Enhanced dive meta incoming
#esports-discussion
pine star
balmy wolf
and also Doomfist can do his own version of the dashboost 🤔
you know, the thing that they nerfed Genji for?
wintry matrix
dashboost?
pine star
Holy shit he can just melt people with his dash combo
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix edge boost
balmy wolf
so a lot of the things about doomfist lined up from his leaks
so whoever here was saying that leaks was not reliable? 
balmy wolf
he also hit a lot of things right too
also Doomfist The Reinhardt counter
🕯 Reinhardt 🕯
wintry matrix
"he's being voiced by terry crews" 
balmy wolf
his shotgun doesn't have falloff 🤔
pine star
He moves faster than Tracer
He's also invulnerable while casting his ult
Unlike every attack hero
haughty inlet
ouch
limber pine
literally 80% of the stuff in the leak is false or only partially true
balmy wolf
it seems like the leak is designed to smoke out whoever is leaking
limber pine
that wouldn't surprise me
balmy wolf
can't say that it wasn't particularly close to reality or at least at that time
it has been like months after it
things can change during it as well
toxic yacht
btw
limber pine
i'm more likely to believe it was educated guessing
pine star
He can also save himself from envirokills pretty fucking easily
toxic yacht
do deal max damage with a rocket punch after an uppercut, you need to charge it to 2
I'm a doomfist main now
lul
balmy wolf
Roadhog hook can punished Doomfist, btw
but he can't instagib squishies anymore
so lol?
tfw Blizzard nerfed Roadhog to pave the way for Doomfist
wintry matrix
yeah, with doomfist, those road changes seems even weirder
maybe they're planning a deeper rework?
tho i hope those aren't final launch number for doomfist
toxic yacht
they're definitely reworking hog more
lul
I think that they just wanted to push him away from his instagib nonsense since hog is kinda badly designed
balmy wolf
and you can instagib people with Doomfist
wintry matrix
i know it's memeing, but hog can hook from safety while doom has get close
tho for now him getting close doesn't seem to offer much risk to him
toxic yacht
instagibbing with doom is harder than with hog
rapid oxide
toxic yacht
also, I don't know if you can instagib 200 hp heroes without any combos
wintry matrix
i think only that charge hability, with the 4 blocks or wathever
and it's prob counterable due to the wind-up time
toxic yacht
you can oneshot with a charge combo too
not sure if slam stuns people for a split second
BUT HE PLAYS SO WELL
OMG
genji was the only character with such an amazingly smooth kit
well, tracer too to some extent, but moreso genji
doomfist's kit also feels perfect
in terms of flow
especially because of how easily you can combo everything
has everything that I love about genji
balmy wolf
people 4 months ago: "Reinhardt is too boring"
Dive meta happened
Doomfist happened
people now: "please no Reinhardt come back"
balmy wolf
OW fanbase lacks foresights
it is always that cycle
and also, be careful what you wish for
solid spear
mah tanks 
wintry matrix
we're like that too
pine star
Lmfao
balmy wolf
Bug fix: fixing Doomfist's ability to dash to unintended location
wintry matrix
it's the rite of passage of an OW hero
balmy wolf
Not with Ana and Orisa lol
pine star
His ult reminds me of Galio ult in lol 
wary falcon
Sombra was considered as OP hero
balmy wolf
his presence absolutely kill the old triple tanks line up though
wary falcon
before release
pine star
He still looks like he requires a crazy level of mastery
pine star
Landing those combos on squishies ain't easy
toxic yacht
I mean, i spent half an hour practicing it on bots
pine star
Yeah lol, he plays cool af
toxic yacht
I got it down atm
not as well as genji's combos
but I can somewhat consistently reproduce oneshot combos
can't wait to see shadowburn play him
wary falcon
practice bots has huge hitbox
pine star
Did you test the Lshift + E + Punch combo?
