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toxic yacht
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wait, this is the poor man's demoman now

rapid oxide
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copypaste TF2 demo

toxic yacht
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well, they basically took the demo and made him shit

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lol

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took away everything that actually made him good and op at times

balmy wolf
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I think making bombs on the ground not do full damage would be sweet

wary falcon
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GL are quite shitty if you compare to RL

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in most FPS

rapid oxide
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tldr: reward direct hit, not spam

wary falcon
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I want to see Roadhog gun replaced with Unreal Tournament 99's Flak Cannon

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Sweet dreams

balmy wolf
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I cant tell you how many times ive died to junkrat spam thats already on the ground

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but i walk onto it and it does a direct hit

wary falcon
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high ping?

balmy wolf
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nope

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thats just how it works

toxic yacht
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nope, just dumbass balls that roll on the ground

balmy wolf
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Make it work like demo blizz

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you fucking idiots

toxic yacht
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I have no idea why they even changed that

wary falcon
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I barely see junkrats in my games

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so sorry

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don't familiar with this hero

rapid oxide
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Junkrat,Hanzo and Torb are the trinity of retardation

toxic yacht
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it's just done in a way that makes him strong at potato ranks and damn near useless or at least very niche with players who are actually good

velvet scarab
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x6

toxic yacht
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never forget the junkrat-sym-torb gold strat that SK ran at the world cup

wary falcon
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Hanzo's scatter is a worst concept ever

toxic yacht
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also, x6 junkrat strat isn't gonna work again

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only really worked due to its wtf factor

velvet scarab
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i mean it depends on how hard the other team throws

rapid oxide
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yeah, the kind of strats that work once because you are lucky

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i think we need to give up on this kind of characters

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blizzard want to make easy and retarded heroes to attract more people as possible

toxic yacht
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blizzard probably is

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I feel like they realized that a few characters they made were mistakes

rapid oxide
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"few" ;p

wintry matrix
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nah, i'm fine with them

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maybe the need a few rework, but they're fine for me

wary falcon
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A lot of heroes needs rework

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plus we need to get rid of "offensive/defensive" concept

toxic yacht
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a few just need to be deleted

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like mercy

rapid oxide
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my dream is lucio without speedboost

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but not going to happen

toxic yacht
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phresh jeph has already said that the categories are really only there to guide newbies

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pretty much everyone with a brain disregards offense/defense

wintry matrix
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i still can't understand the mercy hate, until a few months ago everyone said she was ezpz to kill, now she's too hard?

wary falcon
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she gains a lot of SR

wintry matrix
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not saying she doesn't need tweaks

wary falcon
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more than other heroes

rapid oxide
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i would delete hanzo and junkrat

wary falcon
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this is reason of hate

toxic yacht
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most people actually realize that hanjo and widow are better on offense

rapid oxide
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mercy is like a medic in tf2

wintry matrix
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what a petty reason

clever portal
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1 second till health regen, and invulnerable during Res now

toxic yacht
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well, not only that

clever portal
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Before she would die every res

toxic yacht
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it's the fact that there is a mercy in every high level game

wary falcon
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People whine about my offensive torbjorn

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a lot

toxic yacht
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and mercy has the kind of playstyle that's kinda limting to play around

wary falcon
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while i need to place sneaky beaky turret and press molten core

toxic yacht
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then there is the fact that they are all one-tricks and cannot swap when it isn't working

wary falcon
toxic yacht
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rez is kinda cancer to play against

wintry matrix
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well. that can be said with anything really, lots of times in ranked there's one-tricks that you have to play around him

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and with dive being meta any supp is dead in 2 seconds anyway

toxic yacht
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well, a tracer onetrick has good tracking

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so that can carry over

clever portal
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Mercy main spotted monkaS

toxic yacht
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a genji onetrick will likely have a decent pharah

wary falcon
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you mean

wintry matrix
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it's a matter of principles, in an ideal word SR would work better, less one-trick etc.

toxic yacht
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like, a lot of onetricks have transferable skills

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if you get 2 genji oneticks, you can still play around that

wary falcon
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while Mercy is the hero

toxic yacht
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two mercy onetricks and you're fucked

wary falcon
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unique gamestyle

clever portal
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Mercy is the only character 100% unique

wary falcon
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how about torbjorn?

toxic yacht
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wukash is god

wintry matrix
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i'm not saying mercy is high-skill or doesn't need tweaks, but this feels like in low-ranked where people refuse to adapt to counter heroes

wary falcon
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who cares about low ranks except Blizzard

toxic yacht
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well, the mercy hate doesn't come from low ranks

rapid oxide
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low skill hero in an high tier rank play

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it's something to be fixed

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im ok with easy heroes

clever portal
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You need aim for torb

rapid oxide
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if they belong in easy ranks

toxic yacht
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yah

wary falcon
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low skill hero in an high tier rank play

i can't say that winston is hard hero to play

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or reinhardt

toxic yacht
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mechanically

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they're easy

wary falcon
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they have their tricks but that's it

toxic yacht
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but that's it

rapid oxide
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even lucio is easy mechanically

toxic yacht
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playing winston and rein requires a lot of gamesense

rapid oxide
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cmon dude

clever portal
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Winston/Rein have cool down/shield management and high game sense

rapid oxide
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dont come here telling me mercy is high skilled hero

wary falcon
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Mercy has low skill floor

rapid oxide
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because winston and sym are the same

wary falcon
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and medium skill ceiling

toxic yacht
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mercy is just braindead easy

clever portal
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Mercy needs average game sense, that's it

wary falcon
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sometimes i see Mercy with amazing movement

toxic yacht
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sometimes

wary falcon
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on 4k+

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it's not reason to call her hero with low skill ceiling

