We can F5 the match page for the S1 playoffs
#esports-discussion
clever portal
clever portal
Ford is memeing
tired veldt
i was reading along like, yes. indeed. yes. then i just turned on my noggin
blazing parrot
spicy uncleswagg drama on twitter
stupid person vs uncleswagg
who shall win
tired veldt
god this is some ugly overwatch
wintry matrix
now i want to watch even more the group D matches to see if they are as boring as this night has been
balmy wolf
@blazing parrot eh?
blazing parrot
@balmy wolf just some really stupid chick who is mad at uncleswagg for some reason
clever portal
Some grill got banned on twitch
balmy wolf
link?
clever portal
And is salty at Hncleswagg
blazing parrot
:^)
clever wagon
It's on Uncleswagg's twitter
blazing parrot
@clever wagon STILL WITCH HUNT
clever portal
90% a troll
blazing parrot
:DDDD
clever wagon
Remember, not a witch hunt if it's all open in public
So what I'm doing is not illegal
Fuck you all lulululul
supple nymph
post to proow
short vault
dva pls rmb
blazing parrot
; )
tired veldt
is there a reason mccree isnt being played? do these teams just not have mccree players?
supple nymph
he was in the last match
clever wagon
Whole kit is too weak against dive
tired veldt
that makes sense.
clever wagon
Pretty niche pick
feral solar
c9 won 4-0
clever wagon
Against?
feral solar
hammers
clever portal
Basically NiP
balmy wolf
but ex NIP qualified 
clever portal
They've had no televised games right?
balmy wolf
no
wintry matrix
they got the NA curse
clever portal
Apparently hammers v C9 was broadcasted
balmy wolf
or rather
clever portal
Anyone see that game?
balmy wolf
the meta isn't kind to him
feral solar
it was off stream
balmy wolf
it was last week
clever portal
No last week
balmy wolf
not this week
clever portal
I'll watch the vod tomorrow
I could understand why though
Although they haven't played each other, Kungarna might be as good as the stronger EU dive teams
C9 went far at takeover
Triple tank team being weak against Pharah isn't a surprise as well
tired veldt
is korea the best region in this game
wintry matrix
prob yes, although aside from 2 teams at apex there isn't much overlap between teams from differen regions
clever portal
Atleast it's safe to say the top Korean teams are a level above any team from other regions
Lunatic-Hai, considered the best Korean team, has these results against the best from the west: 3-0
tired veldt
so will they have their own league?
clever wagon
APEX is pretty much their own league with that long format
Currently, at least
No idea about OWL
clever portal
I think the overwatch open division for Korea is called "road to apex"
forest raven
APEX is to the Koreans what OWL will be to the Americans
clever wagon
Road to APEX = Open Division -> Challengers = Contenders -> APEX LAN = League
Took Blizz a year and most of western third party pro scenes to come up with 33% of what Korea had developed
clever portal
At least you guys will have to live through what EU has to 
clever wagon
Western tournament format 👌🏻
fierce geode
why only 8 matches total and why these teams?
clever portal
Luckily eUnited finished the game fast yesterday
fierce geode
i mean 8 matches streamed
clever wagon
Can't stream all of em within the time frame
limber pine
cuz that's the format
clever wagon
Simple as that
clever portal
They play all games on one day
fierce geode
seriously though there's like 2 hours of games prior to when they start streaming
clever wagon
Over the weekend
clever portal
And contracted a small studio for the broadcasting
fierce geode
i'm aware of how they're doing it but there's so much dead air time
tired veldt
is there another game that has so many unstreamed games??
fierce geode
like fill in some of the down time with clips from the other matches or something
clever portal
At least last week, one of the casters was saying in chat that they don't really have a large budget
fierce geode
just feels like a bad format
clever wagon
Nuh-uh, can't do because Contenders S0 is trial
clever portal
I agree with everything you're saying though
wintry matrix
with the quality of those matches i'm more than happy to no have more than four
balmy wolf
What was that defence tho
fierce geode
i mean they must have an employee spectating the other games to make sure the results are legit
clever wagon
They basically hired Carbon to help them develop Contenders
And to cover both regions with what, 32 teams in total
fierce geode
what the hell did toronto do in between games blow a few rails?