He actually can run away faster than Tracer with that
toxic yacht
Lshift + E + punch?
wintry matrix
wait, was sombra buffed?
toxic yacht
didn't try it
wintry matrix
the translocator stuff
toxic yacht
only did shift + punch + slam + melee
pine star
Yeah, upper cut, E as far as you can aim and then fully charged right click
pine star
Ikr!
toxic yacht
also, does slam have a stun?
pine star
Yeah
Well, no stun
But knocks people a little up into the air
Tfw I have to go back to the office
limber pine
i literally just removed that clip from r/OW like 20 times
Seagull's army in full force
don't know who asked for damage figures earlier, but somebody tried: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6lnwy2/test_doomfists_damages_so_far/
wintry matrix
by those numbers he actually seems ok
pine star
@toxic yacht clip?
wintry matrix
it's kinda sad that he just laughs in mei'sface
toxic yacht
meteor strike + grav
https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantBovineLemurTheRinger
wintry matrix
i wonder if you can escape his ult by jumping
just now Seagull ulted and another doom escaped by uppercut
pure kettle
i went into a PTR match as ana
needless to say the doomfists were all extremely happy
was fun AF lol
was really fun to sleep dart a doomfist after he ults and then watch another doomfist plow him into a wall XD
limber pine
he has like "burst-mobility"
civic marsh
lmfao
pure kettle
LOL that poor genji!
toxic yacht
well, seagull is also 100x better than most of these people
and this is QP
so it's a bit inaccurate
but he still looks nutty
solid spear
probs need a bit of time to accurately know exactly how good the hero actually is
but at least its not like Orisa where you could tell out the gate that like no
clever portal
Wait
solid spear
well thats dumb
clever portal
Other team can't see his ult circle?
clever portal
Should probably see the same thing as him
versed sinew
you cant see anything until you activate it
and fall
and its just like flames or something that show up
civic marsh
weren't people calling for sombra nerfs when she was just released 🤔
didn't those people learn?
civic marsh
is e the ground pound
solid spear
yeah when Sombra was first announced everyone was saying shed be broken af
you just dont know out the gate especially with a character this cmplex
toxic yacht
e is the ground
clever portal
Sombra is broken though
clever portal
Just much harder to play than doomfist
toxic yacht
he has 250 HP
civic marsh
sombra wasn't broken when she first released though @clever portal
clever portal
Also c9 not choking 
solid spear
even now Sombra is fine if EMP didnt charge as fast as it did
civic marsh
agreed 100%
solid spear
Its really just like old Mei
ults up too often for what it does
but the characters fine
toxic yacht
got potg after my first doomfist game
lul
perfect chance to test the new highlight feature
exported in ultra 60 fps although I play on low 
they lied to me, it's not ultra
pine star
Shit's broken
limber pine
i think his passive will be what breaks him
there's possibility of tweeks there without overkill
solid spear
Reaper is different in the sense that he doesnt have that kind of mobility though
although Reapers hitbx isnt as big
clever portal
Doomfist Mobility is on cool down
solid spear
Reapers mobility is nonexistent
floral harness
with pretty low cooldown
solid spear
which is why that comparison is eh
clever portal
I think we need to see doomfist for some time in normal play
solid spear
I mean Im disappointed theres no balance patch in PTR though
limber pine
for what?
pine star
To end this fucking meta?
limber pine
i meant what kinds of large balance changes
pine star
Nerf D.Va into the ground and buff Bastion?
I don't know, just end it already
They should shake the meta every time it's about to become stale
Tbh
clever portal
Some form of DVa changes
Maybe visual or defence matrix tweaks
Harsh mercy changes
Winston tweaks to tune him down a bit
Sombra changes to lower ult charge on 2CP maps
The sombra one could be as simple as removing megas close to the point
pine star
solid spear
Winston a bigger issue than D.Va real talk shes just more annoying so thats why people focus on her
wintry matrix
like i said, dva is like sym/phamercy for low-level
the only change to the meta heroes i can see is increasing winstons bubble cooldown
supple nymph
TVIQ is doing scrims with doomfist https://www.twitch.tv/tvique
toxic yacht
👀
supple nymph
was he only banned a month?