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same goes for lucio

toxic yacht
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those are the mercy mains who were at that SR in season 3 or whatever

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not the boosted ones

rapid oxide
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"""""""positioning"""""""

clever portal
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I agree with the better movement, but compare diamond Winston to top 500 winston

rapid oxide
clever portal
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And then diamond mercy to top 500 mercy

rapid oxide
clever portal
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The top 500 Winston will have remarkable movement in comparison

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Winston gameplay is basically like art at high level

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Miro gachiGASM

toxic yacht
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anyway, we went massively off topic

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I LOVE ESPORTS GUYS

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TVIQ IS A GOD

wintry matrix
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esports are entertaining

wary falcon
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hero discussion is related to esports

clever portal
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eSports 🤢

wary falcon
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i think

limber pine
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E S P O R T S

wary falcon
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hopefully will see more mercy on OW World Cup

limber pine
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wait i messed up

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E S P O R T S

wary falcon
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i love to see clutch heroes like mccree/mercy with big ultimates

rapid oxide
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Esport entertainment

limber pine
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The last map between FNRGNE and Arc6 was hilarious

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the definition of entertainment

rapid oxide
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"Guys let's rebrand so in the eyes of investors we look good" end up losing HYPERLUL

limber pine
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I don't think they looked particularly bad

clever portal
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No one notices because C9 eliminated on same day

limber pine
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FNRGFE just looked really good

balmy wolf
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Buds genji HYPERGACHI

clever portal
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I liked the chill games

rapid oxide
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their logo trigger me

clever portal
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Like Vivi Vs singularity

balmy wolf
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Coolmatt69 anything HYPERGACHI

rapid oxide
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that nick lmao

limber pine
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@rapid oxide you trigger me

rapid oxide
limber pine
wintry matrix
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tho we didn't really see FRNGEGEFE fighting the big guys, i wonder how they did against iMT

balmy wolf
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well they went 1-3

wintry matrix
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i mean how well they played, if it was close or stomp etc.

limber pine
rapid oxide
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🌽 fetDoge

limber pine
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i don't think either were streamed though

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so who knows for sure

wintry matrix
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they weren't, judging solely by the scores they did ok-ish

limber pine
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day two seemed to go better than day one

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so improvement

clever wagon
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Oh I see now Sojum

clever portal
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I'm guessing they go out match 1 to RNG

clever wagon
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Whut

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Marketing purposes...?

forest raven
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Following 4100

rapid oxide
balmy wolf
clever wagon
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Wow weeb following

rapid oxide
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this channel is full of weabs esport enthusiast

clever wagon
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Weeb following weeb

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OW esports is full of weebs

pure kettle
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<<<weeb

clever wagon
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Can't help it

rapid oxide
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well... it has its "anime"esque

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back to esport

clever wagon
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Hey Japan, this is the next best idea for your anime industry. Use these OW pros as your marketing platform so their Twitch subs will buy into it

rapid oxide
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i'll get mad if i wont get any info about owl soon

clever portal
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Almost everyone here has anime pic megumiBlush

clever wagon
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You still haven't gotten mad since late 2016

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That's an awful lot of patience

rapid oxide
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@clever wagon if they marketing hard, they could make an anime

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mf will be AinyaGasm

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targeting the name with movies, anime etc..

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could help esport scene too

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i think everyone with an internet connection know who's tracer

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ball is on blizz side

wintry matrix
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well, there will be an anime about an esports team on youtube red, with the grumpy gamers

rapid oxide
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about lol esport

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saw it

wintry matrix
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damn weebs

rapid oxide
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but i were talking about make the brand powerfull

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like Star Wars for example

wintry matrix
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Bliss doesn't like giving controle of its brands right?

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and tbh the brand is strong af, only the esports needs help (or maybe won't even need when owl starts)

rapid oxide
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a fucktons of help

toxic yacht
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diving

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heh

rapid oxide
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CONBOX Spirit renamed CONBOX

clever wagon
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No spirit thenkeng

rapid oxide
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can't understand even the spirit since they doesnt have a sister team anyway

wintry matrix
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wasn't there a COnbox t6?

rapid oxide
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iirc T6 -> Spirit ->

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CONBOX T6 renames to CONBOX Spirit.

wintry matrix
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oh

rapid oxide
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what liquipedia said

clever portal
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Twitch chat will still call them cumbox

rapid oxide
wintry matrix
rapid oxide
clever portal
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I'm guessing the other team never made Challengers

rapid oxide
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Seagull, Tim and MoonMoon streaming monkaS

clever portal
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Tim 3rd most viewed channel 🤢

supple nymph
clever portal
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This is not exactly right

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It's not like some amateur tournament where you split the cash

toxic yacht
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money goes to the org iirc, pretty sure that players get salaries

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don't quote me on this though, I have no fucking idea how this works

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probably the org gives the players some of the prize money?

supple nymph
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toxic yacht
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daily reminder that danteh used to be a minecraft pvp guy

wintry matrix
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shame he quit that for denial

clever wagon
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Denial?