short vault
snowball
balmy wolf
i am so confused isn't this supposed to be pro
fierce geode
snowballlll
clever wagon
They have employees holding unstreamed games but to broadcast or record it is a whole different matter if you want to keep the quality up
fierce geode
nah nah i'm not asking to broadcast i'm saying record the matches and release them later to watch
clever portal
Basically NA production
fierce geode
like i couldn't give a fuck about half these teams
i wanna see my boys c9 jump off the objectives
clever wagon
Carbon still deserves credit for what they've been able to do
fierce geode
i'm not upset with the fact that it's happening like this i'm upset that it feels like the tourney was poorly planned or at least a bit of an afterthought
i know they'll do it right for season 1
supple nymph
some exec at blizzard probably ordered carbon to do it in a way that constrained the matches, or just limited their resources so they couldnt
fierce geode
the replays are a really nice touch though
short vault
yes
fierce geode
ugh hex
clever portal
The next two games going to be 
supple nymph
t3 team vs t6 team
short vault
dude this genji
really nice consistency
this shit is lit
i'm glad i brought 🍿 for this one
clever portal
Hammers won a map!
short vault
oh
clever portal
Against 
wintry matrix
most of their losses were 3-1
clever portal
I like how the most hyped thing right now is refreshing C9 and Kungarna scores
balmy wolf
and they're not even talking about it lol
short vault
rigged
balmy wolf
was there a DC?
balmy wolf
despration widow...im going to use that term from now on
tired escarp
Carry j
supple nymph
choke9
clever wagon
📞 BabyRage JEFF 📞 BabyRage IT'S REDDIT 📞 BabyRage HOG ONE SHOT SOMEONE FROM NOT FULL HEALTH 📞 BabyRage
supple nymph
MYSTERY HEROES
blazing parrot
faze 3-0 selfless?
solid spear
u_u
blazing parrot
your dad makes so mmmm good burgers
balmy wolf
Selfless burger?
blazing parrot
i was talking to oreo
clever portal
C9 is out
supple nymph
rng 2:0 c9
balmy wolf
no clue
blazing parrot
:/
blazing parrot
🙏
balmy wolf
only if Hammers shat on Kungarna a bit
clever portal
If Kungarna do not win, C9 goes through
final river
did someone throw?
clever portal
Yh, they could win another
limber pine
1 - 1
clever portal
Some maps snowball based off first push
supple nymph
TOO SLOW
balmy wolf
it is possible for a 3 ways ties in that group btw
Hex is just disappointed on Toronto now
short vault
you can tell they're tilted asf
supple nymph
they were t6 until they won the open qualifier
balmy wolf
tier 3
supple nymph
t4 is as low as ill go
balmy wolf
tier 3.5
limber pine
^^
limber pine
i believe a tie would still keep Kungarna in
clever portal
That's assuming they draw the game 
limber pine
but c9 would have to lose 4-0 to RNG
clever portal
Just C9 need to get a map
solid spear
if C9 loses 3-1 theyre tied
idk what happens then
if they lose 4-0 theyre out
Unless Kungarna loses again in which case it doesnt matter
supple nymph
so late and tournament not even half over
balmy wolf
what a clown fest
clever portal
Clown9 full held on anubis
supple nymph
we have the best banter don't we folks?
fleet idol
what's c9 score?
supple nymph
clever portal
We can't see ticks though
supple nymph
must have the shits
balmy wolf
RIP
supple nymph
🔫
solid spear
if C9 loses their map and Kungarna wins, Kungarna is in if Kungarna loses theyre out, if Kungarna and C9 both win I think theres some extra tiebreaker
balmy wolf
yeah
solid spear
cuz theyd be tied in points and map score
balmy wolf
if the universe is the meme god i think it is
we will see a tiebreaker
it will be a perfect end for the rivalry between them
solid spear
what Korean Genji flexes are avaiable right now besides presumably Haksal?
limber pine
2 - 2
balmy wolf
RIP C9
balmy wolf
good luck
brave stump
RIP
clever portal
All up to C9
supple nymph
BabyRage HELLO RUNAWAY BabyRage ITS KAISER BabyRage PLEASE TAKE ME BACK BabyRage
clever portal
They need to win and play a Bo3
balmy wolf
Mykl will have his last laugh
clever portal
He's probably typing a tweet right now
wintry matrix
technically Kungarna will have less wins than C9, but being the shitlord he is he won't care about that
3-0 
solid spear
and C9 has 2
limber pine
is there a c9/RNG stream?
