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limber pine
wintry matrix
1-1
fierce geode
Imt gonna take it all
solid spear
1-1
balmy wolf
and playoff collapse. Name a more iconic duo.
limber pine
that would be funny if the one majorly sponsered team didn't make it in
5he Detroit Renegades
wintry matrix
IMT and Liquid are huge tho don't they?
supple nymph
@balmy wolf nrg and uhh everything collapse
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix right now 
vs 
will be fireworks
wintry matrix
yes, i hope so
fierce geode
He means an org outside of esports
wary falcon
my boy Azk will beat shit out of them
wintry matrix
tho i wouldn't be surprised if it turned into a snorefest also
not even a stomp snorefest, just a snorefest in general
clever portal
Immortals have won, unless Liquid or FNRGFE turn on god mode
limber pine
and has already started calling themselves by their hometown and all that fun stuff
balmy wolf
@limber pine channel their Detroit Lions spirit
supple nymph
Twitter
wintry matrix
oh, got it
limber pine
@balmy wolf ouch
clever portal
Humble? 
supple nymph
Twitter
limber pine
oh AJAX
wintry matrix
no chill
clever portal
clever portal
Could be event related thing?
For example, they only show games 2 hours before they happen
So maybe they have nothing to list the games
Because they get decided as the day goes on
wary falcon
Game was on site but i was too slow to bet
balmy wolf
Twitter
wary falcon
It's because OW has little scene and few people bet on OW
i can't imagine same thing happens with LoL or Dota
wary falcon
Overwatch is actually pretty safe
clever portal
If you bet on Liquid or C9 you're throwing harder than the teams themselves
I would say Apex is safe
balmy wolf
2-1
clever portal
Isn't world of tanks a RU game
RU is weird
Insane views on twitch for the esports they like
Dota literally has more RU views sometimes
clever portal
Too bad they won't play casual games like OW
Atleast we got KR like League
But no Brazil and Russia
wary falcon
Nobody watch WoT because of entertainment
wintry matrix
leak Crusade actually FNRGFE
wary falcon
Can't type well on my retarded phonr
wintry matrix
must be a stacked team to poach them off LK, alicus outplayed
supple nymph
Twitter
limber pine
good
wintry matrix
Liquid's red horse kinda looks awesome
balmy wolf
Kophee: "I love when people just write us off because we're the underdogs. It's weird to me that every "good" team we beat was either throwing or had a bad day. We defeated Team Liquid to qualify into group stages, and we'll beat them again."
wintry matrix
he's not wrong
clever portal
Shadder Pharah lul
wintry matrix
they stayed for contender didn't they?
balmy wolf
I thought they were supposed to but shadder tweeted "thanks for the bootcamp @nvidiageforce" on the 3rd
unless he was just randomly thanking them
according to my friend
they are elsewhere
but still in NA
clever portal
supple nymph
T H R O W
supple nymph
what pros like overwatch?
balmy wolf
A lot of them
wintry matrix
at least outspoken
clever portal
I heard clockwork is reformed
wintry matrix
Taimou liked, Clockwork hated from the start didn't he?
clever portal
But that was reddit
balmy wolf
Well its been months since he's said he hates the game
so he could have changed his opinion
I feel like he has
considering hes still playing
supple nymph
boom
clever portal
Muma triggered from that res by RNG
wintry matrix
i'd say that last EMP looked weird, but he'll get another anyway
balmy wolf
Shadder :c
clever portal
Need to pick non sombra map
supple nymph
fickle basin
Yeah, Its hard for Europe to watch when its so late
wintry matrix
maybe has to do with sunday? csgo still going?
weary fossil
it's 1 am here
supple nymph
NA watching pubg
wintry matrix
forgot that
clever portal
What is games done quick
supple nymph
Summer Games Done Quick 2017 is a speedrunning marathon benefiting Doctors Without Borders.
balmy wolf
A charity event with speedrunning
wintry matrix
who are summit and sodapoppin?
they're bringing the biggest viewer numbers rn to PUBG
supple nymph
summit is the guy with the monster fridge
balmy wolf
Rapha on Widow 
clever portal
Summit is a big streamer like Lirik
fickle basin
supple nymph
another paid established team getting dumpstered by cobbled together team
wintry matrix
how they get held?
clever portal
Wasted too much time on early pushes
FNRGFE also playing smart
Clockwork playing much better than Azk
balmy wolf
Too much quake 
supple nymph
too much dive
supple nymph
tactical dc
dusty surge
10 min ban for FNRGFE pls. Goddamn leavers.
wintry matrix
someone left?
dusty surge
Someone disconnected, yeah.
