For example top 100 mercy with 40% winrate is evidence
#esports-discussion
clever portal
toxic yacht
I can excuse shitty production from Hex and ZP more than from a big company like blizzard
tbh
clever portal
but in other ranks win rate is meaningless
For example I gain 30 a game as well
So I could have season high with a 40% winrate as well
solid spear
mah bronze experience 
wintry matrix
it would be really funny if OWL turned out to have the same problems as OMM, just imagine
clever portal
And i play dva/rein/zarya
toxic yacht
so yeh, I laugh at stupid shit like that massive noise spike, disconncts, bad fps and retarded chat mods when it's some small thingy from ZP and Hex
balmy wolf
It wasn't like Contenders was badly produced though.
toxic yacht
if blizzard would fuck up like that I'd be 
though
solid spear
Kestler you throw though
toxic yacht
contenders was actually produced pretty well
wintry matrix
just imagine soe, flame, reinforce, monte and doa talking with robot voice
clever portal
@solid spear I don't throw 
toxic yacht
I have a few gripes with how the free-cam was often times spectating nothing because fights were moving on one half of the map to the next within 3 seconds
but overall, what we actually got
as in, the 3 out of 1324 matches that we actually saw
wintry matrix
yeah, i think the only part that can go bad in OWL production is the spectator part
toxic yacht
the production was pretty solid
solid spear
@clever portal Zarya, Rein 
wintry matrix
but with what doa said i have good hopes for that
clever portal
I feed as Winston 
I am a DVa main now
I think they can figure something out with the spectating
Or as we get more experienced spectators, the quality will go up
solid spear
Yeah Kestler my Monkey is a throw, so DM bot feelsgoodman
balmy wolf
Even Harsha pointed out that in OMM
half of the time you'd spectate as dead players
people just got mad that a lot of the matches wasn't broadcasted
and it snowballed from there
compensate Roadhog by making him more tanky
clever portal
I feel like Hog is too much like Mei
solid spear
unless they make a major rework to him all around
balmy wolf
The line "now he can still dish out a lot of damage over all" triggered me. They are using his overall damage per seconds to overlooked the fact that Roadhog is never about the overall DPS output anyway.
solid spear
right now hes arguably the worst character in the game, at least characters like Junk dont go feed for 900HP while doing nothing, doesnt kill shit , doesnt protect shit, doesnt do anything anymore
clever portal
You can reposition people 
balmy wolf
more like "can't"
can't punish anyone because hook doesn't consistently 1HK anymore
can't protect anyone because no one respects his presence due to his hook power being shite
can't even fucking alive because Tracer would just farm ult off of him
solid spear
yeah like Im legit not scared of Roadhog anymore
solid spear
you just farm him
balmy wolf
I mean Reaper should be the one that taking Hog's place but it is not the case so far
rapid flower
meow
clever portal
🐈
blazing parrot
woof
solid spear
:3
solid spear
thats why Taimou getting replaced by S4 not trying to go back
🕯
sinful grail
I think that he just didn't want to play professionally anymore but he might get back in later
feral solar
Hahaha
limber pine
was he supposed to be there?
supple nymph
maybe he got too high
clever portal
It's not a licensed event
supple nymph
the part where they advertised him being in it 
balmy wolf
@clever portal community license stills counts
and i'm pretty sure Blizzard told everyone, all the third party tournament hosts, to not bother with Slasher
that alone can make people not even bother with him
sturdy granite
Sinatraa for CLG 
sturdy granite
I dig it
feral solar
sturdy granite
Esports with 🅱 o 🅱 a 🅱 o l a
wintry matrix
it kinda sucks tho how a lot of stuff is dependant on sponsors, so i thought that could be a valid discussion
cue youtube
sturdy granite
pretty much
balmy wolf
it aligned with the leaks, btw
details about BLizzard announcing the first round of owners this week
and other shits
sturdy granite
28 franchises
wintry matrix
by 28 franchises it means 28 teams at OWL?
sturdy granite
I feel like we won't hit 28 for the first season, but I would love to be wrong.