supple nymph
guess this is PTR
toxic yacht
he was only comp banned for a season iirc
can still play custom games and stuff
probably
obv also banned from tournaments
solid spear
yeah its just comp
solid spear
yeah Dad
toxic yacht
scrimming with dafran atm would be dumb anyway since he can only play in their next tournement, which is who knows when
supple nymph
he would have to move to china to get on a team again
toxic yacht
wait, now that I think of it, they didn't get into contenders S1
dafran was only banned from s1 and s0
which would mean that he can technically play again
supple nymph
assuming they dont disband in the 4 months without any exposure
toxic yacht
doubt that they will
clever portal
Not even in beat invitational EleGiggle
balmy wolf
the next 2 months will be just WC
and then Contenders S1
unless there's Open League
Selfless is going to just twiddle their thumbs for quite sometime
clever portal
Apparently open division S1 doesn't include a promotion
So teams don't have to play
wintry matrix
i think it's just for the first one, after that prob will have promotions and what not
supple nymph
red anvil
deamn that i forgot to clip that earlier
solid spear
Dafran popping off 
red anvil
Dafran being Dafran
http://i.imgur.com/QjWInSn.png
solid spear
Im here
solid spear
I always change myname and picture lul
supple nymph
rogue beats all invitational...
toxic yacht
solid spear
oh yeah i forgot about the beats invitational
final river
Oh wow I was wondering how seagull gets 35k views, Doomfist outta no where.
balmy wolf
43k peak
final river
My first impression is that black Ryu is now playing ow
wintry matrix
i kinda want to hear the thoughts of people reinforce and yongbongtang about doom
wintry matrix
i'll miss the time he was banned
solid spear
vestal mortar
smh
solid spear
:3
balmy wolf
stfu oreo
solid spear
wait why
balmy wolf
"i'm reformed. I'm seagull now"
vestal mortar
No fighting, only esports
solid spear
we back
red anvil
He legit sounds so much better
supple nymph
he doesnt sound very repentant considering he ruined his team
wintry matrix
even in his twitlonger he made it clear he isn't repentant
limber pine
yup, he pretty much didn't give a shit
solid spear
limber pine
doomfist doesnt gain any shield for his normal attack
just abilities
also the shield degrade is odd too
his mechanics are...wierd
balmy wolf
his ult is ridiculous
solid spear
how so
balmy wolf
what do you mean how so
have you not seen it?
you move so fast and people cant see it until you select where you're landing
you can get a sixtuple kill with it by combo it with Grav
Literally instant
instant sextuple
fucking crazy
balmy wolf
there doesn't seems to be any counterplay to it as well.
It depends on how much damage it does
Soundbarrier could counter it
Trans would counter it
How?
although, 300 burst damage vs 300 hp per seconds
not quite sure tbh
Trans doesnt nothing against burst
🤔
It would be useless
that's what i just realized.
lmao
so i guess in internet debate one can't be forgiven for remember things wrong? ok
Hey man you watch tournaments and coach 2 teams
and are GM
I expect someone like that to know trans doesnt counter burst
mind you, Doomfist is new
all the details are just new. I'm not dealing with well known shit like Pulse bomb vs Trans
balmy wolf
either as dive or counter dive
his CC can counter dive vs the current tank line up
at the same time his ability to initiate is also very good when diving
mortal quiver
Cool, thanks.
balmy wolf
"He also said he's been in talks with c9, NRG and liquid and that they all want him."
On the scale of 1 to Dafran, how troll is this statement?
supple nymph
if you want better quality http://imgur.com/EUH50bg
balmy wolf
@supple nymph I mean, Liquid is the most sensible if they think that AZK is not up to par
but why would you want Dafran The thrower of world.
when there are better hitscan in the market
hell, Selly is probably a more sensible choice than Dafran.