It's somewhat disappointing how many of these games have people disconnecting. I'd expect more stability for people making a career out of gaming.
clever portal
NA version of tactical pause
supple nymph
R I G G E D
wintry matrix
i'd be very sad if they lost out of the momentum lost in this
supple nymph
FAILURE
wintry matrix
the gods of esport must really hate liquid
balmy wolf
LG's got this
Boink with the throwing sound barrier
Dahang keep dying with the EMP though
hallow fable
do we know who won out of envision and renegrades?
wintry matrix
rng
halcyon nymph
Dahang's sombra is super questionable imo
wintry matrix
3-1
halcyon nymph
his tracking makes me cry and his emp usage..
halcyon nymph
like that past round the whole liquid team was inside building using the hacked mega
weary fossil
don't worry, he plays sombra like most people play sombra
clever portal
It's passable
halcyon nymph
idk, his emp usage makes me cry, his tracking makes me cry
clever wagon
What is this, Liquid being questionable? I thought that word was off their books coming into Contenders
halcyon nymph
LUUL
that sombra potg, that tracking was just the sum up of my feelings on his performance
halcyon nymph
yeah but even if it worked out, it wasn't clean
balmy wolf
He's got some time to polish it
weary fossil
is he even a dps main
halcyon nymph
idk, his sombra is questionable as fuck imo, and running sombra on hanamura B is questionable in itself
weary fossil
sombra is played as a support here
clever portal
He is a support
weary fossil
really just be annoying and for the emp
halcyon nymph
Hanamura B is the worst 2cp point for sombra imo
weary fossil
not to get all the kills
clever portal
Hollywood good choice
halcyon nymph
So like, they played sombra on a kinda poor map for her, and with a kinda poor player on her... that's not really a smart decision imo
clever portal
You want Shadder on sombra?
balmy wolf
A win is a win
halcyon nymph
if he was a godlike sombra, or if it was anubis or volskaya, sure lol
halcyon nymph
nah i think just putting him on an actual support would have been cleaner
halcyon nymph
yeah who knows
limber pine
halcyon nymph
tbh who knows how a zen would have worked out compared to the sombra
Idk, i just feel ike it's questionable on many levels
the map choice for sombra is bad, the player on sombra is kinda bleh
Also the thing that's really bad imo
is the moment where he emps while his whole team is farming the mega inside the building
balmy wolf
Your prayers have been heard lol
halcyon nymph
that's just lack (or complete void) of communication ๐ฆ
i'm a fan of sombra tho overall, i think she's really good against dive
wintry matrix
dat graviton
halcyon nymph
Shadder is a lot better on sombra it feels
balmy wolf
He has better aim
halcyon nymph
and idk, even comms wise
weary fossil
he wasted hes ult earlier
halcyon nymph
it seems like they're communicating the EMP better
wintry matrix
dat graviton
halcyon nymph
I think Dva ate the pulse bomb in the neat grav on first point tho
balmy wolf
Sleep
hallow fable
This feels like a reverse sweep
wintry matrix
BUDS
balmy wolf
Why are they choking??!
wintry matrix
nooooooo
clever portal
No choke, they're being sombra'd
halcyon nymph
if liquid wants to play sombra they need shadder on her tho
hallow fable
fnrgfe, has the be the most pita name to say.
halcyon nymph
which kinda limits the comps they can play, unless dahang has some pocket dps picks or something
wintry matrix
fnrgfe 
wintry matrix
yes
balmy wolf
the comeback is REAL
halcyon nymph
that was a real c9 there
balmy wolf
NO
clever portal
Yeah, so Illios Nepal or Lijiang
wintry matrix
if only there wasn't that dc on hanamura
clever portal
But Illios might be banned from map pool
hallow fable
Think this will go 5 rounds?