“I’m personally aware of two dozen who are pretty credible trying to make a run at this,”
and yeah, I assume they mean league spots
feral solar
https://twitter.com/overwatchleague welp time to follow this
Twitter
solid spear
28 would be absolutely fantastic but that seems very opotimistic
solid spear
even half of that would probably be good
also
talking to Ben
about Meta report spoilers Winston had 100% usage
Im really excited for tomorrow seems were finally getting news
crisp lynx
same as korean scene. we expect big news here too.
balmy wolf
@crisp lynx any leaks so far?
crisp lynx
nothing.
But it's just feeling from LH coach's words, Myeonghoon's next team, ??? team vs LH in event match. Everything points to this week.
and BK alarm, bunny, runaway's new member. Kongdoo eyes.
solid spear
yeah and Kungarna getting picked up, Kyky talking about NV news the IMT and NRG stuff seems a lot of stuff is pointing to big reveals
crisp lynx
balmy wolf
Kongdoo Eyes? hmm
balmy wolf
balmy wolf
Twitter
clever wagon
I'm actually fucking reading that thread up to the last page
It's fun learning how people reach new depths of idiocy every day
solid spear
Lunatic Hai playing tomorrow 
crisp lynx
it will be in 8 hours.
red anvil
Hype 
crisp lynx
for your hype, Today's libero's birthday 
toxic yacht
🙏
clever portal
🙏
red anvil
🍰
wanton bronze
Overwatch league to be played in lucio ball only
narrow sphinx
WE need this
clever portal
It's probably get more views than if they played actual overwatch
feral solar
LUL
clever portal
Easier to spectate as well
upper patio
That would be better than rocket league
And also it would be nice if the field had parkour elements as well
crisp lynx
i havent play rocket league. is it fun to play also?
feral solar
yeah rocket league is fun
i havent watched much esports side of it so idk if its fun to watch or not
crisp lynx
recently i bought it because of steam sale. but didnt played yet.
feral solar
its way better if you use a controller to play it
crisp lynx
ty i'll play it this weekend
clever portal
LH game soon 
Someone was claiming LH is the Seoul team and "???" Is a sister team they'll leave behind in korea
Allegedly this is the proof
so TWNKL, Bunny, Dohyeon, Myunghoon, Alarm and Guardian
crisp lynx
who said twnkl?
he joined the training camp this month. because twinkl have military service as a public service army.
solid spear
That roster sounds spicy
crisp lynx
aha, it's not bk twinkl. it's former mvp flash
clever portal
SKT Faker in favorites 
clever portal
LPL 3-1 LCK 
crisp lynx
crisp lynx
The seven franchise locations and their owners are:
Boston: Patriots Chairman/CEO Robert Kraft
New York: Mets COO and Sterling VC co-founder Jeff Wilpon
Los Angeles: Noah Winston, CEO of Immortals, whose backers include AEG, Grizzlies owner Stephen Kaplan and Lionsgate
Miami-Orlando: Ben Spoont, CEO/co-founder of Misfits Gaming, backed by the Miami Heat
San Francisco: Andy Miller, chairman/founder of NRG ESports and a minority shareholder in the Sacramento Kings
Shanghai: NetEase Inc., the distributor of Overwatch in China
Seoul: Kevin Chou, co-founder and former CEO of mobile game developer Kabam
clever wagon
Oh so it's finally announced?
clever portal
clever wagon
Finally something regarding OWL
feral solar
are they telling us about the players in the teams yet at all? or just about the owners
crisp lynx
player might not be decided yet.
clever portal
Yeah, rosters are provisional till launch
Some non orgs might have idea on rosters though
feral solar
atleast we have some new stuff which is always good
clever portal
Also the rumors changed to 7
So either Misfits signed this week
Or its all just rumors on who the teams are
feral solar
i guess we will get to know more today
crisp lynx
RIP bingo
clever portal
Yes, no misfits disband
clever portal
Chips, Cocco + misfits 
balmy wolf
Also, always late to esport discussion feelsbadman
clever portal
Everyone get in here
red anvil
no more pure country teams pls
clever portal
Alicus says announcement in 3 minutes
red anvil
PLS
clever portal
I would @ this whole channel if it was possible
pine star
IT'S HAPPENING GUYS HOLY SHIT
red anvil
Alicus 
pine star
I need a new cardiac system
balmy wolf
nah @balmy wolf
noble steeple
Whoa.
