I do not understand why IMT picked Anubis
#esports-discussion
solid spear
2cp lul
red anvil
ffs
balmy wolf
99.7%
solid spear
damn
balmy wolf
so 
used to be shit as 2CP
toxic yacht
supple nymph
toxic yacht
lul kariv
ngl, if I were unkoe
I'd try to hack kariv
so that he can't get off EMP
well, I at least know why they picked anubis now
they're about to have emp again though
wot tifa was speccing?
wintry matrix
and not even just 2cp, aside from a few moments this match has been just a snore for me
toxic yacht
they went off and gave them free %
well, free % were pointless
nice stream
aKm whoa
wintry matrix
stylized after Salvador Dali
thick cosmos
Omg
balmy wolf
ROGUE
red anvil
solid spear
lul
toxic yacht
A GOOD DEATHBLOSSOM
balmy wolf
NA scene basically "oh shit it is OT better stop fucking touching my dicks and play the game now"
balmy wolf
30 enemies EMP by Unkoee
solid spear
Sojum pls
balmy wolf
last lantern
Fuckin rogue
sturdy granite
What were these EMPS at the end, good lord
toxic yacht
solid spear
IMT Rogue still looked pretty even which is all I wanted
toxic yacht
how the fuck did this guy get mod lmao
supple nymph
.........................
toxic yacht
wtf
wintry matrix
LUL
toxic yacht
what is this
thick cosmos
OW
limber pine
lol
balmy wolf
lol the stream
toxic yacht
LMAO
supple nymph
zp's house blew up
balmy wolf
NA production
wintry matrix
this is better than the games
limber pine
π β
red anvil
lol wutt
toxic yacht
but seriously, this win was the most random shit ever
red anvil
i think they pressed the wrong button
toxic yacht
aKm literally just walks up to them and presses Q
that's what you get for not paying attention because it's overtime, lol
red anvil
people wanted beyblade back 
wintry matrix
i'm still laughing
wintry matrix
considering half of the match was drunk, i would take this victory with a grain of salt
wait, did they take a 2cp against anyone in apex?
thick cosmos
Idk if i wanna put my headset on now lol
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix against 
of all people
balmy wolf
idk, their map wins in Volskyaya and Dorado was pretty convincing
the Anubis win was just RNG god incarnated
wintry matrix
wasn't kariv a bit off on sombra? the parts i watched he took a while to get emp
toxic yacht
his EMP timing was kinda meh and he was slow at building them up
then again, we'er comparing him to unkoe here
unkoe has EMP every 5 seconds
but yeah, this map was the perfect example of why 2CP is utter shit
balmy wolf
Kariv: I can build Trans up really fast
Unkoee: hold my beers
toxic yacht
it had everything we hate about the mode
wintry matrix
also on rogue's attack in volskaya every push they would emp, and yet still lose one or two people
toxic yacht
ridiculous stalls, EMP cheese, 99,7%, one mistake losing you the entire map after playing it better overall
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix still capped with 2 mins to spare
toxic yacht
also, of course won in overtime because defense gets slowed stalls
because that's somehow good design
toxic yacht
reward the offense for not capping in time 
wintry matrix
i think 2cp needs fix, but not as a bad as it can llok
clever portal
Hello this is chat, I would like to depose a lawsuit against BEATesports twitch channel, while I was watching the broadcast, an very loud noise from the quality production tore my eardrum. I cannot hear anything or anyone I love and I would like to receive a compensation WutFace
balmy wolf
vs 
red anvil
it was illios they lost first though wasent it?
