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I mean, I don't want to compare it to irl sports
but in irl sports
some of the people
that actually get to compete
it's fucking ridiculous
what he did was retarded but people really exaggerate it theres pros playing OW rn who did far worse in past games, if you trust him to not do any dumb shit on stream it doesnt matter bans up soon
in the paste
as I said, I consider what happened to dafran to be far too much, lul
like, yeah, comp ban is fine
well, at least we can be somewhat happy we don't have pros with public real bad shit
Dafran threw so hard Selfless folded 
but yeah, he technically violated tournament rules
but we all know that blizz wouldn't have done shit if people hadn't made such a fuss
and then they went overboard and rekt selfless and flew carpe to NA, stranding him there
well, blame r/compow mods for handling it poorly
personally I think if people got their angry circlejerk satisfied
things wouldn't spill out
but nope. You has people posting in battle.net and r/ow
basically Streisands Effect in action.

especially due to how long he was doing it
i don't think there could be any way to avoid that outside of dafran not doing it
I WANT MY DAD BACK
not if they has a place to vent and rage about how terrible Dafran is. But at this point it is conjecture.
the internet loves shit to be mad about, be reddit or bnet foruns
a bit later maybe
It's okay Oreo, you'll find a new dad next week
smh you abandoned your original dad so fast becasue he couldn't win
dafran would cast you out
^
Oreo smh
i remember when he was tivq jr
dafran wasnt a thing when he was on fnatic
cwoosh jr
it's kinda like these women who tries to find sugar daddies
and Ive been consistent even though hes dead now
lmao
tfw you're Oreo and no one wants you as your dad
talk about being on topic
Beware Sojum
He may randomly show up again
not me
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We all know how that turned out last time
pls, he's busy
Heh
That's a diversion
better than McDonalds 
Id watch em
hawt
he's not in the world cup, so I wouldn't see him there
@LemonKiwi_ @OverwatchBoston @overwatchleague Do you truly believe that in their " off time" these guys have a life ? Girlfriend ? Hobbies? Interests ?
This is hilarious
he's not in contenders S1, so rip that
28 hours before World Cup 


Heck you Tara reeeeee
tfw I could techincally also go but lul
it is going to be fucking rough watching it though
it wouldn't even be a long drive
weve seen Dafrans face already
I could touch jehong's and sebyeolbe's chests
tfw you finally snap out of being a night owl and now OW World Cup Shanghai starts in fucking 1AM your time
Ahem
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Sojum ๐
Heck you also
7am 
Yeah I'm not watching at 8
perfect timing for me
I wake at 6:45am for work every day so I will wake up just before it starts
@feral solar that's literally perfect
AU?
nz
hek
it's also a really good time for draw
for once in his life
he won't have to stay awake at ridiculous times to watch
I'll call in sick on Friday just to see Argentina crash and burn
lul
yehh au/nz people always have to stay up till like 3 am for most of the tournamnets
it sucks
2am is a good time for me lul
literally if I wanted to watch NA contenders
I wouldn't sleep at night
lul
sorry, mash F5 for NA contenders
That's apex for me
6am 
iirc arny stayed awake the whole night for contenders
mashing F5
apex is at 12 for me
11 during winter time
I had no classes on Friday last semester
So blessed
Could actually stay up sometimes
that would explain why I occasionally saw you
tbh it wouldn't be worth it for me, I'd just watch the vods later
like, during MLG Vegas, half the matches were at 4 am for me
I just watched the vods later
same with the OW Open finals, since it had to be on TV
Idk I just love this terrible game too much
so they decided to massively dick over their stream and EU viewers
I'm still salty
full broadcast with analysts, interviews, cool camera and stuff
were only on TV
since I'm EU, I literally couldn't watch the full broadcast
๐ to eleague for that
and it was at 4 am too!
I love how esport goes from almost dead to hype in 1 day
Pretty funny that there are actually people who believe that Seagull isn't worthy of playing in OWL. Blind anti-fanboyism.
There are more pros worthy of playing OWL than pros that will play in OWL