balmy wolf
the presence of Blecher Report is interesting
because it indicate that the news was real
not just bamboozle
yaaay..?
this part interested me though
"Shanghai: NetEase Inc., the distributor of Overwatch in China"
no interests of conflicts there? 🤔
clever portal
"Both local and online-only fans will be able to eventually earn Overwatch League team–branded skins, sprays, and player icons,"
balmy wolf
lmao im more hyped for that than this announcement of people who bought in @clever portal
pine star
"I think there's definitely some criticism between the time we announced the league at BlizzCon and this next announcement, but we wanted to make it a meaningful announcement, instead of dripping information out there along the way."
balmy wolf
"meaningful"
pine star
Is that bullshit I smell?
red anvil
We dident know what to do so we was quiet
balmy wolf
lol it was deleted. But there was an announcement.
balmy wolf
keen moon
Z E R O E U T E A M S
red anvil
Maybe blizzard will care about esport now 
balmy wolf
so to the proud heritage of the NorCal region of 76ers, Warriors, Giants............and the FUCKING NRG?
what is this
No rosters announced 
red anvil
balmy wolf
Time for Seagull to back to NRG?
"hey guys, sorry for abandoned the team halfway to stream. Now i'm back"
"To allow teams time to prepare venues in their cities for proper home-and-away play in the future, Season 1’s regular-season matches will be played at an esports arena in the Los Angeles area in the United States. The games will be played each Thursday, Friday, and Saturday during the season, and more information about the schedule and ticket sales will be announced closer to the Overwatch League’s launch.
For those who aspire to show off their Overwatch skills within their local communities, we’re happy to let you know that each team will have a license to run up to five amateur events in their home territory each year. These events would complement the online Open Division as well as regional Contenders and other mid-tier leagues, and provide more occasions to celebrate talent in each community as more teams join the Overwatch League."
mid tier league 
where's Hafficool when you need him
"We’re keen on making sure that teams will be able to share in the Overwatch League’s overall financial success and be rewarded for investing in their home cities. With that in mind, teams will all receive an equal share of net revenues from league-wide advertising, ticketing, and broadcast rights deals; at the same time, they will keep all local revenues up to a set amount each year (past that amount, a portion of the local revenues will go back into the league-wide shared pool for teams). Overwatch players will be able to support the collective teams via special in-game items, as 50% of the revenues from these items will flow into the shared revenue pool. These arrangements will help ensure that teams have the resources to establish and grow their local Overwatch communities for years to come."
SPECIAL IN GAME ITEMS
50% OF THE REVENUES FROM THESE ITEMS
WE CSGO NAWL?
Well arny already posted that there will be team related skins, sprays and icons
so probably team lootboxes
pine star
Oh shit my wallet
keen moon
Eh I don't think they'd be able to do team lootboxes outright
balmy wolf
thank god i probably wont care about any of these rosters enough to buy boxes
keen moon
It'd need to be a "League Lootbox" or something
Or a lootbox semi-linked to a team (Increased odds of that team's items)
red anvil
that was sarcasm ofc
pine star
NRG's Sombra Skin: Increases ultimate generation rate by 50%
crisp lynx
Does csgo really have such an item?
clever portal
No, they're just joking
crisp lynx
Aha
balmy wolf
CSGO only have sprays and stickers
and it is only available twice a year
during majors
crisp lynx
ty
red anvil
hopefully its something more then sprays in OW
balmy wolf
@crisp lynx http://store.steampowered.com/app/675000/PGL_2017_Krakow_CSGO_Major_Championship_Mega_Bundle/
it said sprays, skins and icons
red anvil
sweet 😃
crisp lynx
it looks good 
red anvil
all skins makes me happy
red anvil
it will probably just tracer racer type skins nothing special
feral solar
I got in bed and ofc everything released
feral solar
Idk what to think of this whole release
balmy wolf
A letdown
feral solar
I'm just not hyped
clever portal
@clear yacht get out 
feral solar
Maybe it's just cause we haven't seen anything
smoky hinge
Seven teams for initial start is pretty good
feral solar
You guys tagging the wrong jelly
smoky hinge
I was expecting alot less
clever portal
toxic yacht
jelly bean
balmy wolf
Time for Boston to buy 
balmy wolf
you can't star from outside protalk.....