hallow fable
erm, in control.
clever portal
If Liquid keep it up, control will be 3-0
balmy wolf
pulling a reverse 
halcyon nymph
i don't like how they're like "the gravs were spot on but there wasn't follow up"
that means the gravs weren't spot on :/
clever portal
Suprised they won that
hallow fable
they got their mojo back?
clever portal
That one long fight looked bad for them
balmy wolf
COME ON LIQUID
dusty surge
LOL
balmy wolf
loooool
dusty surge
Tactical. Pause.
hallow fable
yeah. wtf was that
balmy wolf
Beautiful
clever portal
Getting recked by Sombra, now triple dps
hallow fable
fnrgfe has been taking first fights.
hallow fable
I never pay attention to twicthchat when watching streams.
hallow fable
nicesu
wintry matrix
LET'S GO CORNDOGGO BOIS
clever portal
Last round map RNG will decide who wins
FNRGFE will probably lose this map
Pharah plain bad here
Maybe if you're S4 or Mangachu you run it
hallow fable
yeah
hallow fable
yup
wintry matrix
NO
clever portal
Map should have been done 20% ago
wintry matrix
pls fnrgfe don choke
dusty surge
Damn... close round.
dusty surge
Because we already had Oasis, and Illios is Illios.
halcyon nymph
lijiang tho
clever portal
Only this or Lijiang
gg
They got stomped on this map last time
Lost because of C9
halcyon nymph
illios is the worst of the koth maps
well, lighthouse is ok but the other 2
sPuke
dusty surge
Illios is too environmental kill heavy. It's still better than 2cp though. :P
wintry matrix
Ilios is great, can't get the hate
wintry matrix
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
wintry matrix
IMT avenge corndoggo pls 
viral ledge
the reverse sweep fuck me I love this
sturdy granite
InB4 IMT slaughters TL
hallow fable
^
opaque owl
Who rage quit?
clever portal
Going to happen
limber pine
hallow fable
is contenders s1 just 8 teams each region?
limber pine
wintry matrix
yes
wintry matrix
wait, finals aren't today?
hallow fable
theya re done casting
balmy wolf
Monte and DoA are casting the finals
wintry matrix
oh, blinked for a se
limber pine
what's wrong with mine
limber pine
no thanks
balmy wolf
D:
limber pine
balmy wolf
tfw almost every pin is about contenders
livid sparrow
IMMORTALS VS LIQUID ๐ฎ AGILITIES VS SHADDER!
gusty notch
Time to watch my boi Kariv have trans every fight
clever portal
He has a point
I think Timo/xQc are asking for the wrong things though
Unless they actually want 3 dps
xQc I saying he wants matrix nerf
weary fossil
what if they nerf winston shield instead, will he rage
clever portal
I would say DVa dive has a lot less 'luck' than 3 dps
weary fossil
matrix is fine
gusty notch
Dvas just infuriating
clever portal
It's true, but she is stopping the meta
If you take her away, 3 DPS is even more cancer
No way will someone run Zarya, when Zarya gets destroyed by Dive
Ideally winston/rein get 50/50 play
It would fix this meta
Not some DVa nerfs
wintry matrix
remember that is also a matter of perspectiver
may be prejudice on my part, but a lot of NA pros seems to stuborn/lazy/uncreative to try to think of an alternative
gusty notch
I mean koreans haven't created an alternative either
wintry matrix
also the fact that the scene is still in influx, there's very few teams really established (as in lineup and synergy and what not)
clever portal
To an extent they have
gusty notch
To dive?
wintry matrix
they have tried tho at least, 3 sups
clever portal
For example LH focuses DVa hard
gusty notch
I mean ppl tried quad tank here
clever portal
3 support is good against Genji, that's it
gusty notch
It actually worked for one game lol
wintry matrix
also it's not only a matter of comp, there's also playstyle
clever portal
If he ults you stand together and discord/boop/nade
He will die
Yeah playstyle makes a difference
Every NA team seems to be aggressive dive
Meanwhile in EU you have teams like eUnited
Or LK
clever portal
SOURCE?
wintry matrix
WHYYYYYYYY?
gusty notch
Xqc discord
wintry matrix
i hope that's just for practice
gusty notch
xqcArc6 Arc6 Roster Update:
Custa (previously on Team Fnatic) has joined @Arc6OW as their sixth player!