balmy wolf
C9 needs to absolutely win the last map
solid spear
3 points for win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss
balmy wolf
otherwise
balmy wolf
no
clever portal
No stream whatsoever
clever wagon
Talespin is in the chat
solid spear
ye
balmy wolf
someone said C9 got the last map 👀
tired escarp
Spoilers
clever wagon
C9 2 wins they're in playoffs?
clever portal
fleet idol
how do they lose to rng lol
clever portal
S4 throwing for dafran
solid spear
whatre you on about
balmy wolf
time for KAISER to earthshatter the team
solid spear
supple nymph
are those highlights from today
just post the vods asshole
they obv have vods to make highlights
solid spear
RNG 
limber pine
holy crap we're almost 2 hours behind schedule
clever wagon
What time is it over at the studio?
limber pine
this match was supposed to start at 10:15 PM EST
short vault
y o i n k s
limber pine
it is currently midnight
solid spear
it is midnight __
clever wagon
11:01 AM over here I have no idea about schedules ever
OCS was still the most sensible with schedules to use user local time zone on display
....
Ginger Pizza
limber pine
CLOUD9 won
short vault
oh shit
limber pine
^^^^
clever wagon
So how does C9 compare to Kung in scores
limber pine
C9 and Kungarna have only played Oasis once (against each other), and C9 won 3 - 0
solid spear
well Im getting sleepy hopefully Kungarna wins
limber pine
sooooo
clever wagon
Right CM69 is now one of the Corndogs
supple nymph
2-3 hours left WutFace
wintry matrix
it'd be so great if c9 won kun in the tiebreaker, just to see mykl reaction
tired escarp
Lmao
short vault
eugh
clever wagon
haHAA squad
balmy wolf
btw did people catch Left Guy's mocking Mercy players?
short vault
yes
blazing parrot
uh oh
clever wagon
"couldn't wrap their heads around Enigma, he's a mystery"
I guess you could say Enigma is... Enigmatic
tired escarp
Ive been watching contenders tf
balmy wolf
and I told you that the universe is a meme god
short vault
the 3 are together now
blazing parrot
@clever wagon thats fucking cringe lel
tired escarp
Waiting for my boi shadder to frag out with low ping
short vault
where
balmy wolf
clever wagon
Hey, I'm just honoring the haHAA squad to the best of my ability
short vault
@balmy wolf lul
solid spear
RNG lowkey threw cuz they all hate Kungarna lul
clever wagon
Ginger Pizza deserve a better team
crisp lynx
is tiebreaker BO3?
supple nymph
REKTANGLED
crisp lynx
Kungarna has Bischu too. even ppl think he is from canada.
limber pine
Liquipedia says tiebreaker is being played in ~17 minutes
solid spear
Ah so we won't see it
balmy wolf
clever wagon
Heart clenching and butt clenching
supple nymph
balmy wolf
RIGHT GUY
final river
lmao
balmy wolf
""Following Contenders standard practice, they will not stream the first two stages of Oasis, but there will be a clip montage of those rounds. The stream will begin for the third and final stage of the bo3 with a solo cast by LeftGuy SeemsGood""
also, xQC is just throwing now
remember when Denial/YIKES was supposedly tier 2?
I remember
solid spear
FNRG has too many Koreans
sturdy granite
Condition 2 Win: Kill Mercy
velvet scarab
why the name change from yikes
sturdy granite
Who knows
All I know is my Corndog, Envision, and Bazooka Puppy dreams are coming to life,
balmy wolf
my dream of RIP and TL also came alive too
sturdy granite
If you looked at these teams 2 months ago, I think these results would look like opposite day
sturdy granite
WOW
balmy wolf
holy
fleet idol
mercy mains 
balmy wolf
some of those boops are real
and so @limber pine
C9 vs Kungarna tiebreaker will be show on stream
clever wagon
How's it going
brave stump
FNRGFE about to eliminate Yikes
clever wagon
Fuckkk I want to watch so bad
brave stump
Did they say the tiebreaker is after this matchup or after TL/CLG?