balmy wolf
IMT 100%
pine star
No shit lol
balmy wolf
New NRG 100%
pine star
Omg no
balmy wolf
Misfits 100%
won't get disbanded
pine star
lol good point
pine star
Shangai's Laser Kittenz
balmy wolf
"two decades of esports experience"
Sounds about right if you were in the Korean Starcraft scene
pine star
Wild Lena appears
balmy wolf
there's a tiny bit of hope in me that OWL crashed and burn and they has to revamped the model to let endemic orgs in
clever portal
Mods in chat
balmy wolf
Like the casuals, obviously 
balmy wolf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6mtjbe/welcome_our_initial_seven_teams_owl/ meanwhile over at r/ow
Thanks for killing our esports scene for this nate 
solid spear
Only 42 of the 75000 pros will get to play in OWL 
balmy wolf
top 3rd of the player base, yo 👍
feral solar
Maybe it will be amazing guys
We don't know
So we are gonna get new information at BlizzCon aswell? I didn't read properly cause on phone
feral solar
Cause they kinda charged 20mil
So let's hope it works out
Nothing about C9 yet right?
balmy wolf
Blizzard pay their casters better than Riot don't they?
clever portal
feral solar
That's what Monte said yeh
clever portal
pine star
Allegedly
feral solar
Rogue :(
balmy wolf
Rogue is still based in Eu no?
pine star
They will get in, no doubt about it
red anvil
Rogue is owned by american team
balmy wolf
Oh
feral solar
They moved to na recently
red anvil
well rogue is an american team
pine star
@balmy wolf they're in na
solid spear
when most the best teams wont be playing in the premier league
feral solar
We get to see NRG it's fine
red anvil
big money cannons without any confirmed rosters
solid spear
Lol
solid spear
There's a lot more than 4 good teams
And thats all thats getting picked up
LH is most likely
feral solar
Ikik but just sucks having only 7 teams
feral solar
Yeh around there will be good
My ideal would be 16
But it isn't a good idea to have that many initially
solid spear
Why not
pine star
I don't have hopes for more teams in the inaugural season
clever portal
Ideally it's something like 12 EU and 12 NA eventually
pine star
solid spear
I want 64 teams
feral solar
Haha
feral solar
Oh yeh
pine star
Oreo pls
feral solar
Can't wait for everyone in those regions to now support NRG
limber pine
I need a DC team
forest raven
You dodged a bullet with NRG, Sprite
pine star
A big one
solid spear
NRG bouta drop their 3 players and sign Rogue 
feral solar
Is anyone here from one of the places picked?
solid spear
Yeah
clever portal
Who's your new team dafran jr
feral solar
^
solid spear
Whatever team Dafran is on
clever portal
Not supporting local team 
feral solar
Traitor
feral solar
:thenkeng:
red anvil
He has experience
solid spear
Idk if I care supoort local team, Ill see who they buy off 👀
clever portal
7
solid spear
42 pros 
weak bloom
so what happens to the teams that didn't get a spot?
they would need to move to another city?
So the other Cali based teams that didn't get a spot have to move?
pine star
If they get a spot, probably
clever portal
Inb4 a mercy main gets picked up
solid spear
Not necessarily
red anvil
6x mercy mains is NRGs new team
pine star
Contenders? Third parties?
