shit lol, great hero, can't play him
sturdy granite
so much KappaPride
spring lintel
I wonder if he is using scripts
solid spear
it was probably around June when Twoeasy formed Weunited and was hyping SDB up saying he thought he was the best Genji in the world that I really started paying attention
verbal cosmos
Necros definetly uses scripts, way to precise
burnt nimbus
Not Horizon again
sturdy granite
WE GOIN TO THE MOON AGAIN BOIS
spring lintel
It seems like a mix of aim bot and scripts
When he blades
And get a kill, the script aims for the closest person and dashes instantly
toxic yacht
I first looked up his youtube highlights after ๐ฆ mentioned him
verbal cosmos
The playstyle change is to rough wehn ult goes off, if necros played similar all out I'd believe it but nah
toxic yacht
first time I saw him in action was in dignitas vs faze
and I lost my fucking mind
he legit
picked off both supports
with long ragne shuriken
headshots
spring lintel
Where is necro from?
solid spear
But yeah Whoru, Agilities, SDB, Haksal, Cwoosh etc trust me Baaam there is no shortage of crazy Genjis
sturdy granite
TORBRISSA
spring lintel
There's no comparison
burnt nimbus
I love cancer torbrissa
spring lintel
He is either cheating or insanely good at blades
His genji play is okay, most pros are better than him
But blades are nuts
burnt nimbus
lol they just ignored the turret
verbal cosmos
I mean there are some insane OW players man, I've been following eSports like CSGO, and OW has some crazy ass players
verbal cosmos
Yea but theres plenty of that in pro scene
red anvil
geez
feral solar
welp
toxic yacht
shadowburn is also insanely ridiculous
burnt nimbus
BOOSTIO
toxic yacht
but he looks like a human being
verbal cosmos
Like I still think Necros is cheating but I wouldnt be surprised if its insane reaction time
spring lintel
Shadowburn is human insane
spring lintel
But why is blizzard not banning him
verbal cosmos
^^^
solid spear
no proof
spring lintel
He do this shit everywhere
balmy wolf
somehow Hong Kong managed to stall that point
spring lintel
Whats the proof for aimbotters?
toxic yacht
and a bunch of scripts for instant 180s etc
balmy wolf
cheating on Blizzard game is disgustingly easy.
considering there are custom scripts out there
spring lintel
Wow
balmy wolf
people acts like cheating is hard
it isn't
I can get a custom aimbot for 250 dollars
spring lintel
Scripts make this easier but it's not cheating imo
toxic yacht
tac visoring when matrix is up
verbal cosmos
Blizzard should adopt something similar to Battlefield 4's punkbuster, best anticheat tool I've seen in a long while
balmy wolf
I wonder if I should try Calvin/Vansquad streaming style as an experiment, of course with the aimbot
red anvil
tbh OW got a radiclious low amount of cheaters
spring lintel
This makes me think dafran might be cheating
feral solar
VAC is clearly the best 
balmy wolf
can't get busted on LAN if you get banned online
verbal cosmos
It scans game files for inconsistencies, and then scans running files to make sure they aren't connected, made hacking hard
toxic yacht
external aimbots
ow has red outlines
you can write a bot that looks at the outlines
and aims at them
verbal cosmos
VAC is to hard on non-hacks and then to easy on hacks, it sucks
feral solar
i have never even seen how a hack works so i have no idea
i just hate people who hack
balmy wolf
old, less sophisticated aimbots usually has to "stuck" to the game's memory to work, which is why sometimes game can detect them easy. But newer aimbots works externally, so it can't be detected that easy
verbal cosmos
I got VAC banned for leaving my BF4 cinematic tools running while on CSGO, makes no sense
toxic yacht
basically, you put a modified dll into the other dlls
game binaries
it's easy to detect a modified dll though
toxic yacht
lol
balmy wolf
and suddenly throwing Norway capped
toxic yacht
think so
burnt nimbus
ay we got 31k views o EN stream
toxic yacht
basically, memory reading can be detected. having an external bot that reads the data on your screen is rather hard to fuck with
the latter is obviously much more complicated to write, although OW has red outlines, which makes it easier
spring lintel
Cant wait for frances stomp
verbal cosmos
Ehh just create an anti-hack engine like Punkbuster and teach it to source external mods the same way it sources all running programs, easy fix, no hassle
toxic yacht
I mean, you can just change the name of the exe or some shit, you can get around that
sure, works for cheap/free bots
balmy wolf
๐ฉ๐ฐ vs ๐น๐ญ might be a good match though
toxic yacht
but private ones would just get around that
spring lintel
What if they made a pc/console with closed OS that can only run OW ๐ค๐ค
verbal cosmos
omg
peak hamlet
It would be a console.