<3
I want muh grassroots scene
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I dunno if seagull is still fit for esport
Most players on the better teams deserve to play in OWl
ZP and Hex tournies
But his analysis is on fucking point
Chances are all of 72 or maybe even less pros will actually get to
we need those
My guess is Seagull will end up like Krepo in lol
xQC deserves to play in OWL 
xQc 
Never succeed as a player and became an analyst
I wonder this will sparks a meme like "X deserves to play in Korea"
Dafran deserves to play in OWL 
iirc bird has stated that he doesn't wanna analyse or something because he doesn't wanna talk like that
Inb4 NRG buys Rogue
gotte keep in mind
that he's still a person
who plays video games
for 8 hours a day
people like that typically aren't the best when it comes to talking, lul
NRG kicks all players and just flat out buys rogue
but yeah, I hope that we get something melee-like
I mean at least with NRG pretty much any FA is gonna want to go to a team with a guaranteed spot and maybe theyll actually build a decent roster but they dont get the benefit of the doubt
monthly melees always felt like the final stepping stone for NA teams to prove themselves
and solidify themselves as part of the NA scene
it would be much better for NRG to just let Seamoose build a roster rather than fixing whatever the previous NRG coach/manager has done
but then again it is NRG
NRG does not means common sense

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Slowpoke
I already saw it longer ago, just felt like posting it now
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looks like world cup scrims
Thats what he wants you to think
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Ignore the enemy team for the sake of my meming
Lul
I can't even write
I should go to shleep
I was about to point at the enemy team, lul
Shaq lul
all those players apart from tonic are swedish
also, 3/4 are in 123
so, the 3 from 123 are the 3 swedes, lul
wait wot
fuck im tired 2 swedes from 123
tonic is russian
epzz is an FA
probably just some mix... thing they put together to scrim vs
Misfits
it is Team Sweden scrims against 123
Thats what you think
?
123 + Epzz
is there even anyone right now "worthy" of OWL aside from Rogue, maybe NV and SK?
maybe some of the EU contenders team
whoever end up in the OW Contenders playoff is going to get snatch up
not convinced about
or
though
maybe?
prob, i'm just responding to the ideia of someone being worthy or not that people were discussing above
is going to be a dark horse next season as everyone is getting a team house in NA
also slow, but still kinda surprising that disney invested in TL of all people
Faze is Faze, in theory stacked, in practice not
then in lans they upgrade
they has been doing a VP impression for god know how long
with half of their roster in EU
so with the NA move
wasnt faze leaked to be one of the next teams
no?
http://imgur.com/a/y7lYn Above image basically summarizes it. He was in a Discord conversation with some other guys and eventually realized he...
Lui is kicked
is that really leaked or just a meme like taimou s4 stuff
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Rawkus and Adam are gay lovers
well, there goes any credibility this leaks has

but that's what's most important
they said where they were going in the move?
Lui being kicked wouldnt be surprising with guys like Logix, Sinatraa, Retzi, Dafran, Carpe etc being avaiable and better
I totally ship Adam and Rawkus
Thats pretty hot tbh
if it's true guy can't get a break
Move to LA
Eh I mean they could use a better Tracer/Soldier any of the guys I mentioned would be improvements
Well cept Daf cuz contenders season 1 lul
Carpe and Sinatraa make sense, maybe Retzi?
Until Chi gets a team, I'm rooting for IMT
I think NRG is a top 7 team in OWL rn
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top 7 
Any chance LK gets a spot? I Imagine Alicus could get one with his magic
@balmy wolf also I think xqc said something about if its 12 teams he thinks he heard something about it probably being 8 NA
I mean he said players know a lot of stuff we dont so just gotta wait and see
You're late
Shit's annoying cause I can understand what he's saying lol

with PTR you never know
Zarya's been buffed in PTR, lotta heroes can't get out of grav now. Tracer can't recall or blink out, genji can't dash out. (1/2)
how to make sure dva stays in the meta

and genji

btw doomfist neutered
thats fire if its like not a bug and its intended
Changes to doomfist in ptr?
it would make sense cuz it makes grav better against heros with mobility
ptr out but no patch notes?

