no score still
#esports-discussion
red anvil
balmy wolf
i can't help but feel like those who complained about Roadhog's 1HK
is now in an ironic situation
solid spear
its still 0-0 
wintry matrix
damn you beat me to it
toxic yacht
IMT paid them so that no one can see that they lost a map to CLG
now this map is more of how I was expecting the game to go
red anvil
colors wrong agian lol
toxic yacht
lol
solid spear
wtf was that primal
balmy wolf
wrong team name too
red anvil
or rather ingame team name
balmy wolf
CLG - Agilities 
red anvil
CLG vs CLG
toxic yacht
lol
vestal mortar
welp
balmy wolf
Hydration LUL
wintry matrix
is the fact that IMT took a while to finish that stagger a bad sign?
gusty notch
how does this shit only have 3k viewers
supple nymph
six
balmy wolf
lolz
solid spear
what is this game lol
red anvil
i think all is drunk
wintry matrix
man, these support ults
red anvil
agilites deffo drunk
toxic yacht
agilities
wintry matrix
yep
solid spear
._.
wintry matrix
welp, CLG 2-0
toxic yacht
I wouldn't be proud of this win
wintry matrix
slow
toxic yacht
wtf
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix click on the link, mate
wintry matrix
inb4 IMT flails and LGE steps up and actually makes ROgue sweat
oh, i thought it was the same
agilities made me drunk by proxy
vestal mortar
same
solid spear
lul
wintry matrix
well, goldenboy is presenter
i guess if they would want jkap, would it be for casting/desk
supple nymph
@vestal mortar soe
vestal mortar
YES!
solid spear
vestal mortar
I'll try get photos with as many peoples as I can
wintry matrix
see, it's such an AMM already
balmy wolf
remember when there's an OMM where there's no fuck up in production?
I certainly don't remember
wintry matrix
prob OMM June 2017 
balmy wolf
that EMP was so bad
Immortals clearly know that the EMP was coming
and then Kariv just counter ult
balmy wolf
wtf was Agilities doing
balmy wolf
Chance is out of Immortals though
wintry matrix
i forgot
supple nymph
wintry matrix
actually no sign of slasher yet
wintry matrix
THIS GAME
supple nymph
imt has brain damage
wintry matrix
this is great
reverse sweeping 
wintry matrix
yeah, IMT is a fat smol spartan
balmy wolf
What a carry
supple nymph
wintry matrix
if you count the russian stream we have 5k
the best part about arc6 playing is the brief time that xqc can't type
supple nymph
why do they have a russian stream?
supple nymph
why do they have russian casting?
wintry matrix
training, maybe it's a BEAT thing
clever portal
π 
feral solar
sorry if i missed it but whats happening with selfless ow now?
supple nymph
org got dumpstered
feral solar
yeh i saw that
supple nymph
except dafran
feral solar
it said in the statement they might be playing for different teams
clever portal
Just a positive statement
Basically whole team free agents other than Sinatraa and dafran
quasi python
rip carpe
supple nymph
na production
supple nymph
fix the sound...
supple nymph
LOL
clever portal
Why did you cancel online tournaments BabyRage
balmy wolf
because people miss shitty camerawork that's why
all those Contenders cameraworks threads made me so mad
finally an APEX tier camera work and they bitched inneccessitantly about it
supple nymph
not sure it was really on the level of apex
security camera mode and random switching 1 second before kills are confirmed
balmy wolf
APEX was still confusing as fucks.
and honestly Contenders was a significant step up
one is an entertainment company vs an actual TV station
so there's some small rough edge but if you think about it Carbon's cameraworks was pretty APEX tier if you think about it
mighty hornet
The esports scene is trash. A first person game is just never going to work
solid spear
.-.
sturdy granite
@mighty hornet CSGO
clever wagon
Don't even bother
wintry matrix
i wonder how the LGE changes will do against stronger teams
balmy wolf
BAIT
wintry matrix
tho envi got a map
clever wagon
What LGE changes
mighty hornet
@sturdy granite Csgo is different. It is more of an individual game. Everything happens at once in Overwatch. And it is a team game. Just doesn't go well together.