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No more

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We all YOINKS now bois

balmy wolf
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Arc6*

solid spear
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Bleh

clever wagon
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YOINKS > YIKES > Arc6

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I know about the name change, Polul, believe it or not

toxic yacht
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T H I G H M O U

balmy wolf
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who the heck are yoinks

wintry matrix
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these silly rascals

rapid oxide
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Rascal prxGasm

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idk for who to cheer 2moro

solid spear
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LWB for sure

rapid oxide
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if LH go past + grills + views + SKT T1

balmy wolf
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LWB

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All the way

rapid oxide
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then... if no one cheer for LH, ill go LH

toxic yacht
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uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas

rapid oxide
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thought was ow calling

wintry matrix
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i'm more exicted for a KDP x AFB match

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if they're at their peak

rapid oxide
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ananananananan monkeymonkeymonkeymonkey zenzenzen lucioluciolucio AAAAAH AinyaGasm

wintry matrix
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those damn koreans and their superior communication

balmy wolf
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amazing

supple nymph
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LOL

balmy wolf
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so @balmy wolf

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according to Liquid Aurace

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Liquid will stay at nVidia until playoff is over

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so that's one good thing i guess

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To be expected

toxic yacht
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lol

clever portal
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Even mercy main wants it monkaS

balmy wolf
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the ultimate Mercy OTP mind you

clever portal
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It makes sense though

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Seems like c9 plays to the book too much

clever wagon
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What?

clever portal
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Like when NV got exposed for ruining the same strats every game

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I'm talking about the Numbani thing

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Seems like they didn't read the rules properly

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What do you guys think of the Apex match prediction?

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I was actually surprised

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It gives NV KDP 50/50

toxic yacht
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honestly

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nV can do it

clever portal
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Lunatic Hai is about right though

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56% for them

toxic yacht
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I won't get my hopes up though

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envy 3-2 is a possibility

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it's gonna be a 3-2 either way with KDP having a higher win chance

clever portal
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Bo7

toxic yacht
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pretty sure that the semis aren't bo7

clever portal
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They are this season

toxic yacht
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wtf

clever portal
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IMO this is the biggest advantage NV have

toxic yacht
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"oh, we have no time for bo5 koth, let's randomly make it a bo7 hahahaha"

clever portal
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KDP have shown they have a weak mentality

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If you take it to a lot of games

balmy wolf
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gotta watch to see whether or not LW BLue or LH will go out first

clever portal
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I could see KDP choking

toxic yacht
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likely no janus, but whoru is still recovering from his circumsicion

balmy wolf
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KDP can yeah. I think that's why APEX casters didn't pick them

toxic yacht
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this is very 🤔

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it's like this entire season just wants AF Blue to win

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and they are very capable of doing it

balmy wolf
toxic yacht
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lol

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rip the LH dream

balmy wolf
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still haven't recovered from that trip to the red light district it seems

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WhoRU more like WhereRU amirite

toxic yacht
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no.

clever portal
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Gido will carry them to victory

toxic yacht
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lol

balmy wolf
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don't want to bet anything though

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would love for KDP or nV to win APEX though

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just so that nV and Rogue just solidify themselves as 3 times major winners

thorn holly
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whoru should fucked up so hard

balmy wolf
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@crisp lynx any news on why WhoRU fucked up this badly?

thorn holly
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maybe he fucked with one of their fans or something like that

toxic yacht
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we'd probably have heard of it then

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because fans talk

thorn holly
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koreans are so weird in this kind of things

toxic yacht
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maybe he stole jehong's ice cream

clever portal
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It seems like something internal

toxic yacht
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like taimou stole talespin's

clever portal
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Maybe he told coach to fuck off like mickie

balmy wolf
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my headcanon will forever be WhoRU pulling an FNX

thorn holly
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rip talespin ice scream

toxic yacht
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your headcanon is always an FNX

wintry matrix
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FNX?

toxic yacht
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understandable because that headcanon is fucking hilarious

balmy wolf
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@wintry matrix a Brazillain player who get kicked out of his CSGO team for fucking his teammate's gf

thorn holly
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fnx got kicked by SK gaming for fucked his teammates gf¿?

toxic yacht
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IMT iirc

thorn holly
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LMAO

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gf of who¿?

balmy wolf
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nah SK Gaming

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gf of Fer

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IMT was his exile destination lolz

toxic yacht
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oops

thorn holly
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what a dude

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i didnt know that

clever portal
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Lmao

balmy wolf
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SK Gaming just won like 3 LAN finals after FNX's departure while FNX is on the bench of Immortals after bringing them to final of IEM Katowice

clever portal
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We're becoming more like real sports now

balmy wolf
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so it is like "well I hope that pussy was worth it FNX"

clever portal
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Whoru took Gido's GF? monkaS

wintry matrix
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i mean, Miro, Tobi, RJH e Esca are somewhat good looking, but Whoru?

toxic yacht
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also, he's like, 15

thorn holly
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can you imagine Whoru, a 15 years old guy, with RJH gf for example¿?

clever portal
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Gido is 15 as well

wintry matrix
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actually only now i realized that LH is stacked in qt boys

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i dunno, could be a fetish for young boys, maybe some femdom or some shit

toxic yacht
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tajun was also qt, lul

clever portal
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What about dean

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Always forgotten

toxic yacht
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the only one who looked blobthinkingglare was dean

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dean was the one who asked for nudes

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btw

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lol

wintry matrix
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wasn't that a lie? the fan actually lied or something

toxic yacht
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that was with tajun, iirc

wintry matrix
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also zunba doesn't look qt, at least not as much as the others

toxic yacht
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there was this whole story that it was an ex from tajun who lied or some shit

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I forgot

wintry matrix
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i thought it was for both

toxic yacht
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too much drama for me

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iirc only for tajun

wintry matrix
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anyway, esports are entertaining

crisp lynx
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whoru has not been in the scrim for three weeks.

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i hope to see him. but In reality, i don't think he play today. And he live in gwangju rn. It is about 290km away from Seoul.

wintry matrix
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he lives separate from LH?

crisp lynx
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yes

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He was at the team house until middle of May at least.

clever portal
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Western fans are making jokes he's signed with NRg

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Do you see him leaving korea

toxic yacht
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lmao

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NRG Whoru

crisp lynx
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yes i heard it reddit. also i read they want BK bunny too.

toxic yacht
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NRG: Where pros go to die

clever portal
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You could change Rogues name to NRG for one day

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And they would lose

crisp lynx
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Age and Money is always problems. it's sure he can make a lot of money if he go to North America.

clever portal
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Which team do you support?

