esports-discussion

[wary falcon]

New Quake has 1kk prize pool

such passion

[rapid oxide]

[wary falcon]

much wow

[charred wraith]

and it shows the growth and investment

[clever portal]

If league took dota style prize pools

[rapid oxide]

the passion lmao

[clever portal]

It would have more than dota

[toxic yacht]

it's the passion guise

[rapid oxide]

top kek of the day

[wintry matrix]

i dunno about last year's qualifiers

[toxic yacht]

ow, the game that's out for a year

has low views because of passion

[wintry matrix]

i've only started watching the WC proper

[jagged crater]

didnt expect world cup to start so soon

[toxic yacht]

nothign to do with the age

[charred wraith]

Not really League is for fun while dota is more competitive

[clever portal]

I recommend you check out how DotA gets their prize pools

[toxic yacht]

or the fact that blizzard put the scene to a standstill

[charred wraith]

Through the players

[wintry matrix]

are you guys really going for the bait?

[jagged crater]

$$$

[wary falcon]

yes

we don't have any games to watch

[jagged crater]

CSGO stopped doign the esports cases

[charred wraith]

Its not a bait I genuinely think that dota is one of the best esports if not the best

[toxic yacht]

I already said that I'm not taking it, dunno why the rest of the channel is

lol

[jagged crater]

valve still drops the $1 mil majors

not as big as dota's internationals

but nice chunky prize pool

[solid spear]

if anything OW was on a really upward trajectory prior to OWL announcement

[clever portal]

Pls valve, buff cs

[wary falcon]

cs is ded game

[solid spear]

and might return to that when it actually starts

[rapid oxide]

pretty much

[toxic yacht]

@solid spear no logic, only bait

[charred wraith]

And an esport is judged by its worth by the passion by the players and competitors

Not corporate bullshit like league

[toxic yacht]

wat

[solid spear]

[jagged crater]

I dont even play CSGO anymore but I still prefer to watch CSGO over OW

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[wintry matrix]

OW esperts died the day Runaway got separated

[toxic yacht]

because kaiser ate the grapes

[solid spear]

it died with Dafran

[clever portal]

Runaway

[toxic yacht]

that's why it's dead

[wary falcon]

its worth by the passion by the players and competitors

[charred wraith]

OW esports died the day it was born cause its a casual game

[wintry matrix]

[toxic yacht]

and because dafran got banned

[solid spear]

I want my dad back

[wary falcon]

offensive airhan is offensive

[toxic yacht]

your dad is fake and gay

[clever portal]

I'll call you when rocket league takes over dota

[charred wraith]

That will take a while

so go ahead

[solid spear]

Sojum pls

[charred wraith]

https://twitter.com/NewzooHQ/status/864782207164010499

Newzoo (@NewzooHQ)

#Dota2 became the #1 most watched game on #Twitch based on #esports hours watched last month, w/ 32.2M hours. Post: https://t.co/GhdvpGVIVu

Likes

133

Twitter

[wary falcon]

i prefer version about deadborn over fake and gay

[charred wraith]

10th place LUL

[toxic yacht]

WHY ARE YOU GUYS TAKING THE BAIT

[wintry matrix]

smh you guys sleeping on Stardew Valley esports, the only esport for true man

[charred wraith]

Its filled with people cheesing their way to 1 mil through halloween

[jagged crater]

just a much easier game to watch

and hype around

[toxic yacht]

he isn't even here to discuss, literally just came with a preconcieved notion and wants to gloat because of it

lul

[wary falcon]

this graph is fake can't see paladins on list

[rapid oxide]

taken during kiev major while lol did nothing

lmao

[wintry matrix]

as for me, there's a wonderful function called block

[wary falcon]

ban him

[clever portal]

Can someone explain why for valve games people only watch the esports?

[solid spear]

no pls

[clever portal]

Without esports their views are really low

[charred wraith]

Because the esports is the best bit

[solid spear]

2 Genders is right

[charred wraith]

and a major beat the lcs before in views

[solid spear]

the scene died with the Jeff post

[wintry matrix]

wait, valve games really only have esports views? is that true?

[solid spear]

Paladins is looking crisp

[wary falcon]

some kind of

Valve esports = betting

[clever portal]

It's in general imo

[wary falcon]

before dota2lounge and csgolounge deaths

they have really huge views

[clever portal]

Without the esports no one is watching streams

[wary falcon]

had

[charred wraith]

have*

[wary falcon]

they had

[charred wraith]

they have*

[wary falcon]

tier 2-3 cups

[toxic yacht]

ya, getting rid of betting

killed the lower tier csgo scene

[wintry matrix]

that's interesting

[wary falcon]

hey discord deleted my message

[clever portal]

Like look at the graph

[wary falcon]

i called him f a g g o t

btw

[rapid oxide]

without bets no one will watch cs

[toxic yacht]

or at least made the views much lower

[charred wraith]

I'm comparing the largest tournaments of each game

[clever portal]

Huge esports chunk

[toxic yacht]

ya, this server auto deletes some messages

[wintry matrix]

comparing to OW and pubg where most views are casual

[wary falcon]

ohh PUBG ESPORTS

are you ready?

[clever portal]

I don't bet on cs

[warm totem]

xd

[toxic yacht]

the "largest tournament" had a 300k prizepool and got 100k+ views

4 months

after release

lol

[rapid oxide]

wait for the next game trend and pubg will die

[solid spear]

hater

[toxic yacht]

OW ded gem guise

it's shit esporati

[wary falcon]

it is

[charred wraith]

same with H1Z1

[wintry matrix]

as much as i'm interested in battle royale as esports, i have to admit i don't see them being successful

[limber pine]

E S P O R T S

[wintry matrix]

would like to be proven wrong

[solid spear]

Hi

SOE

[wintry matrix]

esports are entertaining

[charred wraith]

PUBG esport are like Hearthstone as an esport lol

[clever portal]

Mod in chat, run while you can 2 genders

[solid spear]

OWL is cool

[wary falcon]

esports are entertaining

ever watched WORLD OF TANKS?