Twitter
Nah he's fully apart of the team
wintry matrix
fatfinger
balmy wolf
APEX
supple nymph
boom headshot
shrewd moss
whos watching immortals v liquid?
hallow fable
26k souls.
wintry matrix
C'MON
gusty notch
Wut
hallow fable
man
gusty notch
๐ค
limber pine
*13th
wintry matrix
maybe there was stuff he wanted deleted
limber pine
that's a lot of stuff
wintry matrix
i mean, i doubt anyone would have anything of value in an account
gusty notch
He's said some pretty things
wintry matrix
dahang doesn't look very comfortable in sombra does he?
limber pine
He looked fine last round
wintry matrix
good TMZ subreddit
clever wagon
What shit
supple nymph
taimou deleting 6 months of tweets
clever wagon
Oh that
balmy wolf
timo is reformed
clever wagon
Reformed Timo 
clever wagon
Busy thinking about the 1mil prize pool in QC
supple nymph
LOL
clever wagon
Also how much of a better game QC is to get that prize pool since he doesn't have to depend on anybody for duels, which also means he won't need to share the prize with 5 other people
supple nymph
wintry matrix
the same argument for fighting games
clever wagon
Tfw normies think pro eSport players are "getting paid to play games" when it's almost pretty much like a normal job - there are cases when a game you aren't particularly invested in actually pays more than a game you prefer
wintry matrix
that definetely happens
not only in OW prob all games have that
(if) that is more prevalent in OW is because we're in a "growing pains" stage
PLS IMT
clever wagon
Growing pains, losing gains
wintry matrix
shadder2k on pharah, TL is doomed
balmy wolf
GGS
supple nymph
hallow fable
This auido.
hallow fable
RIP
supple nymph
oh there
hallow fable
WTH is this.
feral solar
hallow fable
some decent ones, imo
balmy wolf
Overwatch Contenders 
Season 0 Champions
NA: Immortals
EU: eUnited 
hallow fable
Frngfe vs TL was intresting,
balmy wolf
FNRGFE vs Liquid and FNRGFE vs RNG were the best matches
They were both really really good
@balmy wolf did good today at least I guesse
maybe Selly for AZK? lol
wut
wintry matrix
was funny to watch Kungarna getting rekt
balmy wolf
selly is not going to liquid lol
wintry matrix
Nv?
wintry matrix
selly going to nv maybe?
balmy wolf
but if they can upgrade AZK
i think Liquid has one it takes
to Envy LOL
AZK is a good supportive DPS but I think they need a better DPS to pair with Shadder
NRG is the rumoured team
They could get Retzi
Unless nrg is picking him up
I dont really think they need to upgrade AZK though 
well, don't fix what is not broken I guess
AZK is more Esca than IDDQD though
wat
missed the not
limber pine
clever wagon
Well well well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeQsuz7aHRA
clever wagon
Oh?
balmy wolf
according to the statement and what i saw from The O.W
they just don't want to play with each other anymore
clever wagon
solid spear
you hiding something? 
clever wagon
Just some guy "expressing his opinions" in which he thinks Reinforce and Misfits are "so bad for the past 6 months" for him to go to World Cup
And how he thought Cocco should've been there instead
All practically in front of Reinforce himself because he was tagged in the original tweet that this guy replied to
On another note
Corndogs for EG pls
Them old timers deserve an org for the whole bang of a come back they made in Contenders
woeful lodge
Is there any scrim confs in Discord?