gusty notch
battle of which tracer does better 
vestal mortar
indeed
red anvil
and thats why i hide twitch chat
sturdy granite
Envision looking for new coach
toxic yacht
back in the day when I still hated twitch chat
I always posted the link to the direct player
should probably do it again
vestal mortar
I remember those days
supple nymph
enigma lol
red anvil
Sub in semi finals ouchie
vestal mortar
Enigma 
sturdy granite
Poggers
toxic yacht
direct player, no chat, no twitch UI, nothing except the player and the options coming with it
clever portal
No chat DansGame
red anvil
hes back
void timber
gusty notch
zza playing good tracer
vestal mortar
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
supple nymph
@balmy wolf ATW
spring lintel
Danteh son
balmy wolf
@supple nymph not interested in Doomfist talk
gusty notch
feel like arc's support ult usage is pretty bad
spring lintel
Remember when selfless were a thing ππ’
supple nymph
who?
spring lintel
π
clever portal
@solid spear 
spring lintel
Lol arc6 fucked up
spring lintel
A genji or a soldier would be good
solid spear
Muma lol
spring lintel
Dva is fucking reaper
solid spear
"I hope youre watching Jeff"
red anvil
lol this is cruel
spring lintel
This strat is insane
red anvil
he swapped rip
spring lintel
Troll picks
red anvil
i dont know this game
sturdy granite
FeelsGoodMan Mei in play again
spring lintel
Desperate picks
supple nymph
WTF
solid spear
Im loving this chat lol
clever portal
Lul
No one can kill it
Those Seagull and Lirik viewers were never going to watch anyway
wintry matrix
we are 10k btw
clever portal
@winged sorrel having that name here 
winged sorrel
xD
tough agate
fnrgfe's anubis second point is really good
red anvil
protip, dont visit #overwatch-serious with that name 
balmy wolf
tbh u fucking love pro sombras
clever portal
So are FNRGFE Arc 6's Kryptonite
I've never seen a team beat another one so consistently
Other than maybe Misfits against Riders
tough agate
i mean, arc won yesterday
solid spear
yeah they just beat FNRG yesterday
clever portal
You're right I saw match history
gusty notch
clockwork was getting fucked in that game tho
clever portal
Arc are up 2-1 on them
red anvil
Price of match: Get smocked by Rogue
Loser gets: Get smocked by Immortal
fun for the family
wintry matrix
IMT x FNRGFE should be somewhat interesting still
winged sorrel
Hi
clever portal
balmy wolf
That was the longest first fight I've ever seen lol
so first 4-0
Nice
then 3-1
and now it is 2-2
Okay thank god not bo1
wintry matrix
FNRGFE is just another in the line of promising new teams that actually are just another in the NA curse
wintry matrix
i wonder if it's the lack of coach
supple nymph
next map Anubis 
π«
clever portal
Most probably it
These new teams develop their own playstyle
This gets found out, but because of no coach the team isn't innovating
Happened to Selfless, happened to LG Evil
wintry matrix
selfless had coach
balmy wolf
Selfless has coach, LG Evil also has a coach once in a while
wintry matrix
the liquidpedia said their coach quit a few months, there's only an analyst
clever portal
These coaches aren't on the level of Kyky and Bishop though
wintry matrix
has kyky proven himself actually?
tho i guess we can't really judge from the outside
clever portal
I would agree that he hasn't
NV would be consistent against NA teams even without him
And he tactically failed against top level Korean teams
balmy wolf
one thing about NA scene is their lack of an authoritative coach. Coach in NA = friend with advice
wintry matrix
yeah, like, NV doesn't seem to have changed much apart from acquiring effect and adapting to the meta
clever portal
It really shows with things like the Dafran situation
Such a thing wouldn't even start in KR
balmy wolf
or you get put into WhoRU jail
wintry matrix
i think that's because KR is way harsher with that, not even necessarily because of coach
tho selfless should have done something to impede shit like that
especially because they are a turnaround org
balmy wolf
coaches in KR has the authority. Coaches in NA at best can only ask them to stop doing things.