[charred wraith]

actually overwatch isn't quite shambolic

[limber pine]

how long do PUBG games last

[charred wraith]

why do you think he talks about literally every esport when he says that

[wary falcon]

my PUBG games lasts around 2 minutes

[charred wraith]

now I can see why you are so salty

[wintry matrix]

they take a while

[limber pine]

*normal PUBG games

[toxic yacht]

I love esports guys

http://news.gamescom.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Soe-3_sml.jpg

[wary falcon]

i'm salty? why?

i have 20 mins in pubg

deleted it 2 months ago

[charred wraith]

Well you tried to call me an insult which proves you lose the argument

[wintry matrix]

pubg prob sucks alone

it's like a camping simulator

[wary falcon]

because you are fa g g ot

that's why i insulted you

[charred wraith]

If PUBG was a team esport it could be good

[rapid oxide]

[clever portal]

Looks fun with friends

[rapid oxide]

S O E

[wintry matrix]

yeah

does anyone have that taimou in the bathroom photo?

[wary falcon]

send me

[charred wraith]

if its a free for all fuck fest it will be awful

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/SurvivorOW/status/885107469768413184

Survivor: Overwatch (@SurvivorOW)

Multiple orgs not part of OWL have pressured their players to re-sign contracts under guise that they have OWL spot. Flipping players = no.

Twitter

[charred wraith]

un organized esports are usually trash such as league's one shots and hearthstone's rng

[solid spear]

SOE

[charred wraith]

They need a solid structure imo

[wintry matrix]

prob what alicus talked about

it sucks that there's prob worse shit going behing than scenes than the denial org

wait, is survivorow trusted in these things or is just a meme profile anyway?

[clever portal]

I think it's legit now

Probably an insider

[rapid oxide]

he leaked owl reveal

so i guess it's a lil bit legit

[limber pine]

TBF

a lot of people leaked it/knew

[clever portal]

Wonder what happened to the websites who leaked it early

[limber pine]

nothing

[clever portal]

B A N N E D

[limber pine]

nothing really

it builds hype

[gentle shuttle]

is it true that the payout system for the OWL has been revealed

[clever wagon]

Hm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7r0DwISGv0

Gameplay footage showing old Hog 🔫

[wintry matrix]

i've come to the point where i wished blizzard removed Roadhog from the game just to not be annoyed by the complaints

[solid spear]

They did

[wintry matrix]

xd

[wary falcon]

Is Blizzard bans for deranking?

[toxic yacht]

of course not, lul

why are you expecting blizzard to make their won game playable?

[clever wagon]

They throw bans for anything other than blatant cheating?

[wary falcon]

I just realised that i managed to drop from 4400 to 2400

in 4 days

[toxic yacht]

they'll only ban you for throwing if you're dafran

[clever wagon]

Or if you stream it and let people know

[clever portal]

@gentle shuttle some financials have been revealed

But only what's in the official release

[clever wagon]

Maybe they'll ban you for throwing if you like, send a gameplay footage through support ticket

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clever portal]

You cannot get banned

Only chat banned at worst

[wary falcon]

i emailed Blizzard in season 2

[gentle shuttle]

@clever portal thanks

[clever wagon]

Or tweet directly at @ PlayOverwatch or top brass twitters

@wary falcon what did you email them

[clever portal]

Pls no ban blizz

[solid spear]

Its not fair

[wary falcon]

about how shitty their game is

they replied me

don't remember exactly what

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/JoshNissan/status/885060018843856896

Joshua Nissan (@JoshNissan)

https://t.co/jezsm7P401 "additional features" link
The day PUBG gets demo/replay functionality before Overwatch
What a fucking meme dude

Likes

141

Twitter

Mad cuz bad at both OW and CSGO?

[wary falcon]

he is actually one of the best IGL in NA

and was top-5 player NA

[rapid oxide]

NA lul

iBP never won anything relevant tbh

[toxic yacht]

not our fault that you're trash at OW steel

¯_(ツ)_/¯

at least AZK has found success

[rapid oxide]

And Dafran

[clever wagon]

"if he reels you in the fat bastard practically gives you a hug and then lets you ride off into the sunset."
This made me giggle

[solid spear]

.-.

[rapid oxide]

CSGO match fixing, barely master, stream PUBG

He's more meme than OWL

[clever wagon]

I mean it's also a fact that a game from a company claiming to rake in $6 billion last year and managing to get high bid values from investors still doesn't have proper replay feature 14 months after release

Well, I'm just hoping it's SoonTM

[solid spear]

bring back Lucioball

[wary falcon]

NA became meme after iBP ban

[pine star]

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/885193185932312576

Thorin (@Thooorin)

It's one thing to be sceptical about OWL due to how difficult success will be, but there's so much spite from other games.

Twitter

[wary falcon]

iBP had great potential

[pine star]

[wary falcon]

especially after +hiko and under EG tag

rip dream*

[toxic yacht]

thorin is right, lul

there is so much salt

about OW specifically

I have no idea what it is

maybe it's the speed at which the scene grew, or the more casual nature of the game

dunno

[wintry matrix]

game exploded in popularity + bliss silence and missteps + internet =

[toxic yacht]

but the amount of salt is fucking ridiculous

lol

[clever wagon]

France sponsored by HP?

[balmy wolf]

more like World Cup sponsored by HP

[clever wagon]

Hmm

[balmy wolf]

also

I missed the great bait

feelsbadman

OW esport is a joke but you just has about a couple of hundred of millions into their acc from all the franchising

🤔

also fuck me https://puu.sh/wHRnS/a8e4594e4e.png

[limber pine]

must have been something juicy

i usually get that many when OWCJ gets ahold of something I did

[balmy wolf]

it was the Nate Nanzer video thread lol.

I found a lot of curious replies though

this one for example https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6mtj25/7_teams_revealed_by_nate_nanzer/dk4oeus/?context=3

[north beacon]

I can't watch videos right now - are the OWL teams going to have names?