wary falcon
ESL conf
clever wagon
r/ow
wary falcon
Didn't expect AFR to be so bad
toxic yacht
clever wagon
Eyy tha boi Kruise with a new vid
clever wagon
Fuckin weeb
toxic yacht
no u
toxic yacht
Dafran says "Ima do the dumbest shit in ranked"
Sinatraa be like "Hold my beer boi"
clever portal
It's just a mercy main 
toxic yacht
she's literally diamond
3 top 500 queuing together and he gets angry when he's matched with a diamond (wow, how surprising) and when the diamond is surprise, not very good at the game
weary fossil
you don't need to be particulary good to play mercy well
you need to be pretty bad to play her bad
requires no aim, no sleep darting, no nading
just positioning
so it's not too surprisingly people really hajte on bad mercys
clever wagon
And even her positioning still needs to be extremely babysit by her teammates
toxic yacht
that doesn't justify flaming someone like this...
clever wagon
'Cause if she doesn't have good evasion targets she's screwed
I've gotten off the topic of the clip tbh
weary fossil
sure that doesn't justify it, but it shouldn't be surprising that some people just get mad about stuff like that
i dunno what that mercy did in that game
clever portal
Some memes are universal
red anvil
oh geez
that sinatraa clip is horrible
and thats why i never cheer for selfless despite emongg being an amazing guy
solid spear
Omg hes so toxic
naive plover
round cargo
Never knew sinatraa was that toxic
solid spear
For a 16 year old that gets paid to play videogames, Sinatraa is embarrasingly toxic on stream. It honestly makes it hard to support Selfless knowing he is on their team.
clever wagon
For a 16 year old that gets paid to play videogames, Sinatraa is embarrasingly toxic on stream. It honestly makes it hard to support Selfless knowing he is on their team.
clever portal
For a 16 year old that gets paid to play videogames, Sinatraa is embarrasingly toxic on stream. It honestly makes it hard to support Selfless knowing he is on their team.
limber pine
wary falcon
you call him toxic? lol
wintry matrix
i do wonder if these things actually influence in selfless selling the roster to a bigger org or not, after all it gives tons of views (like dafran's ban)
it it lowers their chances feelsbad for kresnik and emongg (and i guess michael3d too)
clever portal
I think you should ignore the behavior of players in ranked
But it's bad for pr
People will be turned off the team from toxic behavior
wintry matrix
i dunno, if someone gets toxic when tilted is never a good sign
you could argue it it's even worse because being pro, ranked shouldn't matter that much
toxic yacht
For a 16 year old that gets paid to play videogames, Sinatraa is embarrasingly toxic on stream. It honestly makes it hard to support Selfless knowing he is on their team.
wintry matrix
then again, we still have xqc, so what do i know
gusty notch
sinatra more toxic than xqc confirmed
balmy wolf
xQc yesterday moaned about how this meta is too harsh and inconsistent which created upsets and shit
And the only thing i remember was and stomped them to mush
red anvil
xqc does a lot of things
but i've never seen him verbally abuse someone to this degree
balmy wolf
you mean when he said he was going to take a player's lunch money on LAN?
balmy wolf
not even a clip
just shit talk on chat
oh by the fucking way https://twitter.com/KruiseOW/status/881889143361556481
Twitter
clever portal
No faze 
step down huh ๐ค
red anvil
dident want to get the butts kicked by rogue? 
wintry matrix
did the UK scrim ended?
balmy wolf
people are still getting in
wintry matrix
and i wonder who would quit from c9, kaiser probably?
wintry matrix
even UK are getting korean imports
balmy wolf
SDB not playing for Russia today
red anvil
stylosa spectating lol
balmy wolf
They dont have Realzx
toxic yacht
I'd love to watch the enemy team perspective when playing vs shadowburn
tbh
I'd also love to hear the comms
"Shadowburn this, shadowburn that, shadowburn there"
balmy wolf
I wonder who they're getting to fill for him
wintry matrix
Boombox also missing
balmy wolf
nope
wintry matrix
that's a bummber
toxic yacht
"outbreak to spec"
balmy wolf
outbreak is committee
toxic yacht
realzx and smex missing
balmy wolf
So kyb and neptuno
wintry matrix
wait Boombox is snakebox?
balmy wolf
lol sdb in NA so scrimming with high ping
balmy wolf
unfixed jebaiting them
toxic yacht
ah, lul
fuckin unfixed
his sense of humour is very unfixed 
also
does kruise play with korean voices?
now he's queuing for qp
.-.