supple nymph
kyky: "please don't throw"
balmy wolf
like I said, "friends with advices" vs "father figure that you must respected"
clever portal
WutFace
wintry matrix
this kinda reminds of LGL bc they often had difficulty to finish kills despite good engages
balmy wolf
threw that round
clever portal
Don't let this distract you from the fact that FNRGFE are throwing
wintry matrix
xqc has something to say about that
supple nymph
LOOOL
clever portal
TehePelo
supple nymph
balmy wolf
throwing so fucking hard
wintry matrix
i wonder if Arc6 can luck their way out to the point of winning a major
sturdy granite
Custa has been a good pickup
clever portal
Majors in overwatch 
wintry matrix
like, the finals are against Rogue, then on the day they get extremely sick with some rotten grapes
balmy wolf
"reformed"
supple nymph
wintry matrix
he's like this channel with soe, he just can't contain himself
gusty notch
jesus christ
sturdy granite
@supple nymph π
clever portal
solid spear
my Touko has returned
clever portal
Now just need Vace and Kvo
supple nymph
LUUL
solid spear
xQc lul
sturdy granite
Jeez, that was brutal
hallow fable
no pause for you!
sturdy granite
RIGGED
hallow fable
welp.
final river
Space Genji
sturdy granite
NA production at its finest
supple nymph
@balmy wolf DRUNK
supple nymph
afk admin is a new one
i dont remember that ever happening
seamoose impromptu interview in ATW rn 
wintry matrix
btw, this tifa admin is coL tifa or just another? edit: apparently yes
toxic yacht
I'd think coL tifa, but I wouldn't know
balmy wolf
it is CoL Tifa yes
wintry matrix
IMT pls don't drag this any more than it needs to
balmy wolf
back to the trash can
wintry matrix
ffs
wintry matrix
can a tired grim and drunk agilities win this?
supple nymph
and rogue start up 1 point
supple nymph
Further yet several have doubts about the way Activision Blizzard has handled sponsors for the league. One sizeable sponsor who has already done a handful of deals within esports was reputedly driven away after the size of the sponsorship kept being increased over a series of meetings. βThe sponsor said that for the money Blizzard were asking they could have bought into the NFLβ a source informed us βand Blizzard told them that this league will be bigger than the NFL. At that point they pulled out.β
π° π° π°
balmy wolf
truly back to the dumpster
sturdy granite
Blizzard 
supple nymph
im surprised anyone bought into OW
how can you make up a valuation
based on nothing?
and get people to believe it
thorn holly
With 20k vierwers in every big tournaments who The fuck wants to buy a 20M spot???
wintry matrix
how many views apex pulls?[
thorn holly
Depends
clever portal
80k for finals
sturdy granite
I mean, if Blizzard actually tried to encourage viewership, it would be alot more successful
thorn holly
Its really hard to say because there are a 2 or 3 options to see APEX in Korea
balmy wolf
encourage organic growth
thorn holly
@clever portal i think It was more than 100k The Last final
forest raven
APEX had ~200k for season 2 finals
toxic yacht
hai draw 
forest raven
Yo yo
wintry matrix
prob because apex s2 had the greatest storyline in OW
clever portal
IMO owl should not even have been an idea till ow gets 200k views for games
wintry matrix
it'll probably get somewhere close to that once it starts
they are making a massive gamble tho
the last OW majors all the way back last year had good numbers right?
clever portal
Even if it fails we can watch omm 
toxic yacht
reminder that the OW Open had 100k+ views
wintry matrix
π€ hex
toxic yacht
that was in september
clever portal
Pretty sure 2016 events had good views
wintry matrix
the WC too
clever portal
2017 is F year
sturdy granite
Yep, pretty much once Carbon started, things got dry
wintry matrix
i'd assume that this WC will pull a fuckton of viewers, then things get started by that
clever portal
We'll find out soon
sturdy granite
@wintry matrix Probably
balmy wolf
OW Open 
sturdy granite
I feel like if Blizzard wants people to watch games, they could do it easily
toxic yacht
@amber ember where you at mate reeeeeeeeee
sturdy granite
While I haven't seen a whole lot of views, BEAT has actually been pretty enjoyable
clever portal
In game team items
Possibly also add percentage of loot box sales to prize pool like dota
wintry matrix
that be cool
clever portal
Would get tournaments to millions in prize money
wintry matrix
tho lootbox in OW ain't worth as much (in real money) as valve boxes
balmy wolf
so according to our guy, that article is hot air. Basically media bargaining.