fleet idol
wouldn't it be after tl/clg
sturdy granite
Yep
balmy wolf
YIKES OUT
brave stump
RIP YIKES
fleet idol
tiebreakers are normally last
sturdy granite
Jeez that was close
balmy wolf
now if the night ends with C9 qualified
limber pine
tiebreaker is supposedly after the last match now
balmy wolf
that'd be lit
clever wagon
Someone monitor xQc's twitter
fleet idol
they got further with the hog though lol
balmy wolf
Arc6 not even try to die with dignity now
fleet idol
rofl that blade
clever wagon
BUDS NO
balmy wolf
that's what i like to see from a pro play
clever wagon
HE STILL HAS A FAMILY
balmy wolf
balmy wolf
did you guys see that brief look at the behind the scenes costom game
three spectators
i find that shit cool
clever wagon
Brah NA scene is lit 🔥 af now I cant even
balmy wolf
Ive got u in my sights
feral solar
this is gonna be a long night
vestal ermine
anyone gonna watch the CLG vs TL series?
balmy wolf
me
fan
im taking a drink for every ult
anyone in a voice chat watching dis?
I kinda wish they would turn off hte voicelines for spectators
that's how i play in comp
vestal ermine
I would say I wish Echo Fox had a team but after a week like this I'm okay with Rick taking his time. 
<----Echo Fox fan
balmy wolf
RAPHA
THAT BOOP
@vestal ermine inb4 them picking FNRGFE
you know the spectators are using controllers. those nice nice sweeps and shit
tbh i'd love to be behind the lens of one of those spectator cams
vestal ermine
@balmy wolf It'd be nice, Rick Fox showing up out of no where at the end of Contenders and hands FNRGFE their brand new Echo Fox Jerseys
balmy wolf
Shadder on NA ping 
vestal ermine
NA would never be the same again
only a matter of time, HYPE!
https://twitter.com/rickfox/status/840808180619739139
balmy wolf
isn't that the lead character of the first watch_dogs game
vestal ermine
just the main character of the Los Angeles Lakers between 1997 and 2004
toxic yacht
Oh shit, hek
balmy wolf
Liquid is 1-0 CLG though
toxic yacht
How many map wins does CLG need?
Well, there's also a chance that CLG beats liquid, but I doubt it
feral solar
zarya 
vestal ermine
CLG is up 2-0 on this map however
sturdy granite
Zarya, Reaper, and Bastion are all making comebacks
vestal ermine
I mainly play OW on the xbox, Bastion never went away for me
sturdy granite
lol, well in tourney play, he's almost never seen. The only thing more rare lately is symmetra or junkrat
balmy wolf
throwing
toxic yacht
:(
devout cipher
Most likely. Don't think the wins here will affect much
is in
vestal ermine
GLG has to win the series to be in?
vestal ermine
who else is in?
balmy wolf
Liquid, Faze, C9, Renegades, LG Evil, Envision, Immortals, FNRGFE
vestal ermine
and why the best of 4 format? why not best of 3 or 5 like everyone else?
vestal ermine
ah
I'll never get over the Detroit Renegades. Is Montecristo still part-owner of that team?
balmy wolf
no
sturdy granite
Silk is eating Shadder alive
sturdy granite
oh dear
wintry matrix
WHY
fleet idol
mikkel won!?
devout cipher
C9 
glad chasm
Such a c9 thing to do
sturdy granite
r/cow is about to errupt
vestal ermine
wait, just one map for a tiebreaker? lame!
brave stump
Those Zen picks
glad chasm
Couldn't end any other way
river blaze
C9 LUUL
wintry matrix
this all wouldn't had happened if Runaway got a sponsor
devout cipher
IMT vs Faze lmao
devout cipher
Bye Faze
sturdy granite
LUL
balmy wolf
i'm just pissed that i sent a bunch of people those screencaps
and now i'm going to apologize for them
possibly with a bunch of angry emails about that
"oh C9 won"
C9 choked as hard as they possibly can and they deserved it
devout cipher
They should rename to choke 9. That way they can still sell C9 shirts from the dumpster
vestal ermine
There was a team in the open qualifiers that was "Clown 9"
sturdy granite
lol, I member that
balmy wolf
Babybay and his toggle
@nimble bobcat
You mean when he was shooting at kaiser?
and then snaps to the middle of the point?