balmy wolf
CSGO is an individual game
the bait is real
also @clever wagon Voll on Winston, Super on D.va
clever wagon
But it's still a first person shooter so you might want to improve your sentence making
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
sturdy granite
I honestly wonder if Jeff has ever watched a pro game outside of the World cup
clever wagon
Well, they said the team do
clever wagon
Doesn't seem like they recognize the issues at the moment though, but they're developers with their workload cut out for them so what do I know
solid spear
Voll/Super switch is interesting I guess....Train on proj over Jake too
With Jake's pool as deep as it is I guess you can makes swaps easily
sturdy granite
Damn, Nice Defense
balmy wolf
lol
wintry matrix
i'm not there, but LGE seems to be with low spirits
like taimou's burnout
or rather, this is the impression i'm getting
sturdy granite
How did McGravy not die there?
balmy wolf
magic?
wintry matrix
i mean more in general terms
tho ofc, that also is very demoralizing
i thought they would go straight into vacation from what Jake said in stream
these weeb casters smh
i wonder if LGL passed their curse onto LGE
sturdy granite
Idk man, now that most of the weaker teams have dropped, it's getting hard to tell who's good, bad, or just inconsistent
balmy wolf
LGE has been inconsistent since the tank meta ended
Now they're just dropping off the deep end
sturdy granite
Which is a shame, because at one point, I think they could have continued to become as good as current IMT
balmy wolf
clever wagon
Not watching, not watching BEAT
balmy wolf
Team Chimera vs Faint Gaming
sturdy granite
GL
balmy wolf
3-0 in Hollywood with 3+ minute atm
clever wagon
BlessRNG
limber pine
apparently DF is already nerfed
wintry matrix
PTR out?
limber pine
new patch as of
like an hour ago?
I saw somewhere Rocket Punch max range is down to 20 meters from 30
clever portal
Is rocket punch the charge?
limber pine
yes
sturdy granite
EV's positioning has looked great this series
balmy wolf
that NA barrage
supple nymph
anyone tell them the stream went down?
supple nymph
limber pine
that's...an odd emoji
balmy wolf
OMM was better than Contenders 
supple nymph
only Contenders can save us now
sturdy granite
Resumes in 1 minute!
balmy wolf
EnV are gonna get fuuucked
sturdy granite
IMT please be gentle
sturdy granite
InB4 Luminosity picks up LG Courage, which is just Selfless with a red Luminosity logo
supple nymph
isnt there a good possibility they will both get dropped?
sturdy granite
It's a little sad to watch, once some of the weaker teams started dropping, its like the floor dropped, and teams further up that have been shaky lately are getting dropped faster and faster. Unfortnately, there is always going to be some who lose, and with everything going on lately, teams are dropping faster than ever before.
Hopefully, OWL is a seperate entity entirely, and dropped players will feed teams created for the league, in addition to some teams changing into OWL teams.
Streams down again, hope is lost
balmy wolf
Remember when OMM was a superior production to OW Contenders?
solid spear
So dont know how much talent will be on the outside looking in
wintry matrix
it's sad, but they haven't been performing greatly, so it's somewhat predictable
i feel like it's only truly depressing in cases like cyclones and runaway
sturdy granite
@balmy wolf How'd your match go?
wintry matrix
but also they stayed a long time without sponsors
sturdy granite
Welp, at least Metroid Fusion is being speedran, so I got something to watch
balmy wolf
lolz
sturdy granite
legit one of my fav games though, so I'm not even mad
supple nymph
TwitLonger Official Sponsor of Overwatch Contenders
sturdy granite
lul
balmy wolf
https://www.twitch.tv/softlocke my team in the final now
supple nymph
both playing dive
someone should tell them it's just their perception that they have to do that
balmy wolf
lolz
gusty notch
supple nymph
then when they lose that's also perception π
supple nymph
how can someone see that every pro match on the planet is running the same comps and think that nothing is wrong?
balmy wolf
the answer: they don't
supple nymph
the meta is loot boxes
sturdy granite
R.I.P. my EV dreamsπ’
wintry matrix
btw, they're changing production for the rest of the tourney
sturdy granite
thank J3SUS
balmy wolf
KARIV
sturdy granite
JARU
wintry matrix
as in someone else hosting the stream, i don't think they meant anything fancy
balmy wolf
how have NA teams beeing doing at apex lately?