balmy wolf
it has been retarded ever since the unraveling of teams
solid spear
he was joking -_-
supple nymph
if you want to do the troll/memer as an act that's fine
but if you can't ever be serious it's a problem
clever wagon
Ayy new OverView for Doomfist featuring Jake
solid spear
Jake nice
clever portal
How was the dafran stream
solid spear
still going tis nice
supple nymph
i thought apex prizes would be larger
3rd place match winner gets 10k usd loser 7k usd
that's like enough for plane tickets
balmy wolf
well
nV can go back home early now
which mean that Taimou can have like a few weeks of just absolutely destress
before Contenders S1
August 14 is when it started
Taimou can have at least 3 weeks of just destress and fapping
before going back to NA for two weeks for training lead up to S1
solid spear
legitrc duo 
supple nymph
i thought he was going right to AUS
balmy wolf
@thorn holly still at least 2 weeks of freedom up until then
thorn holly
Yes, he said yesterday that he wont play OW in 2 weeks
balmy wolf
2 weeks of getting KR fangirls to came to his hotel room 
and Mickie has to go elsewhere instead
supple nymph
can you get fined retroactively?
thorn holly
@clever portal Envy has to Play against AFB
clever portal
2 weeks to get fined by OGN 
clever portal
balmy wolf
@crisp lynx
any rumors about Lunatic Hai getting brought out to OWL as the team for Seoul?
Los Angeles Immortals tho
pine star
Poggers 
clever portal
gusty notch
balmy wolf
oh and by the way
the LA Immortals thing
aligned nicely to what i thought
basically non endemic owner + endemic owner
solid spear
Stream over 
clever portal
Atleast you got something out of your sub
solid spear
I resubbed anyway Kestler McDonalds doesnt pay enough 
crisp lynx
@balmy wolf There is no word about owl spot in Korea.
About LH. 2-3 days ago, Lunatic told fans they are planning to make an important announcement soon. They said it was not about Whoru.
oh, I just read reddit post about LH coach. it's same things.
obsidian hatch
Hi cool peeps
solid spear
Hiya
obsidian hatch
What do y'all listen to when u play
drifting mulch
low fi hip hop
clever wagon
Just go to the soundcloud or Youtube
drifting mulch
haha the very same stream
clever wagon
I think they're more up to date than the Spotify playlist
supple nymph
the soundcloud or youtube of what?
obsidian hatch
YeA^
clever wagon
Chilledcow -_-
drifting mulch
chilledcow is the best
obsidian hatch
Lol does overwatch have SoundCloud?
drifting mulch
you can play it in the background
clever wagon
eSports is also cool but Overwatch is still unclear about it
clever wagon
....
drifting mulch
drifting mulch
cool cool
supple nymph
general is just spam you cant talk there
drifting mulch
well i came here to ask a question
obsidian hatch
That is an ugly emoji lol
wintry matrix
but listening to Viper - Youll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack has all to do with esports
drifting mulch
im completely new to esports in general, and was wondering how to watch the upcoming overwatch world cup
clever wagon
Wait until it's streamed
wintry matrix
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Main_Page here you can find the dates and general info
clever wagon
Once it's started it'll pop up everywhere too
drifting mulch
thats what i assumed, does bilzard have there own twitch?
Thanks guys 😃
yeah this was what i was looking for, thanks
not much point in watching esports, since korea hasnt been nerfed yet
drifting mulch
haha
clever wagon
What's the point of nerfing the best performing region and the one that raises the standards
clever wagon
You know what's hilarious about that joke
That it's possible some people actually think like that
clever wagon
The joke itself is an unfunny circlejerk at this point
drifting mulch
lol
crisp lynx
mvp infinity looks like disband. all player said they are FA.
crisp lynx
Brek, Climax, easybro, WhyNot
they was same group with nV in apex S2.
recently been out of the challengers but some of the players are still good
crisp lynx
fickle basin
crisp lynx
I just saw the ESPN article and Korean fans are hype on the Seoul owl spot.
even there is no domestic news related to it.
solid spear
truly beautiful
balmy wolf
There was so many people gunning for that LA spot
crisp lynx
As I know there's other team house around LA. isn't it?
balmy wolf
yeah
clever wagon
Didn't Hog's M2 get a massive decrease to <= 200 dmg per shot?