wintry matrix
with all that super shady market shit
balmy wolf
take it as you will π
balmy wolf
basically yes.
wintry matrix
dunno about his realiability
clever portal
It is something for reddit to 
toxic yacht
literally all I know about rlewis is that he talks with thoorin a bunch, the LoL community hates him and "% joris"?
so yeah, I can't comment on his reliability
lol
also, "OW bigger than NFL"
I sincerely doubt
that anyone at blizzard
is this fucking delusional
toxic yacht
are you people trying to trigger me?
clever portal
Looking at the perception of the meta, itβs obvious that βdiveβ is the predominant strategy. Correction. It is the predominant strategy being used in the professional scene. The majority of Overwatch players play Quick Play as their primary mode. The top 6 picked heroes (over the last month) in Quick Play are Genji, 76, Hanzo, McCree, Mercy and Junkrat. For the statistical majority of Overwatch players who are not pros and donβt play Competitive, this is your meta.
supple nymph
wintry matrix
you both, uh, really trying to drive this meme into the ground eh
clever portal
DW I have a new one
Hello, it's Jeff Kaplan here, today was a very productive day at the office. We've been monitoring the quickplay statistics for console and it is evident that Sombra is not getting enough play time. Consequently, we have decided to increase her ultimate charge rate by 50%. We hope this doesn't have any negative impact on the pro scene, but as you all know quickplay takes priority here at Blizzard.
wintry matrix
and yeah, i also smelled a bit fishiness on the articule, but like i said, i dunno much about the guy
toxic yacht
atm it's pretty in to just say that OW is ded gaem and how the Blizzard are delusional retards running their game into the ground
whether you think that that's true or not, it's easy as shit to just write an article about that and reap the views
toxic yacht
I'll take everything "OW is ded gaem" with multiple truckloads of salt
wintry matrix
even with it was true, this kind of article i still so thin
i'd wish this kind of stuff was only written if it was substantial
toxic yacht
it's basically just "OWL is shit guise, look"
"this guy here said this one thing"
"oh guys, it's ded"
wintry matrix
tho that's kind of the state of journalism
wintry matrix
in that bomb soon threw i phisically felt how much of a fuck he didn't give to this tourney
approaching 12k
supple nymph
blazing parrot
immortals beat rogue?
forest raven
No
blazing parrot
howd it go down
blazing parrot
balmy wolf
and now they are capping Hollywood with ease
clever portal
@blazing parrot not dead 
wintry matrix
rip imt
blazing parrot
job
sturdy granite
IMT forgot they were defending
balmy wolf
sturdy granite
OMFG THIS CHAT
clever portal
NA production
balmy wolf
Envy sub? interesting
wintry matrix
never change OMM
balmy wolf
first time i see Envy play
wintry matrix
wait, waht happened with hyped?
clever portal
wintry matrix
also hex is a lizardman
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix sub. Envy is in
sturdy granite
ZP is broken
wintry matrix
but why hyped quit?
balmy wolf
coach decision?
supple nymph
balmy wolf
Nico showing NA genji is shit vs EU GEnji
sturdy granite
You're late
wintry matrix
slow
clever portal
:slowpoke:
sturdy granite
YO, we almost at 20k
balmy wolf
3-0 
sturdy granite
Who's hosting?
balmy wolf
"Ok since they are not listening to me, heres what Ive been waiting to say for 2 days. Immortals can win easily. We scrimmed them and believe me, envy on dps with hyped on flex is INSANE. They have one last map to make the call. all 3 KR on the field, grim on the bench."