Ptr notes- We decided our Black Hole wasn't realistic enough, so now graviton instantly crushes anyone caught inside, instantly killing them.
only 3 tanks gonna be 0% usage 
Lmao
I was climbing with rein and hog before last patch too, FeelsBadMan
Match instantly ends in a draw when graviton surge is used
Self Destruct Now cancels all future Overwatch Events, as the world enters WW3. Dva is labeled as a war criminal for nuking a civilian population, and lucioball is canceled for the next for years
Are Zunba and Hoon back? 
Fuck is this bout tha ptr? cmonBruh
real talk I dont think this change like makes Zarya super meta cuz she still has the same general problems but grav is actually not trash against dive heros now
so its defintely good
Member when Zarya was part of dive? I member
Not sure how I feel about it, because grav was already fantastic before, but at the same time, stopping dive seems interesting.
Not really, the problem is that now defenders also run dive, so they counter dive your backline and Zarya is kill
hard for her to get energy this meta too, shes still dive weak
Yeah
if Doomfist is good and people wanna run Zarya with him thatll help her more than the grav change tbh
No poke
meter strike and grav would go well
almost uncounterable tbh
maybe
list one counter to Meteor Strike outside of a really good Sound Barrier
uhh hax?
lol ur right
but doomfist did get a nerf so he will have to require alot more skill
and also the doomfist would have to be very good
I mean I can say the same thing about big bang combo
outside of soundbarrier nothing really stops it
does more actually
you can kill the Tracer before she throw the bomb though
the bomb has 400 dps but it requires more fitnesse
meanwhile the Strike is like 300 dps but has 100% accuracy
I mean the ult isnt that great but with grav its strong
but without defensive support ult grav
- a lot of ults
destroy you
wat
DM
Man I don't remember who did that
mcree
dm is defense matrix right
Cant wait for Zarya to become meta again so I can watch my boi Zunba's ults get eaten again
yep
isnt a tank meta right now
Monkey and DVa
Im referring to like pro scene though
oh cool
and also i see genji and tracer alot
Tracer is very strong as is Lucio but Lucio is good every patch lul
zen
Zen, Lucio, Tracer, Genji, Soldier, Pharmercy, Dva, Winston, and some Sombra
pretty much
that thread probably is real
which leak?
Poor boy hasn't even launched yet
@supple nymph what was in that leak again?
does the ult work like reaper wraith form, as in, there's a timer to activate and you can't activate sooner
You can activate it whenever
apparently eurozone got banned from flamecord
oh Kungarna being bullshit in their claim that they are getting pick up
because the screenshot was from there
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so he deleted thread
Poggers

There are some new hero changes on the PTR to test out. Some of these are new as of this latest update and some have been there for a bit longer. Doomfist Rocket Punch Total distance traveled reduced by about 20% (This change has been on the PTR for a little while now) Seismic Slam Added a new UI indicator to show how much damage it will deal, and how much it dealt. Previously this was only indicated by the default crosshair filling in, but this is only visible when using the default crosshair. The new indicator should always be visible, regardless of any crosshair changes. Also, targeting this ability while in the air is now restricted to locations lower than your current height. McCree Flashbang Now slows targets significantly when they are stunned. This makes them less likely to slide away around a corner or something similar once they are stunned. Reaper Shadow Step VO and SFX distance dramatically reduced. Reinhardt Hammer Swing speed increased by ~10%. On top of the swing speed increase, we've gone through and tweaked many timings and other things about the Hammer to make it more responsive. Overall it should feel a lot better to swing and make contact with enemies. Charge Impacting another charging hero (Doomfist or Reinhardt) no longer deals damage to both characters, but still causes a knockdown on both. Zarya Graviton Surge Now disables all movement abilities of affect targets. This is similar to how Junkrat's trap affects abilities.
McCree flashbang now slow people down
Reinhardt got buffed
increase swing speed by 10%
and of course Grav
Winston 
Wait
its quieter
Not quieter per se
Its just you have to be closer t ohim
well
to hear it
Naisu
Mccree's buff sounds like some nice QOF
McCreee 
I kind of want exact numbers on that though

Impacting another charging hero (Doomfist or Reinhardt) no longer deals damage to both characters, but still causes a knockdown on both.
oh wow
can i bring my dad game banner or is it too soon?
That one is more convenient for DF tbh
He took his time didn't he
@supple nymph
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I hope hes banned from contenders

need context
there was report that Stephen Ross being one of the owner of the Miami spot
but that fell through
also regarding 
all teams in one location
for city based teams
with players where half or more of the players arent from the city or even contintent