feral solar
is the nV game today?
balmy wolf
yes
forest raven
Season 4 might be no foreign teams
Or Timo was like "I'm not going back to Korea again you can't make me"
solid spear
another Dafran stream blessed
balmy wolf
BEATS Invitational is today btw
clever wagon
How long til it starts?
forest raven
15h
clever wagon
Wait ain't u AUS?
forest raven
Yeah
forest raven
That's probably worse lmao
clever portal
Dafran lul
solid spear
nothing specific no
clever portal
The world cup actually works out for him
He'll be unbanned in september
So he can join for contenders s2
solid spear
We'll see what happens hope for the best
red anvil
Does Selfless really need him at all now that they got carpe though?
having a wildcard like that cant be good for the team
solid spear
Hes not returning to Selfless
clever portal
They're probably not on good terms as well
Getting banned a few weeks before a major
red anvil
i thought he was still with selfless, just inactive?
clever portal
That was PR
red anvil
fair enough i guess
clever portal
So how stupid is it that this game is a Bo7
balmy wolf
Why would it be
clever portal
Ah, I see what you mean
I meant that Bronze match doesn't have high stakes
It's for pride and a small change in prize money
They should just have a Bo5
balmy wolf
well 3.5k is quite the difference
balmy wolf
LAN
balmy wolf
forest raven
clever wagon
Will Timo do anything he wants for the last day in APEX?
That is, pulling McCree out
feral solar
what is the prize money difference between 3rd and 4th
clever wagon
Does 4th even get anything?
feral solar
im not sure
clever wagon
Let's see if you're gonna give us 60fps gameplay OGN
If you don't, so much for KR production
clever wagon
Jesus the sound-video lag
clever wagon
There's this noticeable video lag on my end
NotLikeThis
Bo7, will NV have the experience advantage?
2 x 2cp WutFace
What is this abomination
clever wagon
Set 3 and 5 bruh
red anvil
ah nvm ^^
clever wagon
Unless either one ends it with 4-0
vagrant mural
Envy don't fail pls
Miro for SK
vagrant mural
Lmao Mano vs Miro wasn't even a question to be contested
clever wagon
"It's not a season of OGN without getting fined" - Timo who hasn't been fined
Maybe he needs to get fined to win 
balmy wolf
People can stop hugging Miro's nuts. The committee made their choice
clever portal
Cocco smile
toxic yacht
I'm not gonna be here for the entire match, but nV is gonna 4-0 them again lul
vagrant mural
Probably not
red anvil
Mccree 
red anvil
TAIMOU DEAMN IT
clever wagon
Is less likely to be WINNABLE
red anvil
curious to see if we get a mccree vs. mccre later
clever wagon
Also, gameplay is still fucking 30fps
red anvil
😦
red anvil
they said they would look into it for next match
clever wagon
NV got cucked
It all started by AFB fucking backcapping
While NV was spawncamping
FailFish
red anvil
lol nooped off?
vagrant mural
Probably landed after a leap and was close to edge
feral solar
airhan
clever wagon
Arhan ULT LUL
It's not even slashing air anymore
Time to watch my dude Airhan losing targets
vagrant mural
C9
red anvil
lol wups
clever portal
red anvil
Everyone who plays outside the meta gets my cheer 
clever wagon
I mean
vagrant mural
So you cheer for Pharmacy?
clever wagon
Isn't dive lowkey S1 no limit meta?