yeah
his tracking at Kaiser is unnaturally smooth too
Well thats always been babybay
He didnt snap to anyone either
like no one is mid point
given his history
i'll always look at him suspiciously
toxic yacht
Same tbh
When you just used tac visor but you still need it so you use your own
The fact that he showed zero regret about the ESEA ban also says a lot
toxic yacht
delet pls :eyes:
balmy wolf
you'd get hyped after you deliver on your trash talk too
at this point all of my goodwill toward C9 is out of the windows
I got up early enough to catch CLG vs Liquid and Kugnarna vs C9
lit
When I heard it was an Oasis tiebreaker I was like "oh this is easy for C9"
Gardens first
99-100
uni
100-0
city center
so many questions for C9
100-35
toxic yacht
mfw you lose the easiest tiebreaker of your life
balmy wolf
why the role switch? why the poor hero choices?
toxic yacht
Literally a free win
balmy wolf
Where's B1shop? Hello?
that was great craic
i wanted kungarna through anyway
babybay is a joy to watch
according to reddit
apparently they has been running this all days
all the comp changes and such
for the amount of roster change and money they've spent on their OW roster
C9 is dangerously approaching NRG tier of meme
sigh
Liquid got such an easy quarter final
well they toyed with 
earlier
throwing so that people can watch C9 C9'd themselves
either way
Kelvin and the Chipmunks died for this
They didnt throw though
I could tell they werent really trying because they knew they were in already
they were trying out new shits. They 4-0'd CLG last week, and has keep up with Faze and Selfless.
basically a near throw
The closest they came to throwing was putting shadder on mccree for like 5 minutes
vestal ermine
well Liquid had to make up for the League team
balmy wolf
They've run Sombra on R66 defence before
multiple times
it was just ID instead of shadder
Obviously dahang doesnt play 76 but he only switched for the stall and then fragged out
i mean tbh
all of my dreams came through
RIP qualified for playoff
and Liquid is close to qualififed for next season
All of mine came true except for one
Hammers 
well, it is rough for them
playing in new meta, etc etc
they can probably bounce off of it tbh
at least they are not C9.........
C9 is absolutely meme tier now
IMT, FNRGFE, Liquid and FaZe all got to playoffs
and Kungarna beat C9
so good
How are the top 6 decided again?
this playoff bracket is going to be brutal
no clue. Probably the same way as how Kelvin flunked out
my guess for the top 4 will be Immortals, LG Evil, Renegades and Team Liquid
the rest will be a crapshoot
Honestly, the only team I really want in is Liquid
I still do want FNRGFE to go through
And FaZe
That will be tough for FaZe though
I kind of feel like Liquid is just guaranteed semis
Liquid pulled the biggest con out of everyone
getting the last seed
then getting first in group
and now match up with a tier 2 team
did Rapha pull the shit?
of course ConnorJ might ruined the day but a 4-0 against a tier 2 team isn't going to say much
EnV definitely isn't bad
They still have lots of potential
But in their current state vs Liquid
I dont see them winning
the better question is after the nVidia bootcamp
is Shadder going to be back to EU?
or is he going to stay in Liquid house?
AMA I guess
Surefour with the pity stream?
nimble bobcat
@balmy wolf : this gy has been aimboting since S1
balmy wolf
@nimble bobcat on the scale of 1 to Calvin, how obvious is his aimbotting?
nimble bobcat
this clip isn't
at all
but there are other from him that are
this clip shows nothing
the flick doesnt lock on tracer
and teh smoothness of the tracking can come from 40cm/360 sens + spec cam
balmy wolf
tfw you are having the same sens of 40 cm/360 but will never get that smooth tracking 
what should i practice then? it sounds like that kind of tracking is achievable
nimble bobcat
i'm 12.5cm and my tracking is also super smooth
smoothness comes from "skill"
you have to force yourself to be smooth
that's all
that's how you build skill
balmy wolf
the smoothest i've ever been is practicing with bots in Quake where they ADAD like mad men
but never been able to replicated it in real situation
nimble bobcat
you can't practice smoothness against dodgers
balmy wolf
feelsbadman
balmy wolf
so how to force myself to be "smooth" then?
nimble bobcat
you can train against a friend going winston, 0 cooldown jump
and try to track him in air
as smooth as possible
force yourself to be smooth
try to track as smooth as possible
nimble bobcat
also, spec cam are really retarded @balmy wolf
so its very hard to be 100% convinced that someone is aimboting through them
balmy wolf
ah
clever wagon
Aimer? In #esports? What is this?
What the fuck? C9 lost their tiebreaker?