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LH?

crisp lynx
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AFB, IMT, eUnited

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also i love misfits too.

clever portal
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AFB supporter pogchimp

crisp lynx
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Arhan LUL

clever portal
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This season looking very good for them

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Arhan has stepped it up

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Maybe NA teams should try no meat

crisp lynx
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yes. they got good new blood like idk lucid.

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Actually I don't know about NRG well. Why does they keep team when they are poor record & out of contenders. i don't undertand.

solid spear
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Well they only have 3 players now

wintry matrix
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they are rebuilding rn aren't they? with dummy out

solid spear
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Seems theyre finally trying

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To fix things

clever portal
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Basically some orgs have a lot of financial backing

wintry matrix
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but most of the time they had good ow players or pros from tf2

clever portal
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OWL will be buy in based

solid spear
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NRG Haksal

toxic yacht
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lol

clever portal
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They can just buy a place even if they're bad

toxic yacht
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NRG Nus

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NRG Ryujehong

wintry matrix
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at this point even if NRG gets a full KR team, i still expect them to do bad. The problem seems to be coaching/management

crisp lynx
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oops

clever portal
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Just buy Runaway

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Apparently Seagull didn't even know when they bought new players

crisp lynx
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i heard NRG have big financial fund. and i knew them because of their LOL team sign with ganked by mom.

balmy wolf
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at least Jeff paid attention to the pro scene at least

crisp lynx
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tracer ult is broken i think.

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also sombra too.

toxic yacht
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sombra definitely imo

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the thing with tracer is

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you have 5 squishies on every team

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who are clumped up in a way that allows pulsebomb to always blow them up

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and not many heroes who mitigate that damage

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so I'm very reluctant to call tracer op

balmy wolf
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Zarya can mitigate that damage

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but she is out of the meta

toxic yacht
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yee

balmy wolf
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so the closest one is D.va?

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and even then that's a crapshoot

toxic yacht
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zarya is was a kinda reliable counter to bomb, that + the fact that you couldn't single out targets as easily and the fact that she can oneshot almost every current meta hero with it makes it seem more ridiculous than it is imo

wintry matrix
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why zarya isn't run in dive? aside from mobility

toxic yacht
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zarya mostly thrives in longer and more brawly situations

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where she can get multiple bubble chances and get to high energy, reliably block things, etc

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in dive you get 4 people exploding a single person at once

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and teamfights end very fast

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basically, you do one thing, bait the bubble, then 1 of the 4 heroes with stupid high mobility just jumps out, and once bubble is gone you basically explode the zarya

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it's kinda hard to farm energy in these scenarios, especially because every hero you'd kill with the resulting damage will just dive out

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also, good luck hitting a good grav

solid spear
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Thing is Zarya got nerfed back, just nerfed Hog even more gave Winston a ton of buffs its not surprising

toxic yacht
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zarya nerfs were a long ass time ago though

solid spear
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Yeah thats why I said back

clever portal
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They still ran Zarya after nerfs

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The problem is DVas like Zunba eat half the gravs

wintry matrix
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i don't think that's it

toxic yacht
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that's not really the issue

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back in the tank meta and after people were still running dva and zarya together

clever portal
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Matrix is too valuable, you can't peel as much with Zarya

solid spear
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I do think a stronger Zarya helps with D.va and Tracer without directly nerfing thenm is what Im saying

toxic yacht
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I don't think that an unnerfed zarya would help a lot

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it still doesn't fix the core issue, which is that she will get exploded

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they'll just pay a bit more attention before killing her

solid spear
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Hog being bad also makes it that the little incentive you had for running tank heavy comps is completely gone

red anvil
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buffing zarya would just move the problem away

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to whenever she gets back in the meta

solid spear
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Idk Zarya has never been like a huge problem even when she was meta

toxic yacht
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she was literally

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in every team

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for months

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it's just that no one cared

red anvil
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she was a must pick yeah

toxic yacht
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her pickrate was kind of ridiculous

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but she never seemed oppressive, so it didn't bother anyone

solid spear
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She was only a must pick in tank meta look at her usage before it wasnt as high as like winston is now

toxic yacht
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zarya was always a good choice

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until this meta

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if you go the whole way back to discord

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zarya was on every team

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beyblade

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zarya on every team

solid spear
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You never had 95% pickrate Zarya like you do Winston now but no ones talking about winston nerfs

toxic yacht
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even pre-tank meta

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she was on every comp

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people are definitely talking about winston nerfs

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but most people blame tracer, lul

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and yes, tons of people wanted zarya nerfed

clever portal
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Bs

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No tank was above 90%

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Only in this meta

toxic yacht
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like, zarya was fucking omnipresent

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like how cree was in every discord meta comp

clever portal
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DVa was an option

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Now Zarya is not even an option

solid spear
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Even at her peak she wasnt sitting at current Tracer/Winston level pickrate

clever portal
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This meta is insanity

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If you believe its more diverse look at the pick rates yourself

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Zarya is much more 'fair' to play against than Dva

solid spear
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I mean D.Va isnt even the problem as oppressive as she is

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If she was gone everyone would just go back to triple dps nothing would really change

toxic yacht
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"never at tracer's pickrate"