Grim on bench
Sure xQc talks shit and all but he scrims them multiple times a week
Grim hasn't been showin up, at form what I've seen, so put envy on dps
why not
wintry matrix
i thought grim was way more consistent than agilities this tourney
not as a carry dps
balmy wolf
Agilities blade has been consistently shit this tourny
he has been playing drunk for 3 days now
wintry matrix
wut, IMT 2-0?
jagged crater
Is envy taking a break ? Dont see them in any recent tournies
jagged crater
finally, havent seen them face NA teams in a long time
vestal ermine
I'm kinda here. Watching the Rogue vs IMT
wintry matrix
OH SHIT BOIS
sturdy granite
LETS GO BOYS!!!
wintry matrix
i feel you hex
balmy wolf
Route 66 was nearly
if only that visor successful 
22K viewers
and chats having KRs
π€
wintry matrix
interesting that they are probably watching solely because of a player or two
balmy wolf
that teamfight lasted for like 4 minutes
did talk to 
about how to stall or something?
thorn holly
FUCK 2CP
balmy wolf
Unkoee?
sturdy granite
Ok Immortals, don't let AKM walk up and death blossom
balmy wolf
lolz
slim summit
nooo the time advantage is huge
balmy wolf
you didn't see Unkoee last two days
went from a joke in 2CP
now if you are going to 2CP against
you are suicidal
slim summit
woo
sturdy granite
HOLY SHIT
vestal ermine
HYPE!!!
gusty notch
exciting overwatch games? 
digital kraken
imt playing good
slim summit
YES
jagged crater
Kariv is a god sombrero
wintry matrix
LETS TUFKCING GO BOIS
supple nymph
THROW
feral solar
O SHIT
digital kraken
that hack
digital kraken
won them that game
limber pine
WOW
solid spear
GAME 7 
sturdy granite
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!
pure wren
limber pine
SWEEP
feral solar
I M M O R T A L S
digital kraken
holy crap
limber pine
PEEWS
feral solar
haHAA
forest raven
POG FUCKING CHAMP
jagged crater
hex roastin rogue
limber pine
he's right though
wintry matrix
:blessrng: i used to be in a happy dream but now i'm a grim reality :blessrng:
or such
jagged crater
rogue best NA team until NA figures them out :)!
supple nymph
EXPOSED
slim summit
why is HLC not in the pool?
feral solar
2 CP
supple nymph
because it sucks
wintry matrix
because it is new i think
jagged crater
unkoe god tier sombrero ?
jagged crater
2cp enables the sombra meta! π
slim summit
all that's left is 2cp and ilios
supple nymph
limber pine
also 25k viewers
balmy wolf
There's something to be said about needing 3 KRs to win vs
slim summit
lol more than avg total watching overwatch
balmy wolf
everyone is wanting for a death but all I can think is that
orgs in the long run will try to import KR talents
instead of fostering talents in NA
digital kraken
this is my first time really watching competitive overwatch and its really fun
balmy wolf
KR imported a coach, and 4 KRs, and they had to switch out Hyped to bring Envy in
which alone is kind of a 
for me
digital kraken
only prob i have is you have to follow like 5 channels to see the games its not all in one place
wintry matrix
you don't need to follow, it's generally in this channel or the subreddit, which twitch channel will stream
eh
IMT were looking for upgrades
tho i don't think envy single-handed won for then
balmy wolf
it will at least open the floodgate for sure
which is more damning of the NA scene lack of talents tbh
there's something to be said about 
and potentially ruling the NA roost
wintry matrix
the countdown for NA to get their shit together is already running
clever wagon
Fuck
wintry matrix
as in coaching and teamwork
wintry matrix
to be fair these are unsigned teams
i had more in mind teams like both Luminosities
balmy wolf
LG Evil
supple nymph
LOOL
wintry matrix
the 3-way trade is kinda of an example of bad planning
slim summit
fffff
clever wagon
So how far did OW eSports fall today
jagged crater
LOL
wintry matrix
26k, not bad
slim summit
edgy
balmy wolf
people come to see bleeds
clever wagon
Well, stuck, stagnate, fall, certainly not improve, at least for now
I'm honestly burnt out from playing and watching
wintry matrix
no shame in taking a break
clever wagon
That it's hard to even feel the least bit optimistic
slim summit
YES
wintry matrix
i'm a superfan of the game and got burnt out
digital kraken
imt gods
sturdy granite
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
clever wagon
Like
Even as a plat I had to get mad with my team playing Reinhardt and towards the Rein himself because we were playing against dive and he was busy screaming in text chat telling others to switch around him, and eventuall another guy switched to Winston, that Reinhardt to Lucio, and we reverse swept
wintry matrix
online competitive games man
clever wagon
Anecdotal, but in my eyes that's how easy it is to run dive against any other comp
wintry matrix
can't escape that
slim summit
sombra is so good
clever wagon
So good that in the scenarios she's used the usage is borderline abusive with how teams are close to getting 2 EMPs in a single fight
wintry matrix
i just hope people keep using her after the eventual ult rate nerf
slim summit
balancing ult rate is hard i think
iron cedar
Oh they still will
slim summit
everyone had like a -20% nerf around xmas
iron cedar
Emp is just too good.