clever wagon
Just with 1-2 hero swaps here and there, but the foundation is still the same
red anvil
unfortuantly yup
vagrant mural
Sort of I guess
red anvil
wait no tracer
vagrant mural
It was 2x Tracer 2x Winston 2x Lucio on koth maps
red anvil
have i seen this before in Apex s3
toxic yacht
mfw arhan slashes the air and swaps to sombra because he sux
clever wagon
Cmon Sojum
Often times he even aren't slashing air anymore
Just looking for targets
toxic yacht
he will never stop being a meme as long as he keeps having shit blades
clever wagon
Because he ults when there are barely any target anymore 
toxic yacht
lmao
clever wagon
Or those said targets actually didn't need any ult to clean up
clever wagon
ArHaN lowkey channeling plat and lower genji with bad ult decisions
clever portal
Close I guess
vagrant mural
-_--------'
vagrant mural
Taimou just playing what he thinks is fun
clever wagon
Shuold I keep watching or play Akiba's Trip
toxic yacht
keep watching
red anvil
that was early
clever wagon
KyKy can't show his tattoos 
supple nymph
chips looks pissed
clever wagon
NV's mentality is probably in shambles
clever wagon
Mickie just being Mickie but they're beyond his moodmaking unless something is done
toxic yacht
I think that they're all tilted af
I just want them
to go back to NA
and finally rest
vagrant mural
KYKY COME
toxic yacht
effect be like "I made a mistake"
mickie also isn't smiling :(
ah, he's smiling now
clever portal
LUL
They called pause early because Kyky just got the news that they got sold to NRG
clever wagon
NRG thinks everything can be solved with money as usual
vagrant mural
They're not wrong, they could buyout a decent team
Except most top tier teams are loyal
So they're just buying mediocre
HI I'M MCCREE I HAVE NO WAY TO GET AWAY FROM MONKEY DVA
clever wagon
I mean if he wanted Timo could probably just go Hog and still be more helpful
Better savor those last days of old Hog in APEX
The very last refuge available
vagrant mural
Probably don't want to bother keep playing a dead hero
clever wagon
"old Hog" wasn't as dead as "reworked" Hog
vagrant mural
What I mean is that there's no point in continue playing a hero when he knows he wont play it in the future lol
clever wagon
The point is having at least a bit easier time than going McCree balls deep lmao
vagrant mural
I think Envy is taking this as a high level scrim rather than a on the line tourny match
feral solar
toxic yacht
yeah
envy isn't giving a single fuck
lmao
feelsbad
I'd like to see a game where both of them are playing seriously
clever wagon
I'll set Twitch to my 2nd monitor and launch Akiba's Trip
red anvil
Another 4-0? >_>
toxic yacht
looks like it, lol
vagrant mural
#infinitebandwidthlife
clever wagon
It's pretty much horror and despair watching this
toxic yacht
AIRHAN STRIKES BACK
red anvil
effect carrying so hard
toxic yacht
seriously arhan should get less greedy with his swords >.<
he's a very good genji
but his swords are all that we see
it makes him look like shit lmao
vagrant mural
I WANT WHORU BACK
feral solar
WHERERU
clever portal
clever wagon
Did Arhan dash straight at him?
feral solar
feral solar
cant slash the air if you die in the first second
red anvil
LOOOOL
wary falcon
HAHAHA
feral solar
wary falcon
no ult refund
vagrant mural
Ye
feral solar
vagrant mural
Old
clever portal
R/Overwatch 
feral solar
i dont really go to any other channels except this and general
red anvil
😦 no widow
clever portal
Widow hard on hana
feral solar
oh god
red anvil
Arhan pls
red anvil
jumped on top of torb
clever portal
He ran to point B to hide
red anvil
torb probably right clicked him to death
toxic yacht
...
feral solar
clever wagon
I put Twitch on 2nd monitor, stopped Akiba's Trip thinking they finally got their shit together
red anvil
phew not a full hold again
clever wagon
And this is what I get
clever portal
Surprising they didn't get a single kill
clever wagon
Another zoning DeadEye
clever wagon
I shut down Akiba's Trip for this?
red anvil
that was amazing
vagrant mural
I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANO GOT THERE WITHOUT ANYONE SEEING
red anvil
and effect should have almost seen him, he was in opposite side
if he just turned slightly to the left
vagrant mural
It's rough I guess in the heat of the situation
nova wadi
na flash
vagrant mural
Saving for second push
For point B**
Chips ult 5v6????