@Kellenbeck @NRGgg @Immortals Rivalry requires a close matchup๐ GL @amiller
Savage
Anybody can link me the OWL TV ad?
it's on cow
Hoooly shit everything's just going berserk
I'm in the middle of converting 1 week+ worth of music
I just happened to have it in a WhatsApp convo with a coworker
So I just downloaded and uploaded
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Interesting

What the fuck?
Who's fighting over the mastu circlejerker again?
Also, props to Muselk for calling that out
My blood boils
yes, because everyone must be obligated to be interested in esports or otherwise face death


Carpe, xRetzi, Sinatraa, etc etc
gotta wonder what other team will be in the market soon 
albeit Sinatraa on hitscan is kind of throwing
Tracer is hitscan
and his 76 is
ok?
didnt see it much
very strong Tracer/Zarya player though
Carpe is obviously the best (not banned) option for sure, retzi is a good hitscan player though too
I guess in the case of CLG theyre not in contenders season 1 anyway so ban wouldnt matter but yeah
I'm curious to see why CLG has been sinking money into their OW team for god know how long
and they haven't been anything but proven
and
all holding on to their roster because they has capital to OWL
but not 
Idk could be hoping for a partnership down the line in a smaller city
Or want to get the roster to T1 status with the hopes of one day flipping it and maybe try to get into Contenders and non OWL stuff in the meantime
good luck with that
they need a hitscan first
considering the NALCS connection
they can maybe grab a KR hitscan?
well unfortunately Silk is gone but yeah Carpe, Sinatraa,Daf, Retzi all avaiable
Carpe makes a ton of sense
And there a lot Of free agents in EU as well
yeah I was gonna mention guys like Logix and stuff but
idk if they wanna go that direction
when theres already guys in NA
Honestly i think Carpe will Play in NRG
I dont think so
If The kind Of player which they need
tbh hes just like a better idd though I guess he has the Genji
Its*
there pool is basically identical
No
Iddqd is a hitscan player, Carpe is like Tviq or Flower he can play everything
also Khan when someon asked Harb if they trialed Carpe they he said "no comment"
so you may be right
Carpe is a flex in BK Stars so it is a possibility
He is The best FA right now
cuz he can play Tracer in Tracer/76 comps and probably flex on Genji too
The best Flex Dps right now are Carpe and Seagull (he will Play OWL)
if theyre not bringing Seagull back Carpe makes sense and Harb wouldnt deny that they trialed him
Exactly
Faze may do trials with Bromas or Logix (i think both Of them are better than Lui)
yeah there probably isnt a stronger option for them unless they wanna try out Sinatraa or something
if they can get Carpe they probs should
Faze idk if theyll turn to EU or not
lot of FA talent there as well
moreso than NRG they really need a main hitscan
Logix seems to be a good choice, but idk about getting visa ready before Contenders
Sinatraa can be good on hitscan but requires buyout because he is still in contract with Selfless
Its hard to get a Visa???
daf is eliminated cuz theyre actually a team in contenders season 1
@thorn holly as someone who has to get Visa for US a few time, it is kind of hard, yes
especially if you have no history travel to the US before
SDB and Spree did so it is easier for them
I guess theres Selly too
9/11 fucked americans minds
pls
Selly said he is heading toward an NA team but it has been weeks since the news
so who then
well cant be CLG Silk left this week
I guess NRG is technically in play
Faze would only be in play if the Lui stuff has been brewing for a while which I kinda doubt
it probably has been brewing for a while
OW news always hit first in protalk before seep out slowly
yeah but idk if theyd confirm to Selly he would be on the team weeks ago
thatd mean hed been trialed quite a while ago
I mean at this point, which fucking team? 8 in the Contenders more or less has solidify their roster
the only logical conclusion is 
but even then it is a crapshoot
yeah idk if its even a contenders team
Rogue/Kingarna/Envy/IMT/FNRGFE obviously arent
I doubt RNG would either
and now would be a weird time for Liquid to dump AZK
it could totally happem
AZK has been on the upswing
but I argue that he is still inconsistent
and Shadder/Fury might need another, more consistent DPS to help
@balmy wolf oh yeah I dont think we ever mentioined the Kungarna NRG stuff that fctfctn said
Kungarna being shit with their mouth. What else is new
well I was talking more about
"apparently some of their players are trying to tryout for NRG"
100% think its Dogman
Graviton Surge
Now disables all movement abilities of affect targets. This is similar to how Junkrat's trap affects abilities.
weeew
when this patch will hit live?
i uninstalled game yesterday
@solid spear historically
has been a shit team internally so im not surprise if Dogman is already looking for a way out
I mean
also
its NRG
they have a league spot
why wouldnt you wanna dip Kungarna for NRG
he said some players though...so more than one
Pookz return?
LoL
They probably need a shotcalling Lucio more and Pookz is not one of them
idk who is trying to try out though
well
theyre gonna be able to get 2 supports of their choosing
idk how Dogman/Pookz deal with calling together
Im not Seamoose so this is just me observing the train wreck of NRG
but if youre picking them up together
idk who else would be trying to get a trial
unless iRemix trying to replace Num 
would be shit out of luck if both of them drop to go to
tho
oh for sure
no no were speculating
cuz fctfctn said "some of their players trynna try out for NRG"
I'm fine with
being shit. Babybay and Mykl along with their fans need a reality check. One that is harder than what
was giving to them
I mean
the team would probably disband again if theyre getting poached like this
unless they try and get b1am back
but even b1am got an NRG tryout
c9 died?
??
The tiebreaker match
oh, got it
Probs
well he also said everyone is really unsure about whether or not S4 is leaving
so even with pros
theres some confusion on the situation
wait, so is the taimou leak legit? i thought it was only a meme
yeah also said Jake was looking at hitting up bish for the spot when it seemed like LGE was in trouble
seems like the Taimou stuff wasnt just a meme
and theres may actually be some stuff going on there
Kungarna is like a top 6-7 NA team but I have some doubts about how attractive theyll be to potential OWL orgs for obvious reasons
@balmy wolf http://imgur.com/a/a9Pxh LH coach's discord. 6th is "big orgs named C"