solid spear
I mean
clever portal
To play in contenders 
solid spear
You're right some orgs feel that way
That's why a lot of teams have been dropped
But some will stay regardless
weak bloom
there's no other tournaments really for OW...it's not like they could recoup investment from that
pine star
As of right now
feral solar
Tbh contenders might just be better
weak bloom
and contenders, if you make it sure, but if not then you're a year out doing nothing
unless they have quarterlies which i doubt
if they create a T2 league then could be good
but without a relegation system
sponsors don't care about T2 leagues much
solid spear
I mean yeah the situation is shit but it might still be worth it for some orgs
weak bloom
Immortals took the plunge
good for them
i think they're a great org personally having talked to Noah
forest raven
Immortals is looking like the third best team in North America right now
weak bloom
Noah's one of the smartest guys i know in the biz atm
red anvil
Immortals is deffo tier 1.5 now
red anvil
they are strong af
feral solar
Echo fox xD
solid spear
And frankly the spots are probably more expensive than they should be
pine star
Riot didn't charge you 20 million
solid spear
Riot wasnt charging 20M for spots in the beginning
weak bloom
both companies are owned by Tencent now anyways so you got Chinese money backing it
pine star
@solid spear gotcha
solid spear
Pls
feral solar
Yeh ^
weak bloom
maybe the first time buyers get a bigger revenue sharing cut % later
No i don't think so
solid spear
Remember when we thought OWL spots would be 2-5M 
weak bloom
i think probably some savvy accounting with investment costs, ROI, and possibly estimation on fee's
there must have been a way to revenue project
maybe using LOL as a baseline dunno
pine star
forest raven
kek
feral solar
Hahaha
weak bloom
i just asked Noah
he said there's gonna be a video released on why/how they decided to buy into the OW league coming
so look fw to that
feral solar
I feel like it's gonna be the generic stuff
weak bloom
no i don't think so
feral solar
Hopefully they go in depth
weak bloom
Noah is pretty frank about it
feral solar
That's good then
weak bloom
if you watch his other interviews on Yahoo esports (rip) he's pretty articulate
weak bloom
i'm sure contractually he can't share all the details on the contract due to blizzard T&S
feral solar
Ofc yeh
weak bloom
but i think he will definitely talk about their thinking
and why they decided to from an org POV
red anvil
i actually hope they do destroy some top tier teams with robbing players so the OWL actually can be interesting 🤷
red anvil
10 min
feral solar
Welp my phone is dying so I'm gonna sleep! Night ppl 💤
solid spear
G'night bb
solid spear
Where's my bb sopti
clever portal
@crisp lynx
red anvil
oiiii 
clever portal
Team shown
crisp lynx
yes it's right
red anvil
solid team
solid spear
So LH Red and LH Blue now?
solid spear
no I wasnt talking about LW
crisp lynx
flash was from MVP, myeonghoon from conbox
solid spear
I was saying like we have a LH Blue and Red now I assume
red anvil
if they are smart
crisp lynx
Sry
solid spear
unless OG LH got picked up by a certain someone
clever portal
Sopti, who is flash?
wary falcon
terran player
crisp lynx
MVP flash
he retired from MVP in this february, like myeonghoon from conbox. and come back now
red anvil
No DF 😦
solid spear
getting more views than some of our tournaments
red anvil
escaaa
crisp lynx
ppl say Bunny, Alarm try out for kongdoo recently. but didnt signed for this.
red anvil
RJH on gengu 😮
solid spear
better Blades than Arhan lul
wary falcon
don't hurt my boy arhan
red anvil
Miro tracer, RJH genji, Gido Ana, Zunba Winston, Tobi Solider, Esca lucio
new LH1 setup confirmed
crisp lynx
ryu's genji is a kind of korean meme.
toxic yacht
lol
crisp lynx
he is known as bad genji in ranked.
crisp lynx
Even if it's an event, winning the debut team will help advertising
solid spear
theyd rather use McCree than Doomfist
crisp lynx
actually it is not PTR server.
solid spear
ah makes sense
red anvil
how long is the match? bo5?
crisp lynx
yes, BO5, 1-0 now
solid spear
one thing I just thought about, if Seagull was serious about coming back to pro scene when OWL starts NRG is one of the few teams that actually has an OWL spot...guess its time to see whether he really does care about being pro or he just stays in streaming long term
crisp lynx
Can he come back anytime he wants?
balmy wolf
Personally
I found it largely amusing
the Seagull abandoned his team for a long time for streaming
and now OWL reared its head
and now Gull is probably schemeing on how to return to the pro scene
solid spear
sopti if he wants to come back hell be able to probably
crisp lynx
i know he is good for viewcount. but if NRG dont want him as a starting member because of performance. what happened?