Or are they just going to be called by their city name

[balmy wolf]

just city for now

[north beacon]

Ah

[clever portal]

Unknown

They just have owners

[limber pine]

Milwaukee Kungarna

nope, that just sounds weird

[balmy wolf]

Boston Kungarna

[north beacon]

we need a San Diego team so they can eventually move away to LA

[balmy wolf]

Liquid or C9 might get San Diego tbh

I just want a team in TX

[north beacon]

LA is destined to get two teams

Just like in everything else

[rapid oxide]

Hope in Indianapolis 🙏

[limber pine]

DC

[balmy wolf]

https://www.akshonesports.com/2017/07/blizzard-announces-initial-seven-cities-team-owners-upcoming-overwatch-league

[north beacon]

NY's venue will be in NJ but NJ will get zero teams

[balmy wolf]

just as usual.

[limber pine]

probably brooklyn

[balmy wolf]

"Kevin Chou is a successful businessman who spent years developing his mobile company, Kabam, and selling portions of its equity for $800 million to Netmarbleand Fox. Chou has set up the KSV eSports International, a company which will operate out of both Seoul and Silicon Valley. Chou has informed Venture beat that he plans to create an all-Korean roster support by an all-Korean management team when competing in the Overwatch League.

“What’s important is our plan to hire an all South Korean management team and an all-Korean roster,” Chou said. “We want to make sure people in Seoul feel like this is their team. And the players will represent the home territory. My belief is this will be as big as pro sports in the U.S. with the size ranging from MLS to the NFL.”"

[rapid oxide]

"seven of the initial founding team" owl will have only 7 team

[balmy wolf]

@limber pine Brooklyn Hovas?

[limber pine]

aye

[balmy wolf]

or rather, Brooklyn 444?

[north beacon]

Idk might be too expensive to build out space in NY

Brooklyn's getting expensive too

[balmy wolf]

"While no team owners for Europe have been announced, sources inform Akshon Esports that Blizzard is in active discussion with potential team owners around the world with around twelve teams set to participate in the inaugural season of the Overwatch League."

[north beacon]

They can just use the basement in met life stadium

[limber pine]

are you talking about room and board, or places to play for live events?

[north beacon]

Everything I guess

[rapid oxide]

[limber pine]

cuz there's a difference

obvi

[rapid oxide]

Twelve teams

[limber pine]

so 5 more maybe

[north beacon]

SF will end up with a super team

[balmy wolf]

like how NRG supposedly?

[north beacon]

Poach all the super stars

[balmy wolf]

[limber pine]

Assuming US, probably DC, Chicago/Detroit, somewhere in Texas, another in Cali, and maybe another in Florida

is my guess

[rapid oxide]

Meme aside

NRG could by another team

[north beacon]

Lebron should buy one for Cleveland

[balmy wolf]

Can't wait for the 5 HOURS ENERGY DETROIT RENEGADES to continue the proud tradition of COLLAPSING IN PLAYOFF just like their DETROIT LIONS FOREBEARS

[rapid oxide]

Lebron

I've his shirt

But on Miami

I guess im gonna cheer miami for now

[limber pine]

what are forebears

[balmy wolf]

https://puu.sh/wHSvy/444792f6db.png

[wintry matrix]

the dads of bears

[rapid oxide]

5 HOURS ENERGY DETROIT RENEGADES LIONS FOREBEAR

[limber pine]

huh

TIL

[solid spear]

Meow

[rapid oxide]

e_SportS Multigaming Pro Team

[limber pine]

beforebears

I would totally name my eSpOrTs team "The BeforeBears"

[rapid oxide]

so...

[solid spear]

soe...

[limber pine]

sew...

[rapid oxide]

Soe

i was wondering

if we will have twelve team on first season

[solid spear]

Maybe

[rapid oxide]

we have 5 na, 0 eu, 1 ch, 1 kr

12-7=5

5 EU?

[solid spear]

Highly doubt it

[rapid oxide]

but if we -2

3

hl 3 confirmed

[solid spear]

Lucky to get 1-2 EU tbh

[rapid oxide]

also i don't understand what will happen to APEX n co

kr is relatively small

so you can't cover all the major city

what about AU?

[limber pine]

[rapid oxide]

unless they clusterfuck kr, ch, oce, and sea

[solid spear]

Is there any AU org that would be willing to put up that kinda money rn?

[balmy wolf]

nope

[rapid oxide]

they could clusterfuck kr, ch, oce and sea

and have apex etc.. as 3rd part event

[balmy wolf]

OWL Asia Pacific, OWL Europe, OWL NA, OWL KR/China/Japan

and then OWL World Championship is basically the top 4 seeds of each regions

[rapid oxide]

sauce?

[balmy wolf]

my head.

[limber pine]

spaghetti

but yeah, wouldn't that be fun?

[rapid oxide]

too much logic for blizzard @balmy wolf

i expect some weird shit

[balmy wolf]

what i'm curious is the integration of existing LAN League in Asia

to the system as a whole

what are the team in OPC/Premier Series/APEX is going to do now?

nevermind the drought in the NA/EU scene for the last few months

they are also stuck in this weird limbo that Blizzard force upon too

[rapid oxide]

what happened in EU and NA

disband here and there

who have money will survive

who dont, rip

the pro about this is that we will get more super team instead of more shitty team

while it's true that having the best in each role on different team doesn't equal being a good team

having good people surely increase the chance of being a good team

[wintry matrix]

are they in a limbo? apex is still keep going no?

[solid spear]

Id rather have a full roster with maybe 1-2 new players at most

Than a "super team"

[clever portal]

Apex and opc will keep going

No change

[balmy wolf]

@wintry matrix yes they will continue

but the integration of it into the overall OWL thing is the thing i'm curious about

[rapid oxide]

maybe will be na eu only for the moment

and expand later when KESPA WILL FUCKING DO SOMEHTING?

but i understand they lack of faith on blizzard

[clever portal]

So here's how it'll probably go

S1-maybe 2

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/scr1beOW/status/885197826082394112

Wilson Xu (@scr1beOW)

@AlicusOfficial @Thooorin yeah. it's almost better to think of them as individual players versus being a team rn.