C reminds me CJ
Kevin Chou?
wow

But Kevin Chou's ksv company is not big org in esports scenes yet.
Who cares about it when he can poach LH wholesale
yes.
did people actually say seagull wasnt good enough for OWL?
like that comment that compares seagull to tim and moon, absolutely ridiculous
like they're forgetting seagull actually has played at a pro level and isnt just a streamer
We cant really judge seagull one way or the other atm
we've not seen him in pro play for a long time
that is reasonable
like right now i would put seagull as a backup DPS for a team at best until he derusts himself by practicing in a pro environment more
Please
But here's the pic
hot


@jagged crater Seagull is no better than Tim or moon 
In fact, moon even has better emotes 
Does anyone know when the World Cup games start today 
I'm EST, do you know how many hours from now though 
Combo break er
Ty โค
21 hours 

BabyRage
ffs. how do people watch retards like that
I donno, I see it all the time in league and unless if gets on the front page of the league subreddit, they normally don't get any punishment
throwing is popular in leauge also?
never managed to get into to get so i've never really heard anything about it
Throwing is probably worse in league
Gold/levels of the enemy is decided by kills
Feeding is overwatch doesn't give much to the enemy team
In league it's pretty bad
Lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6n0o3c/lunatichai_second_team_name_candidates
https://clips.twitch.tv/GrossVainZucchiniItsBoshyTime I saw this stream from Lunatic-hai's stream and saw these names that he listed for...
@jagged crater "like that comment that compares seagull to tim and moon, absolutely ridiculous" sounds like a comparison that a fucking filthy bronze that shouldn't concern themselves with eSports would make
Uh oh
Lunatic terrible lol wat
Lunatic Bai
Is this some game thats going to happen?
7/18~4week kr small tourney, 1st round is X6 vs KDU
winner play next match, so-called battleroyal, bo7, final is 8th round
Shang-Hai
Shang Hai-ed ๐
Blubby 
just watched thorin's vid about the owl and i agree with the most points
hopefully he goes more in depth once we have more info
That video made me feel kinda unsure of the geolocation aspect of the league
i agree! not a fan of it either but just wanna stay optimistic
KR spot team owl website
The Seoul team will play 40 games during the regular season, 20 of which will be in Seoul. While the first season will be played in Los Angeles, we intend to start hosting Invitational tournaments in Seoul starting in 2018.
I have the APEX BGM 
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Win the Medal is my favourite