gusty notch
rogue got eliminated from groups cause they had to face the best teams
envyus got to semi finals but got rekt
balmy wolf
who'd envy lose to
wary falcon
Selfless csgo disbanded
gusty notch
Stomp
balmy wolf
AF Blue and Kongdoo Panthera rekt nV
meanwhile 
won Takeover 2 and only lost to the 2 finalists 
and 
but 
> for whatever reason
gusty notch
NV throwing last game
balmy wolf
Taimou needs to take a shit
gusty notch
It'll be interesting to see which team is better now
balmy wolf
depends
with EFFECT was able to pull wool over people's eyes
by beating luminary oppositions such as RGW, a depleted Meta Athena, X6 and BK Stars
EFFECT is basically just a better Talespin
same hero pool as well
gusty notch
Can effect pharah 
balmy wolf
probably not
meanwhile beat 
, 
, ex NIP, Cyclowns enrouted to their first place finish in Takeover 2
so in term of strength of schedule
> atm
toxic yacht
no one knows
rumours that they are disbanding or something
π’
due to some discord chat with surefour that got leaked on thighmou's stream
Kaiser 
He's relatively popular over here and also a very good reinhardt, so normally I'd say that he'd find a team fast, but it's currently dive and his monkey is 
:(
nice deletation π
clever wagon
"Perception of balance is stronger than balance itself" Surely there's something to talk about when literally no region in the pro scene utilize anything other than dive though....?
toxic yacht
if that's even a word
clever wagon
"Deletion"
toxic yacht
π
rapid oxide
solid spear
lul
red anvil
there good for giggles once in a while
vestal mortar
I love #esports-discussion C:
red anvil
nah nerf them both and buff mercy
solid spear
wait no pls
clever portal
I bet there's some closet mercy mains here 
solid spear
Ive got nothing against Mercy mains 
red anvil
neither do i, but it's fun to joke around about
balmy wolf
so did anyone post the thread about Zonda's POV on OW now?
"He says that FW were scrimming the "top 4" of Korea towards the end of the season due to a lack of scrimming partners on both sides.
-Apparently FW got absolutely destroyed by AF Blue in scrims. Zonda described their coordination and set piece plays as perfect. He believes Donghyun is the unsung star of the team.
-Claims FW took a few maps off Envy, but Envy consistently beat them. He states that he himself went try hard in practice and regretted not taking the Envy games as an opportunity to learn. He primarily played Soldier 76. He believes Envy were a better team overall and had superior teamwork and coordination. (This will be super interesting for the World Cup as it confirms that KyKy will have first hand knowledge on how Flash Wolves play)."
wintry matrix
was OPC that one sided he felt bored by the end?
balmy wolf
yeah
balmy wolf
Does Blank have a coach?
they are channel the spirit of the NA scene if they don't have a coach
balmy wolf
or "friend with advice"
toxic yacht
kyky gonna try to avoid the Flash Wolves total stomp
balmy wolf
I mean if Flash Wolves is consistently scrimming KR teams though
it is a total possibility
well
half of the team flunked out of Contenders
so you know
clever portal
FW can beat USA
Having talent mean nothing if they have no synergy
Or dont practise
solid spear
they can its possible
balmy wolf
I mean the DPS pair of team USA is LAN-untested
and also their team has been on a downturn
clever portal
They played USA vs Canada LAN 
wintry matrix
i wouldn't discount USA so soon
clever portal
I'm not getting my hopes up
wintry matrix
i could be wrong, but maybe he build the team with an idea in mind, that's why maybe some "Unpopular" picks
clever portal
They will NA it
wintry matrix
or maybe it was just ego and friend based, the hell i know
but i have hope it'll be a decent showing
balmy wolf
oh definitely
Rawkus and Fctfiction tank pair is kind of iffy as well
but then Team Liquid tank line probably has better things to do than trying to play WC
dat 1 million Quake prize pot
balmy wolf
the DPS are untested at LAN
Sinatraa/JAKE never played at a LAN before
which to me is a huge redflag
clever portal
Are USA Shanghai?