red anvil
wut
balmy wolf
EU scrims ๐
toxic yacht
now that I think of it
there is that meme
about eUnited always pausing during scrims
fucking eUnited shit flowing into their scrims
lul, "whatever support plays better ends up back on eUnited"
balmy wolf
we already knew REEE
toxic yacht
still neptuno and kyb though
balmy wolf
obviously
toxic yacht
new meta
balmy wolf
Rubi on lucio 
red anvil
indeed wall of korean
toxic yacht
if you have forsak3n on your team
there is no reason to play zen
if you had hidan and unkoe on one team you'd also put unkoe on ana/zen
balmy wolf
so this is what a team with 6 people talking looks like 
Forsaken isnt from the same country as rubi
toxic yacht
you know what I mean
balmy wolf
still not really a good comparison
toxic yacht
it's basically the same thing
forsak3n is the better zen
also, team russia throwing
balmy wolf
Kruise is playing like shit lmao
red anvil
this is so one sided lol
wary falcon
they are just having good time
rapid oxide
i want the crosshair patch ffs
clever portal
Wait till tomorrow
red anvil
mickie ofc ๐
rapid oxide
First most liked comment "I need healing" 
๐ก
clever portal
'nerf south Korea'
wintry matrix
this remembers me when an foreign team would join an AMM and everyone would be bummed because the matches had no stakes because of the ping
and Rogue in the WC will be the same thing, either "LUL EU needs 7 months of advantage to win KR" or "LUL EU even with 9 months of advantage can't win KR"
balmy wolf
How is that the same at all 
wintry matrix
ain't it similar? two situations when one team has advantage/handicap
balmy wolf
how does one team have a handicap in the wc?
because SK isnt a full team?
and rogue is?
That is really not the same
wintry matrix
how it isn't a advantage?
balmy wolf
I didnt say it wasnt an advantage, I said it isn't the same as a team with high ping vs a team with low ping
toxic yacht
south korea has flawlessly dominated the entire history of this young and vibrant sport
is blizzard deliberately being ignorant?
or is the guy who wrote these 2 videos just retarded?
wintry matrix
i was just comparing the situations, of course playing with high ping and playing with less time to prepare and synergize are different situations
well, aside from APAC and Apex s1, it's kinda true, unless i'm missing something
clever wagon
@toxic yacht video for the normie masses obv, not the esports side of the community
Can complain all we want but blizz still want the whole casual and esports pies and nothimng we can do about it
clever portal
The esports people will watch it anyway
They need to get the casuals interested
In their minds the last even was overwatch world cup
clever wagon
But I just realized that the Finns and Swedes also sent full star power in 2016
balmy wolf
Feels like Blizzard will only counts WC as OW esport's year zero so to speak
Which is of course retarded
wintry matrix
and APEX s1 had the weirdness of the middle patch change
toxic yacht
Finland
Had 5 dps players
And one off-tank
They got lucky with hymzi playing a sik hog
Literally Linkzr Reinhardt
And Tseini Lucio
wintry matrix
which is weird because you'd thought they put more NIP since hymzi got there
toxic yacht
well, it was voted by the community
wintry matrix
wasn't only two voted,and then these two choosed?
and even then, is hymzi more popular than nip?
toxic yacht
4 voted or some shit, 2 were captain's picks
balmy wolf
Brazil "we will send a gold streamer and get mock for it"
Canada "poke the joke"
Uk "Stylosa for Lucio"
๐ฏ
rapid oxide
vestal mortar
๐ญ
wintry matrix
rip the snappiest logo in the scene
hollow elm
Can we all agree the asians should be nerfed
solid spear
._.
gusty notch
buff NA/EU
supple nymph
hi
rapid oxide
Because they don't play bad games
pure kettle
is it me your looking for?~
clever portal
@supple nymph 
supple nymph
is ow getting fewer and fewer viewers on twitch every day?
clever portal
I think recent tournaments have been during major esports tournaments
But atleast EU is peaking
Only 25k~ but EU used to get 3k before
So massive improvement
Apex same as always
NA 100% gone down
I think month melee used to get 40k Peak?