this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xmz8ilfWB0
Clip of the OGN track during Apex that no one seems to be able to get a copy of. Made this to listen to on loop until someone can convince the beautiful geni...
its really hype
Then it grows on you
That music they play when they show the stadium for the first time
And it's a big game

wish i could look forward to the finals
Wtf, this playlist works here
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I actually feel sad
I just saw apex s1 finals intro
OWL will not have even close to the production of ogn
Austria @clever portal

Austria 
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Apex s2 finale was the match that truly got me into OW esport
For me it was Apex S1 Rogue vs NV
I didn't know the history of the teams
But monte and doa were hype af
That split cam of whoru and haksal killed me
That is the best things about LANs imo
When they show the reactions of the players
My only hope s3 final is that LH brings out the craziest of crazy strats
i feel like they are the only ones who does slightly random things in dive
They pull out Whoru? 
When you dont behave at the bar and the bartender needs to scold ur spanish butt.. @EnVy_HarryHook https://t.co/I6jyG3MoPr

any info running around on DH Valencia?
liquipedia is extremely unhelpful
even their own site doesn't have info
lol, I was already wondering wtf was up with the teams
50k paladins console tournament 
@limber pine on that same page
Under the tournaments tab
You can see all the tournaments happening
paladins is on consoles?
lol
at least the console scene there is more succesful than OW's console scene
Theres a 100k pc lan as well
A large prize pool that all overwatch 2017 western LANs 

I must be blind, because I don't see it
yeah I was looking at the first link you sent me
and that still doesn't list teams
just times, which is nice
Are you looking for the overwatch tournament?
Because I think they don't have a stream/schedule to any of the smaller tournaments
Just the big ones
I was just hoping for whose playing
This part was actually interesting:
Saturday, July 15th โ Xbox vs PS4 Finals (Bo5)
A little bit more than 12 hours before OW WC 
Where i can bet on WC?
Pinnacle didn't add matches sadly
Also, any predictions except Rogue-ARG?
Will France win 4-0 or 4-1 
4 games series
so 4-0 or 3-1
or 2-2
but FRA-ARG is boring, 0 chances to upset
I think China is heavily overhyped by people
I'm curious to see the French players emotes though. Soon doing the Charleston dance is going to be stupidly hilarious
france aint before saturday i think?
Winz was salty about the emotes LUL
I think he said "it's embarrassing for the players and the audience"
@red anvil everyone plays every day
14-17 Shanghai LAN Matches
i was messing something up then my mistake
Group A and Group B
Alicus getting ready
`As for Laser Kittenz, Saba claimed, cost has not been a major issue.
"It's all about picking the best deal for us at this point."`
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Alicus gonna announce that he bought enough players for a second roster, and has gotten 2 EU positions for OWL
Alicus can create his own league
Yum
30-man roster here we go 
5 sister teams 
Have them all compete in the same league/tournament and take the top 5
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Aliwatch League
iBP match fixing ain't got shit on that
This isn't your normal match fixing. This is advanced match fixing
does FaZe still exist
yes
thank jebus
FaZe with Lui, Joemeister and Spree
Well not Lui
Hes out bro
Really?
That's...interesting