balmy wolf
USA is USA, mate
wintry matrix
oh yeah, i forgot people could just refuse playing in the WC too
clever portal
Imo, Poland and Sydney are
balmy wolf
every qualifiers are interesting
except for Shanghai
because the mere presence of Rogue
the race to 2nd spot is infinitely more interesting
since it is a race between Romania, Thailand, Hongkong, Denmark and Norway
don't think China will be very good
solid spear
toxic yacht
sock 9
wary falcon
when WC starts?
balmy wolf
next weekend
clever portal
14th
red anvil
China vs Romania, Hong Kong vs Norway, France vs. Argentina, Denmark vs. Thailand 14th 
do we got the time it starts?
wary falcon
you don't have to go to work early if you don't have job
toxic yacht
red anvil
Plan was to take next week off, but i offered to come in anyways to help finishing a project, bad planning 
vestal mortar
π
red anvil
78% upvote, its true
toxic yacht
yeah, I have no idea why I engaged in that argument
lol
waste of time
the guy is fucking retarded
supple nymph
clever portal
lmao
balmy wolf
this reminded me of a time where someone told me in the OW that Alicus is a shit manager
6 months later and LK is pretty fucking memetic
wary falcon
Is he good manager?
toxic yacht
judging by
everythign he has done
in such a short amount of time
the guy
seems fucking amazing
wary falcon
what has he done?
clever portal
Build all of LK
wary falcon
i don't know much except Rogue and LK
clever portal
Bought Claris and Munchkin away from LH
toxic yacht
mostly how much he achieved for LK in such a short amount of time
also, he's the guy
behind old misfits
solid spear
I mean whether or not you agree with him cant really take away from what hes done
clever portal
Made top tier EU team
balmy wolf
LK is still largely unproven
and despite finishing top 4 in Contenders
they sometimes showed that the KR imports actually didn't matter that much
clever portal
Still doesn't mean that it's not an achievement
He completely built the team himself
balmy wolf
online wise yes, but as far as tier goes LK is still unproven
if they make it to the LAN final then sure
now though, they are in the same tier as LG Evil and the likes
wary falcon
top tier EU team
Actually you can stick together 2 russians, 3 swedes and 1 german
to become top tier eu team
solid spear
Its an achievement nonetheless
solid spear
People are only going to acknowledge it if they agree though
solid spear
If they dont agree with it then its lol doesnt matter Alicus is dumb if they do it's lol based Alicus youre circlejerking
Subs been trash for months
red anvil
i'll agree with him when the best counter to dive is not dive
then i'll say the game is in a good state
but no doubt he is a voice that has a huge say in if the game is in a good state or not
and from what i've seen from him before, he's not afraid to voice something if it needs to be voiced
clever portal
Game needs stability and some league level play
For example like OPC
But in NA/EU
And KR
balmy wolf
I found it infinitely amusing that people pined for the day of OMM, and not forgotting how horrible it usually is in term of cameraworks and production
meanwhile the BEATS invitational just bring people to the reality again
after shitting on Carbon Entertainment's absolutely top tier production
and @clever portal next month we will have our shit
solid spear
Thing is not even all top tier pros/coaches agree on whether or not the game is in a good state people are just gonna latch onto people they personally agree with...if you like the game rn its easy to be oh Alicus/Tviq said so youre all retards and the other way around too you can be all Zonda or whatever said this it has to be true and use that
its all confirmation bias
red anvil
pretty much, like i thinks jeffs thoughts are correct, just the execution that is wrong, winston was already getting a lot of play prior to his sensible buffs, without those buffs we might not be in the situation we are now
meta just felt so good back in apex s2
wary falcon
beyblade?
solid spear
I mean like I personally disagree with a lot of what Jeff was saying but I think he was even saying not everyone at Blizz is agreement with everything, clearly the same can be said for pros and coaches too its not that black and white which is fine
wary falcon
so after nanoboost nerf?