Twitter

[clever portal]

This global tournament

[balmy wolf]

might get disbanded and sold off 🤔

[clever portal]

Not exactly a disband

Simply their players being bought out

As the org doesn't have the money to buy in

[rapid oxide]

really weird considering CEO interest in OWL

if this happen tho

"ow esport ded tier 1 disband hurr durr fuck u blizzard"

im calling it

[solid spear]

I really hope we dont see even more teams disband

Becauae of buyouts

[balmy wolf]

Chips to ??

tfw Team Sweden will be Misfits after all

[solid spear]

I do think that for Boston and New York NV has to be a roster you look at to obtain

We dont know what Rogues doing if theyll try and find a partnership to obtain a spot or sell the roster

[balmy wolf]

nah, I'd love to see Kraft buy Lunatic Hai for Boston

[solid spear]

I feel like Rogue really wants to keep their squad

[balmy wolf]

continuing the tradition of winning and making everyone hates you at the same time

[solid spear]

Understandably

[balmy wolf]

https://puu.sh/wHTJ5/eb079c0098.png

captain planet with the warning

[solid spear]

[supple nymph]

can i be a fan of really good teams

which would be stupid to break up and not just buy the whole thing

[clever wagon]

Rogue is doing a good job being that heel team in the west

I need a good heel figure in my eSports

[supple nymph]

best teams in NA are the ones that have the least NA

[balmy wolf]

@clever wagon that thread in r/compow was hilarious

[clever wagon]

Which one

[balmy wolf]

vs Grand Final

the salt when Rogue won Volskyaya was

[clever wagon]

POst match thread?

[balmy wolf]

during

[supple nymph]

even rogue at their worst are more betterer than every other team

[balmy wolf]

more worser

do you English

[supple nymph]

?

[clever wagon]

Day 3?

[balmy wolf]

@clever wagon yes

[clever portal]

Toxic reignwolf

[supple nymph]

there is gonna have to be an all KR OWL team to beat rogue

[solid spear]

I thought that was intentional

And there will be an all KR team in all likelyhood

Dont see why the the Seoul team wouldnt be a Korean team

[supple nymph]

they might pick up taimou

(waits for Reign reaction)

[balmy wolf]

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/OverwatchBoston

Overwatch Boston (@OverwatchBoston)

Official Twitter account of Boston's Overwatch League team.

Tweets

2

Followers

297

Twitter

[limber pine]

i'd be cautious of unverified accounts

[rapid oxide]

https://www.thescoreesports.com/news/14755

[clever wagon]

... I have something to say but everybody will point their guns and say I'm circlejerking again

So nvm

[limber pine]

we're all adults here

well...I am

[gusty notch]

who cares lol

speak ur mind

[pine star]

@limber pine didn't Kraft retweet them?

[limber pine]

no clue

i retract if true

[pine star]

Seija toxic

[balmy wolf]

There is no Robert Kraft twitter

so you got bamboozled

[rapid oxide]

[clever wagon]

I'll give you the favor by pointing my own gun to myself

🔫

[rapid oxide]

[clever wagon]

Because I shall keep my pessimism and lowkey call them out at times so when they finally do eSports good I can be happy and I wouldn't have anything to lose if it crash and burn

[zealous girder]

Kraft Group: Rich Org
New York Mets: Rich Org
Miami Heat (Misfits): Rich Org
Sacremento Kings (NRG): Rich Org
Immortals: ???

As far as I know Immortals does not have any gigantic investors and LA is a prime spot, so I'm a little surprised that Immortals got it.

[clever wagon]

They have backing too

[rapid oxide]

stay positive seijia

[clever wagon]

AEG

[rapid oxide]

if its gonna fail

im gonna hug and cuddle you if you want

gayyyy

[pine star]

@balmy wolf Kraft Group, not Robert

[solid spear]

Sulli doesnt hug me

[rapid oxide]

i can hug you

[clever wagon]

@zealous girder this AEG

http://www.aegworldwide.com/

[rapid oxide]

i give free hugs

[pine star]

Fuck you Oreo

[solid spear]

[pine star]

You rejected me earlier

[rapid oxide]

[solid spear]

Sulli pls

[zealous girder]

@clever wagon Oh damn

[pine star]

Oh wait no

[clever wagon]

That's a lot of names and it's no joke to secure LA, so

[pine star]

It was Patriots who retweeted them

[clever portal]

Yeah, they have money

[clever wagon]

Explains all the money

[pine star]

https://twitter.com/Patriots/status/885109877193965568

New England Patriots (@Patriots)

Welcome to the family! https://t.co/ryXFkLtP6k

Retweets

156

Likes

634

Twitter

[limber pine]

yeah, and I noticed some blizz people + Griff is following them

[clever portal]

Spriteguy name change?

[limber pine]

so I guess it's g2g

[clever portal]

Reformed?

[limber pine]

no I'm a forebear

not sprite

[clever wagon]

Fore-- uh

Uhm

[clever portal]

@rapid oxide Rachel > Soe

[supple nymph]

when is the kyky ama? we wont tell anyone SG trust us

[pine star]

@clever portal delet

[limber pine]

i don't know

technically he's not contacted us

@supple nymph

[clever wagon]

e-d is more trustworthy than Trusted itself trust me

(That's a lot of trusts, do you trust me now)

[pine star]

No one trusts you Gank

[clever wagon]

🔫

Mfw chiGun no longer global REEE- oh wait

Works without : with betterdiscord...

[pine star]

No better discord in phone

[clever wagon]

2:22 AM now what am i doin

[pine star]

2:22 PM here

[wary falcon]

I'm frustrated. Is ow still dad gaem?

[limber pine]

ha now I know where McSullivan lives

[clever wagon]

DAE????

[pine star]

Where? @limber pine

[wary falcon]

03:23 am here

[limber pine]

West

[clever portal]

@clever wagon the new chigun

[limber pine]

of me

[pine star]

I live in Colombia lol

It's not like it's been a secret

[limber pine]

west and really far south

[pine star]

really really far south

[clever portal]

Jackie lul

[zealous girder]

@clever wagon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschutz_Entertainment_Group

Holy shit ,the world's largest owner of sports teams and sports events they own so many sports teams and events and stadiums and arenas it's insane, even LA Lakers.