Tbf maybe theres a lot of rogue fans
wintry matrix
the only time it got 40 was the new NRG wasn't it?
clever portal
Yeah, I think so
solid spear
I dont even think that was a full 40k but yeah it peaked that month
wintry matrix
aside from that was the normal 20-30k
balmy wolf
All contenders NA streams since the last melee have gotten lower peak viewers
clever portal
I feel there's less hype
wintry matrix
tho the EU finals peak of 40k is quite good considering there wasn't raelly anything to pull viewers in
clever portal
But that's too be expected with a new tournament
balmy wolf
lower peak viewers than the last melee
Which was implied in the message but i guess if english isnt your first language you dont pick up on that
supple nymph
sorry I meant just in general; right now it has 25k viewers which is really low. It's lower than WoW lower than Worms Revolution
balmy wolf
Well worms has lirik so
rugged quartz
I just saw the finals from last year's overwatch world cup
Holy shit, that was awesome
clever portal
This world cup should be good
SK won't have an easy road
Will be surprising if they win
rugged quartz
When will it start?
balmy wolf
Just because they aren't a full team doesnt mean they're garbage
clever portal
@rugged quartz July 14
balmy wolf
They're easily in the top 5 to win
red anvil
they got plenty of time to train up
rugged quartz
Thanks
clever portal
For sure, I don't think they can beat Rogue
rugged quartz
Do you guys think that orisa and more sombras will be used?
clever portal
LH coach did offer to coach them though
red anvil
sombra is already pro meta
supple nymph
i dunno about orisa unless they do a major patch
balmy wolf
Sombra will just keep seeing a rise in use until she's nerfed
solid spear
Cant even run shit like Zarya, and Rein let alone Orisa
clever portal
Sombra run a lot like the others said, especially on 2CP
rugged quartz
No roadhogs
balmy wolf
And unless orisa is buffed in some way, she will stay where she is
supple nymph
most matches these days are dive mirror and not much else; sometimes pharmercy and sometimes sombra
solid spear
Sombra is stupid good and probably wont get nerfed cuz the game is balanced around gold
red anvil
Several teams have tried torborisa as legit strat, it sometimes kinda work, sometimes it dont
clever portal
Roadhog was dead even before nerfs
wintry matrix
i think Orisa isn't seeing usage mostly because of dive, she is one of the worst characters agains it
red anvil
too unreliable imo.
balmy wolf
Torb Orisa will be a niche strat run on Horizon defence
balmy wolf
Thats the only place where she's good
wintry matrix
when dive passes, maybe we can see how good she really is
clever portal
@rugged quartz you don't group up in this meta
red anvil
orisas ult is too easy to destroy
clever portal
The orisa would need some sort of triple tank
rugged quartz
Can anyone explain what the dive meta is, plz?
red anvil
tracer, blink, dead ult
red anvil
The dive meta is all about mobile tanks and dpses
rugged quartz
So
red anvil
well, gengu at least you gota press space once in a while
holds true for the rest of the heroes
rugged quartz
I think dva, soldier winston and reaper
red anvil
reaper is not really part of the dive meta no :p
rugged quartz
Fuc
clever portal
@rugged quartz Dive means running Winston. You ignore all chokes/shield with your team and 'rush' in in a sense
balmy wolf
Dive is basically the opposite of Triple Tank
clever portal
An example team comp would be Winston/Dva/Tracer/Soldier/Zenyatta/Lucio
balmy wolf
Less tanks, more mobile dps, highly mobile comps
clever portal
Winston and Lucio are non-negotiable
rugged quartz
Thanks
clever portal
With 97% pro pick rate
balmy wolf
Instead of slowly pushing through a choke waiting for kills, you dive on the enemy's supports and then do the same for the rest of the team
quick clarification: you don't have to dive all the time in dive comp
red anvil
Dive becomes counter dive, that becomes counter counter dive
whatever best dive team wins
i want rein 2/2/2 back ๐ฆ
rugged quartz
Lucio is p fun to play with
balmy wolf
he is lying in the ditch that 
just buried him in
clever portal
I remeber back in early dive
red anvil
zarya dives
balmy wolf
Zarya is underrated, tbh. Look at yesterday
clever portal
There were people theorizing Rein/Zarya/Roadhog/Ana as dive counter comp 
balmy wolf
Fury's zarya is pretty fucking good dude
His gravs were questionable at the start though
clever portal
I would say they're safe gravs
red anvil
So many glorious zarya mains that goes to waste atm ๐ฆ
clever portal
As in can't be eaten
red anvil
like SPREE
clever portal
Harbleu
sweet dagger
balmy wolf
old news
short vault
ResidentSleeper
balmy wolf
clever wagon
I can't understand some people that feel the need to talk shit on meme team logos
What is this, @solid spear not putting up weeb shit on his profpic and name?