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🤔

#

there you have it, not tank meta, but zarya at 80+%

#

like tracer

red anvil
toxic yacht
#

even right after the tank meta she was at ~60%

#

zarya not being an instalock is a very recent thing

red anvil
supple nymph
#

look at the stream coverage

red anvil
#

Zaryas pickrate was radicilously high

supple nymph
#

every single match being streamed

red anvil
#

higher then winston atm

toxic yacht
#

like, zarya was never a bad choice

#

always super strong

#

until recently

solid spear
#

Winston is at 95% pickrate when was Zarya ever that high

toxic yacht
#

pretty much permanently at a 60-80% pickrate

solid spear
#

Even tracer is at 90%

toxic yacht
#

winston is a main tank

#

lol

red anvil
toxic yacht
#

of course his pickrate is higher

#

the fact that tracer has a higher pickrate doesn't change the fact that zarya was an instalock

#

on every team

clever portal
toxic yacht
#

wow, tracer is at 90

#

*88

clever portal
#

Look at C tier of old meta

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And C tier now

#

Everyone is tier 5

toxic yacht
#

doesn't change the fact that zarya was at an 80 and how ridiculously high 80 is

#

that's like saying "Oh, this guy who killed 8 people isn't that bad, that other guy killed 11"

clever portal
#

It was sort of cheese

#

The game was who has the grav

toxic yacht
#

it's both completely ridiculously high pickrates

#

except that zarya was consistently higher than tracer

#

this is the first time it's the other way round

solid spear
#

You literally said it yourself that unnerfed Zarya wouldn't make a difference rn

toxic yacht
#

tracer's pickrate only recently shot up

#

while zarya was always stupid high

red anvil
#

Nerfed zarya really dident make a diff

#

she was nerfed before world cup if i recall correctly?

toxic yacht
#

zarya nerfs didn't do much

#

lol

clever portal
#

Yh just the play style doesn't really work anymore

toxic yacht
#

good zaryas still farm energy very fast

red anvil
#

and wolrd cup she had 90% pickrate

toxic yacht
#

and maintain it between teamfights

#

the nerf only hurt bad zaryas

#

so yes, unnerfed zarya wouldn't do shit

solid spear
#

I view her like I view tracer which is why I dont really think tracer nerfs are neccesary

toxic yacht
#

her pickrate stayed high post nerf

solid spear
#

Winston being as strong as he is and stuff like hog, McCree, etc being hard to run is at its core the problem

clever portal
#

New McRee and Reaper changes are atleast something

solid spear
#

Problem is still McCrees kit makes him atrocious against dive

clever portal
#

Reading the post now

#

Completely agree

#

It's harsh but true

supple nymph
#

no it's Harsha....

vestal mortar
#

ayyyy

clever portal
toxic yacht
#

speaking of zarya

#

why don't these people ever learn?

clever portal
#

Lol

red anvil
#

glorious to see lui in action

clever portal
#

FeelsRageMan

red anvil
#

less glorious to not see spree on zarya 😦

tough agate
#

when the meta changes i'm sure it'll happen again

clever portal
#

Whenever I open discord it takes me to general chat

tough agate
#

she's just not in the best spot

clever portal
#

She'll come back when Rein comes back 😦

red anvil
#

indeed, i'm just hoping it'll happen sooner rather then later

blazing parrot
#

@toxic yacht I like the "NO We need to cap"

tough agate
#

@blazing parrot that happens more than you think at the pro level LOL

#

everyone just has that instinct of HOLD YOUR FIRE as soon as she's desuited

blazing parrot
#

@tough agate monkaGiga

tough agate
#

other than dafran he just killed her

toxic yacht
#

lol

clever portal
#

Dafran monkaMEGA

blazing parrot
#

Pro levels aspire to be c9

#

topkek

#

@tough agate why does that happen tho?

toxic yacht
#

staggering

#

the dva

#

they want to stagger her

#

but they need to cap

blazing parrot
#

i meant not capping

toxic yacht
#

so kill her instead of staggering

blazing parrot
#

kapp a

tough agate
#

well, it's just the first instinct at that point to not kill

#

so someone calls to not kill

#

then someone else looks like 'you dummy'

#

but it happens a lot

#

thankfully usually not for a damning amount of time

blazing parrot
clever portal
#

The worst Dva stagger I've seen was Lunar Colony game

#

The DVa didn't even know where to go LUL

#

She ran all the way to Zero grav

#

And then jumped off

tough agate
#

what in the world LOL

#

did she at least try to get mech

clever portal
#

It was one day after patch in apex challengers

#

I think the DVa wasnt even thinking

#

Just ran and jumped off

#

Second point is worse thoguh

#

No jump off

#

Just need to get ult like anubis

toxic yacht
#

professional dva players probably have ptsd from all of the staggering

#

on one hand, I feel bad for them

#

on the other hand, they're playing dva

#

so they kind of deserve it

clever portal
#

Have you seen the forums

#

'Revive DVa in mech BabyRage'

toxic yacht
#

lul

#

I never go to the forums, don't need another way to get cancer

rapid oxide
#

i prefere forum over reddit

#

atleast it's not highlight spam

red anvil
#

no but its pls nerf x spam

#

or d.va is too weak pls buff

rapid oxide
#

"can we get dva schoolgirl skin?" so i can fap to it

#

i think there's a dude asking it daily

red anvil
#

Facepalm

rapid oxide
#

yeah...

clever portal
#

Isn't Chinese skin good enough

red anvil
#

i guess not, even though the skirt is shorter then actual schoolgirl outfits

rapid oxide
#

They want shorter as possible and striped pantsu

#

Let they belive one day will happen LUL

#

Someone know if Janus will play?

red anvil
#

last i heard was that he was out of hospital

wintry matrix
#

someone posted an image here that he was listed for the lineup

rapid oxide
#

Hes out already

#

That's cool megumiBlush

red anvil
#

looks like the picture was from over.gg i believe? not sure if that is a confirmed lineup