solid spear
but everyone just resorts to oh youre circlejerking oh your dumb oh youre bronze if someone disagrees with them
red anvil
yeah, when dive was a thing but optimal
but often executed with zarya rather then D.va
wary falcon
i hope OW will have meta based on heroes like mccree
solid spear
clever portal
NAVI LUL
wary falcon
without cobblestone drops
solid spear
Polo
balmy wolf
in Final
clever portal
moon2smug spam
red anvil
Mighty kaiser has new main? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njllHmmBMAE
wary falcon
be as good as c9
red anvil
wary falcon
so be good only when summer?
balmy wolf
they qualified for major, and now in final in ESL Cologne
so yeah, pretty good summer for them so far
supple nymph
@balmy wolf they just lost 60k viewers 
wary falcon
sad thing that c9 only good when it's summer
balmy wolf
@supple nymph it can reach 300K next match. SK vs Faze is another hotly anticipated match
wary falcon
when summer ends they turn into tier-3 shit with best B duo (nothing+shroud)
name me more iconic duo than nothing and shroud on B cache
balmy wolf
I mean there's also VP and their online ineptude
name me a more iconic duo than VP and being in a slump everywhere but majors
wary falcon
they are in slump on majors too
they are just bad nowadays
pasha said they will change players after Krakow major
supple nymph
FINED AND BANNED
wintry matrix
btw, do we have info about the number of the matches and how long will Contenders s1 and OWL last?
balmy wolf
stop playing fucking PubG then. Playing PubG before Starladder is just embarrassing
@wintry matrix Contenders S1 will be 6 weeks
OWL? No clue
wintry matrix
i asked this in mind of what alicus said about there being few matches, so teams are less prone to experimenting
clever portal
Yes, Contenders S1 going to be good
clever portal
All the NA fans have hope
supple nymph
just imagine in a few months OW will be like this
they will have figured out dozens of counters to dive
clever portal
So did Slasher ever show up
wintry matrix
nop
clever portal
I saw a game and he wasn't there
wintry matrix
the matches didn't even start and the stream already is down
clever portal
Sopti posted already?
Damn
Gamsu was called the best rein in KR by many pros
His team never made it far so Reins like Janus and Kaiser were more well known
wintry matrix
the post no, he just said here that gamsu was leaving
clever portal
Twilight was a decent sombra player
Conbox was one of the first teams to run Sombra a lot
The complexity of KR
His Ana play was okay
Zenyatta not so much
supple nymph
last time fnrgfe played arc6 they won 4:0 but when they were yikes! they lost 1:3
wintry matrix
if they were Yoinks would be 4-0 for them
wintry matrix
2.5k
supple nymph
wintry matrix
why?
balmy wolf
Because of the amount of rezzes
supple nymph
wintry matrix
WIDOW ALERT
vestal mortar
Buds 
red anvil
b2b koth?
wintry matrix
but i think they can choose wherever mode they want?
balmy wolf
loser pick
so yes
but like I said
"we just lost on a KOTH. Let's play on another KOTH"
that's the only explanation I know
wintry matrix
aren't they better on KOTh anyway?
vestal mortar
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
balmy wolf
not against 
wintry matrix
BTW THERE'S STILL WIDOW
balmy wolf
their dominance on KOTH is based around Pharmercy
but they are even more one note than NIP at their height
so you know
wintry matrix
maybe they banked on winning the other two maps with pharah
vestal mortar
Phew
supple nymph
S E L L O U T
vestal mortar
tf2 hahahaha
vestal mortar
Heh
wintry matrix
tho FNRGFE always lose the point at 99
balmy wolf
but why would you dump yourself down from ex Fnatic to a team that flunked out of Contenders?
supple nymph
T R I C K L E
wintry matrix
i'd assume he didn't have any better offers at the moment
balmy wolf
they seems to have some trouble trying to retain their ult to finish a map
insistence on going toe vs toe with Pharmercy against 
also doesn't help
just play Tracer/Soldier
supple nymph
LOL
wintry matrix
that's why they choose ilios
supple nymph
c9
red anvil
reaper working radicilously well
limber pine
xQc is an odd duck
red anvil
more reaper 
balmy wolf
Reaper is ridiculously tanky
wintry matrix
inb4 FNRGFE are intentionally throwing so they don't have to play rogue
vestal mortar
Oh snap
clever portal
clever portal
60 rounds π΄
balmy wolf
SK vs C9 final though
can C9 pull their heroic from ESL Pro League final of last year?