Immortals rich af god damn

[clever portal]

Atleast OWC will be at good times for you

[supple nymph]

is that a real logo

[limber pine]

sure

[clever portal]

Looks old

[limber pine]

from like 1940

[supple nymph]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GD6qtc2_AQA/maxresdefault.jpg

[clever wagon]

NRG and Immortals should duke it out, Sacramento Kings vs AEG who win

[zealous girder]

For a company so rich their website and logos are trash

[clever wagon]

There's nothing wrong with keeping an old logo for such a big company tho

[zealous girder]

I suppose so

But thanks for the info, when i googled AEG earlier I kept getting linked to some german company that ceased to exist, so I was confused how Immortals had backing hahaha

[pine star]

Berlin Immortals

[supple nymph]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6mwaad/disney_invests_in_team_liquid_ownership_group/

[limber pine]

YOU GUYS WANTED OWL NEWS

WELL HERE YOU GO

ALL DAY

BAM

[supple nymph]

stop being fascist

[pine star]

THIS IS SHIT OWL IS DED REEEEEEE

[clever portal]

Liquid

Didn't C9 get some as well

And VP got 100 million

[toxic yacht]

WTF

HOLY FUCK

LIQUID

still leaving for dem quake monies now?

👀

[rapid oxide]

That's not an owl news

There's no mention of owl

[toxic yacht]

[rapid oxide]

@clever portal

[toxic yacht]

tfw I don't click on a link

once in my life

and get bumfucked for it

[clever portal]

Why can't we have reactions here?

Bronzing people is fun

How?

[toxic yacht]

yes

[clever portal]

Did you sleep with the mods?

[toxic yacht]

secret

👀

[clever portal]

Am I half banned?

[toxic yacht]

lul

[clever portal]

Emote silenced?

@pine star

https://esports.movistar.es/overwatch/entrevista-HarryHook-Overwatch-EnVyUs_0_1043895601.html

Pls translate

[limber pine]

that's funny

copy/paste just tells me to go back to the page

[toxic yacht]

google translate stronk

[limber pine]

the first paragraph makes a reference to North Carolina

Charlotte

he must live there

[clever portal]

Interested in the OWL parts

[limber pine]

yeah my spanish is not good enough for that

[clever portal]

NV is in charlotte

Also, how do you react here

[toxic yacht]

secret

[clever portal]

So did you fuck spriteguy or draw

[balmy wolf]

trusted = reactions

[thick cosmos]

Lunatic hai sister team is literally just called lunatic hai 2 wow

[toxic yacht]

"trusted"

[balmy wolf]

So whats an appropriate nickname for OWL Boston? New England Minutemen?

[toxic yacht]

you mean "`"

[clever portal]

Ah I see

Rules don't say how you get it though

I'm guessing cheesy names are coming soon

[toxic yacht]

for some reason the mods won't fuckin tell us the role was renamed to `

for the time being

to quote #rules, "Trustworthy, well-behaved users. They typically contribute to discussion and they also get their own special chatroom to talk about whatever they'd like."

[clever portal]

So mods read read channels and assign it to users?

No mods in here though

[limber pine]

👋

[toxic yacht]

we have draw and sprite

whytro used to come here

[limber pine]

who else matters really

[clever portal]

Hi Sprite

I contribute to discussion a lot here

[limber pine]

yes you sure do

pat pat pat

[pine star]

@clever portal at work rn and the internet is acting up

[clever portal]

No problem

[solid spear]

Dont trust trusted people

Boi

[clever portal]

How do you know who's trusted? 👀

Pls, i get it

[solid spear]

See what I mean look at Sulli

[pine star]

What the fuck discord

[limber pine]

that internet tho

[solid spear]

Spamming

[limber pine]

sorry @pine star i'm gonna have to ban you

[clever portal]

[pine star]

FeelsBannedMan

[limber pine]

[solid spear]

Finally

[pine star]

Shut up Oreo

[solid spear]

Jk I love you bb

[pine star]

You're going down with me

[solid spear]

Wait nu

[pine star]

Yes.

[clever portal]

Oreo trusted

Oreo veteran

[solid spear]

Occasionally mods throw4dafran

Wonder if the big news Kyky was talking about was just the OWL stuff or specifically NV related

[pine star]

They threw big time with you

[solid spear]

^ facts

[pine star]

[supple nymph]

https://twitter.com/AlicusOfficial/status/885195190864158721

Alicus (@AlicusOfficial)

@Thooorin you may want to hit up your contacts because a lot has been happening on that front behind the scenes

Twitter

L E A K

[pine star]

Old

[supple nymph]

no u

[solid spear]

Toxic

[blazing parrot]

was the shaq message posted yet

[supple nymph]

https://twitter.com/SHAQ/status/884755413484228608

SHAQ (@SHAQ)

Happy Birthday to @krispykreme's #OriginalGlazed Doughnut! Join in the celebration on Friday with a dozen for 80 cents. #ad https://t.co/VPqQ3m7MQB

Retweets

212

Likes

712

▶ Play video

Twitter

[solid spear]

Im not sure

Wow Ford

[blazing parrot]

no

not that one

[solid spear]

Kyo which one bb?

[blazing parrot]

https://twitter.com/NRGgg/status/885219411665268736

NRG Esports (@NRGgg)

The big boss @SHAQ has a message for all the @PlayOverwatch fans in #SanFrancisco and all of NorCal..

#OverwatchLeague #OWL https://t.co/P5KOhFUucD

Likes

216

▶ Play video

Twitter

just hype talk

[clever portal]

Thats it

'Trusted' means nothing

Kvo is trusted

Oreo and sojum I could understand

But Kvo?

[blazing parrot]

kufufufu

Disney Invests in 11 Tech and Media Companies for 2017 Accelerator Program

One of which includes:

aXiomatic: an eSports ownership group backed by leading sports team owners that holds a majority stake in Team Liquid, a top eSports team in the U.S. and Europe with 60 pro players, coaches, and analysts competing in nine games, and a minority stake in Super League Gaming.

http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/disney-accelerator-2017-investments-1202491849/

Did i get trusted before you @solid spear ?

[solid spear]

Pretty sure you did

[clever portal]

So I'm guessing not necessarily a large amount

Because it's 11 different companies

OWL needs 15 m+

[blazing parrot]

im sure disney has billions

[balmy wolf]

they do lmao

[clever portal]

Polo is trusted?