I'm crying
solid spear
._.
balmy wolf
lol okay
clever wagon
Meh, I've never touched any pokemon game since I was born
Pokemon isn't only played by weebs tho
To become a true weeb you should associate more with the non-mainstream stuff
solid spear
weeb
clever wagon
You know it beetch
short vault
solid spear
whose mans?!
short vault
ur mans
clever portal
supple nymph
while we are offtopic https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/6kusb7/thorins_twitter_recently/
rip thorin
wintry matrix
"I'm still the most talked about analyst and nobody is coming close to my title." that's slasher levels of heel
supple nymph
also https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6l2irc/you_guys_get_paid_disband/djquc61/
people being mean to xqc for no reason
???
pokelawls launching a reality show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZb1piWZOaY
balmy wolf
it is the bed he made
so now he has to lay on it
no sympathy for me
wow no mendo
0/10
limber pine
I kinda agree with Reign
i'm all for second chances, but he's got a long hole to climb out of
that's a good start though
balmy wolf
inb4 he did a bunch of stupid shits on twitch and the cycle continues
and knowing him, it will happen
wintry matrix
i do wonder what are the chances of Arc6 getting signed, if you consider xqc and that he was signed by denial (which was sketchy af)
tho he's popular, so i dunno
balmy wolf
probably
id say if they got to S1 they would definitely be picked up
especially with custa
balmy wolf
yeah well there's more than one org
solid spear
best unsigned NA team rn is Kungarna but they come with their own stuff
gusty notch
i'd rather sign a team with one toxic cunt than a previous hacker who was unapologetic lol
wintry matrix
to me is the opposite, if the second isn't cheating in this game he poses no problems
dusty surge
Meh. That attitude lends itself to cheating though. If the penalties are harsher (i.e. cheat in one game and get blacklisted from the pro scene of many/most games), there will be less incentive to cheat for fame/gain.
wintry matrix
i think people deserve second chances, actually just getting caught once is penalty enough because it drives sponsors away, it happened to kungarna already
balmy wolf
Well that was more just because of ausTSM
i mean they has the Code7 kerfuffle
so they has precedent of it before
Kungarna and FNRGFE probably will get pick up soon
just so that whichever org invested in them will get some decent returns when OWL is in full swing
not convinced about Kungarna's long term though
Babybay and Mykl are anything but tier 1 DPS
and you need them vs Rogue, IMT and nV of the world
dusty surge
Right, but if the penalty is just a slap on the wrist, then there's not really stopping anyone from doing it. If you get caught, just go pro in the next big FPS.
gusty notch
theyre inconsistent arent they
balmy wolf
well
they are like Yikes in a sense
good vs same or lower competition
but get stomp to mush vs higher
they are kind of also one trick as well
clever wagon
@gusty notch one toxic cunt?
For a 16 y-o that gets paid to play video games, Sinatraa is embarrassingly toxic on stream. Makes it hard to support Selfless even though Emongg is an amazing guy.
Or so the pasta goes
clever wagon
I do too
The pasta is but a meme
Yes he went off on the Diamond Mercy main but welp
At least still not xQc or mykl who are worse normally
wintry matrix
i'd say that going off on diamond players because he isn't playing well against gms is worse, but i don't follow any of them to know how much that happens
gusty notch
its very rare tbh
balmy wolf
It wasnt just that she was a diamond mercy main playing like shit
she was grouped with 3 top 500s
its not that she got unlucky matchmaking and did bad
fringe pike
I was thinking the same right now
well if top500 is 4300+
she needs to be 3800 atleast
wintry matrix
prob decayed
fringe pike
! good point
clever wagon
I mean though