#

whoru is listed as subsitute still

#

i cant exactly say i'm confident in gidos dps after the two last matches >_>

#

i'm curious to see if they will make changes to their dpses if they dont win this match though

clever portal
#

over.gg has little information from the korean scene

#

You can trust western lineups from there though

#

That guy who posts here probably knows more than overgg

supple nymph
#

does the korean scene even have a repository like liquipedia

#

it's always hard to find info about korean stuff anywhere

clever portal
#

All I know is they use Inven

#

Which is like reddit

crisp lynx
#

KR reddit = inven, dcinside. KR liquidpedia = namu.wiki (but it is wiki for general purpose)

clever portal
#

Thanks for the info sopti o3o

crisp lynx
supple nymph
crisp lynx
#

title say "someone broadcast LH scrim, I do not know if it's allowed, please contact LH"

#

and Nishimiya is Gido

clever portal
#

Thought it was new player for second monkaS

clever wagon
#

As usual, won't be any response to Harsha's post

wintry matrix
#

i'm with Bliss on this, theres little to nothing to be hyped about in the group stages, they're still trying out the format

#

the matches were a snorefest

balmy wolf
#

that's problem with group stages though

#

even in APEX

#

lots of matches were 3-0

#

it is not as stacked as one would like to think

wintry matrix
#

and also Contenders s0 has to be squished in order to fit the timeline soon

#

although in APEX group stages at least you can get pretty hype matches more frequently

clever wagon
#

Jake doing AMA

wintry matrix
#

is streaming visual novels ironically a new trend or just a thing jake and dafran did/do?

clever wagon
#

It's a joke set up by Train

#

He's just going along with it

wintry matrix
#

just curious if it is a streaming trend

violet turret
#

E spurts

#

Selfless is trash now

balmy wolf
#

just noticed

#

4 game sets

#

BO5 single elims

#

it seems like this is going to be the default format for OW now

supple nymph
#

ic

#

wasnt too crazy about the 4 game sets

violet turret
#

K

supple nymph
#

where nobody knows if the match being played even matters

violet turret
#

@supple nymph do u have ow

balmy wolf
#

@supple nymph the shanghai qualifier is just going to be Rogue 4-0 everyone

#

which make for good fucking viewing experience

violet turret
#

Ofc

#

This gonna be boring watching rogue

supple nymph
#

rogue matches are weird either they stomp in NA/EU or get completely trashed in KR

#

always kinda boring

balmy wolf
#

mind you, they got match up with 2 of the top KR teams

#

it is not like they got beat by BK stars

supple nymph
#

other than just seeing really good skill but that gets old too

balmy wolf
#

Sydney/Katowice/Barbank qualifiers are better tbh

#

since there are going to be key match up over there

supple nymph
#

if usa gets trashed it'll be pretty funny

violet turret
#

Katowice is the best one

#

Cuz it includes the 1st and 2nd place teams in 2016 WC

blazing parrot
wintry matrix
#

you know this is effective when even i want Mercy removed just to stop the memes/circlejerk

clever wagon
#

When #1 ladder Mercy main and the majority of pros already decided Mercy is fucked I don't see how that's still not an immediate issue

#

But instead let's give Roadhog a totally unnecessary rework

#

Because the forums were crying about getting killed by him

clever wagon
#

Phaz, Zappis, Jamerson & Kayuun visible in chat within the first 10 minutes

#

"Mykl = Dafran 2.0" His Tracer isn't even anywhere near Dafran's mechanically...

#

Here's hoping LGE will run Kungarna over

balmy wolf
#

we'll see

#

LG Evil is kind of overrated now

#

they 2-0'd Kungarna but that's when they were just reformed

#

and Group B was a joke

wary falcon
#

Any information about WhoRU and janus?

#

Lunatic Hai 1.649
LuxuryWatch BLUE 2.270

#

I expected LWB to be favorites

balmy wolf
#

@crisp lynx

pseudo sail
crisp lynx
#

janus attends scrims after discharging from hospital.

#

whoru hasn't.

wary falcon
#

He is playing right after pneumotorax? damn

toxic yacht
#

Well, rip LH

#

Was nice knowing you :(

wary falcon
#

Yeah, i don't see LH winning any good teams without WhoRU

balmy wolf
#

@crisp lynx any rumors about why WhoRU got benched?

wary falcon
#

without him their DPS are meh and Ryujehon's Zen is average at best

crisp lynx
#

There was rumor about the stuggles inside team, but it was not true, source was fake from haters.

#

Officially, it was a Detention based on team punishment.

#

coach confirmed.

wary falcon
#

Thanks for information about WhoRU-Janus situation

#

Just dropped $500 on LWB

crisp lynx
#

😏

balmy wolf
#

Well this will not backfired at all

wary falcon
#

Or sopti just baited me to get better %

crisp lynx
#

that's nice idea.

#

I'll try it next time.

balmy wolf
#

Lol

wary falcon
#

It's like when i bought results about offline games between russian teams

#

and i bought wrong results

toxic yacht
#

lmao

red anvil
#

i have slight faith on LH regardless of whoru, they got an amazing coach

#

They might pull out whoru if it goes real bad

final river
#

Is the OGN match an extra hour later this time? says it starts in four hours.

crisp lynx
#

4 pm KST now, match start 7pm KST

#

over.gg say it start 8:30 pm KST. i think it's wrong.

clever portal
#

1:30 till game monkaMEGA

#

@crisp lynx every western website think the game is at 8:30 kst

wary falcon
#

Every first match of the day started at 19:00 KST

clever portal
#

Yeah I hope so

#

I think one game last season was delayed like this though

#

So it's possible

#

If they delay it FeelsKCHHHH

crisp lynx
#

No news in korean community & ogn homepage about delay.

toxic yacht
#

inb4 gido also got punished and LH only have 5 players

clever portal
#

inb4 Whoru makes bench boys Apex squad with TwoEasy

#

I want some actual drama

#

Not someone texted some girls

#

I want Whoru to join some other team and beat LH is the finals

#

Slashing through Miro and Ryujehong

feral solar
#

just got home can anyone simplify what happened?

clever wagon
#

Top 3 Anime fights

#

I shit you not that's the tl;dr

feral solar
#

haha

clever portal
#

Do you mean with the game?