verbal cosmos
That would be both amazing and stupid
peak hamlet
Not a PC.
toxic yacht
you cannot completely shut down cheats, all you can do is make a cheat makers live hard af
they will find a way
always
verbal cosmos
Just for OW?
red anvil
closed os will be cracked
solid spear
11 ults 
toxic yacht
balmy wolf
Arhan blade
spring lintel
PS4 is yet to be cracked
red anvil
cheaters will always find a way, you just gota be as dicky as possible to the cheat creators
toxic yacht
reminds me of how I almost threw a comp match
red anvil
PS4 is cracked
toxic yacht
ana slept a tac visoring 76
I shot a helix + a few bullets at him
which should have killed him
spring lintel
When was it cracked
red anvil
way back
spring lintel
The last i checked (3 months ago) itwas solid
They are still trying to crack it, it wasnt cracked
balmy wolf
๐ฏ ๐ญ๐ฐ ๐ฏ
sturdy granite
So much for a close match
toxic yacht
the qts are back
red anvil
i think we can just skip to playoffs in group A
solid spear
That's what you think
balmy wolf
i mean Denmark and Thailand both has full pros roster. Meanwhile HK and Romania only have a few
so on paper it should be a better match up
Argentina vs France though
peak hamlet
Go Norway! ๐ณ๐ด
balmy wolf
so how many Asian grills will offer themselves for Onigod tonight? ๐ค
feral solar
opaque owl
grills 
peak hamlet
cmonBruh
vestal mortar
๐
balmy wolf
57K viewers with youtube stream
toxic yacht
vestal mortar
You guys will be looking for me in the audience ๐
vestal mortar
๐ญ
sturdy granite
well, its 3 here, im heading off. talk to yall tomorrow about Argentina 4-0ing Rogue
spring lintel
Gonna be honest that girl is cute as fuck
red anvil
Tara in middle of 90 korean fangirls
toxic yacht
feral solar
night m8
vestal mortar
Nighty night
toxic yacht
all the korean fangirls gonna fly to watch jehong
feral solar
and tara
toxic yacht
I hope that agilities stops being drunk
empty canyon
why are ppl saying rogue so much in the twitch chat?
vestal mortar
And my two male friends
toxic yacht
also, fucking agilities
vs shadowburn
@empty canyon team france is rogue
gonna play next match
solid spear
Russia should beat them
empty canyon
dafuq?
solid spear
Tbh
spring lintel
France is the most powerful team in the WC
Has synergy, experience, top tier players.
toxic yacht
ya, I believe in team russia
spring lintel
It would be embarrassing if they lost
toxic yacht
jackie thinks that they're gonna crash and burn though
peak hamlet
Are you just fanboying or do you have something else? @spring lintel
solid spear
Who Russia?
toxic yacht
but well, canada has who I think are the two best DPS players in NA
spring lintel
What do you mean @peak hamlet
peak hamlet
I mean, as much as I like to see Russia lose...
solid spear
Idk where I heard it
toxic yacht
Russia has SDB, uNFixed, Rubikon, Norgac, Txao and Forsak3n
solid spear
But Ive heard Canada hasnt been all that impressive in scrims
spring lintel
The best team in NA vs good players put together for a month
peak hamlet
I literally know none of those players.
balmy wolf
At least Team Canada needs to get Bischu for off tank. Mangachu on off tank is ๐ซ
toxic yacht
I know that jackie thinks that txao and norgac are gonna hold them back
unfixed plays for eUnited, very good dps and off-tank
shadowburn was the best genji in the world at some point
still considered to be one of the best
spring lintel
Ik forsaken is a tank
toxic yacht
not sure if he's still the best