balmy wolf
Taimou is rekting xQC btw
@crisp lynx that is in the realm of impossibility
NRG will wants him
there's a reason they tolerate him abandoned their team for so long
crisp lynx
poor xQc... I think everybody is beating him.
balmy wolf
thats fucking hilarious though
crisp lynx
That makes sense. So it depends on seagull himself.
solid spear
@balmy wolf well remember what Seamoose told us on Sunday and I cant imagine this OWL wasnt already known to him by them
clever portal
Esca 
balmy wolf
@solid spear i was going in and out of the chat channel like a retard. Remind me again what he said?
and yes Gull probably knew it a few months in advance
solid spear
He was saying how in the event that Seagull wanted to come back and for whatever reason they still hadnt found of projectile player hed be welcome but they have been and will continue to build the roster with the assumption that Seagull will not be on it
balmy wolf
gotcha
balmy wolf
Clash for Cash OW version?
crisp lynx
😬 idk
crisp lynx
Seagull never die.
clever wagon
Fate, kariv, envy, Carpe, kaiser, xepher, effect, fury... any other Korean I missed in the West?
blazing parrot
bishop
balmy wolf
I'm curious to why OW distributor in China manage to get a league spot while ACE never got one
clever wagon
I mean hailing from Korean teams
crisp lynx
munchkin claris
toxic yacht
the league was announced and they're most definitely still trying for the team
it's either now or never for birdman
pine star
Twitter
solid spear
Bischu isnt Korean lul, but theres the LK boys and I know NRG trialed at least one korean
crisp lynx
Tencent vs Netease rivalry
crisp lynx
@clever portal they said it is movie terminator 2 bgm
toxic yacht
I saw you @wanton bronze 👀
clever portal
LUL
crisp lynx
idk why
clever portal
Is Reb a normie, do we need to summon mods?
wanton bronze
you saw nothing
wanton bronze
nope
clever portal
You can stay 
clever wagon
Should Roadhog be reverted?
crisp lynx
lol
pine star
Leave Reb alone ffs
clever wagon
Is Hanzo scatter more bullshit than Roadhog hook combo?
red anvil
yes
clever wagon
You don't understand, we need this Sulli
wanton bronze
I honestly dont know with Roadhog, his previous form is arguably fine for higher level play but an issue for less organised play
clever portal
clever wagon
🤔
wanton bronze
I dont really care about scatter arrow
crisp lynx
Boston really?
solid spear
REB
pine star
Poggers
solid spear
WHAT ABOUT MCCREE
pine star
Leave. Reb. Alone.
solid spear
NO
civic marsh
no eu spots
civic marsh
no eu spots and owl s1 matches are in west coast time
pine star
Wonder if EnVy will change their name
toxic yacht
Envyable
toxic yacht
they'll just stick the city name ther or osmethign
solid spear
if its some kind of partnership with NV and Kraft then sure
if the roster is straight up sold
pine star
Boston's Envious
solid spear
then it wouldnt be Envy
clever wagon
Boston JeaLouSy
solid spear
Kyky could very well be meming anyway
pine star
I don't think he'd meme like that
It would make him look bad if it turns out to not be true
Nah
trim trellis
why this
toxic yacht
.
wanton bronze
^^^^
trim trellis
lmfao
clever portal
Is that a mod?
blazing parrot
clever portal
How do you get a red name?
blazing parrot
@smoky cradle sup dad 
smoky cradle
Hello Kvothe
real falcon
Gay
smoky cradle
toxic yacht
Hello Kvotha
blazing parrot
solid spear
._.
blazing parrot
starboard is going stronk today
clever portal
Big day
solid spear
Tairong 
blazing parrot
wall street journal article on OWL: https://www.wsj.com/articles/overwatch-league-backers-come-from-football-baseball-1499860800
frank frigate
Good morning everyone, I just posted this week's "Meta" report which is really more of a map analysis and dissection of Jeff Kaplan's post since the Beat invitational was a limited map pool and played only by NA teams:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6mui8b/overwatch_hero_meta_report_a_meta_abridged/
Let me know what you think -- do you agree with my take on "the jeff post" or am I a scrub who doesn't care enough about esports?