#

Or with whoru

wary falcon
#

texted some girls

#

sexted

feral solar
#

@clever portal both really

clever portal
#

For the game, it has been delayed to a later time slot

#

Whoru last played against Rogue in May

wary falcon
#

Game in 40 minutes?

clever portal
#

LH released a statement saying that Whoru has been suspended

#

And undergoing disciplinary action

#

For an unknown reason

#

@wary falcon apparently 2 hours

#

I'm going to check in 40 minutes anyway though

feral solar
#

that was 2 hrs ago

crisp lynx
#

check ognglobal twitter too.

feral solar
#

that means it should be in 30 min

wary falcon
#

i will drink vodka shot for every 10 minute delay

feral solar
#

weird

clever portal
#

So much false information

#

But gachiGASM

crisp lynx
#

this one is not about apex.

#

it is about LCK 2nd match. it start 8 PM KST.

feral solar
#

ohhhh

#

my bad

#

11 min boys

#

stream just started

clever portal
#

Stream up pogchimp

crisp lynx
wary falcon
#

janus

crisp lynx
#

LW players are setting pc. maybe sbb, pine, flower as starting player with janus, and no luna

rapid oxide
#

poor luna

edgy remnant
#

feels sad man

clever portal
#

Lunatic bye

red anvil
#

Lunatic believeeee

wary falcon
#

Ouch i just realised KDP stomped both teams

red anvil
#

Well Janus wasent there with KDP

clever portal
#

Inb4 reverse sweep

devout raft
#

Miro time hamhype hamhype

wary falcon
#

esca soldier

vestal mortar
wary falcon
#

😦

crisp lynx
#

how many esca lul would be typed today

wary falcon
#

i will try my best

red anvil
#

SBB lol 😉

devout raft
#

Dva carry hamarrest

clever portal
#

Looks like esca is back to carry mode

vestal mortar
#

Jehong 😍

devout raft
#

Huge zenning

feral solar
#

The chat is just ESCA LUL or ESCA Pog champ

edgy remnant
#

LW Blue blobsweats

feral solar
#

that wasnt good

devout raft
#

Ez control

feral solar
#

they needed to dive jehong

devout raft
#

He was just dpsing all day

edgy remnant
#

they talked the talk, but can't seem to walk the walk blobhyperthinkfast

red anvil
#

Easier said then done, they are protecting RJH so much

devout raft
#

Tac pause

clever portal
#

Tac pause means no sub right?

#

That was too easy

#

Esca and Gido showing up

red anvil
#

Esca had his usual weak and strong movements equally as usual

#

there is nothing inbetween i swear

devout raft
#

I get it

#

Fightingggg

clever portal
#

Eichenwalde?

#

To be honest LH are good on all Hybrids

#

Maybe not Numbani

feral solar
#

whoever tried orisa torb last week didnt work

balmy wolf
#

This is a comp and a half

feral solar
#

lets hope this works better

balmy wolf
#

triple tank, sombra, torb

red anvil
#

LH

#

Why

feral solar
#

ooooh

#

clutch hack

wary falcon
#

LWB looks shaky

red anvil
#

that faulty stagger

devout raft
#

Miro hamhype

balmy wolf
#

My god

#

so many ults

#

holy fuck

red anvil
#

oyeahhh

void dirge
wary falcon
#

LH 3:0?

feral solar
#

off the stage

final river
#

was the koth map close?

feral solar
#

nope

final river
#

damn so looking good LH

red anvil
#

was pretty one sided

final river
#

good for

red anvil
#

not completely 100:0 but close

clever portal
#

LwB need god defense

red anvil
#

rip god defense

void dirge
#

jesus i didnt even see when they capped

red anvil
#

YES

feral solar
#

flower got nothing with that last blade 😦

devout raft
#

Gg

crisp lynx
#

RIP Jackie's betting?

devout raft
#

Happy esca

final river
#

never bet against esca

wary falcon
#

when i bet on LH

#

they put esca on tracer

#

and free lose

#

smh

devout raft
#

Lol

#

Gave up betting on cs go

feral solar
#

janus is not doing well tbh

devout raft
#

Skins tho

#

Ow tempting

wary falcon
#

I still have a few low tier skins from cs:go betting

#

awp asiimovs and such

feral solar
#

you should give a few to me

wary falcon
#

i still playing with them

#

just don't bet via skins

#

after csgl death

feral solar
#

ah nvm

wary falcon
#

don't trust vpgame

feral solar
#

i never did that stuff

wary falcon
#

Not sure what am i supposed to do

#

Hope for reverse sweep or bet on Lh 3rd map

#

i think after my bet LWB will win 3rd map and then lose 4

#

LuxuryWatch BLUE (map 3)
1.884

#

Lunatic Hai (map 3)
1.934

clever portal
#

I give the next map to LWB

#

But no way they can win after that

vestal mortar
#

Go lunatic hai \o/

toxic yacht
#

Lol, how is LH winning this?