AFB NO DEFENSIVE ULT CMON ENVY
red anvil
shame it wasent a kill
toxic yacht
How's the score rn?
red anvil
2-1 AFB
red anvil
Dafran called off throwing4dafran yesterday, taimou must have missed it
Looks like 3-1
red anvil
mercy wracking envy
final river
rip, at least not a 4-0
clever portal
Plz someone tell Taimou throw4dafran is over
final river
coach will tactical pause to tell him
toxic yacht
Ya
red anvil
OMG
REIN
and rein dies FeelsBadMan
coco throwing as well now
yeah he was released with doomfist y'day
gg. envy
final river
"I don't think they gave a shit"
glad chasm
Terrible look for taimou
Esp for being such a weak link dps compared to the top Koreans
smoky hinge
I wonder if he is still doing the world cup, considering the fact that he's being paid for partaking in it anyway
I know he won't take it seriously, but I'm going to the Sydney stage and he'll be there
gentle oasis
Why shouldn't he take it seriously?
supple nymph
why shouldn't he take 3rd place match seriously
why not take handhshakes seriously
🤷
gentle oasis
for once I guess the whole team didn't care much
Team Finland wants to go to the OWL finals I guess so it's not like Taimous going to throw matches there
clever portal
velvet scarab
pine star
Twitter
smoky hinge
The world cup was a joke last year anyway, it was just "there"
there was no prize pool, just each player paid 3 grand along with basically a free trip to blizzcon
clever portal
Taimou lul
Too bad world cup pay is good
Otherwise he could have had more time off
@crisp lynx
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gentle oasis
I agree with Effect whatever it is he's saying
but I believe it has something to do with the match today idk
clever portal
pine star
Dafran 
clever portal
balmy wolf
And remember, 
is a godlike Western team so manage to get to semis
by beating teams like RGW, 
, 
and 🦏
red anvil
What will s4 be without envy and fines
balmy wolf
meanwhile 
is trash for losing to 
and 
clever wagon
OGN grouping is always best guys 👌🏻
balmy wolf
EnvyUs because we only have good groupings
clever wagon
But I mean srsly tho
wary falcon
7k dollars for 4th place?
this is some serious shit
why they even playing overwatch
gusty notch
I mean the prize pools should get better for owl now
pine star
The prize pool doesn't really matter in a sports franchise
balmy wolf
@wary falcon 8 millions won
clever wagon
Instead of having Misfits/Rogue groups & NV group happening twice in a row, I'd rather Rogue and NV duke it out in the west
pine star
If there's a prize pool, it's just for show
gentle oasis
I guess the price money goes to the org in this case
wary falcon
and what is their salary?
balmy wolf
around 1.5K to 3K
gentle oasis
that's something I don't know
toxic yacht
All the money
balmy wolf
3K is nV and Rogue level of salary
which is the highest
and honestly the prize money will get split between the players
with the orgs getting just a small part of it
gusty notch
Doesn't nrg get a lot?
balmy wolf
more than half a mil for their trouble so far
and now they get invested by Sacramento Kings
is there a world where a negative plus a negative equals a positive?
clever portal
NRG get paid more than rogue and NV
pine star
Twitter
clever portal
But they're OWL
pine star
Echo Fox in OWL confirmed 👀
toxic yacht
Echo Fox Selfless guise?;??)!??!!
clever portal
Selfless 
pine star
Poggers
balmy wolf
Self "our star DPS imploded and so did we" less
truly, Selfless
once one player goes down
pine star
Helpless
flat jewel
G2 lost to NaVi feelsbadman
balmy wolf
S U P E R T E A M
flat jewel
ughhhh
pine star
I smell LoL
flat jewel
They only do well against random t2 teams and only occasionally the t1 team
clever wagon
CSGO rather @pine star
balmy wolf
NIP 1-1 C9 now
flat jewel
wtf we talking GoldenEye source
pine star
Yeah just realized NaVi
balmy wolf
wary falcon
navi is cis superteam
balmy wolf
tfw OW will never have this kind of stage
pine star
I stopped following CSGO long time ago lol
wary falcon
s1mple and flamie are best players in whole region, seized after switching to IGL is not the same