[balmy wolf]

Have been longer than every other trusted person in this channel

[solid spear]

Kestler hasnt been here long he wouldn't know

[balmy wolf]

who

[clever portal]

I changed my name to kestler as a meme

[balmy wolf]

yeah i remember from flames

[solid spear]

Its always kestler

[clever portal]

My name is actually arnyftw

[solid spear]

Kestler its ok

[clever portal]

[supple nymph]

https://puu.sh/wHY3C/14a98f9246.png

[balmy wolf]

which soundbyte

[supple nymph]

shaq

[balmy wolf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6mtj25/7_teams_revealed_by_nate_nanzer/dk4tu15/?context=3

what

[red anvil]

How does roadhog tips fare now? Poor lad

must be in a though situation

[balmy wolf]

he's been dead since the nerfs

[solid spear]

[balmy wolf]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-12/what-robert-kraft-sees-in-esports-video

He sees some switches that need some flipping

[solid spear]

I think EG is the team picking Kungarna up still

[balmy wolf]

so

according to that video

Bobby Kotick has invested half a billions to OWL infrastructure

[supple nymph]

@limber pine TOO MUCH NEWS HELP

[balmy wolf]

[jagged crater]

is bobby kotick a good person or the devil?

[balmy wolf]

well, he is often depicted as the devil

but if you remember how the whole Brutal Legend bullshit plays out

he is actually fairly reasonable

[supple nymph]

http://i47.tinypic.com/2n7egyg.gif

[balmy wolf]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-27-bobby-kotick-slags-off-tim-schafer

[clever portal]

Very good questions from the interviewer

The answers are all PR though

[balmy wolf]

of course, the only part that i managed to pick out is the part about Bobby Kotick's investment

the rest is fluff

[blazing parrot]

of course its all pr lol

we wont hear actual substance till its hyped up more

[jagged crater]

also just realized emily chang was not a fictional interviewer but an actual interviewer for bloomberg

(TIL)

[solid spear]

Im just really curious

about what is gonna happen with teams

this pr fluff is whatever

but mah players

[clever portal]

Which teams?

[solid spear]

like

all the top teams

[clever portal]

Current ones?

[solid spear]

yeah

[jagged crater]

so there's only going to be 5 NA teams?

what happens to non-OWL tems

[clever portal]

In a year no one will know who the teams were

[solid spear]

like who is getting picked up, who is disbanding, getting poached,what other teams are getting into League before it starts

[clever portal]

You'll only know about the ny team, the boston team

[solid spear]

all that stuff

[jagged crater]

Lets go METS

[clever portal]

Beemo there will be overwatch contenders

Also eventually the league will be NA only

[jagged crater]

hmmm

[balmy wolf]

Still waiting for Kraft to buy just so that the salt flows

[clever portal]

So they'll be slots open for other teams

[jagged crater]

So there's going to be 2 tiers of teams? Tier 1 being the OWL teams (only 7 at the moment, likely more later), and Tier 2 being the Contender teams?

[clever portal]

Yes

[jagged crater]

and contenders can make their to becoming in OWL team? Or is it selected by player basis

[balmy wolf]

nah

Contenders is basically D League

[solid spear]

in the end its still like

[balmy wolf]

no relegation, remember?

[solid spear]

money thats getting you into OWL

[jagged crater]

ok so it's only to get players recognized

[clever portal]

Depends how it works, even if there is promotion/relegation, you'd probably have to pay to get in

[red anvil]

hopefully good players do get there butts into OWL

so it can be actually interesting

[clever portal]

You could sell players, yeah

[jagged crater]

there's so few OWL teams atm, only the best players can get into them

[red anvil]

not a medicore leauge with bucks upon bucks

[solid spear]

Wonder if Kraft and the Mets dude already have an idea and talked about what team theyre gonna try and acquire or if theyre kinda still waitin for Contenders S1

[balmy wolf]

I just wonder

if any team is going to build themselves a team

instead of buying one that is in existing

needs to invest in a good flex support and a hitscan worth a damn though

[red anvil]

is it the swede misfits rooster that is going to US?

[jagged crater]

so what team is boston and new york going to get?

envy and rogue most likely?

[solid spear]

eh hard to say

[balmy wolf]

@red anvil they have the rights to use the Misfits roster if they desired.

[solid spear]

because especially in the case of Rogue they may still be trying to get a partner to get into OWL

[jagged crater]

how does this shit work

[solid spear]

without selling the team

[red anvil]

hopefully they kick some butts out

[supple nymph]

is cam3ran someone here

[red anvil]

the current misfits team aint meh

[supple nymph]

if so im gonna slap them

[balmy wolf]

Cwoosh/Tviq/Mendokusaii/Chipshajen/Reinforce/Zebbosai

[solid spear]

I mean Misfits it depends if they gonna continue with their whole only Swedes thing

cuz I mean theres other European hitscans like Logix, my father etc but only Swedes

Cwoosh makes sense if theyre just gonna play Tviq full time hitscan

and hes avaiable

[slim summit]

is there any estimated timeline for when OWL starts

[solid spear]

late this year

probably November/December

[red anvil]

i'm not a fan of whole country roosters

[solid spear]

why not

I mean if it was a full US roster or a full KR roster we wouldnt say anything

[red anvil]

because simply boring ^^ i want teams to pick from the whole world regardless of native tongue

[balmy wolf]

half of the Rogue's reason why they are so dominant is their French tongue though 🤔

[clever portal]

@slim summit December

[balmy wolf]

and in CSGO mixed roster is kind of rare

most of the teams are either has a similar tongue or from one country

[vestal mortar]

👀

So much news I can't keep up

[red anvil]

Even winz spoke up against having same native language dident he?

despite their current results

i think it was winz

[balmy wolf]

well, he said that having English comm was a way to prevent comm clog in itself

he does not specifically against it though

personally it is all about synergy to me

but KR teams' coordinations are on another level is because their language is more precise than English

hence why you have trying to use more KR comms

outside of English

because some callouts are shorter that way

[red anvil]

"The cons, to me, are huge. Having to play in a non-native language is a natural filter; people don’t talk needlessly and only call the more important stuff in-game and the comms tend to be clearer because of it. I tend to think our comms were better when we had a half-Swedish half-French roster. Just less unnecessary chatter but we can’t deny our current results."

saying the cons are huge are kinda speaking aginst it :p

[balmy wolf]