slim summit
pros still get ults constantly
gusty notch
that was fucking 
as hell
wintry matrix
FUCK
gusty notch
nooooooooooooo
balmy wolf
NICO
slim summit
π’
digital kraken
omg
sturdy granite
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
slim summit
what if draw
digital kraken
^that would be awesome
wintry matrix
WE ARE IN FUCKING 27K I DON even care anyomre
slim summit
another match on ilios?
wintry matrix
i think so, bo3
balmy wolf
KARIV
jagged crater
oh no the koreans died first D:
slim summit
nooooooooooo
digital kraken
gg
balmy wolf
jagged crater
oh no, felt like an unlucky sequence of events at the end
wintry matrix
jagged crater
after all that
digital kraken
^
wintry matrix
if Runaway stuck together at the end of apex s2, this wouldn't had happened
wintry matrix
i think IMT has way more potential for improving than selfless
actually, selfless was kinda doing the opposite the last few months
jagged crater
rip selfless π¦
balmy wolf
you know what's funny from this tournament though?
supple nymph
xqc?
wintry matrix
being in korea does that
supple nymph
feral solar
was a good game
forest raven
I'm just so sad
clever wagon
@wintry matrix pretty much because Dafran was out and Selfless imploded along with him though
clever wagon
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
balmy wolf
now everyone is claiming that is tier 1
and they can challenge again
meanwhile nobody remember Selfless
and the similar hype cycle that went completely nose dived.
solid spear
Selfless is kinda different though
even without Dafran leaving
the meta shifting wasnt kind to them
supple nymph
π·
wintry matrix
i legit think IMT is at least tier 1.5
the only thing stopping them from being tier 1 (if inferior to rogue and nv) is the na curse of inconsistency
but they seem to be the team that had the least of that
balmy wolf
they are below APEX teams atm. They need to win a LAN to prove themselves as a Western powerhouse (that has half of the roster being KRs)
again, monthly online wins are meaningless in the long run
the barometer of a team's strength can only be judge by their LAN performance
solid spear
I mean there arent really LANs rn
and the one IMT did go to they won
it just didnt have strong teams
balmy wolf
which is kind of a tragedy in itself. And NGE was a LAN full of disbnanded team
solid spear
but thats not their fault
wintry matrix
oh yeah
solid spear
Seagull 
wintry matrix
tho honestly, saying who's in which tier is just speculation
there's little data to affirm that is or that it isn't
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix there's plenty of data
LAN wins and finishes
and Contenders will have a LAN so there's that
balmy wolf
NGE Winter Premiere at this points might not even counts
CoL, LG Loyal and old Kungarna were all disbanded
and all the LAN tested team like Fnatic and Cloud9 was busy getting their shit kicked in in APEX
and half of the roster that won NGE is FA
and soon to be 2 thirds because Hyped is about to get his walking paper 
supple nymph
I M P O R T S
wintry matrix
was envy really that better today? i didn't see it like that
balmy wolf
he threw at points but his DM was rather clutch
he protected his backline a lot vs Soon compared to Hyped
it is going to be funny when and potentially being the teams that rule the NA roost
because there's only 3 fucking NAs between those 3 teams
the rest is imported.