versed sinew
vestal mortar
Is this more csgo talk?
wintry matrix
Arc6 will take the baguette first
supple nymph
π₯
vestal mortar
lmao
boot camping in KR?
vestal mortar
seems like it
supple nymph
shaking my leg
vestal mortar
Heh
vestal mortar
yee
balmy wolf
At least they wont just Pharmercy their way out of trouble it seems
supple nymph
π₯
red anvil
Nice price
gusty notch
baguette bois time
red anvil
loaf and total humanization
red anvil
i dont think i've seen rogue since apex now
red anvil
oh right that was after
supple nymph
vestal mortar
I haven't watched any rogue games since APEX
red anvil
would be nice if they got some alterantive strats now
clever portal
Running non dive
red anvil
i can only dream π¦
balmy wolf
Can't wait to see my boy xQc get bummed by some frenchies 
supple nymph
oh hey rogue doing orisa that's diff.. ohh nevermind.
red anvil
gusty notch
2 2 2 better than their triple dps?
red anvil
their tripple dps stopped working around the start of apex, counters were found
balmy wolf
lmao loody
gusty notch
the counter was just run a bunch of tanks last point that just never die wasnt it
red anvil
LH countered it with tripple support actually
supple nymph
I DONT UNDERSTAND
balmy wolf
My god soon used bomb and got it back in one fight
wintry matrix
welp, it was fun while it lasted
red anvil
i think rogue stopped playing with the eyes closed
wintry matrix
i even put Initial D music to see if Tempo wins one map at least
red anvil
lol appropiate
gusty notch
dreamkazper damn
spring lintel
Oh shit, rogue aren't rolling tempo?
gusty notch
not at all
wintry matrix
BETTER GET UNDER A ROOF
red anvil
rogue tried to play with them at the start with an alternative comp though
so props for that
spring lintel
I stopped watching esport like a couple of months ago, when rogue were rolling everyone in na
spring lintel
Rip rogue
supple nymph
DASDSADSDSA
red anvil
THEIR ACTUALLY TAKING A MAP
red anvil
WAT
limber pine
WUUUUUUUUUUUT
gusty notch
wintry matrix
NOW I'M HYPE AS SHIT
spring lintel
Lets fucking go
quasi python
warming upp
vestal mortar
red anvil
i dont expect anything but 3-1 for rogue still
wintry matrix
we are ven in 8k now
gusty notch
inb4 3-1
red anvil
but still taking a map from rogue is big
spring lintel
Theres no nrg ? π€¦
wintry matrix
the stream should be titled "ROGUE LOST ONE MAP" just for viewers storming in
gusty notch
vestal mortar
NRG are rebuilding again
vestal mortar
No idea, they only have 3 signed players right now
gusty notch
who is on the team besides harb and idd again
spring lintel
Whos the main tank
vestal mortar
Numlocked
vestal mortar
I heard they are trying some KR people
spring lintel
Mino or whatevee his name
red anvil
wouldent be suprised if they go for Sinatraa
vestal mortar
No idea of any names
gusty notch
sinatra would be good
spring lintel
Sinatraa is the least wanted in nrg
red anvil
would replace snow that is on trail for them now but
spring lintel
Both iddqd and harb can tracer
gusty notch
harbs tracer is useless
iron cedar
What happened?
ppl were freaking out a few minutes ago.
supple nymph
balmy wolf
TwoEasy has pressured Unkoee/Winz a lot
vestal mortar
TwoEasy was the problem amirite 
red anvil
naw rogue just ended up in a bad group again 
supple nymph
LOL
vestal mortar
lmao
spring lintel
Wtf
red anvil
naw arhan just lays down and dies
wintry matrix
probably
clever portal
What comp are rogue running?