FailFish
balmy wolf
yeah
clever wagon
What the fuck happened
balmy wolf
Not hard at all
balmy wolf
C9 pulling a liquid
clever wagon
And that is?
forest raven
Choking
balmy wolf
^
balmy wolf
This was lit
forest raven
Gunning for that IMT/Liquid final now
balmy wolf
I'm gonna believe in my boys till the end
RNG is a very tough hurdle to pass
they need to win against Envision first
honestly if they keep up their form
they probably will
Fury and Shadder2K might be just staying in Liquid house in CA
while the rest back to where they are
I'm gonna guess they'll stay together till their eliminated
Also I just assume they're going to beat EnV
Because I mean
they will
3 weeks in CA at nVidia bootcamp is going to be a long task
bootcamping never really last that long
but i'm not in Team Liquid discord lol
clever wagon
Any sitrep on Twatter?
clever portal
Holy shit
I feel asleep
After all that
Mykl was right 
Let me check twitter
That was mild
But Kaiser: even though I hate you, gg
toxic yacht
nico is a good player
https://clips.twitch.tv/TawdryEvilOilTebowing
toxic yacht
lmao
clever wagon
One trick 21% win rate, 3700 SR
Just Mercy OTP fucks
Let's all start one tricking Mercy to make a statement
But Mercy is so fucking boring it's hard
feral solar
LOL that screenshot is 8/8
toxic yacht
they ran that comp when they stomped kungarna 3-0 on the same map
100-0'd 3 times too
wary falcon
One trick 21% win rate, 3700 SR
Just Mercy OTP fucks
How it works?
I have mercy main with 39% winrate and her rating is 1400
clever portal
LUL
@wary falcon everyone has a hidden MMR
So the 21% winrate mercy probably has a MMR of a GM
clever wagon
Far as I can read that Mercy didn't one trick in S4 to climb to masters
But the fact that theyve been able to maintain that SR one tricking Mercy with 21% win rate in S5 is the problem
Which means they still gain more SR when they win than they lose to actually have their SR decrease and derank
wary falcon
So it's same as Torbjorn and Sombra?
basically i have accounts with low winrate and OTP this heroes
but still floating on low GM
clever portal
Yh for some reason it affects Mercy as well
Torb and Sombra are used for trolling, so it makes sense
But mercy's stats make no sense
wary falcon
Uh will try to reach asian top-500 as mercy main btw
clever wagon
Far as I know SR looks at raw stats/numbers
The difference between other one trick off meta picks and Mercy is that it's super easy to ramp up Mercy's numbers
Most of it being rez's
Compare that to Torb and Sym
What can you do with them to ramp up your stats
clever portal
But torb and sym give a lot of SR
Because many people pick them and do nothing
So if you play them normally you get rewarded
Because you're better than "average"
wary falcon
Torb gives me 40-50 per win
Is there app like CS:GO MM Server Picker?
tired of playing on Aussie server with 600 ping
clever wagon
How much do you lose?
wary falcon
10-20
red anvil
600 ping? ouchie
balmy wolf
yesterday was a disappointment
blazing parrot
so whats happened since i went to sleep?
clever portal
C9 and Yikes out
clever portal
Kungarna drew 2-2 Vs Hammers
C9 lost to RNG 3-1
Leading to Bo3 Oasis tiebreaker which they lost
blazing parrot
balmy wolf
that tiebreaker was salty as fuck to watch
Gods on D.va
Xepher on Tracer
won Garden with Pharmercy. Then proceed to lose the other 2 by running Genji Tracer
with Surefour on Genji
and i'm not even C9 fan
blazing parrot
balmy wolf
B1shop? Hello? Why the role change?
apparently this is the comp they run when 3-0'd Kungarna earlier
but still
limber pine
wary falcon
i'm not even C9 fan
It's their way to exist
their Dota 2 squad was most loved and hated at the same time
wary falcon
C9 dropped them
I guess it was mutual decision
balmy wolf
and so far most of the rebuild with the rosters usually follows a similar pattern
wary falcon
they got a lot of 2nd places
and their players are all walking memes
especial EternalEnvy
it's feel weird
0 big upsets yesterday
balmy wolf
Well there was FNRGFE 4-0ing Arc
was pretty good
clever portal
At this point I feel like there's no point predicting NA
Liquid is either T1 or T3
Tempo I don't even know anymore
limber pine
EU was definately more predicable than NA
balmy wolf
Not really
They've both been pretty inconsistent since their first showings
IMT has only stabilized since getting the imports
clever portal
I would say they've been consistent
balmy wolf
And you cant really judge evil because their group was a joke
clever portal
Only really losing to Selfless or each other
wary falcon
EU was definately more predicable than NA
yeah
it was much easier for me because EU has more stable teams and difference between tiers was clear
(just bet on Rogue and EUnited (if they don't face Rogue))
clever portal
I think 
are the wild cards
You know they can beat everyone
But they can lose to everyone as well
clever portal
eUnited should be
Can go out first round
Watch that game not be streamed
They will stream 123 vs RiP
clever portal
Schedule out?