balmy wolf
subscribe the read the full story
blazing parrot
@balmy wolf yea fuck that shit
quasi python
ps 4?
red anvil
It's so wonderful to see rein battles again 
balmy wolf
@blazing parrot probably won't be anything more than what we already know though
blazing parrot
p much
@balmy wolf you can read full article through this tweet https://twitter.com/saraheneedleman/status/885126293481771008
balmy wolf
plz hire me Kraft
I'll build you a world class roster
and when I mean build
I mean buy
toxic yacht
but yeah, judging by how NRG's been going, I'm assuming that gull is gonna be back on the roster, except his contract expires soon and he nopes out once he can
balmy wolf
Seamoose said they has been building the roster with the assumption that Gull never returns
clever portal
That's the obvious thing to do though
As soon as he left you should assume he's not coming back
Otherwise you'll get fucked later
solid spear
I think NRG Soon/NRG AKM/NRG Nico/NRG Unkoe/NRG Knoxxx/NRG Winz would be a good roster
they should buy them
toxic yacht
knoxx
balmy wolf
I want my old Rogue roster back 
they'd be a great pickup for Kraft
still tilted from the trade man
or at least MISFITS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FUCKING GET A HITSCAN TO PLAY WITH TVIQ
vestal mortar
I hope my fave team Meme Reddit gets a spot in OWL
toxic yacht
gas
vestal mortar
I want Meme Reddit loot boxes
clever portal
vestal mortar
Imagine a spray of Teo's Winston
wanton bronze
monkey overshooting the cart?
topaz wyvern
It's just the orgs not the players
I'd expect lots of roster changes before any games get played
Owners aren't dumb enough to field teams without good tournament results
Hopefullu
clever portal
Btw, new meta report out
It's what we've been waiting for
Winston 100% pick rate
clever portal
Lucio 98, Tracer and DVa 94
clever portal
All hail the most diverse meta
toxic yacht
that's kinda written in every report
solid spear
buff Winston again
balmy wolf
nah, all the Plats are dying vs Hog
better nerf him
1HK is too powerful
but Scatter Arrow to the feet is a-ok though
balmy wolf
by the way
all the teams that dropped their roster
if they were holding out until now
they'd potentially get an investor to look at their roster
but gotta drop them like flies
solid spear
well which ones
clever wagon
I mean, if they hadn't known at all about this announcement date just like how Blizz kept quiet about it until like what, the beginning of this week?
Is it really their fault?
Just considering both sides of the story
Like sometimes I see people just saying "patience patience reserve judgement until OWL" but there's this thing called a limit :/
balmy wolf
I mean the limit is up to individual orgs
and some of them feel like they has been wasting their time
which is fine
solid spear
what roster that was dropped would get picked up for OWL rn?
solid spear
they literally said they tried to sell the roster
before Dafran got banned
Emongg said teams werent biting
Selfless aways said they wanted to flip them to get em in OWL but couldnt
rapid oxide
@toxic yacht i lost all my braincell by reading YouTube comment, reason of why it got downvoted
Also ppl still think OW runs on a lower tick
toxic yacht
what comments did you read?
rapid oxide
Retards...
clever wagon
Now that's new
balmy wolf
clever wagon
Isn't OW running perfectly at 60 now
rapid oxide
"S1 will be only 7 team!" that's not fucking true lmao
toxic yacht
ahh
the comments on teh video
I don't even know how it's gonna look
I'll just not make any assumptions
lul
balmy wolf
a lot of it is whining tbh
and reddit circlejerking
last week it was "Blizzard is dumb to think that people will buy in with 20 mils"
meanwhile 20 mils is only for LA
now it was "why is S1 only has 7 teams? Where's EU?"
goalposts moving are everywhere
toxic yacht
it was kinda obvious that not all spots would have that price
lul
like, literally in the OWL announcement
they said bidding
I don't understand how people forgot that
balmy wolf
Tell that to the smart people on the internet, man. People are just taking out the frustration they has over the months on Blizzard.
rapid oxide
"lol is 1m only" retards can't understand franchising
wintry matrix
i actually didn't remember it was different prices
do KR pros interact much with the others in the ow?