supple nymph
time 2 throw
red anvil
they are just trying to be more flexiable
supple nymph
red anvil
well they got two back 
wintry matrix
not agreeing or disagreeing, but that's what they mean when they say rogue is inflexible, as in not being good on other comps
supple nymph
nico blade = zero kills
balmy wolf
AKM!
red anvil
LOL
supple nymph
c9
red anvil
C9999
wintry matrix
welp, it was fun while it lasted
balmy wolf
Picking 2cp against Rogue π© π
wintry matrix
MCCREE ALERT
balmy wolf
Unkoee on Sombra
red anvil
rogue is just burning them alive now
balmy wolf
well yeah its 2cp
supple nymph
MEAT GRINDER
sturdy granite
THEY USED 6 ULTS AND DIDNT GET A TICK
balmy wolf
2CP is balanced - Jeph
sturdy granite
J3SUS CHRIST ROGUE
red anvil
well gg.
supple nymph
Our Quick Play stats show 2 cp is fine - Jeph
vestal mortar
sturdy granite
Nico Puttin in work
short vault
@balmy wolf 
red anvil
i like the amount of mccree that have appeared in recent dive comps
sturdy granite
MCCREE
solid spear
just gotta see if Silk actually stays
limber pine
does Arc6 have another new logo?
balmy wolf
maybe
sturdy granite
"Rogue will 4-0 IMT" LUL
supple nymph
rogue paid to throw
gusty notch
toxic yacht
I tune in
gusty notch
2-0
supple nymph
LOOL
balmy wolf
Rogue probably needs a coach
or shake up the rust really badly
of course they has reverse sweeped people before
so never counts them out
balmy wolf
is rusty and also trying out new shits
AKM on D.va for example
and this Pharmercy stuff
wintry matrix
is it still the "akm phara throw" meme?
balmy wolf
maybe?
gusty notch
holy shit
balmy wolf
reminder that they took 2 months off of TakeTV win
hold your horses from the is shit now
wintry matrix
i just wanna see them lose
balmy wolf
they probably will
wintry matrix
tho only AKM dva was new, phamercy they ran before in AMM
wintry matrix
was it?, my memory is fishy
balmy wolf
yes it was
personally Rogue needs to shake their rust off. They has time to enjoy their 25K
so losing some 6K online tournament isn't going to take away their place in tier
wintry matrix
i dunno about that mentality, i know it's a small tourney, but still
man, these arc6 ults
solid spear
I tune in and Rogue down 2-0 
balmy wolf
Arc6 won OMM May and then flunked out of Contenders
like, which matters more? Small time online tournament or potential to actually get a LAN?
online wins are fine to determine strength of a scene at some point in time
but it is volatile for the most part
supple nymph
they should have just done 16 teams
wintry matrix
im not saying it's super important, but to me still a lost is a lost
i'm not saying rogue is suddenly trash either
let me phrase it better, i just don't like the mentality of going into tourney thinking it doesn't matter so we won't play our best
or something along these lines
not saying i know if they have that mentality or not
balmy wolf
it is only my opinion that it is fine if they lose in here
idk about what the Frenchies are thinking in LV
wintry matrix
oh, i just want them to lose for the memes and trash-talk
that, and i don't like them
balmy wolf
they still won more LANs than anyone else
so you know, they probably won't lose any sleeps
wintry matrix
considering that winz tweet about nv i don't think he considers proportionality in these matters
balmy wolf
got like 7K for reaching the top 4 of APEX
meanwhile scored 25K winning TakeOver 2
so who ended up worst?
wintry matrix
i mean, in terms of money i don't think both of these amounts matters that much
sturdy granite
DAmn, that barrage tho
tough agate
gusty notch
i thought tournament prize money didnt really matter
balmy wolf
another perspective
has to beat Cyclown, NIP on their road to Takeover 2 1st place
meanwhile fought 
RGW 
and BK Stars
and even then only finished fourth
wintry matrix
not to take demerit from rogue, but Cyclowns was getting poached, c9 is still pretty iconsistent, and NIP in this meta turned to RIP
i don't think these situations are very comparable (also because takeover was only eu)
wintry matrix
i think the comparable situation was apex where both got rekt by KDP
balmy wolf
of course, the meme and the counter trash talk will flow regardless
solid spear