clever portal
Strange
EU times are sooner
Finals at 11
If you consider NiP time zone, its 12 for them though
Not complaining though
Misfits game went till 2 am first week
NA final at 6 am 
rapid oxide
The "trashtalk" with C9 made me enjoy the tiebreaker, otherwise i wouldn't give a flying fuck
rapid oxide
Do you believe me i never saw a contenders match?
That was the only one
Something is missing on contenders that doesn't make me watch it
clever wagon
@wary falcon you'd still be doing more as Torb than Mercy will, in reality
But SR looks at raw numbers and not actual contributions
So
toxic yacht
something missing in contenders
hmmm
I wonder what
maybe 84% of the matches?
yeah, that's likely one of the things missing
rapid oxide
No
toxic yacht
pls let me be salty in peace don't ruin it >.<
toxic yacht
the annoying thing is that they didn't stream half the good matches
rapid oxide
clever wagon
But guys, guys, Blizz is still in development process of 33% of what Korea has developed
rapid oxide
Unpopular opinion: i dont like ZP and Hex
toxic yacht
clever wagon
Cut Blizz some slack
clever wagon
Blizz sheep btw haHAA
rapid oxide
Im ok with them but lack of hype
toxic yacht
as long as you still like uber and jason I won't hate you
clever wagon
PapaSmithy fan btw
rapid oxide
No hype = 💤
toxic yacht
oh yeah, you mentioned that earlier
rapid oxide
Obviously 
toxic yacht
also, the fuckign marketing guy for LK
clever portal
Okay, where do I get that emote Vace?
clever portal
Megumi
clever portal
New signing for LK?
rapid oxide
LOL esportpedia followed me 
clever portal
You can be the water boy
clever wagon
<< not this megumi
wary falcon
@cold cometie you'd still be doing more as Torb than Mercy will, in reality
i don't really care just wondering if i will be able to get good rating as mercy on asian server
with high ping
when i wrote about it i decided to play
played 5 games
lose all 5 games
but i used rez asap
and lose 40 pts after 5 games
or even less than 40, ~35
clever wagon
35 net loss for 5 games?
wary falcon
yeah
toxic yacht
you're at 4,3k, right?
clever wagon
Well, there's your problem
wary falcon
not yet
it's around 3k now
i think i will be able to get 4k but have a doubt about t500
as i understand mercy main tool to get pts is her ultimate?
right?
clever wagon
And dumbfuck Mercy one tricks keep defending this shit
rapid oxide
Elo hell it's true
clever wagon
It's a huge factor for SR as far as we know I believe yes
clever portal
Elo hell with performance SR EleGiggle
clever wagon
Of course dumbfuck Mercy otps will defend it, otherwise they cant play comp and will get flamed on sight
clever wagon
You can escape it, just one trick Mercy
wary falcon
I didn't meet elo hell
and i had like 20+ accounts where i got 4k
from season 2 to season 5
clever portal
20+ accounts
wary falcon
you know what i mean
clever portal
Also can't use FeelsRageMan
wary falcon
Personally i think Mercy's kit is really imbalanced
all you need is pharah/widow and winston
to release her full potential
don't see her much in pro games 😦
clever portal
DVa?
wary falcon
D.va has good vertical mobility but winston is more than enough for mercy
both tanks will put mercy in danger
while she needs to wait for her passive
so widow/pharah are crucial for her
rapid oxide
pff
junkrat counter mercy
how could you are top 500? smh
Dont talk unless you are high elo (500+ SR) FailFish
rapid oxide
mercy could be deleted from the game i wouldn't cry
wary falcon
I want junkrat to be part of game
He needs better projectile speed and less aoe + more traps?
i guess
toxic yacht
faster projectles with a less extreme arc + lower firerate and lower AoE
toxic yacht
maybe only make them explode on a direct before it hits the ground