welp
reminder that CSGO got their jumpstart by skin betting
so this is a rather curious move
how CSGO skins are worth anything anyway?
rare skin = money
rare skins are those that Valve allows officially
so thus, instead of betting actual money
you are betting skins
and you can also get skins by buying keys to open crates
it is a gambling spiral without it being outright gambling
perception is reality
if it looks rare
then someone somewhere will think that it worth money
etc etc
also EFFECT seemingly landed in US https://twitter.com/2FF2CT/status/885506835268096001
Effect is baest
Before anyone says "it's quickplay, who cares" just don't bother. I've been playing a bit more quickplay lately when practicing new heroes or when coming back from a few days off, and I tend to play a ton of 2 CP maps. Due to the nature of quickplay, it's quite a bit more difficult to actually take the second objective on any of the maps. As soon as the map changes to Hanamura, or Volkskaya the attacking team loses a bunch of players because they don't want to bother trying. It's almost so bad that I sometimes wonder why they even have 2 CP maps in the quickplay rotation. Hey Blizzard if you see this, can you provide some stats on the win rates for offense and defense on the 2 CP maps in quickplay?
inb4 not balanced at pro scene
IT'S QUICKPLAY, WHO CARES?
R66 most balanced map confirmed
"Eichenwalde: Attack 46.13%, Defense 53.87%"
why using QP stat even
@pine star Effect is also a filthy Miku loving weeb Tracer main like me so hes best boy
I'm screenshoting this shit
rip
@limber pine the only thing I found it amusing is whether or not Blizzard and Jeph used this statistic and think that 2CP is balanced because it is close to 50/50
in QUICK PLAY
half the time you can get 2 points in qp feelsgoodman
indeed
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20757607399#post-2 Time to send more people back to flipping burgers
Jkap "It doesn't anymore. It hasn't done this for some time.
There is a post coming about updates to the punishment system coming soon"
lol
Koreans takes our jobs, they take our wifes, and now they take our top 500 spots, deamn them i tell u!
Kariv and 4 Envy at 5 
But seriously, he got nr1, nr2, and nr3 u wat carpe

Soultion to mercy mains, bring enough koreans
Paladins more views than OW 
is bc ow dad game
yes ow is dead
where do i download paladins?
"ow is ded esprite 12 btw haHAA"
or do i go back to minesweeper?
i love when people compare the worst wiewership of a game to the bigger of their own game
"csgo major had 1m, athena cup had 1k... ded esport xdxddxdx"
LOL just started watching Carpes stream, its glorious
and indeed, paladins is a succesful game, but it cant compare to OW
"We spent a lot of time with our own financial teams looking at the opportunity financially, and we believe that it is a big opportunity," Wakeford said. "And that the returns will far outweigh the investment."
GL 
.@ATVI_AB stock increases by over $3 between Wed-Thurs following Overwatch League owner announcement.
More: https://t.co/7udUhungUO
will defintely get a spot I feel like
Vace looks like such a Blizz apologist at this point that any and all circlejerk meme or shitpost against OW espruts gets shot down by him real hard
CS ded game too?
Before anyone says "it's quickplay, who cares" just don't bother. I've been playing a bit more quickplay lately when practicing new heroes or when coming back from a few days off, and I tend to play a ton of 2 CP maps. Due to the nature of quickplay, it's quite a bit more difficult to actually take the second objective on any of the maps. As soon as the map changes to Hanamura, or Volkskaya the attacking team loses a bunch of players because they don't want to bother trying. It's almost so bad that I sometimes wonder why they even have 2 CP maps in the quickplay rotation. Hey Blizzard if you see this, can you provide some stats on the win rates for offense and defense on the 2 CP maps in quickplay?
"When a map gets close to 40/60, most players perceive it as balanced. So being within 4-6% of 50/50 is still pretty good."
slowpoke
not that other one, you retards

I dunno, people have become so fucking retarded an irrational about blizzard that shooting any nonsense down seems like a perfectly natural reaction, lol
lulz
"The problem with competitive is that both teams attack and both teams defend. Statistics are nowhere near as reliable and/or useful as they are from QP."
Battle.net, never change.
wish one day i will shit on other esport as people do on ow right now
lol
you already take every chance you have to shit on csgo
<3
also, that's an actual quote
from a user
wtf
So Jeff Kaplan replied to this thread: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20757527371#post-2 ... So I was wondering, can we also get the comp winrate ? It's kinda ultimately meaningless for us I guess but I (and others) would be very interested in seeing it
I fucking wish I was kidding

Sojum you underestimate them
lolz
Like a lot of people on there are straight retarded
other esport trigger me more @toxic yacht
well, the guy got downvoted
which is at least nice
wot, there is something that triggers you more than counter strike?

Every game that's not OW 
Quake Champions 
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