"Just less unnecessary chatter but we can’t deny our current results"

half of the time Rogue's coordination and focus fire is so well is because they has one common tongue. Sure, Winz might think that the comm is less clog when they were mixed

but even he has to conceded that the current results speak for itself

[red anvil]

i wasent questioning their results, i even said he concluded with that longer up. I just think rogue found a playstyle that suited their team, and was lucky with the meta.

all having the same native tongue have it perks, no doubt, but i dont think thats what brought them success

[clever portal]

I think native language is an overated thing

Of course, if you're from some countries you english might not be the best

But synergy and stuff doesn't come from what country you're from

[red anvil]

i can see colture creating better synergy, but most european countries are fairly simlar

[clever portal]

You can get along with people from other cultures

[balmy wolf]

It is not as overrated as it seems. OW is still pretty young in term of talent pool so mixed roster are more of the norm

[clever portal]

Especially people from Sweden speak very good english and can be chill

[balmy wolf]

Tviq mentioned the whole reason why he initiated the trade was because he enjoyed Team Sweden's atmosphere during World Cup. Of course, the trade was a disaster, but its has its reasonings

[clever portal]

What works in CS doesn't necessarily have to be the same in overwatch

Look at real sports

And League

Dota

[solid spear]

Misfits still got bodied in the trade

[clever portal]

So in that situation, isn't it more of a problem with the people?

[balmy wolf]

you mean like in DOTA2 where the 4 of the top 10 teams are all Chinese?

[clever portal]

You could find a better team atmosphere in different teams

Doesn't have to be all from one country

I'll admit, my dota knowledge isn't the best

All i know is that its very international

I'm just saying you could should pick based on talent

Also these owl owners won't be caring about nationality

[balmy wolf]

they won't, but having a same mother tongue is a useful perk

I mean, nobody clamored for KRs to mix up the roster and add English speaking players in

it is only from this side of the pond that people wants mixed up roster

[red anvil]

Countries that needs a translator is excluded in my book from the current arguement though

[balmy wolf]

if the team owners feels like fielding a roster from the same nationality works, then they will do it

[clever portal]

The reason you don't foreigners in korean rosters is because

1. They are literally the best at every role

2. Korea has far less money than NA/EU orgs

[balmy wolf]

I'd argue the reason they are very coordinated is because of ability to speak in their own tongue

and having a deep player pool

once OW talent pool got expanded in countries with deep esport pedigree like Sweden, Denmark, France, etc etc

more same nationality line up is going to grow

hell, French has and

descendents of old and old

that's just the start

[clever portal]

Fair enough

We'll see in a few years I guess

[balmy wolf]

#bringbackmelty

[floral harness]

https://twitter.com/iddqdOW/status/885214094076256256

André Dahlström (@iddqdOW)

This is what I strive for, Incredibly proud and honored to be repping San Fransisco for the @overwatchleague - tons of hard work ahead!

Likes

167

Twitter

Am I the only thinking he's not deserving this ?

[balmy wolf]

Why?

[toxic yacht]

Yes

[solid spear]

ah yes the San Fransisco meme

[floral harness]

What did he achieve to play in the most prestigious league ?

[balmy wolf]

I guess the IDDQD timebomb timer got extended a little bit.

[toxic yacht]

Oh yeah, Seagull is 100% gonna play

[balmy wolf]

What did Seagull ever achieve to play in OWL anyway?

[toxic yacht]

He doesn't know which team yet though

[floral harness]

Don't get me wrong, Seagull is not deserving either

[balmy wolf]

to clarify, i'm just memeing, but I do agree with you a bit @floral harness

[toxic yacht]

Yeah sure, surefour also isn't deserving because c9 never won anything meaningful

[balmy wolf]

IDDQD post OW Open has been benched for being a horrible team players in Fnatic, and ever since then people has been clinging onto his stream as proof of him being a world class hitscan

At least Seagull brings the viewerships

[pine star]

When does Seagull play? 4Head

[balmy wolf]

@toxic yacht better than NRG at least

[floral harness]

Yeah but it's like '' Summit1G should go to a major, it brings views ! ''.. Just no bro...

[balmy wolf]

I mean Seagull historically been an underperforming DPS that got lauded as one of US's best because you know, stomp ranked plebs long enough and you can fool all the casuals into thinking that you are the best

so if his fans wants to see him crash and burn like NRG did post-rebuild, then so be it

[pine star]

Seagull is a good player on the pro level

Not the best

But not shit tier as people make it out to be

But sure, let's hate on the guy just for being popular

[toxic yacht]

literally every single pro who's played aginst him has said that he's an excellent player

but whatever

[solid spear]

I mean I dont care about him much hes a solid player though

[vestal mortar]

👀

[solid spear]

like hes defintely not bad

[pine star]

Tara WutFace

[toxic yacht]

taimout totally also didn't consider him one of the best genjis when counting the best players by role

surefour totally never said that he's a top 5 projectile dps

[trim trellis]

[balmy wolf]

mind you, I just said "underperforming". He is better in a supportive role like NicoGDH.

[toxic yacht]

oh, and literally every korean who has played against him and said that he's good

they also don't exist

👍

[vestal mortar]

Teoooooo

[balmy wolf]

but there's something to be said about Gods, Pookz, and other ex NRG members founding better success post NRG

[trim trellis]

Taraaaaa?

[toxic yacht]

but yeah, I think that he's more suited for the supportive role too

[clever portal]

Koreans overrate him though

[toxic yacht]

lol

[clever portal]

Like Tobi and Miro claiming he's the best player

[toxic yacht]

yeah, koreans are gods until they say that seagull is good

👍

[pine star]

He also has a really good mind for the game

[solid spear]

I mean I dont think Seagull could be the best player on a T1 team but hes a good player

[floral harness]

I don't care what people say, he didn't a single pro match in a year, this is just cheesy

[balmy wolf]

KRs are people. They can get idolatry too, mind you.

[toxic yacht]

wat

he defintely

won multiple pro matches

[clever portal]

I'm not saying he's not good, just that LH are big seagull fans

[toxic yacht]

in a year

wat

[floral harness]

Play*

[toxic yacht]

like, wat

he stopped playing a less than half a year ago

march

iirc

but well, december

[clever portal]

Has he played in 2017?