wintry matrix
maybe their styles are just different
wintry matrix
if cloud9 wasn't fazeing
balmy wolf
I'm going to say IMT is tier 1 now
With an OWL spot locked and this new 50% KR roster
hold the hype train ffs
They're only going up
I dont even care about them
I only ever liked agilities
sturdy granite
Unlike Selfless, IMT has at least looked stable and growing since the beginning of the year
solid spear
reeee
balmy wolf
Contenders will be the test
but you never know when the spector of the NA scene going to loom over them
balmy wolf
well, NA teams can step up, but it is a long fucking way to go
and yes, FAZE will get a team house this month
wintry matrix
step up in the contenders i mean
because all of the na teams that qualified showed some degree of inconsistency
balmy wolf
maybe with the team house the FaZe can stop doing their Virtus Pro impression.
wintry matrix
only TL and IMT are on the uprising
balmy wolf
sdb on LAN
and they both has π°π·
which is again, still damning to NA talent pool
What talent pool 
only NA members are AZK, Dahang, MESR and ID_
but ID_ potentially might get replaced by Fury
and AZK is kind of in a spot where he might get upgraded too
with the amount of talent pool we have in free agency
AZK, DaHanG, MESR and id_*
wintry matrix
also rapha
balmy wolf
yeah he is too
clever wagon
Mfw TviQ is in this server
balmy wolf
Werent you here when we talked to him?
clever wagon
No
vestal mortar
Good times
vestal mortar
Yes
clever wagon
I just remembered that he's here when I saw his name on trusted
clever portal
Pros in this server
clever portal
Competitive as in the game or the esports?
bleak silo
e sports
bleak silo
all orgs are releasing their rosters
clever portal
So for the OWL Blizzard is not looking for orgs
red anvil
it can still save itself, but blizz needs to kick themselfs in their butt
clever portal
They're looking for normal investors like sports teams and companies
Most orgs don't have 20 million to buy in
So they release their rosters
Also, what most people don't tell you
Is that most these released teams weren't top level
There are many teams filled with free agents which are much better than some teams with orgs
For example orgs like Fnatic and EG would probably want a high level roster
Probably atleast competitive in tournaments
But their rosters were mid tier NA
The EU side is more brutal imo
As top level teams were released
balmy wolf
Well Fnatic's was tier 1 or maybe tier 1.5 before iddqd left
clever portal
That was a long time ago
clever wagon
Too long
clever portal
You could argue that they might have returned to that level with Talespin's addition
@clever wagon read it 
balmy wolf
I think they would have personally
Buds' Genji and Pharah are sick but obviously Talespin has the better pharah
And he's been grinding Genji since leaving Envy
So buds could go full hitscan
coolmatt, buds, realzx, talespin, custa and stoop
π© π
Stoop did want to go to analyst though so I wonder who'd they pick up in his place
balmy wolf
no monkas 
balmy wolf
almost like runaway in the s2 finals
clever portal
No DGood for the foreseeable future
balmy wolf
im just gonna put it on one of my servers then
clever portal
Apparently TwoEasy has it
Not sure if that's a public server though
Or if it's global
balmy wolf
clever portal
clever portal
Is this an overwatch roster?
crisp lynx
I don't know what team it is.
it can be kongdoo's 3rd team or kongdoo's overseas team.
or PUBG, Hots, etc.
only i know, new kongdoo team will be announced in July.
clever portal
I think third team would be going too far
red anvil
just finished watching the finals
deamn immortals
would been too good if they managed that sweep
crisp lynx
kariv β€
AFB 'try to' recruit new member who can play offtank,flex.
donghyun could be released or changing role.
crisp lynx
my explanation was not enough. Korea team is open to recruiting players.
they announced to public recruitment. Just started it today.
https://twitter.com/afreecafreecsow/status/884268973511983104
clever portal
Ah okay
red anvil
huh new KD team or?