#

LW Throw

solid spear
#

BlessRNG LWB BlessRNG

feral solar
#

fangirls are hyped

void dirge
#

LW booo

vestal mortar
#

My cheering is making them win Sojum

feral solar
#

where were you during the first playoff game tara

red anvil
#

Tripple support? 😉

vestal mortar
#

Probably at work like I am right now jelly

feral solar
#

hopefully you can cheer when they play AFB if they win here cause they are gonna need it

final river
#

yea double support with the sombra

feral solar
#

M I R O

red anvil
#

LH is just rolling

#

Wow

#

this might be there best match yet in this apex season

feral solar
#

no owc for miro 😭

#

"nice aim miro"

red anvil
#

pls let be full hold

steel hare
#

here's hoping for lunatic hai 3-0

red anvil
#

deamn not full

#

escas sombra is being so strong

#

lol mei ❤

final river
#

whats with the blue face in chat

#

that was just silly

feral solar
#

gosh

#

2 CP

clever portal
#

LH god stall

red anvil
#

god stall dont help if its overtime and they cant retake

steel hare
#

could have been worse

feral solar
#

this is gonna be a 3:0 most likely now

red anvil
#

attackmei

#

geez

#

YES

feral solar
#

gg

red anvil
#

i believed in LH and got rewarded 😄

vestal mortar
#

\o/

steel hare
#

feelsgoodman

#

3-0 stomp

feral solar
toxic yacht
#

lul

#

rip jackie

#

I don't blame him though, I'd also have put my money on LW Blue

feral solar
#

lets see if they can finally take a map off AFB now

toxic yacht
#

🙏 for my LH bois

wary falcon
#

won $60 on 3rd map

toxic yacht
#

did janus play?

red anvil
#

LH never gets it easy

#

yeah he did

toxic yacht
#

lul

balmy wolf
#

Janus just out of hospital, Flow3r at 50% = loss for LWB

toxic yacht
#

Nice team you're sending to the world cup blobthumbsup

#

still salty at the lack of Kongdoo Panthera

#

I love 5/6 WC players, but c'mon, KDP is like, the best team in KR rn

#

either them or AFB

feral solar
#

EZ 4 KDP

toxic yacht
#

at least they sent an AFB guy

red anvil
#

why cant they have two main tanks, i wane see miro in WC :C

edgy remnant
#

Semifinals blobthumbsup

#

Wc doesn't allow for subs unfortunately

feral solar
#

do you guys think nV has any chance of beating kdp

edgy remnant
#

Idk kdp is looking real good this season

vestal mortar
#

So sad I won't meet Miro 😢

red anvil
#

At least they had no doubt about picking RJH

edgy remnant
#

But ur a seagull fan

toxic yacht
#

if nV wins vs KDP they take the whole thing imo

wary falcon
#

KDP lose to Mighty AOD

#

so it's possible

toxic yacht
#

it is

vestal mortar
#

I am a jehong fan too

feral solar
#

i guess i doubt nv will win but i hope its a close match

#

im hyped for friday though

red anvil
#

i'm fine with either winning there

vestal mortar
#

Can't wait for Friday, payday and Apex 👌

red anvil
#

but i think KDP will be a lot more interesting to watch in next round

#

nV in finals will be stomped regardless of who gets there to face them

clever portal
#

Hoping they go finals

#

For the AFB vs NV rematch

#

Also the finals are hilarious

#

I want to see Taimou singing

toxic yacht
#

I wanna see him explore more thighs

edgy remnant
#

thighmou

clever portal
#

LH ending game early so people can watch skt

balmy wolf
#

Arent you going to poland though @vestal mortar

clever portal
#

@balmy wolf Poland is e and F

#

Korea Canada/Russia and Netherlands

balmy wolf
#

Yeah i forgot

rapid oxide
#

Love to see people shitting on everyone that's losing

#

Doesn't matter how good they were, if you lose one you are suddenly shit

#

"this is the dps you want to send for wc? Kr will lose"

#

The day before thry were cocksucking fl0wer as the most versatile dps and ssb best tracer in kr

balmy wolf
#

Only saw the news about Liquid dropping out of Beat now

vestal mortar
#

Yee I am @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
#

Also no Gib in map pool would be bad for Liquid

#

and is also worse for Rogue

red anvil
#

i love how emongg created a video "Remaining Positive in Overwatch Ranked"

balmy wolf
#

LH win I assume?

red anvil
#

yup 3-0

balmy wolf
#

Eh

clever portal
#

I would say LW Blue even played badly

#

Just strategically outplayed

balmy wolf
#

Any idea why it was so loop sided?

red anvil
#

Well it was litteraly LH - Rogue all over again

#

LH just shut them down

#

except that LWB actually flexed

clever portal
#

LH showing the importance of good coaching

#

To be fair to LW Blue, they didn't have the most practise

clever wagon
#

Mfw Noukky appeared in Timo's anti Mercy rant channel

balmy wolf
#

LW Blue coach is pretty good so Thinkong

#

LWB was playing pretty bad

red anvil
#

After being destroyed first map, they dident manage to recover

balmy wolf
#

Flow3r's performance was abysmal and having janus play after him just getting out of the hospital was terrible

red anvil
#

and LH's stalling shut them down on map 2, and almost on map 3

balmy wolf
#

Also swapping Luna out for Pine was not the play

#

Well then

#

Time for KR fanboys to panic about their WC chance?

red anvil
#

SBB is still the tracer god, i'm not sure if flower is the best gengu/solider

clever portal
#

They'll be fine

#

WC is in November right?

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They'll have no problem in groups

velvet scarab
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miro isnt on the team for KR right?

clever wagon
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Do Koreans even have that many prominent hitscans at the west's level?

red anvil
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Anyone else France, SK, and maybe sweden that got a shot?