[toxic yacht]

if you wanna be exact

because MLG

[clever portal]

I thought 2016

[toxic yacht]

pretty sure that MLG was in december

yeah, my bad

[balmy wolf]

NRG has flunked out of OW Contenders, NGE Winter Premiere qualifier, APEX S1, MLG Vegas, and only got into playoff of APAC. So roughly half a year?

and the playoff of APAC is literally him going up against Chinese teams

[toxic yacht]

reminder that they lost a match vs lunatic hai 3-1

[balmy wolf]

that's not a resume of a world class DPS

[toxic yacht]

and it was much closer than the score suggests

but yeh, don't think that he's a carry dps

[floral harness]

At this time KR and chinese teams were not that good

[toxic yacht]

more like a supportive guy

[floral harness]

Pretty irrrelevant

[balmy wolf]

the failure at MLG Vegas, NGE qualifier kind of undo that though

[clever portal]

Was the problem Seagull, or that NRG was bad?

[toxic yacht]

reminder that LH beat rogue

at that time

[floral harness]

And got fucked in the finals

[toxic yacht]

"fucked"

a stupid close 4-1 series

not what I call "fucked"

[solid spear]

I mean clearly they had solid players weve seen them succeed on other teams I just dont think Seagull can be your best player and you expect to consistently beat any T1 teams

[toxic yacht]

well, the first 3 matches were very close

[balmy wolf]

did has to fight for the 4-1 scoreline

[solid spear]

Seagull is still a very valuabe player

a lot of teams could use

[balmy wolf]

well I mean in term of bringing the fanbase, yes

[solid spear]

but he shouldnt be your number 1 guy

[toxic yacht]

hollywood was a very decisive win

[balmy wolf]

Seagull has massive fan appeal due to first mover advantage

but if a team decided to build a team around him like how NRG tried

that's the wrong move

[toxic yacht]

lol

[wintry matrix]

i still dunno why you guys argue so much about seagull

[toxic yacht]

that's just lol

imo

[solid spear]

I dont give af about Seagulls stream or fans thats not what Im referring to

[toxic yacht]

like, don't build a team around him

[wintry matrix]

besides the fact it's really hard to say who's the best in OW

[solid spear]

the value of Seagull is actually that he can pretty easily fit on a lot of teams

[wintry matrix]

even Ryujeuhong could be crap under certain circunstances

or even more of a god in another

[toxic yacht]

also, he's an NA projectile dps

guys, an NA projectile dps

[solid spear]

hes not really the kinda player Im trying to build around

[toxic yacht]

they aren't very common

[solid spear]

but you can be damn sure NRG wants him rn

[toxic yacht]

mostly a hitscan region

[solid spear]

for actual OW reasons

[toxic yacht]

lol, they definitely want him

literally his presence

massively boosts views

[wintry matrix]

he said for team reasons, not popularity, i think

[clever portal]

He also has a good game sense, and calls apparently

[toxic yacht]

so even if he still gets mediocre results

[balmy wolf]

breaking news: Seagull released from NRG, will pursue free agency

[toxic yacht]

the extra boosts will be worth it, methinks

ya, seagull really isn't that flashy and good mechanically imo

[clever portal]

Meme or legit?

[toxic yacht]

he's very consistent, but like, not carry tier

according to most people his greatest strength is his gamesense

[wintry matrix]

i just want for him to get in a good team so we can see his potential

[solid spear]

I mean at least with idd/seagull you have a decent dps pair and something to work with I guess

[toxic yacht]

and also something that tends to come out on stream

his ability

to like, explain his thoughts

better than any other pro who basically thinks the same things

it kinda shines through

but yeah, I can only go off what other pros say

in this case

[balmy wolf]

Seagull would actually get even better economically if he persuade free agency now

you know people will throw money at him

but NRG might just give him a blank check

[wintry matrix]

maybe in the short term

[pine star]

He's probably under contract rn

[toxic yacht]

I'd assume that he negotiated for a stupid favourable contract

[wintry matrix]

but i think if he wants longevity as a pro he needs to consider a good enviroment to play, instead of the patchwork NRG always was

[balmy wolf]

I mean Seamoose seems to be a good coach but from what I've heard the situation in NRG isn't ideal

the timebomb of IDDQD still ticking

[wintry matrix]

i wouldn't be surprised if coaching skills didn't align with team building skills

[pine star]

One would think they would set up a proper infrastructure for their team now that they have an OWL spot and invested millions in it

But I'm done having faith on NRG

Like

So done

lol

[toxic yacht]

same

lol

[wintry matrix]

i think everyone feels like that

[toxic yacht]

got fucking burnt with a flamethrower every time

I'll still support the team, especially if seagull plays

but like

lol

no faith

[pine star]

That's an understatement

[wintry matrix]

it's also bad because it could halt these pros careers

[balmy wolf]

building a team is kind of an art. There's synergy, playstyle, attitude, roles, etc etc. What NRG did with IDDQD and Harbleu is just throw money at the most expensive FAs around like a casual r/compow reader

both buyouts for them are in the 6 figures range

and so far it all went down the drain

[toxic yacht]

It also doesn't help that harbs two best heroes are garbage right now, lul

but yeh, it feels a lot like they've just been throwing money at the issue

[balmy wolf]

I'm convinced that the old Complexity roster has potential as long as they replaced their DPSes

but Harb took the easy way out

[pine star]

Harb

[toxic yacht]

and now coL is kill

:/

[balmy wolf]

Mind you, Shake is now with and Joemeister is with

both are better than NR "talent sink hole" G

[toxic yacht]

what's with me and always ending up with supporting teams that can't win for shit

[balmy wolf]

🕯 for JKW tho

[toxic yacht]

ya

[balmy wolf]

go to only to play Lucio and now benched

[pine star]

you are jinxing them Sojum, STOP

[toxic yacht]

literally NRG

[balmy wolf]

not as bad as @supple nymph

[toxic yacht]

now misfits

wtf is dis

[solid spear]

waiting for Dafrans new squad

[balmy wolf]

Dafran getting sign

[solid spear]

pls

[toxic yacht]

wouldn't shock me if some org with no fear signed him