nocturne sable
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/news/44946-potential-conflict-of-interest-revealed-in-owl-franchise-list?utm_content=buffer667eb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
balmy wolf
that isnt just tairong reign
thats the joke
no shit @balmy wolf
they are staring everything he said
@wintry matrix not really
they are like rare animals
hence the stars
wintry matrix
i cannot wait for the massive headaches when the netease team plays because of "RIGGED"
jagged crater
ridiculous
wintry matrix
pls bliss
supple nymph
is that the million viewer stream company
jagged crater
why china gotta be so shady 😦
floral harness
Because their market has the biggest potential
So Blizzard let them do whatever they want
wintry matrix
i'd think it's more likely for them to buyout established EU teams
floral harness
I don't care at this point. Just want to see the best rosters in this league
wintry matrix
like ex-movistar
wintry matrix
considergin this is WC maybe they are willing to stick together if an org buys them all
solid spear
Just
wintry matrix
like xqc said, there's not much reason to scrim as much in this month
thick cosmos
What does FA mean?
supple nymph
free agent
thick cosmos
Ah
supple nymph
wary falcon
Taimou
balmy wolf
Been that way since morning
toxic yacht
xqc is the hero we need for pro ow lmao
gusty notch
keeps shit entertaining at least
toxic yacht
@balmy wolf help a friend in need
wary falcon
i mean team vs team not mix-mix
balmy wolf
what
toxic yacht
he'd still know the place where to find one
methinks
uhh, jackie asked about where he can find high+ scrims
I assume that you are familiar with a few places to find them
balmy wolf
my guess is the #lf-scrim-na channel
toxic yacht
lul
supple nymph
charred wraith
overwatch is a bad esport lol
balmy wolf
true
charred wraith
why does this chat exist
toxic yacht
low quality bait
charred wraith
not a bait but the truth
balmy wolf
^
charred wraith
give me reasons that suggest its a good esport
toxic yacht
"forfeit"
lol
not gonna waste my brainpower on you
go shit on someone's chest or something
instead of ow esports
wary falcon
he is not wrong, this chat will become Paladins esports soon
charred wraith
Tell me how Overwatch can compete with something like Dota 2 in the esport level
wary falcon
Jasper
jagged crater
coinflip esports!
rapid oxide
Tell me how Dota can compete with something like LoL in the esport level
supple nymph
@charred wraith the largest marketing campaign ever in the history of games
jagged crater
if OW can compete with CSGO at an esport level, i'd be happy
supple nymph
that's all they can do, i think
jagged crater
still comes down to the fundamental problem of OW eseports is its spectating is not good
wary falcon
can't see how OW can be on CS:GO level
minecraft team death match has better spectating
rapid oxide
since when this chat turns into who's more stupid?
jagged crater
did arhan lose to the air?
toxic yacht
he never won
wary falcon
last time they met air won 8-0
toxic yacht
vs the air
warm totem
any games today ?
warm totem
yea figured that
jagged crater
um apex?
toxic yacht
apex is in dunno how many weeks
jagged crater
on funky times
toxic yacht
world cup made them delay the grand finals
jagged crater
i havent watched this season's apex live at all
charred wraith
@rapid oxide didn't see but Dota 2 is an infinetly better esport than League because it has compassion, the highest skill cap of all games and is amazing to watch due to all the insane abilities that can happen
It also has more viewers
jagged crater
grand finals is saturday
wary falcon
who the fuck cares about skill cap
charred wraith
For an esport I care
wary falcon
did you get gold?
rapid oxide
/ s
charred wraith
what the fuck does investiment mean
jagged crater
when is w orld cup
wary falcon
confirmed
wintry matrix
in two days
toxic yacht
it starts
solid spear
tomorrow
toxic yacht
the thingy in china
wintry matrix
the qualifiers
clever portal
DotA esports LUl
charred wraith
and if Dota 2 has less investment why does it have more viewers, a hugely higher prize pool which expodentially increases
wintry matrix
the finals ye
rapid oxide
prizepool isn't a good metric to judge a game lmao
jagged crater
i think world cup qualifiers started a lot earlier than last year?