crisp lynx
kd team of something
red anvil
pine star
Anyone saw that article by Richard Lewis?
clever portal
Yes
crisp lynx
I read it, too.
mention of cod league was surprising. so, my owl fantasy was a little broken.
clever portal
That part was interesting
Though I'm not sure why people would expect to be in the cod league as well
clever portal
π π
red anvil
crisp lynx
"I canβt imagine a solution to this dilemma, except to plead with all my heart that Blizzard prioritize balance for those who dedicate their dreams, careers, and lives to Overwatch."
clever portal
Rip
balmy wolf
wary falcon
game has bright future
pine star
Misfits next? 
crisp lynx
No pls
balmy wolf
Reminder that the Richard Lewis thing is hot air
And also according to Pesto
There will be good news
pine star
Is interesting to say the least
balmy wolf
It is media bargaining
pine star
...what insight could Pesto possibly have?
pine star
Does it tho? Some orgs don't shit, why would pro talk?
balmy wolf
It does.
News flows from one side to other. It is only a matter of when
I'm willing to wait before from now till the end of August we have plenty of OW to watch
balmy wolf
Last year production was pretty good. Not going to look forward to all night spectating tho
pine star
?
forest raven
The roster will most likely still compete
supple nymph
does blizzard pay travel?
pine star
You mean Riders?
supple nymph
Yes
balmy wolf
Travel for what?
supple nymph
isnt the playoffs a lan?
balmy wolf
The finals are
pine star
I'm pretty sure all the season is LAN
clever portal
Most tournaments pay for all travel and accommodation
Other than for example Finnish 10k lan
pine star
Oh right
supple nymph
playoffs != finals? 
pine star
No
clever portal
In other games playoffs 'finals' is also semis
clever portal
If some team literally left
They might have to have some games to decide who comes in
Would be easier in NA
Because there was a 5th and 6th place
pine star
balmy wolf
LAN finals usually will involves some form of playoff with it
because having just 2 team play doesn't make that much economic sense
"top 4 teams advance to offline finals"
chances are in OW Contenders the offline finals will be some form of playoff
crisp lynx
it is same way as current apex challengers.
8 teams 1st round -> top 6 teams 2nd round -> top 4 teams goes promotion. and promotion is LAN.
crisp lynx
yes, promotion is canceled. and AF red is 6th. rip
supple nymph
i think polo is just trolling
rapid oxide
richard lewis is a retard
balmy wolf
Nah its just Finals @balmy wolf
clever portal
Polo vs ReignWolf
balmy wolf
What happened to moviestars?
red anvil
red anvil
indeed π¦
red anvil
pine star
Dad jokes
supple nymph
wonder why the kept them signed until now
getting to s1 was the best possible outcome
pine star
Contract
supple nymph
fuck contracts
solid spear
balmy wolf
hopefully misfits
crisp lynx
No. pls.
balmy wolf
I just want misfits for bingo
Reminder that Movistar didnt chose to resign their roster, as in the case of every OW PR announcement. Misfits still have Tviq so they probably wont drop the roster. But i wonder if taking Cwoosh or any other Swedish hitscan talents would help them
They got a coach though so hopefully their inconcsistency is being ironed out
Like
You are right though reign, having just two teams for LAN is pretty weird
wanton bronze
ooo
Cant watch since Im at work but pls say they arent running doomfist with other dive stuff
crisp lynx
it will start in 5min.
wanton bronze
oh
balmy wolf
this looks like MAOD vs some team called Ardeont
crisp lynx
MAOD=Ardeont - kariv&fate, actually mighty was disband,
balmy wolf
ooooohh
solid spear
Oh they're streaming it naisu
crisp lynx
winner get $1k.
crisp lynx
toxic yacht
meta deservers better :(
Ironically, Meta Athena got fucked by the meta
Hope that next season has a meta that allows them to be stronk again and actually lets hoon play zarya
wanton bronze
I heard Zarya and doomfist make a good combo